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you just gaming on it, or do you need it for other purposes
Yeah and 32 gigs of ram being your reasoning for the system being good makes no sense since good 32 gig kit of ram is like $140
gaming, streaming, content creation
it's also a x570 pro4 but eh
any thoughts on how you plan to get a GPU?
Yeah, kinda a waste on that system
3200c16 2x16 kits are about 100$ right now
nope
bc thats the difficult part rn
Yeah
yeah
pro4 not great
lots of people are buying prebuilt systems so they dont have to go gpu hunting
I could have 64gb
the thing is, do you really need it
I could
if you are dead set on building it yourself, you need to get a gpu. are you in the US?
could just get a faster kit since its zen 3
yes
prob go for AMD thursday drops
i would start by getting the newegg app and turning on shuffle notifications
that way you will get a notification to select gpus you would want to buy
is it a budget issue?
That's the difficult part
no im 14
ahh
and I haven't asked my parents
If you're not buying it now, don't plan too far
and im saving up money with twitch
market changes constantly
so you have 1500, and wanna spend in on pc, but need permission first
yes
so you have a PC right now?
ok
ic
well, with the way the market is, you wouldnt be able to sell all that, then just immediately turn around and buy a desktop pc
yeah I know
I have made $408 with twitch savings and have a lot in my bank account
you should try to enter the newegg shuffle as often as its available
roughly 3 times a week i think
whats that
its neweggs method of distributing GPUs
enter the shuffle, people are picked at random to purchase cards for normal prices
also, check to see if you live near a microcenter
dont worry about selling anything
first
secure GPU
I don't use it anymore
I don't like that place
better than most places
why would you like that better...
Meh I wouldn't quote call them normal
as if ebay doesnt?
as normal as they will ever be
we have ran into many more fb scammers than ebay
But compared to bestbuy they're scalped
and did you lose your money / product?
did
did you ship on facebook marketplace???
its way easier to take advantage of an ebay seller than you think
it was shipped to our house
they were gonna ship it to you???
well it wasnt but it said it was
it was my dad lmao
never ship or buy shipped things on fb
unless you have beyond a shadow of a doubt that they wont scam you
k
ive had 2 thongs shipped from people on fb and it worked out great, but i wouldnt suggest it to people who dont know what they are doing / dont know what to look for
anyway
get parents approval first
lol
ask parents
Haha I found my neighbor selling something on there and he accidentally put free shipping on it, so I told him I'd buy it and I'd like he free shipping
i would be more scared to do it under their noses
fair
I mean, the worst they can say is no, so yeah, take a shot, won't hurt
nah the worst thing they can do is yell at me
there are worse things, just depends on the parent
and say about have I have all these nice things already
They aren't a real parent if they do worse things
i suppose you could start by selling the xbox if you never use it
well... from a legal standpoint they are unfortunately
bye
does anyone know why only one of my monitors are showing in nvidia's control panel?
it's my second monitor, my main one is connected directly to the gpu
is the second monitor connected directly to the gpu?
oh wait
it's the second monitor in the gpu
i did
okay, nothing still
it's been on extend
yes
probably nvidia drivers being stupid lol
i went to display settings the only thing that shows is jthis
i'll dm it to you
you gotta turn on your dms
that's what shows
he still needs help with this for whoever's following up
tried uninstalling & reinstalling nvidia drivers along with a restart
you guys think there will be discounts for computer parts on cyber Monday?
all my problems might literally just be my monitor settings
the reason why i only have 1 monitor showing
could fix all
is the noctua fan a good choice? just need an upgrade for a cool and quiet fan
Arctic p12 is good, value and performance
With ocing I'd go for 1000 personally, but also depends how much you're ocing.
too
thanks do you have any recommendations rn if there are any deals left
Nah I'm not good in the psu department
leadex se 1000w p decent price
thanks
here again to ask for the third and final time. 12600k> any i7/ryzen7 for a 3060ti elite?
12600k is pretty good
so yes ?
guys i fixed it
my main monitor was using integrated graphics instead of my gpu graphics
hence why it wasn't picking up the monitor
12700k maybe?
nope
no need
12600k in games is as fast as 12900k basically
so there's no need to hop to 12700k
12600k is already enough for a 3090 @1440p. You'd be fine with a 10th gen i5 if you're gaming
you ought to be doing the streaming using NVENC anyways
so cpu doesn't matter much
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zLwQ8J changed the ssd, mobo, and psu
850w is overkill but it's only $5 more than the 750w a-gf so why not
revo df 750 is 80 bucks rn btw, so it may be better value
oh
i had my pricing options set to not include rebates so didn't see that
whoops
Anyone know a good gaming laptop for 1000-1300??
Usd?
Yeah
Gimme a min
I built a computer like 9 months ago but it’s a desktop and it was around $2400… and I realized that I need a laptop since I like to travel a lot.
I’m keeping the desktop at my primary home, but I’m going to use the laptop for gaming when I’m traveling
Thanks
What could be the cause of my pc suddenly blackscreening and restarting in the middle of a game?
im playing the game fine and all of a sudden there is a wierd buzzung noise and the screen turns black
then it goes to my lock screen.
one sec
look for an error named BugCheck or Display or nvlddmkm
ok
prob loading
or sometimes it gets stuck loading just click away then click back on it
still nothing
what you described is usually a result of GPU instability in my experience (i got those errors earlier trying to overclock my 3080 too much)
take a screenshot of your whole screen
ok
sometimes screen would go black and audio would continue for a bit before turning into buzzing
then system reboot
sometimes screen would go black and then come back all messed up
sometimes i would get a blue screen
going to lock screen sounds like it rebooted
is there no bar at the left for you
click it from there then
you may have to scroll a bit since event viewer tends to get full of random crap from windows being windows
thats about when it happened
kernel-power just indicates that there was a crash, look around it for clues
i found one called display
there we go
just before the critical
if you click it does it say display has stopped responding and has recovered
yeah
usually you get display if the screen goes black and then comes back
nvlddmkm or bugcheck 0x116 if it goes black then crashes with buzzing
this is what it says Display driver amdwddmg stopped responding and has successfully recovered.
yeah
may be different then, but yeah you are having a GPU problem of some sort
follow these steps exactly:
- download DDU: https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
- download latest graphics driver
- once both downloads are done, disconnect from internet
- run DDU
- select GPU under device type on the right side, it will default to AMD. keep that
- press "clean and restart" on the left side
- once it reboots, run radeon driver installer. don't be surprised if pc boots with low resolution or monitors besides the primary possibly not displaying, since it's forced to run on basic compatibility drivers until you reinstall
Here you can Download Display Driver Uninstaller, this Display Driver Uninstaller is a driver removal utility that can help you completely uninstall AMD/NVIDIA graphics card drivers and packages from your system, with...
had to edit that a bit lol wrote it for an nvidia user first
anyways same process
np, hope it fixes the problem
once you finish that just try gaming and hopefully it won't crash again
Ok thanks alot
ping me tomorrow and let me know if it's fixed or not
if that doesn't fix it it could be a hardware problem
Alright
I gotta get some sleep now good night
hopefully you have warranty if it's hardware
but DDU can fix this a lot of the time
lets see
good luck
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I got Asus rog strix Z690-A mobo and I want to put 3th M2 ssd on it but I wonder does it disabling some sata ports ? Couldn't find anything about it 🤔
Some old mobos were disabling sata ports when adding m2 ssd lol
Does it come with a manual?
Sometimes the best thing is the to just read the manual

Afaik it's only the 4 m.2 boards with 6 sata disable some sata
Oh
I got msi spatium 1tb for cheap so I think I good to go 👍
Looks like only 4th m2 slot disabling some sata ports so 3 m2 ssd is safe
Doubt you'll be using 4 m.2s and more than 4 sata drives anyway
I just have 3sata and 2 m2 for now and wanna add 3th m2. I think that's safe
Yeah, 1st one might be pcie 5.0 then the other 2 are 4.0 & you're set. More complicated storage setup than I'd want, lol.
---10400 $165 vs 11600K $230? Currently the 2 best intel deals right now. Of course 11th gen required for certain features I suppose.
Real question should be 10400 vs 11400 tbh
is the amd gpu driver software good at auto overclocking and should i enable it with a 500w psu (i have a 7nth gen i3 so my harddrives prob use more power lmao)
@fossil cedar
Nothing is good at auto overclock tbh lol
oh ok
i dont know how to oc sooo yeah. and maybe ill wait till i get a better psu
Your psu is perfectly fine then
oh ok
well again, idk how to over clock so im kinda scared
r u typing an essay lol
Pretty simple find the overclocking section in the drivers or download msi afterburner and slide the power setting all the way to the right, up core clock in like 50mhz intervals until it crashed in a 3d mark timespy run(3rd demo on steam for free) then once it crashes, dial it back 25 until it's stable, then do the same with memory
LuL
i cant afford 3d mark
oh nvm
You could try unigine heaven. That's a decent stress test
wait fr?
Meh
or not
That's it
oh. i thought that was ajoke. wb cooling? i have an air cooled gpu
Most of us do. Could always put an extra fan closer to the gpu. I have a bottom intake aimed at mine, helps a bit.
11400 is $200 currently. I get at least 5% back on amazon, but the 11600k isn't on there anymore currently.
Ye that's fine
Why would it be a joke lol
Change your fan curve if you need to
ah
Thing is 11600k needs better board and cooler
should i use the simple slider in over normal setting or the states sliders?
figure cooler decision can wait a bit. as for mobo, not sure tbh. Been eyeing gigabyte's Aorus Elite & MSI's mpg gaming force (both just z590). The latter seems to have a pretty good price right now.
Can you send pics not 100% sure what you mean just by the name?
Not really, need to take cooler and motherboard into cost as all need to be bought same time anyway
I just mean maybe a day or 2 because cooler prices only vary so much. I now see these 240 or 360mm aios for $100ish, that's awesome. I'm so used to a normal HSF I gotta say.
I'd just do the normal sliders like this since it's your first time, unless theres no mhz option, % for frequency would be a bit weird, I've always used afterburner but I'm sure you can just up the max state and it be the same, is that correct @frank stirrup
What card is that?
They're way more than you need for either 10400/11400/11600k anyway
Rx480?
570
Drag state 7 slider to 1350 and call it good
Oh, a 120/140 aio would be enough, or also a plain HSF?
on max power and wattage?
Those gpu settings are confusing to me, lol.
Power and wattage same thing
120/140mm aios are dum I'm talking about a 20-25$ air cooler for 10/11400 and a ~45$ air cooler for 11600k
Good to hear. I'll just get used to cpu temps likely being 10 degrees higher than now. Ok, I'll check around. Thnx Pato. --Edit, maybe could use a thread here about network/internet. Router shopping too, was eyeing the Asus AX82U or AX88U. Currently Netgear R6400v2.
2100 at 900mv
is the demo what I should DL? Trying to get that new 3dmark. Haven't used it in ages.
62 c max temp tho so i set all my fans (2 front 1 rear) to max lol.
62 is fine
I run my rx570 at 75-80C load
Lol
I've never seen 75C w/ 30% gpu fan
Strix cooler w/ a case fan right below is beast.
Tbf you bios modded so much it was basically a 580 lol
Better
Yes but you can oc 580s
oh lol
tf is bois modding
Dw about it tbh but it's modifying values in the bios
My rx570 oc bench run is still top 5% rx580 perf
aka bios flashing
Dam
Not exactly that's when you put any different bios on the gpu

I scored well above average rx580
My rx570 is better than gold bin
Literally the 15th best rx570 ever tested I has
I’m running ~50C with no gpu fan overclocked
Gigabyte actually did something right
Can you shunt mod it 
Keep getting this code when trying to install storemi
my zotac 980ti amp extreme runs 57c 40% fan on load
Dont use storemi
Its crap
Power limit is not the issue im facing
What should I use?
should i taje advantage of my amp extremes oc headroom?
Just DL'd 3dmark, should I defrag before I run it?
Depends on why ur running it
ik there a lot of headroom
just because
Ik I'm joking
whats a power limit /s
Primocache is the best
well apparently I can't run Time spy, just Firestrike , haha.
lets go thank you everyone for helping me bought my pc
Np
Hey guys anyone here with the MSI PRO B550M PRO-VDH WIFI AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX AMD Motherboard that knows how to use the DP port on the mobo while having a ASUS Dual GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card DUAL-GTX1660S-O6G-MINI that runs ?
I want to use 3 screens but I don't have DVI ports on my monitors and would need to use 2x DP and 1x HDMI
You need a G series cpu with graphics built in
Not many people do
would a dongle from HDMI (from monitor) to DVI (dedicated card) work?
or should I buy another cheap card
You'll need a ryzen cpu that ends with g eg 5600g
As long as it's either digital DVI or an active analog to digital converter
isn't that most adapters?
You'd be surprised
apparently so
DVI adapters in particular are tricky because you need to know what port you have, DVI-I or DVI-D, so you know which type of adapter you need. If it's Digital, a straight cable adapter works, but Interlaced needs an active converter.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dbs4RT without changing the case this you can go cheaper tho
guys im really debating on what case fan to get. I am deciding between the p12 pwm arctic or the noctua nf-a12x25, i looked at some reveiws on yt and they both seem great in cooling but the noctua's have less noise which one should i get?
gammaxx400 good for 9400f ?
Arctic p12s are pretty dam silent and a fraction of the price, you can buy 5 p12s for the price of like 1.5 a12x25s
Ye
yeah @fossil cedar i doo know that, ill most likely go with the p12s just for the price. i also do play with headphones so it wont be a big problem
What fan hub do you suggest i get if i plan on having rgb fans in the future
I can attest just put p12s in silent af
Uh rgb uses a different connector as well as pwm so just one that's cheapish and meets your needs i guess
Or i just get p400a digital 🧠
Stonks
building pc under 800$ is yikers
10400/1650 in this market is prolly the best you could manage without having to wait too long
HP has 1650 super 11400 for 600 just need to swap out for 16gb ram which you can do for 50$ soo
i meant building, yeah honestly for that budget id go for hp
Ah ye
even if its a bad mobo and cooling i doubt there will be any issues within a few years
not like 11400 will overheat too terribly
hey im looking for a good AMD white motherboard if any of you guys have recommendations
people are telling me Ryzen has better cpus rn so im converting to amd
you're about a year late for mid end CPUs
intel has replaced amd yet again in this section
ok then i will get an intel white motherbaord
i have intel rn
i just need good recommendations
in both cases, I can't help lol
i havent got my cpu yet so
Depends on your budget what you should get
uh idk, a motherboard not over 300
I meant combined
i think thats a good price right?
300$ is redicolus
oh
oh
LOL
im
yeah 100-150 for a motherboard
LMAO im sorry i havent dived into my pc in a minute
I meant cpu and mobo budget together like, what are you looking for?
havent done research in a while either
intel came out with 12 series right?
or no
i just want a good cpu, maybe i9 10k?
theres i11 as well but i dont think i need it, thats a lot
Yes
What's your budget and for what use?
just for games, i play a lot of valorant and the game is cpu based so i want a better cpu, but not just for that reason
mmm budgettttt.... maybe 500
cpus are expensiveeeee 0_0
You in us?
mhm
You have a current system right?
Could you put the parts in https://pcpartpicker.com/list
lian li aio
You should be able to manually oc this to 3600mhz anyway which will be nice and shouldn't take long
Nice
ok ok
@raw crane https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8YvzBc I'd do this
thank you!!!
i appreciate you so much
No problem
Anybody have recommendations for a build under $700? I have the storage and fans covered just needs the rest
@fossil cedar
For gaming?
Yea
You won't like my answer but your best bet is to get a pc that i don't think fit's regular sized fans
Well I meant like I’m looking for the other parts
Ah okay
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-pavilion-gaming-desktop-tg01-2260xt-pc-1k4j3av-1?jumpid=ma_hp-gaming_product-tile_desktops_6_1k4j3av-1_hp-pavilion-gaming-d&dl=true this and replace the ram with https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5
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Any recommendations for a tripper monitor mount for 27 inch??
Hey gents, building my 3090, 5900x build and just questioning if 1200w psu is gonna be enough? I’m just using an AIO so no fancy liquid cooling, should be plenty yeah? Thanks. I’m looking at the super flower leadex platinum 1200 on the cyber Monday deals if that helps or changes anything
1000w is well enough
Really u both reckon 1000w is enough? Ok thanks much appreciated
Same guy lol but yeah 1000w is enough
so i was recommended to use 3600 c16 ram with an i7 12700k, to really get some good use out of the cpu. Since i think it was originally meant for ddr5, but some ddr4 can be just as fast.
i got this one
wait one sec
but its c-16-19-19
In this article, we take a closer look at the performance scaling you can expect for various DDR5 configurations. We test from DDR5-6000 all the way down to DDR5-2400 and compare CL30 vs. CL36 vs. CL40. Last but not least, we also consider these numbers in relation to what DDR4-3600 offers.
what will you do with it?
@clever nova
i just read this article
how did this happen
play games
wdym
@shrewd sparrow so what i was recommended makes sense right?
ddr4 3600 c16 is good for me
yep
techpowerup says its the sweet spot
Reason: Bad word usage
oops
So did I mess up with the ram because its not B die or something. Its c-16-19-19-39
the one i bought
not at all
if its 3600 cl16 you should be fine
what mobo do you have?
Fast ddr4 vs ddr5 isn't a big difference so yeah, you want 32gb ram and rgb or do you care?
If you already got it that's fine then
In this article, we take a closer look at the performance scaling you can expect for various DDR5 configurations. We test from DDR5-6000 all the way down to DDR5-2400 and compare CL30 vs. CL36 vs. CL40. Last but not least, we also consider these numbers in relation to what DDR4-3600 offers.
fyi
its a really good guide
ok thanks
I mean i got it but i am willing to return, but if its not rgb than i would like white
Uhh you'll want an 850w power supply for the 3080 ti btw....
Ik I've seen a few comparisons already
Ahh figured you might have
alright
i spent a long time looking at ram tho i dont think i saw anything better for white
i would be fine with 16 gb tbh
well the ram you have is great
my brother has it
ok cool thanks
trident z neo scales really well
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9y848d/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4w this is 10$ more for 16 18 18 38 but you can manually tune better if you want to, if you don't want to manually tune then imo not worth the hassle of returning
yea those were the 2 i was looking at
Trident z neo uses so many different dies depending on the model btw
by manually tune you mean like overclocking and stuff?
Yeah manually overclock instead of just xmp
its in transit, but screw it ill just keep it. at least its got rgb lol
Yeah
thanks for the advice tho
Np
Would it be that much of a difference?
oh thats strange
my brother got his kit to 3800mhz on a 5800x
Nope very normal, there's 22 trident z kits(all variants, rgb, neo etc) with at least cl16 and at least 3600mhz and that's missing some as i just grabbed from pcpp
Can someone help me split £425 for psu, ram and gpu?
Any recommendations for a triple monitor mount for 27 inch monitors?
oh thats what you mean
my brother has the exact same kit he linked
Are they actually stable
yep
What'd he use to verify?
well i did it with him
What'd u use to verify stability?
Unless you did testmem 5 extreme anta full run 0 errors not stable
What gpu, ram and PSU can i get for £425
Do anta x arshia >:D
I mean, GPU is the wacky part
If you're really lucky, 3060 for around 300£, 2x8gb 3200c16 kit around 50£, tx-m 650w around 50£
Damn
If not, 1660 super or similar would do
Should be, don't remember 1950x being too power hungry
i ran a heaven benchmark for like 2 hours and then ran cinebench r23for like another no crashes or stutters
Uh that doesn't stress ram
Either run testmem5 anta777 extreme profile or run occt's memory test for say 2 hours
AMD is going back and changing their product names a tiny bit. Had the X1900 GPU, now the 1950X something 😅
And well, I'm just going to assume they didn't exactly tighten timings
Sure I could get my neo 3600c16 kit to run at 3800, but it'd have to be something like 20-20-20-44
Yeah I could get my ripjaws 5 kit to do the same, I'd just have to drop timing a bir
And primaries just refuse to tighten themselves beyond the xmp 16-19-19-39
It's cjr so I'd prolly have to crank voltage too to get a higher speed
i let timings go up
he got slightly better perf in bf5
and thats all he cares
Well, tRP can be tightened, but anyways
Still not stable
maybe its the mobo
I can almost %100 tm5 will throw an error if you run it
Could be placebo effect, could just be run to run variation in the tests they ran, could be unstable, etc
Answer
What's better, 3600c18 or 3200c16?
Depends on cpu
Depends mainly on the platform, most of the time, 3600c18
Yeah
But some platform will get more gains than others
For like 10th gen or something, I'd go 3200cl16
i'll run it
Run anta777 extreme config, that's important
will do
is ryzens mem controller on cpu or mobo
i forget
IMC all on the chip
Yeah, in the name "Integrated Memory Controller"
Wouldn't really be imc if it was in your chipset or something
I don't think any Northbridge are on the motherboard
Yeah I don't know of any that are
i wouldn't think so
What's your fclk set to in bios?
i think there is one on the controller die on zen cpus
i forget
i did it like 4 months ago
brothers pc too
not mine
It should be 1 to 1 with your data rate on your ram
So for ddr, that's basically half of the main speed you'll see
1900fclk on zen 3 pretty common to be working so wouldn't be surprised there
yeah
So 1900 for 3800mt/s on cpu
i remember that not being the issue
Yeah, I'm just wondering if they even set it 1-1 or not lol
ik the fclk was simple to set
i think it is 1900
i did like a lot of research before
What guide did you use?
Never enough research :p
Ddr4 oc guide?
i forget which ones i read
very different from ocing my 6900k i can tell you that
The one contributed to by arshia is good
https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/oc-guide/DDR4 OC Guide.md
you stability tested ram with cinebench and heaven...?
do you stability test your new car by booking a flight to mexico
Yeah arshia is Kool dude
To be fair, heaven makes a bit of sense because people like using heaven for vram
But cinebench, dunno
Best ram oc stability test: a crap ton of chrome tabs
he does that for school
lol
Oh, yeah that reminds me @stoic island , did you see my ping yesterday?
i mean..
one time i passed a ridiculously stupid OC through cinebench
and then got a bsod opening firefox
Lmao
so firefox is more demanding stress test than cinebench i guess
On CPU or dram?
prime95 wasn't stable at 4.5
want to heat your room? run a oced 6900k on prime 95
i put liquid metal on both sides of the IHS
cpu was drawing 265W and chilling at 75C all core
thats impressive
Damn what cooler was on it? 360 rad?
just a motherboard sitting on top of a chair lol
Have you seen the integrated stress test in it or nah?
I'm wondering how good it is
Hmm
ive heard its not good for stability
I'm wondering if it's actually decent lol
can test temps with it maybe
I quieted and cooled my card down a ton tho using adrenaline's auto underclock tho, it's not bad tbh
I'm seeing like %5 drop in gaming performance and still consistent frame times
just undervolt it yourself smh
True
I mean 5700xt used to be a 2060 super basically
Then amd got scared when they saw Nvidia and pushed out some drivers that boosted it a bit
no im pretty sure 5700xt was always within spitting distance of a 2070S
i applaud your bravery of not hurting it
I heard it used to be 2060s when released
And not just because of throttling either
meh who cares that board was a piece of crap anyways
i couldn't stability test it because the vrms would hit 110c after 30mins of prime95 even if i put fans on the vrms
during release yes, now after optimizations and driver updates it solidly match the 2070s
Dw, I have a piss bottle by my desk too
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also i saw this
iBuyPower bad
never thought i'd ever consider it
No good
but those parts
I don't care about the price
ibuypoopoo
i could my psu
Trash build quality
well i could fix that
^
I don't think so, what was it?
i plan on using my own psu with my custom cables
fixing a bad prebuilt is more work than building it yourself
Do you know cultists have a discord?
been waiting for gpu prices to drop and fed up of waiting
Haven't bothered to join yet
you can still build cheaper than that with a scalped gpu
i already told you this
zz
i don't wanna support scalpers
but you're fine with prebuilt manufacturers scalping? lol
just buy a used 2080ti for $950 off r/hardwareswap and beat that prebuilt
and the nice mobo
make a pc part picker list including it
Keep in mind I got my parents a 2080ti ftw3 for 400
i am curious
you lucky m-
i wish i had bought a 2080ti when the 30 series was announced
exactly
i saw a 2080ti kingpin with an aio nearby for like 500 near me
Temps are awesome
was so tempted to trow it into my system and just play high res to give my cpu a break until i could a good cpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JtJr2V this is still below your $1800 budget
and you don't have to pay sales tax on r/hardwareswap
That'd give your CPU less of a break
also pcpp has the cooler price wrong
can't believe the PA120 is $33 rn
feel like i should buy 10
Yeah
V5 is like 30 rn lmao
Such a bad price when 224xt exists
I hate that all the tech YouTubers reviewed the v5 and praised it
Cause now price on it is a bit higher
whats the diff between an i5 10400 and a 10400f?
Integrated graphics
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PTHysX if you want a 12600K that still fits in budget
ah. so i should get an f if i have a gpu
like an rx570
not necessarily
I'll consider it
the f is 5 bucks cheaper
Then get non f
But I'd need to get a 2080ti
yeah id just get non-f if it's $3 difference
Through some guy on reddit
you can use the igpu to drive second monitor for example so your rx 570 can focus on the game
Someday you may be grateful for having integrated graphics
or if gpu breaks you have a backup
Exactly
or you can use intel quicksync
Ye
even a basic igpu is easily worth $3
ah
What about $1100? 😏
you can have the igpu from my xeon e3-1241v3 for $1100
Lmao
Does it come in a white case with white aio and white Mobo? If so, you've got a deal
do i need new ram? i have some basic 8 gb 2 stick kit x2. i think the hz is like around 2800
that chip doesn't even have an igpu
you can try overclocking it if you have the time
otherwise 3200c16 is only $50 now
its like 2 50 doller kits from micro center lmao
should be able to oc to 3200c16
You can oc to anything as long as your test stability using r23
is it fine to use a 6900xt with an intel 12th gen?
this is what im planning. might need a new psu tho. 500w is my current
thats a lot of fans
why wouldn't it be
im replacing my old ones and adding 2 new
you can get a pack of 5 P12s for $30 btw
idk some people say the amd gpus work better with the amd cpus, some people tell me it doesnt matter
I mean ik it will work but does it make a difference i should say
might as well just do that instead of going for the 140mms
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you can only turn on Smart Memory Access with AMD CPU but it's not a big deal
ik but my front has the space for 140mms and there are 140s already.
What case do you have?
they just suck
You most likely don't even need full case fans anyways
cosair carbide spec 0-2 redshift
small mid-tower
just fits a 120mm rad on the exhaust
you can fit 120mms in the front too
i'd just save the $20 and get 5x 120mm instead of 2x140mm 3x120mm
ik. but i want the most air flow since i have an over clocked gpu and i plan on keepng the turbo mode on
they flow 20 cfm less then the 140s tho?
doesn't matter that much
you got 2 3090s in there or what
i feel like the extra size of the 140s is gonna be blocked by the plastic anyways
a very oc rx570 with a 62c max temp on 3d mark time spy
lol
you're fine...
62c is nothing
and an rx 570 is not a difficult gpu to cool
unless u didnt manage your cables like me lmao
just save the $20 i doubt you will get any benefit out of 140mms in a case like that
k
??? 62c is fine
Cable management does not make your temps that much worse
i might cut out the front bars off the grill
i see your point
rx 570 thermal shutdown temperature is 94c
oh
thermal throttle point is 90c
i though tit was like 65-70
my cpu only hits like 40c on my stock cooler so i thought that 60c was high for a gpu
just get the 120s
ok
other then that?
should i delete the top fan addon?
so 3 120s?
the pack is 5 120s for $30
rn you have 3 120s 2 140s for $50
same number of fans just all 120s
and with your case's front panel there won't be a difference
p12s are good
ah
but that asus mobo cant support 5 fans only 3 + cpu
p12s have those adapters
you can daisy chain p12s
P12 actually uses so little power you can use 7 on one header
oh. i thought that most fans dont do that
i see that now. i didnt think such a cheap fan can comp with naucta
ik
they're literally just better looking and cheaper noctuas
Damn, so they're using under like 2watts a piece?
0.14A each
yeah i dont like the brown/cream color scheme noctua has goign on
my entire case is p12s lol
Yes
12V @ 0.14A = 1.68W
I'm kinda surprised lol
thats good
my little id-cooling fans are 3W each at full speed
My rule of thumb for a 1a header is like 3 fans
but at full speed they have the power to shake my entire desk
Bass boosted pc
This is a good rule for most fans that can use about 0.3A each
lol
But again... P12 isn't most fans
one time i bass boosted the frog enemy from league of legends
i will never forget those croaks
💀
my soul left my body
does artic cooling make good cpu coolers?
arctic liquid freezer ii is the best
The liquid freezer II is absolutely fantastic for the price
Very few things can perform better and nothing in the price bracket under $200
only custom loops will beat it and then you're talking >$400
well uhh i have to have air coolers. and i think they have to be under like 100-150 mm
thermalright pa120
or one aio
@earnest olive thanks
Hmm, does scythe fuma fit?
yeah ill do a 120 exhaust aio
anyways you have an i5-10400 so you don't need heavy cooling
unless the case physically can't handle an aio or something
it should be able to do 240mm front aio
even with turbo on?
oh yeah then he doesn't need aio lol
there are drive bays that are 2 thin
the bottom 140 nearly hits
true
Oh it's a 10400, no need for anything more than $30 unless you want room to upgrade
but yeah liquid cooling a 10400 is a waste
it really is
gp ill get a be queit dark rock. ive heard good things about those
Yeh that's a decent one
that'll work yeah
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08BY9P911 this is all you could ever need on an i5-10400
but aren't they usually a bit pricey
compared to something like this
i put one of these on an i5-10400 and it was running 40C all core in cinebench r23 lol
with stock fan curve
so not loud
18C idle
17C room temp
p95 small ffts my 3600 on 3.9 all core
and yes power limits unlocked
maximum 81 Celsius
i just like the way dark rocks look and im willing to pay a little more for it
gammaxx 400 v2
didn't try prime95 but probably would've been 50C
sure just make sure it fits first
It'll pretty much run near minimum speed so basically silent even under load
will you really be able to see it through here though
that window looks very tinted
ain't seeing nothing thru there
it aint lmao
lol
aggressive case
better turn it off before bed or it will attack you in your sleep
looks like a thing at the subway that takes the cards and lets ya in
it's angry at you for not cleaning the dust out
i do that like 1-2 times a year
it is going to beat you with the glass window
its plexi/acryilic
its 50 bucks
lol
hey i've gotten tempered glass in $50 cases
uhh problem
cougar mx330-g would like a word
the dark rock is ligit 2 mm too tall
hammer time! lol