building-and-recc-chat

[twin sedge]

It said that the h510m supported 3200mhz

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

that's with the right cpu only

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[obsidian wigeon]

like 10600k or 11600k

[fossil cedar]

Even with i9 it maxs to 2933

[twin sedge]

And it has tpm 2.0 correct?

[obsidian wigeon]

ofc

[fossil cedar]

Are you in the us rodlp?

[twin sedge]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PxGbt6/asrock-h570m-pro4-micro-atx-lga1200-motherboard-h570m-pro4 I'd get this

[rugged sparrow]

Gaming

[fossil cedar]

H570 is basically b560

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[rugged sparrow]

No, but I know a couple of people

[fossil cedar]

You know botters who will sell you the card for msrp? Because that's the only people that could get you that thing at msrp if you don't do it

@rugged sparrow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zR6Ky4 I'd do this instead

And gives realistic pricing in budget

[stoic island]

using a sfx psu kinda weird

[rugged sparrow]

Maybe, I need a moniter within the budget of 1500

[earnest olive]

only on rocket lake

[earnest olive]

10600K would be 2666 max

[stoic island]

Does P400a come with mounting holes for sfx PSUs?

[fossil cedar]

Ohh didn't realize it was sfx

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P7tNfP

[fossil cedar]

I mean pcpp isn't throwing errors about it not fitting so

[fossil cedar]

If worried about having sfx psu get the rmx 650w instead

[stoic island]

maybe cx

[mossy venture]

I'd go with a 10400 or 11400 and a better gpu if it was me, if you already have the gpu it isn't bad

As in that pairing

I didn't check out the rest

[desert gulch]

Why not basic 224xt? Or just get gammax 400 tbh and save like 10 bucks

[fossil cedar]

Basics fan isn't as good and same with gammaxx but deff an option yeah, thing with gammaxx is the constant blue/red annoying to a lot of people

[desert gulch]

Basic fan is just as good as black fan

The only fan in the 224xt lineup that is different is the white

And its worse

By a couple percent on noise

But it's p close to margin of error

[fossil cedar]

Performs just as well but something about the life span, can't remember exactly, not a large difference though

[desert gulch]

Its literally the exact same fan

Just a different color

ID-12025M12S vs ID-12025M12B

Both a sf-12025 fan

Same hydraulic bearing in both of em

[fossil cedar]

Ohh okay i had heard differently

[desert gulch]

Yeah they're all the same except white

But that's in margin of error in testing so take it with a grain of salt

[fossil cedar]

Fair enough

[steep berry]

does anyone want to help me out lol, i wanna build a pc but i am on a bare bones budget

as long as the thing can turn on ill be happy

this is what i have but i want to go even lower with expenses

https://newegg.io/a2187a1

[fossil cedar]

Okay first things first, https://pcpartpicker.com/list will give you the retailer with the cheapest price of each product, secondly what's your use for the pc? And I'd basically ditch that whole list

And what is your budget?

[steep berry]

use? i just have a hobby for building them and messing around with parts and stuff. Budget is like 500 max

[fossil cedar]

Yeah what will you use the pc for?

[steep berry]

just basic office stuff

maybe watching netflix or something

mostly i just want to purchase these parts to have something to build and modify

[fossil cedar]

@steep berry I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x29ywz

[steep berry]

thanks!

[wet jay]

I need some help!
I’m looking for about a 60% ish keyboard, for $100 or less. I’ll be using it for gaming specifically. I want something less bulky than my current. What do you guys recommend?

[stoic island]

USD?

And do you want rgb?

[wet jay]

Yes and yes if possible!

[stoic island]

Womier K66 will probably be your friend then.
(It says 60%, but its really just 65%, which is 60% plus arrow keys)
https://www.amazon.com/Womier-Keyboard-Swappable-Mechanical-Crystalline/dp/B08B3GNC2J/

keep in mind 60% doesn't have dedicated function keys like f1 f2 f3 f4 etc

You'll have layers to do that on 60%/65% boards

If you do want dedicated function keys but don't want numpad, there's the Womier K87 that's TKL as another option

all hotswap so you can swap in switches later

[wet jay]

@stoic island awesome! Thank you so much for your help

[lost dawn]

building a new pc

[lucid minnow]

Hey is the gigabyte x570 auros master a good mobo?

[fossil cedar]

its good but if you want a premium motherboard the gigabyte b550 aourus pro/master instead

for a lot cheaper

[lucid minnow]

its gonna have a ryzen 7 5800X and a radeon rx 6800xt attached to it

does that change anything?

[fossil cedar]

nope

[lucid minnow]

alright thank you

[fossil cedar]

np

[stoic island]

You can go much cheaper than that for a build like that with no other requirements

[sharp tangle]

b550 aorus pro is on sale for like 180 on Amazon, it was 162 a few days ago tho

[stoic island]

Like all the way as cheap as b550m pro vdh wifi will do okay, b550 gaming edge wifi as a in-between point

[lucid minnow]

thank you for all the responses

[wet jay]

Do you know of a good wireless mouse that would match the keyboard you recommended?

[fossil cedar]

What's your budget and what you do mean by match? Like colour wise?

[cunning bobcat]

hello i'm kinda not new in building pc ( i'm able to build one) but i have now idea what parts should I buy for a budget pc (600$) it's not for hard gaming but it should be able to run games without probleme

[wet jay]

Match as in the white/rgb , and I’m hoping less than $50

[cunning bobcat]

ducky channel one mini (60%) and wireless Logitech mouse are good

[fossil cedar]

Okay lemme make you a list

[cunning bobcat]

thanks😢

[fossil cedar]

Ducky keyboards are meh overpriced

[cunning bobcat]

good for the price i think (i got mine for around 110€

[fossil cedar]

Ohh wait you're in Europe

What country?

No point converting prices as stuff isn't available in some countries and prices of products not same etc

[cunning bobcat]

France but shipping isn't a problem don't worry XD

so in $ it's ok

[fossil cedar]

Nah it just makes more sense to buy in france/rest of europe then because us has customs and some parts aren't even available in Europe and vice versa

So 600€?

[cunning bobcat]

yep

[fossil cedar]

Probs razer orrochi, it's white not rgb tho

[cunning bobcat]

600$-700$ XD

[fossil cedar]

Just say euro my guy

Saying your budget in country your not in just doesn't make sense lol

@cunning bobcat https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/FR8zz7

[cunning bobcat]

what is the best CPU with ab integrated grahics card......bcs ...you know....

[fossil cedar]

thats why i put 960/970 etc

[analog hearth]

I could be wrong but I think Intel Xe graphics are actually superior over Ryzen integrated graphics but somebody please correct me on that if it's needed

[fossil cedar]

you can get 2nd hand on ebay or something and it will be wayyyyyyyy better than integrated graphics

[cunning bobcat]

yessss but way to much i think

[worn wave]

There are still quite a few older GPUs that are cheap on ebay

[cunning bobcat]

i saw the "SAPPHIRE NITRO Radeon RX 470 4gb" but idk if it's good (i'm not gonna play a lot of big demanding game like call of...)

[analog hearth]

don't get a 4 GB 470

iirc they make an 8 GB variant. get that instead

but you're probably actually better with a 570 or 580 8 GB. there's not much of a performance difference, but it's at least more reliable iirc

[fossil cedar]

yeah that would do, what price?

[fossil cedar]

gpu market in eu isnt as good as NA

[analog hearth]

ah

[cunning bobcat]

$107.50 (converted in $)

pre-owned

[fossil cedar]

stoppp converting priceeeeee

[cunning bobcat]

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[fossil cedar]

very good price, make sure its legit and not listed for "for parts"

[cunning bobcat]

ok

[fossil cedar]

availability, youre not in america, different markets etc just makes it more confusing, americans dont include tax in their listed prices either lol

[cunning bobcat]

otherwise i have this

GTX1050Ti

[fossil cedar]

470 over 1050 ti

look for 970's tho

[cunning bobcat]

ok thks

so it's the gtx 970??

[fossil cedar]

yeah

[cunning bobcat]

ok thks

very much

[fossil cedar]

np

[cunning bobcat]

It's for april.....so i hope the prices will go down....

For the GPU

[fossil cedar]

ohhh a lot of things can change by then, come back then in like march or something

[covert vapor]

Nah, for igpus on desktop 5000 series APUs are better. The CPU itself is the more questionable part

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[plain grove]

Does anyone know how to fix my problem my monitor is 144z and it’s only showing up as 120hz and with my other monitor it does the say it’s 165 but only shows up as 144hz

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Using hdmi or display port?

[plain grove]

What’s the difference

[fossil cedar]

Different ports

[plain grove]

Hdmi

[fossil cedar]

Might need to use hdmi to get the 144hz

[plain grove]

I’m using dvi to hdmi

[fossil cedar]

That's most likely your problem

Or you need display port to get the refresh rate quoted

[plain grove]

Alright

[trail wren]

does anyone recommend a amd cpu on a budget?

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the budget but intel is way better on budget atm

Why would you want amd cpu anyway?

[trail wren]

i like amd

well rn i am using a intel cpu

but its from 2013

[fossil cedar]

[jagged ember]

10100

11400

11100

[fossil cedar]

And they're both mulit billion dollar companies just get the best one for your budget, what's your budget?

[fossil cedar]

Not a cpu, it's 10105

[jagged ember]

oh lmaoo

intel naming scheme is interesting

and not intuitive

same with amd tho

but yeah what budget

[fossil cedar]

It's because technically just 10100 refresh

[potent portal]

12400 is shaping up to be the next budget pick

If you guys saw the accidental release of the review

Slap that onto a B660 board once they come out and we've got a solid budget system

[fossil cedar]

Yeah, for the moment though, 10100 b560 for really budget, 10400/11400 b560 for mid/budget

[earnest olive]

q6600 pc from the dumpster: allow me to introduce myself

ultimate budget

but yeah

I'm excited for 12400

and 12100

wish 12100 had some e-cores too but oh well

[little osprey]

facts

[jaunty nacelle]

5700 for $350, 6600xt for $550, or 3060 for $600

[obsidian wigeon]

5700 is the best bang for the buck out there

[potent portal]

It's also a good mining card

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[rocky grove]

Do you guys know if I get the new intel 12th gen chips is there a mobo that can be backwards compatible so that I can use my current GPU (980) and build a new pc for now until the GPU prices come back to normal?

[obsidian wigeon]

It should work with that gpu

pcie version doesn't matter

[potent portal]

GPUs you don't need to worry about, pci spec is backwards compatible

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd recc getting just 12600K myself

It's good for basically anything

5800X perf is nice

[potent portal]

With a ddr4 board at that, no need for ddr5 with that chip

[obsidian wigeon]

Just has to be good speed and latency

Like 3200c14 or 3600c16

[trail sundial]

So you really don't get much advantage with DDR5 at the moment paired with the 12600K?

at least not worth the price jump?

[potent portal]

The 12700k barely benefits from ddr5, and even the 12900k isn't much difference

It's not worth paying $300-600 on a memory kit that's practically jedec speed (about the same speed as decent ddr4)

[trail sundial]

makes sense, DDR5 isn't very sensible at the moment, at least not until it gets faster and cheaper

[little osprey]

ddr3 is king

ddr3 gang

[potent portal]

Sure but there's not a lot of ddr3 platforms that support nvme, and I like muh speed

[little osprey]

chinese x79 boards

[potent portal]

The only reason I held onto my FX 8300 so long is the motherboard allowed nvme boot with an expansion card

[little osprey]

what'd you do with the system after you upgraded

[trail sundial]

Ddr3 gang

[little osprey]

is that your 950 system? nice

[trail sundial]

yeah, it's still running, a little on the outdated side though

[potent portal]

I still have it but I'm not sure if it'll run. I had to force the board out of the old case...

[little osprey]

I just fixed a i7 920 system for my school recently

[limber oyster]

When you need 6 ddr3s to run like 2 ddr4s

[trail sundial]

yeah, that's only 12 gigs in that picture

[little osprey]

12 gigs is still a decent amount

[potent portal]

Just wait, 32gb sticks are about to be the small size ddr5 sticks

[limber oyster]

Oh I saw

[trail sundial]

128GB stick, that's gonna be entertaining

[little osprey]

and expensive

very, very expensive

[trail sundial]

I'd be amazed if it wasn't

that's a lot of ram

[potent portal]

They already have them in servers

[little osprey]

I have hard drives that will have less storage space than a freaking stick of volatile memory

[potent portal]

1tb ram moment

[little osprey]

💀

[potent portal]

Only thing to do with all that space is run a ram cache

[little osprey]

it really is crazy how fast computer technology advances

i will never not love X79 though 😔

[potent portal]

I've been tempted to swap my oem 2011 socket board...

[little osprey]

what for

2011-1 or 3?

[potent portal]

Overclock my xeons of course

[little osprey]

please not x99

[potent portal]

2011 classic

[little osprey]

oh

ive learned my lesson trying to overclock x99

4 dimms = tri-channel

[potent portal]

I have a xeon 2680v1, v3 is when they switched to x99

[little osprey]

yea ik

so are you gonna do BCLK ocing?

[potent portal]

Makes one hell of a plex server with mining in the background lol. No hardware acceleration, all cpu transcoding.

[little osprey]

oo nice

[potent portal]

Haven't decided. I kinda want to swap the board but... I hate replacing things that still work

[little osprey]

I do have a dual socket lga2011-1 server that I havent been using for anything recently

I was gonna host my own public mc server but I dont have time to keep developing it

i almost got it ready to open too 😔

[potent portal]

I tried and failed to run an internet server. My isp is wack.

[earnest olive]

so close but so Far

[little osprey]

im gonna go back to doingm y homework now

thanks

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spongebob-head-bang-gif-15984525

[earnest olive]

lmao

you're welcome

[limber oyster]

That 90° back bend

OUCH

[fossil cedar]

12100k

[potent portal]

12100hgkf

[frank stirrup]

U forgor an xe

[potent portal]

How foolish of me
I though about putting it too

[fossil cedar]

Also forgot u smh

[frank stirrup]

U is for laptops

Not gamr perf chip

Thats why t isnt there too

[fossil cedar]

True but intel might pull an intel and make new meaning u

[frank stirrup]

No static ip?

[frank stirrup]

U is for Ultimate now

[fossil cedar]

Yes U for ultimate and u for ultra low power

[frank stirrup]

Indeed

Max U and Min u

[fossil cedar]

Perfection

[little osprey]

just fixed one of my college's PCs that had a dead psu

F

its also an fx 8350 system

F

[potent portal]

Not even an ipv4. I get an ipv6 routed through a 6 to 4 tunnel. The result is I can't be pinged by either ipv6 or ipv4.

[frank stirrup]

Ouch

[potent portal]

Yeah... So no server on my net unless I pay for a vpn with static address

Plex threw a fit too. It seems to detect it as double nat. Which isn't wholly inaccurate.

[frank stirrup]

Im actually thinking of getting a raspberry pi and hooking it to 2 hard drives in raid 1

And running a private files server

Since static ip

[potent portal]

Budget NAS

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

What do you think?

Should I?

[potent portal]

No real reason not to. Why not offload some resources from your main systems?

You could run a pihole too

[frank stirrup]

Pihole and nas off the same raspberry pi is doable?

Also i have 350mbps symmetrical so should be good enough

[potent portal]

As long as you're not maxing out the processor too often, I don't see why not.

Might need a heatsink for that thing lol

[frank stirrup]

Ill get one of those cases that has a fan and stuff for it

[potent portal]

Ehh, if you want. Not totally necessary, but could be good for having drives attached.

[frank stirrup]

Hmm time to start saving up for all that then ig

Cant wait to get out of college and get a job in 3 years

[limber oyster]

I'm doing college and work

Night Shift too...

But yeah, you're idea isn't bad.....idk why I didn't think of that...I like to run my own servers for games....

Maybe because I have no idea how to do a raspberry pi system

[potent portal]

It's pretty easy, especially if you have any coding experience. There's guides for everything.

[limber oyster]

Hmm coding....so you need to code your own os or something?

[frank stirrup]

9 to 5 college and then studies leave me way too exausted :(

[limber oyster]

10pm to 6am night shift

Online college

[frank stirrup]

I have offline

[limber oyster]

Oof

[potent portal]

Just basic stuff like writing a script, the OS is prebuilt

[limber oyster]

Oh....

Sounds.... complicated

Is it basically like Arduino?

[potent portal]

In essence yes, but also no

It's more like a mini, low power computer

OS install is easy, you just copy the files to a SD card

You can always look up a guide on how to make a raspberry pi nas

[limber oyster]

Ahh

My brother got some Arduino things....I was clueless

[potent portal]

Arduino can be fun though. We had to make a project using it for a final. I made a solar powered jack o lantern that lights up and plays sounds automatically when it gets dark.

[fossil cedar]

Arduino is fun

Very kewl

Especially with daughter boards

[storm saffron]

Anyone here use air compressor to clean the dust in their pc? Any recommendations what brand to buy?

[mild axle]

https://newegg.io/c907170

is this good/

[mild axle]

damn its better than mine

[fossil cedar]

Doesn't bring me to a parts list? But what's your use case and budget and you want to reuse any parts from current pc? And what country?

[mild axle]

I want something under £900 and im in the Uk, i will re use my OS

[fossil cedar]

Anything else?

[mild axle]

nope

[fossil cedar]

Maybe your gpu as a stop gap?

[mild axle]

i can eep my gpu for a bit

i was maybe thinking of guetting a pre built

[violet ridge]

Hello, rookie to this server. General question. I bought a Corsair H150i Elite cooler and wanted to know if this will come with thermal paste pre-applied? Or will I need to buy and apply the paste myself? Thank you! 😀

[fossil cedar]

All coolers come with either paste pre-applied or come with a tube so you don't have to buy more paste

[fossil cedar]

Ahh okay I'll have a look for ya now

[violet ridge]

Thanks!

[fossil cedar]

@mild axle for prebuilt https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-pcs/pcspecialist-tornado-r5-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-5-gtx-1660-super-1-tb-hdd-512-gb-ssd-10225945-pdt.html

Honestly can hardly see that list, cntrl shift s can let you take a cropped screenshot

@mild axle how you fitting a 3060 into 900£ pc?

Ohhh are you using eniac or something?

[stoic island]

Prob awd it

[fossil cedar]

Forgot to check awd it

Scan was unlucky for 900

@mild axle if you want a prebuilt https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-fractal-meshify-c-white-intel-i5-10400f-six-core-4.3ghz-nvidia-rtx-3060-12gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming.html

[fossil cedar]

Just upgrade to 2x8gb for the extra 30£

[stoic island]

AWD it has had some neat deals recently

[fossil cedar]

Yeah cries in brexit

[fresh kettle]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PTXFDP6/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_glt_fabc_9RRQZMRWSH83X9X67QBT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Is this good??

[fossil cedar]

It's probably fine but i wouldn't say good, if you want a good white aio, lian li galahad

[cunning bobcat]

why......i'm back with new question....so i gave up on the idea to have a graphics card in my pc for now so i'm on the path of choosing a cpu....i'm gonna take a ryzen 5 buuuut i don't know if an 8 core or a 11 core does much of a difference

i think i'm gonna go for an 8 core

but an ryzen 3 so...

idk

[fresh kettle]

Tbh i just went with a low end card for

Now

[fossil cedar]

There's no 11 core cpu, you'd want to go for the 5600g

@cunning bobcat didn't you say you won't be buying until april ;-; come back in like march prices and market will change

[cunning bobcat]

yes but no XD

[stoic island]

I think they're asking about iGPU, I believe Vega 8 is advertised as 8 graphical cores and Vega 11, 11 graphical cores

[cunning bobcat]

the crisis is going down in 2022

(mid 2022 according to the builders)

[fossil cedar]

Ahhhhh

[fossil cedar]

Most likely end of 2022

[cunning bobcat]

yep so to late XD

[stoic island]

Late 2023/2024 according to me :D

Supply will probably clear up before then, but that's a solid time to put bottom line at

[frank stirrup]

12 more monfs minimum

[stoic island]

New fabs will definitely help when they come online, which would be late 2023/2024

[fossil cedar]

@cunning bobcat if you wanted to go the igpu route https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/vN9BNP

But again market will change and that list probs wont be valid

[earnest olive]

remember A12?

they really advertised that as a 12 core apu

[stoic island]

Oh yes 4+8 iirc

Technically not wrong

[earnest olive]

gets an AMD 12 core on AM4

it's an a12-9800

[violet ridge]

Hello, will this work on a Gigabyte Aorus Pro Z690

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236415?Item=N82E16820236415

Also, is there no point to running 3600 and should I just get 3200

[fossil cedar]

The drr4 version yes but I'd avoid corsair ram

Get 3600 cl16 at least

[violet ridge]

will the ram be running at full capacity?

[stoic island]

Assuming you get the Z690 Aorus Pro DDR4 board, I'd grab a 3600c16 ballistix kit

[violet ridge]

Ok, the reason I ask is I have the DDR5 mobo but it has a specs for the DDR4 mobo so I wasn't sure.

[stoic island]

Uh

It's two different motherboards

There's one board with slots that fit ddr5, the other has slots that fit ddr4

[violet ridge]

DDR5 memory is a bit over priced atm AND hard to get

crud...

[stoic island]

Sadly

[violet ridge]

same amount of pins thought i could run it my mistake

[stoic island]

@violet ridge

[earnest olive]

even if it fit it wouldn't work

ddr5 has the power delivery on the ram

ddr4 has it on the board

[violet ridge]

I'm an idiot lol

[earnest olive]

nah

we were all new once

[stoic island]

I know regulation module on ram but does it have actual power delivery on ram? @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

yeah that's what I meant, delivering the correct power/voltage to the ICs

[violet ridge]

I guess i'm gonna have to wait for stocks to resupply

[earnest olive]

the actual delivering of power to the module is going to be through the pins

[stoic island]

I.e. is motherboard still doing the 12v -> 1.5v for the ram sticks or are the sticks doing it themselves?

[violet ridge]

Got it

[fossil cedar]

Or buy the ddr4 board(which is like 70$ less if you're only getting loke 12600k/12700k

[earnest olive]

not 100% sure but I think mobo is supplying 12v to ddr5 now

[stoic island]

Oh fun

[earnest olive]

and then that circuit at the top steps it down

[stoic island]

Moving towards 12vo

[earnest olive]

I know that some modules are locked to like 1.1v in their regulator circuit so you can barely oc them

that's annoying

[stoic island]

Can't wait for 16 stage memory vrm

[earnest olive]

I'm not 100% sure so don't take my word for it

I care very little about ddr5 right now

[stoic island]

I'm even less sure

[earnest olive]

meanwhile people who have their 12900K, Z690 board, and DDR5 ready, but waiting for cooler adapter

[stoic island]

Who even does that

[earnest olive]

some people have been jerry rigging their own cooler adapters

[stoic island]

gang

[violet ridge]

yea that's me too lol

preordered my cooler just waiting on it

[earnest olive]

nh-d15 isn't compatible with most of the asus boards funnily enough

[stoic island]

Yes that was making me mad a while back

[violet ridge]

cooler that fits a LGA1700 that is...

[stoic island]

Why the hell is vrm clearance becoming an issue

Why is Asus making it into an issue

:(

[earnest olive]

intel really pooped the bed here not working with major cooler manufacturers to make sure the cooling adapter situation was sorted by launch day

embarrassing that people can't use $1200 worth of flagship hardware for lack of a $5 cooler adapter

[stoic island]

Indeed kind of sad, but Asus....

[earnest olive]

I hear cooler master and arctic still don't know when their adapters will be ready

[cunning bobcat]

ok after a while i think i've got something....but i cannot resolve the compatibility probleme

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hrXZkX

[fossil cedar]

Bruh i gave you list

Stop using pcpp America it's useless to you

[cunning bobcat]

ok thanks i'm just gonna change the case and a few stuff

[fossil cedar]

Why

And send it in afterwards

[cunning bobcat]

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/vZCKy4

i changed the case and other things

[fossil cedar]

Worse ssd, oven case, overpriced ram

[cunning bobcat]

ha....

[fossil cedar]

I'm not joking

[earnest olive]

ah, build chat.. when you give someone a part list and then they make it worse

[violet ridge]

I have an AORUS PRO DDR5 Z690. Gigabyte's website states it supports DDR5 5200 (OC) / 4800...So which RAM type do I need?

[earnest olive]

you'll be able to slap any ddr5 in it

they only list what they've explicitly verified

[cunning bobcat]

ok so i'm looking for a case...but not overpriced with (at least 3 fans rgb if possible)

[earnest olive]

let me tell you a little known secret

you can add rgb fans to any case

[cunning bobcat]

yep

i know

ok so i choose a Xigmatek Nemesis M MicroATX Mini Tower Case

but i need 3 rgb fans

[violet ridge]

Any opinions on Corsair Dominator or GSKILL Trident DDR5 ram?

[cunning bobcat]

i choose the MetallicGear SKIRON

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/rV9BNP

[jagged ember]

wish arctic made rgb fans

[violet ridge]

Need DDR5

[jagged ember]

why

[fossil cedar]

BITFENIX NOVA MESH

[cunning bobcat]

i know

[earnest olive]

poor pato

[fossil cedar]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[cunning bobcat]

XD

Is there something wrong @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/monica-raymund-gabriela-dawson-eye-roll-ugh-sigh-gif-10924070

[stoic island]

change psu at least

mwe v2 bronze have ripple and coil whine issues at low load

[cunning bobcat]

OK

[stoic island]

bitfenix formula gold is good

[cunning bobcat]

What about a EVGA Br 500 w8??

[stoic island]

no

br worse psu

[cunning bobcat]

OK so i go for a gold

[sharp tangle]

is it a bad idea to mount my 360mm aio (front mount) before the mobo? im not putting the mobo in today im just antsy and bored

[desert gulch]

I mean as long as you don't smear the preapplied paste if you have it you'll prolly be fine

But would probably be easier just to wait until you have Mobo so you don't have to deal with an aio getting in the way

[fossil cedar]

bronze or gold does not have anything to do with psu quality btw

refrence this list

[jagged ember]

good list

[vague oracle]

Wait till you hear about ARGB P12s

[jagged ember]

i'd just use an old phone

with droidcam

up to 1080p and will cost you nearly nothing extra

i might consider logitech streamcam instead of the brio

[limber oyster]

A buddy of mine convinced me to go Intel

He's having the same issues with his Ryzen board as mine even though he has a different board

[obsidian wigeon]

What kinda issues?

USB? If so a bios update will help

[limber oyster]

It won't boot up unless everything in bios is default

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

[limber oyster]

It's just continuously goes thru post

Tried different CPU, GPU, ram, hard drive, replaced cmos battery, tried different psu

Literally everything BUT motherboard

And I already updated bios when it booted up quickly and on the first try when everything was at default

And nothing is overheating

My GPU reaches 54°C when gaming and CPU doesn't go past 65°C

[obsidian wigeon]

That is indeed a faulty board

[stoic island]

Changing what exactly makes it not post...?

[earnest olive]

does it happen to be a ryzen 1000/2000 cpu with xmp 3200+

or ryzen 3000/5000 with xmp 3800+

[limber oyster]

Ryzen 7 3700x boosted to 4.05-4.2

Runs at the default clock

Ram is xmp at 3200, runs at 2133mhz

[earnest olive]

does it fail to post even if you just load defaults and then change one small thing like power led mode

[limber oyster]

It'll post only on FULL default

[fossil cedar]

What did you change that it didn't boot?

That sounds very weird

[limber oyster]

I set ram to xmp

I changed fan speeds

I changed CPU clock

I changed tmp 2.0 on

I changed boot drive to an external trying to download w11

[stoic island]

at once or one at a time

[limber oyster]

One at a time

[fossil cedar]

Ahh okay

I was like that's definitely more than 1 thing xD

I'd probably try update bios but is this new mobo?

[stoic island]

xmp is prone to issues, cpu clocks can lead to not booting, tpm 2.0 is wacky, changing boot drive can lead to weird things

[limber oyster]

Not new mobo

[fossil cedar]

Although fan speeds should boot lol

[stoic island]

yea

[limber oyster]

But I did update bios and nothing changed

[fossil cedar]

Hmmm

Always been like this?

[limber oyster]

Since I got the board

[fossil cedar]

Why didn't you return it earlier lol

Anyway rma sounds like only option

[limber oyster]

Because I could still use it even as default

[stoic island]

meh, try rma first

[limber oyster]

I'll just get alder lake and give this to my brother

He's been wanting an actual cpu and not a quad core

[fossil cedar]

Well rma before you give to bro

[limber oyster]

Phhh nah

[fossil cedar]

What mobo and cpu you got?

[limber oyster]

He doesn't deserve that

[fossil cedar]

[stoic island]

just beware of ddr5 being a real pain in the rear to get

[limber oyster]

Asus x570 tuff wifi

[obsidian wigeon]

Before gettin adl

[limber oyster]

Doing ddr4 board

[obsidian wigeon]

Find some ram first

Unless you go ddr4

[fossil cedar]

Rma it, 2133 on Ryzen is gonna be TRASH

[limber oyster]

Keeping my Corsair Vengeance RGB pro

[stoic island]

x570 plus wifi?

[limber oyster]

Yes

[covert vapor]

Be sure to take photos of everything before shipping though for a rma

[stoic island]

just going to mention no flashback

[fossil cedar]

It's sad

Especially since it's on the b550 version lol

@limber oyster what cpu you got ?

[covert vapor]

They put flashback on the pro I think

[limber oyster]

7 3700x

[stoic island]

pro does, plus doesn't

[covert vapor]

Because

[fossil cedar]

No issues with bios then from rma, just rma, no reason not to lol you're missing so much perf, especially if you get new cpu mobo first

[limber oyster]

Brother won't even notice a difference

Well ..he will from his old one

[fossil cedar]

What's his old one?

Also honestly massive perf increase from 2133 to 3200mhz especially on Ryzen

[limber oyster]

He has a i3-8th gen and 2133mhz ram

That's the speed at which I bought them

The max his board can handle as well

[fossil cedar]

Ehhhhh

Honestly ryzen 3000 on 2133 probably isn't a massive leap over that

[limber oyster]

It's a 8 core vs a quad, technically dual core just hyper threaded

I'd say that a huge difference

[fossil cedar]

I3 8100 is 2 cores oh right nvm

But still

[limber oyster]

"Not a massive leap"

Tbh it's probably that boosted speed that helped

[frank stirrup]

That test is probably with better ram than you have

Not familiar with how passmark tests

[static ravine]

Probably with 3200-3600 mhz ram

[limber oyster]

I personally am running 2x8 gb 3200 mhz cl16 ram

[frank stirrup]

But ryzen needs good ram to run

Didnt u say u were runing 2133

[limber oyster]

But rn both me and my brother are running at 2x8gb 2133mhz

Me because of bios issues

Him because of his motherboard

[frank stirrup]

Yeah so ur running 2133ram

Not 3200c16 ram

So u can probably disregard those results

[static ravine]

It's not 3200 if you're not running XMP or DOCP.

[limber oyster]

Well since we're both at same speeds and capacity I can use those results as a REFERENCE

I might not be having that EXACT score, it's still a reference

[static ravine]

With 2133 it'll be way off.

[limber oyster]

But so would his

[static ravine]

To the point where that's barely a reference.

[limber oyster]

I doubt they used 2133mhz with the i3 as well

[static ravine]

With the i3 it'll barely make a difference.

[limber oyster]

Well then the comparison is skewed anyways

You can't compare CPUs if one has faster better ram then the other

That's like comparing a gen 4 nvme and a gen one sata and asking which is faster to boot up windows 10

[frank stirrup]

Nah

See the way amd cpus work is they use system ram to communicate between cores

So if you have slow ram, that gets slowed down

And the cpu has to wait around

Which makes the system much much slower

Its not a linear decrease or increase

Thats not an exact explanation but the very very basic version

Intel no do that

All cores together and direct link between cores

So fast ram not as important for intel as to amd

Like at all

Because ryzen chiplet based architecture

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M9VRLP

And then keeping my 16GB 3200mhz ram

Though might get trident neos

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4rhRT

With the neo

[static ravine]

4000 mhz on an i5.

??!?!

Talk about wasting money on useless things.

[limber oyster]

My bad

I also didn't see those were each 32gb kits

I don't need 64gb ram

[obsidian wigeon]

might as well do ddr5

[limber oyster]

Check the edited link

I deleted the old link and posted new

Better?

[static ravine]

If you're going 12th gen I recommend holding out for more ddr5 options to hit the market.

[obsidian wigeon]

That looks fine

But I rather do ballistix

Cause 3600c16

[static ravine]

Yeah.

[obsidian wigeon]

Ballistix does have rgb version too

[limber oyster]

They had cl16, but it was like $40-50 more per kit

[static ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fjwFBc

[obsidian wigeon]

If you prioritize looks well it's not bad

[limber oyster]

And I want to do either Amazon or best buy

So having prices is important

With Amazon I use the Amazon delivery hub box and with best buy i can do curbside pickup

I work night and sleep most of the day. I don't want to miss delivery or have it sit outside all day so I do the remote pick up on my way to work or home

Though I might do a microcenter shopping trip after work one of these days since I have Friday/Saturday off and I get off work Friday morning

Sleep for an hour or two, drive to Microcenter, sleep for another hour or two, drive home, sleep for the whole weekend

[fossil cedar]

Don't get 3600cl18

[limber oyster]

Does 2 points really make THAT big a difference?

[jagged ember]

if money is an issue, I'd get crucial ballistix ram lol

rgb is a pain to set up and not always consistent

[limber oyster]

Id like rbg tho

[jagged ember]

didn't know this was true, but

[fossil cedar]

2 points?

[jagged ember]

apparently

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix has rgb

[jagged ember]

yep

[limber oyster]

Cl18 to cl16 used "points" as a general term

[jagged ember]

what

those are timings

[fossil cedar]

Cl18 to cl16 is a huge jump

[jagged ember]

who calls em points?

ik xqc calls ram juicers

[fossil cedar]

3600cl18 is equivalent, sometimes worse than 3200cl16

[jagged ember]

yep

[fossil cedar]

So a good bit of difference

@limber oyster do you want/need new ssd ? And what cooler you got atm?

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MqYtcT

[limber oyster]

Replacing my 256gb Samsung 970 evo plus with the team mp34 1tb

And I have a 360mm aio

[jagged ember]

you've picked an mp33 in the list

[limber oyster]

My bad 33

Meant 33

[jagged ember]

ah yeah

maybe sn550 is cheaper?

[fossil cedar]

I assume you're gonna keep the 250gb drive too?

[jagged ember]

haven't checked in a while

[fossil cedar]

Also what 360mm aio?

[limber oyster]

It's not

[jagged ember]

rip

[limber oyster]

Enermax liquimax III

[limber oyster]

Using for younger Brothers OS

[fossil cedar]

Uhh i don't think enermax have brackets for lga1700 yet

[limber oyster]

It does

[jagged ember]

uh oh

[limber oyster]

There's a form I can fill out and get it free

[fossil cedar]

Grand

I'd do this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sfsBNP

[jagged ember]

whoa

that cost dropped a lot

nice

[limber oyster]

Now to add a second ram kit and it's perfect

[jagged ember]

oh right

why did you want 32gb again?

[limber oyster]

Tbh, mostly for looks

But I'm also going to be streaming as well as gaming

[jagged ember]

if you really want to spend it, sure

but 16gb is enough for that use case

[limber oyster]

I just hate having that gap in-between each ram

[jagged ember]

will you put your pc on your desk?

[limber oyster]

I have a small desk I have it on

[jagged ember]

and constantly have it in your direct field of view?

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[jagged ember]

hm

well, I still wouldn't personally but it's your choice

mostly because I really don't care what my pc looks like on the inside haha

as long as it's decently cable managed I'm happy

[fossil cedar]

I assume you know this but the manual prices are micro center btw

[forest stratus]

Worth “upgrading “ to Alden lake?

[stoic island]

From what

[forest stratus]

Like say a 3700x

Been wanting to do a itx build for a while. Or a mATX one.

[stoic island]

I would at least wait a bit and see how ddr5 stock situation goes

[forest stratus]

I feel like it’s gonna go the way of gpu stock prices

I was planning on staying ddr4

[potent portal]

Unless you're playing competitive fps games at 720/1080p chances are you're fine with a 3700X for a while.

[fossil cedar]

I'd wait at least for 13th/14th gen

[trail sundial]

Is B450 compatible with 5000 series cpus with a bios update?

I'm looking at a used computer with the r5 2600 coming pretty cheap

[jagged ember]

yep

[fossil cedar]

Check what b450 it is btw, there's like 60$ b450s which i wouldn't put a Ryzen 5000 on

[jagged ember]

oh, good point

[digital trail]

hi

I'm from Saudi Arabia, how can I buy in installments?

…..

[magic thunder]

is a ryzen 7 5700g with a 3060ti a goodo combo with ddr4 ram 16 gb 3600 mhz

?

[potent portal]

I'm assuming you mean from newegg.
I would message @fresh garden

[potent portal]

Should be a decent setup, but I don't really recommend getting a 5700g when 5800X is $330 now and 5600X is stronger in games.

[magic thunder]

well the plan is to get 5700g now and then later on down the line getting a 3060ti cuz i have a tight budget

[potent portal]

That works then. Don't pay a whole lot more than the 5600g in that case, it's not that much better.

[magic thunder]

do u think i should get 5600g then

[potent portal]

That depends on prices

[magic thunder]

i thought the gpu was more powerful in the 5700g?

[potent portal]

A little, not much

[magic thunder]

ah

this is gonna be first p build

pc*

[potent portal]

Example

[magic thunder]

oh

[fossil cedar]

Imo 5600g is better deal

5700g maybe if it was like same price as 5600x would make sense

[quaint swan]

Yo I just got a 3070 so should I benchmark it and is you sag a real issue?

[magic thunder]

some poeple r suggesting getting like 3700x and a 1030 and then selling the 1030 afterwards when i get a 3060ti

is that a god idea

[fossil cedar]

Congrats, sag shouldn't really be a problem

If you notice a lot of sag you can get things to help with sag for like 10$

[fossil cedar]

Unless you find the 3700x used for like less than 200$ no, i mean it's an option but if you were to do that, I'd go either 5600x or 10700(f)

[potent portal]

It's up to you but 3700X won't be cheaper than 5700g probably, it's been out of production for years so unless you buy used they're hard to find at good prices new.

[magic thunder]

so

the 5600g is a better option

than the 1030

and 5600x

[potent portal]

In my opinion, yes for most people

[magic thunder]

ahhhh ok

tysm for ur help

can i send a pcp list real quick

[fossil cedar]

Ofc

[magic thunder]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NXNj3Z

might switch outthe case for this tho

[fossil cedar]

Ntb, I'd change the motherboard, case, and power supply, also grab a 3rd party cooler

What case where you thinking?

[magic thunder]

cosair 220t

[magic thunder]

the budget is 850

u can make a new pcp list or edit the existing

what cooler

[fossil cedar]

Bit of a meh old case imo, how do you like the look of the p400a?

[magic thunder]

looks cool

and spacious

[fossil cedar]

It is

[magic thunder]

i am also a first time builder btw

[fossil cedar]

Also you need wifi?

[desert gulch]

For p400a price I'd rather just grab a df700 flux

[fossil cedar]

Why would you grab it over p400a?

[desert gulch]

Meh personal preference

I've built in both

[fossil cedar]

Fair, i think p400a nicer

[desert gulch]

Aight

[fossil cedar]

@magic thunder you looking to put a 3060 ti/3070 in there later on correct?

[magic thunder]

yup

[fossil cedar]

Okie

[magic thunder]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T3XYcf/asrock-b550-pro4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-pro4\

this a good mobo

[fossil cedar]

Do you mind rebates?

[magic thunder]

no

[fossil cedar]

Okay cool

It's fine but If you don't really mind what it looks like I'd go with b550 pro vdh wifi

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/snqgRT I'd do this @magic thunder

[magic thunder]

this is grea5t

would a m atx mobo look good in a bigger case like that tho?

[fossil cedar]

I mean looks fine imo some people don't like it but 🤷‍♂️

[magic thunder]

it gets the job done tho

[fossil cedar]

Yepp

[potent portal]

Micro is fine, I find it can look neater even when you can't see the bottom headers and stuff as much

[digital trail]

hi

msi gaming geforce rts 3070 ti 8GB

AMD ryzen 9 5900x 12-core 3.7 hz

[fossil cedar]

@digital trail if youre trying to give us a list use https://pcpartpicker.com/list for your country

[digital trail]

is this perfect for play the crew 2 and rdr2 ultra with good fbs and easyleay?

[fossil cedar]

3070 ti and a 5900x? Depends on your budget, what settings and wjat resolution but if 1440p or lower, basically yeah

[digital trail]

4k ?

[earnest olive]

get a 5600x + 3080 instead

[fossil cedar]

^

[desert gulch]

^

[potent portal]

4k ultra is hard for anything to run smoothly

[digital trail]

i want a good price and good gameplay

[fossil cedar]

yeah 5600x and 3080/3080 ti/6800xt/6900xt

5900x isnt much better than 5600x

[digital trail]

the problem is littel high price

😦

[fossil cedar]

what country you in?

[digital trail]

ksa

[fossil cedar]

ksa?

also 4k is the i dont really have a budget option, 1440p would be a way better middleground and would be good for 3060 ti-3070 ti

[frank stirrup]

Saudi

Arabia

I think

[digital trail]

yup

[fossil cedar]

ahh

yeah, if 3080, 5600x out of your budget, get a 1440p monitor instead imo

[digital trail]

i want good card and good sitteng what i take?

[earnest olive]

👏 4k gaming is a meme 👏 1440p gang 👏

[fossil cedar]

1440p is good resolution for 3060 ti/3070/3070 ti/6700xt/6800

its better than 1080p, cheaper than 4k

looks better than 1080p

[digital trail]

thanks all 🙂

[fossil cedar]

np

[digital trail]

good luck all 🔆

[little osprey]

2k is very enough for gaming

I wish theres better dd5 rams around

I cant believe we stucked 4800mhz rams.

[fossil cedar]

even dd5 in stock would be nice xD

[earnest olive]

first gen ddr5 is doing a lot better than first gen ddr4

[little osprey]

Lol luckily i had pre-ordered

[earnest olive]

you should've seen how bad first gen ddr4 was

[digital trail]

im new in pc wolrd i just have now old laptop

[little osprey]

Lol yeah i remember

[fossil cedar]

good idea lol

[little osprey]

I built my 12900k already

[fossil cedar]

we all start somewhere

[little osprey]

Hugeeee difference between 10700k and 12900k lol

[fossil cedar]

nice whats the mobo /ram?

[little osprey]

Asus rog strix mobo and cheap crucial rams lol 32gb 4800mhz for 215$ + 20$ for rgb white heatsink

[potent portal]

Depends on monitor size and view distance

[little osprey]

Luckily my aio had kit for lga1700 already somehow lol even I bought it 2 months ago

[fossil cedar]

ntb, what latency?

[fossil cedar]

true but anything under like 32" is too small to see diff in games at 4k

[little osprey]

Its cl40 i believe lol

[fossil cedar]

Jedec, ahh well

[little osprey]

20fps difference between 10700k on 2k gaming

Huge difference on rendering . Minute and half against 5 minutes

[fossil cedar]

Damm

[little osprey]

E cores also maxing when you load big render

E cores not maxing while gaming i see . They only taking easy tasks

[potent portal]

As expected, but good to hear it's working as intended

[little osprey]

Yeah I was worrying about bracket for my aio

Luckily asus were included it few months ago lol

[quaint swan]

Aight thx

[fossil cedar]

np

[drifting garnet]

My dad's old PC I'm pretty sure the gpu is completely dead. The screen flickered after being in windows for about 30 seconds and went black. Restarted and turned back on, same thing and it just wouldn't display an image anymore even after restarting. Is it probably dead?

[potent portal]

Possibly, but first check with different ports and cables. If possible try it in another computer.
Which gpu exactly? Some of them you can bake in the oven to get a couple more months out of it.

[jagged ember]

that's why Jensen does it

[little osprey]

what’s a good bestbuy prebuilt for 1500$ (don’t ask why bestbuy lol)

[cosmic wraith]

@limber oyster I actually used a fan for extra cooling on my old desktop

It had overheating issues

[fossil cedar]

Can't order from newegg?

[stoic island]

Prob gift cards

[fossil cedar]

1500 in gift cards

[stoic island]

Nah, people get 100$ gift cards for birthday or something, and that makes best buy the best option for them

[fossil cedar]

Debatable but yeah fair

[stoic island]

I have 800$ in gift cards and 700$ cash, do I buy a 700$ PC from Newegg or 1500$ PC from best buy :p

[fossil cedar]

Well okay if you have that many but 1 100$ not worth it

[stoic island]

I'm just stating the possibility

And if you tell a few relatives you want money for a PC

That might mean like 500$ in bb gift cards

Yaknow

[little osprey]

someone i know is getting 10k from their uncle to put together a mining rig

i was like

"dang"

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[little osprey]

ikr 😔

[fossil cedar]

This is unfortunately the best bestbuy pc for under 1500 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-slate-mr-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-5600x-16gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-8gb-480gb-ssd-1tb-hdd/6485757.p?skuId=6485757

[stoic island]

Grab the Asus 3070 prebuilt for 1650$ if budget can be stretched

[fossil cedar]

Ehhhh idk, that asus prebuilt worse quality than ibuypower imo

[stoic island]

But 3070 lol

Leave side panel off for decent perf as long as they're willing to compressed air the dust out

[fossil cedar]

Lol yeah

That thing needs to be shipped without side panel i stg

Makes the h510 look good 😤

[stoic island]

Prob better than h510 still tbh

[fossil cedar]

Honestly don't know, h510 aint that bad, h510 elite on the other hand

[drifting garnet]

Its ancient. Its a ATI Radeon HD 4650

11 or 12 years old

[potent portal]

Sounds like a good candidate for the oven trick if it's still not working after testing like I said

It may or may not work but there's nothing to be lost trying if it's dead already

[celest horizon]

I wouldn't subject your oven/lungs to that. I think it's a better candidate for the garbage can local ewaste recycler trick.

[potent portal]

As long as you take off the plastic shroud and stuff and keep the pcb below 150C there's not too much to worry about for fumes

[vague oracle]

The fumes from the rosin still are very harmful

[drifting garnet]

I mean my dad already bas a new pc and its an old piece of junk gpu anyways.

[vague oracle]

And linger in the oven for a long time

[potent portal]

Might as well just toss it then if you don't need need it

(ewaste like forks said, or sell for parts)

Side note that's the same age as my laptop and same GPU series lol

Windows doesn't like the GPU any more, I have to run linux

[celest horizon]

Idk, I'm not an expert in pcb baking, but I wouldn't run something like that through anything that touches my food to try and save a $5 card

Hit it with a hair dryer or heat gun outside if anything

[potent portal]

Heat gun would be good yeah, or hot plate

[fathom shoal]

Can u send the link to it

[little osprey]

it this good deal ? 🤔 https://www.newegg.com/kingston-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820242621?Item=N82E16820242621&Description=32gb ram&cm_re=32gb_ram-_-20-242-621-_-Product

[obsidian wigeon]

Looks like a deal to me

3600c16

[little osprey]

this one is +25$ https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232861?Description=32gb 3600 cl16&cm_re=32gb_3600 cl16-_-20-232-861-_-Product&quicklink=true

[obsidian wigeon]

That's also nice

[earnest olive]

i see a problem with that first one

[little osprey]

but its timing is 16-19-19-39 while kingston have 16-20-20 timing

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh

I forgot about other timings lmao

The g.skill is better

[earnest olive]

ballistix is $5 more than the trident z on sale

[little osprey]

looking it for my coworker and he have 5800x cpu

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9y848d/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4w

[little osprey]

i dont like fancy high speed rams actually but i think amd cpus loves better rams

[earnest olive]

why do you not like fast ram lmao

intel benefits from fast ram just as much

latency is king

[little osprey]

i got slowest ddr5 ram right now lol

[earnest olive]

tired of the myth that ram isn't important for intel cpu

[little osprey]

i working on heavy load which is ram copacity is more important than speed lol

been working on 3200mhz rams on 10700k and my friend were like come on man this rams are too slow and gifted me trident z royal 4000mhz ones lol

[little osprey]

of course it is lol

pfft what? intel cpus dont need ram?

actually no cpus need ram

[obsidian wigeon]

they run off ssds

[little osprey]

literally just use your hard drive as ram

like it's cost effective so why not

durr

[obsidian wigeon]

when will we have cache as big as ram?

probably never

[little osprey]

nice idea lol

and my 12900k heating as hell

even with 360mm aio

[little osprey]

your solution ^

[obsidian wigeon]

ah yes

dip the rad in ice cold water

[little osprey]

lol

[celest horizon]

Why not both? https://i.imgur.com/KpIHhyw.png

[little osprey]

it hating up to 85C while rendering 🤔

[obsidian wigeon]

that's normal for such hot and hungry chip

[little osprey]

umm ofc faster rams are better but i dont like being fancy lol (totally lies)

yeah all cores maxing while rendering

even e cores

but E cores idling while gaming lol

[little osprey]

nope i got the credit or whatever thing there

[little osprey]

that one is better than this one right https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-trace-mr-gaming-desktop-intel-i7-11700f-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-6gb-480gb-ssd-1tb-hdd/6465329.p?skuId=6465329

nvm it’s pretty obvious

[hearty pumice]

The other one is more balanced, this one has a strong cpu with not good gpu

[little osprey]

alr thx

time to go to bestbuy tomorrow morning and return it and look for the balanced pc

[limber oyster]

Holy cow, might wait for the MSI z690 godlike

[pure isle]

Hello

Quick question for a noob

I want to build a pc but don't know how to go about it

Money range that I want to build for now is a 900 to 1000 pc build

Just to start

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

What's your use for the pc?

[pure isle]

I would like to game/stream

But for now just gaming

[fossil cedar]

Okay, and you're in the us right?

[pure isle]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7tsfJf

[pure isle]

Quick question where is the graphics card

Is it saying to use any of those that are showing

[frank stirrup]

The G in 5600G stands for ryzen cpu with gpu

The cpu has a gpu inside it

[pure isle]

Oh

[frank stirrup]

And you buy any of the cards in that list when you have the money

Or find em cheap

Till then igpu is fine

[fossil cedar]

So we're in a shortage atm, you can't reall be picky, and all of them but the 3060 and 3060 ti you'll need to find used, the 5600g will do you with onboard graphics till you can find a card

[frank stirrup]

Slow

LLLL

Hah!

[fossil cedar]

Shush

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/zipped-mouth-wont-tell-keep-a-secret-secret-genie-gif-7353714

[fossil cedar]

I gib windows site so suck it

😛

[frank stirrup]

I dont wanna suck it

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-way-never-nuh-uh-gif-14500720

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/rq-yay-rq-yes-cat-rq-rq-yes-yes-yes-gif-20226294

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-not-nope-no-no-way-no-chance-gif-17243246

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-yes-yes-yes-oh-fo-sho-for-sure-nods-gif-12018369

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/inauguration-cnn2017-donald-trump-finger-wag-no-gif-20640184

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/a-thousand-percent-jill-zarin-rhony-real-housewives-real-housewives-of-new-york-gif-12387645

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cat-shaking-head-nope-nah-gif-17505282

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-listen-here-my-buddy-president-garrison-canadian-minister-of-streaming-south-park-s21e9-gif-20404304

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-danny-de-vito-no-gif-8123780

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-why-you-little-gif-17376912