#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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3200c16 not the greatest to be used with zen 3

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not that ram is that expensive in general

viral ore
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you just gaming on it, or do you need it for other purposes

desert gulch
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Yeah and 32 gigs of ram being your reasoning for the system being good makes no sense since good 32 gig kit of ram is like $140

shrewd sparrow
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Ig

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Just building is hard

sleek ore
stoic island
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it's also a x570 pro4 but eh

viral ore
desert gulch
stoic island
sleek ore
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nope

viral ore
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bc thats the difficult part rn

desert gulch
sleek ore
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yeah

shrewd sparrow
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I could add another 32 rn that's the thing

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I have a kit with the same stats

stoic island
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pro4 not great

viral ore
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lots of people are buying prebuilt systems so they dont have to go gpu hunting

shrewd sparrow
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I could have 64gb

stoic island
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the thing is, do you really need it

shrewd sparrow
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I could

viral ore
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if you are dead set on building it yourself, you need to get a gpu. are you in the US?

stoic island
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could just get a faster kit since its zen 3

stoic island
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prob go for AMD thursday drops

viral ore
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i would start by getting the newegg app and turning on shuffle notifications

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that way you will get a notification to select gpus you would want to buy

sleek ore
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I don't even know when I can buy this thing

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or even if I can

viral ore
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is it a budget issue?

desert gulch
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That's the difficult part

sleek ore
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no im 14

viral ore
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ahh

sleek ore
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and I haven't asked my parents

stoic island
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If you're not buying it now, don't plan too far

sleek ore
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and im saving up money with twitch

stoic island
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market changes constantly

viral ore
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so you have 1500, and wanna spend in on pc, but need permission first

sleek ore
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yes

viral ore
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so you have a PC right now?

sleek ore
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gaming laptop

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which is also 1500

viral ore
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ok

sleek ore
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plus I have a limited edition xbox

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that I can sell

viral ore
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ic

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well, with the way the market is, you wouldnt be able to sell all that, then just immediately turn around and buy a desktop pc

sleek ore
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yeah I know

viral ore
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what do you have in savings if anything

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would it be enough for a gpu?

sleek ore
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I have made $408 with twitch savings and have a lot in my bank account

viral ore
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you should try to enter the newegg shuffle as often as its available

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roughly 3 times a week i think

sleek ore
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whats that

viral ore
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its neweggs method of distributing GPUs

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enter the shuffle, people are picked at random to purchase cards for normal prices

sleek ore
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okay

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I can sell my xbox for around $600 and my controllers too

viral ore
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also, check to see if you live near a microcenter

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dont worry about selling anything

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first

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secure GPU

sleek ore
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I don't use it anymore

viral ore
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well then

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i suppose list it on facebook marketplace

sleek ore
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I don't like that place

viral ore
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better than most places

sleek ore
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I like ebay better

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facebook market place has a lot of scammers

viral ore
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why would you like that better...

desert gulch
viral ore
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as if ebay doesnt?

viral ore
desert gulch
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I'd call them "a bit inflated"

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Yeah

sleek ore
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we have ran into many more fb scammers than ebay

desert gulch
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But compared to bestbuy they're scalped

viral ore
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did

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did you ship on facebook marketplace???

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its way easier to take advantage of an ebay seller than you think

sleek ore
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it was buying stuff

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not selling

viral ore
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and you went to pick up the item and?

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or

sleek ore
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it was shipped to our house

viral ore
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they were gonna ship it to you???

sleek ore
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well it wasnt but it said it was

viral ore
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yeah never do that again

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fb market is for in-person only

sleek ore
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it was my dad lmao

viral ore
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never ship or buy shipped things on fb

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unless you have beyond a shadow of a doubt that they wont scam you

sleek ore
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k

viral ore
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ive had 2 thongs shipped from people on fb and it worked out great, but i wouldnt suggest it to people who dont know what they are doing / dont know what to look for

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anyway

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get parents approval first

sleek ore
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2 thongs?

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ayo

viral ore
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ayo

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things*

sleek ore
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lol

viral ore
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ask parents

sleek ore
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ok

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im scared to lmao

desert gulch
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Haha I found my neighbor selling something on there and he accidentally put free shipping on it, so I told him I'd buy it and I'd like he free shipping

viral ore
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i would be more scared to do it under their noses

sleek ore
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well im definitely not gonna do that

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I just have to find the right time to ask

viral ore
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fair

desert gulch
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I mean, the worst they can say is no, so yeah, take a shot, won't hurt

sleek ore
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nah the worst thing they can do is yell at me

viral ore
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there are worse things, just depends on the parent

sleek ore
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and say about have I have all these nice things already

desert gulch
viral ore
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i suppose you could start by selling the xbox if you never use it

desert gulch
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Yeah

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Market is great for those rn

viral ore
sleek ore
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aight I gotta go stream

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cya soon

viral ore
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bye

kindred pawn
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does anyone know why only one of my monitors are showing in nvidia's control panel?

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it's my second monitor, my main one is connected directly to the gpu

jagged ember
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is the second monitor connected directly to the gpu?

kindred pawn
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oh wait

kindred pawn
jagged ember
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check display settings

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hit Windows+P

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hit extend

kindred pawn
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i did

jagged ember
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okay, nothing still

kindred pawn
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it's been on extend

jagged ember
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look at the display section of settings

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does it show up there?

kindred pawn
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yes

jagged ember
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probably nvidia drivers being stupid lol

kindred pawn
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i went to display settings the only thing that shows is jthis

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i'll dm it to you

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you gotta turn on your dms

jagged ember
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yeah

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hang on

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go

kindred pawn
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that's what shows

jagged ember
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he still needs help with this for whoever's following up

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tried uninstalling & reinstalling nvidia drivers along with a restart

little osprey
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you guys think there will be discounts for computer parts on cyber Monday?

kindred pawn
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all my problems might literally just be my monitor settings

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the reason why i only have 1 monitor showing

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could fix all

hexed stump
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is the noctua fan a good choice? just need an upgrade for a cool and quiet fan

desert gulch
hexed stump
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yeah i was looking at that earlier

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probably gonna go with that

clever nova
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do you guys think 1000w is necessary on a OC 3080 and OC i7-12700k

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or 850 is enough

mossy venture
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With ocing I'd go for 1000 personally, but also depends how much you're ocing. modelbrand too

clever nova
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probably not much

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I usually do a safe OC, as I dont know much about it yet

clever nova
mossy venture
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Nah I'm not good in the psu department

clever nova
little osprey
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here again to ask for the third and final time. 12600k> any i7/ryzen7 for a 3060ti elite?

stoic island
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12600k is pretty good

little osprey
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so yes ?

kindred pawn
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guys i fixed it

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my main monitor was using integrated graphics instead of my gpu graphics

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hence why it wasn't picking up the monitor

little osprey
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12700k maybe?

obsidian wigeon
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nope

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no need

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12600k in games is as fast as 12900k basically

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so there's no need to hop to 12700k

mossy venture
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12600k is already enough for a 3090 @1440p. You'd be fine with a 10th gen i5 if you're gaming

little osprey
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what about streaming as well

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thisn is what i have rn

earnest olive
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you ought to be doing the streaming using NVENC anyways

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so cpu doesn't matter much

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850w is overkill but it's only $5 more than the 750w a-gf so why not

desert gulch
earnest olive
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oh

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i had my pricing options set to not include rebates so didn't see that

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whoops

rugged heron
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Anyone know a good gaming laptop for 1000-1300??

rugged heron
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Yeah

frank stirrup
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Gimme a min

rugged heron
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I built a computer like 9 months ago but it’s a desktop and it was around $2400… and I realized that I need a laptop since I like to travel a lot.

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I’m keeping the desktop at my primary home, but I’m going to use the laptop for gaming when I’m traveling

frank stirrup
rugged heron
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Thanks

forest nexus
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What could be the cause of my pc suddenly blackscreening and restarting in the middle of a game?
im playing the game fine and all of a sudden there is a wierd buzzung noise and the screen turns black
then it goes to my lock screen.

earnest olive
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are you overclocking anything

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@forest nexus

forest nexus
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just gaming

earnest olive
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open event viewer from windows search

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then open administrative events

forest nexus
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one sec

earnest olive
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look for an error named BugCheck or Display or nvlddmkm

forest nexus
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ok

earnest olive
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like those

forest nexus
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alright

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its blank

earnest olive
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prob loading

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or sometimes it gets stuck loading just click away then click back on it

forest nexus
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still nothing

earnest olive
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what you described is usually a result of GPU instability in my experience (i got those errors earlier trying to overclock my 3080 too much)

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take a screenshot of your whole screen

forest nexus
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ok

earnest olive
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sometimes screen would go black and audio would continue for a bit before turning into buzzing

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then system reboot

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sometimes screen would go black and then come back all messed up

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sometimes i would get a blue screen

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going to lock screen sounds like it rebooted

forest nexus
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Is this right?

earnest olive
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is there no bar at the left for you

forest nexus
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yeah

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there is

earnest olive
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click it from there then

forest nexus
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ok

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i cant see any of the errors you mentioned

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could it be this error?

earnest olive
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you may have to scroll a bit since event viewer tends to get full of random crap from windows being windows

forest nexus
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thats about when it happened

earnest olive
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kernel-power just indicates that there was a crash, look around it for clues

forest nexus
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i found one called display

earnest olive
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there we go

forest nexus
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just before the critical

earnest olive
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if you click it does it say display has stopped responding and has recovered

forest nexus
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yeah

earnest olive
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usually you get display if the screen goes black and then comes back

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nvlddmkm or bugcheck 0x116 if it goes black then crashes with buzzing

forest nexus
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this is what it says Display driver amdwddmg stopped responding and has successfully recovered.

earnest olive
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though sometimes I have seen display before a hard crash

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oh you're on radeon

forest nexus
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yeah

earnest olive
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may be different then, but yeah you are having a GPU problem of some sort

forest nexus
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oh no

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My drivers are up to date

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just checked

earnest olive
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follow these steps exactly:

  1. download DDU: https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
  2. download latest graphics driver
  3. once both downloads are done, disconnect from internet
  4. run DDU
  5. select GPU under device type on the right side, it will default to AMD. keep that
  6. press "clean and restart" on the left side
  7. once it reboots, run radeon driver installer. don't be surprised if pc boots with low resolution or monitors besides the primary possibly not displaying, since it's forced to run on basic compatibility drivers until you reinstall
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had to edit that a bit lol wrote it for an nvidia user first

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anyways same process

forest nexus
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ok

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thanks

earnest olive
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np, hope it fixes the problem

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once you finish that just try gaming and hopefully it won't crash again

forest nexus
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Ok thanks alot

earnest olive
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ping me tomorrow and let me know if it's fixed or not

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if that doesn't fix it it could be a hardware problem

forest nexus
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Alright

earnest olive
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I gotta get some sleep now good night

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hopefully you have warranty if it's hardware

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but DDU can fix this a lot of the time

forest nexus
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lets see

earnest olive
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good luck

fresh kettle
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Is that a good speaker?

little osprey
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I got Asus rog strix Z690-A mobo and I want to put 3th M2 ssd on it but I wonder does it disabling some sata ports ? Couldn't find anything about it 🤔

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Some old mobos were disabling sata ports when adding m2 ssd lol

shrewd sparrow
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Sometimes the best thing is the to just read the manual

little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
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Oh

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I got msi spatium 1tb for cheap so I think I good to go 👍

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Looks like only 4th m2 slot disabling some sata ports so 3 m2 ssd is safe

fossil cedar
little osprey
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I just have 3sata and 2 m2 for now and wanna add 3th m2. I think that's safe

strong raft
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Yeah, 1st one might be pcie 5.0 then the other 2 are 4.0 & you're set. More complicated storage setup than I'd want, lol.

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---10400 $165 vs 11600K $230? Currently the 2 best intel deals right now. Of course 11th gen required for certain features I suppose.

fossil cedar
weak yarrow
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is the amd gpu driver software good at auto overclocking and should i enable it with a 500w psu (i have a 7nth gen i3 so my harddrives prob use more power lmao)

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@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
weak yarrow
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i dont know how to oc sooo yeah. and maybe ill wait till i get a better psu

fossil cedar
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You can manually oc in the amd drivers or with msi afterburner

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What gpu is it?

weak yarrow
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4gb

fossil cedar
weak yarrow
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oh ok

weak yarrow
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r u typing an essay lol

fossil cedar
# weak yarrow well again, idk how to over clock so im kinda scared

Pretty simple find the overclocking section in the drivers or download msi afterburner and slide the power setting all the way to the right, up core clock in like 50mhz intervals until it crashed in a 3d mark timespy run(3rd demo on steam for free) then once it crashes, dial it back 25 until it's stable, then do the same with memory

strong raft
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LuL

strong raft
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You could try unigine heaven. That's a decent stress test

strong raft
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or not

fossil cedar
weak yarrow
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oh. i thought that was ajoke. wb cooling? i have an air cooled gpu

strong raft
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Most of us do. Could always put an extra fan closer to the gpu. I have a bottom intake aimed at mine, helps a bit.

strong raft
fossil cedar
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Change your fan curve if you need to

weak yarrow
fossil cedar
weak yarrow
strong raft
fossil cedar
weak yarrow
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or this

fossil cedar
strong raft
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I just mean maybe a day or 2 because cooler prices only vary so much. I now see these 240 or 360mm aios for $100ish, that's awesome. I'm so used to a normal HSF I gotta say.

fossil cedar
# weak yarrow or this

I'd just do the normal sliders like this since it's your first time, unless theres no mhz option, % for frequency would be a bit weird, I've always used afterburner but I'm sure you can just up the max state and it be the same, is that correct @frank stirrup

frank stirrup
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What card is that?

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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Rx480?

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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570

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I see

frank stirrup
strong raft
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Oh, a 120/140 aio would be enough, or also a plain HSF?

weak yarrow
strong raft
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Those gpu settings are confusing to me, lol.

frank stirrup
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Power and wattage same thing

weak yarrow
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ok and the v ram? @frank stirrup

fossil cedar
strong raft
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Good to hear. I'll just get used to cpu temps likely being 10 degrees higher than now. Ok, I'll check around. Thnx Pato. --Edit, maybe could use a thread here about network/internet. Router shopping too, was eyeing the Asus AX82U or AX88U. Currently Netgear R6400v2.

frank stirrup
weak yarrow
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its done

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lemme run 3d mark rq

frank stirrup
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Not too bad

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Decent perf bump

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Mine

strong raft
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is the demo what I should DL? Trying to get that new 3dmark. Haven't used it in ages.

weak yarrow
frank stirrup
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I run my rx570 at 75-80C load

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Lol

strong raft
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I've never seen 75C w/ 30% gpu fan lul Strix cooler w/ a case fan right below is beast.

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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Yes but you can oc 580s

weak yarrow
weak yarrow
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
strong raft
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aka bios flashing

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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I scored well above average rx580

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My rx570 is better than gold bin

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Literally the 15th best rx570 ever tested I has

vague oracle
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Gigabyte actually did something right

fossil cedar
uncut pelican
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Keep getting this code when trying to install storemi

shrewd sparrow
frank stirrup
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Its crap

frank stirrup
uncut pelican
shrewd sparrow
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should i taje advantage of my amp extremes oc headroom?

strong raft
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Just DL'd 3dmark, should I defrag before I run it?

shrewd sparrow
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i have had it for years

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but i only for fun

frank stirrup
shrewd sparrow
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ik there a lot of headroom

strong raft
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just because

fossil cedar
shrewd sparrow
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whats a power limit /s

frank stirrup
strong raft
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well apparently I can't run Time spy, just Firestrike , haha.

outer quarry
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lets go thank you everyone for helping me bought my pc

fossil cedar
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Np

empty cape
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Hey guys anyone here with the MSI PRO B550M PRO-VDH WIFI AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard that knows how to use the DP port on the mobo while having a ASUS Dual GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card DUAL-GTX1660S-O6G-MINI that runs ?

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I want to use 3 screens but I don't have DVI ports on my monitors and would need to use 2x DP and 1x HDMI

serene pulsar
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Anyone can help make this build better/cheaper

potent portal
empty cape
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ahhh I dont have that

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Thanks 🙂

potent portal
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Not many people do

empty cape
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would a dongle from HDMI (from monitor) to DVI (dedicated card) work?

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or should I buy another cheap card

fossil cedar
potent portal
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As long as it's either digital DVI or an active analog to digital converter

jagged ember
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isn't that most adapters?

potent portal
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You'd be surprised

empty cape
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yah.. i've had bad lucks with adaptors 😛

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Thanks for everything guys 🙂

serene pulsar
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@fossil cedar can you help make this better

jagged ember
potent portal
# jagged ember apparently so

DVI adapters in particular are tricky because you need to know what port you have, DVI-I or DVI-D, so you know which type of adapter you need. If it's Digital, a straight cable adapter works, but Interlaced needs an active converter.

fossil cedar
hexed stump
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guys im really debating on what case fan to get. I am deciding between the p12 pwm arctic or the noctua nf-a12x25, i looked at some reveiws on yt and they both seem great in cooling but the noctua's have less noise which one should i get?

little osprey
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gammaxx400 good for 9400f ?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
hexed stump
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yeah @fossil cedar i doo know that, ill most likely go with the p12s just for the price. i also do play with headphones so it wont be a big problem

little osprey
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What fan hub do you suggest i get if i plan on having rgb fans in the future

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
little osprey
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Or i just get p400a digital 🧠

fossil cedar
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Stonks

serene pulsar
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building pc under 800$ is yikers

mossy venture
fossil cedar
mossy venture
fossil cedar
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Ah ye

mossy venture
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even if its a bad mobo and cooling i doubt there will be any issues within a few years

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not like 11400 will overheat too terribly

raw crane
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hey im looking for a good AMD white motherboard if any of you guys have recommendations

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people are telling me Ryzen has better cpus rn so im converting to amd

jagged ember
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intel has replaced amd yet again in this section

raw crane
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ok then i will get an intel white motherbaord

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i have intel rn

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i just need good recommendations

jagged ember
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in both cases, I can't help lol

raw crane
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i havent got my cpu yet so

jagged ember
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mobos are like my glaring weakness

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Pato help

raw crane
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loll

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all good

fossil cedar
raw crane
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uh idk, a motherboard not over 300

fossil cedar
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I meant combined

raw crane
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i think thats a good price right?

fossil cedar
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300$ is redicolus

raw crane
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ok 0_0

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so more?

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500?

fossil cedar
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100-150 is plenty

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God no

raw crane
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oh

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oh

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LOL

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im

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yeah 100-150 for a motherboard

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LMAO im sorry i havent dived into my pc in a minute

fossil cedar
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I meant cpu and mobo budget together like, what are you looking for?

raw crane
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havent done research in a while either

raw crane
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or no

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i just want a good cpu, maybe i9 10k?

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theres i11 as well but i dont think i need it, thats a lot

fossil cedar
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What's your budget and for what use?

raw crane
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just for games, i play a lot of valorant and the game is cpu based so i want a better cpu, but not just for that reason

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mmm budgettttt.... maybe 500

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cpus are expensiveeeee 0_0

fossil cedar
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You in us?

raw crane
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mhm

fossil cedar
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You have a current system right?

raw crane
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yeah

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z490 a pro with an i5 10600k

fossil cedar
raw crane
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3070

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yeah

fossil cedar
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Oh okay that works too

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What ram?

raw crane
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ballistix 16gb ddr4

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3200 mhz i think

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or 3000

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i forgort

fossil cedar
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Okay nice

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What cooler you got on your cpu btw?

raw crane
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lian li aio

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
raw crane
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thank you!!!

raw crane
fossil cedar
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No problem

dusky wedge
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Anybody have recommendations for a build under $700? I have the storage and fans covered just needs the rest

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@fossil cedar

dusky wedge
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Yea

fossil cedar
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You won't like my answer but your best bet is to get a pc that i don't think fit's regular sized fans

dusky wedge
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Well I meant like I’m looking for the other parts

fossil cedar
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Yeah ik but best bet is to get a prebuilt

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You can wack the storage in it tho

dusky wedge
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Ah okay

scenic heath
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Any recommendations for a tripper monitor mount for 27 inch??

craggy sun
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Hey gents, building my 3090, 5900x build and just questioning if 1200w psu is gonna be enough? I’m just using an AIO so no fancy liquid cooling, should be plenty yeah? Thanks. I’m looking at the super flower leadex platinum 1200 on the cyber Monday deals if that helps or changes anything

craggy sun
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Really u both reckon 1000w is enough? Ok thanks much appreciated

fossil cedar
clever nova
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so i was recommended to use 3600 c16 ram with an i7 12700k, to really get some good use out of the cpu. Since i think it was originally meant for ddr5, but some ddr4 can be just as fast.

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i got this one

shrewd sparrow
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wait one sec

clever nova
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but its c-16-19-19

shrewd sparrow
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what will you do with it?

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@clever nova

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i just read this article

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how did this happen

clever nova
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play games

clever nova
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@shrewd sparrow so what i was recommended makes sense right?

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ddr4 3600 c16 is good for me

shrewd sparrow
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techpowerup says its the sweet spot

still roostBOT
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DankeyKang#7617 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

clever nova
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oops

clever nova
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the one i bought

shrewd sparrow
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if its 3600 cl16 you should be fine

clever nova
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msi pro z690

fossil cedar
shrewd sparrow
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oh yeah

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your fine

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that mobo will gladly take that ram

fossil cedar
shrewd sparrow
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fyi

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its a really good guide

clever nova
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ok thanks

clever nova
fossil cedar
clever nova
#

oh i do have an 850

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i selected the wrong one

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
shrewd sparrow
clever nova
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i would be fine with 16 gb tbh

shrewd sparrow
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my brother has it

clever nova
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ok cool thanks

shrewd sparrow
#

trident z neo scales really well

fossil cedar
clever nova
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yea those were the 2 i was looking at

fossil cedar
clever nova
fossil cedar
clever nova
fossil cedar
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Yeah

clever nova
#

thanks for the advice tho

fossil cedar
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Np

clever nova
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Would it be that much of a difference?

shrewd sparrow
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my brother got his kit to 3800mhz on a 5800x

fossil cedar
# shrewd sparrow oh thats strange

Nope very normal, there's 22 trident z kits(all variants, rgb, neo etc) with at least cl16 and at least 3600mhz and that's missing some as i just grabbed from pcpp

mild axle
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Can someone help me split £425 for psu, ram and gpu?

scenic heath
#

Any recommendations for a triple monitor mount for 27 inch monitors?

shrewd sparrow
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my brother has the exact same kit he linked

desert gulch
shrewd sparrow
desert gulch
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What'd he use to verify?

shrewd sparrow
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well i did it with him

desert gulch
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What'd u use to verify stability?

fossil cedar
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Unless you did testmem 5 extreme anta full run 0 errors not stable

mild axle
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What gpu, ram and PSU can i get for £425

stoic island
stoic island
mild axle
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Ye

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It should hopefully be enough

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Already have everything else

stoic island
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If you're really lucky, 3060 for around 300£, 2x8gb 3200c16 kit around 50£, tx-m 650w around 50£

mild axle
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Damn

stoic island
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If not, 1660 super or similar would do

mild axle
#

Would a 650w be enough to drive a 1950X and a 3060?

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(This pc is for blender)

stoic island
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Should be, don't remember 1950x being too power hungry

mild axle
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Ye

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I remember it the fx 9590 for some reason

shrewd sparrow
mild axle
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Ye

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And an rtx card is optimal

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But good luck getting one XD

stoic island
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Uh that doesn't stress ram

stoic island
strong raft
stoic island
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Sure I could get my neo 3600c16 kit to run at 3800, but it'd have to be something like 20-20-20-44

desert gulch
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Yeah I could get my ripjaws 5 kit to do the same, I'd just have to drop timing a bir

stoic island
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And primaries just refuse to tighten themselves beyond the xmp 16-19-19-39

desert gulch
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It's cjr so I'd prolly have to crank voltage too to get a higher speed

shrewd sparrow
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he got slightly better perf in bf5

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and thats all he cares

stoic island
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Well, tRP can be tightened, but anyways

desert gulch
#

Still not stable

shrewd sparrow
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maybe its the mobo

desert gulch
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I can almost %100 tm5 will throw an error if you run it

stoic island
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Could be placebo effect, could just be run to run variation in the tests they ran, could be unstable, etc

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Answer

mossy venture
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What's better, 3600c18 or 3200c16?

desert gulch
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Depends on cpu

stoic island
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Depends mainly on the platform, most of the time, 3600c18

desert gulch
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Yeah

stoic island
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But some platform will get more gains than others

desert gulch
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For like 10th gen or something, I'd go 3200cl16

shrewd sparrow
mossy venture
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Been curious about that for a while

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Thanks

desert gulch
shrewd sparrow
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is ryzens mem controller on cpu or mobo

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i forget

stoic island
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IMC all on the chip

desert gulch
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Yeah, in the name "Integrated Memory Controller"

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Wouldn't really be imc if it was in your chipset or something

stoic island
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I don't think any Northbridge are on the motherboard

desert gulch
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Yeah I don't know of any that are

shrewd sparrow
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i wouldn't think so

desert gulch
#

What's your fclk set to in bios?

shrewd sparrow
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i think there is one on the controller die on zen cpus

shrewd sparrow
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i did it like 4 months ago

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brothers pc too

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not mine

desert gulch
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It should be 1 to 1 with your data rate on your ram

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So for ddr, that's basically half of the main speed you'll see

stoic island
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1900fclk on zen 3 pretty common to be working so wouldn't be surprised there

shrewd sparrow
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yeah

desert gulch
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So 1900 for 3800mt/s on cpu

shrewd sparrow
desert gulch
shrewd sparrow
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ik the fclk was simple to set

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i think it is 1900

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i did like a lot of research before

desert gulch
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What guide did you use?

stoic island
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Never enough research :p

desert gulch
#

Ddr4 oc guide?

shrewd sparrow
#

very different from ocing my 6900k i can tell you that

stoic island
earnest olive
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you stability tested ram with cinebench and heaven...?

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do you stability test your new car by booking a flight to mexico

stoic island
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But cinebench, dunno

desert gulch
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Best ram oc stability test: a crap ton of chrome tabs

shrewd sparrow
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lol

desert gulch
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Oh, yeah that reminds me @stoic island , did you see my ping yesterday?

earnest olive
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one time i passed a ridiculously stupid OC through cinebench

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and then got a bsod opening firefox

desert gulch
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Lmao

earnest olive
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so firefox is more demanding stress test than cinebench i guess

desert gulch
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On CPU or dram?

earnest olive
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it was on that 8700K that wasn't stable at 4.5

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i passed cinebench at 5.3

desert gulch
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Oh ok

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Lol

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You try prime95 with it or nah?

earnest olive
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prime95 wasn't stable at 4.5

desert gulch
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Oof

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Prolly throttling on prime95 right?

earnest olive
#

naw

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cooling was fine

shrewd sparrow
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want to heat your room? run a oced 6900k on prime 95

earnest olive
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i put liquid metal on both sides of the IHS

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cpu was drawing 265W and chilling at 75C all core

shrewd sparrow
desert gulch
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Damn what cooler was on it? 360 rad?

earnest olive
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cheap little $55 240mm aio

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no case fans

desert gulch
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Damn that's surprising

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Side and front panels off?

earnest olive
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just a motherboard sitting on top of a chair lol

desert gulch
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Lol

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Sips have you used radeons adrenaline software?

earnest olive
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yes

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how do you think i beat your 5700xt smh

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scrub

desert gulch
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Have you seen the integrated stress test in it or nah?

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I'm wondering how good it is

earnest olive
#

i saw it

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never tried it

desert gulch
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Hmm

earnest olive
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ive heard its not good for stability

desert gulch
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I'm wondering if it's actually decent lol

earnest olive
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can test temps with it maybe

desert gulch
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Oh sad

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I don't wanna see temps

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If I don't see them, they don't exist

earnest olive
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who needs a case

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this was the 8700K setup lmao

desert gulch
#

I quieted and cooled my card down a ton tho using adrenaline's auto underclock tho, it's not bad tbh

#

I'm seeing like %5 drop in gaming performance and still consistent frame times

earnest olive
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just undervolt it yourself smh

desert gulch
#

But I'm using like 20w less power and it's noticeably quieter

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Nah I'm too lazy

earnest olive
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you have a 5600xt now

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it's not a real 5700xt unless it's at 110c junction

desert gulch
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True

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I mean 5700xt used to be a 2060 super basically

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Then amd got scared when they saw Nvidia and pushed out some drivers that boosted it a bit

earnest olive
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no im pretty sure 5700xt was always within spitting distance of a 2070S

shrewd sparrow
desert gulch
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I heard it used to be 2060s when released

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And not just because of throttling either

earnest olive
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i couldn't stability test it because the vrms would hit 110c after 30mins of prime95 even if i put fans on the vrms

shrewd sparrow
desert gulch
earnest olive
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when i sold the build i just left the cpu at stock

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🗿

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bruh

shrewd sparrow
#

also i saw this

desert gulch
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iBuyPower bad

shrewd sparrow
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never thought i'd ever consider it

desert gulch
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No good

shrewd sparrow
#

but those parts

desert gulch
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I don't care about the price

earnest olive
#

ibuypoopoo

shrewd sparrow
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i could my psu

desert gulch
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Trash build quality

shrewd sparrow
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well i could fix that

earnest olive
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why not just build it yourself

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zz

desert gulch
#

^

stoic island
shrewd sparrow
earnest olive
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fixing a bad prebuilt is more work than building it yourself

desert gulch
shrewd sparrow
stoic island
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Haven't bothered to join yet

desert gulch
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It's pretty neat

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It's like pcmr but no dumb ppl

earnest olive
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you can still build cheaper than that with a scalped gpu

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i already told you this

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zz

shrewd sparrow
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i don't wanna support scalpers

earnest olive
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but you're fine with prebuilt manufacturers scalping? lol

desert gulch
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Yeah lol

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I'd rather support one person than a large company

shrewd sparrow
#

ig

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but that 12600k for that price

earnest olive
#

just buy a used 2080ti for $950 off r/hardwareswap and beat that prebuilt

shrewd sparrow
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and the nice mobo

shrewd sparrow
desert gulch
shrewd sparrow
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i am curious

shrewd sparrow
#

i wish i had bought a 2080ti when the 30 series was announced

desert gulch
#

Was right when 3070 was announced and ppl with 2080ti's got scared

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Ye

shrewd sparrow
#

exactly

desert gulch
#

Mint card

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No damage

shrewd sparrow
#

i saw a 2080ti kingpin with an aio nearby for like 500 near me

desert gulch
#

Temps are awesome

shrewd sparrow
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was so tempted to trow it into my system and just play high res to give my cpu a break until i could a good cpu

earnest olive
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and you don't have to pay sales tax on r/hardwareswap

desert gulch
earnest olive
#

also pcpp has the cooler price wrong

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can't believe the PA120 is $33 rn

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feel like i should buy 10

desert gulch
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Yeah

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V5 is like 30 rn lmao

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Such a bad price when 224xt exists

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I hate that all the tech YouTubers reviewed the v5 and praised it

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Cause now price on it is a bit higher

weak yarrow
desert gulch
#

Integrated graphics

earnest olive
desert gulch
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F doesn't have them enabled

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Non f does

weak yarrow
#

like an rx570

earnest olive
#

not necessarily

desert gulch
#

I mean it depends on current pricing

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Sometimes non f is cheaper lol

shrewd sparrow
#

I'll consider it

weak yarrow
#

the f is 5 bucks cheaper

desert gulch
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Then get non f

shrewd sparrow
#

But I'd need to get a 2080ti

earnest olive
#

yeah id just get non-f if it's $3 difference

shrewd sparrow
#

Through some guy on reddit

earnest olive
#

you can use the igpu to drive second monitor for example so your rx 570 can focus on the game

desert gulch
#

Someday you may be grateful for having integrated graphics

earnest olive
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or if gpu breaks you have a backup

desert gulch
#

Exactly

earnest olive
#

or you can use intel quicksync

desert gulch
#

Ye

earnest olive
#

even a basic igpu is easily worth $3

weak yarrow
desert gulch
earnest olive
#

you can have the igpu from my xeon e3-1241v3 for $1100

desert gulch
#

Lmao

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Does it come in a white case with white aio and white Mobo? If so, you've got a deal

weak yarrow
#

do i need new ram? i have some basic 8 gb 2 stick kit x2. i think the hz is like around 2800

earnest olive
#

that chip doesn't even have an igpu

earnest olive
#

otherwise 3200c16 is only $50 now

weak yarrow
earnest olive
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should be able to oc to 3200c16

desert gulch
clever nova
#

is it fine to use a 6900xt with an intel 12th gen?

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

thats a lot of fans

earnest olive
weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

you can get a pack of 5 P12s for $30 btw

clever nova
#

I mean ik it will work but does it make a difference i should say

earnest olive
#

might as well just do that instead of going for the 140mms

earnest olive
weak yarrow
worn wave
#

What case do you have?

weak yarrow
#

they just suck

worn wave
#

You most likely don't even need full case fans anyways

weak yarrow
#

small mid-tower

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just fits a 120mm rad on the exhaust

earnest olive
#

you can fit 120mms in the front too

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i'd just save the $20 and get 5x 120mm instead of 2x140mm 3x120mm

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

lol 120s are fine

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my 3080 is pretty happy with 120s

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

doesn't matter that much

#

you got 2 3090s in there or what

#

i feel like the extra size of the 140s is gonna be blocked by the plastic anyways

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

lol

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you're fine...

#

62c is nothing

#

and an rx 570 is not a difficult gpu to cool

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

just save the $20 i doubt you will get any benefit out of 140mms in a case like that

weak yarrow
#

k

earnest olive
#

??? 62c is fine

worn wave
#

Cable management does not make your temps that much worse

weak yarrow
#

i might cut out the front bars off the grill

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

rx 570 thermal shutdown temperature is 94c

earnest olive
#

thermal throttle point is 90c

weak yarrow
#

i though tit was like 65-70

earnest olive
#

lol what

#

anyways you're nowhere near problematic temps

weak yarrow
#

my cpu only hits like 40c on my stock cooler so i thought that 60c was high for a gpu

earnest olive
#

just get the 120s

weak yarrow
#

other then that?

#

should i delete the top fan addon?

#

so 3 120s?

earnest olive
#

the pack is 5 120s for $30

#

rn you have 3 120s 2 140s for $50

#

same number of fans just all 120s

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and with your case's front panel there won't be a difference

jagged ember
#

p12s are good

weak yarrow
#

but that asus mobo cant support 5 fans only 3 + cpu

jagged ember
#

p12s have those adapters

earnest olive
#

you can daisy chain p12s

potent portal
#

P12 actually uses so little power you can use 7 on one header

jagged ember
#

daisy chain is the word

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but yeah you can run all 5 off one header

weak yarrow
earnest olive
jagged ember
#

yeah

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p12 isn't most fans

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it's cheap and very good performance

weak yarrow
jagged ember
#

right?

#

crazy fans

weak yarrow
#

ik

jagged ember
#

they're literally just better looking and cheaper noctuas

desert gulch
earnest olive
#

average fan headers supply 1A @ 12V so 12W

#

so yes

potent portal
#

0.14A each

weak yarrow
#

yeah i dont like the brown/cream color scheme noctua has goign on

desert gulch
#

Crazy

#

That's at full speed right?

jagged ember
#

my entire case is p12s lol

potent portal
#

Yes

earnest olive
#

12V @ 0.14A = 1.68W

desert gulch
#

I'm kinda surprised lol

weak yarrow
#

thats good

earnest olive
#

my little id-cooling fans are 3W each at full speed

desert gulch
#

My rule of thumb for a 1a header is like 3 fans

earnest olive
#

but at full speed they have the power to shake my entire desk

desert gulch
#

Bass boosted pc

potent portal
weak yarrow
potent portal
#

But again... P12 isn't most fans

earnest olive
#

one time i bass boosted the frog enemy from league of legends

#

i will never forget those croaks

#

💀

#

my soul left my body

weak yarrow
#

does artic cooling make good cpu coolers?

earnest olive
#

arctic liquid freezer ii is the best

potent portal
#

The liquid freezer II is absolutely fantastic for the price

#

Very few things can perform better and nothing in the price bracket under $200

earnest olive
#

only custom loops will beat it and then you're talking >$400

jagged ember
#

yes, they do

weak yarrow
#

well uhh i have to have air coolers. and i think they have to be under like 100-150 mm

earnest olive
#

thermalright pa120

jagged ember
#

or one aio

clever nova
#

@earnest olive thanks

potent portal
#

Hmm, does scythe fuma fit?

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

anyways you have an i5-10400 so you don't need heavy cooling

jagged ember
#

unless the case physically can't handle an aio or something

earnest olive
#

it should be able to do 240mm front aio

weak yarrow
jagged ember
earnest olive
#

or 280mm

#

but no need

jagged ember
#

gammaxx 400

#

done

weak yarrow
#

the bottom 140 nearly hits

earnest olive
#

nothing a dremel can't fix

#

🙂

jagged ember
#

true

potent portal
#

Oh it's a 10400, no need for anything more than $30 unless you want room to upgrade

earnest olive
#

but yeah liquid cooling a 10400 is a waste

jagged ember
#

it really is

weak yarrow
potent portal
#

Yeh that's a decent one

jagged ember
#

that'll work yeah

earnest olive
jagged ember
#

but aren't they usually a bit pricey

jagged ember
earnest olive
#

i put one of these on an i5-10400 and it was running 40C all core in cinebench r23 lol

#

with stock fan curve

#

so not loud

#

18C idle

#

17C room temp

jagged ember
#

p95 small ffts my 3600 on 3.9 all core

earnest olive
#

and yes power limits unlocked

jagged ember
#

maximum 81 Celsius

weak yarrow
#

i just like the way dark rocks look and im willing to pay a little more for it

jagged ember
#

gammaxx 400 v2

earnest olive
#

didn't try prime95 but probably would've been 50C

earnest olive
potent portal
#

It'll pretty much run near minimum speed so basically silent even under load

earnest olive
#

will you really be able to see it through here though

#

that window looks very tinted

jagged ember
#

ain't seeing nothing thru there

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

aggressive case

#

better turn it off before bed or it will attack you in your sleep

jagged ember
#

how can a case be aggressive

#

they're so nice

weak yarrow
#

looks like a thing at the subway that takes the cards and lets ya in

earnest olive
#

it's angry at you for not cleaning the dust out

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

it is going to beat you with the glass window

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

ah

#

it's just going to jump on you then

weak yarrow
#

its 50 bucks

weak yarrow
earnest olive
#

hey i've gotten tempered glass in $50 cases

weak yarrow
#

uhh problem

earnest olive
#

cougar mx330-g would like a word

weak yarrow
#

the dark rock is ligit 2 mm too tall

earnest olive
#

yeah

#

its a big cooler im not surprised it doesn't fit

weak yarrow
#

hammer time! lol

earnest olive
#

just buy the se-224-xt

#

holy crap it's $25 rn

#

O_O

#

oh actually it's 154mm tall

#

maybe too tall

weak yarrow
#

yikes

earnest olive
#

oh 3mm is fine

#

yeah just buy it then