building-and-recc-chat

[inland parrot]

I was planning of getting the 1650 super

[vernal dirge]

Depends on how old.

A 980 is still not that bad.

[inland parrot]

Idk how old the pc is but its running intel inside core i5

[vernal dirge]

According to google it’s running a gt 610

[lyric thistle]

I thought it was a microwave for a sec from that pic

620 according to the sticker in the pic

[vernal dirge]

Sorry that’s what I meant lol.

[lyric thistle]

ah

hmmmm

[vernal dirge]

I didn’t even see the specs on the sticker.

Just saw the model number lmfao.

[lyric thistle]

xd

[vernal dirge]

3470 though

Ouch.

[lyric thistle]

anything from the 900 series would be goo

3770 upgrade

[vernal dirge]

Yeah that sounds like the best thing to do

[tight sorrel]

I honestly dont know if an upgrade would be worht it?

[lyric thistle]

yes

[vernal dirge]

I mean, thats the thing right.

[inland parrot]

They are not playing games on it but it just needs a upgade

[lyric thistle]

oh just put an ssd in it

[vernal dirge]

Oh then why upgrade the GPU?

[lyric thistle]

maybe a bit more ram

[tight sorrel]

12GB of ram is odd

[lyric thistle]

it's quite normal for oems

they always use 12

[vernal dirge]

It’s like they lost the fourth stick of ddr 3.

[lyric thistle]

two sticks usually

1x8 1x4

[tight sorrel]

I mean, its what? a stick of 4 and a stick of 8? so not running in dual channel

[vernal dirge]

I though you were gonna say something crazier like oem 6 gig sticks lmfao.

But then I assumed dual channel

[lyric thistle]

pretty sure my computer at home is running dual channel

[tight sorrel]

with a 4 and an 8? is that even legal?

[vernal dirge]

SSD will have the computer feeling like new.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[nimble slate]

hey, i plan on buying this prebuild , cant link it , HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop TG01-2004ny, what do you guys think ? 1.3k eur

asked the staff thourgh mail the specific model of gpu

they said " NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti (8 GB GDDR6 dedicated) with LHR "

which is pretty funny

[long rock]

Alrighty. Today we start the glorious return process for my CPU, I shall go drop it off at UPS here in a bit, and see what happens

[trail elbow]

gonna have to upgrade my MOBO when I upgrade my cpu cause it only supports 9th fen intel max,prob gonna switch to AMD

[fossil cedar]

It will be a hp gpu, no asus etc, i mean it depends on country if better options available but that's not bad

[fossil cedar]

Probs wanna upgrade ram too

[trail elbow]

Prob I have 16gb 3600mhz cas 16

Might get 32 gigs

[long rock]

Alrighty, return has been made, I need to wait about a week for the refund money

[nimble slate]

i'm trying to look at these hp 3060ti settings , but can't understand the parameters , is it really that bad?

[obsidian wigeon]

the machine is well

rip upgrades

[nimble slate]

i can't even link the photo here?

[obsidian wigeon]

it uses proprietary mobo and psu

[nimble slate]

can't you just change the mobo ? sorry i'm not the expert

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

it uses non standard form factor

proprietary = oem's own stuff

[earnest olive]

HP 3060ti is fine

but yeah if it's proprietary you can't upgrade it

[nimble slate]

i guess it's fine if i don't plan on upgrading it just thinking if the 500psu will hold

for 3060ti they recommend 600w i believe

[long rock]

Seems bout right. I think they said it will take about a week to get the funds back on my card

[fossil cedar]

Wdym the settings? Well the bad part is mainly the hp cooler, not terrible just not great on the gpu as well as an oven for a case and using proprietary parts so basically only things that can be upgraded are cpu(in same motherboard, not much point), ram, and gpu

[fossil cedar]

Well hp cases are ovens with 0 airflow so you'll probs be sitting next to a jet engine

[nimble slate]

LMAO

ok i gotya

[glacial umbra]

is it worth it to grab a 5800x with a 3060 ti or will it make no difference compared to the 5600x?

[fossil cedar]

In gaming difference isn't noticeable

Unless you playing like csgo or valorant 720p

[glacial umbra]

alright, I'll stick with the 5600x then

[little osprey]

Welp
My PCs dead

[fossil cedar]

What's wrong/happened

[little osprey]

Not really sure yet
Turned it on, left the room to get a drink, came back to smoke and the PC off
PSU and GPU passed a sniff test. Top vents stink of burnt circuitry though
It's definitely the board or something on it, it isn't like a controller hub or a cable or anything

[topaz kestrel]

SMOKE?

"passed the sniff test" lol

[little osprey]

Barely visible, but yeah. I smelled it more than I saw it

[stoic island]

well, be careful first off

[topaz kestrel]

carry on doing sniff tests

[obsidian wigeon]

smoke

well unplug it and check

just be careful

[glacial umbra]

delicious smoked pcb for breakfast

[little osprey]

Well yeah. I tipped it on its side so the rear I/o was up and sniffed the exhaust vents for the gpu and psu
Didn't smell like burning, so it probably wasn't one of those

[topaz kestrel]

are you in a h510

[little osprey]

I can't find any scorchmarks or blown capacitors or anything. I don't understand

[fossil cedar]

H510 isn't that bad lmao

[little osprey]

No, and I don't use a riser cable

[topaz kestrel]

whats a riser cable pato

[fossil cedar]

Do you use any hubs or something?

[stoic island]

I suggest unplug everything unnecessary

[fossil cedar]

A pcie cable that's used to vertical mount

[stoic island]

(all the fans, all the extra storage, etc)

[topaz kestrel]

oh

[little osprey]

Yeah a few, but they're all fine

[topaz kestrel]

did you sniff them

[stoic island]

if you have an air cooler, unplug cpu fan too, heatsink should be enough to at least boot

aio, can't do much about that

[little osprey]

I've got aios on CPU and GPU

[stoic island]

sad

should be fine tho

[little osprey]

Wasn't a pump either. I've already checked and neither component overheats at idle even with the pumps and fans off

Like, when I built it. Out of curiosity

I really don't want to turn it back on. If its a short and it hasn't already bricked other components with it, it definitely will if I power it on again

[fossil cedar]

Tbf you'll probs be okay to just boot with the fans unplugged

Just go into bios or something

[little osprey]

Like just to see if I can make it that far, or is there something I should do in bios to try troubleshooting

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

might just be toast fans

who knows

[stoic island]

I don't really want to suggest taking the PSU out and paperclip test, because blowing up reasons, but that's the only other option tbh

if psu problem + turn on = boom?
psu problem + paperclip test = boom?

so kinda just hope it's not psu

(most likely not boom, but like sparks)

[fossil cedar]

You don't have a spare psu do you

Also remove any psu extensions etc just incase

[little osprey]

Yeah but if it's just the fans would that even cause the whole system to shut down? I don't see how it could unless the actual header shorted out, but if that's the case I think it comes back to the shorting to ground issue

[fossil cedar]

Sometimes the fan headers can just fry

[topaz kestrel]

whats the paper clip test?

[obsidian wigeon]

it basically fools the psu into powering on

[topaz kestrel]

cant u do that with anything metal?

[obsidian wigeon]

cause you short the pins

[topaz kestrel]

oh wait is it the mobo thing

[little osprey]

I really hope it's that
It would make sense too, they've been doing something kinda weird lately
IG having 10 fans on one header probably isn't optimal
But then again, why tf would they put ten ports on the hub then

[topaz kestrel]

yeah ik what it is

[obsidian wigeon]

no paperclips only works

cause you need to short specific pins

[topaz kestrel]

ive seen someone do it with a screwdriver before

[obsidian wigeon]

unless you have like

a psu tester

[fossil cedar]

It's definitely cuz you had 10 fans on 1 header WTF

[obsidian wigeon]

10 on 1 header

yep

fried header

[fossil cedar]

Unless it's sata powered

[obsidian wigeon]

just get a hub

it isn't optimal at all

it goes way over the rated amp

[topaz kestrel]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07B5F5VKM?tag=pcp0f-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 this is fine right @fossil cedar ?

[obsidian wigeon]

most headers handles 1 amp

which is usually 4-5 fans on average

also yes

that should do as a hub

[topaz kestrel]

ok just double checking lol

[fossil cedar]

Yep, bit on the spensive side tho, do you need a 10 fan hub lol?

[topaz kestrel]

im gonna need like a 7 fan hub ish so i dont mind spending that

its not too bad

imo*

[stoic island]

uh?

did I hear time for na fc1

[topaz kestrel]

na fc1?

[stoic island]

noctua's overbuilt fan controller

split it as many times as you want

[topaz kestrel]

it looks chonky lol

[stoic island]

relatively cheap, nice features

oh it's tiny afaik

[obsidian wigeon]

spensiv in where i live

[little osprey]

It is sata powered

[stoic island]

ya

it should be like 15$

[topaz kestrel]

same

[little osprey]

The one Im using is sata powered

[stoic island]

na-fc1 is sata powered, but yea

supposedly tested with 50 nf-a12x25s

[topaz kestrel]

do you actually just know these names off heart or did you search it lol?

[stoic island]

na-fc1 is just lovely

[little osprey]

I still think it's that though
Lately when I power my PC on and the fan LEDs first come on they go really dim and the LEDs go red even though they're set to white

[stoic island]

noctua naming is actually really simple when you look at it

Noctua Accessary - Fan Controller 1

NA-FC1

yaknow

[topaz kestrel]

a12x25s

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[topaz kestrel]

...

[stoic island]

NF - Noctua fan

[little osprey]

12cmx25mm

[stoic island]

a12 is the name of the 120mm fan (12cm)

[topaz kestrel]

oop

[stoic island]

and x25 means it's 25mm thick

[topaz kestrel]

maybe my brain just isnt wired like yours lol

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks puzzling

[stoic island]

a12x25 is just special

it's a godly fan

if you look at any best fan comparisons

it's probably going to show up

[topaz kestrel]

are all noctua fans that ugly brown and grey lol?

[stoic island]

nah

chromax fans

[obsidian wigeon]

black bois

[stoic island]

there's also other fans that are great, nf-a12x25 levels

[fossil cedar]

Do you just keep daisy chaining it or something?

[stoic island]

like Nidec GT is really good

[stoic island]

you can keep splitting it afaik

[fossil cedar]

Ahh interesting

[obsidian wigeon]

so hmm

[fossil cedar]

You gotta pay more for chromax tho

Sadge

[obsidian wigeon]

My case fan makes seemingly rubbing noise after I put it back in

[stoic island]

also

[obsidian wigeon]

Could it be the cable moving?

[little osprey]

Phanteks t30-120 actually outperforms nf12x25

[stoic island]

"The Noctua PR guy also tells me they have tested the FC1 with 100 fans! Now, granted, these were Noctua fans which don’t draw much current, but you get the idea that the FC1 will control all the PWM fans that will fit in your case."

[fossil cedar]

Arctic p12s way better value

[fossil cedar]

It's a possibility ye

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

i'll fix it later

it happens sparsely lol

some days it does, some it doesn't

[stoic island]

judging by the name, it's also thicker

[obsidian wigeon]

yep thicker

[fossil cedar]

Giving the pc a wack should displace the wire enough tbf

[stoic island]

but it'll be within a reasonable margin

[obsidian wigeon]

i wacked it a few times actually

[stoic island]

like nidec GTs

[obsidian wigeon]

doesn't fix it

[fossil cedar]

Damm

[obsidian wigeon]

it just goes away on itself

[snow turtle]

any recco for starter pre builts for gaming with a budget of about $900?

[obsidian wigeon]

[little osprey]

They're brand new though, and thicker and they made such a big deal about it they sent a bunch of YouTubers these big elaborate test setups to prove that it actually moves more air than noctua fans do

They were so proud of themselves

[obsidian wigeon]

so imma open it up and pull on the cable a bit

[stoic island]

I'm waiting for GN to get their testing setup going lol

I'm mainly interested in Nidec GT vs A12x25 vs P12 in general with good testing methodology

[obsidian wigeon]

ngl im interested by the nh-u12s redux

it's not expensive for noctua

[jagged ember]

I'd wait for gn airflow testing yeah

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala250-master/p/N82E16883360154R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1 if you don't mind open box and can spare 34$

[obsidian wigeon]

but 212 costs less so hmm

and 212 mounts so easily

least in where i live

[little osprey]

@stoic island no real point
The nidec ones just straight up cannot keep up

[fossil cedar]

Noonno 212 icky, se 224xt

[snow turtle]

iffy about open box, read too many stories of open boxes not matching what they’re described

[little osprey]

Would be interesting to see it between noctua, arctic, and these new phanteks fans though

[obsidian wigeon]

alright

[fossil cedar]

I've recommended open box abs pcs and haven't heard any complaints but to each their own

[obsidian wigeon]

224 xt literally costs the same

so wow

25 bucks

how the hell is it this cheap

with sale it's like 23

rgb edition is somewhat more but eh idc

non rgb saves cash so

[stoic island]

I'm 95% sure they are able to keep up

I'm talking about gentle typhoons btw

[snow turtle]

i mean it’s not entirely a deal breaker ig i’d be more worried about returning it if it’s not as described, just not looking to upgrade it for atleast the next 3 years of having it

[little osprey]

@stoic island yeah I know

https://youtu.be/FrVtVHSW3_w

[obsidian wigeon]

best of the best is delta

well- if noise is not a concern

[stoic island]

wdym can't keep up

[fossil cedar]

Well i can't find any decent prebuilts in stock and not open box that aren't rip offs like this pc https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-slate-mr-gaming-desktop-intel-i3-10100f-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-4gb-480gb-ssd/6455405.p?skuId=6455405

[stoic island]

noise normalized cfm looks good

going above a12x25

[lyric thistle]

https://airrider.my/images/default-source/default-album/history-vwts.jpg?sfvrsn=8575d132_0&size=1280

[stoic island]

:p

[fossil cedar]

For rgb you get vetroo v5 or one of the gammaxx's

[obsidian wigeon]

idc about it anyway

[stoic island]

but anyways, still want to see GN testing it

[obsidian wigeon]

but nice recc

[stoic island]

other people testing, I don't know them

[obsidian wigeon]

rgb is optional for me

[stoic island]

sure I'm being nitpicky but I'm just a nitpicky person

[obsidian wigeon]

if non rgb saves me cash, imma go non rgb

but if rgb happens to be on good sale

why not

[little osprey]

That's noise normalized testing though
The motor isn't fast enough to keep up with the noctua kr phanteks fans at 100%

[fossil cedar]

Same lol

[stoic island]

I'm talking about noise normalized

too lazy to go over 100% vs noise normalized argument again, I prefer noise normalized.

[little osprey]

Well that's what I'm talking about, you asked what I mean

[snow turtle]

yea deff not for i3, i’ve done a bit of research and i think i7 would fit what i’m looking to do as far as gaming and video editing

[stoic island]

'just straight up cannot keep up' is what I was responding to

but anyways

I'm being nitpicky

[little osprey]

Yeah because you're talking about who wins when they're jogging

Lmfao

[fossil cedar]

Nah you would be looking for an i5/ryzen 5 tier cpu really if you're gaming? Assuming this is a gaming pc, the gpu matters more

[little osprey]

That's like saying your 3060 is as fast as a 3080 because you underclocked the 3080

[fossil cedar]

What?

[little osprey]

Mr1111 and his noise normalized testing argument

[stoic island]

noise normalized vs 100% is a separate argument I'm just too lazy to get into today

talked with vintage about it once

[little osprey]

They're all basically the exact same fan just with different motors anyway

[snow turtle]

ahh rlly? i was looking and compared AMD and intel a lot and most of the comparisons as far as what games i would play showed intel in the lead, not that AMD was too far behind or anything

but yea mostly for gaming

[fossil cedar]

[stoic island]

depends on the benchmark and which models but anyways

[little osprey]

Where did you compare, userbenchmark?

Cause uh

Don't go by that

[stoic island]

gonna guess some old reviews with like 3rd gen ryzen against 10th gen intel, that would make sense

[snow turtle]

didn’t use that benchmark site, checked out a few videos here and there bc i couldn’t find the benchmark site i had heard of awhile ago

[fossil cedar]

I mean the 10400 is a bit better than a 3600 but close enough, and a 5600x is a good bit better than a 11400 but ofc an i9 10900k is gonna out perform a 3600

[fossil cedar]

If you want to compare cpus for gaming just watch gamers nexus reviews of the cpu

[little osprey]

Is eleventh gen Intel actually any better for gaming than tenth gen?
All I remember from that review cycle was people saying it was worse than 10th gen in a lot of cases and everything else got lost in the noise

[snow turtle]

^^

[celest horizon]

It's worse most of the time

https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/10900k-vs-11900k/

[little osprey]

Holy cow

Why even release it
They should have been honest
"Yeah our 10nm process isnt working so we backported a 10nm architecture up to 14nm and we were gonna release that as eleventh gen but it's way worse than tenth gen at everything but a handful of synthetic benchmarks so just buy a 10 series and wait a while"

[stoic island]

:)
https://youtu.be/oaB1WuFUAtw

[vale epoch]

I feel like I finally found a good deal

[stoic island]

eh

[little osprey]

The only good thing is that it's the same socket as 10th gen so imo they're just still making cool motherboards for 10th gen

[stoic island]

watch the video for fun info :)

[little osprey]

I'm busy, I can't

[stoic island]

but anyways that laptop 3070 prob has a pretty low pl

tldr it's a good milestone for Intel designing chips

[little osprey]

Is it
Or did Intel pressure some mostly unknown YouTuber to review it positively

I wouldn't be surprised if they wrote the script themselves even

[stoic island]

oh techtechpotato isn't an unknown youtuber, it's the small youtube channel of a tech journalist that writes for anandtech, it's Ian Cutress

they know what they're doing

[celest horizon]

Watch the vid when you have time if you want a real answer

[stoic island]

:)

but yea

they're not some random youtuber that got paid off

hasn't ian cutress been writing for anandtech for like 15 years now or smth

[celest horizon]

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/iancutress

[vale epoch]

140 at max

[little osprey]

They also fed into the "11th gen is 10nm" propaganda

[stoic island]

if it's true then it's decent

[little osprey]

Doesn't really make them seem objective

[stoic island]

11th gen Tiger Lake H is 10nm

that's mobile

the 1167g6 stuff

I can never remember the naming and will never bother to learn that naming

[celest horizon]

Propaganda?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

The i7 11700 is meh just the 11900k is stupid, the i5s are good tho

[fossil cedar]

What's the wattage of the 3070?

[stoic island]

Right from Intel, Intel says it's on the 10 nm process
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/213801/intel-core-i911900h-processor-24m-cache-up-to-4-80-ghz/specifications.html

tpu says the same
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-11900h.c2475

but anyways

enough of dwelling on that

[little osprey]

Remember when the entire tiger lake line was supposed to be 10nm?
Cause that persisted well after the launch and review cycles for it.
Outlets ran with "they're finally off of 14nm!" For a while

@celest horizon

[stoic island]

uh

the entire tiger lake line IS 10nm

[still roost]

analog_shower#6086 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[celest horizon]

I'm not aware of any tiger lake that isn't 10nm

[stoic island]

Desktop 11th gen is called rocket lake

[little osprey]

I don't care about Intel's in house naming schemes

Rocket lake, whatever

[celest horizon]

[stoic island]

rocket lake is not tiger lake, that's what I can say

anyways

[celest horizon]

Please use google to educate yourself

ian's articles on anandtech are a good start

[little osprey]

Bruh
I don't need to be educated because I mixed up the names of two architectures I don't care about

[stoic island]

the bit we don't like is that you applied misinformation onto a perfectly fine article by a nice guy :(

enough of that

[celest horizon]

This conversation can serve no further purpose

[stoic island]

https://youtu.be/oaB1WuFUAtw
is good video

[little osprey]

The bit I don't like is I said "11th gen intel bad" and you pulled out the one and only review anywhere that says otherwise

[stoic island]

it's not a review

hard to explain

[little osprey]

Stop arguing semantics

[stoic island]

I can prob pull up other sources to explain

[celest horizon]

11th gen is a success in the same way Apollo 13 was a success.

[topaz kestrel]

oof

[little osprey]

Apollo 13 was a success because they overcame a crisis
11th gen is a success cause they managed to make money off a crisis they created by not caring about their consumer products.
Not really the same at all if you think about it

NASA never did anything to seem like they think astronauts are stupid enough they will buy anything with the NASA logo on it

[stoic island]

The video is about CPU design, not about overall performance

it talks about how 11th gen design is a milestone

not the performance

the video isn't about 11th gen being good chips for you to buy

it's about how 11th gen is a good step for chip design

[little osprey]

Then the price should have reflected that before they realized it wouldnt sell as is

[stoic island]

oh I'm not saying 11th gen is good

[little osprey]

It's grimy, cause Intel is grimy

[stoic island]

I think 11700k 11900k prices suck

[little osprey]

And the product is bad and overpriced

[stoic island]

But 11th gen, the architecture, is a step forwards

You should watch the video for more details on that

[little osprey]

It's a step they should have made internally. It never should have left the lab

It's essentially "look what we can do! It kinda works, buy it!"

Don't commit to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time making it

[topaz kestrel]

how did this all start lol

[stoic island]

tbh

11th gen does improve upon 10th gen on some parts

[little osprey]

I asked if 11th gen was good at anything
Got a resounding "no"
And now apparently we're talking about why 11th gen is a waste of time and money, but not for the people who sell it

[stoic island]

You can see some generation over generation improvements from like 10600k to 11600k and 10700k to 11700k in for example blender

we ignore 11900k because it's dumb

If you don't like Ian and anandtech, TPU as a secondary source

some more simple metrics, cinebench

tbh 11th gen improved on lower and and took a step back on higher end

11900k suck

11700k suck a bit less but still suck

11600k good

11400 great

[little osprey]

An IPC improvement in one benchmark does not a generational improvement make

[stoic island]

I implore you to re-read the answer you got from forks tbh, and it was also 11900k v 10900k

[stoic island]

oh I'll grab more then

decent bit here

decent bit here

decent bit here

oh and also, forky source was mostly about game performance

where it does not do much better

and also ram oc stuff

[little osprey]

I looked at what forks sent and 90% of them show 11th losing to 10th

So

[stoic island]

which is true, like you can see in rdr2 here for example

it's true that it loses out in like 90% of the games

well, maybe less than 90%, but a good amount of games

there's also other benchmarks

where 11th gen wins

[vale epoch]

115-125 140 with dynamic boost

The 10th gen i7 is a 6 core right?

[stoic island]

@little osprey I'm tired of typing, you're probably tired of this too, so let's just end this here, you can make your own judgement from the information we provided, and I implore you to watch the video for more info on the architecture

[fossil cedar]

Bleh

[vale epoch]

?

[fossil cedar]

115-140w is a big range

Not bad not good

[topaz kestrel]

bigbrain man

i have a quesiton

[stoic island]

it's not max-q

so it's decent, not good, not bad.

[topaz kestrel]

@fossil cedar

[stoic island]

max q is like 80-90w pl

[snow turtle]

how do these two stack up? ik they’re in the comparison tool but my judgment isn’t too good and i’m not techy https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare?CompareItemList=9SIADT2EBY2365%2CN82E16883360101%2CN82E16883360154R ( ignore the $500 one it won’t remove it from the comparison )

[topaz kestrel]

will i have to flashback my mobo (Gigabyte B560M DS3H) for a intel i5-10400f or will it just work straight away?

[fossil cedar]

Yis?

[stoic island]

2060 is better than 1650.

[celest horizon]

Max Q is such and odd branding choice for a gpu

[stoic island]

b560 will be fine with 10400

[topaz kestrel]

pog

[stoic island]

it's just all soo annoying anyways

[topaz kestrel]

saves me effort

[fossil cedar]

Nope you're good

[stoic island]

tbh I expected a product with the word "max" in the name to perform better but eh

[celest horizon]

No matter which common sciencey definition you go by - it either means hot or loud, lol

[vale epoch]

Well here’s the technical stuff

[topaz kestrel]

5g 😮

[stoic island]

actually

115w tdp

pretty sure that's the lowest end sku for non-max q 3070 mobile

[vale epoch]

Its att so no not 5g its fake 5g

[topaz kestrel]

lol

[fossil cedar]

That's not good

[trail elbow]

What’s the base clock for a 3070

[frank stirrup]

Which 3070

[analog hearth]

look it up lol

https://www.google.com/ here I got you

[vale epoch]

Lmao

[earnest olive]

me watching my 130W 3070M boost to 2100mhz

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-maximum-power-power-spongebob-squarepants-full-power-gif-22777727

[cinder crystal]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CDM2HSS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Just had this delivered, just got it installed, but the PC isn't detecting it

[fossil cedar]

ignore that made little to no sense

[fossil cedar]

are you trying to install windows on this or is it a 2nd drive

[cinder crystal]

It's a secondary drive

When I pull up Windows C Properties/Hardware it detects there is a drive, and entering the properties menu lists the device with no device information, and when I click populate it recognizes it as a drive with a size, and that there are no updates to apply, but it won't detect it as a storage device. Possibly need to install the device driver manually from the teamgroup site?

[fossil cedar]

You will need to initialise it then

In disk management

[cinder crystal]

Found, formatted, thank you! =}

[fossil cedar]

Np

[jovial tendon]

Alright waiting on Newegg to ship out my PSU and I will be in build mode! Really excited as I have been wanting to build another system for quite a long while! This baby is going to be a work horse

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4wPfNP

[stoic island]

Nice

Going to assume that list isn't in usd

[jovial tendon]

it's usd

[stoic island]

Oh god

So many overpriced things :(

[jovial tendon]

some parts were really price gouged

[stoic island]

5950x regularily sells at 700$

The aio is overpriced for what it is

[jovial tendon]

yeah I bought the CPU during the cpu shortage, and the gpu was from a month ago (3rd party seller on newegg)

[stoic island]

Heck, it's usually like 200$ and that's overpriced >:(

[jovial tendon]

the one gpu I did land at MSRP back in November though

[stoic island]

GPU price might actually be one of the more reasonable prices on the list lol

Motherboard ram storage PSU case

All just

Overpriced

[jovial tendon]

I did put in taxes just so I could keep track of cost for tax season next year

so there is that too

The motherboard was MSRP

[stoic island]

This isn't overpriced by 10% kind of overpriced

This is like HX1000w is less than half the price of that psu :(

[jovial tendon]

I pre-ordered it, $799 (857.99 after tax)

[stoic island]

And it's really overpriced for what it provides

You'll get the same performance out of a 150$ board :(

Welp

It's been spent

[jovial tendon]

The ram was actually on sale, the msrp is $934.99 I snagged it up for 719.98 (750.73 after tax)

[stoic island]

And 4 sticks of 32gb ballistix 3600c16 would send you back around 600$

No sale

[jovial tendon]

the point of the board was so I could have TB4 and 10gig ethernet without using expansion cards

[stoic island]

(3600c16 is faster than 3200c16)

Eh, thunderbolt might be worth a bit, but damn is that board expensive in general

[jovial tendon]

but I like the rgb look of the vengeance ram 🙂 it's sharp

[stoic island]

(and 120$ more expensive for worse performance even on sale, but if you like it)

Anyways

Splurging is not my thing

[jovial tendon]

I knew going into this it would be a pricey build, when I go to do watercooling in the next few months I already expected I will be up past the 10k mark

[stoic island]

I look at performance, not looks, and I look at price, because I like to save money, saving my own money or other people's money.

[jovial tendon]

I feel ya man, different strokes for artichokes I guess - I am pretty frugal about many things in life, like I will drive my cars into the ground before buying another. So I figured it would be nice to go balls to the wall on a system build. In all fairness I have been buying parts for this build over the past 10 months, so it's not like I ripped the bandaid off all at once.

[still roost]

m3ta#5307 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[jovial tendon]

I also picked a bad time to buy components. A lot of fear was circling around about CPU price increases and such, along with gpus - this is why I bought the cpu at the worst possible time rather than wait till it was more available and at msrp (thought it would be the same case as gpus)

[fossil cedar]

The 5950x, aio, motherboard, storage, ram and psu prices make me feel pain

[jovial tendon]

I am just looking forward to not waiting an hour and half to render a scene, only to find something I missed or decide to change something and re-render it

[fossil cedar]

That's not the point it's extra for even an extreme overclocking ln2 board which is what it's made for

[fossil cedar]

You can get thunderbolt on like a 300$ mobo lol

[jovial tendon]

for intel maybe, not many options for x570

[worn wave]

There is for B550 though

Vision D series

[jovial tendon]

yeah but b550 is pretty limiting, and the io is not as robust

[fossil cedar]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-B550-Creator-Motherboard-Thunderbolt-DisplayPort/dp/B08ZS73B4Y ahem

[fossil cedar]

Nope just only has 1 pcie gen 4 ssd slot

[jovial tendon]

Yep, i know of that one

[fossil cedar]

Io is just mobo dependant

[jovial tendon]

the board I picked up is able to do 5 gen4 m.2 cards\

[worn wave]

B550 is not that limiting really

[jovial tendon]

that's a big deal for me as I move away from spinning drives and 2.5 ssds

[fossil cedar]

Yes but do you recall even need 1 gen 4 ssd?

[jovial tendon]

absolutely

[fossil cedar]

Why?

[jovial tendon]

for work, I run a video production studio. As of last year I started getting into 3D elements for video using Cinema 4D. I have a NAS which has been my storage and backup, I would like to make it backup only

and keep my assets on my pc

[fossil cedar]

Okay

You're 1 of very few who actually need lol

[jovial tendon]

also I kinda like keeping all of my steam games installed - which is weird but I like being able to spin anything I want up on the fly

I also needed a big tax write off this year, so here we are haha

[vague oracle]

Tax write offs do be nice

[fossil cedar]

For the games an sk hynix p31 would do just as good lmao

But ehh I'm sure for your work the 980 pro is probably useful

[jovial tendon]

oooo great price on that, I went with Samsung because fear of data loss and my oldest pc building rule is for psu and storage always buy from a reputable brand

but then again, there have been a lot of great quality brands that have popped up over the years I just have not heard of

[vague oracle]

980 pro is actually a pretty good drive if you get a good deal on it

Slightly worse rand than a p31 but a lot better sequential

[fossil cedar]

Ehhhhhhhhhh

You're not gonna loose data by going with a lesser known brand

[vague oracle]

I’ve had all tons of stuff fail on me including Samsung

[fossil cedar]

Controllers and nand are only manufactured by a handful of companies

[jovial tendon]

Also loosing my game drive is not such a big deal, I will check them out when I go to add more storage! My rule was from back in 2005 when I lost a system because I cheeped out with an off brand psu lol it was a lesson learned

[sand falcon]

Samsung has had some super sketchy drives

Always back up your data

Which reminds me, I haven't backed up yet today

[jovial tendon]

yeah I read about them cheating their customers with the 970 evo 2.5 drives

[jagged ember]

This is the important lesson lol

[jovial tendon]

3 2 1 rule (3 backups, 2 media types, 1 online)

[jagged ember]

Because even brand name ssds can die

Isn't 2 like 2 copies

[sand falcon]

Ah crap, I forgot to add a huge simulation results file to the ignore list 😢

[jagged ember]

Of the file

Or am I misremembering

[jovial tendon]

I am misremembering lol

it's something like that

lol

[jagged ember]

Close enough

Point is do backups

I have like 2 external drives and one off-site

[jovial tendon]

I keep client stuff on my pc, nas, and once a month I swap out drives in a safety deposit box at the bank

[jagged ember]

One Nas too

But the Nas is also backed up off site from it's location

[jovial tendon]

Nice, it's more important than most people think

[sand falcon]

I just had a business idea

[jagged ember]

When you lose your data

Is when you realize how important it is

That's at least for most people lol

[jovial tendon]

what's the idea?

[sand falcon]

Take some small mobile processors and some 2230 SSDs, box them up into the smallest possible box and stick an RJ-45 jack on it

Call it the Lil NAS I

The second version will be the Lil NAS II

[jagged ember]

Pfft

[stoic island]

lol

[sand falcon]

etc

[jovial tendon]

lmfao

[fossil cedar]

Not cheaping out on psu is a good idea but then again my 500w evga w1 that was in my old pc(now in dads) is still running perfectly to this day, but only had an r9 380 and fx6300 on it so it probs didn't get near danger range

[cursive tusk]

My case fans have 3 pinouts and mobo has 4, no biggie right?

[sand falcon]

No biggie

[stoic island]

it's just pwm vs dc control

[fossil cedar]

That assumes my data consists of more than some lecture slides i can redownload and game files

And other programs i can download again ofc

[fossil cedar]

BEAUTIFUL

[lyric thistle]

it's even fine to have a mix of 3 pin and pwm fans

as long as you don't have both types off of one header

[earnest olive]

no ssd is safe from an angle grinder

[lofty isle]

i have a bad pc

;-;

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/barbeque-kingston-kingston-ssd-ssd-disk-gif-20905687

[fluid valve]

Open RGB doesn’t support 3000 series yet from what I can tell :(

[desert gulch]

YOU arent even safe from an angle grinder lol

some kid in my shop class had a grinder with a cutting disc blow up and the cutting disc chunk lodged itself in his safety glasses 😳

[earnest olive]

uh oh

[obsidian wigeon]

wow

[desert gulch]

thats what happens when someone drops a grinder and puts some micro fractures in it and you use it

[earnest olive]

bet he's glad he was wearing those safety glasses

[teal wraith]

Hot take:
Manly case fans have a Stalling speed of 2000RPM

ok to be fair i really dont have any room to talk since my case fans are 9.2k rpm

no were not cooling a 5.0ghz 28core xeon

just a ryzen...

[earnest olive]

9.2k rpm???

what

what fans do you have

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[teal wraith]

San Ace 80's

[earnest olive]

my 5800x is pretty happy under some 700rpm fans...

[teal wraith]

Model 9G0812P1F03

[earnest olive]

but why

[teal wraith]

hot swappable too

used to be a duel socket supermicro super chassis

[obsidian wigeon]

you don't ever need that loud of a fan just to cool a ryzen ngl

[teal wraith]

was fully ATX compliant

so i just use them because they work VERY well

[earnest olive]

better be careful which fan headers you plug them into

[teal wraith]

i know i dont plug them directly into fan headers

[earnest olive]

at full speed they will overload some consumer fan headers

ah

[teal wraith]

I use one of those Molex breakout board fan things

that just take the PWM signal from the fan header

but get the pwoer off the molex

[earnest olive]

do you actually run them at max speed lmao

[teal wraith]

no

I actually havent really tested how low they can go

so they might be able to run at a reasonable speed

[earnest olive]

i like having a quiet-ish pc

[teal wraith]

good point but i also run 8 HDDs with plans to add 5 more
(Yes i really do use this server chassis to its FULL potential)

\

Things a screamer but its like everything you could ever need in a computer all local too

no networking or anything

as of right now 7 HDDs in RAID 6 + 1 hotspare
i have 13.5TB usable capacity

(Yes it is a freaky computer)

920w redundant psus (TITANIUM) with standard ATX 24pin

kinda lit tbh

[calm heron]

hey i got my new prebuild pc yesterday

[teal wraith]

explodes

[calm heron]

i tried it and good

but the graphic heat is like hell

[stoic island]

heat is heat

[teal wraith]

you mean like room heater ?

[calm heron]

is that normal

[stoic island]

power -> heat

[teal wraith]

as in room is hot?

[stoic island]

just how it goes

[earnest olive]

prebuilts are known for running hot

[calm heron]

my room is cold

kinda

[earnest olive]

i went crazy and installed my entire game library on my new build

...this is the result

lmao

my storage needs are very small

[teal wraith]

Im just a massive data hoarder

[calm heron]

so its normal to be that Hot ?

[stoic island]

room getting hot, yes

[teal wraith]

if i see a file i like if its a image, video or whatever else i save it

[earnest olive]

how hot is it lol

you better not say 70C

[calm heron]

like i can smell the iron

[earnest olive]

what

[stoic island]

wat

[calm heron]

lol i cant explain

[earnest olive]

can you download hwinfo and see what it reports cpu and gpu temps as

[stoic island]

if the room is hot

very much normal

[teal wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/translate-it-for-me-in-english-i-need-translate-mr-iglesias-netflix-gif-17558611

[stoic island]

if the parts are reporting temps are hard

use hwinfo64

[calm heron]

although i didn't update anything

[stoic island]

inb4 idling at 30c is too hot

[calm heron]

what should i do to check my temper

[earnest olive]

we just said hwinfo twice

zz

[stoic island]

@calm heron so the room is hot, is that what you're saying?

that's normal

[teal wraith]

Personally i refuse to get RTX 3000 series just because how much power GDDR6X uses

[stoic island]

what

I mean

[earnest olive]

not all the cards use 6x

[teal wraith]

I know

[stoic island]

if 5w is that much for you

[teal wraith]

but the big ones do

[earnest olive]

3070 is a pretty good card

uses regular old gddr6

[stoic island]

and higher up on the stack you get hbm2e

fun stuff

[calm heron]

how to check my temper

[stoic island]

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

[teal wraith]

Nvidia
A6000 vs 3090

A6000 is massively more power efficient despite being the same GPU die

just due to using GDDR6 not GDDR6X

[earnest olive]

A6000 is also going to be very binned

workstation cards receive better bins

[teal wraith]

yea true but still

if there was a version of the 3090 with like not space heater memory

i would buy it

[earnest olive]

undervolt it

[calm heron]

how to download this thing

to many options

[stoic island]

installer

and click a button

[earnest olive]

...he literally linked you to the download page 💀

[teal wraith]

What language do you natively speak?

[earnest olive]

looking at his status, arabic

[teal wraith]

I feel English is not your native Language

hm

[earnest olive]

english is not my native language either

[teal wraith]

I speak AMERCANISH

[earnest olive]

heck yeah

diabetes am i right

yall wanna measure stuff in football fields?

[teal wraith]

MCDONALDS OIL OIL OIL KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN TEXAS TEXAS OIL
Translation: Im hungry

[earnest olive]

my graphics card is 0.0029163056 football fields long

[teal wraith]

bro your supposed to measure that in cheese burgers

[earnest olive]

i would but i can't count that high

[teal wraith]

My setup (my main is dismantled behind monitor)

[earnest olive]

why did i know you were a linux user before you sent that

[teal wraith]

its so big

[teal wraith]

i started speaking RAID arrays as if thats a casual game drive medium

[calm heron]

i may be blind where temper

[earnest olive]

idk i think it was that AND the supermicro chassis with the hot dog slicer fans

[teal wraith]

hehehe

[earnest olive]

open it in sensor only mode

also... yikes

they shipped your prebuilt with jedec 2666mhz ram

😩

[teal wraith]

is it bad my dads computer despite only ever being used for extremely light gaming
and web browsing

has 40GB of ram

just casually

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/chipsahoy-snail-eating-cucumber-snail-wegaking-gif-18158317

[earnest olive]

i upgraded my mom's laptop from 8gb to 16gb after noticing her tabs were taking like 5 seconds to load out of pagefile

she apparently did not notice the performance difference

[earnest olive]

she did notice the quadruple storage upgrade and repaste though

[teal wraith]

for me i was just upgrading and since me and my dad both use AM4 just me on the MUCH higher end

[earnest olive]

scroll down to your 3060ti

[teal wraith]

when i do a upgrade he kinda just gets hand me downs

[earnest olive]

my mom is chilling on an i5-7200U

it's enough for her needs

but it was idling at 92c

[earnest olive]

repasted it and it went to idling at 30c and is quiet now

[earnest olive]

ok now play a game for a few minutes with it open and see the max temp

61C is a very low temp

[calm heron]

it got cooler when i turn on the aircon

[earnest olive]

if it's 61C at load you have absolutely nothing to worry about

you don't need to worry until 83C

[calm heron]

if i hit that temp what should i do

[earnest olive]

what you should be worried about is enabling xmp on your ram if there is an xmp profile

your pc is running its ram at 2666mhz

did they advertise higher?

[earnest olive]

power limit/undervolt it

[calm heron]

i didn't do anything

[earnest olive]

but you're nowhere near it

so don't worry about it

[teal wraith]

my dad has a
Quadro K4200 (Funny af just at light load like 20% load is 80c and thats with kryonaut)
Asrock B450 pro4
120GB SSD (Cheapo sata one with DISK compression enabled to be easy on the flash)
1TB Seagate HDD (ALso with disk compression enabled because it speeds things up on spinnies)
Ryzen 2400GE
450w Rosewill PSU

[earnest olive]

when you bought the pc what did they advertise the memory speed to be

[teal wraith]

and 40GB of DDR4 2666

[calm heron]

in website it said 3000

[earnest olive]

yeah

it's running at 2666 right now

[calm heron]

should i increse it ?

[earnest olive]

https://www.howtogeek.com/257766/how-to-enable-intel-xmp-to-make-your-ram-run-at-its-advertised-speeds/

[teal wraith]

hes saying (THEY SCAMMED YOU)

[obsidian wigeon]

just set xmp

[earnest olive]

click the link it's a guide

idk why it just embedded an image lol

[obsidian wigeon]

prebuilts usually has xmp off

which is what, why

they probably just put it together

[earnest olive]

because prebuilt companies hate their customers

[obsidian wigeon]

do qc and ship it

[earnest olive]

haven't you learned this lesson yet

do qc?

hahahaha

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[obsidian wigeon]

oh lol

[earnest olive]

you're asking too much

[obsidian wigeon]

dang it

[earnest olive]

ibuypower literally shipped steve a broken pc

[obsidian wigeon]

true

broken pcie slot lmao

[earnest olive]

qc isn't even a prebuilt problem

i just had an evga 3070 die because they screwed up the manufacturing

[obsidian wigeon]

it's problem everywhere

i guess

especially now

[calm heron]

i cant talk freely cuz im doing something

[earnest olive]

people reported 3080 with pads running over the cooler instead of touching vram

[calm heron]

just give me couple mintues

[earnest olive]

someone had a 3090 with a glove on the vram

my 3070 had screws falling out right next to the QC OK sticker

[teal wraith]

Hope these photos give y'all night mares

It sent

Twice

Wtf??

Is this just on my end

[earnest olive]

banned for spam

no i can see the double send

[teal wraith]

hmm

fixed

hopefully those photos terrify you

[earnest olive]

i have a video of my 3070 artifacting if you want some real horror

[obsidian wigeon]

clean it

i stg

[teal wraith]

tbh i have thought about replacing my finger removal fans with something more tame

but i rather like having fans that are noisy idleing

[earnest olive]

get rgb fans so you can be the first person to ever have rgb in a supermicro chassis

[teal wraith]

oh no

[earnest olive]

no profanity

[teal wraith]

but the feature of them having such a high RPM maxing them is a "Oh (BIG BOY WORDS)" mode

[earnest olive]

[calm heron]

so orange i need to change the ram speed to 3000

by enabling extreme memory

[earnest olive]

yes i sent a link to a guide

[vague oracle]

What’s poppin sips

I almost just said sippy 😂

[earnest olive]

my 3070 is

remember the one that i revived

[calm heron]

it will not decreses the ram's usage ?

[earnest olive]

it died again this morning after 4 days

[vague oracle]

Nope

[earnest olive]

it is currently working once again but i have decided to RMA it

[glacial umbra]

@analog pulsar got an audience?

[earnest olive]

not gonna sit around and wait for it to die again

[vague oracle]

Why?

[earnest olive]

i mean

[calm heron]

nothing else just increaasing the ram ?

[earnest olive]

it's clearly damaged

next time it dies maybe it'll be permanent

[vague oracle]

I missed something, how is it damaged?

[earnest olive]

or maybe it'll croak for good once warranty is over

uhhh

did you hear about how it originally died

[vague oracle]

Nope

[glacial umbra]

oh this isn't general

oops

[earnest olive]

got it sealed from evga right

so i was using it and temps seemed ok

so never bothered to check for hardware defects

but 3070 doesn't have vram temp sensors

[glacial umbra]

I thought you bought it off someone else?

[earnest olive]

anyways after a month it died

randomly

[glacial umbra]

or is this a different gpu

[earnest olive]

the pc shut off, i rebooted and it said code 43

[earnest olive]

yes, but it was a sealed box with evga factory seals

[glacial umbra]

oh

[earnest olive]

so i tried DDU and reinstalling drivers

as soon as i installed drivers the screen was covered in green artifacts

chalked it up to dead and put it aside

next day i did a physical inspection

[calm heron]

sweet it got deleted

[earnest olive]

turns out they didn't screw the cooler in properly

[earnest olive]

read the rules

[calm heron]

sorry/

[earnest olive]

anyways i tightened the screws and the card started working again so i thought it was fixed

ran fine for 4 days

[calm heron]

is there a way to go to bois

[earnest olive]

this morning i had it on my test bench idling and got a VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE bsod

rebooted and saw it had code 43 again

[calm heron]

i couldn't do it with spamming F12 11

[earnest olive]

did homework for a couple hours and it started working again

it is working right now but i don't want to sit around and wait for it to die again

i assume some component like vram or vrms suffered minor but permanent damage due to improper cooler contact

that about sums it up @vague oracle

[earnest olive]

spam DEL

[calm heron]

ill try

Didn't work

[earnest olive]

try F2

[calm heron]

It just pitch black

[earnest olive]

every mobo i've ever used was either DEL or F2

[calm heron]

the windows logo wont show up either

[earnest olive]

you restarted and pressed DEL and now it's black?

[calm heron]

i tried everything

just black screen

after few seconds im in desktop

[earnest olive]

what brand prebuilt is this

[calm heron]

ABS

[glacial umbra]

yet another pre-built not working right away

or I guess not working properly

[stoic island]

pretty sure it worked right away

just xmp did a thing

[calm heron]

= (

[earnest olive]

xmp isn't on yet

he didn't get into bios

[stoic island]

wat

[glacial umbra]

can't get into bios to enable xmp

[earnest olive]

ABS doesn't use anything proprietary so bios should be a thing

[stoic island]

they were gaming earlier

[earnest olive]

yeah with xmp off

[stoic island]

yea

the heck happened

[calm heron]

i dont understand

[earnest olive]

cant get into bios apparently

oh well

if you cant get into bios just forget about it

[calm heron]

i need go to into bois

i have too

is there any other way to enter bios

[little osprey]

Hello can someone help me with my pc

[kind vortex]

very goood

[little osprey]

Im getting a black screen

[kind vortex]

pc spe

c

[little osprey]

What

[kind vortex]

what is the spec

on phone is pretty hard to type

[kind vortex]

do you install winodws yet

[stoic island]

I assume you actually have a full sized keeb with dedicated function keys and dedicated del?

since fn layers can not want to work for bios

[stoic island]

there's a way from windows

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-enter-uefi-bios-windows-10-pcs

[kind vortex]

black screen sound cool

[little osprey]

I cant send picuters her

[stoic island]

yet

[lyric thistle]

this is a threat

:)

[little osprey]

I am going to dm @kind vortex

[kind vortex]

uhhh

why me

[stoic island]

you have been choosen

apparently

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-obiwan-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7628631

[kind vortex]

lmao

[kind vortex]

welp that true

[obsidian wigeon]

you have a cpu without an igpu

ryzen 5 3600 has none

[calm heron]

i tried it and the same results

[obsidian wigeon]

you need a gpu to be able to display stuff

[lyric thistle]

rip

[calm heron]

it boot up to fast

[obsidian wigeon]

you could do what mr1111 posted

hold shift and click restart

then it'll throw you in a menu

then get into advanced options

[kind vortex]

ye lmao

no gpu

[calm heron]

still

...

should i remove m.2

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[kind vortex]

dont do that

[obsidian wigeon]

you just simply have to enter the bios

[kind vortex]

why tho

[calm heron]

it makes me mad

[obsidian wigeon]

entering bios is pretty simple process

[kind vortex]

just smash the delete key

[calm heron]

the new prevuild pc igot today works perfect but it boot up way to fast i tried smashing The key binds

but still

[obsidian wigeon]

you could follow the guide

[calm heron]

what guide

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-enter-uefi-bios-windows-10-pcs

this

[kind vortex]

do you need to update the mainboard bios

[calm heron]

they gave me A DCD

DVD

CD

[kind vortex]

lmao

[calm heron]

whatever

[obsidian wigeon]

huh

well just hold shift key on the keyboard

then restart

[calm heron]

I used thos method

[obsidian wigeon]

it should throw you into that blue menu

[calm heron]

same results

[obsidian wigeon]

weird

[kind vortex]

do you have windows tho

[calm heron]

I used the windows method by going into UFIE

something like this

and after pressing restaart

just black screen and booting fast

[kind vortex]

you have a gpu right?

[obsidian wigeon]

abs usually uses f2 for bios

so try that, just mash on it after you turn the machine on

cause they use asus mobos mainly

[kind vortex]

[obsidian wigeon]

or delete key

[calm heron]

😕

how ima support to use this

suppost .

[kind vortex]

gg man you try your best

i think you will need a cd thingy

[calm heron]

what a day

[solemn kite]

[kind vortex]

like this cd reader

[tribal rain]

What do you guys set your AIO pump and fan speeds at?

[calm heron]

ugghh

[obsidian wigeon]

you don't have to use its cd to get into bios

[vague oracle]

I’m pretty sure I found my workstations cpu block https://fluixengineering.com/store/ols/products/fl-tri-swift-str4-nickelcopper-cpu-multi-inlet-water-block-rgb

This looks sick

[obsidian wigeon]

the manual literally says this