#building-and-recc-chat
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Check to make sure everything is fully plugged in
If so try putting the old cpu cooler on and seeing if it would boot that way
Alright
I unplugged some random fan header which i dont even know what it was for and suddenly it works fine…
Well there you go
All my fans are still spinning
Ig the header may be broken and its causing the mobo to malfunction
Most likely its just for rgb
It was a normal fan connector though
Oh i didnt fix it…
I had to reboot and its doing the same thing again
I guess your last option would be to do a fresh windows install
But try troubleshooting some more
Could the pump fans being in the wrong slot potentially screw it up?
Not likely because i dont see how the fans would affect the system booting
But ig try another slot
Alright
Or what could possibly be the case is your cpu may have shifted when installing the aio and might not fully or correctly be in the socket
Alright
I might just wait till the weekend honestly to mess with it as im getting a new motherboard then
Fan/pump header could be causing a short or soemthin.
Okay… a hard drive had chosen the worst time to die
Thats why
Okay not only is it dead but its the one with actual important stuff on it…
do you have backups?
Nope the one thing i cared about was photos and this was the backup…
Okay i was wrong that drive didnt have important things on it
My smaller drive is the one with important things
good
rip main drive though, was it an nvme drive?
also for data security I save my important files in 2 separate drives and in 1 offsite location
not exactly up to the 321 backup scheme, but close enough that I don't think it'll be a problem
It was a 2TB HDD
oof
i'd go with a new nvme drive this time around if your mobo has the port for it
as your boot drive, i mean
booting and other tasks will feel so much faster
Is this any good wasn't going you buy it unless it was good with a good price
it's a tier a single rail
it's good
just double check prices from other retailers to be sure that's actually a good deal lol
Single 12v gpu rail you mean? Funny how common that is though. Does seem like a great price for 80+ plat
yeah, seems like a good price for plat
I'd almost buy it if I didn't have a new 650w G+ as backup/future psu (was $60)
I'd buy it if I didn't already have a psu
hmm but as a backup it sounds like a good idea
$15 card is from seasonic specifically, so might be 5+ yrs before you actually use that, lol.
The price is fine but there's better if you don't need 80+ plat
normal for this much ram to be eaten up with 4 chrome tabs open, discord and spotify? ik windows eats some ram but im not sure how much
Looks fine yeah especially with a few extensions for chrome
alright thanks pato XD wanted to make sure i was all good
I have a 1TB NVMe boot drive the 2TB HDD was for mass game storage
Also now my motherboard/CPU debug light is on and my PC wont boot…
hey guys im trying to build a PC and my budget is 2k$ what should i get?
you plan on getting a card for msrp or scalped?
Try clear CMOS
Prebuilt or build yourself? For what use?
i tried turning off the PSU and now suddenly its working again
i had done that 3 times prior
build myself and its for gaming and streaming
If you've seen peerless assassin 120, it's that but better 140mm instead of 120mm and performs better on amd, i assume because better contact
Normally plat is $$$ that's why
But if Plat is only $20 more then gold that's not a bad deal
Probably around 4gb for windows 10
Does anyone know a good GPU
I need a computer case
Any recommendations?
I want something that has good airflow and looks epic
ARGB too
And fans obviously
Sure
Nvm
Nvm
Mb
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No, just no
@vapid igloo Take a look at the Corsair 4000D airflow, Lancool II Mesh, or P500A

anti-corsair coalition
Yeah yeah yeah suuuuure
Okay so if you’re anti Corsair what do you think of this?
Corsair>NZXT
Muahahaha
…goddamnit
ahahaha
would you guys rather take a 3080 strix at msrp 1179 or a 3080 ti fe at msrp 1199?
3080ti
thanks
having some trouble finding a prebuilt pc; any recommendations for a $1700 budget?
ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3060 Ti or EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 ULTRA?
4k = 3070, 1440P = 3060 Ti perhaps. Depending on price, I might say 3070, res regardless.
4k on a 3070 is not gonna be fun without dlss



I bought a case with two fans in it and I have a 240 rad and an extra fan. Should I put all 3 single fans to the front and the rad on top for exhaust? Or 2 in the front 1 in back and rad on top?
3 fans in front, rad top
positive pressure = less dust build up
then you can aquire another fan and put it in the back later
Plat isn't worth it to most people tho because unless you have pretty high elec costs its just too much extra
^
..
?
Idk
Yo, does anyone know when Newegg restocks on open box PCs
They don't restock it, open box means someone returned it
So whenever someone returns one open box
Wat
Zaddy 😩
If someone returns it and it’s partial broken new egg fixes it right?
Yes
But open box usually means returns like, people not wanting it anymore
So it's pretty much brand new
Yeah only thing you can run into is cables and that type of small stuff potentially not there
But for such a cheaper price, even if you have to buy a couple cables, it's still way worth usually
I'm an environment artist for AAA video games an I'm currently looking into purchasing a PC through newegg. Trying to keep the cost around 3k. I game sometimes, but not this will mostly be used for zbrush, unreal engine 4, and photoshop.
This is what im thinking about purchasing:
and fit the Prism II with these:
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Is there something better I should look into?
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How can I determine if a desktop can be legally shipped to Washington state? I know there are new regulations, but I have no idea where to find out what i can and cannot order. This would be super helpful. Can I order the Prism II (Desktop in link) for example?
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Do you know if these two linked products are compatible? How do I find out?
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I realize it only has 1TB of storage. I have a gigantic external already and have an SSD to spare. I also just like the all glass case.
Any and all help or pointers would be greatly appreciated!
depends on whether or not the 3080 strix is LHR or not
if it's non-LHR you could turn around and trade it for a 3080ti FE + cash lol
Honestly I’ve heard some bad reviews on sky tech but if you really wanted it go ahead
Skytech is bad, aim for abs instead
Yeah the price is a bit of an Oof for what it is
the price is actually quite reasonable here
Tbh if they wanted those specs go for an abs and buy the case alone lol
The price is aside from their build quality
Price is reasonable but I trust newegg's stuff more
They gave me a 500w white instead of a 600w gold it was supposed to have, a mobo that died after 3 months, a case and fans that were oem and only worked with that mobo (idefk how on the fans)
And a heatsink worse than a stock cooler that my 3600 hit 90c on
think i'd rather have the 5800x than an 11900K for productivity
well thats a 360 aio in the picture
the skytech one also has a gen 4 ssd
as for build quality that's a toss up
the power supply on the skytech is only listed as "850W"
Sips they sent me the wrong psu and wouldn't send me a new one
That sums up their entire build quality
could absolutely be a complete piece of crap or could be a decent unit
all i know is that gamers nexus favorably reviewed high end skytech as "one of the best"
also favorably reviewed ABS
I saw the video too it was rather epic
but ABS's $2800 option here doesn't look as good to me
if this guy decides he needs more cpu cores the x570 board has room for more
the ABS build is going to be a dead end need new mobo
and we all know about 11900K efficiency in productivity tasks
i dont render out anything via batching*
and all of the software i use renders to GPU
i know photoshop makes my 5800x sweat when saving images but the other stuff i'm not familiar with
Intel Core duo and 2x 3090s, 100%
(Sarcasm)
no, you could do better if you're willing to custom build
that's outdated info
prebuilt manufacturers realized what people were doing
and now they are scalping too
was what i heard at the watercooler at work (equivalent of). that's really good to know.
i did a better build than this skytech for sub 2k after wasting $200+ on decorations
featuring 5800x 3080 as well
My friend built a 5800x 3080 build for 1600$
Dark rock 4 pro
In the midst of the shortage too
5800x for 400$ when the 5000 series shortage was a thing
Msrp asus tuf 3080
Meanwhile I went pre built
And ended up rebuilding for a total of 1750$ for a 3060 ti build
5800x + 360mm aio + 3800c14 ram + 1tb gen 4 sdd + 2tb gen 3 ssd + 3080 + enough fans to achieve liftoff + enough lighting for a stadium

seriously if i ramp the fans this thing can shake my desk
with like 100 pounds of crap on it
still sub 2k
Epic overclocked monitor
Pretty pog
went from 60hz to 200hz
Paimon 8k 400hz
I'm going to straight up build what you have @earnest olive Which fans and cables to you have? Do you have an arduino or raspberry pi looping the video?
explain like I'm five haha
i have all the parts you listed pulled
same with the case
no its just a bog standard hdmi monitor running wallpaper engine
i can put whatever i want on there
i can game on it
cables are lian li strimers
fans are generic id-cooling argb fans
is this the case?
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is size standardized on fans?
ah, i see. i wish i had a momitor to spare haha. i do have wallpaper engine though. its just not ideal to run it when using tools.
maybe feed the screen from another pc
atm, i have two desktops, a laptop, a tv, 3 32 inch monitors
but i flew to close to the sun. the universe didn't want me to be batman
2000 in damages later, I'm looking at just getting a large 32:9 monitor above my 32 in Wacom Cintiq Pro
im thinking the Scepter 49 inch
i don't have the XL just a regular o11
they're just 120mm fans yes
the monitor was like $55
9 fans and 2 strimers for the lighting? Which motherboard do you have?
for around $80 thats cheaper then most gold standerds at normal cost
it's why i was looking at it if gold and plat is the same price why not go with plat?
asrock b550 steel legend
Yeah suppose its decent deal if you don't mind the rebate, but these days rarely do you need a 750w psu, 3070 level 650w is enough, 3080 you want to go 850w ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ya that was like $60 more 😄
Wdym?
lol
wait i did my math poorly
$40.00 more
then at that point i would just go for gold slandered which would be like a $50 psu
Like this is a b tier which would be enough but ya it's decent price for the moment https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hRJmP6/evga-gd-2019-700-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-100-gd-0700-v1
ill never go back to none modular
cases where never made for those types of connections and when you had 2 hdd that was a pain bending all the sata cord to force them to fit
Fair nough
For a fresh 12th gen build, are u going to install win10 or win11?
I couldn't put the side panel on since the cord comes out of the case trying to fit to Sata next to each other. But tried other ports but they couldn't fit as well
@pato
Just horrible design for people with 2 to 3 drives or drives just in a row
honestly wish they redo sata points so there closer because it would make much more sense for 2 drives since there so far apart
Ya that's what I meant. Seems stupid high
GT1030 for $110
It's Woot.
They're amazon company but
Separate technically
Ya lf2 price is decent
it's most likely pulling it from a marketplace seller on amazon
What's hash on 1030? Seeing conflicting data. One claimed 30 on eth
That one is 2gb so eh
I'd go windows 11
You better
On my evga g3 they're almost too close, but I guess just right depending on cage spacing. I'm gonna make a couple small brackets & have my drives lined up on case bottom, they maybe cut out the stock cage except for what holds dvd drive in the very top.
PC certification boys!
Nice, that's somethin I'd like to complete
So I'm piss poor and I was wondering could this run overwatch? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zsN9xc
Better chance with a console at that kinda budget tbh
Ah
Well mom didnt raise a console scrub now did she?
If you had like ~600 you could do pc
I say 600$ in current situation can get you a decent iGP build
Or get lucky with GPU
Hp have 1650 super pc for like 620
Oh fun
Yee
Thats not terrible
8gb ram but you can update later on
@little osprey my friend can run over watch on a 1030 so you can always try xd
It's pretty good deal
Yea
Ew
How much
Uhd630 is better than a gt710
Gt710 is near useless other than displaying images imo
Can you get keyboard and mouse for console?
People will get mad at you but yes
Yes just use a normal kbm
In the USB ports
People will hate you though xd
Do I care tho?
Maybe
I don't
Would these parts be compatible?
GPU: https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-trinity-oc#spec
MotherBoard: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GvmmP6/msi-pro-z690-a-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-ddr4
Almost all gpus are compatible with most motherboards
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190?cr_rid=post_browse_exact&cm_mmc=emcb-retention-_-post_browse_exact-_-Pers_RetenEmailPBExactItem-_-83-360-190-_-SJGAAGKDKSJHA1639030283293V98&rec_value=-_-3742-_--_-83-360-190-_--_-83-360-190_1____-_-Pers_RetenEmailPBExactItem-_--_-&item=83-360-190 how much better would this be than https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189?Item=N82E16883360189&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-189-_-12092021 based on price and overall performance?
Yes basically any motherboard and gpu from the last 20 years are compatible
Meh, just get a 3070 one with 10400 for same price
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali586/p/N82E16883360221
Or 3060 ti one for cheaper
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali565/p/N82E16883360195
ok, thanks!
Np
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKfRfPn thoughts?
@little osprey ok a pretty neat window/rgb setup
how can i make this cleaner
Do this
Yes, issa joke. Gpu cables are tough though.
Just get Bluetooth pcie power cables
i ran bo4 at 50fps 1050p on a 1030 and 3470
when not used to high end gaming its surprisingly decent gameplay
and that was cpu limited too
Funny pcie still only spec'd for 75w, wtf. 150w would allow a downvolted 1080 or somethin. Could do pcie power port on the mobo instead like I've seen lately once
I mean not really
The card itself couldn't draw that from the port
They need that supplemental cable for now
Question, is a Cooler Master M240L 240mm version 1 AIO enough to cool a Intel I7-10700K?
I will find someone who isn't playing with my emotions ;~;
I mean w/ supplemental gpu power port on mobo, could a gpu take 150w thru the slot, or not optimal/possible? I know cable-less GPUs aren't a big deal though
for gaming yes
for rendering maybe
Are you familiar with the cooler?
I managed to push a 10700K to 101C all core on a 360mm aio running prime95 lol
1.35V
Well.mine is a lemon then
but for gaming it's more than enough
and rendering should be ok though I'd still recommend 360 for it
Thank you, so it is worth going throuvh the rma process to get another one
did it die or something
yeah I mean if it works it's a good enough cooler
You won't believe the temps I'm getting, at BIOs idling it was bringing in a wopping 45-55C, in windows upon start up jumping to 90-96C dropping back down to 60-80C, and during stress testing it was hitting 96C average with like three cores at 100C.
I figured it was the pump not moving the water when I saw the average water temp staying below 45-50 and slowly climbing to the temp of the CPU, which told me it was just gradually heating the water up, like a stove eye.
The pump doesn't have any singular indicator of it running, all I get is Pump RPM, but that sits at 1200-1600, I could set all fans to 100% and it makes no difference on the CPU core temperature.
I and both a professional PC builder both unmounted and applied thermal paste and still found it was overheating drastically. I've done both the X method and what he did which was the butter spread method. Still no difference in CPU temps.
The only thing I have to think of whats happening is the dual chamber is keeping the hot water ontop of the CPU and not cycling it out, causing it to overheat.
So I have a lemon that is terrible at cooling the computer and I needed to know if I was to get a new one that worked (hopefully) that it would do the job, instead of getting one that was insuffecient in cooling down these chipsets IE wasting more time and resources into something that wouldn't even work if I did get one that is working.
Sounds like the pump itself is the main/only issue actually, but I know little about LC.
i would be terrified to use that lmfao
I missed that msg earlier. Hilarious. Gonna be like Pentium extreme editions be stock clocked at 6ghz and needing 400w or something
Thats what I'm thinking, so since I've already bought it and its warrenty I'm gonna try and do the RMA process to get a new pump or AIO since the great orange mushroom told me it should be good enough for gaming.
Aio, but can the pump easily come off and be replaced by itself? I wonder what the rma would require
Probably not, I'll probably have to sent everything back and get a new one in return
Forgot to mention no the pump itself is tied onto the radiator, not able to be removed
Gotcha. Oh, unlike when the cpu mount/waterblock is the pump too. Interesting. Would be a good time to have a spare hsf to swap on or somethin, darn
¯_(ツ)_/¯ well thank yah gentlemen
We try. The biggest thing I like about aio is honestly much less weight on the mobo. Hsf are heavy
@strong raft Thanks. We tried to duplicate the PCMR Case look
Right on. The mirror/chrome sort of tintjob is slick. Not a fan of front glass myself, but only for airflow. Looks sharp though.
All I can ask about is if gpu cable can loop around the end at all. It's pretty clean overall.
It was never an air flow front panel anyway. Plus the XL cools very well
Indeed, found the LL 011 or such is LC based as well. Apparently I don't need to fret over mobo airfow much.
Thoughts on the Noctua NH-D15 intead of an aio
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for what cpu
ryzen 7 3800x
how much are you paying for it
.
Im not paying someone was talking about getting an aio and I was like get a noctua their pretty nice
its like 100
wdym
youre not buying the 3800x?
ahh
I told him to get a vetroo v5 cooler
the 3800x tends to get fairly hot, but i dont think as hot as 5000 series
i think that would be fine, iirc its one that pato suggests
but he wants that luxury stuff yk
Ok so I just finished building my pc and it turns on all fans are on all lights are on everything is flowing good. But when I try to connect my pc to my monitor the monitor doesn’t detect and signal
Anyone know what to do
Where did you plug your monitor to?
And what cpu and gpu do you have
Ok cpu I have 12 th gen i5 gpu is a 2080 super (reused my prebuilts gpu) and I plugged my monitor into my gpu and used both hdmi and display port
Try clear cmos
^
What’s that
Defines CMOS technology and how to clear CMOS using the jumper or battery methods.
It's your bios settings but there's a guide on how to do
Ok
If that doesn't work try reseat your ram
Might also just have a diagnosis light on somewhere 👀
Lol forgot they existed for a bit
Guess the cmos worked tho
For $90, be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 is good. If friend wanted to save $40 and still have a decent dual tower hsf: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QMK5R45/
frost spirit 120 cheaper btw
wait no
wrong link
There we go
also yeah i meant 140 but whatever
Yep, $47 right now w/ that checkout coupon. That's the bang for buck. I like the lighter/cheaper 120mm Peerless Assassin, but it's probably not best for those hotter cpu's. 🤘
Some of these $50ish hsf's are a great deal considering good single towers used to be similar price. Of course, pretty neat that certain aio's are also not crazy expensive anymore.
For a 3800x I'd get a frost spirit 140 for air or arctic liquid freezer ii/ek rgb/lian li Galahad 240mmm+ for aio
Tbf you dont want to be buying those 60-70$ aios most of the time
I sure wouldn't. Water + PC = no good.
Nah. It's the stuff in water that conducts electricity.
If you distill it perfectly it'll be fine. Water itself isn't conductive
Ah that's right. Sure is interesting seeing PC's inside the tanks of some sort of liquid/oil.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RFF3fP Can anyone help me with this list from pc part picker? I wanted a white build for my EVGA 3080
considering between the Gigabyte Z690 AERO G and z690-P
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PrJPbh I'd do this
Gigabyte ddr4 z690 boards have been having some issues with the ram so I'd stay away from the moment until they release a patch
which one is better? 12900K or 12900KF?
what ab this bro @fossil cedar
f is just 12900k without the integrated graphics
12700k is better for gaming, the kraken is meh and overpriced, enermax revolution d.f. is great , i just went with the leadex iii because it was a couple $ cheaper
also you need more than 4 fans in an o11d really
If it's possible
Gettin some p12 a-rgb white ones would save some money
Not some, good chunk of it
Not sure if they're on sale rn tho, just got announced lately
theres p12 rgb and p12 white but not p12 rgb white
There is, just not available for sale yet lel
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News literally came today
ahh nice
Hey just wondering if a 3060ti for 550 is a good deal right now? also its from a guy on twitter, sound legit??
Twitter? sus
Best to meet in person
The price is not too bad but sus seeing that it's coming from twitter
yeah kinda what i was thinking he also started his price at 700 then dropped it to 550 when i said i dont have 700 in the budget for a card
very very sus, they can insta sell it for 900$ on ebay or facebook marketplace
Msrp was $400 , just sayin
😫
of the founders edition sure but like
They're like CA gas prices pretty much, lul. Oh well. Pay to play.
i have 9 already dw
i bought lian li already so dw
Ahh okay fair enough
just gonna buy 1 more to have full 10 in the XL
Fair enough
there's no white mobo to match with the 12700K atm @fossil cedar
Prime p?
I saw the z690 asus prime but i don't like the aesthetic of it tbh
it's silver
Major PC Gaming Upgrade! - Asus Prime z690-p D4, i7 12700k, 3080 RTX, wd black sn850 1TB, 2x8gB cl16 3600mhz ram
I like unify, but that doesn't mean I'll pay 400$ for it, just get smth else :p
what is unify
It's a high end msi board
yeah that's why i'm thinking ab this build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MfYhsX
very cool board
Kraken is meh and overpriced also black in white build okay but silver not eeeee
unify is literally and figuratively cool, overkill vrms and heatsink xD
Lol
and yea z73 overpriced as heck
yeah i also like the lian li white ones
still debating bcuz with the z73 i can put an anime waifu on it :p

just put a sticker on for 5$
or put on a figure for 20$
much cheaper than like 150$ price hike
lian li gives you a thing to dangle stuff on the aio pump, sips literally has a waifu dangling on the pump xD
yea lol
emergency food*
not waifu
true
that do be paimon
Gpu power cable is too crooked
https://www.newegg.com/p/2YM-002Y-00009?Description=Lian Li GALAHAD AIO&cm_re=Lian_Li GALAHAD AIO-_-2YM-002Y-00009-_-Product&quicklink=true should I buy this? @fossil cedar it included the uni fan
if you already have so many unifans you might as well get the lian li galahad non unifan version which should be a bit cheaper
can u link me
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CYCWJKW/ref=crt_ewc_title_oth_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1B22XXMSBBRK1 this one right?
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yeah... its not in stock tho :/
you think I should get a black build instead?
@fossil cedar 🤧 i can sell the white ones tho
i mean you could but the rad and pump and tubes would be black instead of white then
yea then kraken z73 would be nice
So I have an asus b350 prime plus but I was wondering if it would support rip jaw 16gb ddr4 at 3200mhz but some people say it won't run at that speed even if overclockee
depends what cpu youre using
Ryzen 5 2600 and the bios is already updated so that it will support
the ryzen 5 2600 SHOULD be able to do 3200mhz but no promises, what ram do you have atm?
@fossil cedar G.SKILL Ripjaws 16gb ddr4 3200
you have that atm? are you having problems with it?
Not at all but when I overclock in bios and I leave it I'm worried if the ram frequency will cause the screen to black out
when in doubt, clear cmos
dont overclock it any higher, just do xmp(called docp on asus boards), if youre worried its unstable then run test mem 5 extreme anta profile and make sure there is no errors
that's all you need to do if it crashes
that too ^
@Pato thanks
can u recommend me some good black z690 mobo? @fossil cedar
@stoic island
my budget for mobo is around 300-400$
msi a pro, asus tuf, msi tomohawk
@fossil cedar and also 1 last question so I plug in my rgb fans to the rgb header turn on the pc but the fans won't light up
which one would be the best among the three?
thats because you need to plug the rgb plug into a rgb header/hub and a pwm plug into a pwm header/hub
tomahawk but theyre all enough for a 12900k
Oh
yeah the tomahawk looks nice
ye
Aye does anyone know why my PC isn't booting up on the first ram slot?
only boot up when I put a ram in the second slot?
2nd slot and 4th slot is usually the slots you want to be using, as they are the main slots
I only have 2 ram slots
A 1 and B1
A1 and b1*
mobo is a ASRock B450M HDV r4.0
then its probably a bad ram slot or your ram being finicky
try clear cmos after putting ram in your first slot
.
if not then its probs bad slot
so should i like..
remove the CMOS
then install both of the ram
then put back the battery?
put the ram in, then clear cmos, you can either do the battery method which involves removing the battery and unplugging the pc from the wall for about 3 mins or shorting the 2 clear cmos pins on your board
Alright, I'll try doing that.
Could be imc on cpu
I've seen it happen before
unless its faulty imc all together, like its possible unlikely it just wouldnt recognise 1 slot
Not really
Sometimes if a surge or something happens and damages it, it can have just one part of it not working properly
fair
Could be the dimm slots themselves but I'd say imc is just as likely depending on their circumstances
Ok,
tried and nothing
Most likely a somewhat dead motherboard.
Probably gonna have to get a replacement tbh,
Does anyone know a good motherboard on sale?
You should be able to rma your motherboard with asrock tbh
I bought this motherboard a year ago..
so idk about that one
warranty should be 2 years or so
Ah okay, what cpu do you have?
Okay, are you in the us?
Yup,
hm 60$ on amazon..
Oh is it possible that if you overtighten your screws you can short out your first ram slot correct?
Uh no
Ok, just want to be sure.
You'd need to short something to mess with your ram slot
Alright,
Think they just meant overtightening screws in general
There's 2 cables of your fans, 1 end the rgb connector, the other is the pwm(one that will make it spin) connector, you need to plug them in
This one?
Yeah that should be your fans power
Where do I connect it on the MOBO?
Should say chasis_fan or case-fan or something
What about sys_fan?
yeah any fan header is fine
Ye it's fine
Like tightening the mobo too much, but there's always a good 1/2" gap where the standoffs on so idk.
4 pin headers just usually allow pwm or something so fans can be set to adjust speed by temps or have a custom fan curve. I also have 3pin fans on a bunch of 4 pin mobo headers. 👍
anyone build a 12700k with MSI z690 pro-A motherboard?
I'd remove mobo completely, maybe remove io shield, then install both. Sometimes io shield acts up mainly. A lil bit of force to line up holes might be required anyways
Oh, integrated io shield i see.
The silver part is bigger than the opening by a bit i think
Yah its part of the board
Well its held on by the screws that hold the box thing its on on i think
That case opening is usually a standard shape/size. Is a mobo standoff in wrong spot or just a few mm from not letting a screw through?
Yah
Just a few off on top
Because board cant slide in fully
Because of io sheild lip
Ok i looked at pic again. I'd try to push mobo edge harder and if it lines up enough, then get at least 1 screw in
Could start w/ a screw or 2 in opposite corner then it's like youre just rotating a bit instead of trying to slide it completely in
My first build
Rear case fan before cpu hsf is what I just thought of. Been years since I did more than a new gpu/ram/ssd, that's the ez stuff usually.
Cpu is water cooled
Ok
Gona need advice on wireing in a bit
Umm is this the motherboard screws
can someone help me with a build for my friend he's spending like 3k on the whole setup
can i get a list bc my brain too tiny to make one
oof
Well there's 8 or 9 holes on mobo but you could leave out 1 or 2, like at middle bottom and middle side. They will have to match the standoff threads.
I prefer the hex, but if those phillips work, "then they work". I have a mix of screws in my pc actually. Threads are important not the head of course.
Ok
Hard to go wrong w/ most mobos that are $150+, especially Z series. Anything around $200 might have plenty of VRMs for ya.
@pato personally havent build a list in a while. Pato is pretty smart
I was gonna say try various screws in the standoffs* to see which ones match perfectly. Good to have em all set aside before hand.
Above the rad or on side? Yeah, 1 more i front dossnt hurt. Generally want plenty of intake for positive air pressure
My bad, not on rad. I just meant a 3rd in the front if possible, yep. 1 outtake by the mobo io wouldn't hurt also.
Edited
Nah i wouldn't bother w/ that spot
Rn without the 5th it has the radiator and the 2 intakes
And the powersuply
So just a 3rd exhaust?
Yeah, some cases have 3 intake right on the front so this is a lil different. Many people don't even use a rear/top exhaust I've noticed. Would be neat if we could easily stand a fan on the psu shield inbetween intake & the GPU if that makes sense.
Might be able to but i don't think so
No biggie on that thought. More exhaust than intake supposedly pulls in more dust than otherwise, but idk.
-- 2 intake 2 exhaust like that is more than decent
Psu doesn't really effect case airflow how its shielded and such. -- is there a hole back top corner for mobo power to come through?
Oh hang on I can actually show my crazy wiring and my setup.
Im just realizeing because the front 2 came from the radiator the dont have wire really... And i dont think i have one
I dont
I know this might be tricky or impossible. Oh, sideways pic too
Oh, stock rad fans were thicker I guess. I can't tell if mobo power cable can go up the back and fit passed the rad+fans or not.
Oh yeah, CPU. That's what I meant. Not the 24pin, which obviously goes around the front-side somewhere
Solid 8 into board or split 2 4
Uh usually the solid 8 into psu, because some mobos (CPU) have just 4 pin even though it's rare nowadays.
Ok 8 fits its one socket so in it goes
bingo
rotate it, does 1 side of the connector on 1 end say vga or somethin? Mine do at least, I have an evga psu too
yep. push
pliers or a flat screwdriver to hold the tab maybe. Part of why I always did a HSF tbh.
psu screwed in?
Took it out
modular is so nice for that.
yep, 24pin
That's fine. mobo cable is always awkward. They don't bend easy. PLus, they need to go straight forward instead of stick out like they do. GPU? Yeah, I'd say last because they take up a lot of room and dont want to bump em
What next?
ssd?
yep, looks like a sata data cable. also need power. The label on PSU might say perif and sata power looks like tha data cable but the connector is a bit "wider" & is only for sata stuff specificially.
So I need 3 of these for a 3080? If so damn lol
This?
Yes
haha, I wouldn't know w/ my peasant gpu that's only 6+8pin lol.
Thanks I got cable extension but didn’t get enough
I mean for now just use normal PCI-e cables and swap when you get more
^
Yeah yeah it might be a pain to reroute cables but I'd rather have the performance gain of a 3080 rather than have my computer do nothing for a few days
and yes that last pic is for sata ssd/hdd. In the future you'll probably get an m.2 nvme drive that just goes on the mobo w/ no wires, they're pretty neat.
K thanks
LuL, big-big toe like me
Lol
I know, those dang cable kits are like $30 or something
well I've seen people used to custom sleeve their power cables. oh man the time that would take. ---which PSU by the way. Just a G+ 650 currently and a G3 (got crazy cheap) as backup. Antec isn't my go to w/ all the options nowadays.
Do I need both cpu eps cables plugged in?
sata connector on mobo is on front edge in front of that big heatsink. There's a white label or somethin on 1 of em. That's them. Use 1 of top 2 ports 1st I'd say.
I’m sorry were you asking for me?
I have the msi 850 dgf
Yeah no matter though. -- My bad, meant heatwave. I get missed up w/ a bunch of comments and similar green names.
Yes, if you can. You mean on the mobo? I would. Not needed for some cpu's but helps stability, like for a powerful one that might pull a bunch of power while boosting or something.
can anyone give me a part list?
64gb ram
3070ti
at leasst i7 10th gen
nvme ssd 1tb X2
Rgb
budget 3000
Australian dolaars
My part list but 4 not 2 16 ram
Sure. I'm not sure about the SSD and OS installation because I normally start w/ a fresh empty drive, then no drivers or w/e or worry about being wonky.
Mine is 2222usd roughly
I have. A monitor included in mine
can i have part list?
i can try to dig up mine if youd like
but it was during black friday so things cost more now
and 2020 at that
i seee
thanks
do you think things will get cheaper on boxing day?
like day after christmas
thanks
$600 for that 3070 actually seemed fairly decent. 👍 That's what you paid?
yeah i got lucky
do u have anyy pics of it irl?
the pc
You just got that on black friday? SCORE
Slim fans are required and ssd not included
ok nvm it does saw it in the manual
Slim fans needed to swap for radiator stock ones or it wont fit
wonder why my ram didnt light uyp
Good PSU! and that cooler is pretty popular.
I have a question, I kinda screwed up and my motherboard doesn't have a DP. The only benefit to DP to my knowledge is variable refresh rate. Is VRR worth a return and hunt for a new motherboard?
Yah i heard somewhere never skimp on psu
no idea, only rgb thing I have is the Strix gpu using the asus aura program, and Razer Kraken 
I'm not sure, but even DVI was pretty good. hdmi is super common now though. Hard to believe hdmi wouldn't allow VRR also.
hmm i can get a picture but all of the rgb is off
Ok so where do these go
those are
audio headers
i dont recognize the blue one
oh and one is a usb header
do you have a td 500 by any chance
those connectors look similar
Come from here
in your motherboard manual
On mobo it's along bottom or near it and front usb stuff it's generally "F-usb" on mobo
HDMI does support it but from what I know only 2.1 and not 2.0, but I might be completely wrong about that. My motherboard is 2.0 so if I would need to change it if what I know is correct.
for me it was in the bottom left
Yeah look at my pic, 99% of mobos are like that, then there's extra ports ahead frontwards
Found 1
Darn, wish I knew actually. I'm stuck on 60hz for now & not using Vsync w/ a 130fps limit just for kicks.
careful on those one I kinda bent like 2 of those pins
had to bend them back in the orginal spot.
which was a pain*
Mine says F-Audio actually, how simple haha. It's the power/restart sort of buttons that are sketchy because they're skinny and individual. You'll get what I mean when you find em
Thats in right?
Looks fully in.
I noticed how the besides case, all that stuff showed up on same day. That'd be awesome.
yep. if your front ports are usb 3 then use usb 2 or usb3 header if there is one. My mobo is old enough it has some stuff labeled usb1.1 which obviously I avoid.
I mean on yours usb1 just means it's the 1st of those 2 headers, but supports usb3 speed perhaps, if that makes sense. --JAUD1 indeed looks like the only spot for the front audio stuff
edited*
Right general area?
yep
K
bunch of that you probably won't use. JRGB1 is of course for rgb something. idk what JF1, JCI1 is. SYS_FAN 4, 5, w/e is of course for case fans. 4 pin Fan headers allow pwm w/ 4 pin fans, meaning bios can adjust fans by load instead of being full speed.
to the right something said JFP1, might be for a front panel connector of some sort. Remember I'm just used to Gigabyte mobos and stuff varies.
1 sec
not labeled on my mobo at all, so idk how i got em right. port/header seems color coded a bit though
On mine for example, power switch or reset switch is 2 wires and 1 is posi 1 is neg. Bet I had to try em a few times to get right.
I like your cable though. That one seems mostly lined em and should make it easier to hook em up. Oh, that page helps a lot. lol
Yah
I was thinking they went here, but manuals help sometimes. HDD LED seems so unneeded nowadays huh. I don't even need a power button myself, mobo has one.
Thats where mine says
Too bad those can't be in 1 nice connector and identical on every mobo, but no big deal.
Ok think thats right
So put cpu cooler on now?
Or fans?
Cpu c has radiator fans on it
Assuming its the pump aswell if it has one idk how it works
either goes to the "cpu_fan" header or one labeled pump-fan or something like that.
I'm thinking so because that is basically the pump cable? is there a booklet or something to double check. haven't tried an aio or LC yet myself.
No book for radiator that i can find
if 1 isnt right, might just have to flip it. no big deal if hdd light doesnt work instantly, could fix later.
Will a 3080 break without a bracket to hold it?
This thing is massive will the sagging mess it up?
Nah, just pcb might bend a bit over time. Doesn't hurt to have a small piece of thin* plywood or something propped under the front corner. That's what I do just to be safe. rear bracket holds most of it decent.
Im gonna thermal paste the cpu cooler
Can I just order a sag bracket for now and leave it for now?
I'd say so. If it really gets to ya, grab a cup or w/e is close height and use that for a few days, lol. Seriously

Good?
Might be plenty. Many people do like a big pea or BB-sized dot. I used to use my finger or credit card in a plastic bag to just do a thin cover. Felt like I trusted that more than wondering if it was squeezed out enough. ball of cookie dough smooshed makes a circle not a square, that's also my thinking.
Ok
Just don't go the route The Verge took
This way?
nice arctic
Thanks
i'm gonna buy one soon
Is it right way the block part?
Whatcha think sudo? we're almost there.
I needed 15mm thick fans for it to fit
His placement. I dont know much about LC
Does it matter what way up cooling block is?
everyone mounts it differently from what i'm seeing here
Ok
Pato I think showed a pic 1 time of various placements but I do think top rad is better than front at least.
It comes pre filled right?
Is that's a normal AIO, it should. That's part of the big thing about them, and basically self-contained so no mess no fuss, just toss or change it some day.
Yeah, that to pump header probably, not the 1 labeled simply cpu-fan
could, if no sys_fan header in reach on left/bottom of mobo somewhere. Actually yes it's no issue. You'll just see rpm's in bios and remember what's what
3 pin fan doesn't have pwm or voltage adjustment (w/o a LV dongle) so any header will do. Other words, full speed 24/7 (fine depending on fan). 👍
Ok so since i dont have where would this go?
Umm i ment since i dont have the front fan cables where does this go
nope, it doesn't matter
And that's for bios speaker
Like for beeps and such
It's purely optional
But you can connect it to pc speaker headed
Cant find sh
darn right optional, haha.
Uh, it might get annoying.. btw , that's german
Lables are same tho
fp2? nah
Aparently this is one so i moved it
ok, but pretty sure that dumb bios speaker isn't all that helpful. Is there a 2digit LED thing on the mobo anyone? They usually flash numbers or letters. THat's what's used to diagnos boot problems or somethin.
My z77 does... Wait, you moved the sata cable. those 6 ports are just sata data.
Might not matter if all of em are Sata 3 speed. Example, mine are labeled 0-5 actually. top 2 are Sata 3 (600Mbps or w/e) and the lower 4 ports are Sata 2 speed.
Separate questions
idk what dust alarm you mean.
Meant this btw. Debug something it's called I think
Yeah it can get tossed back in the box.
A old desktop i have got dusty and wouldn't shut up till i cleaned it. Sounded like fire alarm
Ok
oh, yikes. Sounds like dial up or Windows 98/2000 days, and I only used those a bit because of my dad. AMD was ATI and they had their neat All-In-Wonder gpu's, hook up to cable to watch/record stuff to the pc.
Should i get the v card now?
Seems like time. Foxy?
oh yeah, plenty for that one. Doubt the 3060 goes much over 200W alone, maybe 250W absolute max.
Lol it smells like oranges in a good way
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hey guys just plugged in pc all the lights/fans turn on and gpu. But nothing shows up on monitor any idea on how i should start to debug.
Sooo fans down?
its good but not the best value
yes
120$ is good right?
where did you plug the monitor into?
or should I get the enermax
enermax, ew
GPU fans down, oh yeah. top slot usually also.
lol
oh wait
revo df, rmx, msi agf
nvm
enermax d.f
all on the same platform
the display port
hm
guess i shuold do mobo?
yes the ram one
you're doing it right
just noticed that
well then try booting with one stick
corsair is a little better overall imo, but p much neglidgable
the ram is not being detected
ram could be faulty
or wait no the agf is the one with meh case support i think
i had 4 in there
you got two dual kits?
corsair one may have a lil better fan too but the differences are p small
corsair is cheaper tho
yea i got 2 dual kits
hmm, if 2 kits, try 1 kit alone . Sometimes separate kits don't act right
ye but revo df and agf go on sale often
try booting with one kit
Hehehe
did it boot w/ only 2 stick in before? Maybe just 1 stick or 1 whole kit is wonky
if it doesn't work it won't
Tis in
nice
RAM is 1 of the things that if it's dead it's dead and gotta RMA or somethin. Rare, but it happens.
add the $60 coupon and its $90
Nearly there
I just realized, you've checked bios already? Perhaps it'll show ram that are good and then can tell which might be bad. Also shutdown & try just reseating all the memory
hey guys, i just got my MOBO and CPU in the mail!!!
Im upgrading from a B450 to a B550. What are the best practices when upgrading? Do I need to reinstall windows?
yup a clean install is always reccomended
this one better than the corsair?
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MAG-Z690-DDR4-Motherboard/dp/B09GLD72QH/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=MSI+MAG+Z690+TOMAHAWK&qid=1639192128&s=electronics&sr=1-1 should I buy from Amazon or Newegg?
not better but still good
Does someone need 850 W, because: https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-750-platinum-ssr-750px-750w/p/N82E16817151191
like similar?
oh ok! whats the best way to back up my files? Im savvy enough but id like to take the necessary steps since this is my workstation
fck it booted with 2
sorry, im not really great with data stuff lol, maybe someone else here can answer that
If 2 boot, then shutdown and swap the others into same slots and we're know what's up.
no worries man! ill hop on the windows sub
aight
Lol
