building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[clever nova]

with the galahad, do i need to buy a mount for the lg 1700 socket?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

you can request one

[clever nova]

oh

[obsidian wigeon]

but according to em

if you buy one now there's a chance it already has the mounting bracket

[clever nova]

had to cancel the order real quick lol

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08GWZFP7T

[obsidian wigeon]

you can ask the retail you're ordering from

like if it already comes with the bracket or nah

[clever nova]

so i ask amazon?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[stoic island]

Lian Li says orders before December won't have the brackets
https://lian-li.com/lga1700-mounting-kit-announcement/

[obsidian wigeon]

i confused december with november

heck

[clever nova]

guess ill wait a couple days lol?

[desert gulch]

prolly lol

[clever nova]

almost ordered 3 days before and got cucked lol

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

wait for it a few

[clever nova]

thank you

[stoic island]

You're welcome

[clever nova]

do you code?

[stoic island]

Java so not really

[clever nova]

why java not really? should i have said programming?

i need to get my googling skils on your level 😂

[stoic island]

I mean, java is simple and can be fun, but not the most useful nowadays

If you want to make something useful, go C or Python

[stoic island]

Just need to know what to google

[clever nova]

my interviewer said Java+ Java Spring is still pretty hot rn

[stoic island]

meh, I don't really think so

Java is just, there, it's not the most simple, nor the most efficient, nor the fastest, it's just there

[clever nova]

rip Java

[stoic island]

But hey, I like using it because I'm too lazy to learn something else and it works for me

[stoic island]

and well, all you need to do to google things is just look up the keywords, don't need anything else, and you'll find the result you're looking for

[desert gulch]

Also don't use Google as search engine

Since it never gives you what you're looking for, it gives you what may get you to buy something

[stoic island]

Oh yea google is inconsistent

[desert gulch]

Yeah lol

[stoic island]

Since it tries to curate your results

because google

[desert gulch]

Ad targeting yeah

[clever nova]

wow was that ez

[stoic island]

duckduckgo is neat

[proper night]

@stoic island Does the MX 330-G Air fit a 5.25" optical drive? The DVD drive is important as you can play PS2 games right off the disk with some emulators.

[stoic island]

I believe it does, but you'll have to double check

[proper night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sh9Vrr

Updated

Additionally, I've been looking to get myself a Blu-Ray writer that can do basically everything including 3D and UHD disks. I want to be able to rip my disks to make personal backups. The reviews on the units I've looked at usually have comments to the effect that firmware updates have gimped the ability of units to do one or all of the above. Any suggestions?

[little osprey]

ok so the pc i was originally gonna get is sold out, any recommendations for a <1700$ budget prebuilt pc (preferably not open box)

would be appreciated

[strong raft]

That reminds me instead of a normal blu ray player for a TV, I'm gonna search for a blu ray-able disc drive for my PC. thnx

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190 Good for the price atm?

[desert gulch]

meh

for a gaming rig id say no

[little osprey]

Why not

i was pinged

a

[desert gulch]

you wont use the 11700f hardly while just gaming

not a great value config for gaming

what die is it?

[little osprey]

cjr

[desert gulch]

did you test occt/ tm5?

[frank stirrup]

Ok so one person didnt get great results so dont oc?

[desert gulch]

and yeah cjr is p meh until you start crankin voltage

[frank stirrup]

Also 3600c18 flatter timings would be nice perf jump

Loving my rev e tho

3800c14 very nice

[little osprey]

hmm
ive seen someone get 3733mhz cl16 with the ram but not the 32gb version

[little osprey]

😮

[vestal flare]

I wanna build my little siblings their first computer for Christmas (ones 7 and the other is 4). Only cpu i could find used that works from computers that ive had was an i5 2320 and ive seen some ok benchmarks with it just wondering what i should pair it with? A gtx 650? 660? 660ti? They obviously wont be playing super heavy games or anything like that probably just kid games like the new peppa pig one or anything light.

[little osprey]

that thing is old

[vestal flare]

Yes but, it can still run small games and old games. Its ok for this kinda thing

Dont wanna go overkill

I could try to get a 4th gen i5

Like 4460

[proper night]

You're welcome. I don't suppose you have any recommendations?

[runic flare]

@little osprey

[little osprey]

ye v

[limber oyster]

@frank stirrup would a i5-8600k, MSI z390 gaming plus, and a Corsair 240mm aio a good set for $250?

That's with shipping

[frank stirrup]

Tbh i wouldnt

[topaz kestrel]

i think you can get some 3060 ones for 1100 or 1000

[frank stirrup]

Its not bad

But for a little more you can get an 11400 system

[limber oyster]

And a 240mm aio?

[frank stirrup]

240mm aio uselessly overkill for the cpu

[limber oyster]

🤷‍♂️room to upgrade later I guess...though with the board there's not much more importing you can do

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXDtVc

350$ but worth it

[topaz kestrel]

@frank stirrup on a scale of 1-185 how much would a 1070 bottle neck a i5-12600k

[frank stirrup]

Eh wont be too bad

[topaz kestrel]

ok thanks

[frank stirrup]

Dont worry about it

Just upgrade the gpu next

[topaz kestrel]

also is the sea hawk a bad version of the 1070 or something because someones selling one for alot cheaper than a normal 1070 near me, im buying it if it doesnt sell by christmas+

[limber oyster]

I hate how Intel changes board chipset every gen or every other gen

[frank stirrup]

If its a lot cheaper its probably a scam

[topaz kestrel]

im going to see it in person

and test it

its not "alot" cheaper but its 100 ish under most 1070's

should i go with the seahawk or spend abit more and just get a normal air cooler card @frank stirrup ?

[frank stirrup]

Seahawk is fine

[topaz kestrel]

alrighty

and mounting it on the back is fine right?

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

[topaz kestrel]

ok just checking

[frank stirrup]

Just make sure everything works

[topaz kestrel]

yeah i am doing, he said he can prove with gpu-z etc so im confident it aint gonna be a scam

but im still checking never the less

[frank stirrup]

Take ur computer or a test system with u

[topaz kestrel]

yeah i am

[frank stirrup]

Put it in there and run furmark

And gpuz

[topaz kestrel]

furmark?

[frank stirrup]

Gpu stress test

[topaz kestrel]

ah

will i be able to oc the seahawk better than a normal air card?

[frank stirrup]

Silicon lottery

[topaz kestrel]

or higher should i say

[frank stirrup]

Depends

[strong raft]

Just a few I found on Amazon real quick. Haven't bought a disc drive since my Samsung SH223 or w/e it is from a decade ago-ish. I'd probably skip the left 14x model myself. Best seller for various reasons incl the price.

[celest horizon]

I've always liked lite-on drives

[topaz kestrel]

@frank stirrup you alive?

ok

i see you are

i require some help

[frank stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/389302877107257354.png?size=48

[topaz kestrel]

oof

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/boiledgoose/saved/nQVt7P

what cooler

do i use

[frank stirrup]

Wassup

[topaz kestrel]

the 212 kinda just there as a place holder

[frank stirrup]

1 sec lemme see

[topaz kestrel]

alrighty

[frank stirrup]

Parts list is private

[topaz kestrel]

oh

1 sec

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/boiledgoose/saved/#view=sXMPFT

[frank stirrup]

Can you send me the edit link

[topaz kestrel]

how do i do that?

[frank stirrup]

So i can make changes

[topaz kestrel]

oh wait

nvm

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/X73r2V

like that?

[frank stirrup]

Yep thats it

[topaz kestrel]

the missing stuff like the power supply etc i already have, i just couldnt be bothered to put it in like the ram lol

[frank stirrup]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zWnbNP

[topaz kestrel]

i saw that i just wasnt sure if it was good or not

quick question

[frank stirrup]

Its good yeah

[topaz kestrel]

would it benefit from a second fan on it or is that just a waste?

[frank stirrup]

Unecessary tbh

[topaz kestrel]

alright

just checking

as you can see

i hate rgb

lol

i like solid colors

not rainbow puke xd

thanks anyways

[fossil cedar]

Don't go gigab d4 for the moment btw, mem training issues

[frank stirrup]

Ahh right

I forgor 💀

@topaz kestrel get the msi a pro

[topaz kestrel]

the one that cost slightly more?

[fossil cedar]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/LWPQzy/msi-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4

[topaz kestrel]

thought so, ill add it now

[fossil cedar]

5£ more and comes with wifi

[topaz kestrel]

a bluetooth card is just plug into pcie and it works right?

[fossil cedar]

How dare tou

[fossil cedar]

Ye but if you get that mobo don't need, Bluetooth comes with WiFi cards and that has built in

[frank stirrup]

Wifi means its got bluetooth as well

[topaz kestrel]

oh

well saving the 5 pound is good then because i was gonna buy a bluetooth card lol

[frank stirrup]

Sorry mom

[fossil cedar]

Better be 😤

[strong raft]

Wifi isn't necessarily Bluetooth, and vice versa

[frank stirrup]

I was talking about wifi motherboards tho...

[topaz kestrel]

@frank stirrup what does "6e wifi" mean? is it just the type it runs at and how fast?

[frank stirrup]

Its the wifi standard

[topaz kestrel]

6e?

[strong raft]

I got mixed up. 6E is newer than 6, not common at all yet.

[topaz kestrel]

ah

so 6e is good?

2400mbs sheesh

[strong raft]

sort of, doesnt seem like a huge upgrade from the current wifi 6 aka 5ghz AX stuff.

[topaz kestrel]

saying im only paying an extra 5 pounds im happy with it lol

[strong raft]

That's good. ah, 6E is 6ghz vs normal wifi 6 is 5ghz. Higher speeds, but not too far because the higher frequency doesnt go through many obstacles as easy.

[little osprey]

dont wory
i rember

[gaunt moat]

Update i sold my second system with a 9700k and 1080ti for 2k somehow i set it at 1400 base price and it got bid up to 2k but now i can sell 3070 i got for i think a reasonable price is 800 base price with bidding on and hopefully get a 3090 And a 5900x by christmas

[shrewd fjord]

2k!!

[little osprey]

💀 💀 all the bestseller prebuilts out of stock

[desert gulch]

Did they actually pay 2k yet or nah?

Cause sometimes ppl bid like crazy then won't pay

[obsidian wigeon]

^

it's bid trolling

[gaunt moat]

Yea its already shipped total profits where 1997 after taxes and shipping

Saposidly there kid found my listing and said what i had was exactly what they wanted and had been trying to save for but they didnt want to build it so ig they searched ebay for a long time and found mine

[fossil cedar]

Oh nice idek how you managed to sell that for 2k

[gaunt moat]

[fossil cedar]

Oof

Poor guy got ripped

Probs watching old tech vids or something

[gaunt moat]

No they prefered the 1080ti over 30 series for there use case

[obsidian wigeon]

weird

[gaunt moat]

Specifically something with Vr stability

Idk im not a tech wizard when it comes to vr

[fossil cedar]

That makes no sense lol

[gaunt moat]

Dont ask me they had reasons for it but i didnt care i made alot more than i expected

I expected no hits then drop ot to like 1k and maybe get 1200 out of it

If i was lucky

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190 what cpu cooler would be better in this build?

[stoic island]

Thermalright pa120 prob

[little osprey]

What about an aio?

[agile veldt]

Would this ram TEAMGROUP ELITE 32GB (2 x 16GB) PC5-38400 (DDR5-4800) UDIMM Memory TED532G4800C
work with https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144484?Item=N82E16813144484

[stoic island]

You go check clearances yourself

Freezer ii

[stoic island]

Should be fine?

[bronze lotus]

Thinking of swapping the 3 fans included on my KINGPIN aio with 6 of these in a push/pull

https://www.newegg.com/iceberg-thermal-teal-case-fan/p/1YF-0184-00049?Item=9SIAT5SDSB8895

Thoughts?

[fossil cedar]

Fans on both side of aio basically do nothing, and I've never seen those fans before but if you wanted to replace, I'd just to arctic p12s

[bronze lotus]

@fossil cedar Why so many people hype the push pull if it does nothing? Not doubting your statement, am curious. Also liking these fans because of high static pressure

[fossil cedar]

I haven't seen any hype about it tbh

[bronze lotus]

@fossil cedar arctic p12 2.2 mm H2O and the icebergs are 4.4

All good. I guess we read in different places

lol

[fossil cedar]

If you want to see, look at the gamers Nexus vid on the ek elite rgb

[bronze lotus]

figured I would post here to see if there was mass hate for those fans cuz just ordered 18 of them for the mines

[bronze lotus]

thanks I will check it out

[fossil cedar]

That's on push pull btw, i haven't seen anything on the fans and don't have time to research them now

[bronze lotus]

@fossil cedar oh yeah wouldn't expect anyone to do research for me

[cunning bobcat]

hiiiiiiii i'm back.....i'm looking for a monitor, with a price below 150€......to go with my new pc

😢

[fossil cedar]

What country?

[cunning bobcat]

france of course XD

[fossil cedar]

Lmao how am i supposed to know, many countries use euro

[cunning bobcat]

[tribal condor]

hey all i need help finding a compatible thunderbolt 3 hub with rj45 and dual display. the laptop im using is the newegg item# 9SIAKVUFUF0000 running Linux

[fossil cedar]

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZLrRsY/viewsonic-vx2458-p-mhd-236-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-vx2458-p-mhd seems to be the only high refresh monitor for 150 in france

[fossil cedar]

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Thunderbolt-Windows-Laptops-Transfer/dp/B07R5CB6HY this should do

[tribal condor]

@fossil cedar checking it out rn, thanks!

[cunning bobcat]

thks as always @fossil cedar

[tribal condor]

@fossil cedar , specs say not compatible with Linux

[fossil cedar]

No prob

[fossil cedar]

I don't see how it could he linux compatible

Hmm it does seem to say that idk why tho

[tribal condor]

i mean there are websites that share a list of top docks for linux, i just dont know if they will be compatible to the asus laptop

[fossil cedar]

Should be as long as it's thunderbolt 3 anyway pretty sure it's backwards compatible with tb 4 as well

[tribal condor]

how do I send links?

googling "5 Best Thunderbolt Docks That Work on Linux" give me a list of 5

[fossil cedar]

You need to level up, it's just to avoid spammers

[tribal condor]

which of these 5 would work best with that Asus laptop

[fossil cedar]

Addictive tips.com?

[tribal condor]

no thunderboltlaptop . co m

well either I guess, I will look at that site too

[fossil cedar]

All of those look fine, whichever is cheapest and fits your needs

[tribal condor]

ok great thanks for checking this out for me!

[fossil cedar]

Np

[hallow glen]

Is this a good build for light gaming? GPU is probably gonna be 2070 or 3060. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qP7zbh

[earnest olive]

not a fan of the case or psu

rest looks ok

are you specifically looking for a case to put a DVD drive in

if so that's probably fine

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PVzZxr/corsair-txm-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020132-na

I'd grab this psu it's on an insane sale rn

[clever nova]

thats the one i bought too

[little osprey]

does anyone know where i can sell a pc

[clever nova]

r/hardwareswap

is one place

[little osprey]

is the x53 kraken a bad cooler?

[clever nova]

other people told me it was a little overpriced, and recommended me the gallahad or ek aio instead

[stoic island]

X53 overpriced for its performance

[desert gulch]

Does x53 use asetek pump?

[stoic island]

it does

[fossil cedar]

Basically all aios but arctic, ek, lian li and deepcool are asetek

[shrewd sparrow]

artic has really good tech right?

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Their aios? Yeah they're good

The best

[shrewd sparrow]

shame they're less used

just gotta make some rgb ones and kids will love it

[little osprey]

Bruh-MO

[shrewd sparrow]

ek and lian li make aios now?

[fossil cedar]

They have an rgb one

[shrewd sparrow]

fr?

[fossil cedar]

Have for a while

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[shrewd sparrow]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-Multi-Compatible-All/dp/B08WR9SFTD/ref=asc_df_B08WR9SFTD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=524568852471&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=8807804865897213604&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007767&hvtargid=pla-1271990294865&th=1

that price

wowza

[jagged ember]

good

[shrewd sparrow]

does it have a lga 1700 bracket

[fossil cedar]

It should come with one, if it doesn't arctic will ship one to you

[shrewd sparrow]

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-PH-GO240T30_DAG01-Infinity-Aluminum-Anthracite/dp/B09B2KBSH3/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=phanteks+aio&qid=1638312392&qsid=135-2201681-6844606&sr=8-3&sres=B092G4XR1K%2CB092G2SJDF%2CB09B2KBSH3%2CB082DYR131%2CB07N1N8R9N%2CB08BV4XVV8%2CB09D4CQW37%2CB08KKCLJY7%2CB0842Z9WYG%2CB07TYR1P1G%2CB07MW7VKJS%2CB08KKF38XV%2CB088T3VMKK%2CB09D4CB2V1%2CB09D49DLBX%2CB088T78MJT&srpt=ELECTRONIC_COMPONENT_FAN

this is an amazing looking aio

[jagged ember]

idk about that one

[fossil cedar]

To each their own

[jagged ember]

but arctic good price to performance

[shrewd sparrow]

i like the tube sleaving on arctics

https://www.amazon.com/EK-EK-Vardar-High-Performance-Cooling-Computer/dp/B08WC58NKZ/ref=asc_df_B08WC58NKZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=507731305156&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4654380285522689695&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007767&hvtargid=pla-1212015602633&th=1

but this ek aio

so clean

imo circular asetek pumps are ugly

[little osprey]

yea i feel the same way

i really like how the evga clc's look

[fossil cedar]

Ek basic isn't as good as the ek rgb btw afaik

[shrewd sparrow]

thats annoying

[fossil cedar]

I don't know how much worse but yeah just to keep in mind that's what I've heard

[tribal condor]

as in BMO? thats me as a 7ft BMO cosplay : )

[minor stratus]

Any tech gurus around that might be able to answer a quick question?

trying to figure out if 32 gig DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Timing 18-22-22-42 is it better than 32 gig DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Timing 16-19-19-39 .... don't know if the Latency would equal the two out or not since one is 16 and the other 18

[little osprey]

lmao that's pretty cool

[vague oracle]

What CPU will you be using it with and for what use?

[wet nymph]

Ryzen 5 2600 @ 3.90GHz
16GB DDR4 3200mhz RAM
GTX 1650 4GB
512GB ADATA SSD
MSI B450M GAMING Mobo
500W Gamdias PSU 80+ Bronze
Rainbow Flash G3 TG RGB Case
AMD Stock Cooler

Total: $932 Would like a more knowledgeable second opinion

[vague oracle]

What’s the question?

[obsidian wigeon]

932 bucks?

no, big no

the psu is even bigger no

[wet nymph]

Oh, it was just recommended to me, but I have a few problems with it for the price

[obsidian wigeon]

the price is far too high for the parts

[wet nymph]

I suppose the question is, is it as overpriced as I think

[wet nymph]

Thanks

[minor stratus]

@vague oracle im going to be building the 12700k using a ddr4 motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme find something

im sure there's better prebuilts

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-tower-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-11400-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-raven-black/6476720.p?skuId=6476720

get this

899 bucks

but much better specs

i suggest addin some ram tho

[wet nymph]

Thanks man, my friend is taking recommendations and I wanted to make I wasn't just wrong in dismissing it

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme find the ram that works great with it and cheap

https://www.newegg.com/team-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820331354

@wet nymph

Just tell em to take the stock ram off

And put the kit in

[wet nymph]

It's a bit repetitive but thanks a ton for the tips Foxy. Its been a hot minute since I built my own (lower budget) PC and I'm glad I can help him out with his, so I definitely pass it along

[obsidian wigeon]

eh it's all good

[little osprey]

prebuilt recommendations?

[obsidian wigeon]

budget?

[little osprey]

i’d say $1800 and under

[wet nymph]

@obsidian wigeon I just realized that the overpriced pre-built charges $89 for 16gb DDR3...like wut

[obsidian wigeon]

kk

lol damn

89 for ddr3

[wet nymph]

I've seen gpu prices rn that are less overpriced than that lol

[obsidian wigeon]

@wet nymph https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala242-master/p/N82E16883360146R

i just found this lmao

better value than the lenovo

it's open box but still

[wet nymph]

That's an...interesting...build to say the least

[obsidian wigeon]

@little osprey if you don't mind open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali454-gladiator/p/N82E16883360038R

[obsidian wigeon]

ye, a cooler swap might be needed but as is it's okay

[little osprey]

oh yeah i got recommended this

[obsidian wigeon]

you can easily slap vetroo v5 or se-224xt

[little osprey]

there’s this one out of stock prebuilt that pato recommended

should i just wait

[wet nymph]

But the RGB cooler from the picture...what a shame /s

[obsidian wigeon]

well

no one knows when stock will return

so it's up to ya on waiting

[clever nova]

should i return these https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861
and then get these https://www.newegg.com/oloy-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821422

[obsidian wigeon]

do it

much better timings on the oloy

[clever nova]

@obsidian wigeon ik we were talking about this earlier but 16-16-16 😲

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

that's the best of c16 basically

[clever nova]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232438 or should i just go for these?

since 16 might be all i need

[obsidian wigeon]

i can't speak for you lol

it's up to you to decide

[clever nova]

so if all i do is game then i should do that 16. but if i do streaming as well then go for 16?

i mean 32

alright ill think about it thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

32 would give it the extra room

[clever nova]

is it hard to return stuff on newegg?

[frank stirrup]

Not really

[jagged ember]

I find it unnecessary for 32gb

16 is more than enough for a game, a discord and a stream

I'm more worried about my gpu not being able to push as many frames in game lol

[clever nova]

ok ill keep looking didnt find many with timing of 16-16-16

[frank stirrup]

Watching online class

[jagged ember]

Jesus

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

Im also listening to music

And discord is open

[clever nova]

but really thats it

dang

[frank stirrup]

No games tho

[jagged ember]

discord open, youtube playing 4k content, and also using virtual screen

[frank stirrup]

Wideus im using windows subsystem for android to listen to apple music

[jagged ember]

but why not just get itunes?

on windows?

[frank stirrup]

Lossless

Is not on itunes

[clever nova]

so wait are you recommending i might need 32 lol?

[frank stirrup]

No

16 is fine

[jagged ember]

he's running an android emulator thing

[clever nova]

gotcha

[frank stirrup]

I also have a whack amount of tray programs

[clever nova]

i still cant even find any 16gb with good timings i want

[clever nova]

being a little picky tho only ones i saw were black g skills

[frank stirrup]

Get ballistic 3600c16

[jagged ember]

gskill nice

or ballistix yeah

that has micron chip iirc

[clever nova]

i looked at all of them their timings were c 16-18-18

etc

[frank stirrup]

My 3600c16 ballistix

[jagged ember]

i don't know if that matters as much?

[frank stirrup]

3800c14 moment

[clever nova]

i think it does c 16-16-16- 30 something is what you want

its bdie or something?

[jagged ember]

well i checked mine

[frank stirrup]

Micron rev e

[jagged ember]

i think this is good

[frank stirrup]

On ballistix 3600c16

[jagged ember]

i'm not sure though

[frank stirrup]

Thats... something

[jagged ember]

oh, that's not what im supposed to look at is it

[frank stirrup]

3200 c16-18-18-18-38

[jagged ember]

this is the thing

[frank stirrup]

Yeah even the first pic gave that info

[clever nova]

im user adler lake cpu, so they recommended 3600 mhz cl 16 as the sweet spot, apparently performs just as well as ddr5

[frank stirrup]

Cpuz does mhz not mts

[frank stirrup]

Then get ballistix

[jagged ember]

do the timings even matter in that case?

[frank stirrup]

You can overclock it later for much better perf or if hate urself

[clever nova]

yea am looking at them most of them are c16-18-18 tho. probably just have to keep looking

[frank stirrup]

They can easily hit cl14

[clever nova]

https://www.amazon.com/OLOy-288-Pin-Desktop-Gaming-MD4U0836163BHWDA/dp/B08NP33CFY

found this onetho

[jagged ember]

what's wrong with 16-18-18 stock anyways?

that's OOS sadly

[clever nova]

@obsidian wigeon probably can explain it better than me

[frank stirrup]

Theres nothing wrong with 16-18-18-38

[jagged ember]

lol i'll take your word for it

[obsidian wigeon]

alder lake

lower latency the better

[frank stirrup]

Especially when ballistix can easily hit 3600c14 18-18-18-38

[jagged ember]

is 2 units lower really going to see that much of a performance impact?

[frank stirrup]

Literally changing 2 values

[jagged ember]

I'm genuinely curious

cause it's almost the exact same timings

[frank stirrup]

Lower latencies

Is better

[jagged ember]

but by how much?

is it worth actually spending all this time looking for it?

[frank stirrup]

And those numbers are read and write latencies

Not really

Too lil perf gap

[clever nova]

im just spending a lot of time because I am picky with how its going to look in the PC lmao

[jagged ember]

mm

[frank stirrup]

If you want a better kit thats worth it look for 3200c14 or 3600c14

[clever nova]

yea the c14s get pretty dang expensive tho

https://www.newegg.com/oloy-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821392

oh wai

thats pretty pog

[wispy wagon]

does freesync only apply to amd cards?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[clever nova]

thanks i found the jackpot lol

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/patriot-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820225144

[obsidian wigeon]

it can be used on nvidia aswell

[frank stirrup]

Enjoy

[wispy wagon]

oh thank goodness

[obsidian wigeon]

he wants white and rgb tho

[frank stirrup]

F

[clever nova]

thats also C-19

[obsidian wigeon]

so yeah

the oloy is the best

[wispy wagon]

i just found out abt the existence of it from a meme and

[frank stirrup]

Thats like cheap b die

[wispy wagon]

thought so

[obsidian wigeon]

4400mhz c19 is fast

[wispy wagon]

duuuude

thats sexy

[clever nova]

actually i think i want black RGB now lol

[hard badge]

Wrong chat

Fixed it.

[obsidian wigeon]

for nvidia, it needs to be done through displayport tho

not hdmi like amd

[obsidian wigeon]

hm, well non rgb is cheapest but black is cheaper than white still

[clever nova]

yea but i think im steering away from full white, and going more into black with white accents/rgb

[gaunt moat]

Ik it hasnt been long but my 3070 sold for 940 after shiping and taxes paid for and i have an Asus white 3080ti on the way should be here dec 20

[muted geode]

Do AIO coolers connect to CPU_FAN or CPU_OPT?

[frank stirrup]

Pump goes to opt

[muted geode]

Thx

[frank stirrup]

Fans go to cpu fan

[muted geode]

What happens if you plug pump into cpu fan?

[frank stirrup]

If you have only one cable coming from the aio it goes to cpu opt

[frank stirrup]

It wont run at full speed

[muted geode]

Gotcha

[frank stirrup]

Pump should always run at 100%

[muted geode]

Yeah I have one 4 pin fan cable and a 3 pin ARGB cable

[frank stirrup]

And fans variable

[frank stirrup]

Then it goes to cpu opt

[muted geode]

Cool thanks

[pallid path]

https://store.acer.com/en-us/27-aopen-hc2-series-curved-gaming-monitor-27hc2r-pbmiiphx is this a good monitor for a rtx 3070 and ryzen 7 5800x

[tight sorrel]

you could go for a 1440p with that setup

[fossil cedar]

I'd get a gigabyte m27q instead, it's 1440p and should be still on sale for 280

[pallid path]

I assume that would be better than what I’m currently looking at

[tight sorrel]

yes. the monitor you linked has less pixels than a monitor with the specs I suggested.

[tight sorrel]

this is what you need

[pallid path]

@tight sorrel @fossil cedar can I send u a dm of what I found because I really want a curved monitor and I think I found a good one

[fossil cedar]

Ah then get the gigabyte g27qc

Assuming you're in the us anyway

But ye

[pallid path]

GIGABYTE - 27" LED Curved QHD FreeSync Monitor with HDR (HDMI, DisplayPort, USB) - Black

This is the name of the one that I’m currently looking at because I really want a curved monitor

[fossil cedar]

There's no model name in there, can you dm it to me

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-27-led-curved-qhd-freesync-monitor-with-hdr-hdmi-displayport-usb-black/6462630.p?skuId=6462630&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA15yNBhDTARIsAGnwe0VC96Rbo1-9fHcffCvMe5iG30S7gjjP-HnGwfFw6lB8P3RPWzzikFwaAkiFEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[fossil cedar]

That's the g27qc yeah

[pallid path]

K so it’s the same monitor just curved

[fossil cedar]

Ehh not exactly the same, different panel, but it's still good

[pallid path]

K

It’ll work for hardcore FPS games I assume

[fossil cedar]

It will work for anything?

[pallid path]

Yea I just didn’t know about tearing and stuff like that

[fossil cedar]

Oh yeah you'll be fine, if you experience tearing you can turn on gsync/freesync

[pallid path]

K

Thanks for the help

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

no m27q????

[thorn heart]

How do I know if a motherboard needs a bios update to go from Gen 2 AMD Ryzen to gen 3?

[fossil cedar]

They wanted curved specially

[fossil cedar]

Depends how long it's been sitting on the shelf, best bet it to just get a motherboard with flashback tho

[little osprey]

pfft, they could just use a rolling machine to curve the monitor

[fossil cedar]

Ofc

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[pallid path]

I wish

[muted geode]

Is this correct?

[fossil cedar]

You don't want to daisy chain the power cable, you'll want to use a 2nd pcie cable if you have one

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/core-black-msi-gp-series-gp66-leopard-11uh-456-gaming-entertainment/p/N82E16834156031?Item=N82E16834156031&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-34-156-031-_-12012021

don’t know if i should recommend this for a friend

[clever nova]

so is the easiest way to get white cables for my psu, to just get white extension cables?

[frank stirrup]

Yes

[clever nova]

thanks any recommendations?

or they dont matter just pick a color you like?

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1W7-00AB-00006

[clever nova]

thanks

[clever nova]

https://www.amazon.com/Asiahorse-Customization-Sleeve-Extension-Supply/dp/B07C735N9C this is the same exact one right?

yea nvm looks like it

[frank stirrup]

Yep

[clever nova]

sweet thanks

[cyan plaza]

So the board I bought ya apparently jalf the comments are the same talking about the port

[fossil cedar]

Severe case of pebcak probably

[gleaming wadi]

I'm trying to swap out the black silent wings on my air cooler for the white shadow wings but didn't realize the size difference in the corner holes. Does anyone know a work around that'll let me thread the fan onto the cooler?

[little osprey]

Damn thats a cool video card

[stoic island]

Zipties should work @gleaming wadi

[lofty tundra]

How hard would it be to get my lga1700 bracket on and attach my cooler later whenever i receive the bracket?

Shouldnt be very hard right?

[stoic island]

It should just be a bracket

[silent notch]

Looking to build a budget PC ($300-$400) for my workshop. Need it to run programs like Lightburn, Affinity Designer/Photo and 3D printing software. Will a CPU with integrated graphics be able to handle that? Already have setup that I do all my initial work on, and don’t want to move it into my dusty shop. Just need this PC to be able to process the jobs to the equipment.

[stoic island]

It should be usable, just don't expect to be able to do much modeling on it, gonna guess it'll look something like this, although prob overkill
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wkRfYg

[strong raft]

evga psu? well, similar cable to what i'm running, lol. My cable goes from above GPU.
@fossil cedar I should know better, but have had the exact same setup since June w/ no issues 😅 . Still, next time I shutdown, I'll add the 2nd cable for piece of mind. 👍 Wish they didnt have the daisy chain piece hanging off anyways.

[muted geode]

Fair enough

[shrewd sparrow]

ah yes the most important tool in pc building

[odd crypt]

How come my pc posts but gives no signal?

[potent portal]

Check cables and input on monitor

[odd crypt]

Could it be due to pcie?

[potent portal]

Not likely if you're sure it's passing post

[odd crypt]

Its on the floor for a reason

I need to get a extension cord

But yea it turns on

Just no signal

Theres a orange light

[potent portal]

Turns on doesn't mean passed post. Your motherboard may have a series of lights near the top right that light up in sequence, or a LED that gives codes. If any of those get stuck, it's not passing.

[odd crypt]

Idk what i could have done wring tho

[potent portal]

Could be anything, but figuring out which light that is will help narrow it down

[odd crypt]

1 by the ram

[potent portal]

Right, there's typically 4 lights labeled cpu, ram, vga, and boot. Which one?

If it's boot then it passed post

[odd crypt]

Let me turn it off and open the thingy rq

I think it says dram

It does

[potent portal]

Ok, that's a start. Pull all the memory sticks out and try one stick in the second slot away from the cpu

With it off of course

[odd crypt]

Alr lemme turn it off

There both are put back in

No thump tho it just slid in

[potent portal]

It should click in place

[odd crypt]

It is in place

[stoic island]

Behind a screwdriver

[potent portal]

Toolless everything

[stoic island]

On the topic of that, clear cmos?

[odd crypt]

Cmos?

[potent portal]

Try one stick at a time like I said, if one is bad it'll stop the whole thing

[odd crypt]

Alr

Still orange lemme try the other stick

Still orange

[potent portal]

Ok. There's a flat battery on the board, usually near the gpu. Unplug the computer, pop that out, and wait 5-10 minutes before putting the battery back

[odd crypt]

@potent portal that

?

[potent portal]

Yeah, on the left under the gpu

[odd crypt]

The very very small thing

[potent portal]

It says "battery" below it

[stoic island]

This is what the cmos battery looks like

Pull the metal lever thing and it'll just pop out

[odd crypt]

It would smack my gpu

So i should probs take it out

[potent portal]

Yeah good idea

[odd crypt]

I dont see 1

Unless im blind

[potent portal]

It's on the bottom

[odd crypt]

Its out

Now i leave it to rest?

[stoic island]

Is the PC unplugged from the wall?

[odd crypt]

No

[stoic island]

Unplug the PC from the wall

[odd crypt]

I unplugged the conector and the extension cord

[potent portal]

That works, as long as the power is cut

[odd crypt]

Ok

Ping me when ready

[shrewd sparrow]

Don't need screws if you have zip ties

[stoic island]

Can't really ziptie m.2 drive >:P

[potent portal]

There's toolless m.2 slots

[stoic island]

true, but most just need a screw

no easy place to ziptie it in

[shrewd sparrow]

Imma do it next build

Watch me

[potent portal]

Should be good to put it back in and plug everything in again

[odd crypt]

Alr

Its now not wanting to go back in

Lmao

[potent portal]

Make sure the side with lettering is facing you like in mr1111s pic

[odd crypt]

So facing the cpu way

[potent portal]

The only thing I haven't seen become non-toolless is the mobo and I'm sure it'll be done eventually

[potent portal]

Like here

[stoic island]

I know there were old cases where you would just slide in the mobo tray, but not the whole mobo

[shrewd sparrow]

Ik where rhe standoff screws are and one of the m.2 slot is

This is gonna be fun

[desert gulch]

I'll just drill some extra holes for it, ez

[shrewd sparrow]

Zip tying a m.2

[odd crypt]

Its not going in

[stoic island]

you have to kinda slide the battery in

[odd crypt]

So i push into t

It

[stoic island]

like angle it like this and it should go in pretty easily

shouldn't need much force behind it

[odd crypt]

Oh

I had to click it in

Ok

Okay all put back together

Still the same

Orange

@potent portal

[potent portal]

Just in case press down on the ram sticks more and see if they move or click in. They can take a good bit of pressure.

[heavy kraken]

nice pc

[odd crypt]

Seems pretty pushed down to me

[odd crypt]

Thanks i just built it

[potent portal]

Well I'm about to pass out from this fever so I need to log off here

[odd crypt]

Hm okay

@stoic island i saw something on flushing it

[stoic island]

hm?

[odd crypt]

Flushing its power

[stoic island]

Clear cmos is basically power cycling

That's what its supposed to do, anyways

@odd crypt try reseating the CPU now

check the pins just in case when you take it out

[odd crypt]

Only dram shows up for orange tho

[stoic island]

Yes, bad CPU contact could also mean IMC would have issues

[odd crypt]

How would i take it out

[stoic island]

take the cooler off

[odd crypt]

Idk how i would the things a tank

[stoic island]

It's probably just held down by 2 or 4 screws

[odd crypt]

More

Blurry

[stoic island]

gonna take a pic from u12s manual because Noctua documentation good, but

[odd crypt]

K

[stoic island]

After the cooler is off, there is a lever next to the socket (for am4 and lga115x and lga1200 and lga1700 and some others) and that will be how you release the CPU itself from the socket

[odd crypt]

Yea

Thermal paste on top

@stoic island

[stoic island]

ye?

[odd crypt]

I took it out and re put it

[stoic island]

No pins looked bent, correct?

[odd crypt]

No

[odd crypt]

@stoic island i reput it together and still orange

[stoic island]

sad

tried other stick yet?

[odd crypt]

Both

Yup

[stoic island]

wack

[odd crypt]

Ik

Irdk what ti do

[stoic island]

what cpu mob gpu ram etc?

[odd crypt]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cJ88W3

[stoic island]

is the ssd in M.2_1 or M.2_2

[odd crypt]

There should be a heatsinker for 1 right?

[desert gulch]

ah yeah cause 10th gen

[stoic island]

ye but anyways

[desert gulch]

well is it in the one closest to cpu or near lower of board?

[stoic island]

that psu is making me sad but it should at least boot

[odd crypt]

Bottom

[desert gulch]

ok good

[odd crypt]

Cause the heatsinker is the top 1 i think

Thats heatsinker i didnt put it in there

[stoic island]

good

check power cables again, might as well, main one is to check the 24pin

24pin is a pain to completely get in

[odd crypt]

Its in

[stoic island]

Its just that looking at the parts, the part I am most likely to blame is the PSU

[odd crypt]

Was it confirmed that it could be terrible?

I bought it at the time of last years Christmas

Yes it takes a while to get parts

[stoic island]

Yes

like
https://youtu.be/EmeFRtoiIrQ

At least its not blowing up

[odd crypt]

Yea 😭

[stoic island]

But I wouldn't trust it

[desert gulch]

yeah

should atleast post tho

[stoic island]

but it could also just be so poorly made it doesn't work properly

It's just not out of the question when we're talking about a PSU like this

[desert gulch]

true

[stoic island]

but well, it's just a easy target because of how bad it is

[odd crypt]

I mean what if its not the psu tho?

I could ask my mom to buy me a new psu

[stoic island]

That's what we're not sure on

[odd crypt]

Ares isnt returnable tho cause its been a 1 year already

[stoic island]

could get a CX550 for 50$ for now

[desert gulch]

30 bucks with rebates on wegg

[stoic island]

oh nice, but rebates weird

[desert gulch]

yeah

but may as well, cant hurt to try

[stoic island]

well, it definitely doesn't hurt, the aresgame unit is really bad anyways

but need to try to deal with other things in case PSU is not at fault rn

@odd crypt Is everything else still within warranty?

[odd crypt]

Some of the stuff was just bought

[stoic island]

What isn't?

[odd crypt]

The power supply

Cpu i thino

[desert gulch]

psu looks to be under warranty atleast

comes with 5 year warranty

[stoic island]

lmao

[odd crypt]

Oh lemme check amazon

[stoic island]

Wouldn't go through amazon

and well, who knows if aresgame would actually fulfill it xD

Amazon usually only deals with returns within the one month window or so

[odd crypt]

Yea oh well i really domt know what to do

Anything else that could be linked up to dram?

[stoic island]

It's unfortunate, but at least you could try to see if amazon would take the return

[desert gulch]

mr1 you went thru reseating ram and stuff?

[odd crypt]

Its been 1 year i checked it said it cant

[stoic island]

Well, most of the dram options are out, so ignoring that for the time being is our policy atm

[stoic island]

yeye

[desert gulch]

aight

[stoic island]

reseat cpu too just in case

[desert gulch]

good

[odd crypt]

Got thermal paste on my fingers lmao

[stoic island]

Should be able to clean it off with a paper towel

[odd crypt]

I did

[stoic island]

But well, its harmless

[odd crypt]

Could i try to flush the power out?

I saw something on reddit avojt that@stoic island

[stoic island]

You could, but that's also what clear cmos is lel

[desert gulch]

wdym flush power out?

yea thats cmos reset

when you pulled the lil battery out

[odd crypt]

Oh

[stoic island]

Because what clear cmos does is take out both power sources, forcing the mobo to run out of power, and therefore the cmos flash chip with bios settings would be cleared and reset to default settings

[desert gulch]

ooh something im wondering

[odd crypt]

It did say no signal when i tryed to post but ehh

[desert gulch]

so if i turn off auto sync time on windows, does it use cmos battery when unplugged from wall?

[odd crypt]

This is really mind rattling

[stoic island]

Probably

there's a clock generator somewhere on the motherboard

[desert gulch]

i ran windows on non auto sync for a whole year, ended up being 2 minutes off after a year

and i had reset cmos in that timeframe

which was interesting

i used jumpers but still impressive

[odd crypt]

?

[stoic island]

just a motherboard thing that exists

[stoic island]

No post would mean no display, so we're at a sad spot at the moment

[odd crypt]

True

[stoic island]

check eps12v, which is CPU power, top left of board, once again.

[stoic island]

Sometimes connectors look plugged in when they physically aren't, so could check it and push it in further if need be

[clever nova]

is the msi gaming trio Z a good model 3080?

[odd crypt]

It pushed in

I heard it

Now do i try and pist?

[stoic island]

Sure

[odd crypt]

Still orange

[stoic island]

sad

[odd crypt]

Yup

My brother said he knows someone around here

[abstract ridge]

kind of
not the best

[clever nova]

darn finally found someone willing to trade up to 3090 but yea gaming trio z wasnt my first choice, also been used for gaming/mining for 2 months

[stoic island]

If its a good price, nothing really wrong with it

It's definitely not the worst

pretty decently good model

[odd crypt]

So what are the last choices?

[stoic island]

last choices? don't trust anything and look at everything again, assume everything is broken and work from there

[odd crypt]

Eh, my brother said that he has a friend around here that is into pcs and such so.

[clever nova]

do you think trading to a 3090 FE for msrp diff is a way better deal?

[odd crypt]

Plus its kind of late now

[stoic island]

as in getting a 3090 FE for MSRP? that's great

[stoic island]

Welp, wake up tomorrow with a fresh perspective, that can help

[odd crypt]

Irdk i built everything from memory of watching the same how to build a pc and that lead up to this

[stoic island]

Always could've missed something small, whatever that is, I can't really say

[odd crypt]

Could i call you tomorrow? Ill share my camera so maybe u can try and look.

[stoic island]

Well, I probably won't be available for a call, but I'll be around to chat throughout the day.

[odd crypt]

All good ill hopefully be able to work with that.

[stoic island]

Just gotta hope, afterall, no matter how much troubleshooting you do, you can't make a component un-die

It's both the most difficult choice and the easiest option to pick at the same time, but you always have to consider maybe the CPU or the motherboard or the ram is dead on arrival, maybe all of the above.

[odd crypt]

Thats why hopefully my brothers friend could tell me why after im done troubleshooting out of ideas

[stoic island]

Hopefully

I'm distrustful of the PSU still just because of the unit, but yea, the first thing to check with support for would be the memory

[odd crypt]

Yea.

[lofty tundra]

What do you do with ssds when you have mutiple ssds and installing windows so that it goes on the correct ssd.

Like i understand with hdds you just unplug the sata but since ssds are actually attached to the board how to do make sure it goes on the correct ssd without any problems or weird formatting. Or do you just install it after?

[strong raft]

hey again. Well if I was being really cautious, I'd srsly unplug/remove all but the one drive I wanted to install to. Can go into bios and set a certain drive to boot from 1st, but better safe than sorry. stuff happens!

[lofty tundra]

So get everything running with drivers etc then install the other ssd? @strong raft

[strong raft]

You're reinstalling windows, or am I misreading? Oh wait, yeah. That's the safe bet, no accidentally installing drivers/programs to other drives because (re)installing an OS is tense to me, lol.

[little osprey]

can somebody find a good prebuilt for 1400 aud

[clever nova]

Would you guys rather have a 3080 gigabyte eagle or a 3080 msi gaming x trio both LHR

[frank stirrup]

Eagle

[mossy venture]

Isn't the gaming x trio a decent model?

[frank stirrup]

Decent

Not good

[mossy venture]

Isn't eagle a 2 fan with meh pads?

Nvm

Is it 2 fan on lower models?

Could've sworn eagle was 2x

[clever nova]

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

Assuming same price gaming x trio

[fossil cedar]

Eagle is a lower level entry card afaik, gaming x trio is better

[frank stirrup]

Fr?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[clever nova]

They are not the same price msrp for eagle 980 msi gaming trio a 1200

[fossil cedar]

Gaming x trio id good

[fossil cedar]

Those msrps mean f all only price that matters is a price you can find in stock

[frank stirrup]

I thought only the msi suprim cards were gud

[clever nova]

I can trade to either at msrp

[fossil cedar]

They are

[fossil cedar]

Wdym?

[mossy venture]

Sounds like they have a gpu and is doing msrp diff in trade

[stoic island]

If those are the prices, trio isn't worth 300$ more

[fossil cedar]

Ya they're trading down from a 3090, started dming me

[hard ferry]

Is a 5900x and a 3070 good or should I go up to an 3080

[tight sorrel]

3080 is a better fit

3080ti even more so

[hard ferry]

Ok thank you

[lofty tundra]

It would be installing the OS for the first time on new build but yeah i'll just put it in after.

[serene hedge]

Can a micto ATX mobo fit in an ATX mid-tower case?

[worn wave]

Yes

[serene hedge]

ok, good. I can get the case i want then

@worn wave Which is this thing

it's an ATX mid tower

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-simpsons-kill-it-its-a-monster-groundskeeper-willy-gif-21953220

[serene hedge]

it's better than that "High airflow" case i wanted to get

[fossil cedar]

I really doubt it

[serene hedge]

It's not a bad case

[fossil cedar]

Theres no airflow and i can almost guarantee bad build quality

[serene hedge]

i'm not going to put a GPU in it lol

just a 5600G

[fossil cedar]

So

[serene hedge]

so what?

[fossil cedar]

Doesn't mean having airflow is bad lol, and the build quality of the case still gonna be bad most likely

[serene hedge]

ok, fine. I'll pick another case

@fossil cedar Is this better?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[serene hedge]

better airflow?

and better build quality?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[potent portal]

Build quality still isn't great on that one but better at least

[fossil cedar]

It's fine and probably way better than the plastic oven from before as well as having rgb and being cheap so

[serene hedge]

also is G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB good?

i'm going to use it for the Ryzen 5600G

[potent portal]

Which one exactly? There's like 20 models

If you have a link that's perfect

[serene hedge]

hold up

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231977?Item=N82E16820231977 @potent portal

[potent portal]

3200c16 is bottom of the barrel, barely usable and will limit your CPU and graphics

[fossil cedar]

Meh and overpriced

[serene hedge]

3200Mhz is recommended for 5600G

[serene hedge]

this is a budget build, of course it's going to be TRASH

[potent portal]

No that's just the officially supported jedec speed

[fossil cedar]

No it's the if it can't run 3200mhz it's faulty

[potent portal]

It can do up to 4000

[fossil cedar]

You can get 3600cl16 for the same price,

[serene hedge]

plus i'm using honey, and it's less than $40 ish

[jagged ember]

if it's budget

there's even more reason to get a better kit for the same price

budget does not mean buy bottom of the barrel stuff lmao

and it also doesn't mean buying overpriced

[fossil cedar]

@serene hedge https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

[serene hedge]

but, my budget build is like $462

[fossil cedar]

10$ more

[jagged ember]

thats way better for like 10 dollars more

[jagged ember]

even more reason not to pay overpriced

[serene hedge]

not for me lol

[jagged ember]

are you in the us?

[potent portal]

If it's not for you all the more reason to make it good if you value your relationship with the person it is for

[serene hedge]

That box is a promo code from Honey

[fossil cedar]

60$ is still overpriced for 3200cl16

[serene hedge]

i started to use it and i'm saving like $52 on the build

[serene hedge]

*$58

[jagged ember]

it's basically 60 bucks

the point literally still stands

[serene hedge]

SO what RAM is better then?

[jagged ember]

this?

[potent portal]

This one

[jagged ember]

lmao

[potent portal]

3600c16 is much more usable and well worth the extra $10

[fossil cedar]

Still, if you really cannot afford the 3600cl16 ram, this will do but only if you really can't
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V8848d/oloy-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-md4u0836180bhkda

[jagged ember]

aw cl18 tho

which makes sense why that's a last resort

[fossil cedar]

Yeah last resort really

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/9IY_KlkQK1Q

[fossil cedar]

At least it's not 18 22 22 44 tho it's 20 20 20 40

[jagged ember]

oh nice

[potent portal]

15% better going from 3200c16 to 3600c16

[fossil cedar]

Definitely worth 15$

[jagged ember]

1% per dollar

[fossil cedar]

Very stonks

[jagged ember]

lol then there's me with my ram

[fossil cedar]

Normal 3200? Looks fine

[potent portal]

You should overclock that, could probably push 3600

[jagged ember]

oh someone was saying the final timings were off

or something along those lines lmao

I think i'll plug my ram into the ram oc calculator

[serene hedge]

i mean, the ripjaws is +200Mhz faster

[fossil cedar]

Anything other than primary timings is controlled by the motherboard btw soo

[jagged ember]

cause i have no idea what timings would work for 3600

[jagged ember]

o

[fossil cedar]

They don't work very well, what die do you have?

[jagged ember]

uhhh

[potent portal]

What brand is it?

[jagged ember]

g.skill

i can try running thaiphoon

[fossil cedar]

What's the 402 code?

[potent portal]

Sweet, there's a version number on the sticks that says the die

[jagged ember]

oh i gotta go downstairs and see it then lol

hang on

[fossil cedar]

Taiphoon guesses at best lol but if it says samsung b die it's c die

[potent portal]

Yeah g.skill uses c-die a lot in those lower end kits too so good chances you can do 3600

[jagged ember]

ree i need to take it out to see

[fossil cedar]

Samsung c die

[jagged ember]

is this good?

[potent portal]

Yep c-die

I think I had the exact same kit too

No wait... Almost the same

[serene hedge]

i'm getting this RAM. That V series RAM is what i have, only a different color

[jagged ember]

I am in the bios

[fossil cedar]

It's not

[fossil cedar]

You're on amd ye?

[jagged ember]

yes

[serene hedge]

wdym it's not the same

[jagged ember]

lmao I can try ddr4 6000

let's go

[potent portal]

It will fail to train

[fossil cedar]

Soc voltage to 1.1v
1.35v vdimm and
3600mhz
18 19 19 40

[jagged ember]

mm okay

[clever nova]

i saw some 4400 c15 bdie the other day for like 100

[shrewd sparrow]

I'm gonna zip tie an m.2 drive on Saturday guys

[potent portal]

Dang, good deal

[jagged ember]

wait

[fossil cedar]

3600cl16 or 3600cl18 isn't the same as 3200cl16

[jagged ember]

I gotta turn off xmp right

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ram prices have turned down a good bit

[potent portal]

Leave it on

[jagged ember]

ok

[clever nova]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07KXLFDL6

[potent portal]

It tightens sub timings too

[clever nova]

the look doesnt match my build tho so i passed and went for 3600 c14 bdie

[jagged ember]

I am unsure how to set voltage

[potent portal]

Voltage is on the main OC screen

[jagged ember]

actually

is the first entry and the highlighted entry the ones I have to change?