building-and-recc-chat

[untold beacon]

Those things go out in seconds

Let me show you my parts for my setup

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VWxJCz

[little osprey]

Sick! That AIO will be cool

That I9 is expensive but really nice

[mossy venture]

dont pay that much for that cpu

[untold beacon]

Trust me I can get it for cheaper $300 bucks

[mossy venture]

oh wait

youre the guy who found an 11900k for 300$ from a friend right?

[untold beacon]

Correct

[mossy venture]

ah kk

[little osprey]

Wait should I split some of my orders for Amazon prime?

[mossy venture]

go for 3600c16

[untold beacon]

I mean if you want to you can that’s your choice

[mossy venture]

i would change out the ram for 3600c16

[untold beacon]

I already have the ram so it’s to late for that

[storm harness]

@anyone shouldn't my computer go to bios screen when no OS installed? First boot since I put it all together. No display

[little osprey]

Should I go for 32gb or save money and go 16gb? 3600 cl16

[mossy venture]

depends on what youre doing

[little osprey]

Gaming and VR

[mossy venture]

wait

are you doing vr on an apu

[little osprey]

No, I will do that on a 3060 when I get one

[mossy venture]

ah

16gb should be fine, jsut depends on price difference

[little osprey]

Ill probably try it though 😈

[strong raft]

Yes, bios is literally the 1st thing that usually is used/seen

[mossy venture]

yeah as long as it isnt staying an apu build 16gb is fine

[untold beacon]

Yea bios should be on the screen first so go check if anything is not connected or if something is not plugged in right

[little osprey]

It goes $67 for 16gb or $160 for 32gb

[untold beacon]

Oof

[mossy venture]

def 16 then lmao

[untold beacon]

Just go with 16gb then

[mossy venture]

oh btw

[storm harness]

All my lights and fans come on and no beeping codes.

[mossy venture]

you could also go for a muchhh faster kit with an apu if you want

you could prolly do 4400mhz on a 5600g

[untold beacon]

DisplayPort

Maybe

[mossy venture]

if you wanted to spend the money on it that is

prolly wouldnt be worth it tho lmao

[strong raft]

Over 3600 is where prices get stupid, and perf increases get smaller and smaller

[mossy venture]

true

other than a few rare 4000 kits that go on sale from time to time

[little osprey]

Its $100 ish for 4400mhz Patriot viper 16gb ram

Sorry $90

Never heard of them though

[strong raft]

You're young then. Patriot Viper was pretty good as ddr2 (only for the mem chips they used)

[untold beacon]

Just go with the ram that you were already going to get

[little osprey]

Yeah I think that ram is too much for my knowledge rn

[untold beacon]

@little osprey

If you don’t mind

Can you send me a picture of your case

I just want to see what I looks like

[little osprey]

Yeah no problem

On this channel or DM?

[untold beacon]

It doesn’t matter

Which one

[strong raft]

Either. Can be in build pics also, that thread is just pics only.

[untold beacon]

Ya true

You can just send it on this channel

[little osprey]

And it just has a standard tempered glass panel

[untold beacon]

That’s a nice case

[little osprey]

Yeah I really like it Corsair 4000d Airflow

That first pic was out of focus lol

[untold beacon]

It’s all good

[strong raft]

Oh type C, that's good. Dm a pic of that lead projectile launcher you have standing up in the left of pic. Lol

[untold beacon]

This man really studying his room 😂

[strong raft]

It's just another fun hobby/lifestyle.

[untold beacon]

😂

[little osprey]

[strong raft]

Those emotes lmao

[little osprey]

Mojo pog

[strong raft]

That was me, like csi doing "enhance pic, zoom in, enhance again"

Not really folks, it's called situational awareness

[untold beacon]

Chillen accept my friend request already

[strong raft]

[storm harness]

Are these 2 side by side 8 pins suppose to be hooked up to the psu or are they for graphics card? Z690

I have the atx power hooked up

[untold beacon]

Idk I don’t have the latest motherboard and all of that so idk and I idk what your graphics card is either

[storm harness]

I'm using on-board Intel right now

[untold beacon]

What cpu

[little osprey]

I dmed the pew pew specs. I dont know if people in here would have a fit because gats.

[storm harness]

I7 12700k

[untold beacon]

Well idk what to tell you then because I don’t have all the new gen stuff

But the cpu isn’t the problem obviously

So it’s something to do with the motherboard

Or you have one of the pin connectors in the wrong place

[storm harness]

I have the seasonic px750psu

These manuals don't really help nothing

[untold beacon]

Just search the internet and read few articles

@little osprey

[storm harness]

Those 2 side by side 8pins at the top says cpu power 1 and 2

Guess I'll try plugging those into the psu

[strong raft]

You mean 2 port side by side the mobo? Both if you're ocing a lot.

[untold beacon]

Ya I think he means that

That’s why I was confused for a second

[strong raft]

Ports on psu itself are pretty obvious. Don't have to fill those all up of course

[storm harness]

I don't have either one of them connected is there suppose to be 1 connected maybe?

[strong raft]

To mobo up near cpu? Yes!

[untold beacon]

Yes their should be

[storm harness]

Man I tell ya it's been 2 decades since I've done this lol

[untold beacon]

Sorry guys I’m just eating food right now

So I’m not all focused

[strong raft]

Lol, no biggie. Just tougher to understand eachother without a live stream or something. Been a long time since my last build, but I mess around w/ pc often enough. Being on here a bunch helps too

[untold beacon]

Bro

Why don’t we all get in a call

That would be a lot easier

If your all down

[strong raft]

Would if I wasn't on phone delaying some work tonight

[untold beacon]

I see

Well let’s hope that @storm harness will fix his problem

[storm harness]

Sorry I was plugging in those cpu wires.. the computer keeps resetting, now it's saying my memory is sitting on non omptized slots

It's actually displaying now

[untold beacon]

That’s good

Making progress

[storm harness]

So it showed a picture then went away too fast

I put my memory in first 2 slots I guess that's wrong

Slots closest to cpu

[untold beacon]

No that’s right

Are the same ssds or are they two different ones

[storm harness]

I mean RAM

[stoic island]

For most boards, do slot 2 and 4

if there's only 2 slots, populating both slots is fine too

[untold beacon]

Ya slots 2 and 4

[storm harness]

It's 4 slots all black in color

[stoic island]

Second and fourth slots

[untold beacon]

If you have two sticks of ram

If you have four all of them

[storm harness]

Ok switched to 2 and 4 and the error didn't show up this time

Thanks everyone

[untold beacon]

Np

[storm harness]

Now on to trying to get my ram out of 2666 speed. These sticks are 4600

[mossy venture]

xmp

[strong raft]

Look closely near the ram slots and they should have tiny text saying which slots to use 1st

[storm harness]

Man these bios have came along way.

So many ways to break my machine!

Lol

[untold beacon]

So it’s all good now

[storm harness]

So far so good

It only took me since 12pm eastern today

Haha

[untold beacon]

That not that bad before it took me two days for building me first pc

[storm harness]

Wires everywhere atm

[untold beacon]

Let’s go baby

That looking fine

[little osprey]

Gosh now I dont know which PSU I should get. Corsair rm750 or a Seasonic or MSI. My LORD

[strong raft]

Haha, I like that you have it going on it's side. No gpu/cpu hsf sag that way. Edit: noticed it's running w/o a gpu, that's actually neat.

[little osprey]

What ever one doesnt explode.

[untold beacon]

@little osprey I got the rm750 because I know that it is a very good brand

But the MSI is also a good brand

[strong raft]

Idk but Seasonic has many great ones & they make some for other companies

[untold beacon]

So it really doesn’t matter which one you get

[strong raft]

Corsair has their name on so many different products, actually I'm not a fan of that practice.

[untold beacon]

I just got all my parts over there

[mossy venture]

rmx is nice

theres a sale on it rn on amazon

[little osprey]

Its like $120ish right?

[untold beacon]

No it’s $95

On new egg

[mossy venture]

sale mightve changed but last i saw for a 750 it was 100

oh is it?

[untold beacon]

Ya

[untold beacon]

Ya they are both still good power supply’s so I doesn’t matter which one you get black

[storm harness]

I still have to get a GPU but I'm not selling a kidney for it

[untold beacon]

That’s true

[strong raft]

Great choice of psu btw (by the way)

[mossy venture]

you dont need both, dw about it

:D

[storm harness]

Lol

[untold beacon]

Lol

[strong raft]

Oh yeah we have 2 kidneys

[storm harness]

I tried shuffle and was denied

[strong raft]

Join the club

[storm harness]

I looked on marketplace for q 3060 and tbh all of the people look sketchy

[mossy venture]

check out r/hardwareswap

[strong raft]

3060 has the worst current "msrp" anyways. 60 ti generally has much better "value"

[mossy venture]

3060ti is a great price/perf card

next best id say is 3080

then probably 3070, 3060, 3070 ti, 3090, 3080 ti (80 ti and 90 could go either way depending on use case)

[storm harness]

I was thinking of getting 1660 reg or super for the time being but people want 600 for it

[mossy venture]

that aint right

i see them for 400 often

[storm harness]

Well the reg was around 400

[untold beacon]

Are y’all ready for the 3050

[strong raft]

1070/1080 are solid pics if found below $300/$400ish

[mossy venture]

yeah that absolute beast of a gpu itll be

1660 perf for 250$, and itll be scalped for 500

cant wait

[untold beacon]

Exactly

[storm harness]

I came from 1060 on my alienware. Poor laptop, motherboard finally went out

Probably didn't help I spilled water on it

[untold beacon]

Oof

[strong raft]

Donated it's life & allowed you to advance towards the PCMR.

[storm harness]

Lol

[untold beacon]

So what are you all doing right now

[twin berry]

im going to give you word of advice

never get gamemax

its bad

👍

good choice with seasonic

[untold beacon]

Gamemax is not good in my opinion at all

[storm harness]

I found xmp settings and set the extreme memory profile to enabled and it says adjusted dram frequency is 4600 but at the top it still says ddr speed is 2666

[twin berry]

mine keeps shutting off

[untold beacon]

That sucks

[twin berry]

apply then restart

@storm harness

or, well boot into windows

[untold beacon]

Yay

I mean ya

[storm harness]

Ok

I still have to install windows too

[twin berry]

wait

what ram do you have...?

did you go z690

or

[untold beacon]

He has a z690

For his motherboard

Forgot what his ram was

[storm harness]

Gskill 4600 16gb sticks

Trident Z

Rgb

[untold beacon]

Nice choice

[fringe iris]

Has anyone got an older build I could have pictures of? Im curious as to what it looks like

[untold beacon]

Sure

Well it’s 5 years old

If that’s old enough

[fringe iris]

Care to share the specs as well?

Yeah thats good

[untold beacon]

The only thing that I upgraded was the cpu

[fringe iris]

Im just sick of seeing such modern builds that i feel mine is so old

[strong raft]

It's set when you "save settings and restart".

[untold beacon]

Ryzen 7 2700c

2700x

[storm harness]

Reboot worked. Says its 4533

[untold beacon]

B550 tomahawk Motherboard

[fringe iris]

Doesnt look too bad i feel a bit better lol

[untold beacon]

Seagate 2 tb

Then a 750 rmx

Then the case I forgot what it was

Then a 1070

Msi edition

Oh forgot the ram

Gskill trident 32 gb

[fringe iris]

I was doing a
4000d airflow
i5-6600k
GIGABYTE GA-Z170X-Gaming 7 mobo
Trident G.skillz rgb 32 gbs
CORSAIR HX750w psu
Toshiba 1TB 7200rpm HD
1tb western sata ssd
250gb western ssd
Kraken x63 aio cooler
Powercolor rx5600xt

I cant afford a better cpu right now

[untold beacon]

Not bad

[strong raft]

My mobo

[untold beacon]

For a old setup

[fringe iris]

How olds that?

[untold beacon]

What is that

It looks like it’s 10 years old

[strong raft]

Haha, about 2012

[fringe iris]

How.. bad.. do you think my build is? Lol

[untold beacon]

Jesus

[fringe iris]

Im scared i cant run crap.. never had a pc before and my 2013 laptop sucks so bad

[strong raft]

Got cpu bottleneck? Yes I do

[untold beacon]

It’s all good

[fringe iris]

Same..

I wanna switch to ryzen though

[untold beacon]

Well you might need another motherboard then

[fringe iris]

Yeah I know

I was doing b550 aorus

[strong raft]

Decent build. Benchmarks would be neat to compare. I think that's still a 4c also

[fringe iris]

V2

Yeah i think so.. how well do you think itll run modern games.. like.. vanguard, halo infinite?

On youtube i get so many mixed reviews

[untold beacon]

It would be very low fps

Idk about the quality though

[fringe iris]

Only because of the cpu correct?

[untold beacon]

Ya

Wait what am I saying

[fringe iris]

You think I would be able to oc it to help?

[strong raft]

Games are mostly gpu based, but should do ok at 1080p. I get 45ish fps because of my CPU.

[little osprey]

use pcpartpicker…!

[untold beacon]

Ya I meant gpu

My bad

[fringe iris]

So my gpu is fine for modern games but my cpu sucks lol

[frank stirrup]

Not bad tbh

[fringe iris]

I plan on just doing 1080

[strong raft]

Cpu oc seems to help much more than gpu oc, but that's partly from "boost" being so good.

[frank stirrup]

Both are ok actually

[fringe iris]

Thank you i feel really crappy about it.. feel like its bad

Makes me feel a bit better

[untold beacon]

It’s not that bad

The gpu is just fine

[frank stirrup]

If you feel like its slow, just reinstall windows tbh

[untold beacon]

You just need a upgrade on your cpu

Whenever you get a chance

[frank stirrup]

Thats cpu is a whole lot better than a ryzen 1000 series

[fringe iris]

Im like so new to pc and most people make it seem like you need to spend 3000 for a good pc (I know you dont but it LOOKS that way)

[frank stirrup]

Maybe even ryzen 2000 sseeies

[strong raft]

Your cpu is 3 gen newer than mine & I played Halo infinite fine. I tried max settings though by mistake

[frank stirrup]

Yeah i know how it is

[untold beacon]

Well for a good pc you can spend $1000

[fringe iris]

How bad was it lol

[frank stirrup]

Decent one yeah

[fringe iris]

Well my whole build was free lol except cpu

[frank stirrup]

Good is around 1500

[twin berry]

powerade beast

[fringe iris]

Im not complaining but i wanna be able to do stuff for now

[frank stirrup]

Great one is like 2k+

[untold beacon]

Ya you already now

[fringe iris]

I think the 700w is good to hold on to

[untold beacon]

Powerade on top

[frank stirrup]

Im calling 3060 decent
3070 good
And 3080 and above great

[fringe iris]

Anyone got watercooling?

[untold beacon]

3090 is god

[frank stirrup]

Id rather have a 6900xt

Better raster

[fringe iris]

Whats the gpu youve got again?

[untold beacon]

I am going to get water cooling in the future

[frank stirrup]

Me?

[untold beacon]

Me

[fringe iris]

Rawr

[strong raft]

Reign I'd like to see your TimeSpy score compared to my rig.

[untold beacon]

Oh

[frank stirrup]

Ah i have a 3600x paired with an rx570

[fringe iris]

I dont have the pc yet, gettin it shipped soon everything has been coming in this week..

[frank stirrup]

RX580 actually

[fringe iris]

Oh thats not bad

[frank stirrup]

My rx570 outperforms an average rx580

[fringe iris]

How hard is it playing modern games, like do they not load or just really unplayable

[frank stirrup]

It really wont be hard

[fringe iris]

On my 2013 asus notebook laptop it wont even start anything

Among us even lags horribly lmao

[frank stirrup]

And loading depends on hard disk or ssd a lot more

[fringe iris]

What would you say all the parts are responsible for?

Gpu is graphics obviously

[frank stirrup]

Cpu is the brains

[untold beacon]

Yes sir

[frank stirrup]

Ram is like really fast storage which the cpu can access without waiting around

[fringe iris]

So cpu is what controls basically the frames you get?

[frank stirrup]

An average ssd has peak speads of 3000mbps

The ram will do 500gb

ps

[strong raft]

cpu is mostly about background stuff & perhaps the "map" of a game. Cpu is like a machine feeding you stuff and gpu is how fast or well you deal w/ the stuff. Requires a balance

[frank stirrup]

Motherboard makes sure everything is connected up properly

Power supply supplies power

[untold beacon]

GPU is the frames you get

[fringe iris]

Hmm so im guessing what matters the MOST is cpu and gpu

Then everything after

[untold beacon]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

Remember that cpu is directly linked to the ram

[storm harness]

Ok so here's with all the cords I could hide. Need more lights! Need to replace the 2 stock fans. And in need of a GPU to finish it off!

[fringe iris]

Is it bad to have more ram than you need.. exmpl: 64 gbs when you only need 16gbs

[frank stirrup]

Cpu doesn't really access the data on drives directly.. itll go to ram first and then cpu

[untold beacon]

That’s a nice pc

[frank stirrup]

Not at all bad

Just that with larger capacity sticks, ur gonna get slower ram

[untold beacon]

It’s not bad at all to have extra ram

[strong raft]

Been a long time since having "too much" ram actually was a thing

[untold beacon]

True

[fringe iris]

Yeah people said you should get 16gbs you dont need 32 gbs and i was like why not? Its a good deal? And they were like you just dont need it.. its dumb to get it

[strong raft]

Looks decent so far. More intake than exhaust is a good idea (positive air pressure)

[frank stirrup]

Like for example of this, I upgraded from 16gb of 3200c16 ram to 3800c14 ram and saw around a 10-20% cpu performance uplift across the board

[fringe iris]

You think my ram the gskill trident rgb 32gb would help my cpu? (I5 6600k)

[frank stirrup]

16 gb used to be enough ram upto a few months back

Now 32 has started becoming nore of the norm

[strong raft]

Benches or what? We know ram helps cpu, but 20%

[fringe iris]

I wish I could show you guys how it performs lol

Just for insight

[strong raft]

3dmark demo on steam

[frank stirrup]

Remember that i have a ryzen cpu so its way more impactful to me than to intel

[storm harness]

@strong raft Yea I need to take off the front bays that I won't ever use and flood this thing with more fans

[frank stirrup]

Real world testing and stuff

Gained frames and lower frame times

Much better 99th percentile lows

[fringe iris]

Man i cant wait for my ryzen.. im guessing itll help a lot upgrading the motherboard and cpu

[strong raft]

Easier when I don't have a rad, for sure. Technically 3 intake 1 exgaust & my side panel is usually off for no reason

[fringe iris]

When i get my pc, i cant leave my side panel off.. the amount of fur from my huskies would burn my pc

[storm harness]

That's what I like about this enthoo pro. It has detachable screens

[frank stirrup]

See the way ryzen works is that core complexes talk to each other using the "infinity fabric" which is directly tied to the speed of your ram.
With intel its just one complex so doesnt face that issue

[storm harness]

On the bottom and top

[strong raft]

Oh you had average latency then got better speed and CL. That would be quite a help

[fringe iris]

Yeah true. I wouldn’t had gone with intel if it was originally my build

[frank stirrup]

Intels way is actually better imo

[fringe iris]

How so

[frank stirrup]

You will get lower latency on ur cpu with some 3200 ram than i do on my tuned 3800 kit

[storm harness]

So why in the world is it telling me it can't install windows on my nvme. I formatted it !

[frank stirrup]

Since its all just one packet

[strong raft]

Performance with an Intel cpu is generally not much effected by ram until speed/latency is bad

There's various reviews that test game performance for example & shows how 3600MHz C16 is the best bang for buck (for intel)

[untold beacon]

Ya he’s speaking the facts

@strong raft

[fringe iris]

Has anyone heard of the coocat custom cables?

[frank stirrup]

In general

[untold beacon]

You think a i9 11900k would work for for a z-590

[strong raft]

Yes that's compatible

[untold beacon]

Just making sure with everyone

I don’t want to screw this up

Again

[strong raft]

Overpriced vs some other options.

[untold beacon]

Reign I have never heard of copycat custom cables

[stoic island]

11900k kinda sad for the performance it offers for the price though

[frank stirrup]

^

[twin berry]

y/n, 3d rendering and physics

[stoic island]

12700k is most likely a better option for you

[frank stirrup]

Theres 2 reasons to get a 11900k imo

[twin berry]

collector

[frank stirrup]

XOC and pushing b die to its limits

[untold beacon]

Ya but I have a z590 so it’s not compatible sadly

[fringe iris]

I already have some im just scared to use’em lol

[frank stirrup]

11700k then

[stoic island]

Only thing 11900k is good for is ddr4 ocing

its good for pushing freq on djr too

prob great for rev e too

[frank stirrup]

True

[untold beacon]

I already have the i9 11900k

[frank stirrup]

Rev e is lighter on the imc tho tbf

[strong raft]

Oh nvrmind

[frank stirrup]

Why ask then?

[stoic island]

quite unfortunate but a z590 board will work

[untold beacon]

I was just making sure with everyone

[strong raft]

It was $300 for em

[untold beacon]

Cause I don’t want to screw up again

Ya it was $300

[stoic island]

12600k is 300$ and beats 11900k in most relevant things

[storm harness]

I guess my on-board wifi isn't gonna work without drivers huh

[strong raft]

Ethernet ftw. Just drag the pc over by the router lol

[stoic island]

yea, need drivers

[strong raft]

Cheapest rev e or similar? Just curious

[storm harness]

I have to go search for one. I've been q laptop man for a long time. I forgot what an ethernet cord was

[untold beacon]

Well I ain’t buying a new motherboard a new cooler and a new cpu just for the 12th gen

[stoic island]

ballistix

[frank stirrup]

Ballistix 3200

[earnest olive]

$300 no tax is cheaper than $300 + tax still

[frank stirrup]

I dunno if the 3000 kit also has rev e

If it does that could be it

But yeah ballistix is a sure shot way

[stoic island]

was assuming some MC deal or smth, but even then I'd say tax is worth the perf bump from 11900k to 12600k

[strong raft]

All I bought so far was mobo & think I'll still stick w/ 10/11 gen haha. I was almost gonna wait for 12400.

[stoic island]

if you already have board, oh well

[earnest olive]

you also get to feel cool having an i9

[untold beacon]

Yes it

[earnest olive]

but yeah it's not a bad deal but it's not a huge steal either

[untold beacon]

Is awesome

So how is the pc doing @storm harness

[storm harness]

Well it's blazing fast right now. My ethernet cord isn't working or something

[untold beacon]

That’s wired

[storm harness]

The lights show up when plugged in

[untold beacon]

Weird

Maybe go into settings and check under Wi-Fi

See if it shows up as Ethernet

[storm harness]

It says windows did not detect a properly Installed network adapter

[untold beacon]

Interesting

[storm harness]

That's wierd you would figure it had a generic driver

[untold beacon]

It might just need to restart your settings

And see if it changes then

[storm harness]

Gonna restart router

[untold beacon]

Alright

[strong raft]

Finally got this monstrosity

[untold beacon]

That would work as well

[storm harness]

I tried restarting windows already

[untold beacon]

Nice motherboard I just don’t like the color achy

That’s why i didn’t buy the force

[storm harness]

What the heck is that? Spartan??

[untold beacon]

It’s a z-590 motherboard MSI force

[strong raft]

The $240 gaming force force force force force lol I got for $175. I already have a 35ft cat6 cable under the house for my pc so wifi wasn't a big deal

[strong raft]

Don't normally need drivers for ethernet, maybe we do with these newer 2.5Gb ports.
-edit to all. I impulse bought the mobo on sale but I'd say it was time for an upgrade. Having the latest gen before Intel's P+E core wackiness isn't bad. Not gonna be concerned w/ the newer parts being a bit faster. Finally the gpu will be the weaker link.

[untold beacon]

That might be the case

Forgot to ask what your cpu was Chillen

[storm harness]

Pet peve, they need to start putting the drivers and utilities CD as a USB. What gamer gets a cdrom......

[strong raft]

Ikr, games/movies could've been on a flash drive too.

[storm harness]

I'm having to Jump through hoops to get this on the internet lol it doesn't even have a generic driver for wired connection

[untold beacon]

That sucks

[storm harness]

It's either that or my cord is messed up

But I see lights so...

[strong raft]

Haven't decided. Something like 10700k 8c or the 11600K. Trying to stay under the msrp of the 11600K either way.

[untold beacon]

Well with the gaming force your ssd slot will be disabled if you go with the tenth gen

[strong raft]

Have you gotten through the windows install?

[covert vapor]

Drivers and utilities are something I can see easily going on a super cheap usb drive, but games and movies are a nope

[untold beacon]

But the tenth gen isn’t bad you can always use a hard drive

[strong raft]

There's 2 other m.2 slots anyways. Gen 4 ssd is too spendy also

[untold beacon]

And the 11600k is a good cpu as well

[strong raft]

I know, people mentioned drm/copyright bs. Online videos are huge also.

11600K went up a bit to $240 or $250 recently. Funny I'm leary of stuff like r/hardware swap but I use Ebay

[untold beacon]

Wait

[covert vapor]

Plus, I'd imagine it'd be easier to organize and pick out games when they are on disks for console and stuff, because lets be honest, most if not all newly released copies of video games on PC are digital and consoles are starting to edge towards digital only too

[strong raft]

Yeah the Series S is discless

[untold beacon]

The z-590 only has the first M.2 slot disabled so you can still use the other two slots for 10th gen

Or am I wrong

[strong raft]

Bingo

[untold beacon]

Oh shoot

Well I’m a go with the i7 10700k then

Good thing I didn’t buy that cpu from my firmed

Friend

[covert vapor]

Plus, if we don't have game cases, what are we going to do with our bookshelves

[untold beacon]

Yet

I’ll just tell him I don’t need it anymore

[strong raft]

Nah get it. 11 gen would allow use of the top slot. I meant bingo/correct to the earlier statement.

[untold beacon]

Well does it really matter though

If I can’t use the M.2 slot closest to the CPU

[strong raft]

Middle slot is hidden behind gpu I'm not a fan of, so I'd be sorta stuck with just the bottom slot

[covert vapor]

Moar room for NVME drives = gooder

Coming from the guy who has to use a PCIe expansion card for my third NVME drive, more slots is better

[strong raft]

Nvme has gotten to have similar price to most sata 3 drives also. Plus, 2 less cables for each nvme drive in a pc

[untold beacon]

So I should still go with i9 11900k

[strong raft]

I would. $300 w/ no tax is still pretty good. Way easier than swapping to z690/12gen.

[untold beacon]

Ya true

See thats the carbon

So where it says that you need a 11th gen processor for the M.2 it’s just for that one slot correct

Just making sure

[strong raft]

Ah, way more neutral. I would've liked that, although I didn't search Ebay too much for a deal at the time. Mine doesn't have the worst colors I've ever seen. I'm gonna take maybe a day or 2 to pick ram, then search hard for a cpu choice. Also I need a nvme ssd unless I just use the spare 1TB mx500 I currently have.

[untold beacon]

That’s a nice plan

[strong raft]

Yes, and that top slot is pcie 4.0 instead of 3.0 even though it's almost irrelevant for now.

[untold beacon]

So basically I should still get the i9 11900k

Just for that slot

Well I would go with i7 10700k because it’s a lot cheaper I can get it for $200

So I would rather save $100

But I guess

[strong raft]

For me a mobo/cpu is usually a longterm thing so I sometimes don't worry about a bit higher cost. For only gaming, I've heard 11600K is close to 10700k, but the 8 core i7 is enticing. Having the top m2 slot disabled isn't a big deal unless we had had 3 m2 drives I figure.

[untold beacon]

Well

You do have a fair point

I was just going to have a 980 and a 989 pro for ssds

980

[storm harness]

Yall better save that 400 atleast get the 12gen i7

[untold beacon]

Can’t with a z-590 motherboard

[storm harness]

Aww

[untold beacon]

I know it’s sad

[strong raft]

I'd sort of rather dodge the Ecore funkiness for now & the greater need for buggy Win11.

[storm harness]

Did yall upgrade to win11

[untold beacon]

No

I heard that it was buggy so I never did

[strong raft]

Heck I only went from Win 7 to 10 a month ago haha. I get stuff way after any big quirks are ironed out.

[storm harness]

Dang win7 is that penetration tester status

[strong raft]

Long live the king, and the king is finally dying. I skipped the crap that was Vista

[untold beacon]

Well I’m a think about which cpu to get

Might take me a day or two

[storm harness]

Vista was a win7 polished turd

[strong raft]

Vista was before 7 man

[storm harness]

Xp was the fastest

[covert vapor]

...I like Windows 10 more than 7

I went back and fiddled around in Windows 7 for a day or two a while back and tbh, it wasn't as good as my nostalgia told me

[strong raft]

Perhaps check a review on both & see if the $300 one will actually give you much of a benefit in most stuff you do. I5 deffo isn't really a bottle neck in games these days and very close to any i7/i9 (excl 12gen)

[untold beacon]

I mean the integrated graphics on the i9 11900k are better but the core clock and the boost clock are better on the i7 10700k

[strong raft]

I obviously had Win 7 a long time & it always worked good for me. Spare p45 rig probably has to stay on it. I am enjoying a lot about Wn10 I'll admit. adjusting to the start menu tile system. I wish arrow keys would go over to select a tile.

[untold beacon]

The boost clock is not better then the i7 10700k my bad

[covert vapor]

I don't even have tiles on my start menu anymore and tbh, don't even really use it

[strong raft]

K series means boost is irrelevant :)

[strong raft]

Oh, I use it more as a much larger start menu mostly I guess. Probably much more to learn still.

[covert vapor]

I mean, I use search occasionally, but I've found it easier to just use file explorer for some reason. I used to use the start menu all the time years ago but ever since I started using mods and stuff for my games I've just started doing everything with file manager

[storm harness]

So this 12700 is running at 5087mhz on ultra performance power plan. Wonder how much people have been overclocking these

[untold beacon]

Jesus

[storm harness]

I'm in windows update purgatory

[strong raft]

Yeah those 12gen boost a lot even before an OC. Well, after I remembered to remove the flash drive after a few needed reboots, I installed and updated Win 10 in under 30 minutes. ----what's up ---

[storm harness]

Yea I got the initial install done in like 10

This setup is a beast. Never had a pc this fast

[strong raft]

Wifi/ethernet? EDIT dm your specs will ya

[storm harness]

It was a usb

Although I'm in gig city...

[strong raft]

Hmm, i have 300Mbit net & a 250GB mx500 sata ssd. There are a lot of updates though.

[untold beacon]

So i should definitely get the i9 11900k

Well I mean I guess I will get it

[storm harness]

Won't let me dm you

[untold beacon]

I wonder why

[strong raft]

My bad, have to friend before dm.

[strong raft]

Haha, legit made me laugh

[untold beacon]

Exactly

Did you get my dm Chillen

[strong raft]

Fine time for me to go do a couple hours of work. It's brisk outside though

[untold beacon]

Yes

Very dead

I’m just playing on my Xbox right now

Wait noooooooooo

What time is it for you

@strong raft

[strong raft]

11pm.

[untold beacon]

Your 2 hours behind me

It’s almost 1 over here

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-future-jedi-star-wars-impossible-to-see-gif-17003119

[untold beacon]

1:00 A.M

[storm harness]

Dang it's 150am here

[untold beacon]

Let me guess California

[storm harness]

Lies

[untold beacon]

I’m just watching South Park right now

[strong raft]

I use a Roku instead for movies, until I get another Xbox. Series S probably. $250ish would be nice. Sold my One S for $220ish a year or so ago. I miss some couch gaming

[untold beacon]

Nice

Bro I’m selling my Xbox one s for $200 because I got the 1 tb version

[errant fiber]

i sold my original xbox from 2013 for $185

500gb

i'm sure you can get more

[untold beacon]

Jesus

[strong raft]

It's only not a prime time since it's now after xmas, but who knows. Tax returns coming up

[untold beacon]

Ya you are right about that

[strong raft]

I sold mine to someone simply looking for a bday present

[untold beacon]

Hope it was a good bday present for that person

Right now in South Park they are trying to figure out who Mexican Joker is

[strong raft]

I only could give 3 or 4 disc'd games w/ it, but that should help. Crazy but I only had about 6 total xbox games & 2 were DLd so now I could play them on my pc if I wanted. Was gonna finish then uninstall a few campaign-only games 1st

[untold beacon]

Well that sounded like it worked out well

[strong raft]

No warranty, but I didn't hear any bad news later.

[strong raft]

Late-night pc builder what's up?

[untold beacon]

What about me it’s 1:10 right now

[strong raft]

Southpark for you

[little osprey]

what ssd do i get i have the b560 motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

depends on your budget

[little osprey]

like 100)

50-80 somewhere around that

[obsidian wigeon]

then

1tb sn550

it's about 84 on newegg rn

iirc

[untold beacon]

Or that

[little osprey]

o

does the b560 have 2 ssd slots

[untold beacon]

I was going to say he could get a 2tb seagate hard drive

But that ssd still works

[desert gulch]

Yes but if you have a 10th gen cpu only one will work

[little osprey]

i have like the i7 11000f something

16 threads

[desert gulch]

If it's 11th gen you're fine then

[little osprey]

i7 11700f

idk whags 11th gen cpu

[desert gulch]

Aslong as it's 11th gen they'll both work

[strong raft]

11xxx is 11 gen, 10xxx cpu is 10 gen

[little osprey]

ohh alright

thanks

[strong raft]

Agree sn550 is a good decent priced ssd.

[untold beacon]

@strong raft

Dang it

He went idle

[strong raft]

? You can switch profile to Idle actually

[untold beacon]

Oh you back

Yes

It said you were idle

See like I’m idle right now

But I’m actually here

[upper rock]

a dual monitor or a ultra hd monitor?
usecase: programming

[stoic island]

Usually programming would want more screen real-estate over better looks

[cold girder]

alright so, i was asked to make a build for strictly 700 or under, integrated graphics (because gpu market is depressing)
thoughts? anything you would suggest changing? @ me when responding
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MqGZ4d

[errant fiber]

it's good but you don't need that big of a psu unless you're upgrading to a gpu later on

[cold girder]

i think eventually they would

obviously, not gonna happen anytime soon though

[errant fiber]

ya it's pretty decent

[cold girder]

alright

[fossil cedar]

Psu is overpriced af, ram is meh but I'd get this instead for 700$ budget if you don't plan on having much more than 700$ if you do for like 1k you can get a 1660 super pc with better upgrade path
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-tg01-1070m-3g825av-1?jumpid=ma_hp-gaming_product-tile_desktops_19_3g825av-1_hp-pavilion-gaming-d
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hPfnTW/silicon-power-xpower-gaming-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdc

[cold girder]

This isnt for me, this is for someone else lmao
It's a strict 700 budget, so it's a no go on the suggested prebuilt, but I'll look at the ram. Dont recognize the xpower brand, that's why I put corsair instead

[fossil cedar]

Well what's your real budget then?

[cold girder]

I just said-

Strict $700 or under

$ being USD

[fossil cedar]

Then it is for you

The prebuilt is 625

[cold girder]

Oh

Lmfao

[fossil cedar]

Then 50$ for the ram

[cold girder]

Dead ass can not tell if the prebuilt has wifi or not lmao

[fossil cedar]

I believe it does

[cold girder]

[fossil cedar]

Yep it do

[cold girder]

Gotta love pcs, not a fan of prebuilts, but ill maybe suggest that to them

[fossil cedar]

It's the best thing they're gonna get for 700$

Will kick the 5600g's ass

Hands down

[little osprey]

+1

[cold girder]

Obv a proper gpu is gonna kick integrated's ass lmao

[shrewd fjord]

Hey I have question

Is $200 good for a GIGABYTE GV-N1650OC-4GD GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4G Video Card ?

[errant fiber]

yes

[errant fiber]

that is very good

if you don't buy that rn i will

[fossil cedar]

No

[fossil cedar]

1650 for 200$ is bad

You can get a gtx 970 for that ez

[errant fiber]

1650 for $200 in this market isn't that bad

i thought that's good

since they're all going for like 400+

[fossil cedar]

No

970 would be like 20% better and be gotten for less

[shrewd fjord]

Isnt 1650 better than 970

[fossil cedar]

No

[shrewd fjord]

Oh fr

Why I see so many 1650 for like $400

[fossil cedar]

970 is ~25% better

[shrewd fjord]

And 970 for 200

[fossil cedar]

Because ppl recognise 1650 more

[errant fiber]

do it

[shrewd fjord]

I'm at $175 right now with the 1650 plus 20 shipping

So I should get a 970?

[fossil cedar]

970 would be way better choice

[errant fiber]

did you find any

[shrewd fjord]

There are lots of 970 for $200

Ebay and mercari are good

I am just looking for ones that haven't been used too much

The 1650 I am on rn is brand new in its box never opened

[fossil cedar]

Uhh you're not gonna find new 970s they're like 5 years or so old, you might find the odd 1650 new but it doesn't matter at all

[shrewd fjord]

It doesn't matter if it's new or not?

[errant fiber]

no

[fossil cedar]

No

As long as it's listed as new and not for parts

[errant fiber]

people part out gpus?

what

[fossil cedar]

It's ebays term for broken

[errant fiber]

o

[shrewd fjord]

Xd

Well thanks pato

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

Yeah some people try to hide it’s a part only (dead) as well so don’t get scammed 😂

[limber oyster]

Difference in performance between Ryzen 5 1600, 5 3600, and 7 1800?

[fossil cedar]

3600 woops the other 2's asses in everything

[limber oyster]

👍

Would a 2600x be a good cheaper alternative?

Upgrading from a i3-8300

[topaz kestrel]

why not just go to like a 10400 or smth?

[silver cipher]

What about a Ryzen 5600x? Cuz I just got mine

[limber oyster]

Board would need bios

[limber oyster]

1151 isn't compatible with 10th gen

But I can get a b550 for $50 locally

[topaz kestrel]

then get a 1200 board?

ih

oh*

[limber oyster]

Ueah

*yeah

They'll prove it works and everything

[silver cipher]

I got a msi b550 gaming plus mother board

[topaz kestrel]

my brothers r5 1600 is fine for everything he plays like civ 5-6 and some games like for honor and modded mc

and rust

[limber oyster]

This is the old version

[topaz kestrel]

ive got a b560m pro vdh wifi

so hot

[limber oyster]

That's what it is

[silver cipher]

Nice

[limber oyster]

But box says 3000 series

[silver cipher]

Would it still work tho? If not then I need to update

[topaz kestrel]

you can always flash the bios if it supports that gen of processors

[limber oyster]

And the 2600x is like $60 cheaper than the 3000/5000 Ryzen 5

Sorry, $80 cheaper

[silver cipher]

True

[simple olive]

Rn due to costs its cheaper to go with a 11400 if you don't wanna OC compared to a 3600x

[topaz kestrel]

oh heck i forgot my mobo has bluetooth

thats dope

[silver cipher]

And sorry guys, im probably gonna be asking a crap ton of questions cuz I’ve never built a pc before

[limber oyster]

I'm getting am4 board for $50, 11400 wouldn't be cheaper

[topaz kestrel]

thats what the chat is for

[limber oyster]

Are you on Kik? Ik someone with that same pfp

[simple olive]

AMD is better, but cpu costs are above msrp for Ryzen 5's :(

[mossy venture]

see if you can find a 3300x for msrp or under

[silver cipher]

I don’t believe so

[limber oyster]

What's MSRP for a 3300x?

[simple olive]

Ryzen 5900x is cheaper than msrp though ☺️

[limber oyster]

Trying to spend less than $300

2600x is $223

[mossy venture]

120 iirc but let me double check

[topaz kestrel]

isnt a 5600x like 300 ish?

[simple olive]

$120 right?

[mossy venture]

yeah 120

but it tends to get scalped

[topaz kestrel]

idk american pricing lol

[simple olive]

American pricing is oof unless you go ryzen 7 or 9

[limber oyster]

Pffftt

He has a 4GB GPU

He don't need no Ryzen 9

[simple olive]

Ye same price as 3600x, 3600 and 2600x

[mossy venture]

used you can find a 5600x for like 240 on r/hardwareswap

[limber oyster]

I can get a 2600x for $223 rn

[mossy venture]

yeah no

you shouldnt pay over 120 for that, and thats on the high end

where are you looking at that

[limber oyster]

Amazon

[mossy venture]

yeah no

[limber oyster]

I have like $160 in Amazon credit

[mossy venture]

dont look at old gen cpus on retailers

if you want to buy an old gen cpu you should buy used

[limber oyster]

There's none within 100 miles of me used

[mossy venture]

otherwise youll end up wayyy overpaying, that is over the cpus old msrp

[mossy venture]

then dont buy it

one second

ill send you a link

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5600X-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B08166SLDF/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1HEBEUCL999S9&keywords=5600x&qid=1640969206&sprefix=5600x%2Caps%2C76&sr=8-2

[limber oyster]

Again, I'll only end up paying like $60 out for pocket, I have $160 in Amazon credit from things that they've sent me that was broken or never delivered

[mossy venture]

and the 5600x is like 80% better in single core

[mossy venture]

thats not the issue

the link youre looking at is terrible, and theres no reaason to buy that

the 160 is still money

look for a 3600 used

[topaz kestrel]

i mean tbh its there money and they might not need such a powerful gpu lol

[mossy venture]

they go for like 150$ on ebay and such

[topaz kestrel]

cpu*

[mossy venture]

you can always use the 150 for something else

or just buy the 5600x off amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-10400-Desktop-Processor-LGA1200/dp/B086MN38Q2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1T45SRDGUBO9I&keywords=10400&qid=1640969374&sprefix=10400%2Caps%2C73&sr=8-1 or go for this

it beats a 3600 by a bit

which is a gen higher than 2600x

and its also cheaper

[mossy venture]

check out the 10400

[limber oyster]

Again, price of the motherboard

[mossy venture]

you already have a motherboard?

what motherboard

[limber oyster]

I'm trying to spend less than $300

[limber oyster]

I'm getting a b550 for $50

And yes it works

[simple olive]

Wait really? That's better than a couple weekd ago

[limber oyster]

The current board is a gigabyte h310 gsm micro ATX

[mossy venture]

i absolutely hate reccomending this like this, but its cheaper thana 3600 on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5600G-12-Thread-Processor/dp/B092L9GF5N/ref=sr_1_7?crid=18Y5J4N2PPAS5&keywords=3300x&qid=1640969484&sprefix=3300x%2Caps%2C74&sr=8-7

it has the perf of a 3600

with an igpu

[mossy venture]

and its still ana wful price

when the 3600 has an msrp of 200 and beats it in absolutely everything

[simple olive]

10400 + mobo + cooler is less than 5600x + mobo that's true

[mossy venture]

yes but the 10400 is worse

intels equivelant is the 11600k

[simple olive]

It's a <5% difference and a 2x PL2 TDP difference though

If you're 1080p @ 60hz gamer there is no difference

[limber oyster]

You seem to be ignoring the fact that I can get a am4 mono for $50

What Intel Mobo is under $150

Add in CPU cost....

I'm already above $300

[topaz kestrel]

alot of mobos xd?

[limber oyster]

Quality one?

[topaz kestrel]

alot of mobos

[mossy venture]

if you buy that 10400

it leaves you enough money to buy an 80$ b460

[limber oyster]

Which?

[simple olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zpH7YJ/msi-mag-b560m-bazooka-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-mag-b560m-bazooka

$100

[limber oyster]

Trying to go regular ATX

[simple olive]

U running 2 gpu?

[limber oyster]

He has a Rosewill Thor v2 case

[mossy venture]

performance over looks

[topaz kestrel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HpH7YJ/msi-b560m-a-pro-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b560m-a-pro

[simple olive]

U running a network card + gpu?

[limber oyster]

Yes

[simple olive]

Oki

[mossy venture]

i dont think you understand how bad of a purchase that 2600x is

[simple olive]

It's not, stop chasing benchmarks

[mossy venture]

AHAHHA

[limber oyster]

Price to performance doesn't sound bad

[topaz kestrel]

a 2600x can literally play nearly anything thrown at it xd

[mossy venture]

benchmarks are litteraly the most important factor when buying a cpu

[mossy venture]

and its still losing performance

and overpaying for a cpu

[topaz kestrel]

ok?

[simple olive]

A FX 9370 from 13 years ago can still hit over 60fps at 1080p

[limber oyster]

My brother plays mostly GPU intensive games anyways so...

[simple olive]

In assassins creed Valhalla everything maxed

[topaz kestrel]

you 100% been looking at too much userbenchmark

[limber oyster]

CPU performance isn't AS important

[mossy venture]

i literally gave a link to cpubenchmark.net

[simple olive]

2600x is fine, but you're kneecaps at 300mhz ram

3000*

[mossy venture]

not that

[limber oyster]

He's using 2133 rn lol

[mossy venture]

no

wrong name

[simple olive]

MT/s

[limber oyster]

His board is limited to 2133 max

[mossy venture]

oh wait no i didnt send the link

one sec

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600X/3859vs3494vs3235vs3000

this is what i looked at

yeah it was the right name

[simple olive]

Cpu benchmark.net

[mossy venture]

i dont use ubm at all lmao

[simple olive]

Depends on games the person wants to run too

[mossy venture]

the 2600x doesnt make sense to buy when you can buy that 10400 and have 80$ left for a motherboard

[simple olive]

Fortnite can be ran with a pentium 2

[mossy venture]

unless you already bought the b550

[simple olive]

It does if you want to upgrade to a used 5600x when amd drops the new CPU's in the first quarter if the year

[mossy venture]

and the 10400 can be upgraded to an 11600k

and they perform the same

[limber oyster]

Mostly world of tanks and such

As well as some space craft building simulator game(not Kerbal)

[simple olive]

Then any cpu listed will work

[limber oyster]

Mostly GPU intensive ganes

*games

That's why I'm not too worried about performance

He just needs more than dual ores

*cores

6 preferably

I'd do a Ryzen 3 if their prices weren't so close to Ryzen 5

[simple olive]

Yea

Offers alot more upgrade options

Later on

[serene hedge]

i have created the worst PC ever

[simple olive]

Could ya share?

[limber oyster]

What about i5-9400 and keep the current motherboard?

[jagged ember]

oof

no hyperthreading

[limber oyster]

Better than i3-8300

[jagged ember]

it's just one generation apart

[limber oyster]

One gen and 4 more cores

I3 is dual core

[serene hedge]

it might be, it might not be https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qWw4F8

[simple olive]

Why

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/BX80684I59400-Intel-I5-9400-Processor-FC-LGA14A/dp/B07R66WTM4/ref=sr_1_2?crid=18VSYYV3PSK0N&keywords=9400&qid=1640970395&sprefix=9400%2Caps%2C88&sr=8-2

[limber oyster]

Yep

[serene hedge]

why what

[simple olive]

Lolol why ddr2 & 2 core

[limber oyster]

And I already have an aftermarket lga 1511 cooler too

So I could look for one w/o cooler

[serene hedge]

it's was the cheapest thing lol

[simple olive]

Could I try?

To make 1 for $400?

[serene hedge]

sure

i mean, iv'e already created a $460 build

[limber oyster]

Would that work? Better than ryzen?

[mossy venture]

price/perf yes

[fossil cedar]

I3 10100/10400 would be better choice imo but I'm assuming you have a spare am4 board? Used r5 3600 would be my choice

[limber oyster]

Buying one for $50

[mossy venture]

wait

does the 2600x beat the 9400?

benches im looking at shows the 2600x beating the 9400

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gQfhP6/gigabyte-h310m-s2h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-h310m-s2h
Here's the board we have for the intel

[simple olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C3RWnL

[limber oyster]

And can't find any used Ryzen locally

[mossy venture]

then get a used ryzen shipped to you

you could get a used 3600 for like 150

[simple olive]

You can get the win10 key from brytesoft.com where best buy sells their extra OEM keys

[mossy venture]

or a 3300x for like 130-140

[limber oyster]

Issue is I'm trying to stick Amazon, since I have that $160 credit

3300x is $300 on amazon

[mossy venture]

could you find a friend that needs smthn off amazon and then they could give you the money for the item?

[limber oyster]

Nope

[mossy venture]

yes, because amazon sucks for old gen cpus

or any original retailer really

[limber oyster]

Might just go i5 9400

$147

[fossil cedar]

Then get intel

@limber oyster what's budget?

[limber oyster]

$300

[mossy venture]

why not get that 10400 off amazon and have 120 left for a mobo?

[fossil cedar]

with or without ram?

[limber oyster]

With out. Already have 2x8 GB 3200mhz Corsair Vengeance

Non-rgb

[fossil cedar]

need wifi?

[limber oyster]

Yes

I'm tired of stupid Ethernet stretched across the house

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f3Ytmk

or without the cooler or gammaxx 400

[limber oyster]

Without

Pretty sure the cooler I got came with the brackets for up to lga 1200

[mossy venture]

how much better than the 9400 is the 10400?

[fossil cedar]

well for one hyperthreading means better smoothness of the pc overall

but a decent amount

really depends on game tho

and ram

[mossy venture]

"'worlds fastest pc' hits 100kph packing core i9-12900k and RX6900 XT" is a title of an article and i hate that i know what its talking about

[topaz kestrel]

my mobo :3

[fossil cedar]

Good mobo

[untold beacon]

Nice mobo

@mossy venture I never asked what your build was before

[mossy venture]

one sec

[untold beacon]

Alright

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WmKbnL the two hard drives arent the exact models, the 4tb is an hgst 7200rpm and the 2tb is actually an external seagate drive but i couldnt find them on pcp, and the ram is also a different brand

only reason the 660p is in there is bc i got it for free

wait

wrong case, one sec

[untold beacon]

Alright

[mossy venture]

there we go, sorry https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v88NkX

[untold beacon]

Nice build you got going there

[mossy venture]

started as a pre built

that i regret buying

only things left from it are the cs900 gpu and cpu

ended up spending way too much for a 3600 and 3060 ti build

my friend made a 3080 5800x custom build for less

:p

[untold beacon]

I don’t like going with pre built because then there is always something you don’t like about it

That’s a good build your friends got then

[mossy venture]

i just wish i went ABS

i didnt know much about pcs when i bought it

i just knew how things performed

didnt know that skytech was terrible

didnt know i should check the mobo and such

was 1200$ originally

went to over 1800

[untold beacon]

Oof

Little expensive their

[mossy venture]

yeah

it sucks

[untold beacon]

Hold on

[mossy venture]

i also overpaid for the case and the psu i had before this from a local pc shop

[untold beacon]

I’ll show you my build in one sec

[mossy venture]

because i still didnt know much about pcs

spent 150$ for a 60$ psu that i just had to replace...

[untold beacon]

Oof

[mossy venture]

spent 150$ on this case too

[untold beacon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmmsbh

[mossy venture]

never buying crap from that pc shop again

[mossy venture]

nice build

[untold beacon]

Hold on forgot about the extra storage

Thanks

[mossy venture]

that keebs a lil expensive

i got the keychron k4

roccat kone pro i believe

or kone air

i forget which i ended up getting

[untold beacon]

Well it’s steelseries what do you expect

[mossy venture]

my monitors are 1440p75hz used that i got for 120$, 1080p165hz that i bought new when i bought the original pre built for 150, and a 1050p60hz that i bought with my first pc that i had before this one

1030 w a 3470

not a great gaming experience lmao

[untold beacon]

Ya that doesn’t sound good at all