building-and-recc-chat

[signal merlin]

what is ddu

[potent portal]

Great, you can get into safe mode from the advanced repair menu there

[signal merlin]

system image recovery?

UEFI firmware settings?

system restore?

[potent portal]

Advanced startup

[signal merlin]

startup repair?

wait so i press troubleshoot first

then

[potent portal]

Select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Startup Settings >Restart

[signal merlin]

i dont have startup settings

wait

i do

nvm

[potent portal]

Then once it reboots it will ask what mode to start in, select the number for safe mode with networking

[signal merlin]

ok

ok

alright

done

its restarting i think

[potent portal]

The download this and run it, selecting all the boxes for your GPU brand https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

[signal merlin]

ok

im trying to connect to internet

wiat a slight issue

when i try to connecvt to internet

it says you arent connected to any networks

and i cant look for my wiif

[potent portal]

You can download it on another computer and copy it over with a usb drive

Or connect to the router with a cable

[signal merlin]

mmm

neither are an option for me atm

any other solutions 😅 '

[potent portal]

Do you have android phone or tablet? You can download on that

[signal merlin]

ok

then?

wait hold up

[potent portal]

Plug it into the computer, tell the phone to connect for file transfer

[signal merlin]

i can get a usb drive in a minute

oh i see

does that work?

cause idk if you can download

[potent portal]

Yeah, then the computer should see it as a drive you can browse

It would download to the "download" folder by default of course

[shrewd pewter]

Yo guys, Im on the struggle bus like never before with my latest build.
Here’s what’s going down:

1. New mobo and cpu. Bios and windows installer would freeze. Tried rma the cpu and got another (r9 5900x). Also have 4 sticks of gskills ddr4 3200. They all worked fine in my previous build
2. Got a new mobo. Top of the line this time - ROG crosshair 8 extreme
3. Backlights came on but both case and onboard mobo power button would not turn on machine. Tried jumping psu with a paperclip jumper and psu jumped fine. Checked and double checked and trie checked manual with all necessary power plugins as well as connectors, as well as case power pin connector. Unplugged everything but mobo except pwm fans and power. No dice still.
4. Switched to a new psu. Still same problem. Feel like Im out of options

Any help is greatly appreciated. I did try swapping dims as well.

[little osprey]

What r ur spec

Give very detailed names

[potent portal]

Try booting with the barest minimum things attached. No hard drives / SSDs, nothing on the back except monitor and keyboard.
Literally just the board, power, cpu and cooler, and memory.

If your processor has integrated graphics take any dedicated gpu out, otherwise leave it in

[shrewd pewter]

Understood. I do have m.2 slotted in but other than that nothing

[sharp tangle]

did you try a bios flashback? maybe it ships with a funky older bios

[potent portal]

I've seen bad M.2 drives short boards before, leave it out

[shrewd pewter]

1. Ryzen 9 5900x
2. Rog crosshair viii extreme
3. Gskillz f4-320016D

[potent portal]

2 different boards, same problem

[sharp tangle]

whoops

[shrewd pewter]

All other peripherals stripped. Thanks all. Gonna remove the m.2. The bios flash button is not lit but the cmos reset is. I did check their spec online and it should work with ryzen 9 5x series ootb

Could their m.2 heatsink removed cause grounding issues? The screws are shallow as heck

[potent portal]

Probably not

[shrewd pewter]

Also I did omit the plastic (circular) riser shims on the Quantum Velocity waterblock I am running between the standoff mount screws and top of mobo. Could that cause an issue?

[potent portal]

If there's poor contact between the cpu and cooler it can overheat in bios

[shrewd pewter]

Its never booted up

The contact is solid though

The pwms dont even lift off unless I jump it

M.2 is out still no dice

[little osprey]

is this mobo alright for 11400 ? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119494?item=N82E16813119494&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL111821C&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111821C-_-EMC-111821-Latest-_-IntelMotherboards-_-13119494-S1A5A&ignorebbr=1🤔

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PxGbt6/asrock-h570m-pro4-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-h570m-pro4 get this instead

[desert gulch]

Go upvote my tech deal rn

[little osprey]

wow i didnt even knew theres h570 chip out there lol

[desert gulch]

Basically just a b560

[little osprey]

is h570 better than b560 ?

[desert gulch]

Same thing basically

Ram oc, no CPU oc

[little osprey]

since 11400 cant oc any way it doesnt matter lol

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[little osprey]

btw is 80C normal while rendering on 12900k ?

[stoic island]

Sure, it's a chip that can get pretty hot

[fossil cedar]

Lol very good deal not related to topic at all tho

[fossil cedar]

Technically but arbitrary difference

[little osprey]

alright

my 12900k running at 75-80C while rendering

[stoic island]

H570 gets better io iirc

Bit more USB kinda thing

[little osprey]

and aio fans getting crazy loud

[fossil cedar]

Sounds about right

Very warm chip

[little osprey]

of course

just want to make sure its not throttling 🤔

[fossil cedar]

Think it'll hit higher clocks before throttle

[little osprey]

I very slightly overclocked it

it just running at 55-60C while slight working with silent fans but while rendering it goes up to 80C with vey loud fans lol

[fossil cedar]

What oc you running?

[shrewd pewter]

My dudes I figured it out. Omg. Faulty mobo had waterblock rubber gasket sticking to it. I forgot to take it off and attach between my new mobo and backplate (black rubber blended in). Shorted out the board

[fossil cedar]

Glad you figured it out, sucks it shorted tho

[shrewd pewter]

Grounded out*

[sterile path]

@fossil cedar hey... remember this build https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7ZH3qp im starting buys pieces in advance because black Friday and the power supply is out of stock, do you know any alternative to this one that is not out of stock? in sell preferably but if they're arent its not a big deal.

[jagged ember]

do try to buy everything at once

and build it so you know if anything is doa

[stoic island]

For now, as long has you have the money, buy the GPU first, and once you get the GPU, should be no problem buying everything else

[potent portal]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JfBrxr/corsair-txm-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020131-na

[stoic island]

I say spending a few cad for a-gf over tx-m, at least for modular

[shrewd pewter]

Anyone had compat issues with asus boards and the western digital 800 series nvme m.2 drives?

[shrewd pewter]

More specifically I have a crosshair viii extreme. I ruled out compatibility by changing up the m.2 and realized the 2 lower ports arent working. Someone on reddit mentioned it can be changed in bios but didnt say how and I cant for the life of me get them to recognize in bios

To anyone who may find this, most asus boards require explicit bios config to share the pcie lanes. This was under advanced-onboard devices config-cpu pcie config mode

[sharp tangle]

messing with my gpu fan curve, yall think 68C on full load 3070 fe is a good spot?

[earnest olive]

sure if it's not loud

you can go way higher safely

[sharp tangle]

oh rly?.

i thought u were supposed to try and keep it below 75ish

[earnest olive]

i mean sure lower is better but no point blasting 100% fans either

find a good balance of temp/noise for you

[sharp tangle]

true, the fans got to 64% speed maybe ill lower it to 55 and try or somethin

[earnest olive]

whatever noise level you're satisfied with

i believe the temp limit is 92

[sharp tangle]

oh its that high? sweet

[earnest olive]

to be clear you shouldn't aim for 92

but that's the limit nvidia sets

okay looks like it's 91 on 30 series

at least on mine

[sharp tangle]

ah yes

yeah maybe ill let it get a bit higher to 75 or so to quiet it down

[earnest olive]

yeah if the noise at 68c is bothering you then you can absolutely tune it down you have plenty of thermal headroom left

[sharp tangle]

dope ty for the info homie

[earnest olive]

np

[little osprey]

Shared List https://newegg.io/f4f9aa4
This would be my first build, I’m trying to make something small enough I can take around with me. What do you guys think?

[potent portal]

If you'll be carrying it I'd suggest the Revolt 3 case. It has a sturdy handle.

That SSD is completely overkill for gaming. P31 Gold is a better, cheaper option.

Don't pay full retail price for Windows

I'd also suggest the 3600c16 model of memory, it's only a few dollars more and very worth it

You're also paying more for the overclocking processor on a non-overclocking board, even the memory can't overclock (or XMP)

[little osprey]

What would you recommend for a gpu

[potent portal]

Something under 330mm, up to a 3070ti/6800

[remote iron]

Is this a good gaming pc build? And I’m the video cards is missing I’m going to use my previous one which is 2gb https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/RTysy4

[potent portal]

My suggestion https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqFFBc

[little osprey]

@potent portal thanks I but I just asked a for a Gpu recommendation I didn’t ask for you to redo the entire thing for me lol

[potent portal]

It's fun to make lists though lol

[little osprey]

Regardless I’ll look at it and see what interests me thanks you so much

[midnight saffron]

gaming pc under 2000$ build pls 🙂

[desert gulch]

A v5 for a 11700k?

[potent portal]

Yeah a better cooler is a good idea, slipped my mind

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[desert gulch]

Also isn't p31 a bit better than s5?

P31 2tb is like $205 rn, good price

[restive halo]

Is a 1050ti better then the 570

[obsidian wigeon]

No

[flat lily]

can someone build me a parts list for 900usd

[obsidian wigeon]

sure

what do you do?

like gaming or

but just to add-

atm there's an abs 2060 prebuilt for 1k

if you can stretch the budget that is

guess imma assume gaming

i'll slap 1050ti as placeholder

cause i rather suggest gettin like a gtx 980 used

[rocky grove]

If you guys had the budget like above average, building around a 12th gen Alder lake cpu? how will you build be like?

[sharp tundra]

Man, there a aorus master 3080 ti on bestbuy right now, too bad that's not what I'm looking for.

[earnest olive]

define above average

and do i get to reuse my 3080?

[potent portal]

2tb was out of stock when I looked

[rocky grove]

$2-4k without peripherals and monitor

[restive halo]

The pc I just built they are now looking for a 1660 super. But as cheap as possible or a equivalent

[obsidian wigeon]

uh

a gtx 1070

[restive halo]

$400

She is looking $250-$300 max

[obsidian wigeon]

no chance then

[restive halo]

Figured

She is just going to have to use the 570 I gave her for now

16 gig Ram, 3700x, 570, 500g ssd, 2tb hd

$500

I could have got more. But she is on a budget and works for me.

[jovial bough]

Sick build

[slate ice]

R9 5900x X R9 Fury X x2

[obsidian wigeon]

wat

[hollow topaz]

nice

[odd crypt]

Any 250$ graphics cards?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/274814024592

?

I found this

But idk if its good

[obsidian wigeon]

that's

no

way too old

[little osprey]

i literally have a stack of those in one of my classrooms

literally the same model

bruh

[fossil cedar]

I'd get a better CPU cooler if going 5800x btw

[fossil cedar]

Txm is semi tho, literally 0 difference in terms of cables

[steep fern]

hey can someone help me with a riser issue? ill be mid game and have my pc black screen then restart, i have looked at the dumpfile and its showing VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE (116)
Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed. this has only been a issue with the riser,

[obsidian wigeon]

then the riser could be faulty

[steep fern]

only happens once in a great while, but i also had this riser on my fiances pc and it never had a issue, ill try a new one tho

[earnest olive]

are you overclocking it?

I've typically gotten VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE from slightly unstable vram

@steep fern

[tight sorrel]

are you using a PCIe 3 riser with a PCIe 4 GPU?

[finite shale]

i'm running a budget meal pc - would 1050ti suffice in a build under $1000

[fossil cedar]

You can do way better btw

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-tower-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-11400-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-raven-black/6476720.p?skuId=6476720 example

[finite shale]

well the current market in the philippines have shortages in gpu's and its costs way too much ahahahhaha

some markets would often price a 1660 around 500$

[fossil cedar]

Ahh you said $ so kinda implies you were talking about the us

[fossil cedar]

You might find some prebuilts with them if you have a look around

[steep fern]

not overclocking it

[finite shale]

oh i do base the product price on $ ehhehe my bad

[steep fern]

running a 4.0 cable but the pcie slot is a 3.0

[fossil cedar]

I see it's fine lol

[fossil cedar]

Make sure it's set to pcie 3 mode

Oh wait nvm it has to be lol

Read in reverse

[steep fern]

yea lol

[earnest olive]

you ran the card without the riser with no issues?

[steep fern]

yea

[earnest olive]

then it's the riser

you can just get a 3.0 riser btw

if your slot is 3.0 it won't make a difference

[steep fern]

i have 2 3.0s

[earnest olive]

test one then

[steep fern]

the 2 3.0s freeze on startup

then the only one i can get to actually post is the 4.0

[earnest olive]

what the heck

what CPU and mobo is this

[steep fern]

but im now getting black flickers as well

9900k and z390 msi mpg edge

[earnest olive]

very interesting

guess you can try another 4.0 riser then

[steep fern]

honestly im at the point i just wanna get rid of the risers, but my card dosent fit my case without it

[earnest olive]

nothing a dremel can't fix ;)

[steep fern]

watercooled lol so cant dremel the glass

[finite shale]

like custom watercooling or aio liquid cooling?

[steep fern]

custom

[finite shale]

oh

[tight sorrel]

have you tried connecting to another PCIe slot?

[steep fern]

yea

same issues

[tight sorrel]

so weird

[steep fern]

agreed, its really frusturating

[tight sorrel]

id be inclined to agree with this advice then. PCIe 4 risers are finicky

[earnest olive]

not with that attitude

if the glass is broken it's no longer obstructing the graphics card

anyways risers are weird good luck

[little osprey]

hey guys

[earnest olive]

I've only ever used one riser but it was with pretty old hardware that's happy as a clam on 3.0

[little osprey]

I have a question

[steep fern]

this is true lol, im thinking im just going to get a new case at this point, i legit hate risers and just want it gone

[earnest olive]

6700K + GTX 970

[little osprey]

I got a 3070 rtx one for like 2.6k my friend said i though try to get a refund

[earnest olive]

2.6k???

jesus

[little osprey]

usd

It has

[steep fern]

ouch

[little osprey]

Zotac too

Zotac nvidia 3070 rtx

[earnest olive]

that's

...why?

you can get 3090s for cheaper than that

[little osprey]

it has more that one fan

and

[tight sorrel]

no! NO NO NO NO!

[little osprey]

its white

[earnest olive]

zotac 3070 white dual is worth $950 tops

assuming LHR

[steep fern]

i paid less for my 3090

[earnest olive]

non-LHR $1250

[little osprey]

olk

ill try to get a refund

[earnest olive]

I paid less for my entire 5800x + 3800c14 + non-LHR 3080 + 1TB gen 4 nvme + 2TB gen 3 nvme rig

after wasting $300 on decorations

[little osprey]

anyone have any good 240hz 1080ps?

[earnest olive]

chances are whoever sold it to you for 2.6k is probably not going to try to be very helpful

[little osprey]

what games do u play

[earnest olive]

me

?

[little osprey]

yes

[tight sorrel]

using a PCIe 3 on my X570 / 3070, set to PCIe 3 on motherboard, no issues

[earnest olive]

barely play games anymore

got a gf shortly after getting the 3080

gaming time went out the window

now I just mine on it instead

[earnest olive]

yeah having a 3.0 slot or setting the slot to 3.0 should avoid issues with 3.0 risers so idk why 3.0 risers won't even post with his 3.0 slot

wonder if the slot itself could be faulty

[tight sorrel]

ah, but he tried the other slots too

[earnest olive]

yeah sounds like a faulty riser then

[steep fern]

do you know if a 3090 with a waterblock will fit a lian li 011 xl without a riser?

[earnest olive]

3 faulty risers wow

yeah for sure

my 3080 looks small in my o11 non-XL lol

and it's not WB

[steep fern]

i have the non xl and it is a tad to small

[earnest olive]

WB cards tend to be shorter don't they?

maybe if you have a front distro plate

[steep fern]

i have a front distro no issue im talking width towards glass

[earnest olive]

ahh

[tight sorrel]

easy

[steep fern]

the in and outlet are just a tad to far out

[earnest olive]

I haven't had a problem with that but I'm air cooled

[steep fern]

you 100% on this?

[tight sorrel]

er... no

I thought you meant length wise

my bad

[steep fern]

lol

[fossil cedar]

Waterblocked gpus become way smaller than air cooled

[earnest olive]

one sec let me turn on the rgb so I can take a pic lol

it's off for the night

[fossil cedar]

And o11 xl giant case

[earnest olive]

width

[fossil cedar]

Should be plenty of room still lol

[tight sorrel]

pro tip: remove the side glass, run without it

😆

[steep fern]

at this point im debating it

[earnest olive]

not a huge stretch of the imagination for water blocked card to be too wide

[tight sorrel]

im actually surpised your gpu doesnt fit. how huge is the water block?

[earnest olive]

my power cables are already pressing against the glass

[steep fern]

i dont think it will fit

[earnest olive]

have you tried it?

the case is designed for water cooling so it should have been designed with compatibility for water blocks in mind

[steep fern]

i have tried with my current case, the non xl

[tight sorrel]

flip.

[steep fern]

i legit forgot what waterblock im using

[earnest olive]

so it doesn't fit in the o11 non-XL?

ouch

[steep fern]

nope by like a quarter inch

[earnest olive]

my tiny air cooled card is a happy camper

[tight sorrel]

you got a pic?

[steep fern]

let me look 1 sec

[tight sorrel]

thats not an insignificant difference!

[steep fern]

i have the bitspower block

[tight sorrel]

is it for the founders edition?

[earnest olive]

google says o11 dynamic supports gpus up to 159mm wide

[steep fern]

no the gaming trio

[earnest olive]

bitspower 3090 ftw3 block is 151mm wide

dunno what card you have

[steep fern]

msi gaming trio

block is 155 wide

[earnest olive]

huh

[steep fern]

155mm wide

[earnest olive]

weird it should fit

[steep fern]

yeah idk at this point, i just remember the glass hitting

[tight sorrel]

might have been a fitting

[steep fern]

was the block 100%

[fossil cedar]

Isn't the xl wider?

[tight sorrel]

that just went passed that 4mm space

[earnest olive]

we're talking about the non xl right now

his card should fit in non xl

dunno why it doesn't

[steep fern]

if the xl is wider im going to go with that

[earnest olive]

anyways I'm gonna go sleep

very tired

[steep fern]

goodnight!

[earnest olive]

good luck

gn

[steep fern]

thanks for the help

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i see

[little osprey]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Systems/CORSAIR-VENGEANCE-Series-Gaming-PC/p/CS-9050011-NA
excluding the price, are the specs good?

[fossil cedar]

Thing is you just can't ignore the price, but ehh cpu good, gpu good, case good, cpu cooling good, power supply and motherboard doesn't say, ram is fine although leaving performance on table by not going 3600cl16 for ryzen

[tight sorrel]

for that price, I woiuld expect them to give you the capelix version of the cooler and have all the fans be the QL version

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[fossil cedar]

And an rmx instead of "gold"

And 3600cl16 ram

And hopefully a good motherboard

[limber oyster]

How does a evga 3060 compare to a 2070S?

[obsidian wigeon]

about the same perf

iirc

[limber oyster]

Ahhh okay

[fossil cedar]

2070 super is better

[limber oyster]

👍

[tribal crater]

You build pc's regularly or do it as a profession how long do you think it would take you ( ballpark) in hours to do this? Remove 360 radiator fans, add 6 fans to it, take apart gpu put into aio, mount it and 240 radiator, add 2 nvme, add lian li power extenders to mb and gpu, add 4 tube sleeves, wire management sync rgb? 10+ hours seem reasonable or exaggerated to do that?

[fossil cedar]

Won't take nearly 10 hours, I'd say 2-3

[tribal crater]

Kind of thought that I was getting ripped off.

[fossil cedar]

Someone said they would do it for you and it would take them 10 hours? They're tryna rip you off ye

[obsidian wigeon]

10 hours?

damn that's some slacking

[tight sorrel]

" take apart gpu put into aio" - what does this mean?

[fossil cedar]

I'd assume they were putting an aio on a gpu

[limber oyster]

Wum?

[fossil cedar]

Think wrong reply

[limber oyster]

I don't even remember that lol

[tight sorrel]

"add 4 tube sleeves" - and this?

[fossil cedar]

Probably custom psu sleeves

[tight sorrel]

that might take long

[fossil cedar]

Not 10 hours

I'll give a generous 5 hours

[stoic island]

Different platform too

[fossil cedar]

I mean yeah but still a great psu

[sterile path]

yeah but im building soon but rn there a pretty pog reduction like the screen and i dont say no to economise some money

[uncut goblet]

Does anyone have a build prepped and ready in their wish list that is cheap and cheerful, but can still run good for a few years? Would love to see what others are finding.

[obsidian wigeon]

Budget?

[uncut goblet]

Right now I've got a wishlist at less than $1000, no videocard. Friend said she's willing to spend $1500 for a PC, and I am trying to get best bang for buck for her. (We have a line on a videocard from another friend)

[mossy venture]

One sec

I got a link somewhere

Check this out on @Newegg: ABS Master Gaming PC - Intel i5 11400F - GeForce RTX 3060 - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 512GB Intel M.2 NVMe SSD https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali570/p/N82E16883360205?Item=N82E16883360205&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-205-_-11192021

I think there's a different one floating around for 1200$ tho

With a 10400f instead

[obsidian wigeon]

that one's kinda meh

rather 10400f

with same ram 10400f is actually faster

11400f needs power limits to be unlocked to match

[uncut goblet]

Any other suggestions, trying to get as many as possible.

[trail sundial]

is the 10400f actually faster?

[obsidian wigeon]

stock vs stock

yes

by a few percent

[trail sundial]

weird, passmark and geekbench strongly say other wise

[obsidian wigeon]

idk

[trail sundial]

must not translate to real performance I guess

[obsidian wigeon]

techpowerup says something i say

synthetic benchmark is well

completely synthetic

so yeah you're right

tpu has actual review of actual workload so

[trail sundial]

Title (1080p Resolution) Core i5 11400F (FPS) Core i5 10400F (FPS)
Hitman 3 154 146
Watch Dogs Legion 115 113
Battlefield V 170 165
Far Cry New Dawn 124 117
Metro Exodus 185 174
Cyberpunk 2077 101 99
Assassin's Creed Valhalla 95 94
Red Dead Redemption 2 130 130

https://premiumbuilds.com/comparisons/intel-core-i5-11400f-vs-10400f/#:~:text=The 11400F was 25%25 faster than the 10400F,vast improvement over the 10400F’s score of 51434.

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

we could say it's equal

[sterile coral]

Nope not a good priced or balanced computer

[obsidian wigeon]

what?

it's better than what you can do yourself

11400f isn't a weak cpu either

try doing 11400f+3060 build with those specs and everything yourself

have fun matching the price there

oh wait i looked at the link wrong-

[fossil cedar]

Prebuilt or list?

[fossil cedar]

I feel like there was an issue with their testing here with 10400 vs 11400 btw

[uncut goblet]

List, I want to build it. Unless pre built is better.

[fossil cedar]

Ehh depends how lucky you are with gpu but prebuilts are more realistic for 1k budget atm

[stoic island]

Or, get a 3060 for <400$ first, and then come back

[fossil cedar]

@stoic island actually bb have a cyberpower 6600xt build for 1k, idk how i feel about it tho

[stoic island]

Perhaps

[restive halo]

My computer keeps freezing on me out of no where?

[little osprey]

Hello

I plug in a cable in my gpu and it says no signal

Anybody can help?

The fans are spinning

[desert gulch]

That's not bad tbh

Basically a 2070 super build

[uncut goblet]

I have a line on a GPU that we wont have to buy off newegg, so whatever build, wouldn't need a GPU unless it's a slamming deal.

[hallow glen]

Better than 3060 right?

[fossil cedar]

Slightly but close enough

[serene hedge]

Hey i am trying to update my HP Webcam and i don't know where to start

[fossil cedar]

Only problem is build quality?

[serene hedge]

it's a crappy quality so i want to know if updating it will help the quality

[fossil cedar]

But how much can you actually get it for?

[fossil cedar]

What motherboard and cpu?

[uncut goblet]

I think it's a 580, selling it for $280

[fossil cedar]

Running any overclocks?

[fossil cedar]

Budget

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh

Not worth it over prebuilt

[uncut goblet]

fair

[fossil cedar]

I'd get this instead https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-tower-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-11400-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-raven-black/6476720.p?skuId=6476720

[uncut goblet]

only been sent 1 prebuilt so far, and wasn't to much of a fan of the stuff in it..as the stuff i have in my wishlist is already better (aside from GPU)

[fossil cedar]

Ehh actually only 8gb ram would want to upgrade that

[uncut goblet]

hmm wonder if my company discount makes that Lenovo cheaper

[fossil cedar]

What specs where they? And also gpu is what matters most in majority of games

[uncut goblet]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali570/p/N82E16883360205?Item=N82E16883360205&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-205-_-11192021

This was the one i was sent earlier

I was looking for 32gb ram, 512gb SSD and 2 TB SATA drive for game storage.

[fossil cedar]

That's good but 300$ over budget lol

[fossil cedar]

Why 32gb ram?

[uncut goblet]

future proof

[fossil cedar]

Nah

[uncut goblet]

I still run 16gb myself

[fossil cedar]

16gb is plenty for gaming

Only games that can utilize that much is ms flight sym

[uncut goblet]

gross

[little osprey]

is there a good cheap set of 32? I wanna run a couple VMs

for coding

just Ubuntu

but my RAM dies

also in Affinity Photo

[fossil cedar]

For what cpu?

[little osprey]

10700

[fossil cedar]

No point going 32gb ram, better spent on a better gpu

[uncut goblet]

ok

then why be people putting 64gb in their machines and playing star dew valley ? 😛

[fossil cedar]

Country?

[little osprey]

Canada

[little osprey]

Same reason people compare sizes?

[fossil cedar]

Because they don't know how to money manage, and god forbid you don't have all 4 slots filled with rgb :p

[uncut goblet]

i only get 4 slots just incase the 2 i am using faill... LOL

[little osprey]

B560 and I7 11th gen

[fossil cedar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-memory-f43200c16d32gvk

[little osprey]

thanks

[uncut goblet]

Wrong chat, this isn't build pics 😮

[fossil cedar]

Asus prebuilt?

[little osprey]

HP Omen?

prebuilt for sure

[little osprey]

I know , I just need help so I sended pic

[little osprey]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

If you feel comfortable I'd try reseating the gpu, so taking it out and putting it back in, if you don't feel up to that, asus should be able to help you with fixing it themselves, beauty of buying a prebuilt

[uncut goblet]

ohh that Lenovo Desktop has Windows 11...i dont think i can deploy that to a newbie PC person and feel good about it..lol

[serene hedge]

budget what? This is not about my PC, this is about my laptop

[little osprey]

In my country Asus doesn't help unfortunately

They exist but not for helping

I will try taking it out

[fossil cedar]

You can install win 10 on it lol, but win 11 is fine it's just slightly different

[fossil cedar]

Budget for new webcam?

[fossil cedar]

Well you can always return to the reseller as well (which i would personally recommend as it's gonna be hot and loud)

But sure try that first

[little osprey]

Ok thanks

[serene hedge]

no

[cyan plaza]

and minecraft if you play with mods and have chrome opened 😄

[serene hedge]

my laptop has a built-in webcam, and the camera is like a 240p quality, i wanted to update it to increase the quality

[uncut goblet]

Can you downgrade from 11 to 10 for free, or do you have to buy a copy of 10?

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i thought you said upgrade, I'd just google, hp model of your laptop drivers

[fossil cedar]

Windows 7,8,10 and 11 keys are all identical

[uncut goblet]

Ah so i can use the 11 key to install 10... sweet.

[fossil cedar]

Yes but hold on there's a cyberpower pc that would be better

[uncut goblet]

go on

[cyan plaza]

only few times 32GB is recommended 😅

[fossil cedar]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-master-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-500gb-ssd-black/6481360.p?skuId=6481360

[uncut goblet]

that looks similar to my build I've been carting together, just the Cyberpower has less Ram.

[fossil cedar]

Only thing is still 8gb ram so you'll wanna grab a kit like this and sell/keep the other stick it comes with https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

[fossil cedar]

Unless you're robbing the gpu or somehow getting it at msrp good luck getting a better pc for that price lol

[uncut goblet]

yeah there is no GPU in the cart

everytime I add a GPU next day it's "sold out"

[cyan plaza]

it always sold out

im building a computer without a new gpu

[uncut goblet]

So another $100 for that Cyberpower, get better ram, and add a 2TB SATA drive for game storage..and done

[fossil cedar]

I mean the hdd you can add later but sure

[uncut goblet]

yeah I can just order a HDD seperate and throw it in

[cyan plaza]

4tb for little over $105 😛

[restive halo]

No all good I fixed it

[cyan plaza]

https://www.newegg.com/toshiba-x300-hdwe140xzsta-4tb/p/N82E16822149627

[uncut goblet]

I am a diehard Seagate fan so..no ty 😛

[fossil cedar]

Why lol that's the oddest company to be a fan of lol

[uncut goblet]

I've never had a single issue with their drives, and i've been using them for 20+ years

[cyan plaza]

dang ram price is still high

[fossil cedar]

I'd actually get this instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gHNxFT/western-digital-wd-blue-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-wd20ezbx

[uncut goblet]

WD is my least favorite.

[fossil cedar]

Other people definitely have lol

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-high-right-now-are-you-high-high-you-ok-judging-you-gif-8909434

[uncut goblet]

I haven't had luck with WD, longest lasting one I've had is 2 years.

I finally lost my first 2TB Seagate I had, i've used it for 15 years. it died earlier this year.

[little osprey]

@fossil cedar it tells me this:

[fossil cedar]

You could have rma'd that btw lol

[fossil cedar]

Oh nice you got it to boot ?

[little osprey]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that graph thingy means nothing lol, I'd uninstall it tbh looks good though

[little osprey]

So is it working now?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[little osprey]

Still no signal when I plug hdmi in it damn

Idk why is doing this

[fossil cedar]

Then how did you get the display out?

[mild axle]

Hello

[frank stirrup]

Yes?

[mild axle]

I’m looking for the best under £1000 blender pc

Can you help?

[frank stirrup]

We have already done that

[mild axle]

I’ve lost the link, sorry

[frank stirrup]

Look for it

[mild axle]

Uhhh lemme see

[exotic river]

Question: If i was to buy 2 of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-Dominator-Optimised-Performance-Customisable/dp/B088MXX1GW/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=dominator%2Bram&qid=1637346882&sr=8-2&th=1, instead of buying the 4X8 kit. Would my ram still work normally. Or is there some compatibility issues? Im kinda confused on why the 4x8 kit is more expensive than getting 2, 2x8 kits?

[fossil cedar]

I'd advise not doing that because 1. Technically 2 separate kits don't have to work together even if same kit, especially with corsair they use so many different dies and 2 because corsair is insanely overpriced and known to not run at xmp sometimes

[frank stirrup]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Ballistix-BL2K8G36C16U4BL-Desktop-Gaming/dp/B083VN642Z/

I recommend just one of these

Its already 16 gigs

[exotic river]

Ohh okay, so it would be better to pruchase them in the 4x8 kit

[frank stirrup]

2x8

[frank stirrup]

No

[dense sparrow]

Is this a good gaming pc as I’m going to get them very soon in black Friday , Its mainly made for gaming, recording, editing (photoshop, premiere pro)like gaming meme videos maybe, etc.. and ofc work

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/RwbNfP

[frank stirrup]

What cpu do you have Ahkash?

[exotic river]

Thats good, but i was considering the dominator for aesthetic purposes, going for an all white build

5600x

[frank stirrup]

Ahh then you want 2x16 for 32gb

Easier on the imc

[exotic river]

Oh okay

Thank you for letting me know!

[frank stirrup]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Ballistix-BL2K8G36C16U4BL-Desktop-Gaming/dp/B083VNMP87/

[dense sparrow]

Ping me

[frank stirrup]

Just get one of these @exotic river

They faster and better than the ones u linked

[exotic river]

This might sound quite stupid, but is a 4x8 kit not reccomended. I kinda like the fact that it just fills all my available slots on my motherboard lol

[cyan plaza]

it helps by splitting the load slightly although not sure how big of a difference between 2 vs 4 sticks

[frank stirrup]

@fossil cedar

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/V6GnTW/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-ax-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-aorus-elite-ax

10/10

[frank stirrup]

They are easier to run for the cpu

You can go 4x8 just I wouldnt

Most probably you wont have any issues

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B083VN3YFH/

2 of those if you want all 4 slots filled

[exotic river]

Oh okayy, and there wont be any compatability issues getting 2 of the same kits?

[frank stirrup]

Nope

Ballistix is great that way

Very very nice ram

[exotic river]

Haha okay thank you so much for your help :)

[cyan plaza]

people don't understand Minecraft with mods 😄

[frank stirrup]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NFjYVc
@dense sparrow

[cyan plaza]

it's almost at 7.5GB of ram useagw

[frank stirrup]

It appears you dont either

I have a modpack that uses 12gb ram

Heck I have a vanilla world that pulls 9gb

[cyan plaza]

i know there are bigger ones..

[frank stirrup]

Literally a vanilla world that needs 12 gb allocated to run

0 mods

[cyan plaza]

too much redstone..

[dense sparrow]

Hmm

[frank stirrup]

Not really

[dense sparrow]

Why not the rmx psu?

[frank stirrup]

Not at all rather

[frank stirrup]

8 pounds more for an equally good but 750W psu

As compared to the 650w u had in

So little for more headroom always nice

Incase you make an upgrade in a few years

[dense sparrow]

Hmm

[frank stirrup]

Psus generally last many many years so investing in a good one is always nice :)

Wait a second

Thety have linked that mobo wrong

The elite ax page goes to a gaming x mobo page

@dense sparrow u need wifi?

[dense sparrow]

For me idk lol

What does it make

The diff

[frank stirrup]

You get wifi and bluetooth if u get a wifi mobo

Otherwise you dont

[earnest olive]

as a professional PC builder, it heavily depends on which GPU, some of the older founder editions can be really difficult to take apart (proprietary screws, glue, etc) but with most modern AIBs I'd say less than 2 hours for the whole job for sure

10 hours is serious slacking and you should probably find someone else cause they're definitely just trying to overcharge you

[frank stirrup]

Would take me about 3 hours tbh

Max

[earnest olive]

I'd personally charge $150 for all of that, dunno how much he is asking

[frank stirrup]

Sippy lot faster tho

[earnest olive]

assuming it's a modern AIB GPU that's easy to take apart

like I can crack open my 3080 in less than 1 minute

[frank stirrup]

@dense sparrow

[dense sparrow]

Idk tbh now lol

[frank stirrup]

Make a decision and let me know

[still roost]

Zartanyen#1208 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cyan plaza]

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X or Ryzen 7 5800X

Ya it's on sale right now as well I just was looking at

[frank stirrup]

5800x

[mossy venture]

Unless you buy used, 5800x/5600x

[mossy venture]

400$ should be the msrp of the 5800x imo

450 overpriced

[desert gulch]

Yeah but whatever

[mossy venture]

It pretty much is, ever since they've been in stock consistently I haven't seen them over 400

Anyways, I'd go with either the 5800x or 5600x

[frank stirrup]

Yeah they pretty much always been 380-400

[mossy venture]

3700x only if you buy used

[cyan plaza]

Looking also at the wattage usage for proformance gain

[mossy venture]

Why does wattage matter to you much?

Do you alr have a psu?

Do you have a limit on the power you can use?

[cyan plaza]

Ya but cheaper in price

[mossy venture]

Also please don't buy a 3700x new

If you're goingnto buy it buy used

Or just get a 5600x

[cyan plaza]

I'm slightly for effecicany like double Power consumption for almost no gain for example

[desert gulch]

You're using tdp vs boost clock?

[cyan plaza]

I never boosted before so I don't even over clock

[desert gulch]

Zen 3 is actually really efficient

[cyan plaza]

I also live with my parents so I don't want to over kill there bill 😅

[desert gulch]

A few watts doesn't hurt anyone

[cyan plaza]

It adds up over time

[desert gulch]

Keep in mind it takes 1000 watts to make a increase of like maybe 10 cents max

It doesn't really

Cause if you do a render or something, your power draw is about equal

5800x uses more but is faster

3700x uses less per minute but takes longer

So overall in the end they're pretty close

[cyan plaza]

I don't render. Just games but have muliply app open as well

[desert gulch]

A 5800x won't really use much more power than a 3700x in the same task if you're GPU bottlenecked

Or if you're CPU bottlenecked you'll use a lil more power but have better fps

[frank stirrup]

Just harder to cool

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Not really for gaming tho

[frank stirrup]

5800x needs something like a 280mm freezer ii

[desert gulch]

Not too big of a deal if you leave it stock and are GPU bottlenecked

[frank stirrup]

If you want those boost clocks it does

[desert gulch]

If you're GPU bottlenecked tho then nah

[frank stirrup]

It will still boost

Just not much used

[cyan plaza]

I only have a rx470 so I won't be buying a gpu for a while

[frank stirrup]

And there are always games where gpu bottleneck isnt a thing

[desert gulch]

Then just lock it's boost clock

Ez

[frank stirrup]

Like csgo

[desert gulch]

Only losers play csgo, no cap

[cyan plaza]

But I do need a new computer because a lot of newer bigger games just crash on pc all the time now

Cpu bottle necking

[earnest olive]

CPU bottlenecking does not cause games to crash

your issue is surely something else

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Check drivers and stuff

And if you have any overclocks they may be the cause

[cyan plaza]

Hmm I would not know then, I reset my pc because of it

I don't overclock either

[desert gulch]

Hmm

[earnest olive]

I stuck 2 3070s with an 8 year old quad core

[cyan plaza]

This is my cpu buy the way

[earnest olive]

perfectly stable

eww fx cpu

you poor soul

[errant fiber]

ur forgetting

[cyan plaza]

That's what I'm thinking the cause even lower the graphics on my rx 470 I still have crashes

[errant fiber]

it's the black edition

[earnest olive]

well

[cyan plaza]

Like slime rancher for example

[earnest olive]

you can pair a 3090 with a 15 year old single core using pcie to pci adapter

and still won't crash

CPU bottleneck doesn't cause crash

just bad performance

[cyan plaza]

Then possibly psu? I'll have yo check later then minecraft and smaller games works fine maybe its the rx470 but anyways I have to leave for work bye

[earnest olive]

have fun lol

[fossil cedar]

Poggers #tech-deals it

[sterile path]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NqcZkX ayo im ready to start buying right?

[desert gulch]

Change that cooler

[frank stirrup]

Its a scam

Link leads to a b550 gaming x

Not elite

[fossil cedar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GJsbF8 I'd do this

[fossil cedar]

It's not a scam but shame probs just misplay on pcpps part

[frank stirrup]

Scam.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/633838982354173972.gif?size=48

[fossil cedar]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dcdj3Z actually this sorry

Mistook cooler

[sterile path]

yeah but the screen u choose is brg and ive seen what is do to text and i dont like it

[fossil cedar]

Your choice i suppose, but i wouldn't change anything else really, just an fyi you send a list without storage so i assume you already have some?

[sterile path]

ye the samsung evo thing 1tb

[sterile path]

the other power supply was not powerful enough?

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't run a 6800xt on a 650w

[sterile path]

it was 750

[jagged ember]

wait I don't understand

it's a good monitor for the price

[sterile path]

https://www.displayninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bgr-vs-rgb-subpixel.jpg

someone show me this

and also and said that its not that of a big deal but its can be a little annoying

also a lot of comment said that the monitor hard big ghosting issue

[fossil cedar]

Still

I'd rather not push it, if you're getting that high end of a card

[sterile path]

ok

[stoic island]

They probably didn't enable cleartype on bgr

From rtings testing, 125% scaling cleartype to bgr vs cleartype off on M27q:
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/UEFsOgdc/bgr-125-cleartype-bgr-large.jpg
https://i.rtings.com/assets/pages/UEFsOgdc/bgr-125-cleartype-off-large.jpg

[sterile path]

can u enable on any bgr monitor?

[jagged ember]

yes

it's a windows setting

[stoic island]

Yes, it's a windows feature

Images sourced from here
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q

[jagged ember]

rtings is sweeet

[stoic island]

Ikr

They're nice

[jagged ember]

now if only they could review Sony new budget earbuds

[stoic island]

Rtings audio testing scoring system bad though

[sterile path]

and also the i5 12600k is less costly and better than the 7 5800x so it would be smarter to get the i5?

[stoic island]

Frequency response charts, great

[jagged ember]

I just go thru the review tbh

and look at frequency response

[stoic island]

Rest of review, bad

[jagged ember]

o

[stoic island]

Ddr5 expensive and annoying

[stoic island]

Who cares how you want to rate the plastic's build quality >:p

[sterile path]

u need ddr5 for the 12600k?

[sterile path]

I'm aware. But it doesn't apply to every program and screws you over if you ever get a secondary monitor.

(a random guy when i asked about the fact that u can enable cleartype on bgr, so the other motnitor i choose would be more a safe choice right?)

[jagged ember]

you can just clear type the other monitor separately?

'In most instances, text clarity is minimally impacted and shouldn't be an issue for most people.'

but in the end its your choice

[fossil cedar]

Only the CPU is, the platform cost, cpu mobo and cooler is the same/more if you choose to go ddr5(i wouldn't like 0 stock)

[frosty siren]

I stuck with DDR4 when I chose my Z690 board. Don't feel like spending more when I don't need to.

Depends on usage, I suppose. I only use my PC for games and nothing competitive at that.

[potent portal]

There's barely any difference between DDR4 and DDR5 right now anyway unless you get a $600+ kit

[sterile path]

and for a 5800x cooler is a noctua good?

[potent portal]

NH D15? Yes

[frosty siren]

Wasn't fully aware of that. Then again, I wanted to continue using the kit I already have. I do my stuff piecemeal XD

[potent portal]

Yeah the only way to get more than 5% improvement is to buy a kit rated for 6000+ with as tight timings as you can get. Otherwise a DDR4 3200c14 kit will be just as good or better in some cases.

[frosty siren]

So DDR5 is definitely a problem for future me~ Much obliged.

[fossil cedar]

Or just get the Arctic liquid freezer for cheaper

[potent portal]

It's just how it is with the first gen on a new platform. The first runs of the new standard are always about as good as a good kit from the old.

I'm holding off until there's 8000c40 kits

[frosty siren]

Obscene numbers. Makes sense to me, though in my case it'll be when it becomes (if ever) necessary for what I do.

[potent portal]

I don't think it'll be too long until those speeds are available. Consider that there's currently DDR4 rated at 5400c19

[little osprey]

Can someone help me out? I need a new cpu and motherboard for my pc. I have a rtx 2060 and want to know what pairs out well with it.

[potent portal]

10400 and some B560 board that isn't asrock

[little osprey]

Like 10400K?

[potent portal]

There's no K for 10400, just F (no iGPU) and the regular

[little osprey]

I was thinking of going i5-11600K

[potent portal]

Going any higher than 10400 with a 2060 is kinda pointless, and you can always upgrade later if you get a better gpu

[little osprey]

Anything is better than my cpu of an i7-6700K. It keeps hitting max load

[potent portal]

You can put more money in and get 11600k and z590 (again, no asrock) and then you'll be set for when you get a better gpu down the road

[little osprey]

I was only thinking going 11600K if I can find a 30 series card down the road that isn’t two or three times more the actual cost

Im giving myself at least a 500$ budget for a new cpu and motherboard

[potent portal]

That would make sense in that case. A 3070 ti can usually be found close to msrp.

Well, relatively speaking

[sterile path]

yeah im gonna get https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-27-gaming-monitor-s2721dgf/apd/210-axeh/monitors-monitor-accessories#ratings_section

just to be sure

[jagged ember]

as long as you're comfortable with it

[fossil cedar]

Tbf the h570/b560 pro4's are fine, h570 pro4 is 95$ actually

[potent portal]

Yeah? No crap vrm or bad default power limit?

[fossil cedar]

It's fine for a 65w nothing special afaik

But that's all a b560/h570 should be

[little osprey]

What about an i5-11600K with an ASUS TUF Gaming Z590-Plus WiFi 6 LGA ATX Gaming Motherboard?

[potent portal]

Well every other brand defaults to increased power limits and longer tau periods

[potent portal]

Perfect

[fossil cedar]

True not too sure on the tau but vrms is fine

[fossil cedar]

I'd personally grab the gigabyte ud (ac) instead as it's a good bit cheaper btw

But tuf also nice

[little osprey]

I can get both on Amazon for 468.71$ on Amazon

[fossil cedar]

FOR A MOTHERBOARD?

[little osprey]

The motherboard and cpu combined

[fossil cedar]

Usd? The z590 ud should be cheaper? You in us or Canada?

[little osprey]

The Z590 is 247.72$

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YJ8bt6/gigabyte-z590-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z590-aorus-elite-ax actually I'd grab this

170$

[fossil cedar]

That's way too much if you're talking usd? Or are you talking cad ?

[steep fern]

Well I ended up just running my case with no side panel for the time being

[little osprey]

usd

[fossil cedar]

Id get this then https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YJ8bt6/gigabyte-z590-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z590-aorus-elite-ax

[little osprey]

Why are over half the reviews on it so bad?

[fossil cedar]

User reviews mean little ro nothing

[potent portal]

If you mean Amazon reviews those don't matter

[desert gulch]

seems like a few ppl got a doa mobo

and some ppl bought from a third party and got a used one

[potent portal]

People can pay for slanderous reviews, and do all the time

It's 5 star on newegg

[desert gulch]

Yeah and doa can happen

ppl may write a bad review

just gotta consider how slim chances of doa are

the ppl who are satisfied most likely wont even write a review

[fossil cedar]

And they happen on all electronics

[desert gulch]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

I've rated products good star wise but never wrote a review

[desert gulch]

Yeah same

[remote iron]

Hey should I buy a refurbished gaming pc?

[desert gulch]

Depends

[analog hearth]

no lol

[desert gulch]

Usually not but once in a blue moon it can be worth

[remote iron]

Like the ones on new egg?

[desert gulch]

Id look for an open box instead to save money

[fossil cedar]

I only buy refurbished if it's from the retailer direct or from the manufacturer direct

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[remote iron]

Oh ok

[vagrant briar]

This^

[remote iron]

Have you ordered from tecdale?

[fossil cedar]

No

[remote iron]

Also if I buy a refurbished pc is ddr3 or 4 good?

[fossil cedar]

Why would you buy ddr3 in 2021?

[little osprey]

So for right at 400$usd I can get an i5-11600K and the Gigabyte z590 aorus elite ax ATX for right at 400$

[fossil cedar]

👌

[remote iron]

Idk I don’t really know a lot about computer parts

[fossil cedar]

No CPU from the last 8? years or so uses ddr3 so yeah

[sterile path]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer/dp/B09G3SZ891

??

its good

[potent portal]

One of the best

Especially for the price

[sterile path]

for under 150$ is there better for a 5800x?

[potent portal]

The 280 or 360 model, besides that no

The offset cold plate is great on ryzen

[sterile path]

but like those model dont make a huge dif? like i can still use the 240 on my 5800x and be serene for 2k gaming

[potent portal]

Yeah, it'll be fine with the 240mm as long as you're not doing high power overclocking

If you want to push the boost clocks with PBO the 280mm is good

[sterile path]

ye idk how to OC

so i think im good

[potent portal]

Well I have good news, there's a single toggle you can check that will let it automatically boost higher. Just set precision boost overdrive to enabled.

[sterile path]

it gives more fps or na?

[potent portal]

It can in games that rely more on cpu, but it'll help keep the minimum frame rate higher more importantly so it has less frame drops

[sterile path]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cgpj3Z ready

[stoic island]

Not a need, but it's annoying that you can't get it in case it gets better over the next year

[sterile path]

but even with the setup im gonna get im gonna be able to run almost all game for the next 5 year right?

[potent portal]

"Future proof" isn't really a thing because we don't know how demanding games will be in 5 years. It's about as good as it gets for current tech though.

@hollow mulch What about that 3060 PC?

[hollow mulch]

idk, imma tryna link a pre-built because I can't camp a microcenter for a gpu

[potent portal]

Ah gotcha, I recommend ABS from Newegg instead, a lot cheaper

[hollow mulch]

ok thanks

[rocky grove]

Hi guys is there an alternative to a cpu cooler for 12th gen because the lian li galahad 360 is not compatible unless you get a bracket, and all the brackets are sold out

[worn wave]

Some motherboards are drilled for LGA1200 mounting right?

[potent portal]

Wait, they're selling the brackets? I thought all the brands were giving them away

I'd contact their support and ask

At any rate the arctic liquid freezer II should come with the bracket, they have for months now

[worn wave]

Not sure what brand board you have but ASUS have all of their boards drilled for LGA1200 mounting also

[potent portal]

Smart move on their part I think, very convenient

[worn wave]

Yeah looks like it was just ASUS who did this

[potent portal]

Might not get you the best mount possible but it'll work

[rocky grove]

Hm so should I wait for the lga1700 coolers? It’s prob going to be Corsair h100 or 150

[foggy bear]

idk if this is the place to ask, but im not great with computer builds or what is decent and whatnot, is there any chance someone could build me a pc or point me in the right direction to buy one, for something like 800-1300$

i play games mostly if that matters

[remote iron]

Is a intel core i3 10100F cpu good for gaming?

[desert gulch]

its a great value option yeah

depends on your definition of "good"

[remote iron]

like can it run games good?

[covert vapor]

My Pentium 4 3ghz can run games good, I just wouldn't recommend it for any made in the past ~20 years. What are you planning on playing

[obsidian wigeon]

10100F is ok as stopgap solution

[remote iron]

minecraft and maybe gta 5

[foggy bear]

are u asking me what im playing? Maybe wow, and warframe

[hallow glen]

no not u

someone else

[obsidian wigeon]

i suggest looking for abs prebuilts on newegg

like ones with 3060

should fit your budget

[foggy bear]

abs?

how much ram is decent?

[hallow glen]

16gb

[covert vapor]

Yeah, 10100f should be perfectly fine with those

[remote iron]

ok thats good then

[foggy bear]

ok thanks,

[rocky grove]

Yeah looks like the LGA1700 mounting bracket is difficult to find for the 12th gen CPU coolers here in Canada... not sure what to do...

[sterile path]

this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/D4ybF8 or this https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/cgpj3Z

[obsidian wigeon]

I would do 12600K

The first one

[jovial solar]

I am building my own computer and I am going with Ryzen for cpu. I might buy a Ryzen 7 or a 9? There is a couple on sale. If I buy a 7 I want to know what motherboard will be expandable to Ryzen 9 with the 16 core capability. Its nice to get something on sale but I want to know my options. Could someone help me out?

sorry for the paragraph

[potent portal]

What's your budget to start with, and do you need any special features?

The vast majority of people don't need ryzen 9. More cores does not equal more gaming performance.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

5800X is the most one ever needs for gaming

[jovial solar]

ah thanks

[austere wagon]

Usually a 5 is plenty for both unless you going for part work station as well

[jovial solar]

for the entire computer?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[jovial solar]

ah

2k-2.5k

[potent portal]

Do you need a list for the whole thing or just the cpu/mobo like you said?

[obsidian wigeon]

that's nice

[jovial solar]

i was thinking a lower ryzen

[obsidian wigeon]

i would do 12600k myself

[jovial solar]

kind of a whole list

[obsidian wigeon]

it's like as good as r7 5800x

[potent portal]

Do you have a gpu yet?

[jovial solar]

im kinda lost but i wanted to get stuff while on sale

[potent portal]

That's the first thing to get, and the hardest

[jovial solar]

ah

no i dont

[obsidian wigeon]

best bet for value is prebuilt tbh these days

[jovial solar]

yeaa

[potent portal]

It takes some people 6+ months to get the gpu they want without paying double

[jovial solar]

i wanted https://www.newegg.ca/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190?Description=rtx 3060 ti&cm_re=rtx_3060 ti-_-83-360-190-_-Product

that

but uhh

im upgrading from a laptop so i dont have a keyboard

[potent portal]

That one's not really worth the price

[jovial solar]

ah

[potent portal]

Maybe $1500

[jovial solar]

got any recommendations?

cuz

im not really running ultra high end games

[potent portal]

What kind of games, and do you need a monitor too?

[jovial solar]

i wanted to do some aaa games

like battlefield

yes i have a monitor

[earnest olive]

uhh

AAA games and "ultra high end games" are the same thing

[jovial solar]

but the games i play currently arent really demanding

[jovial solar]

yeah

but im not gonna be running them on max really

i would if i could but

i cant

[obsidian wigeon]

well that machine can run any of those

but the price is a bit high

[jovial solar]

the games i play currently are bloons td6, minecraft, terraria, minecraft dungeons, roblox (lol), tabs, rarely csgo, and thats pretty much it

but i wanted higher end games

[jovial solar]

also my computer has been having alot of issues starting since dungeons

[potent portal]

You could customize this on build redux for $1800

[jovial solar]

but i uninstalled it

and prob still there

oh thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

ooh that's nice

[jovial solar]

is there a case in there?

[obsidian wigeon]

3070 is a good chunk better

yeah

td500

[potent portal]

Yeah it's the TD500

[jovial solar]

thanks👍👍

[obsidian wigeon]

they'll put it together for you too

that 75 cad service included

[jovial solar]

hate to bother you guys but i was having many issues

[potent portal]

Oh this was cad

[jovial solar]

thats good to hear

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[jovial solar]

oh thank youu

[obsidian wigeon]

it's canadian newegg site

[jovial solar]

im using cad

[obsidian wigeon]

so cad

[jovial solar]

i appreciate all the help

im new to this but wanted to try

kinda expected some people to laugh at the fact that im such an amateur

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

[jovial solar]

but this helped

[obsidian wigeon]

we all start off somewhere

[jovial solar]

yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

so don't worry

[jovial solar]

computer breaking so i needed a new one

[potent portal]

Some discord channels you'll immediately get people like "oh eww prebuilt don't touch that" but not here

[jovial solar]

yeah

oh is this cad?

the parts you gave me

[potent portal]

I was on the US site when I put that together

[jovial solar]

oh

hmm

how much more will that add up to?

[potent portal]

I don't know if they even do canada

[jovial solar]

hmm ill check