#building-and-recc-chat

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twin sedge
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Unless its not actually working and the cpu is overheating but if its brand new i highly doubt thats the case

twilit salmon
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Yeah everything is working

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Idk whats going on

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I just cant boot

twin sedge
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Check to make sure everything is fully plugged in

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If so try putting the old cpu cooler on and seeing if it would boot that way

twilit salmon
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Alright

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I unplugged some random fan header which i dont even know what it was for and suddenly it works fine…

twin sedge
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Well there you go

twilit salmon
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All my fans are still spinning

twin sedge
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Ig the header may be broken and its causing the mobo to malfunction

twin sedge
twilit salmon
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It was a normal fan connector though

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Oh i didnt fix it…

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I had to reboot and its doing the same thing again

twin sedge
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I guess your last option would be to do a fresh windows install

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But try troubleshooting some more

twilit salmon
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I cant even get into that part of the boot minue

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Menu*

twilit salmon
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Could the pump fans being in the wrong slot potentially screw it up?

twin sedge
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Not likely because i dont see how the fans would affect the system booting

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But ig try another slot

twilit salmon
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Alright

twin sedge
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Or what could possibly be the case is your cpu may have shifted when installing the aio and might not fully or correctly be in the socket

twilit salmon
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Alright

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I might just wait till the weekend honestly to mess with it as im getting a new motherboard then

strong raft
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Fan/pump header could be causing a short or soemthin.

twilit salmon
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Okay… a hard drive had chosen the worst time to die

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Thats why

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Okay not only is it dead but its the one with actual important stuff on it…

jagged ember
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do you have backups?

twilit salmon
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Nope the one thing i cared about was photos and this was the backup…

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Okay i was wrong that drive didnt have important things on it

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My smaller drive is the one with important things

jagged ember
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good

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rip main drive though, was it an nvme drive?

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also for data security I save my important files in 2 separate drives and in 1 offsite location

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not exactly up to the 321 backup scheme, but close enough that I don't think it'll be a problem

twilit salmon
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It was a 2TB HDD

jagged ember
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oof

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i'd go with a new nvme drive this time around if your mobo has the port for it

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as your boot drive, i mean

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booting and other tasks will feel so much faster

cyan plaza
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Is this any good wasn't going you buy it unless it was good with a good price

jagged ember
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it's a tier a single rail

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it's good

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just double check prices from other retailers to be sure that's actually a good deal lol

strong raft
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Single 12v gpu rail you mean? Funny how common that is though. Does seem like a great price for 80+ plat

jagged ember
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yeah, seems like a good price for plat

strong raft
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I'd almost buy it if I didn't have a new 650w G+ as backup/future psu (was $60)

jagged ember
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I'd buy it if I didn't already have a psu

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hmm but as a backup it sounds like a good idea

strong raft
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$15 card is from seasonic specifically, so might be 5+ yrs before you actually use that, lol.

fossil cedar
sharp tangle
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normal for this much ram to be eaten up with 4 chrome tabs open, discord and spotify? ik windows eats some ram but im not sure how much

fossil cedar
sharp tangle
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alright thanks pato XD wanted to make sure i was all good

twilit salmon
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Also now my motherboard/CPU debug light is on and my PC wont boot…

stark quail
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hey guys im trying to build a PC and my budget is 2k$ what should i get?

sharp tangle
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you plan on getting a card for msrp or scalped?

fossil cedar
twilit salmon
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i tried turning off the PSU and now suddenly its working again

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i had done that 3 times prior

stark quail
jagged ember
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whoa

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that's a cpu cooler I haven't seen before

fossil cedar
cyan plaza
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But if Plat is only $20 more then gold that's not a bad deal

cyan plaza
cunning spade
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Does anyone know a good GPU

vapid igloo
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I need a computer case
Any recommendations?
I want something that has good airflow and looks epic
ARGB too
And fans obviously

vapid igloo
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No recommendations?

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@cunning spade

cunning spade
vague oracle
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@vapid igloo Take a look at the Corsair 4000D airflow, Lancool II Mesh, or P500A

stoic island
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td500 mesh, h500 no-suffix, and p400a

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say no to corsair >:p

vague oracle
stoic island
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anti-corsair coalition

vague oracle
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Yeah yeah yeah suuuuure

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Okay so if you’re anti Corsair what do you think of this?

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Corsair>NZXT

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Muahahaha

stoic island
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Corsair = NZXT = Trash

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ez

vague oracle
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…goddamnit

stoic island
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ahahaha

clever nova
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would you guys rather take a 3080 strix at msrp 1179 or a 3080 ti fe at msrp 1199?

stoic island
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3080ti

clever nova
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thanks

little osprey
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having some trouble finding a prebuilt pc; any recommendations for a $1700 budget?

naive oracle
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ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3060 Ti or EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA?

strong raft
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4k = 3070, 1440P = 3060 Ti perhaps. Depending on price, I might say 3070, res regardless.

frank stirrup
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4k on a 3070 is not gonna be fun without dlss

strong raft
lavish chasm
strong raft
fresh kettle
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I bought a case with two fans in it and I have a 240 rad and an extra fan. Should I put all 3 single fans to the front and the rad on top for exhaust? Or 2 in the front 1 in back and rad on top?

tight sorrel
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3 fans in front, rad top

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positive pressure = less dust build up

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then you can aquire another fan and put it in the back later

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
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^

cosmic fjord
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..

stoic island
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?

cosmic fjord
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Idk

rugged sparrow
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Yo, does anyone know when Newegg restocks on open box PCs

stoic island
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So whenever someone returns one open box

untold vessel
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Mr1111

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You’re such a Zaddy

stoic island
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Wat

untold vessel
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Zaddy 😩

rugged sparrow
obsidian wigeon
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Yes

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But open box usually means returns like, people not wanting it anymore

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So it's pretty much brand new

desert gulch
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Yeah only thing you can run into is cables and that type of small stuff potentially not there

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But for such a cheaper price, even if you have to buy a couple cables, it's still way worth usually

gleaming pasture
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I'm an environment artist for AAA video games an I'm currently looking into purchasing a PC through newegg. Trying to keep the cost around 3k. I game sometimes, but not this will mostly be used for zbrush, unreal engine 4, and photoshop.

This is what im thinking about purchasing:

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-prism2-0282-b-ne-prism-ii/p/N82E16883289215?Item=N82E16883289215&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-289-215-_-12092021

and fit the Prism II with these:

https://www.newegg.com/patriot-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820225286?Item=N82E16820225286&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-225-286-_-12092021

  1. Is there something better I should look into?

  2. How can I determine if a desktop can be legally shipped to Washington state? I know there are new regulations, but I have no idea where to find out what i can and cannot order. This would be super helpful. Can I order the Prism II (Desktop in link) for example?

  3. Do you know if these two linked products are compatible? How do I find out?

  4. I realize it only has 1TB of storage. I have a gigantic external already and have an SSD to spare. I  also just like the all glass case.

Any and all help or pointers would be greatly appreciated!

earnest olive
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if it's non-LHR you could turn around and trade it for a 3080ti FE + cash lol

topaz kestrel
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Honestly I’ve heard some bad reviews on sky tech but if you really wanted it go ahead

obsidian wigeon
topaz kestrel
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Yeah the price is a bit of an Oof for what it is

earnest olive
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i've seen worse tbh

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assuming we're talking market prices for the 3080

obsidian wigeon
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For same price abs does offer better

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Quality and such

earnest olive
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the price is actually quite reasonable here

topaz kestrel
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Tbh if they wanted those specs go for an abs and buy the case alone lol

mossy venture
obsidian wigeon
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Price is reasonable but I trust newegg's stuff more

mossy venture
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They gave me a 500w white instead of a 600w gold it was supposed to have, a mobo that died after 3 months, a case and fans that were oem and only worked with that mobo (idefk how on the fans)

earnest olive
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looks like ABS is only offering intel cpu

mossy venture
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And a heatsink worse than a stock cooler that my 3600 hit 90c on

earnest olive
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think i'd rather have the 5800x than an 11900K for productivity

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well thats a 360 aio in the picture

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the skytech one also has a gen 4 ssd

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as for build quality that's a toss up

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the power supply on the skytech is only listed as "850W"

mossy venture
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Sips they sent me the wrong psu and wouldn't send me a new one

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That sums up their entire build quality

earnest olive
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could absolutely be a complete piece of crap or could be a decent unit

gleaming pasture
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im pretty clueless haha

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i basicalky work 24/7

earnest olive
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all i know is that gamers nexus favorably reviewed high end skytech as "one of the best"

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also favorably reviewed ABS

topaz kestrel
earnest olive
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but ABS's $2800 option here doesn't look as good to me

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if this guy decides he needs more cpu cores the x570 board has room for more

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the ABS build is going to be a dead end need new mobo

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and we all know about 11900K efficiency in productivity tasks

gleaming pasture
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i dont render out anything via batching*

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and all of the software i use renders to GPU

earnest olive
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i know photoshop makes my 5800x sweat when saving images but the other stuff i'm not familiar with

mossy venture
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(Sarcasm)

gleaming pasture
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im under the impression i should buy a prebuilt atm

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due to high gpu pricing

earnest olive
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no, you could do better if you're willing to custom build

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that's outdated info

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prebuilt manufacturers realized what people were doing

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and now they are scalping too

gleaming pasture
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was what i heard at the watercooler at work (equivalent of). that's really good to know.

earnest olive
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i did a better build than this skytech for sub 2k after wasting $200+ on decorations

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featuring 5800x 3080 as well

mossy venture
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My friend built a 5800x 3080 build for 1600$

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Dark rock 4 pro

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In the midst of the shortage too

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5800x for 400$ when the 5000 series shortage was a thing

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Msrp asus tuf 3080

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Meanwhile I went pre built

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And ended up rebuilding for a total of 1750$ for a 3060 ti build

earnest olive
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5800x + 360mm aio + 3800c14 ram + 1tb gen 4 sdd + 2tb gen 3 ssd + 3080 + enough fans to achieve liftoff + enough lighting for a stadium

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seriously if i ramp the fans this thing can shake my desk

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with like 100 pounds of crap on it

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still sub 2k

topaz kestrel
earnest olive
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yes

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i actually did overclock it for fun

topaz kestrel
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Pretty pog

earnest olive
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went from 60hz to 200hz

topaz kestrel
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Paimon 8k 400hz

gleaming pasture
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I'm going to straight up build what you have @earnest olive Which fans and cables to you have? Do you have an arduino or raspberry pi looping the video?

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explain like I'm five haha

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i have all the parts you listed pulled

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same with the case

earnest olive
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no its just a bog standard hdmi monitor running wallpaper engine

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i can put whatever i want on there

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i can game on it

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cables are lian li strimers

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fans are generic id-cooling argb fans

gleaming pasture
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is this the case?

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is size standardized on fans?

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ah, i see. i wish i had a momitor to spare haha. i do have wallpaper engine though. its just not ideal to run it when using tools.

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maybe feed the screen from another pc

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atm, i have two desktops, a laptop, a tv, 3 32 inch monitors

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but i flew to close to the sun. the universe didn't want me to be batman

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2000 in damages later, I'm looking at just getting a large 32:9 monitor above my 32 in Wacom Cintiq Pro

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im thinking the Scepter 49 inch

earnest olive
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i don't have the XL just a regular o11

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they're just 120mm fans yes

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the monitor was like $55

gleaming pasture
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9 fans and 2 strimers for the lighting? Which motherboard do you have?

cyan plaza
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it's why i was looking at it if gold and plat is the same price why not go with plat?

earnest olive
fossil cedar
cyan plaza
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ya that was like $60 more 😄

fossil cedar
cyan plaza
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wait i did my math poorly

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$40.00 more

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then at that point i would just go for gold slandered which would be like a $50 psu

fossil cedar
cyan plaza
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ill never go back to none modular

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cases where never made for those types of connections and when you had 2 hdd that was a pain bending all the sata cord to force them to fit

fossil cedar
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Fair nough

uneven sapphire
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For a fresh 12th gen build, are u going to install win10 or win11?

cyan plaza
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I couldn't put the side panel on since the cord comes out of the case trying to fit to Sata next to each other. But tried other ports but they couldn't fit as well

@pato

Just horrible design for people with 2 to 3 drives or drives just in a row

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honestly wish they redo sata points so there closer because it would make much more sense for 2 drives since there so far apart

bitter mason
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Is that peicd awful or am I trippin?

twin sedge
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For $630

bitter mason
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Ya that's what I meant. Seems stupid high

twin sedge
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Well its amazon

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The worst priced gpus

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That aio though is looking kinda good

bitter mason
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GT1030 for $110

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It's Woot.

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They're amazon company but

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Separate technically

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Ya lf2 price is decent

cyan plaza
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it's most likely pulling it from a marketplace seller on amazon

bitter mason
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What's hash on 1030? Seeing conflicting data. One claimed 30 on eth

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That one is 2gb so eh

hazy wadi
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You better

strong raft
sharp temple
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PC certification boys!

strong raft
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Nice, that's somethin I'd like to complete

little osprey
stoic island
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Better chance with a console at that kinda budget tbh

little osprey
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Well mom didnt raise a console scrub now did she?

fossil cedar
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If you had like ~600 you could do pc

stoic island
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I say 600$ in current situation can get you a decent iGP build

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Or get lucky with GPU

little osprey
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Damn

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Wellp

fossil cedar
stoic island
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Oh fun

fossil cedar
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Yee

little osprey
fossil cedar
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8gb ram but you can update later on

topaz kestrel
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@little osprey my friend can run over watch on a 1030 so you can always try xd

fossil cedar
little osprey
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Yea

stoic island
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GT710 is worse than 1030

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Quite a bit worse

little osprey
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How much

stoic island
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Uhd630 is better than a gt710

little osprey
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Damn

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Well then

stoic island
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Gt710 is near useless other than displaying images imo

little osprey
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Can you get keyboard and mouse for console?

stoic island
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People will get mad at you but yes

topaz kestrel
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In the USB ports

little osprey
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Oh

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Nice

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Thanks guys for the advice

topaz kestrel
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People will hate you though xd

little osprey
topaz kestrel
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Maybe

little osprey
sharp temple
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Almost all gpus are compatible with most motherboards

fossil cedar
little osprey
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ok, thanks!

fossil cedar
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Np

verbal quarry
strong raft
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@little osprey ok a pretty neat window/rgb setup

errant fiber
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how can i make this cleaner

clever nova
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i dont see any arrows for the 12th gen? intel

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on the mobo

strong raft
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Yes, issa joke. Gpu cables are tough though.

desert gulch
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Just get Bluetooth pcie power cables

mossy venture
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when not used to high end gaming its surprisingly decent gameplay

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and that was cpu limited too

strong raft
desert gulch
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The card itself couldn't draw that from the port

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They need that supplemental cable for now

earnest olive
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don't worry

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I'm sure the 5090ti will come with its own wall plug

carmine mural
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Question, is a Cooler Master M240L 240mm version 1 AIO enough to cool a Intel I7-10700K?

I will find someone who isn't playing with my emotions ;~;

strong raft
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I mean w/ supplemental gpu power port on mobo, could a gpu take 150w thru the slot, or not optimal/possible? I know cable-less GPUs aren't a big deal though

earnest olive
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for rendering maybe

carmine mural
earnest olive
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I managed to push a 10700K to 101C all core on a 360mm aio running prime95 lol

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1.35V

carmine mural
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Well.mine is a lemon then

earnest olive
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but for gaming it's more than enough

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and rendering should be ok though I'd still recommend 360 for it

carmine mural
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Thank you, so it is worth going throuvh the rma process to get another one

earnest olive
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did it die or something

carmine mural
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DOA

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One second I'll message you the entire story if you want

earnest olive
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yeah I mean if it works it's a good enough cooler

carmine mural
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You won't believe the temps I'm getting, at BIOs idling it was bringing in a wopping 45-55C, in windows upon start up jumping to 90-96C dropping back down to 60-80C, and during stress testing it was hitting 96C average with like three cores at 100C.

I figured it was the pump not moving the water when I saw the average water temp staying below 45-50 and slowly climbing to the temp of the CPU, which told me it was just gradually heating the water up, like a stove eye.

The pump doesn't have any singular indicator of it running, all I get is Pump RPM, but that sits at 1200-1600, I could set all fans to 100% and it makes no difference on the CPU core temperature.

I and both a professional PC builder both unmounted and applied thermal paste and still found it was overheating drastically. I've done both the X method and what he did which was the butter spread method. Still no difference in CPU temps.

The only thing I have to think of whats happening is the dual chamber is keeping the hot water ontop of the CPU and not cycling it out, causing it to overheat.

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So I have a lemon that is terrible at cooling the computer and I needed to know if I was to get a new one that worked (hopefully) that it would do the job, instead of getting one that was insuffecient in cooling down these chipsets IE wasting more time and resources into something that wouldn't even work if I did get one that is working.

strong raft
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Sounds like the pump itself is the main/only issue actually, but I know little about LC.

mossy venture
strong raft
carmine mural
strong raft
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Aio, but can the pump easily come off and be replaced by itself? I wonder what the rma would require

carmine mural
carmine mural
strong raft
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Gotcha. Oh, unlike when the cpu mount/waterblock is the pump too. Interesting. Would be a good time to have a spare hsf to swap on or somethin, darn

carmine mural
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ well thank yah gentlemen

strong raft
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We try. The biggest thing I like about aio is honestly much less weight on the mobo. Hsf are heavy

little osprey
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@strong raft Thanks. We tried to duplicate the PCMR Case look

strong raft
strong raft
little osprey
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It was never an air flow front panel anyway. Plus the XL cools very well

strong raft
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Indeed, found the LL 011 or such is LC based as well. Apparently I don't need to fret over mobo airfow much.

marble dune
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Thoughts on the Noctua NH-D15 intead of an aio

wintry tide
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Enermax Revolution DF 850W - 80 PLUS Gold Certified PSU, Full-Modular Power Supply, 135mm Silent Fan, Black Flat Cable, ATX Compact 160mm Size, 7 Year Warranty https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P7XLVJG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_TMP5RHWR58P0KKM1Z7T5 this one good guys?

mossy venture
marble dune
mossy venture
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how much are you paying for it

mossy venture
marble dune
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Im not paying someone was talking about getting an aio and I was like get a noctua their pretty nice

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its like 100

mossy venture
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youre not buying the 3800x?

marble dune
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no my friend was talking about getting an aio

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for his 3800x

mossy venture
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ahh

marble dune
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I told him to get a vetroo v5 cooler

mossy venture
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the 3800x tends to get fairly hot, but i dont think as hot as 5000 series

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i think that would be fine, iirc its one that pato suggests

marble dune
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but he wants that luxury stuff yk

mossy venture
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would be fine with a 240mm too

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artic freezer ii

jagged nest
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Ok so I just finished building my pc and it turns on all fans are on all lights are on everything is flowing good. But when I try to connect my pc to my monitor the monitor doesn’t detect and signal

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Anyone know what to do

obsidian wigeon
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And what cpu and gpu do you have

jagged nest
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Ok cpu I have 12 th gen i5 gpu is a 2080 super (reused my prebuilts gpu) and I plugged my monitor into my gpu and used both hdmi and display port

fossil cedar
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Try clear cmos

obsidian wigeon
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^

jagged nest
fossil cedar
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It's your bios settings but there's a guide on how to do

jagged nest
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Ok

fossil cedar
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If that doesn't work try reseat your ram

flint sapphire
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Might also just have a diagnosis light on somewhere 👀

fossil cedar
flint sapphire
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Guess the cmos worked tho

strong raft
obsidian wigeon
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wait no

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wrong link

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There we go

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also yeah i meant 140 but whatever

strong raft
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Yep, $47 right now w/ that checkout coupon. That's the bang for buck. I like the lighter/cheaper 120mm Peerless Assassin, but it's probably not best for those hotter cpu's. 🤘

obsidian wigeon
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peerless does well with intel

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the frost spirit is best for ryzen

strong raft
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Some of these $50ish hsf's are a great deal considering good single towers used to be similar price. Of course, pretty neat that certain aio's are also not crazy expensive anymore.

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
strong raft
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I sure wouldn't. Water + PC = no good.

hard badge
strong raft
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Ah that's right. Sure is interesting seeing PC's inside the tanks of some sort of liquid/oil.

wintry tide
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considering between the Gigabyte Z690 AERO G and z690-P

wintry tide
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this one also another build from me

fossil cedar
wintry tide
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which one is better? 12900K or 12900KF?

wintry tide
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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also you need more than 4 fans in an o11d really

obsidian wigeon
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If it's possible

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Gettin some p12 a-rgb white ones would save some money

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Not some, good chunk of it

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Not sure if they're on sale rn tho, just got announced lately

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
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News literally came today

fossil cedar
elder citrus
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Hey just wondering if a 3060ti for 550 is a good deal right now? also its from a guy on twitter, sound legit??

obsidian wigeon
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Best to meet in person

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The price is not too bad but sus seeing that it's coming from twitter

elder citrus
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yeah kinda what i was thinking he also started his price at 700 then dropped it to 550 when i said i dont have 700 in the budget for a card

fossil cedar
strong raft
fossil cedar
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of the founders edition sure but like

strong raft
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They're like CA gas prices pretty much, lul. Oh well. Pay to play.

wintry tide
wintry tide
fossil cedar
wintry tide
fossil cedar
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Fair enough

wintry tide
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there's no white mobo to match with the 12700K atm @fossil cedar

wintry tide
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I saw the z690 asus prime but i don't like the aesthetic of it tbh

wintry tide
fossil cedar
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Close enough lol

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It looks pretty white

wintry tide
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i really like the z690-a

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but fck i don't wanna purchase for 500$

stoic island
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I like unify, but that doesn't mean I'll pay 400$ for it, just get smth else :p

fossil cedar
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It's a high end msi board

wintry tide
stoic island
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very cool board

fossil cedar
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Kraken is meh and overpriced also black in white build okay but silver not eeeee

stoic island
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unify is literally and figuratively cool, overkill vrms and heatsink xD

fossil cedar
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Lol

stoic island
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and yea z73 overpriced as heck

wintry tide
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still debating bcuz with the z73 i can put an anime waifu on it :p

stoic island
#

or put on a figure for 20$

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much cheaper than like 150$ price hike

fossil cedar
#

lian li gives you a thing to dangle stuff on the aio pump, sips literally has a waifu dangling on the pump xD

stoic island
#

yea lol

stoic island
stoic island
#

that do be paimon

strong raft
#

Gpu power cable is too crooked

wintry tide
fossil cedar
wintry tide
fossil cedar
wintry tide
#

you think I should get a black build instead?

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@fossil cedar 🤧 i can sell the white ones tho

fossil cedar
wintry tide
stable tinsel
#

So I have an asus b350 prime plus but I was wondering if it would support rip jaw 16gb ddr4 at 3200mhz but some people say it won't run at that speed even if overclockee

stable tinsel
#

Ryzen 5 2600 and the bios is already updated so that it will support

fossil cedar
stable tinsel
#

@fossil cedar G.SKILL Ripjaws 16gb ddr4 3200

fossil cedar
stable tinsel
#

Not at all but when I overclock in bios and I leave it I'm worried if the ram frequency will cause the screen to black out

stoic island
#

when in doubt, clear cmos

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

that's all you need to do if it crashes

fossil cedar
#

that too ^

stable tinsel
#

@Pato thanks

wintry tide
#

can u recommend me some good black z690 mobo? @fossil cedar

#

@stoic island

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my budget for mobo is around 300-400$

stoic island
#

unify

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oh wait that's 500$ what

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thought it was 400

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nvm

fossil cedar
stable tinsel
#

@fossil cedar and also 1 last question so I plug in my rgb fans to the rgb header turn on the pc but the fans won't light up

wintry tide
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
stable tinsel
#

Oh

wintry tide
fossil cedar
#

ye

tough beacon
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Aye does anyone know why my PC isn't booting up on the first ram slot?

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only boot up when I put a ram in the second slot?

fossil cedar
tough beacon
#

A 1 and B1

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A1 and b1*

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mobo is a ASRock B450M HDV r4.0

fossil cedar
#

try clear cmos after putting ram in your first slot

tough beacon
#

Tried both of my ram at the 2nd slot

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they both work

fossil cedar
#

if not then its probs bad slot

tough beacon
#

so should i like..

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remove the CMOS

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then install both of the ram

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then put back the battery?

fossil cedar
#

put the ram in, then clear cmos, you can either do the battery method which involves removing the battery and unplugging the pc from the wall for about 3 mins or shorting the 2 clear cmos pins on your board

tough beacon
#

Alright, I'll try doing that.

desert gulch
#

I've seen it happen before

fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

Not really

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Sometimes if a surge or something happens and damages it, it can have just one part of it not working properly

fossil cedar
#

fair

desert gulch
#

Could be the dimm slots themselves but I'd say imc is just as likely depending on their circumstances

tough beacon
#

Ok,

#

tried and nothing

#

Most likely a somewhat dead motherboard.

#

Probably gonna have to get a replacement tbh,

#

Does anyone know a good motherboard on sale?

fossil cedar
tough beacon
#

so idk about that one

fossil cedar
tough beacon
#

Alright,

#

I'll check their warranties.

#

Ah It's only a year..

fossil cedar
tough beacon
#

AMD ryzen 5 2400g

#

I could've gone better but I am on a budget.

fossil cedar
tough beacon
#

Yup,

tough beacon
#

hm 60$ on amazon..

jagged ember
#

oh nice

#

nice budget board

tough beacon
#

Oh is it possible that if you overtighten your screws you can short out your first ram slot correct?

fossil cedar
#

Uh no

tough beacon
#

Ok, just want to be sure.

fossil cedar
#

You'd need to short something to mess with your ram slot

tough beacon
#

Alright,

earnest olive
#

your ram slot has screws?

#

what

fossil cedar
vapid igloo
#

I am struggling to get my fans to spin

#

Could someone help me out?

fossil cedar
vapid igloo
#

This one?

fossil cedar
#

Can't tell with it connected

#

Could be a 3 pin one instead

vapid igloo
fossil cedar
vapid igloo
#

Where do I connect it on the MOBO?

fossil cedar
#

Should say chasis_fan or case-fan or something

vapid igloo
#

What about sys_fan?

viral ore
#

yeah any fan header is fine

vapid igloo
#

Even if the sys_fan header has 4 pins?

#

Because the cable has 3 holes

#

@viral ore

analog hearth
#

yeah that's fine

#

I forgot what it means but I think it's just for sensing

fossil cedar
#

Ye it's fine

strong raft
#

4 pin headers just usually allow pwm or something so fans can be set to adjust speed by temps or have a custom fan curve. I also have 3pin fans on a bunch of 4 pin mobo headers. 👍

uneven sapphire
#

anyone build a 12700k with MSI z690 pro-A motherboard?

visual sun
#

How do i deal with this

#

It wont go farther cause silver peice

strong raft
#

I'd remove mobo completely, maybe remove io shield, then install both. Sometimes io shield acts up mainly. A lil bit of force to line up holes might be required anyways

visual sun
#

How?

#

Its rivoted on not screws

strong raft
#

Oh, integrated io shield i see.

visual sun
#

The silver part is bigger than the opening by a bit i think

#

Yah its part of the board

#

Well its held on by the screws that hold the box thing its on on i think

strong raft
#

That case opening is usually a standard shape/size. Is a mobo standoff in wrong spot or just a few mm from not letting a screw through?

visual sun
#

Yah

#

Just a few off on top

#

Because board cant slide in fully

#

Because of io sheild lip

strong raft
#

Ok i looked at pic again. I'd try to push mobo edge harder and if it lines up enough, then get at least 1 screw in

visual sun
#

Ok

#

Any other tips before i put the board in? Trying to finish it today

strong raft
#

Could start w/ a screw or 2 in opposite corner then it's like youre just rotating a bit instead of trying to slide it completely in

visual sun
#

My first build

strong raft
#

Rear case fan before cpu hsf is what I just thought of. Been years since I did more than a new gpu/ram/ssd, that's the ez stuff usually.

visual sun
#

Cpu is water cooled

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Ok

#

Gona need advice on wireing in a bit

#

Umm is this the motherboard screws

limber solstice
#

can someone help me with a build for my friend he's spending like 3k on the whole setup

#

can i get a list bc my brain too tiny to make one

visual sun
#

I can only find 6

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Nvm they dont fit

limber solstice
#

oof

strong raft
visual sun
#

Found these

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9

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Have more than 9 of these type

strong raft
#

I prefer the hex, but if those phillips work, "then they work". I have a mix of screws in my pc actually. Threads are important not the head of course.

visual sun
#

Ok

strong raft
strong raft
strong raft
# visual sun Ok

I was gonna say try various screws in the standoffs* to see which ones match perfectly. Good to have em all set aside before hand.

visual sun
#

Shouldn't i mount another fan here to have more intake then exhaust?

strong raft
#

Above the rad or on side? Yeah, 1 more i front dossnt hurt. Generally want plenty of intake for positive air pressure

#

My bad, not on rad. I just meant a 3rd in the front if possible, yep. 1 outtake by the mobo io wouldn't hurt also.

#

Edited

visual sun
#

I only have a mounting point where it is sitting

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Would draw air from the powersuply

strong raft
#

Nah i wouldn't bother w/ that spot

visual sun
#

Rn without the 5th it has the radiator and the 2 intakes

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And the powersuply

#

So just a 3rd exhaust?

strong raft
#

Yeah, some cases have 3 intake right on the front so this is a lil different. Many people don't even use a rear/top exhaust I've noticed. Would be neat if we could easily stand a fan on the psu shield inbetween intake & the GPU if that makes sense.

visual sun
#

Might be able to but i don't think so

strong raft
#

No biggie on that thought. More exhaust than intake supposedly pulls in more dust than otherwise, but idk.
-- 2 intake 2 exhaust like that is more than decent

visual sun
#

Thermal past the cooler on?

#

Its 2 and 3

#

Power supply is kinda a intake tho

strong raft
#

Psu doesn't really effect case airflow how its shielded and such. -- is there a hole back top corner for mobo power to come through?

#

Oh hang on I can actually show my crazy wiring and my setup.

visual sun
#

Im just realizeing because the front 2 came from the radiator the dont have wire really... And i dont think i have one

#

I dont

strong raft
#

I know this might be tricky or impossible. Oh, sideways pic too

visual sun
#

I swapped them for 15mm cause space...

#

I have this

strong raft
#

Oh, stock rad fans were thicker I guess. I can't tell if mobo power cable can go up the back and fit passed the rad+fans or not.

visual sun
#

Which wire this one?

strong raft
#

Oh yeah, CPU. That's what I meant. Not the 24pin, which obviously goes around the front-side somewhere

visual sun
#

Solid 8 into board or split 2 4

strong raft
#

Uh usually the solid 8 into psu, because some mobos (CPU) have just 4 pin even though it's rare nowadays.

visual sun
#

Ok 8 fits its one socket so in it goes

strong raft
#

PSU should have labels on it also for certain cables

#

Excuse dust, lol.

visual sun
#

Ummmm

strong raft
#

bingo

visual sun
#

Do i need to use this?

#

The connector dosent fit

strong raft
#

rotate it, does 1 side of the connector on 1 end say vga or somethin? Mine do at least, I have an evga psu too

visual sun
#

Do i snap the clips?

strong raft
#

yep. push

visual sun
#

Ohh wait other side is smaller

#

F...

#

How to get it out

strong raft
#

pliers or a flat screwdriver to hold the tab maybe. Part of why I always did a HSF tbh.

visual sun
#

Ok fixed

#

Next?

strong raft
#

psu screwed in?

visual sun
#

Took it out

strong raft
#

modular is so nice for that.

visual sun
#

Yah

#

Mb to big pins on mb?

strong raft
#

yep, 24pin

visual sun
#

Should i do the card?

#

Id like to do it last

strong raft
#

That's fine. mobo cable is always awkward. They don't bend easy. PLus, they need to go straight forward instead of stick out like they do. GPU? Yeah, I'd say last because they take up a lot of room and dont want to bump em

visual sun
#

What next?

strong raft
#

ssd?

visual sun
#

From my screen less laptop

#

This right?

strong raft
#

yep, looks like a sata data cable. also need power. The label on PSU might say perif and sata power looks like tha data cable but the connector is a bit "wider" & is only for sata stuff specificially.

clever nova
#

So I need 3 of these for a 3080? If so damn lol

visual sun
static ravine
strong raft
#

haha, I wouldn't know w/ my peasant gpu that's only 6+8pin lol.

clever nova
static ravine
strong raft
#

^

static ravine
#

Yeah yeah it might be a pain to reroute cables but I'd rather have the performance gain of a 3080 rather than have my computer do nothing for a few days

strong raft
#

and yes that last pic is for sata ssd/hdd. In the future you'll probably get an m.2 nvme drive that just goes on the mobo w/ no wires, they're pretty neat.

visual sun
#

Yah i want to but card ate those funds

strong raft
#

LuL, big-big toe like me

visual sun
#

Lol

strong raft
#

I know, those dang cable kits are like $30 or something

#

well I've seen people used to custom sleeve their power cables. oh man the time that would take. ---which PSU by the way. Just a G+ 650 currently and a G3 (got crazy cheap) as backup. Antec isn't my go to w/ all the options nowadays.

visual sun
#

Ok ssd to ssd 1

#

Where does it go on mb

clever nova
#

Do I need both cpu eps cables plugged in?

visual sun
strong raft
# visual sun

sata connector on mobo is on front edge in front of that big heatsink. There's a white label or somethin on 1 of em. That's them. Use 1 of top 2 ports 1st I'd say.

clever nova
#

I have the msi 850 dgf

strong raft
#

Yeah no matter though. -- My bad, meant heatwave. I get missed up w/ a bunch of comments and similar green names.

strong raft
visual sun
#

Np

#

Thanks for helping

merry fog
#

can anyone give me a part list?

#

64gb ram
3070ti
at leasst i7 10th gen
nvme ssd 1tb X2
Rgb
budget 3000

#

Australian dolaars

visual sun
#

My part list but 4 not 2 16 ram

strong raft
# visual sun Thanks for helping

Sure. I'm not sure about the SSD and OS installation because I normally start w/ a fresh empty drive, then no drivers or w/e or worry about being wonky.

visual sun
#

Mine is 2222usd roughly

pale dust
#

jeez

#

wait

#

64gb ram mightve done it

#

my 5600x 3070 build was 1300

visual sun
#

I have. A monitor included in mine

pale dust
#

ohh

#

mine is about 1500 then

merry fog
#

can i have part list?

pale dust
#

but it was during black friday so things cost more now

#

and 2020 at that

merry fog
#

i seee

#

thanks

#

do you think things will get cheaper on boxing day?

#

like day after christmas

pale dust
#

theres mine

#

idk this black friday seemed pretty lack luster

merry fog
#

thanks

strong raft
#

$600 for that 3070 actually seemed fairly decent. 👍 That's what you paid?

merry fog
#

do u have anyy pics of it irl?

pale dust
#

only time bestbuy ever dropped on a friday

#

the pc?

#

or the graphics card

merry fog
#

the pc

visual sun
strong raft
#

You just got that on black friday? SCORE

clever nova
#

does this mb use msi mystic light sync?

#

my ram isnt lighting up

visual sun
#

Slim fans are required and ssd not included

clever nova
#

ok nvm it does saw it in the manual

visual sun
#

Slim fans needed to swap for radiator stock ones or it wont fit

clever nova
#

wonder why my ram didnt light uyp

strong raft
hardy venture
#

I have a question, I kinda screwed up and my motherboard doesn't have a DP. The only benefit to DP to my knowledge is variable refresh rate. Is VRR worth a return and hunt for a new motherboard?

visual sun
#

Yah i heard somewhere never skimp on psu

strong raft
strong raft
pale dust
#

hmm i can get a picture but all of the rgb is off

visual sun
#

Ok so where do these go

pale dust
#

those are

#

audio headers

#

i dont recognize the blue one

#

oh and one is a usb header

#

do you have a td 500 by any chance

#

those connectors look similar

visual sun
#

Come from here

pale dust
#

in your motherboard manual

strong raft
pale dust
#

there should be a

#

a front panel audio header

strong raft
#

On mobo it's along bottom or near it and front usb stuff it's generally "F-usb" on mobo

hardy venture
pale dust
#

for me it was in the bottom left

strong raft
#

Yeah look at my pic, 99% of mobos are like that, then there's extra ports ahead frontwards

visual sun
#

Found 1

pale dust
#

ah

#

yeah thats one

strong raft
pale dust
#

on mine the hd audio connector went in a port called

#

aafp

tough beacon
#

had to bend them back in the orginal spot.

#

which was a pain*

strong raft
#

Mine says F-Audio actually, how simple haha. It's the power/restart sort of buttons that are sketchy because they're skinny and individual. You'll get what I mean when you find em

visual sun
#

Thats in right?

tough beacon
#

Looks fully in.

strong raft
#

I noticed how the besides case, all that stuff showed up on same day. That'd be awesome.

visual sun
#

Reg usb go to jusb1?

#

Hd aud go to jaud 1?

strong raft
#

yep. if your front ports are usb 3 then use usb 2 or usb3 header if there is one. My mobo is old enough it has some stuff labeled usb1.1 which obviously I avoid.

#

I mean on yours usb1 just means it's the 1st of those 2 headers, but supports usb3 speed perhaps, if that makes sense. --JAUD1 indeed looks like the only spot for the front audio stuff

#

edited*

visual sun
#

Right general area?

strong raft
#

yep

visual sun
#

K

strong raft
#

bunch of that you probably won't use. JRGB1 is of course for rgb something. idk what JF1, JCI1 is. SYS_FAN 4, 5, w/e is of course for case fans. 4 pin Fan headers allow pwm w/ 4 pin fans, meaning bios can adjust fans by load instead of being full speed.

visual sun
#

Ok

strong raft
#

to the right something said JFP1, might be for a front panel connector of some sort. Remember I'm just used to Gigabyte mobos and stuff varies.

visual sun
#

These?

#

Lol flash killed it xd cant read them

strong raft
#

1 sec

visual sun
strong raft
#

not labeled on my mobo at all, so idk how i got em right. port/header seems color coded a bit though

#

On mine for example, power switch or reset switch is 2 wires and 1 is posi 1 is neg. Bet I had to try em a few times to get right.

visual sun
#

Ok

strong raft
#

I like your cable though. That one seems mostly lined em and should make it easier to hook em up. Oh, that page helps a lot. lol

visual sun
#

Yah

strong raft
#

I was thinking they went here, but manuals help sometimes. HDD LED seems so unneeded nowadays huh. I don't even need a power button myself, mobo has one.

visual sun
#

Thats where mine says

strong raft
#

Too bad those can't be in 1 nice connector and identical on every mobo, but no big deal.

visual sun
#

Ok think thats right

#

So put cpu cooler on now?

#

Or fans?

#

Cpu c has radiator fans on it

#

Assuming its the pump aswell if it has one idk how it works

strong raft
# visual sun

either goes to the "cpu_fan" header or one labeled pump-fan or something like that.

visual sun
#

Pump?

strong raft
#

I'm thinking so because that is basically the pump cable? is there a booklet or something to double check. haven't tried an aio or LC yet myself.

visual sun
#

No book for radiator that i can find

strong raft
clever nova
#

Will a 3080 break without a bracket to hold it?

#

This thing is massive will the sagging mess it up?

strong raft
#

Nah, just pcb might bend a bit over time. Doesn't hurt to have a small piece of thin* plywood or something propped under the front corner. That's what I do just to be safe. rear bracket holds most of it decent.

visual sun
#

Im gonna thermal paste the cpu cooler

clever nova
#

Can I just order a sag bracket for now and leave it for now?

strong raft
plush wigeon
visual sun
strong raft
#

Might be plenty. Many people do like a big pea or BB-sized dot. I used to use my finger or credit card in a plastic bag to just do a thin cover. Felt like I trusted that more than wondering if it was squeezed out enough. ball of cookie dough smooshed makes a circle not a square, that's also my thinking.

visual sun
#

Ok

plush wigeon
#

Just don't go the route The Verge took

visual sun
#

This way?

errant fiber
#

nice arctic

visual sun
#

Thanks

errant fiber
#

i'm gonna buy one soon

visual sun
#

Is it right way the block part?

strong raft
#

Whatcha think sudo? we're almost there.

visual sun
#

I needed 15mm thick fans for it to fit

errant fiber
#

update me

strong raft
#

His placement. I dont know much about LC

visual sun
#

Does it matter what way up cooling block is?

errant fiber
#

everyone mounts it differently from what i'm seeing here

visual sun
#

Ok

strong raft
#

Pato I think showed a pic 1 time of various placements but I do think top rad is better than front at least.

visual sun
#

It comes pre filled right?

strong raft
#

Is that's a normal AIO, it should. That's part of the big thing about them, and basically self-contained so no mess no fuss, just toss or change it some day.

visual sun
#

Ok good

#

And this here

strong raft
#

Yeah, that to pump header probably, not the 1 labeled simply cpu-fan

visual sun
#

K

#

Should i use cpu fan for 3 pin exhaust fan?

strong raft
#

could, if no sys_fan header in reach on left/bottom of mobo somewhere. Actually yes it's no issue. You'll just see rpm's in bios and remember what's what

visual sun
#

It is im just wondering whats best

#

Ok

strong raft
#

3 pin fan doesn't have pwm or voltage adjustment (w/o a LV dongle) so any header will do. Other words, full speed 24/7 (fine depending on fan). 👍

visual sun
#

Ok so since i dont have where would this go?

#

Umm i ment since i dont have the front fan cables where does this go

obsidian wigeon
obsidian wigeon
#

Like for beeps and such

#

It's purely optional

#

But you can connect it to pc speaker headed

visual sun
#

Cant find sh

strong raft
#

Uh, it might get annoying.. btw , that's german

visual sun
#

Fp2

#

?

#

Ik i relized that

#

Lol

strong raft
#

Do'nt mess w/ my Ubersicht!

visual sun
#

Lables are same tho

obsidian wigeon
#

fp2? nah

visual sun
#

Aparently this is one so i moved it

strong raft
#

ok, but pretty sure that dumb bios speaker isn't all that helpful. Is there a 2digit LED thing on the mobo anyone? They usually flash numbers or letters. THat's what's used to diagnos boot problems or somethin.

obsidian wigeon
#

Mobos these days has leds

#

ya

visual sun
strong raft
#

My z77 does... Wait, you moved the sata cable. those 6 ports are just sata data.

visual sun
#

Isn't it used as a dust alarm?

#

Shouldn't it be in sata 1?

strong raft
#

Might not matter if all of em are Sata 3 speed. Example, mine are labeled 0-5 actually. top 2 are Sata 3 (600Mbps or w/e) and the lower 4 ports are Sata 2 speed.

visual sun
#

Separate questions

strong raft
#

idk what dust alarm you mean.

visual sun
#

Oh

#

The speeker

strong raft
strong raft
visual sun
#

A old desktop i have got dusty and wouldn't shut up till i cleaned it. Sounded like fire alarm

#

Ok

strong raft
#

oh, yikes. Sounds like dial up or Windows 98/2000 days, and I only used those a bit because of my dad. AMD was ATI and they had their neat All-In-Wonder gpu's, hook up to cable to watch/record stuff to the pc.

visual sun
#

Should i get the v card now?

strong raft
#

Seems like time. Foxy?

visual sun
#

650 should be more than fine right?

#

W psu

strong raft
#

oh yeah, plenty for that one. Doubt the 3060 goes much over 200W alone, maybe 250W absolute max.

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

#

that does fine

visual sun
#

Lol it smells like oranges in a good way

wintry tide
#
clever nova
#

hey guys just plugged in pc all the lights/fans turn on and gpu. But nothing shows up on monitor any idea on how i should start to debug.

visual sun
#

Sooo fans down?

desert gulch
wintry tide
obsidian wigeon
wintry tide
#

or should I get the enermax

obsidian wigeon
#

enermax, ew

strong raft
wintry tide
#

lol

obsidian wigeon
#

oh wait

desert gulch
#

revo df, rmx, msi agf

obsidian wigeon
#

nvm

wintry tide
#

enermax d.f

desert gulch
#

all on the same platform

obsidian wigeon
#

i forgot

#

lmao

desert gulch
#

basically all the same psu

#

cwt

clever nova
wintry tide
#

so enermax d.f vs corsair 850w

#

which one is better?

obsidian wigeon
#

like which

#

on the gpu or mobo

clever nova
#

on the gpu

#

oh

obsidian wigeon
#

hm

clever nova
#

guess i shuold do mobo?

obsidian wigeon
#

is there any led lit on the mobo?

#

like debug led

#

no

clever nova
#

yes the ram one

obsidian wigeon
#

you're doing it right

clever nova
#

just noticed that

obsidian wigeon
#

well then try booting with one stick

desert gulch
clever nova
#

the ram is not being detected

desert gulch
#

lil better case support

#

but thats whatever

obsidian wigeon
#

ram could be faulty

wintry tide
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i have a lian li XL

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i think corsair would be a better fit

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i guess

desert gulch
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or wait no the agf is the one with meh case support i think

clever nova
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i had 4 in there

desert gulch
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or wait no the revo df is the one with it

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i remembered

obsidian wigeon
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you got two dual kits?

desert gulch
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corsair one may have a lil better fan too but the differences are p small

obsidian wigeon
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it has a chance to not work

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cause it's not tested that way

wintry tide
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corsair is cheaper tho

clever nova
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yea i got 2 dual kits

strong raft
obsidian wigeon
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well

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that's likely the problem here

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yep

desert gulch
obsidian wigeon
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try booting with one kit

strong raft
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Hehehe

clever nova
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ok thannks

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nothing i can do to make it work?

strong raft
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did it boot w/ only 2 stick in before? Maybe just 1 stick or 1 whole kit is wonky

obsidian wigeon
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if it doesn't work it won't

visual sun
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Tis in

obsidian wigeon
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nice

desert gulch
strong raft
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RAM is 1 of the things that if it's dead it's dead and gotta RMA or somethin. Rare, but it happens.

desert gulch
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add the $60 coupon and its $90

wintry tide
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wow

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so cheap

strong raft
strong raft
# clever nova ok thannks

I just realized, you've checked bios already? Perhaps it'll show ram that are good and then can tell which might be bad. Also shutdown & try just reseating all the memory

stark comet
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hey guys, i just got my MOBO and CPU in the mail!!!

Im upgrading from a B450 to a B550. What are the best practices when upgrading? Do I need to reinstall windows?

desert gulch
wintry tide
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desert gulch
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not better but still good

strong raft
wintry tide
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like similar?

desert gulch
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yeah

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theyre both A tier single rail units

stark comet
clever nova
desert gulch
strong raft
stark comet
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no worries man! ill hop on the windows sub

desert gulch
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aight

visual sun