#building-and-recc-chat

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potent portal
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Mow lawns like I did at 13, I bought my own car at 16

worn wave
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Sometimes in life there are more important things you have to pay for

potent portal
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That's a processor that's literally from 2010, it'll definitely be the bottleneck

gritty ruin
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Good build for max graphics gaming?

potent portal
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Max 1080p maybe, 1440 high or so depending on title

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Could have saved some money and gotten a B560 board instead of Z490

gritty ruin
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I had the z490 since january

potent portal
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Looks good to me then

rugged heron
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Is this good?

real geyser
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buy low sell high

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get a job, get a side hustle, or just deal with it

potent portal
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Looks ok to me @rugged heron . Not great value but what is these days.

real geyser
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maybe get good grades

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all As => parents buy you PC for christmas

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who knows

little osprey
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Yea I would reach out to local businesses or schools who were trying to get rid of unwanted hardware, and sell what I could get.

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One time I got two X79 boards from a business that was gonna throw them away

spice prairie
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How i made money was reselling rare Japanese car parts

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I bought rare car grills and sold them

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And also car badges, radiator caps, etc

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Car accessories basically

potent portal
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@spice prairie #rules Number 9, no buying, selling, etc please

elfin schooner
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guys i was so pumped to get my 4133 patriot viper rgb's today.... and my pc doesnt run them. even though the XMP profile is set, system struggles to boot a couple times before it loads and they default to 2133mhz. what am i doing wrong? is my mobo messed up? its the gigabyte aorus x570 elite wifi

potent portal
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Ryzen doesn't like to do memory that fast

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Well, it can but it takes more than just enabling XMP

elfin schooner
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what do i need to do? never really customized the frequency or timings of my ram before

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should i slow it down to like 3800 and see what happens?

potent portal
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Can you snap a picture of the white sticker on the memory? That should give an idea of what ICs are on it and what it's capable of.

elfin schooner
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you bet 1 sec

slow meadow
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Slow it down to 3600mhz and see if it acts normal

elfin schooner
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Can’t figure out how to post a pic from my phone? Haha but it says ddr4 RGB 2x8gb 4133mhz cl19 1.4v

potent portal
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DM it to me

elfin schooner
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done

potent portal
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Boy that says a whole lot of nothing, but some useful points are the model number, CAS latency, and voltage.

elfin schooner
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lmao

potent portal
earnest olive
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try 3600 18-22-22-42 1.35v with infinity fabric manually set to 1800

elfin schooner
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correct, thats the one

earnest olive
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you can tune it from there but first let's see if it posts

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alternatively, if you don't want to go through the ram tuning process, return it and buy a kit rated for 3600

potent portal
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I'm going to guess that it can do 1.45v 3800 16-16-16-36 at least, if not lower timings

earnest olive
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ryzen does not like to run with such high ram speeds in coupled mode

elfin schooner
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i'm pretty old and stupid fellas, ill need a minute to mess w/ the bios to figure this out. ill get it tho ha. lemme start tinkering

earnest olive
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if you don't want to tinker you can return it

elfin schooner
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i dont mind tinkering. but it does have me wondering if i overpaid for something my mobo cant even handle or something

earnest olive
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think only b-die will run flat 16s

elfin schooner
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it is b-die, thats part of why i bought them

earnest olive
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not a mobo problem

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not a problem at all

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just how ryzen works

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you could run it at 4133 if you really wanted to

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it would murder your performance

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but you could

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ryzen has an interconnect system between the core chiplets, i/o die, etc

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"coupled mode" refers to running this interconnect system, known as the infinity fabric, at the same speed as the memory

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doing so presents a huge benefit for the latency, which is one of the most important performance metrics for gaming

elfin schooner
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there are 5 timings in my bios: CAS latency, trcdrd, trcdwr, trp, and tras

earnest olive
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you can desync them by running the infinity fabric at half of the memory speed, which will allow you to push very high memory speeds

spice prairie
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Whats the highest speed that is efficient

earnest olive
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but you gain latency and it's not worth doing compared to just running tighter timings at lower speeds

earnest olive
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you have to do your own testing

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mine will boot up to 4000 but performs best at 3800, so I tightened timings at 3800

earnest olive
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should be secondaries, tertiaries, cad bus, RTTs, etc. if you scroll down

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anyways

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tCL 18
tRCDWR 22
tRCDWR 22
tRP 22
tRAS 46

DRAM voltage 1.35v
VSOC 1.1v
Infinity fabric 1800mhz

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I know these are very loose but we're just checking that it turns on first

spice prairie
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Im really close to getting a ryzen 9 5960x

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5950x*

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I dont know much about ryzen

elfin schooner
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ok thank you. 1 sec still setting everything

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oddly enough i cant find the memory frequency to set it to 3600 manually. i have everything else set

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yeah cant find it anywhere. it also makes no sense that the XMP profile says 4133 mhz but the active memory speed in the bios shows 2139.73 MHz

potent portal
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If the memory overclocking is a separate menu the frequency is usually on the main overclocking menu

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Same with the voltage

potent portal
earnest olive
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nice

elfin schooner
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system back up and running but HWinfo says my ram once again has defaulted to 2133mhz, 15-15--15-36. after saving from bio it also shut down, started up, then immediately shut down. started up again, shut down, then fully started up

quasi knot
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is 3200mhz cl16 12-16-16-32 good ram

elfin schooner
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Update: upped voltage to 1.5 and enabled XMP on top of manual settings suggested above and my pc boots normally now. Hwinfo shows the correct frequency and timings I set

potent portal
vague oracle
potent portal
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Bit high price for a 960

odd crypt
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Ik

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I'm just trying to find a good graphics card that is below 250

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This is kind of stressing me out

trail sundial
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The 980 is available for around 250

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and it has considerably better performance

odd crypt
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That's if u find a luck bid

potent portal
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It'll work but that memory... oof

odd crypt
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I've found them all at 250 with bids

trail sundial
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huh, I looked just yesterday and saw two at 250 and not bids

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crazy how fast they sell I guess

odd crypt
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Yea

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I would ask people if they could sell me one in the discord but it's a rule u cant

potent portal
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You can always watch r/hardwareswap for a deal

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Or check local listings on facebook/craigslist

odd crypt
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I'm 14

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I cant have Facebook yet

potent portal
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Yep that limits your options a bit

odd crypt
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Yeeeaaaaa

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Sadly it does

little osprey
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Can you use ebay?

odd crypt
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Yea

little osprey
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ebay usually has good deals

odd crypt
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I would go to microcenter it's the fact my mom wont go

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Cause it's to "far"

potent portal
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I don't think they have any GPUs under $250 anyway

vague oracle
odd crypt
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yeaaah no

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And I really am tired of these bots buying them as soon as they are on market

flint sapphire
vague oracle
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Same thing happened to me kekw

vague oracle
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I offered to sell a 6700k/RX480 build to a friend for $600

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He cancelled on me the day of pickup and ended up buying a GT710 iBuyPower for $900

odd crypt
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Ew

vague oracle
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Now he keeps complaining to me why his old laptop runs better than his desktop

flint sapphire
odd crypt
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I wished covid didnt happen at all honestly

flint sapphire
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Most do

kind vortex
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you guys know how to update a mainboard bios without the cpu

potent portal
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Only if it has flashback

near sequoia
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Yo, in the middle of building my pc. Anyone want to join me in vc? Also my first build.

earnest olive
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are you going to sing us a song

vague oracle
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You can sing me a song sips

valid bronze
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Sips please sing

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And put recording in pinned messages :)

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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send me a 3090 and I'll think about it

frank stirrup
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only for you

flint sapphire
earnest olive
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back when I streamed my friends begged me to do a singing stream lmao

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apparently I'm good at it or something

frank stirrup
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sing rn

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and send

frank stirrup
flint sapphire
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Sing a sing song like a Irish drinking song

frank stirrup
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dont make me spank u

earnest olive
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I'll sing a song in vc after you come over and physically install a 3090 white strix into my system

flint sapphire
frank stirrup
earnest olive
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bring a 3x8 strimer as well, mine is only 2x8

flint sapphire
earnest olive
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alright

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3080 to sing

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3090 and you can record it

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has to be a white strix or pad modded vision

frank stirrup
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if I could afford any gpu it would go into my system

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best I can do is a kit of ripjaws

earnest olive
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your rx 570 is feeling very offended rn

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you just called it not a gpu smh

frank stirrup
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I cant afford anymore

frank stirrup
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I spent all monry on ram and monitor

earnest olive
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he?

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does your rx 570 identify as a male

frank stirrup
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Yes my rx570 is a dude and identifies as phil

earnest olive
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that's wild

frank stirrup
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indeed

little osprey
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My Fury X identifies as hot

obsidian wigeon
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hot gpus are hot

valid bronze
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I have a hot gpu

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One time she was 78 degrees C

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Or is my gpu a he?

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How do you tell if gpu is male or female? @ everyone

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Lol

earnest olive
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my old 1080ti used to hit 92c

valid bronze
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Youch

earnest olive
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small dual fan zotac card being pushed to 370W in a case with a solid front panel

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I didn't know what I was doing

valid bronze
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Wohhhh

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That’s a lot of power

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Also, you have experience with hot gpus. How do you tell if theyre male or female

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@earnest olive

obsidian wigeon
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lmao

valid bronze
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It’s serious. Don’t laugh.

little osprey
valid bronze
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Hopefully they would be like rabbits. Cheap and often reproducers.

little osprey
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we dont talk about that here. it's unethical.

obsidian wigeon
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^

valid bronze
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They would fall under the same category as animals, like rabbits.

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And even if it weren’t ethical, who would care cause we could all have gpus

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Right?

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Nope

little osprey
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smh my head.

valid bronze
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I’m smh my head too

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I have found a deep question ill never know the answer to

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Ill sleep on it.

little osprey
valid bronze
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lel

grizzled verge
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can someone help me build a pc for 2000 dollars? or 3000

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im at the southeast asia region

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I saw something for 4000 dollars with a 3080ti and a r9 5900

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I dont know if this is a good price for todays market

earnest olive
frank stirrup
grizzled verge
earnest olive
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ah, PH

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I've heard it's a disaster there for PC part prices

grizzled verge
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I could get parts around the country

spice prairie
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I just wanna give them a reason to actually hire me

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But im technically am supposed to only get experience rn

earnest olive
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you don't have a workstation at work for it?

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I doubt that "owning a 5950x" is a big resume item ngl

spice prairie
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They’re getting into manufacturing their own billet parts

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Oh no thats part of a reason but i do editing as a hobby

earnest olive
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they shouldn't care much about what kind of hardware you have at home when they can just write off a threadripper as a business expense

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if you do editing as a hobby, it depends on how serious that hobby is for you

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a 5600x is more than enough for most video editing hobbyists

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I used to do hobbyist video editing on an i7-5500U

spice prairie
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Well its a maybe rn since they’re still deciding their on making their own parts rather than having a company do it for them. But i also have money to burn

earnest olive
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that's a 2.4ghz dual core on the broadwell architecture

potent portal
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If knocking a render time down from 40 minutes to 25 minutes is worth the extra $1000, more power to you

earnest olive
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if you have money to burn then sure

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but most hobbyists aren't rendering enough video for those few minutes to matter

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I used to just render all my videos overnight

spice prairie
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I do editing for fun and its also just that i have money to burn rn

earnest olive
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and it didn't matter because I would maybe make one or two a month

earnest olive
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it took 20 minutes to render each minute of 1080p30 video

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but I lived with it

little osprey
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jeez

earnest olive
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when I built my first pc with a 3600x

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it was down to 52 seconds per minute of 1080p30

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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what hardware do you have now? weren't you the one with a 10700K

spice prairie
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Rn i check tolerances of every engine block we get from the company that make the billet parts. They talked about getting a machine to do that on the job site and them giving me a responsibility to build a computer to handle it and me expanding what i do as an intern can also lead to me just straight up getting a job because i would be checking tolerances and making engine parts with a 3d machine

earnest olive
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you might as well wait 2 months and get alder lake

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12900K beats 5950x in MT from many leaks

potent portal
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... So you're basically asking us to do your job kekw

earnest olive
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leaks are leaks sure but if they're all saying the same thing it's probably true

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esp when we're this close to launch

potent portal
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Intel has been intentionally leaking, I'm convinced of it. Even more so after I met one of the employees working on Alchemist.

earnest olive
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lol, leaking is one of the best marketing tools nowadays

little osprey
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^

earnest olive
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I've heard the term "drip marketing" used

little osprey
potent portal
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Free hype, and then if it falls flat "oh the leaks were wrong"

spice prairie
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What would ryzen be releasing

earnest olive
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zen 3 refresh is up next before zen 4 iirc

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a 5950x with triple the cache

little osprey
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dang wasnt my joke funny guys

potent portal
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We're not sure on the next gen stuff

earnest olive
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actually likely to be competitive with alder lake

little osprey
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💀

earnest olive
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but will come out later

spice prairie
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If i can still do my job im just gonna get one rn

earnest olive
little osprey
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lmao

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mission success

spice prairie
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Are they switching to a new socket?

potent portal
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Yes

earnest olive
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yes

frank stirrup
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yes

little osprey
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classic intel move

earnest olive
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both intel and amd will

little osprey
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It's understandable for AMD at least

earnest olive
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intel from LGA1200 to LGA1700

potent portal
earnest olive
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amd from PGA1331 to LGA1718

little osprey
earnest olive
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I mean...

potent portal
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Oh that

earnest olive
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it's going to a new memory standard

spice prairie
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Thats why i hate intel but still bought from them

potent portal
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Yeah they pretty much have to this time

spice prairie
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Just like how everyone still buy’s apple

earnest olive
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there would never have been a chance to upgrade to 12th gen on z590

frank stirrup
potent portal
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The chips are even shaped differently so that'll be interesting

earnest olive
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ddr4 and ddr5 have fundamental differences in power delivery that make them practically impossible to coexist on the same motherboard

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but also, Intel has switched sockets every 2 generations so it should really not be a surprise

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also, let's not pretend amd are angels here

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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did we forget that they went back on their promise of "am4 supported through 2020"

spice prairie
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I might buy rn then if i want anything from the newest gen i will just sell or trade

earnest olive
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they tried to lock b450 and x470 out of zen 3

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watched the community burn for like a week

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and then finally conceded

frank stirrup
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and they did lock zen 3 out of x370

earnest olive
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ASRock got zen 3 working on their x370 boards

frank stirrup
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even tho asrock had bioses that supported

earnest olive
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and amd blocked them from continuing with that

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because amd wanted more $$$

potent portal
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Well yeah after Asrock put out the bios that supported 5000 on B350 and X370 lol

earnest olive
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to this day there is an asrock beta bios for x370 floating around that supports zen 3 perfectly

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there are people running 5950x on x370

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and get this

potent portal
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Asrock forced their hand, saying "look it's possible after all"

earnest olive
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some people have even used modded asrock bios code on asus x370

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and guess what

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zen 3 works

potent portal
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Yeah it's theoretically easy to update agesa code

earnest olive
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so let's please not pretend that amd is any better than intel

potent portal
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Better but still not perfect

earnest olive
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at least intel doesn't set expectations that their socket will last more than 2 generations

spice prairie
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I just supported intel since my cousin worked there. Thats it

earnest olive
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x370 users expected their motherboard to be supported through 2020 like amd promised

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zen 3 was a 2020 release

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so how come amd lied to them?

potent portal
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I wasn't falling for that, I waited for second gen to upgrade my FX 8300

vague oracle
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I wish AM4 would stay ssadge

earnest olive
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btw, is there any reason corecycler wouldn't work for testing an intel undervolt?

spice prairie
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When are motherboards to support the new socket supposed to be expected

earnest olive
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I know it was designed for ryzen

spice prairie
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Idk if i should wait now

frank stirrup
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sippy app to undervolt an amd laptop?

potent portal
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Throttlestop not working?

frank stirrup
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ryzen master or is there better alternative

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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I think ryzen mobile has an unofficial app named ryzen controller for that

frank stirrup
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does it

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am i gopinf crazy

earnest olive
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I am pretty sure throttlestop is Intel only

potent portal
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I wasn't sure that's why the '?'

earnest olive
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well time to try corecycler on intel cpu

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even if it's designed for ryzen knowing what it does i see no reason for it to not work on intel

night juniper
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guys..
most nvme run on x4 right..
if the ssd connected to pcie 2.0 x16 to nvme expansion card (the card runs in x16)
will it use the x16 lane or still run on x4?

https://www.orico.me/product/orico-m-2-nvme-to-pci-e-3-0-x16-expansion-card-psm2-x16/

ORICO

Product Specification:

Internal InterfaceM.2 M-key Interface
Supported SlotsPCI-e 3.0 Gen3 X16
Supported SSD2230/2242/2260/2280, PCI-E Channel NVME Protocol M.2 SSD
Supported SystemIOS, Windows7/8/10, Linux
Transmission speed32Gbps(theoretical speed)(NVME protocol)
Supported Capacity2TB Single Disk
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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yeah itll do pcie 2 x4

night juniper
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isee.. thanks guys

obsidian wigeon
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pcie 2.0

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hm that platform is probably too old to boot from the drive btw

frank stirrup
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rather get a sata ssd over pcie 2

obsidian wigeon
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not probably, it is too old

frank stirrup
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^

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100% just get a sata ssd

night juniper
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ahaha i got b450m but the nvme already used, planning to get another ssd

obsidian wigeon
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oh

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that mobo has no pcie 2.0 lol

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it's more like 3.0

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that card is 3.0, so it shouldn't have much issues

night juniper
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  • 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slot (PCIE2: x16 mode)*
  • 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 Slot (PCIE3: x4 mode)
    got those from mobo manual
    is it still ok?
    the card is pcie 3 x16 but the slot was pcie2 x16 (but using pcie3 x4 lane(cmiiw))

im little bit confused hahaha

fossil cedar
covert vapor
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Those NVME PCIe expansions use 4 lanes but are sized up to fit in a x16 slot in order to be put in without needing to also use a slot of the case PCIe slot covers, they don't actually use 16 lanes. PCIe 3 is backwards compatible with PCIe 2, but as others have said, don't bother with it if you want to use PCIe 2 for an NVME drive, it isn't worth it

earnest olive
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when it says PCIE3 there, it's strictly referring to the third slot

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"- 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 Slot (PCIE3: x4 mode)" means there is a pcie 2.0 x16 slot running at 2.0 x4

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basically, it's meant for some accessories that don't need much bandwidth, such as wifi card, sound card, usb hub

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for example, 2.0 x4 is enough to power a pcie card with 4 usb 3.0 ports

fleet pagoda
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Is this even considered winning the newegg shuffle

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That price

little osprey
earnest olive
fleet pagoda
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Could get 2 FE 3080tis for that price

earnest olive
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yeah but

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asus moment

night juniper
lavish chasm
lost crypt
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im new to pc what is better gtx 1050ti 4gb or gtx 560 4gb and does nividia still support 560s?

little osprey
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1050ti, and no

vague oracle
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Anyone know why my monitor brightness keeps changing by itself?

worn wave
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Automatic brightness adjustment

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Some monitors have sensors that adjust the brightness

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Look in the settings for an option to disable it possibly

vague oracle
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Nothing like that in win11

worn wave
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I mean on the monitors settings

golden fable
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@wispy matrix Hey, thanks for offering actual help.

wispy matrix
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np

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need a budget to help and what are you gonna use it for laptop or pc

golden fable
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Laptop, and I'm expecting this to be expensive. I'd prefer cheaper, but that's what turned me toward Apple in the first place, so about $2000 max.

wispy matrix
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alright

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since i saw you said you are using it for business use

golden fable
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I don't want to skimp on CPU, I'm basically running my non-profit by myself via my computer right now. Which means I'm doing everything from budgeting to graphic design and my Chrome is basically always open

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and I also game a bit on it, and stream videos and music

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(as it's also my personal computer)

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My main thing is just that I've been away from Windows OS since somewhere around 2013 so I really don't know what the comparisons are anymore or what I'd need for like... Protective software.

I know Windows had this big revelation that people don't like overpaying for virus software and whatnot but one of the main draws to Apple at the time was that I didn't have to deal with getting ripped off by places like Avast or McAfee

wispy matrix
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so technically a workstation

golden fable
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Yeah, but I'm worried that's too much of a powerhorse?

wispy matrix
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it shouldnt be too much of a powerhorse

golden fable
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Okay, so from there my research steered me toward Lenovo, HP and Dell.

wispy matrix
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i am having someone to help us out

golden fable
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Alright. Thanks again for taking my inquiry seriously

wispy matrix
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yeah its no problem i had nothing to do

earnest olive
wispy matrix
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your good with laptop specs thats why i pinged you

earnest olive
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are you going to do any actually intensive productivity workloads on it

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immense excel spreadsheets with many functions/macros/automation

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video editing

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3d rendering

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etc.

wispy matrix
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@golden fable

earnest olive
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windows built in antivirus is good enough

wispy matrix
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all he said was he was running a non profit and he is doing everything from budgeting to graphic design

earnest olive
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and what games do you play on it

wispy matrix
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so i figured workstation laptop

earnest olive
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cause it really sounds like you should just buy a gaming laptop

golden fable
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Hi, yes sorry

earnest olive
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gaming laptops tend to have powerful cpus that can do productivity tasks as well

kind vortex
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is the 3 2300x good anymore?

wispy matrix
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its decent

earnest olive
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it's like, 4th gen i5 level

wispy matrix
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i have one

kind vortex
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oh ok

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i shall buy a gt 1030

earnest olive
kind vortex
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cause i only play minecraft and roblox

earnest olive
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and it cost less lol

wispy matrix
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sorry i dont know much about laptops

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just trying to help

kind vortex
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it workstation not a gaming laptop

earnest olive
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dell is bad

wispy matrix
golden fable
earnest olive
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yeah if you do really serious production work you should be building a desktop workstation

golden fable
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Like I do a lot but the most design-work do is 2D rendering (canva and stuff) and bare-bones web-design, social media posts, that sort of thing

kind vortex
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wait can i play warzone on a gt 1030 lol

earnest olive
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and using a laptop to remote into it if you need power on the go

wispy matrix
golden fable
earnest olive
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yeah sounds like you would be fine with just a regular laptop with at least 16gb of ram

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so just get a gaming laptop that suits your budget

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unless you only play like, maplestory or something lol

golden fable
#

Alright, excellent.

earnest olive
#

then you can just get something real cheap

golden fable
#

lol I knew I recognised your avatar from somewhere

earnest olive
#

i don't play anymore but i love orange mushroom

cerulean root
earnest olive
#

so what games do you play

earnest olive
#

i will find you a laptop for it

golden fable
#

My Steam wishlist is rife with Windows-only downloads that're just waiting for me to switch back over lol

cerulean root
kind vortex
earnest olive
#

want to just max out your budget then? what is your budget

wispy matrix
#

its 2k

earnest olive
#

2k

golden fable
#

And I'd prefer not to max it, if I can help it

wispy matrix
#

i was looking at the Zephyrus

earnest olive
#

you can get something pretty high end for that

kind vortex
#

i want to build a laptop

analog hearth
#

no

earnest olive
#

do you have a costco membership? @golden fable

golden fable
earnest olive
#

actually i'm not sure if you need a costco membership to buy a laptop from costco.com

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but i'm going to give this one a strong recommendation

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it's similar to mine and it's on sale for $300 off right now

kind vortex
#

sheesh 3070

wispy matrix
#

oh wow thats a good price

earnest olive
#

$1500 is a very good price for these specs

golden fable
#

woof, okay lemme go take a look

earnest olive
#

i7-11800H will shred any productivity you throw at it, even heavy video editing

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and the 140W RTX 3070 will run any game you want it to

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also, as a bonus, it doesn't look very gamer-y

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go ahead and bring it to a meeting

golden fable
#

cool, although that's definitely not a problem for me lol

earnest olive
#

i prefer a laptop that has gaming power without looking gamer-y

wispy matrix
#

thats def good with the specs because some of the specs on amazon you would find a laptop paired with a 3060 with this price

earnest olive
#

it's got a per-key rgb keyboard yeah, but you can set it to white

golden fable
#

ooookay so apparently that particular one isn't available on the canadian version of costco. lemme check amazon...

earnest olive
#

ohh you're canadian

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okay

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that changes things

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let me take a look

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so i assume that's 2000 cad not 2000 usd lol

golden fable
#

Oh sorry.. Yeah I usually don't really care because I can typically find a conversion pretty easily but 😅

earnest olive
#

i was looking for sales in the US

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now i am looking for sales in canada

golden fable
#

Sorry, I should have mentioned earlier

wispy matrix
kind vortex
#

sheesh 3060

earnest olive
golden fable
earnest olive
#

that one has a 10th gen cpu, wouldn't recommend it if an 11th gen or ryzen 5000 can be found

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there is a HUGE difference between intel 10th and intel 11th in laptops

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finally went to a new architecture after 5 years

wispy matrix
#

yeah im gonna let you take over since you know more mushroom

golden fable
#

Thank you for your help Señor!

earnest olive
#

looking at the canadian laptop landscape is really depressing compared to the US

kind vortex
#

wait what u gonna buy a gaming laptop

golden fable
#

Tell me about it.

earnest olive
#

hello

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don't really have time for troubleshooting right now, was going to finish helping this person and get back to work

#

sorry

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i'm just taking a break from physics homework right now

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i hate physics homework

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air resistance, terminal velocity, and centripetal force at bank angles

kind vortex
earnest olive
#

it's got a nice 130 watts available to the GPU and factory applied liquid metal which means it'll have better cooling performance than other laptops

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i put liquid metal on my laptop myself, results were quite nice

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ryzen 9 5900hx is a great workstation-capable mobile processor

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16gb ram and 512gb ssd, storage is expandable

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looks significantly more gamery but you mentioned not caring much about that

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and it's not quite maxing out your budget

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should treat you well for the next few years, ryzen 9 5900hx under liquid metal will age gracefully

golden fable
#

lol also the benefit of pretty colours

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That's honestly what I'm wanting, the ageing gracefully

earnest olive
#

it's got 2 physical memory slots

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so you could upgrade it to 32gb or 64gb down the line if you feel you need more for your workload

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for what you do right now, 16gb is good enough

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8 core 16 thread processor on the current newest architecture for AMD

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that won't be obsolete for a while

golden fable
earnest olive
#

ooh ouch

obsidian wigeon
#

Just to randomly add, the advantage edition of that strix g15 (the one with rx 6800m) sucks

golden fable
#

yeah it's an old computer 😅

obsidian wigeon
#

Its liquid metal application is bad

earnest olive
#

working with 4gb ram has to hurt

obsidian wigeon
#

Compared to normal versions with nvidia gpu

earnest olive
#

i had to upgrade my mom to 16gb for her office work

obsidian wigeon
#

So many died from the lm leaking

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Not that one sips gave ya tho

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That one's good

golden fable
earnest olive
golden fable
#

and honestly "same" but like, you have to dude.

earnest olive
#

give it some coffee

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works for humans, why not on laptops

golden fable
#

Lol I don't think it'd appreciate that laughingteddy

earnest olive
#

hmm, worked for me

golden fable
#

lmao

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smooth

earnest olive
#

uh oh, too much

golden fable
#

Alright, I think I'm good now. My main worry was that I wasn't sure what level of draw I'd need or if a gaming computer would work effectively as a work computer.

golden fable
earnest olive
golden fable
#

And y'all are sure the built in virus protector is fine?

earnest olive
#

it's the only one i have on my personal pc

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it gets regular updates from microsoft for virus definitions

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and supports scheduled background scanning

#

don't really need any more

golden fable
#

Alright, thank you so much for your help!

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I really appreciate you taking time out of your studies to do so

earnest olive
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no problem

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i think i'm fed up with physics for the day anyways, have a bit of a headache

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but i got 2 problems left so maybe i ought to just power through

golden fable
#

All the power to you!

earnest olive
misty prairie
#

#build-advice just acquired a ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti V2 OC Edition Gaming Graphics Card and am considering my 1st actual build... here is my current parts list what do you think? https://newegg.io/a9e45521 any advice will help

wispy matrix
#

also the case comes with fans

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well if you want more fans thats fine

misty prairie
misty prairie
wispy matrix
#

next time if you are making a list and use pcpartpicker

earnest olive
#

10700K on a lower tier B560 that will vrm throttle it?

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strange choice

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that board isn't even good enough to fully unlock power limits on an i5-11400 iirc

floral ore
earnest olive
drifting spire
#

How does one approach liquid loops?

potent portal
#

GPU block (must fit exactly)
CPU block
Tubing
fittings
Radiators
Pump
Reservoir
Fluid
I'm sure I missed something so someone will chime in lol

little osprey
#

o-rings :)

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they do come with fittings though so yea...

novel plank
#

Can someone send me a good pre built

obsidian wigeon
#

Budget?

novel plank
#

1500

drifting spire
#

@potent portal do you have a recommendation for brands for those things? I wanna do a loop but I haven’t really seen or heard too much

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I have a workshop I can use

obsidian wigeon
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do something like this one

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cheapest 3060ti atm

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a lil more but better case

potent portal
# drifting spire <@396513761550270464> do you have a recommendation for brands for those things? ...

A lot of this is opinion from here on
Alphacool and EKWB have good GPU blocks, EKWB and Watercool have good CPU blocks, Alphacool makes good radiators, Bitspower fittings, Noctua D5 is a great pump/reservoir combo, I like EKWB Cryofuel for fluid, tubing is up to preference mostly (clear, solid color, frosted, hard, soft... too many options)
FANS, that's what I forgot! Arctic P12 are really good budget fans but if you want to spend more Vardar fans are awesome

drifting spire
#

I ended up with 6 Corsair rgb fans for like 100 off, but I have 15 p12 rn

potent portal
#

Don't put Aluminum and nickel or copper in the same loop, and avoid silver and nickel. That way things don't corrode as much.

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Nickel and copper together are fine

little osprey
#

ihs moment

potent portal
#

IHS doesn't have fluid flowing over it to promote corrosion

little osprey
#

i was referring to the nickel and copper part lol

drifting spire
#

So if I am aiming for materials, should I just do nickel amd copper?

frank stirrup
#

yeh

little osprey
#

That's if you have to mix metals, just try to go for same metals in your parts

frank stirrup
#

aluminium bad

little osprey
#

aloominum

potent portal
#

Copper plates are preferred over nickel when you get the blocks, more heat transfer

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Then you can do nickel everything else, like fittings

celest horizon
#

Rather - nothing in a pc will be solid nickel or nickel alloy of any kind.

potent portal
#

True enough, the difference is slight

celest horizon
#

Well, no, solid nickel would be significantly worse in thermals than copper.

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Copper has 4x higher thermal conductivity

potent portal
#

Solid sure but it's plated copper usually like you said (but not always, doesn't hurt to check)

celest horizon
#

I guarantee there has never been a solid nickel/nickel alloy waterblock on the market, lol

#

Maybe aluminum for the real cheap stuff, maybe some weird anodized brass for the really cheap aliexpress stuff

potent portal
#

Yeah that's probably what I was thinking of, aluminum

little osprey
#

hey can someone find best value for $1000 prebuilt?

#

looking for the best bang for my buck

little osprey
#

what about this one

wispy matrix
#

no cyberpower

little osprey
#

how come

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bad ?

#

my friend is looking for one

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and he sent me that but im not so sure its the greatest

wispy matrix
frank stirrup
#

1650 is poopy

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the abs one i linked is 1660 super

wispy matrix
#

oh its 2 am give me a min

frank stirrup
#

I would wait till it come back in stock

frank stirrup
#

nerd

little osprey
#

i think both can acheive 144 fps in low settings in most games

wispy matrix
wispy matrix
#

ye the 2060 is better

little osprey
#

yeah but will it make that much of a difference if the other parts is being cheaped out on

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like the ram and mobo

#

this is the one he wants

frank stirrup
#

Ok?

#

whats being cheaped out on

#

only ram

wispy matrix
#

well cyberpowerpc isnt that great

frank stirrup
#

2 alternatives

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@little osprey

odd crypt
#

This worth?

obsidian wigeon
#

not bad

fossil cedar
#

That's nice

obsidian wigeon
#

get it before someone does lel

lost crypt
#

i have a question i want to buy a pc on new egg its a ipason it has a ryzen 5 gtx 1050ti 8gb of ddr4 ram but doesent list any other parts put the phot is completly built does it come with the whole thing or just those parts? and btw this pc is 700$ and seems really good for the price these days

fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

the ryzen 5 is a 2600

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the problem is i dont know what gpu are good and bad

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i wanted a ryzen 3 and a good gpu but i dont know which gpu is good

fossil cedar
#

@lost crypt what's your budget? And i assume you're in the us?

lost crypt
#

my budgets 700$ and need a prebuilt

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but i dont want to buy off ebay

fossil cedar
#

Lemme see what there is

lost crypt
#

PASON - Gaming Desktop - Ryzen 5 3600 (6 Core 12 Thread up to 4.2GHz) - NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 4GB - 8GB DDR4 3200MHz - 256GB SSD - 550W -Windows 10 home - RGB Fans - Gaming PC

does this sound any good? cause i was planning on upgrading from 8 ddr4 ram anyways and buying a hardrive

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its 650$ btw

lost crypt
#

how do i uprgrade the pavillion tho?

#

and i thought hp was not a good brand?

#

can you take the case front off so i can add a hard drive and 8 gb of ram?

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and it doesent say what ram it has? cause i want to upgrade it and i dont know its its ddr4 or not

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

ok and do you know if it has a hard drive bay? or am i going to have to duct tape it?

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and im probaly going to buy corsair 8gb ddr4 ram

fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

so should i duct tape it?

fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

ok so i prob shouldent mix to rams so i should just buy 16 gb then sell the other

#

it does have a ssd and hdd tray btw

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

alr sounds good im going to quickly send hdd

night juniper
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

alr sounds good i appecate it alot hopefully you aint trynna waste my money lol

fossil cedar
#

I aint lol but you're welcome

#

Check my roles sure xD

lost crypt
#

lol i really wish this pc was still 550$ good old days

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i found it on the actually hp website for 650$

fossil cedar
#

Ohh nice

fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

oh great!

fossil cedar
#

But yeah just get the base model and add your own ram and hdd

#

Because hp are charging 100$ for 2x8gb ram instead of 2x4gb smhmyhead

civic tusk
#

That hp prebuilt is garbage

lost crypt
#

not garbage for 650$

civic tusk
#

Sure if you want to look at it like that

fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

besides im gunna put 16gb ram in it

civic tusk
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
civic tusk
lost crypt
#

that gpu is pretty good for 650$ lol

civic tusk
#

"embarrassingly bad" to quote

fossil cedar
#

@civic tusk they can buy that or a cyperpower pc with a gt 1030 thinkies

#

@lost crypt just do a fresh windows install when you get the pc

lost crypt
#

what does that mean?

fossil cedar
#

Well i mean not necessary but I'd recommend

lost crypt
#

ok i prob want cause im not good with pcs

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

btw im watching some reviews seems it can run 1080 p super well on most games and im sure 16gb ram will be much better

civic tusk
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
lost crypt
#

how do i know what speed the motherboard suports for the ram

civic tusk
#

It would be listed in the specs for the motherboard

lost crypt
#

the motherboard is not listed in the pc

fossil cedar
# lost crypt how do i know what speed the motherboard suports for the ram

Just get the kit i sent you, motherboard max ram speed is not really relevant on Ryzen as Ryzens ram speed is limited by something else you don't need to worry about called the infinity fabric, just get the 3200mhz ram i linked you, that should be supported anyway as the system comes with 3200mhz ram

lost crypt
#

ok will do and btw is there a reason the price was different on the to pcs

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from bestbuy and hp website

fossil cedar
trail sundial
#

Would the e5-2697-v3 bottleneck the gtx 980? I want to make a workstation build that can also do light gaming.

#

And I know that xeon cpus don't typically have great single core scores.

fossil cedar
trail sundial
#

I was going to get a newer setup but the xeons have great multi core performance for their price

#

cheap enough that I could actually get a 980 instead of an apu

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
trail sundial
#

big credit to Far

#

who basically found the cpu and mobo

fossil cedar
trail sundial
#

I would prefer a hdd for the time being

fossil cedar
#

Even if it's just a 500gb ssd

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Heck a 120gb ssd but they're dumb to buy these days

trail sundial
#

ok then, I need to get ram, an ssd, and a new psu

#

cuz apparently my thermaltake smart is gonna start a fire

fossil cedar
#

Yeah

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@trail sundial what's the total budget?

marble gust
#

SSD are cheap. You can get a 500gb for 40 dollars. Also, don't get a WD blue. 5400rpm is too slow. 7200rpm or a WD black

fossil cedar
#

Nah 5400rpm is fine for storage

trail sundial
fossil cedar
trail sundial
#

yep

fossil cedar
#

Grand

trail sundial
#

I like my case

fossil cedar
#

Decent airflow?

trail sundial
#

it's currently on my i7-950, and yeah

#

has space for 6 3.5" drives

#

and 4 2.5", I think

fossil cedar
#

Nice

gritty ruin
#

Does the Gammax 400 V2 cooler work with a lga1200 socket?

trail sundial
#

probably should mention that getting french windows 10 was accidental

marble gust
gritty ruin
trail sundial
#

"ok then, I need to get ram, an ssd, and a new psu", sorry, and a cooler I assume

marble gust
#

If you brought before lga 1200 was announced then fine

#

Yes cooler. You can get cooler master hyper 212

worn wave
#

Hyper 212 is overpriced, get a SE-224XT instead

worn wave
fossil cedar
marble gust
earnest olive
#

LGA1200 and LGA115x have the same cooler mount

#

any consumer intel cpu from the last 11 years can use the same cooler

marble gust
fossil cedar
#

@trail sundial closest to 600(including mobo I'd recommend) could do 16gb instead but that 32gb is a steal

marble gust
#

Like I said before you brought it before LGA 1200 was announced. That why it doesn't show on paperwork.

gritty ruin
#

So I am good then. Alright thanks hitman

marble gust
#

YW

earnest olive
#

gammaxx 400 on a 14 core cpu?

marble gust
#

I noticed most of the gammax coolers are the same

earnest olive
#

hmm

marble gust
trail sundial
marble gust
#

Pato is good in this things

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

it's 145W TDP with PL2 = 1.2 * TDP

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

i don't think that gammaxx is good for long term 174W

fossil cedar
#

I kinda thought was gonna be an 8c xeon

trail sundial
#

so a bigger cooler is needed?

earnest olive
#

for sure

jagged ember
#

Gammaxx 400 keeps my 3600 under 80 on max load so

#

Yes

earnest olive
#

peerless assassin 120 should be good enough

fossil cedar
trail sundial
#

and can the mobo be different?

#

I'm not finding the current one at any sellers

earnest olive
#

any x99 should be fine

#

could probably find a cheaper chinese x99 lol

trail sundial
#

Far, who seemed pretty experienced with x99 recommended this

earnest olive
#

that one is pretty good

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

btw, you should look for a 4 stick ram kit to run quad channel

#

pretty much the only reason to pay this much for such an old board

#

might as well make use of the feature set

trail sundial
#

is the e5-2697-v3 going to be compattible with that ram speed?

fossil cedar
#

That would do but 30$ more :(

trail sundial
#

I thought it was DDR3 tbh

earnest olive
#

$600 budget is just unrealistic to fit a 14 core xeon + $250 980

earnest olive
fossil cedar
#

Can it?

#

Cool

earnest olive
#

wait, nvm

#

yeah it's ddr4 only

#

idk why the board has ddr3 slots

worn wave
#

Specific Xeons can do DDR3

#

These are the ones that do DDR3 only

earnest olive
#

"Huananzhi notes that DDR3 memory only works on a handful Haswell Xeon chips, including the E5-2678 v3, E5-2696 v3, E5-2629 v2, E5-2649 v3, E5-2669 v3, E5-2672 v3, and E5-2673 v3."

#

yeah i see now

#

wacky

#

anyways it's still got 4 ddr4 slots for quad channel

#

so definitely take advantage of that

#

4x4 if you can't afford 4x8

gritty ruin
#

Can I use mx 4 thermal paste with gammax 400 v2?

stoic island
#

it should come with paste already

gritty ruin
#

I know but ppl say that mx-4 is better

humble rock
#

I found a good deal on a 5800x is it worth upgrading from my 9700k or should I wait ???

gritty ruin
#

I already have it aswell

stoic island
#

you'll probably have to remove the preapplied paste first then

gritty ruin
#

Doesnt have any though

#

Am I good?

stoic island
#

There's no compatibility issues between coolers and paste if that's what you're asking....?

gritty ruin
humble rock
#

Don’t matter for paste anything will do some are just a bit better than others by small margins

#

@stoic island mostly just gaming

stoic island
#

depends on how much like 5% matters to you then

gritty ruin
#

Alright bouta apply the thermal paste

#

Wish me luck guys my first time

stoic island
#

x method best method

humble rock
#

Not 680 cdn that’s for sure lol

#

X or penti dot that’s what I usually do seems to work good for me @gritty ruin

gritty ruin
#

Ok

fossil cedar
gritty ruin
#

Sorry Pato I already had the mx-4 with me

humble rock
#

Mx4 is a great paste

#

I used thermal grizzly to see if there was a different but if there was it was negligible at best

little osprey
#

Yooo we talking about Chinese boards without me? wuuut

earnest olive
#

lol

little osprey
#

yea i read some of it lol

#

its a nice board though

fossil cedar
gritty ruin
#

Guys i accidently broke off one of the pin thingies fro. The jaud 1 socket. Am i screwed?

fossil cedar
#

Well no your front panel audio probs just won't work

gritty ruin
#

When I was trying to put the screw in. It slipped and pulled off one of them

#

So ill need speakers then?

fossil cedar
#

Jeez youve got a strong arm

fossil cedar
gritty ruin
#

I use primarily speakers so im good then?

#

Smh the last thing i wanted was for this to happen

fossil cedar
gritty ruin
#

Kk

worn wave
#

Uhh there is never a pin there

little osprey
#

^

worn wave
#

It comes without a pin there

frank stirrup
#

some boards do beep when boot

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
stoic island
potent portal
#

I've seen some people try to make their old aluminum cooler better by using liquid metal... Doesn't end how they hoped. It's good until it's not.

stoic island
#

Sad

#

But I mean even the newer Intel stock cooler has a copper coldplate afaik

potent portal
#

Also those OEM ones that take the stock Intel cooler and slap an aluminum slug so it fits AMD lol

#

GN found a couple of those on prebuilts they reviewed, including that Dell and Alienware I think

stoic island
#

Yea, that was sad

#

Really sad

#

Lga 115x to am4 bracket

median inlet
#

I’m just ordering my first pc now. Do you guys know if l should get thermal paste. The aio I’m getting is the white id cooling aio

wispy matrix
#

if so ye

#

if its a prebuilt you dont need it

stoic island
#

Cooler should come with paste though

raw crypt
#

hey guys anyone know good starter kit for mining?

wispy matrix
#

wym starter kit

raw crypt
#

btc d37 and a $500 graphics card

#

rx 5500 xt

wispy matrix
raw crypt
#

ok thanks

median inlet
#

I think it comes with thermal paste

wispy matrix
#

it should

#

also whats the specs if you dont mind me wondering

earnest olive
#

that's how it's supposed to look

#

there's only supposed to be 9

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

imagine if a cooler didn't come with paste expecting you to buy your own

#

they would get so many returns from idiots just not running it with any thermal paste that it's cheaper to just include some

#

I'd be shocked if it costs more than 2 cents per unit to preapply a thin film of cheap bulk thermal paste

#

even some of the cheapest coolers include actual tubes for 5-10 applications

stoic island
earnest olive
#

and if you can get it for $5 imagine how much OEMs can get it for

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

se-224-xt and vetroo v5 both come with very large tubes of paste

#

and it's very decent paste too

#

se-224-xt I believe comes with more

#

but it's also more expensive so

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

maybe in ireland

#

vetroo is usually on sale for 23-27

fossil cedar
#

nah in the us too

earnest olive
#

se-224-xt is always 30

fossil cedar
#

ahh you talking sale

#

well the 224 basic is like 26$

earnest olive
#

well if it's always on sale then yeah

#

basic has a worse fan though

fossil cedar
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But constant price more fair

earnest olive
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the coupon

fossil cedar
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It has coupon?

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Never know cuz Amazon links for different country dogggg

fossil cedar
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Amazon pls fix 02cry

wispy matrix
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Oop forgot I was not in general

fossil cedar
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brings me right to mfk amazon uk

gritty ruin
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Is there any way for me to connect this aux cable into my z490 gaming plus motherboard? Its for my monitor.

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I built my pc and it turned on successfully now I need to figure out how to get the monitor to work

marble gust
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Yes, find the audio part of your Mobo

fossil cedar
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the green audio port on your motherboard

gritty ruin
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Its not there...

worn wave
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The red one in the middle

gritty ruin
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Ok

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Let me check

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K it is still not working.

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I might have done something wrong

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Also My pc wont turn off with the power button. I need to turn off the psu in order to do it

fossil cedar
gritty ruin
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I havent gotten to windows yet. I just finished building the pc

fossil cedar
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Then how would you know if the speakers arent working

fossil cedar
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Make sure the pins for the front panel header are lined up right according to your manual

gritty ruin
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Im gonna check

gritty ruin
earnest olive
fossil cedar
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wasn't an accident

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amazon says you're not allowed to have a gf

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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yeah amazon doesn't want you to get another gf

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cause you already have me

fossil cedar
earnest olive
violet flame
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can eny one help me i got a new pc and my games are keep stutering

fossil cedar
violet flame
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@fossil cedar ryzen 5 1500x gtx 1060 3gb 8 ram hyperx 2 x 4 ram 2666

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game csgo

fossil cedar
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Well

earnest olive
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probably the 1500x

fossil cedar
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^

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How much did you pay for that pc?

earnest olive
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stuttering is most likely cpu/ram problem

violet flame
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i mean cpu temp is 38

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really good

earnest olive
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no

violet flame
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amd cooler

earnest olive
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like

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it's too weak

violet flame
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o

earnest olive
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not that it's overheating

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r5 1500x is like a midrange cpu from 8 years ago

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but with a better upgrade path

fossil cedar
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Try cap fps, then do all the basic csgo optimization stuff, but unless they sold you that pc pretty cheap they ripped you off with the cpu

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What motherboard do you have btw ?