#building-and-recc-chat

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potent portal
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Yep that'll do nicely

ancient peak
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Ok, I guess I’m using the mp400 then

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Thanks for the help

potent portal
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No problem

ancient peak
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Ok, the list is properly fixed, 5600x, 6700xt atx build

vague oracle
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If you have an extra $50 to spend I would go for a red devil 6700xt over the mech

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MSI Mech is equivalent to MSI Ventus

plain grove
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@obsidian wigeon

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So where do I go

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For the rufus download

potent portal
plain grove
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What do I press it looks so complicated

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@potent portal

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@obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
plain grove
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idk thats the website i didn't choose any of those thats just a example they gave

obsidian wigeon
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ah

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Well

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First off, click the settings icon, the one that looks like volume sliders

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@plain grove

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Then show me your screen

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Cause ya need to enable downloading so that ya could get windows

plain grove
obsidian wigeon
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uhm

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not that

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lemme get my laptop and show you

plain grove
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So it’s not in settings

obsidian wigeon
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It's in rufus

plain grove
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Oh

still roostBOT
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.+ Dom#3001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fleet pagoda
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How do i fix this

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fleet pagoda
plain grove
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What did you

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Say

fleet pagoda
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Doesnt matter but do yk what that means

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Says i have no internet connection either

obsidian wigeon
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scroll down and follow thru this

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there's how to enable the download function

plain grove
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Foxy where did you find that

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What do I press to get there

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@obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
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First step

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Then after you reopen rufus

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You should get this

plain grove
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Ik but when I click on the link it just leads me to steps on how to do it

obsidian wigeon
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ah

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idk I just scrolled down

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Might be how the site works

plain grove
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So when I click on the link is there somewhere I go to get to where you are

obsidian wigeon
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Ah

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Well I simply scrolled down

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Until it says "How to create windows 10 uefi boot media with rufus"

plain grove
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Can I see?

obsidian wigeon
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It's about halfway in the page

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But alright

plain grove
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Above usage or below

obsidian wigeon
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About halfway in the page

plain grove
obsidian wigeon
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oh

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Well you already have rufus lol

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Just follow the guide on how to enable downloads

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I posted some pics above

plain grove
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Ngl it’s confusing

obsidian wigeon
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uh

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They literally pointed out with red markers

plain grove
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So I click on Rufus 3.15?

obsidian wigeon
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Don't you have rufus earlier already?

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Just open it, do what the pics I posted guide

plain grove
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Alright got it

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I just put everything the guide tells me to?

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

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And once you're done, select latest windows version

plain grove
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@obsidian wigeon

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I’m almost done

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What happens if I get the same error code like last time?

obsidian wigeon
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Rufus usually doesn't do that

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It never did that to me

plain grove
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What about windows?

obsidian wigeon
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Wait

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What'd you download?

plain grove
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Or the creation tool

obsidian wigeon
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Ah

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Creation tool does like to corrupt sometimes

plain grove
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I downloaded what it told me to

obsidian wigeon
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It's why I prefer rufus

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You choose win 10, right?

plain grove
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Yes

obsidian wigeon
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good

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That's fine then, wait for it

plain grove
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Alright

plain grove
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@obsidian wigeon

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Is this right

obsidian wigeon
plain grove
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Alright it’s downloading on the usb now

plain grove
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@obsidian wigeon

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It’s done what do I do now?

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Which one is it?

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@obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
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sorry was gaming

plain grove
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@obsidian wigeon

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It’s done

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Alright thanks sm for helping me foxy it’s done I really appreciate you spending time to walk me through it @obsidian wigeon

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Alright one last issue with it tho it’s not letting me connect to the internet

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@obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
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gotta find driver for it for ya

plain grove
obsidian wigeon
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You're gonna need it to copy the driver you're gonna download

plain grove
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So I need to delete whatever is in it?

obsidian wigeon
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Nah, deleting won't do

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Gotta format it with rufus

plain grove
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Again

obsidian wigeon
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This time select non bootable option

plain grove
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Alright

obsidian wigeon
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Then once you're done you'll have to download the lan driver

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Put it into the usb drive once its formatted

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Then get back to the machine and install it there

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This is for audio

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In case windows doesn't have audio driver for the mobo already

plain grove
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So is there anything specific I put for the drive properties

obsidian wigeon
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Maybe just partition type to ntfs or something

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It doesn't really matter

plain grove
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Mbr or gpt or superfloppy disk

obsidian wigeon
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just go with mbr

plain grove
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This look good?

obsidian wigeon
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ye

plain grove
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Alright it’s done

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I just plug it in the pc now?

obsidian wigeon
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no

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download drivers first

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i gave you link for ethernet and audio for your mobo

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download em into the usb drive before you get back to pc

plain grove
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All the files ?

obsidian wigeon
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yep

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download both of em

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two links

plain grove
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Alright done

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Once I download those two I plug it in the pc

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@obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
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yep

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and you just install the drivers, drag em into the pc

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and start launching their installers

plain grove
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How do I do that

obsidian wigeon
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are they compressed files?

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or are just .exe

plain grove
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Compressed

obsidian wigeon
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extract em

plain grove
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How do I do that

viral mountain
plain grove
obsidian wigeon
plain grove
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Alright and where do I drag them to?

obsidian wigeon
viral mountain
obsidian wigeon
obsidian wigeon
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you could get like 3060ti for 1.5k

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it roasts that 1660 like all day

viral mountain
plain grove
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Yeah that list does suck

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You can get 2 sticks of 8gb for like 60

obsidian wigeon
plain grove
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But foxy don’t I have to drag them in the pc before I run the file?

obsidian wigeon
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just drag into anywhere you want

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it doesn't matter

plain grove
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Alright I’ll drag it in downloads

obsidian wigeon
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@viral mountain look at those two choices i got for ya

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same specs

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just different case

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well the one with rog case is better

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so imma just get rid of the other one lol

plain grove
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Alright how do I extract it?

obsidian wigeon
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Just right click on the file

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And choose "Extract All"

plain grove
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I don’t have that option

obsidian wigeon
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huh

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Well show me your screen with the right click menu

plain grove
obsidian wigeon
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choose the file by clicking on it once

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then right click

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it'll show

plain grove
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The compressed one right

obsidian wigeon
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yep

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Click once, then right click

plain grove
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Alright got the extract option

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What do I do after that

obsidian wigeon
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Hmn, show me your screen again

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Then I'll tell you, dunno how it'll look

plain grove
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It downloaded then it went to this pc

obsidian wigeon
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alright

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just, get into the folder

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there should be installer somewhere inside

plain grove
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Any of those

obsidian wigeon
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gimme a sec

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See the yellow mark?

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That's the one you have to launch

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I marked it for ya

plain grove
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I don’t see it

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Nvm

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I click that?

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@obsidian wigeon

obsidian wigeon
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ye

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Double click on it and click yes if windows prompts

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Then follow through the process

plain grove
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Is that normal?

obsidian wigeon
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Yes

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Just click run

plain grove
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Alright clicked run then yes

obsidian wigeon
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Now follow the installer

plain grove
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Alright it’s installing

obsidian wigeon
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Restart and you should be able to connect to ethernet

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Once it's done that is

plain grove
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Alright it’s done

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So I just need to restart

obsidian wigeon
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You can install audio too before if you want

plain grove
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Alright same thing with the extract?

obsidian wigeon
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It looks like to be in a folder already

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The one in downloads

plain grove
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Alright I see setup I click that

obsidian wigeon
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yes

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It's similar process

calm heron
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should i use my SSD that already haave windows and some games i play on my new pc Or redownload everything on M.2

obsidian wigeon
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Once done restart, wipe all the driver files if you want, it won't be needed once things works

obsidian wigeon
plain grove
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Alright and it even gave me the option to restart

obsidian wigeon
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Restart with it then

calm heron
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other than cloning

obsidian wigeon
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Weeeeell

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You could do whatever you want tbh

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I just want the m.2 to be the drive with OS imo

calm heron
obsidian wigeon
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It's faster

plain grove
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It’s telling me to

calm heron
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i just dont get it there's a lot of Names on m.2

obsidian wigeon
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While the sata one for less important stuff and games

calm heron
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M.2 SSD m.2 NVMI idk

plain grove
obsidian wigeon
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most m.2 ssds are nvme

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m.2 sata is less common

plain grove
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Is it not wireless

obsidian wigeon
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uh yes

calm heron
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nvme that one conecct to your motherboard ?

obsidian wigeon
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the mobo isn't wifi

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also yes

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most mobos these days has m.2 nvme slot

plain grove
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So I need a cable to have internet

obsidian wigeon
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ye

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ethernet cable

calm heron
plain grove
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That sucks

obsidian wigeon
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connect to either your modem or router

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they're like cheap too so not much worry

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better than a wifi card

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unless you really need wifi

calm heron
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also what does that means

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plain grove
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I mean

obsidian wigeon
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ah

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it's a prebuilt

calm heron
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yes.

plain grove
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Foxy what’s better to build a pc or to buy a prebuilt?

obsidian wigeon
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at the moment

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i would say prebuilt, gpus are too expensive

calm heron
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thats why ;-;

obsidian wigeon
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so

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can you tell me

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do you have any say, hdd or ssd around?

plain grove
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Yes

obsidian wigeon
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or is that the only drive you have that's in the prebuilt

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nah im asking qripton lol

calm heron
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the prebuild pc i didn't recived yet i was just checking

obsidian wigeon
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alright

calm heron
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for now i only have 500GB HDD

obsidian wigeon
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well yes you have to download basically everything you want in the ssd

calm heron
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and an SSD 240gb

obsidian wigeon
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it should already come with windows installed

calm heron
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windows home

obsidian wigeon
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you can wipe the other drives or something if you wish

calm heron
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i can connect my old ssd to new prebuild ?

obsidian wigeon
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yep

calm heron
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sweet

obsidian wigeon
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it should have 2.5" mounts or bays somewhere

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as for hdd there's probably 3.5" bay somewhere, idk

calm heron
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but what does Peripherals: Gaming Keyboard and Mouse means

obsidian wigeon
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depends on what case the prebuilt has

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ah, it just means it comes with mouse and keeb

calm heron
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ah and wwhat is it exaacly

obsidian wigeon
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it's probably cheap stuff

calm heron
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yikes

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

calm heron
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welp Thanks for the help

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i hope i can recived today

obsidian wigeon
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gl on your new rig

calm heron
obsidian wigeon
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wifi cards goes for like erm

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20-30 or so

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usb ones exists for cheaper but they're bleh

plain grove
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What’s the difference @obsidian wigeon

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Nvm I’ll just go with Ethernet ig

formal girder
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Ethernet is best choice if you capable of running the cable if you cant then wifi is last option

ripe wedge
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^^

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Ethernet will be most stable

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When I bought my wifi/Bluetooth card it was like $35 but it’s an asus one because I didn’t wanna buy some weird brand like fenvi or whatever

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For my other pc. It’s a pcie card.

cosmic wraith
little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
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what about the 240mm

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Like is the build quality good etc

fossil cedar
little osprey
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no im just asking in general if a gamdias cooler is good

fossil cedar
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No idea lol

little osprey
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too small of a company to be widely known ig

fossil cedar
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There probs is some reviews but tbh i haven't looked into them before

tawny violet
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dGPU recommendations to pair with a 5700G?

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Can it run a 3080 well, or only 3070

fossil cedar
tawny violet
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Hey that's awesome

fossil cedar
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It depends like it you're playing csgo or valorant the 3080/ti the cpu would be a bottleneck, even a 3060 ti would be

tawny violet
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To be fair those aren't my favorite per se

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More RDR2, GTAV and so on

little osprey
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you should be fine

tawny violet
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Yeah that was my thought as well
But it's nice to be reassured that I'm not an idiot

little osprey
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i can run gtav 75fps max settings on 9400f/1650

fossil cedar
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^And there's nothing wrong with a cpu bottleneck for most people who want better looks over fps

tawny violet
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My point was that I'm not a CSGO player mainly

little osprey
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Understandable

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I have never played csgo in my life

tawny violet
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AC Valhalla, RDR2 and the like is more enticing to me

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So the classical AAA titles

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So the 5700G+3080 is a solid combo I take?

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Mainly for 1440p 144hz
Or 4k if I fancy

fossil cedar
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Why 5700g btw?

tawny violet
# fossil cedar Why 5700g btw?

So that I can game even if I don't find a reasonably priced GPU
And have the headroom to run a strong dGPU when I find one

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Cuz supply is still butt

fossil cedar
tawny violet
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Again, it's good performance now (and available)
And has headroom to go beyond later

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Sure it's no 5800X
But it's not a bad thing

analog pulsar
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I have question

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so

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more m.2 slots i use means less sata ports i can use

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idk

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i used m.2 slot 1 and i lose access to sata port 1

little osprey
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think it depends on your motherboard

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but if thats the case just swap the sata port

analog pulsar
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yea but my mobo has 4 m.2 slots so will i lose 4 sata ports

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i wanna fill them up with ssds

fossil cedar
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@analog pulsar what motherboard do you have tho?

analog pulsar
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ASUS z-590 gaming-E

serene pulsar
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Best SSD storage under 150$

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1 TB

celest horizon
analog pulsar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
analog pulsar
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ah okay

little osprey
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What’s a good motherboard for the 5800x

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@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
little osprey
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Canada

glacial umbra
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canadian time?

little osprey
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?

fossil cedar
little osprey
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K thx

little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
long rock
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Tonight imma be installing a new mobo, CPU and RAM, I’ve heard windows will need to partially re install. I’m kinda worried I will somehow mess it up lol

little osprey
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Lol

earnest olive
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depends on how drastic of a shift in hardware it is

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my friend's windows install survived the upgrade from 6600K to 10600K

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another's survived the upgrade from 7700K to 10600K

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if you're switching intel > amd or vice versa it probably will not survive

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you will need a new key if you're getting a new mobo

long rock
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Current and soon to be specs
Gigabyte GA78MLT USB3 R2 Mobo
AMD FX6300
AMD RX580
8 gigs DDR3 1600
1TB hard Drive
600 Watt EVGA 80 Plus Bronze PSU

New
MSI B450 Tomahawk
AMD R5 3600X
AMD RX580
16 gigs DDR4 3600
ITB HDD
600 Watt EVGA 80 Plus Bronze PSU

earnest olive
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oh yeah definitely reinstall time

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little osprey
earnest olive
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i sure hope you are getting an ssd..

little osprey
long rock
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Your the 2nd person that has asked that. Is it critical that I get one?

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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your old pc with an ssd would be faster than your new pc without one

long rock
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Yeah I probably need one then lol

little osprey
earnest olive
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a pc in 2021 with no ssd is like a car without wheels

long rock
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I’m also hoping to get a new case eventually lol

earnest olive
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i just got rid of my 6tb hdd

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ssd only now

long rock
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Interesting

earnest olive
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sold my old pc with the 6tb hdd inside this morning

long rock
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What would you recommend for an SSD?

earnest olive
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best bang for the buck rn

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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best can be subjective

little osprey
long rock
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I just spent 530 bucks on these new components, I’d like to at least work a few weeks and make some money back before I spend anything else

earnest olive
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the x570 dark hero or x570 dark is objectively going to be the best choice but buying that to daily drive a 5800x would be beyond stupid

fossil cedar
little osprey
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Yeah

fossil cedar
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its dumb to spend 300$ on a board for a 5800x tho

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you dont get extra perf or anything

little osprey
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Oh

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But what is the best under 200 us

long rock
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So I need to look into getting a windows product key then it sounds like

fossil cedar
long rock
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Or will it re install when I boot the computer for the first time with the new stuff?

little osprey
earnest olive
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windows key is tied to motherboard

long rock
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K, so I’ll need to purchase a key then I think

fossil cedar
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really not worth

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and the tuf board is actually more expensive in usd

little osprey
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Ok so what’s a good motherboard ca

fossil cedar
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the 2 i linked you

little osprey
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Ok

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Thx

fossil cedar
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np

little osprey
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Should I pair the 5800 with a 3080

long rock
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So am I right to expect the new parts to take twice as long and be twice as difficult to install than what I’m expecting?

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This is my first time doing something this major on something that isn’t a car lol

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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it doesnt take that long

long rock
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Prolly from the time@I get home to the time I go to bed, so about 5-6 hours

fossil cedar
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thats very long

long rock
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Yes

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I’m very not confident

fossil cedar
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i walked my friend through building one for first time

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over video call

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and it took 1.5-2hrs

long rock
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I’m setting the bar low so I can impress myself if it takes a shorter amount of time

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Okay that’s not bad

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I’ve never been so scared of Windows 10 lol

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It just sounds so complicated

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Back up my data, install new equipment, boot up, insert key, intstalls: re download my games and all that, and I’m good to go?

fossil cedar
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You upgrading a current system?

long rock
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Yes, scroll up for details, new mobo cpu and the

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intel is typing

fossil cedar
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@long rock do you not have an ssd? eyes

desert gulch
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i was typing, you are correct

long rock
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No...?

fossil cedar
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That system gonna still feel slow af without one

long rock
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God

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Well will I get any more fps outta my games?

lyric thistle
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when you're typing

fossil cedar
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No but they'll load way faster

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And windows wont take like 3 min to boot

desert gulch
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it can actually cause better fps in some scenarios

long rock
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God, I’ve spendt so much money

desert gulch
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like if youre recording and saving that footage to hdd and gaming and the game loads assets throughout the game it could lag

long rock
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Getting that SSD is gonna be another like, hundred bucks

lyric thistle
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minecraft: if you have a lot of data heavy things, like a large set of player heads, they will freeze the game for a moment loading on a hard drive

desert gulch
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yeah

lyric thistle
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literally doesn't happen on an ssd

long rock
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Mmm

desert gulch
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minecraft is a great example

fossil cedar
lyric thistle
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yeah just get a 500gb

fossil cedar
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Doesn't have to be big

lyric thistle
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cheap enough

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could even get a 250gb but it's not too easy to get a good price on those

still roostBOT
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fossil cedar
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250gb usually like 5$ less than 500gb

long rock
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I guess the upside is Im on DDR4 and my CPU is a little more powerful, I’ll be able to run more stuff smoother

lyric thistle
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unless you find a pretty cool seller on ebay 😎

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got mine for 20 each

fossil cedar
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Way smoother

long rock
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I’m just worried I’ve spent a ton of money on stuff that won’t even make a difference

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The new CPU and RAM better be worth it

fossil cedar
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A decent ssd is a QUALITY investment

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How much did you pay for the 3600x?

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I don't wanna know do i?

long rock
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Uhh, lemme go look

fossil cedar
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I stg if it's more than like 200$ lol

long rock
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289?

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Off Newegg

stoic island
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Sad

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Should be 200$

long rock
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That’s not good

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Oh well

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Learning mistakes

fossil cedar
long rock
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Why the heck is it so high?

fossil cedar
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Scalped

long rock
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I mean, I defenetly want my money back

fossil cedar
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Cuz 3600 good from reviews 2 years sgo

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Ago

long rock
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When I get home, I wanna have a look at everything and figure out what I should do

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There’s just a lot of money I’ve spent, and I wanna make sure I’m doing the right thing

marble gust
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right now $169.99 for a 2tb sata ssd WD blue on newegg

fossil cedar
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Ntb

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Nicr

long rock
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So, I overpaid for the CPU, the issue is, everything is already here, I’m not sure how I’d send it back, get my money back, and then shop for one that didn’t cost as much

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It is a Zen 2 chip, if that helps justify the price?

marble gust
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@long rock you can sell it on offer up or facebook marketplace

long rock
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Newer architecture is good right?

marble gust
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and what CPU you got

long rock
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Currently?

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An FX6300

marble gust
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the one you brought

long rock
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Oh, the R5 3600X

marble gust
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😱

long rock
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🤨

stoic island
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(current generation is Zen 3)

jagged ember
marble gust
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you can sell it. Maybe loose some money

plain grove
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yeah maybe

marble gust
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but depends how much the restock fee is

stoic island
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Shouldn't be much

jagged ember
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That'll be less than the amount you'd lose trying to sell it

stoic island
#

Might just make you pay shipping

fossil cedar
jagged ember
#

What he said

long rock
#

🥺😭

stoic island
#

5600x still an option

jagged ember
#

Hm

stoic island
#

Simpler than to swap everything

jagged ember
#

Depends on budget, but yeah

stoic island
#

Esp if shipping costs add up

long rock
#

I mean I did buy on a whim, I kinda knew what I wanted

jagged ember
#

Could also consider that

fossil cedar
long rock
#

I’m not sure

stoic island
#

Don't remember, lemme check

long rock
#

I’m kinda sad rn

fossil cedar
#

Cuz if it has bios flashback you can just return cpu

#

And get a 5600x

#

Massive jum0

long rock
#

The 5600X is a GPU isn’t it?

#

Oh wait

#

It’s a Zen 3 cars

fossil cedar
#

Nope

long rock
#

Duh

stoic island
#

Looks like it does..?

fossil cedar
#

What's with the q mark lol?

limpid shard
#

hi

long rock
#

Hmm, okay, so it’s like a trade in thing? Send the one back, get a 5600X, what’s the purpose?

fossil cedar
long rock
#

Hmm, ight

stoic island
#

Okay had to check, it does have a bios w agesa 1.2.0.2

long rock
#

Alright, so possible CPU swap, is it as simple as sending the card back and just asking for a 5600X?

stoic island
#

It's returning one and buying a whole new one

fossil cedar
#

^

stoic island
#

But in essence, basically

long rock
#

Would I get a refund for the return?

fossil cedar
#

Ye

stoic island
#

Yes, that's the point of the return

long rock
#

Mkay

#

So I think everything else should be good then

#

The Ram and Mobo

stoic island
#

Change what ram to what ram

long rock
#

DDR3 1600 to DDR4 3600 on the new Tomahawk

stoic island
#

That would be good

long rock
#

The DDR3 is coming off a Gigabyte GA78MLT USB3 R2

#

Okey doke

#

I’m wondering if I can live with the stuff, I mean, it’s just more hassle to return and replace I think, I guess I’ll go see how the 2 CPUs stack up

stoic island
#

You can look up any 5600x review and benchmark if you want

#

(other than ub)

marble gust
#

3600vs 5600 is a decent jump. Better OC, stability and decent jump

jagged ember
#

Ub is garbage

long rock
#

320 for a 3600X? Isn’t 290 a good deal then?

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jagged ember
#

NO

stoic island
#

Noooo not ub

jagged ember
#

ANYTHING BUT THAT SITE

long rock
#

Oh

jagged ember
#

reeeeeeeeeeeee

marble gust
#

@stoic island hit the nail in the head. Ya watch Jaytwocent, hardware unboxed, linus,GN. There a lot. too many

stoic island
#

GN

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Anandtech

#

Tom's hardware

#

TPU

#

Guru3d

marble gust
#

correct. Too many

long rock
#

I guess I’ll look at 5600Xs and see what I can get one for, I wasn’t even wanting to spend 300 on a CPU, too much IMP

#

IMO

marble gust
#

kitguru seems good

long rock
#

So theoretically I should be able to get a 5600X for less than what I paid for the 3600X?

stoic island
#

Well, microcenter, yes, online retailer, probably not.

#

Kitguru can be good

#

Microcenter sells 5600x at like 260$ at times

marble gust
#

Possibly

long rock
#

Ooh nice

stoic island
#

Usually online retailers do like 280$ 290$ lowest

long rock
#

This sounds appealing

stoic island
#

Microcenter is just great for everything if you're near one

marble gust
#

259.99 atm in microcenter

jagged ember
#

See

long rock
#

I’d like to recoup as much as possible and put the money towards new opticals

marble gust
stoic island
#

Optical?

fossil cedar
#

Also way more than 7%

stoic island
#

More like a single year ago but yea

long rock
#

So 289, spend 260 on a 5600X, that’s 20 bucks I make back I think?

jagged ember
#

Basically

#

Minus couple bucks overhead

long rock
#

Keyboards and mouse opticals

jagged ember
marble gust
#

I saw that 5800x was on sale on newegg

jagged ember
#

Those are peripherals

long rock
#

That

#

Yes

jagged ember
#

I'm not sure what you meant by optical lol

long rock
#

I’m a pinecone

#

Idk lol

#

So, how long would the exchange take?

jagged ember
#

Shouldn't take too long

long rock
#

If I return it tonight or something, would I have a refund by tommorow?

stoic island
#

Might take up to a week, depends on the bank afaik

jagged ember
#

Yeah, I was gonna say about a week

long rock
#

Hmmm

marble gust
#

Doubtful, until they arrive to their hand. Could take a couple days to a week

long rock
#

Okay

marble gust
#

or give you store credit. Not sure where you bought it

long rock
#

Guess that gives me time to do more research on a case and such

stoic island
#

As in they'll refund it, the funds just won't be available for like a week depending on the bank

long rock
#

Newegg

#

Okey doke

stoic island
jagged ember
#

Sure is

long rock
#

Ugh this is tearing at me, I really just want to run with what I’ve got for now

fossil cedar
jagged ember
long rock
#

I litterally go home from work in 20 mins, and just want to set the stuff up

jagged ember
#

You will literally pay less

stoic island
jagged ember
#

For better performance

#

I think that's worth waiting a week

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

But the price was that

fossil cedar
#

Ye okay

long rock
#

Hmmm

jagged ember
#

And it's a pretty significant performance boost too in terms of cpu

long rock
#

A week

jagged ember
#

Up to

#

Not exactly one week

stoic island
#

Everything in everything depends and varies :(

jagged ember
#

Just like our sponsor for each segue varies

marble gust
#

@jagged ember lol

long rock
#

So I could cash my check, have the money in a few days, that sets me right around 5.2, so next Friday I would get the refund if I returned tonight, so 5.5, then subtract 260 roughly, so 5.3 ish, hmm, get the paycheck from that week cashed and I’ve made the money back already from what I originally spend on all the parts

jagged ember
#

Oh nice

fossil cedar
#

Heres a more realistic diff between the 2 cpus btw

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jagged ember
#

You get your paycheck in addition to refund

jagged ember
#

Big, big difference

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My 3600 cries in anguish

long rock
#

I see maybe a 3 FPS difference?

jagged ember
#

No no

#

3600 is near the bottom

long rock
#

Ooohhh

jagged ember
#

Second last haha

long rock
#

Christ

jagged ember
#

Yeah

#

20 bucks less for that much more

#

Definitely worth it

long rock
#

Okey doke

#

Im so impatient lol, I wish I had not bought all this just last night

stoic island
#

Keep in mind CPU tests are tested in places where it's CPU bound, you can definitely be GPU bound, and in those places, the differences are much lower

jagged ember
#

Oh, right that's a good thing to note

fossil cedar
#

But more cpu for less is a deal lol

stoic island
#

Can't tell a guy on iGPU trying to play cyberpunk they'll see 20% gains from like a 7700k to 11900k yaknow

jagged ember
#

This is why I am not techie

#

But I need a segue role

stoic island
#

Nuisances are nuisances

marble gust
#

@long rock Go and check youtube and good reviews between 3600x vs 5600x and make a judgment

long rock
#

Alrighty

stoic island
#

Or find article reviews on google

#

I like articles

marble gust
#

so what Mr11 myself and others say check the reviews.

fossil cedar
marble gust
#

sure

fossil cedar
#

Here is the gn review btw

jagged ember
#

I like GN articles

stoic island
marble gust
#

@Mr1111 hit the nail in the head. Ya watch Jaytwocent, hardware unboxed, linus,GN,kitgurus. Anandtec,tpu,guru3d, tomshardware

desert gulch
#

I don't watch jay, he's too dumb for me

jagged ember
#

Linus is more entertaining

stoic island
#

Kinggurus..? You mean kitguru?

jagged ember
#

I wouldn't rely too heavily on his stuff lol

marble gust
stoic island
#

I'm also on phone but yes, autocorrect is painful

marble gust
#

Ya sometimes he's. But make the videos interesting, and see qhat weird thibg he's ginna do @desert gulch

desert gulch
#

Yeah

#

I just like ppl who use more technical language

stoic island
#

Linus is entertainment, not information, imo.

marble gust
desert gulch
#

Other than Greg Salazar

#

He sucks

stoic island
#

Not that Linus is bad, info is just not the focus of his content

desert gulch
#

Yea

#

He prolly still reccomends the 3600 lol

fossil cedar
#

Linus nice and relaxing tho

marble gust
desert gulch
#

Nah

#

He has no idea what the hell he's talking about

#

I'm guessing he wikipedias everything

#

Greg pretends hes smart but in reality he kinda a dum dum

lyric thistle
#

I wikipedia everything and I'm gigasmart 😎

jagged ember
#

Greg is

#

Dum

fossil cedar
#

Also linus gives enough info for most people

jagged ember
#

He reads wiki word for word it feels like

desert gulch
#

Linus just says everythings good

#

Like the p5

#

He says it's a great drive

#

When in reality he could do a little better

#

He prolly is so uncritical because he doesn't want the sponsors to stop supporting him

marble gust
#

ya. maybe sponsor pressure

#

that why gn and others say check other reviews and don't take the results as perfect

desert gulch
#

Also forky summed up Greg Salazar perfectly

marble gust
#

ohh the 10k canadian routers or whatever

desert gulch
#

Idk

#

He just is kinda sketch imo

#

Lol

marble gust
# desert gulch

If he didn't know anything about PC, then how he got PC into peaces and nothing breaks. Just confused regarding that

jagged ember
#

Just cause you can build a pc

#

Doesn't mean he's a pro

#

I can do that

long rock
#

So, if I get a 5600X, the difference would be insane for the money?

desert gulch
#

Yeah I built my PC using 1 yt tutorial

jagged ember
#

I'm still pretty much an idiot

desert gulch
long rock
#

Yeah

marble gust
#

I get that. But taking everything into the smallest parts. That why I take that he knows a bit

desert gulch
#

Yeah it also costs a bit more in total tho too

jagged ember
desert gulch
#

Cause you'll need a better cooler to rly take advantage of the 5600x

marble gust
#

Yes. ask the seller how much is restock fees and difference if you get 5600x and a new MoBo if that your plan

jagged ember
#

He won't need a new mobo

#

And restock fees aren't that expensive

desert gulch
#

Does his have flashback?

jagged ember
#

it's newegg

jagged ember
marble gust
#

well 15% sometimes. Maybe the seller wave it. Just ask before doing anything

desert gulch
#

Gud

jagged ember
#

Mr said he did before

desert gulch
#

If he hadn't opened the box there is no restock

#

Just return shipping

#

Afaik

marble gust
#

I know. But you see him taking the stuff apart,but you see it

#

true. I rarely return things.

jagged ember
marble gust
#

mostly ebay issues. But ya. I maybe have returned 10 items on stuff I brought

jagged ember
#

But do I know what I'm doing?

#

Nah

#

Can I put it back together?

marble gust
#

wanna take my 1070 and clean it. =p

jagged ember
#

Idk

#

But I can take it apart

desert gulch
#

Taking a gpu apart isn't complicated

#

It's just screws

marble gust
#

I get it. for me that be the hard part. Put all the connections correctly

desert gulch
#

Then you gotta repaste it

jagged ember
#

That too

desert gulch
#

Not rocket science

marble gust
#

I know is not. For me is thinking of screwing some up and breaking it

jagged ember
#

Still doesn't mean he knows his stuff tho

jagged ember
marble gust
#

is your opinion. Like I said before, check many resources and videos. That how you learn and see differences

jagged ember
#

He literally stated he forgot more stuff than 'ill ever learn'

#

Like that's just a bad response lmao

#

Just like 1usmus trying to defend the bugs in his program shoving 1.5v into cpus under load

marble gust
#

I think Wikipedia is a decent place to start with research of topic rhen start finding credible resources

#

who is 1usmus?

jagged ember
marble gust
#

uff 1.5v a lot

jagged ember
#

Yeah

#

He was adamant that 1.5v could never harm a cpu lmao

marble gust
#

or the verge PC build lol

fossil cedar
jagged ember
#

He even swore at the people who made an article trying to help him identify and fix the problem

fossil cedar
#

actually cheaper for 5600x

marble gust
#

what CPU was that?

jagged ember
#

Well, something like that

#

It was an article stating the team couldn't reccomend using CTR 2.0

#

And using pbo was safer for now

marble gust
#

ahh 1.5v on a 3600x?

fossil cedar
#

ctr poopy just use pbo

jagged ember
#

I can't remember the cpu lol

#

But 1.5v is never safe

marble gust
#

hey @fossil cedar how is that 3080ti you got last month?

fossil cedar
#

News to me

marble gust
#

my bad, Pato I ment Rommy

#

how is it?

fossil cedar
#

@elfin flame we are one 02nod

long rock
#

Alright so I talked to dad, he has no advice on what to do lol

#

So, is cracking open these boxes going to void any returns?

jagged ember
#

Don't open if u aren't gonna use

#

That occurs

#

If untouched it should just be shipping

long rock
#

This is painful, I’m really tempted to install all the stuff as is, I’m so impatient

#

5600X or no. Ughhhhh

marble gust
#

Always can update later to 5600X. or build another PC with the 3600x after you update

#

We have said that too

long rock
#

I am not building another PC lol

#

Mm

jagged ember
marble gust
#

@long rock I'm saying not now. But later in 2 years or beyond

long rock
#

I think I may hold off on the upgrade untill I get stuff situated

marble gust
#

could be good too. However you have 30 days before you can't return it

jagged ember
#

Your choice, but I'd return and get the 5600x

#

Board has flashback anyways

marble gust
#

yes Rommy

jagged ember
#

So bios upgrade is no issue

#

Yep

#

For 290

#

Yeah

marble gust
#

@elfin flame is along convo if you want to be updated

jagged ember
#

Loll that's what Im saying

marble gust
#

We told him to check reviews and decide

jagged ember
#

Worth the hassle, it is

#

Yoda, I have become

marble gust
#

@jagged ember All of us are saying the same. Make the decision of watching reviews or doing now, without watching the reviews

jagged ember
#

Segue, to our sponsor I must

celest horizon
#

5800x is cheap now too

jagged ember
#

Oo

#

Lol the trap of pc tho

celest horizon
#

$393 amazon

jagged ember
marble gust
#

can be a option too @celest horizon. But don't want to spend more

jagged ember
#

This thing is only a couple more dollars!

#

Then it turns out you are 1000 over your budget

fossil cedar
#

They bought for 280, they'll loose money then, returning for 5600x will gain perf and 20$ lol

marble gust
#

true

fossil cedar
#

Aye

#

Figured

#

Don't think they knew bout 5600x

#

Aye

#

Probs saw an old r5 3600 good review

marble gust
#

maybe he got a email or just saw on sale. Sometimes there's no research or been naivety brought it

#

It happens. btw there was a sale yesterday or thrusday of 5600 or 5800x on newegg. Any way to find it

#

it pooped up on newegg app

#

it was the app on my phone

long rock
#

Mmm

#

So I’ve thought some more, and I think I want to.....

marble gust
#

I thibk I found it 389.99 for 5800x

long rock
#

Damn, I still don’t know what I want to do

marble gust
#

@long rock the ball is on your side of the Cort. So basically is your decision

long rock
#

Pretty much lol

#

The weeks seem to be going by fast aswell

#

Which helps

marble gust
#

cool @elfin flame. all the time? or just in high FPS sceneries?

long rock
#

Plus If I get the 56, I have more headroom for games that are more intensive I think

fossil cedar
marble gust
#

just don't take to long before the return time expires. Then after that you're SOL.

long rock
#

Hmmm

#

Alright f#ck let’s return

marble gust
#

@long rock you brought this from newegg? Or from whom

long rock
#

Yes, got it from Newegg

marble gust
#

ok 30 days returns

long rock
#

What’s do I needs to do to get this returned?

marble gust
#

well good luck and see

#

i think you go to the website and send a refund from the invoice there

long rock
#

So, I am gonna open the motherboard and Ram, idk which box has what in it

#

There’s a big box and a smaller box

#

I think the CPU is in the smaller box

jagged ember
#

You can

#

Look at what's on the box?

#

Please don't open the 3600x box by mistake

long rock
#

It’s....not on the box

fossil cedar
#

Also no point opening the ram and motherboard yet

#

It says ryzen

jagged ember
#

Bunch of Ryzen branding on the cpu box

#

Bunch of branding on the mobo box

fossil cedar
#

And looks like this

1632007120196.jpg
jagged ember
#

Less on the ram, but it'll be super obvious which is which

jagged ember
long rock
#

Alright that looks like that is the smaller one

#

So I can open the shipping box, but not what’s inside of it

jagged ember
#

No real point to do that yet

#

As in

#

Opening stuff inside the shipping box

long rock
#

Ooh

jagged ember
#

Open shipping but nothing else

#

Put cpu box in shipping box for return

#

Probably need invoices and stuff on the outside and or inside

long rock
#

Big box....

image0.jpg
jagged ember
#

But initiate return on newegg to determine that

#

Hello ram

long rock
#

Hello beautiful motherboard

marble gust
#

uff

long rock
#

Ooh nice, it’s 3200 Ram, not 3600. Okey

jagged ember
#

The title is English lol

#

But everything else isn't

#

Weird

long rock
#

Lmao

#

Alrighty

marble gust
#

good ram. how much ram GB and speed

#

16gb 3600?

long rock
#

16 gigs of DDR4 3200

marble gust
#

ohh good

#

same ram I got too

long rock
marble gust
#

good good imo

fossil cedar
long rock
#

Hmm, open the motherboard box?

jagged ember
fossil cedar
#

Nah

#

No point

marble gust
#

alwaya OC. Or return too and get 3600. Be a bit more

little osprey
marble gust
#

what else you brought?

jagged ember
#

Lol

#

Y'all talk about ram oc like it's easy

#

It ain't

fossil cedar
marble gust
#

on the other box? is just CPU?

jagged ember
#

Orange spent weeks just tuning his ram

long rock
#

The CPU which i don’t even think imma open the shipping box

little osprey
marble gust
#

then return that

jagged ember
long rock
#

It is re closible or whatever

image0.jpg
fossil cedar
jagged ember
#

It's just a shipping box

fossil cedar
marble gust
#

may have to get a label printed. Can go to any mail place and send it there. When you get the return process started

fossil cedar
long rock
#

It’s so nice of them to include a booklet on how to install it

#

People are so nice

marble gust
#

Always send a manual. lol

little osprey
jagged ember
#

Basically the same

fossil cedar
long rock
#

All this s#it has Chinese on it

jagged ember
#

I think

long rock
#

Also English but lots of Chinese

little osprey
fossil cedar
marble gust
#

manuals will have multiple languages. English is not the only language

long rock
#

Okey so I have a disk for drivers and utilities, I don’t have a disc drive though

marble gust
#

no need. download all that after you install windows and such

jagged ember
#

Worry about this later

fossil cedar
#

You can download the drivers on the mobo website

jagged ember
#

When you have cpu

#

It'll be the same when you build anyways

marble gust
#

Someone needs to send a video of computer building before during and after completions

jagged ember
#

And it's just stressful if you're thinking about what to do now

long rock
#

Box is closed 🥺

image0.jpg
jagged ember
#

Also, carpet

marble gust
#

keep it inside the shipping box and th3 ram. Close it and make sure you don't damage it

long rock
#

I have hardwood, the carpet is just a rug

marble gust
#

yes, horrible

#

do your pc in a non carpet area

long rock
#

Yes

#

Oh f#ck is this even the right form factor?

#

I’m guessing yes lol

#

Uhh, alrighty

#

Guess we will get on with the return

jagged ember
#

Ree

#

Swore

marble gust
#

looked atx to me

long rock
#

See ya in a week 🥺

image0.jpg
#

Because I am on the midsize case size, not full ATX

#

Uhhh

marble gust
#

midsize cases do let you use atx boards

#

maybe be a bit tight but ya

jagged ember
#

Just check when u buy

marble gust
#

depends what case it is

little osprey
long rock
#

ATX Mid

little osprey
marble gust
#

@little osprey late to the party, but yes

little osprey
#

I was watching

#

But not typing

long rock
#

Current board looks about the same sized