#building-and-recc-chat
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Mine didn't come updated to the latest version at the time, but then again I bought mine back over a year ago
Can update bios without a cpu
Nah
That's only the pro variant
Plus wifi pro
ah
Plus doesnt
doesnt amd send over cpu's for updating your bios for free on the rule you send it back
ye
Yea
yes but that's annoying
if it needs done it needs done. oh well
ye, good chance nowadays it's updated, but annoying if not
Mhmm
flashback is also just a nice feature in general
Ye
just get a intel cpu
i got stuck because if i didnt get the plus i lost out on $300 off. i wanted the pro (with flashback)
My x570 plus wifi had a 6 month old bios so I don't have a ton of confidence in asus
lol he's already got parts
Yeah
saying "get intel" now is too late
Lol yeah
sad
well if it doesn't boot
I mean, same thing there
then you f up
heck
ya could always get that and upgrade kit
whats the point getting intel. dont they sometimes have the same problem with bios not being up to date
amd*
you have stuff like b460 boards that won't even support 11th gen chips
and z490 boards can still need bios update to support 11th gen chips
It'd be a sin to even buy a b460 for anything nowadays too
but amd is good that they actually provide you free update kit
no one ise 11th gen these days
provided you ship it back to em
ye example
wut
Lol ye
WE USE 5TH GEN
whats a update kit?
The cpu
it's just sending you like a 200ge or smth
it the epic gamers cpu gen
Yeah
and then you update your bios w it
Buy a 10105 tbh
dude
They're sometimes cheaper, and they're better
100mhz better and a better stock cooler
SOMETIMES
Yeah
Yeah
better stock cooler fun
I've seen it at like $100 recently
Back to the 775 days
comparing mhz between intel and amd doesnt really mean much tbh
We were comparing it to 10100
10105 is its refresh
oh then im blind
Lol
Idk why 10105 was even created but I'm not complaining
here's the specific article w boot kit info at bottom
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-105
I wish it were made in 11th gen
thanks
Comet refresh is kinda a meme
danm my pc is expensive now
if only the mobo was like $50 i would have just got the $300 off and then bought the pro. maybe next time i upgrade ill get a flashback mobo
the thing is
a board about half the cost of x570-plus wifi has flashback (b550m pro vdh wifi, actually really competent board for the price of ~100-110$)
eh, it's decent nowadays
My mobo sucks ngl
Only single pwm header for case fans
And many headers were missing, but then again it's a cheaped out B550M-K
Has rog bios cause it's in an rog machine
It's such a weird thing
Hey guys if I bent a little pin in the back of the mobo is that bad
I’ll send a pic
What pin?
uhhhh, maybe/maybe not
ehhh
U can’t rlly see it on picture
Oh okay I was worried for a sec
Just be careful
did you drop it or something
I am
what?
need help?
i get everything tomarow. i only got half today
am I bottle necked by anything in my system? not really sure and came to ask for help 
idk lmao
kinda hard to tell
i will. my desk space kinda sucks so i wont really be able to see the inside when its on the shelf. but ill take a picture without it in the shelf real quick.
is it my ethernet?
dont worry just the pc case no need to be inside the pc
well if all you want to see is the front of the case i can take a picture now
i thought you wanted to see a angled side view picture of the whole thing built
NAH DONT WORRY
shikes I scratched the mobo
NO I WILL GO FOR 10100F
oh and i will finally be able to play pcvr too. i have a quest 2, im going to have fun with wireless
vr?
NICEEE
If u scratch a mobo u fine right? 0-o
what are you doing over there!? it depends if it still works
kinda
it's fine
but don't make it too deep
like what i did with mine
this is the kind of scratch that will kill the mobo
well it wasn’t that big like it’s not even visible if u don’t zoom in
Oh
Yeah if you gouge it on that area you can damage the audio
U can barely see the scratch
Yeh that's just a surface scratch
Unfortunate. I see where there's a couple traces outside the audio zone that got tagged too.
the audio line is the golden line
Oh
also well, onboard audio is always meh
I’m rlly new to pc building as u can tell
you need an external dac to get the most outta like high end audio stuff
but for most cases
onboard works fine
so dw too much
Even with an isolated audio zone like that will still be subject to some electrical interference, causing some light pops and crackles
Nah
An external dac is a dedicated dac that connects to yo pc
It improves audio quality, and solves inteference issues if it's a good one
DAC = Digital to Analog Converter
I want dac for my laptop tbh
It loves to hiss
fiio e10k would be nice
Both dac and amp
Yeah I kinda have a problem I accidentally put the wrong screw when I was putting the motherboard on the case and now the screw is stuck and I don’t want to damage the mb anyone know a way to take it out?
Well your only option here is to gently and carefully unscrew it…
Common sense
Or just leave it in there
I tried that
If it’s not causing an immediate problem then just leave it
Basically I think the screw is bent so when I try to pull it out it spins but doesn’t come out
then unbend it
Lol i tried that I almost broke the mb
:/
Finally finished by build rocking a 9900k and RTX 3070 MSI ventus 2x ive had the PC with no GPU for 9 months and finally was able to get one off of the Newegg shuffle
Niceeee
Not bad at all
yep runs every game i play at 1440p 165 fps or above
Cant plug this eps cable fully in ://
Try another cable or shave down the corners a bit
Ask it nicely
Yeah I was thinking about trimming the corner a bit because it’s a bit short
lemme get my tools
this is true
Took me a second to see it, but ya, shave that shizznit down
^
What’s pci-e
It’s labeled on the power supply but when I look on the mb I see pci 2 and 3
So I can just put it in any pci slot
You plug it into the gpu
Not the slot lol
The gpu goes into the slot on the mobo
Just ignore it if your gpu doesn't need one
ya
The other ones in the photo are for sata devices like hard drives or molex devices
If only I knew what that was
I’m knew to pc building I did quite a bit of research but I’m still clueless
Molex stuff is rare these days, usually unused
Do I don’t need to plug it in?
ye
Not if you don't have anything that uses it
What do I need to plug in so far I got the cpu gpu,cpu fan, power supply and there’s more wires
@potent portal did you see my pong?
Read your mobo's manual too tbh
Then the front panel headers
ye
It's all in the manual for your case and/or motherboard, I can tell you what page if you tell us which one it is
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Case?
From this morning? Was no one able to put together a $2k build? I was busy then
Bgears b-Voguish Gaming PC Front and Side with Tempered Glass ATX Desktop Mid Tower case, USB3.0, Support E-ATX, ATX, MicroATX, ITX Motherboard
Well not one with peripherals
If you have time now
I'm curious what you would go with
2k including monitor mouse and keyboard?
The front panel stuff is on page 32 including a picture showing where each connector goes
The USB connector is shown on page 34
Everything is even labeled to correct order
Well provided the case's connectors has pinout lettering
It does
Just follow it and it'll be fine
Match the side of the connectors to the headers and such
Colored wires are + , black are -
If it's not labeled
Since they're all black it should be labeled
ya
Does it fully need to go in or can it be a little out for the pins?
It should be as far in as you can get it ideally
^
alright I didn’t wanna break it
Use some force and let go if you feel it can't go in anymore
It won't break too easily
Make sure to go in straight too
Alright
My case didn’t come with a manual so I might be a little confused where does audio usually go?
Does the case have extra audio connector?
I see something that says jaud1
Yeah
No
I have to start from nothing
Just one foxy
Reason: Bad word usage
Reason: Too many infractions
Alright, well
Oops
I feel like it goes in jaud1
for the front panel
Alright
Reeee
Yep that’s definitely the one the pins line up as well
good
Now I wanna make sure I did this right I only had one cable marked for usb I put it in usb1 but there’s also a usb 2
Either one it fits in will work
^
oh wow asus manual is pain to read
im goin thru my mobo's manual lol
msi is much easier
cause it's bigger
That’s usb 3 right?
looks like it
Alright
Nope it doesn’t
for the mobo that is
Sata cable on the psu?
Nah you don't need to connect it unless you have sata drives
Besides if it's on the psu, it has to connect to sata devices anyway
Not the mobo
The mobo is for data cable for sata
yeah don't worry about those right now
So basically i don’t need these wires and don’t need to plug in the sata
Yes, if you don't have any sata devices
Ah
Then use the sata cable on the psu
Connect it to the hdd, smaller part of its connector
As for mobo, it should have a sata cable somewhere
Then just connect it to both mobo and hdd's data connector
Is that all I notice there’s something missing on the right
thats not a sata cable
Wait it's right
The guide looks like that
So ye I was confused
Alright what about the pins on the right do I need a wire for that
Or what I already have works?
No nothing on those pins, only power on the left and the data you already connected
Alright good to know
yep
Alright
I’m done with everything except for my fans but idk where they go or even if I did them right
Your fan header locations are marked on page 35
2 per fan? They must be RGB
Yeah
Ok let me see if that case comes with a hub
Because you don't have enough headers for all of those
Looks like there's a splitter so that's good at least
The fans are rated at 0.29A so you can do 3 on a single header just fine
This one goes into one of the fan headers on the board
It's hard to tell in this angle but check if this has 3 or 4 holes
3
Ok, that one goes in the header marked on page 39, jrainbow1
That should be it for the fans but it's hard to tell if those were exactly the right connectors. We'll know when you boot it up.
The rest of the connectors are optional based on other configurations
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TtPgXL/asrock-x570-pg-velocita-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-pg-velocita What do you guys think ab this mobo?
Seems ok but B550 is better for most people
heard that X570 mobo is more premium than B550 mobo
B550 is newer so it tends to have newer VRM design. Besides that, the chipset fan on X570 has the potential to fail and adds more noise.
The only real difference going up to X570 is both M.2 slots are gen 4 (irrelevant to 99.9%) there are more PCIe lanes (doesn't matter with a single GPU) and there's up to 2 more USB ports.
But this Asrock is Gen2 X570. Does that make any difference?
It might have an updated VRM design but besides that no
Most people really don't need the extra features from X570, so it's not worth the cost and other downsides.
What? No on the websites(except best buy and micro center they in person drops) it's all explained in the guide
Ok I have a question.
This is my first time building a pc and everything is installed.
The only problem im having is the wiring. I dont know where most of the cables go.
Can some walk me through it?
It really depends on what motherboard, parts, and PC case that you have. Some people buy motherboards that doesn't support the tech that the case allows and vice versa
barring the motherboard front panel power/reset/led connectors, you will find that all cables can only go in one place.
your mobo manual should have almost everything related to wires you need to know
alongside just big one go in big hole
if you're really lost on where PSU cables go, this guide should be helpful but I didn't have time time watch through all of it to double check: https://youtu.be/bZNbfgr0Y8w
Power supply cables can be confusing for beginners. Let's explain what each does and where each goes!
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Can Sombody help me with my first pc?
Just ask away
idk whats the best way to map my pcie cable cuse my case (NR600) doesnt have any holes that come from the bottome that can fit the 2x 8 pin pcie cables and atm i have it coming out like at the bottom corner of my motherboard do you guys know of any better ways to map it?
to route the cable for cable management or do you want to map the pinout...?
he alright. people make mistakes
He's quite a hack actually, but some of his contents are fine I guess
run them through the bottom hole in the motherboard tray
actually the way you are doing it sounds good. got a picture?
Reason: Bad word usage
my bad for the ghost ping foxy
but it's only plugging stuff in, even he should know that lol
fair
Going to school rn
Alr im back
timezones
Indeed
Hello could someone send me a decent build for 1000€
Games u play? Resolution? Settings u want to play on?
What country
Yeah?
For me its 7:20 est and i get on the bus at 6:30
Did you check the HDMI is connected to the GPU, not the MOBO.
:<<<<
It’s 12:30 for me
Pm
Same
Is the monitor on?
Oh
god
Try the other hdmi slots
Wait is that a asus prime mobo?
Nvm its a rog strix
Let us know if it works
I dont think the rams on or just leds are off
No
Looks awesome tho
Thank you
Yes I try every slot
hmm
But no signal
Maybe try a dif hdmi cable
My moni say ram
If not the card might be damaged
Like 3000
:((((
What GPU and CPU?
Well every part is booting right?
It could be the ram at first
@unreal bison you just had to send the PCpartpicker link =/
The moni light up that ram
mobo ym?
Id say ask a techie bc i dont have to much trouble shooting exp
The ram is the issue
Try booting with one stick
Or two
No, too much ram won't be an issue
Oh
32 surely isn't too much for anything that modern
I am reading your supports
Cuz i think he did a corsair build so everything should work
Yeah
it was foxy but yw
ohh now you need to find out which slot/ram stick is broken
Oh my god it looks good tho
Ooofffff
:(((
It hard
yeah
Ya gotta find out which slot/stick dies
Gotta test every single stick
Then start doing two sticks at a time
If you want
Well after you're done ya
Then if it doesn't boot well it's certainly ram being faulty
Gotta rma it
true, or use the ram you using and try every slot
Mobo works
if it boots all slots then try next stick and so on
So that's one big issue gone
Cool it works.
yes turn it off when you install or unistall things. Also, unplug it from the wall and press the power button before touching it
Ya hold on that
Hmmm my aio no on
It'll shut off
I'll let Foxy do the help
Oh
wait bruh did you plug in parts into your PC while it was on
No
It doesn't display?
Sorry, does it display anything?
I'm kinda sleepy lol
ah nvm it has dram light
tech support time?
Yeah
Yeah me test the last one
Yep
It honestly sucks to finish the build to find out something's dead, cause ya gotta wait for rma
So can I use 3 rams
Yes but uh
you might need to return them all
3x 32gb
for RMA
You paid for that ram, might as well use the warranty
But you need to return em all yes
Instead of 4 x32gb
They're a kit so
Bc ik now one won’t work
Nah you're actually running 24 gigs with 3 sticks
I put 32 gigs of ram in my 7 year old sisters pc
That should work if you decide to rma thru corsair
It's still their product after all
@unreal bison did you buy from a local store? they might offer returns right there and then, just depends where you bought it from
I bought from Amazon
Oof
amazon is pretty good with broken products, atleast from my personal experience
4 sticks of 32 go
does corsair charge shipping for RMA or will they cover it?
I'd look but im in school rn sorry
Yeah you alright
Thank you guys so so so much
I will keep you guys posted with My pc
alright good luck, hope everything goes over quick and smoothly
Yep
k
@fossil cedar in person drops what I can’t find any article you gotta link me man.
All the graphics card are leading me to Best Buy it’s bull.
in person drops just kinda show up
you can see articles about past ones
not future ones
for example @queen heath
https://www.pcmag.com/news/best-buy-to-sell-rtx-3000-graphics-cards-in-select-stores-tomorrow-july
too lazy to grab an article about the one few weeks ago
but that was one a few months ago
so
it makes sense to program your intake fans to run faster than exhaust, yeah?
more air coming in than going out
you could
I've never seen a significant difference in temps based off of air pressure alone
My 1U rack finally arrived LESS GOOOOO
Im not home though so I havent seen it yet.
That's not going to directly change temps
It will however create positive air pressure in the case
Meaning there will be slightly less dust in your case (especially if all the air intakes are filtered)
Or if you set it up well
A lot less maybe
thanks
check the manual
what are some good programs for stress testing my rig?
What's the cheapest gaming PC you guys can come up with that will run 1080p 60fps in Apex legends
You should u be able to use just the f_panel connecter if it matches your motherboard layout, if it doesn't then you use the thing with prongs coming out to seperste them
It’s because it’s an amd board
Every board can differ doesn't matter if intel or amd
Just check the pinot on your manual for front panel
Or stick the one block in and hope it is the right pinout, if it doesn't use the extender,( thing on the left) to do the layout properly
Anyone with a serious answer
Anyone know where I can get on a waiting list for a white strix card?
I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask but I've tried everything I can think of to get my gaming laptop working. No matter what I try i get zero activity from the computer. It's a lenovo Y520. I've tested the power suppy with a voltmeter and it reads good. I've tried checking battery cable connections. Tried reseating the RAM. Literally zero activity, no charging indicator light or anything. Does this mean it's a bricked computer or is there something else i can try?
it might be that the charging port is broken
I wouldn't know how to fix it, but it is fixable
Is there a way i could test the port?
I wouldn't know that either
all I know about charging ports and fixing them is that it's been done before. I remember watching a JayzTwoCents video, he fixed a relative's charging port
it was a janky way of fixing it but it worked
I mean it wasn't a tutorial (iirc) but it proves that it's possible to fix it
nah
should be fine
570 is fine with apex and apex likes FX fairly well
use 20.8.1 drivers
a 570 on PCIe 2.0 is not fun
I’m having some trouble connecting a newly built pc to my monitor
what?
its fine
i used a 570 on pcie3 for a long time
pcie2*
maybe i had a bad mobo
I just built my pc and when I connect it to my monitor and turn it on nothing happens
what's your specs
Does the specs matter?
make sure all wires are connected
yes
I made sure
Idk know them that’s the thing I just built it
you built a pc and didnt know what you put inside of it?
thats probably why its not showing lol
well then list the specs if you built it you should have boxes or receipts from where you brought it from
I just finished my build and everything is lighting up but its not posting
Any ideas?
Same thing with me man
list your specs for people to actually help you...
What specifically do you need to know?
5800x
3070
Enermax liqmax 240iii
Corsair vengeance ram
Corsair 4000x case
Asus b550-f
the specs what do you not understand lol?
Alright chill I got you😂
I tried updating bios and some other stuff the case fans are spinning either
Any error codes/LEDs on your mobo?
No
Try reseating your ram
I did
i know it sounds stupid but reseat your gpu
have you got another cable to test with?
Ive used this cable before so I believe it works
I could swap the ram maybe i have some extra
Is it worth a shot?
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have you got another gpu to test with? it could be a dead gpu
For me only boot
@plain grove you using integrated graphics?
Nah the gpu is fine it was from a prebuild i was using
He doesn’t have them
No
wasnt speaking to him sorry for the misunderstanding lol
graphics card where?
Try reseating your boot drive
Im not using one
Your ram, cpu, and gpu are fine
They are just dark no color
so you are using integrated graphics @plain grove
Okay ill try reseating the nvme
Yes possibly idk tbh
are you plugging straight into your motherboard or nah
This is so goddamn confusing
Same problems for two people with different hardware
just ping whoever you speak to ig
Dom you had the B550F?
@plain grove look at the back of your case
And Dallying what is your motherboard?
Boot
Forget about your GPU, it’s not that
Something is up with your boot drive
Reseat whatever SSD your OS is on
Wdym
I’m using a hard drive
Are you able to get into your bios?
What’s that?
does your pc display anything or does it stay black screen basically
Normally if I turn it on it’s supposed to turn on the monitor with it
Make sure the monitor is on then do what I just said
The pc turns on but the monitor doesn’t
So there’s no motherboard logo or anything like that when you turn it on?
^
Thanks
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what cpu?
howdy
Yeah those aren’t specs it’s just going into fine details of your mobo lol
Hola @glacial umbra
what be the issue here pardner
No post
.
lemme call in the sheriff 
Error LED is lighting up as something wrong with boot
I5 10400F 10th gen
I wish vintage was here 
so its probably drive related?
or have you narrowed it down yet
He has a gpu I’m pretty sure
bro is so confusing with his specs
Yeah wtf
he hasnt really said anything about it besides his mobo
@plain grove what are your specs bro
I don’t think so because a boot drive wouldn’t really cause a no post
Cpu gpu mobo ram
its hard to tell what he has if he's never said what he's got
I’m thinking his board is bricked
If he’s using a 10400f with no gpu then that would be why there is no post lol
No bios whatsoever
It won't post without a GPU of some kind
oh
please tell me this isn't the case
that would be-
Error LED supposedly is lighting up boot
funny
I really hope not lol
If that’s the case I’m leaving the discord
@plain grove do you have a gpu in your computer
Yeah still not turning on
Please say yes
Nope

THATS WHY
bro
the moment I said this I was thinking "no dgpu no igp...no dgpu no igp..."
Bro
you dont have an igpu
you have no gpu
No
You need a gpu to display

lmao
go buy a gt 710
lmao
Refund your 10400f and get a 10400 if you wanna use integrated that bad lol
dont ever tell someone this
I’m so done with everything
^^
ok I will
at the very least, tell them to get a 1030
go buy a gt 710 
This mans just had his day ruined lol
oh my god
cause you dont have a gpu
you literallydo not have a gpu
So what do I do?
whats your issue?
no post?
You need a gpu or return the 10400f for a 10400
either return your 10400f and get a 10400 non F or get a gpu
I thought I didn’t need one
10400f doesnt have an igpu
stuck in bios?
you thought wrong :)
I was about to ask that lmfao
3070 that worked in a previous build
I have a friend that has a gpu I can borrow but it’s trash
Cole I’m trusting you with this, I ain’t dealing with another person today
Better than nothing
literally
better than no post
better than nothing
lmao
this is a bad idea
No post
GeForce gtx 650
Have fun!
It doesn’t matter you just need any gpu
is betterr than nothing
The lights are on
Alright brb I have to run to his house real quick
But it just wont post
Lol
And maybe load google
I did
take a pic
unplug from wall
take out cmos battery
press power button a few times for fun
wait 5 minutes
put battery back in and replug into wall
Heave you updated your mobo to support the 5000 series @fleet pagoda
aha
I tried updating bios
i've never gotten to help anyone here yet
someone always gets it before I do
:(
must be speedy
i will sit here
or be up late at weird hours
every waking hour
there's often just unanswered questions around
to assist someone without a gpu trying to post 
Im gonna call it a night ive been working on this thing for like 10 hours
then sleep and deal with it tomorrow
@fleet pagoda Tomorrow, remember to give parts list and take a picture of the build and list what you've tried.
Someone told me its probably a doa mobo what do u think everything lights up but the fans spin for 5 secs then stop and it wont post
Okay
sleep is good
I alr updated it
Did you do it with a usb?
Yes
won't work if they can't boot lol
flashback is good yes
I thought he said he can enter bios lol?
article is bad
No i updated bios
actully forget about gt 710
Oof
get a quadro 600
did you do flashback?
can i beat you now?
if you did, did you remember to rename the file?
no cause I won
or for asus use the renaming tool?
😎
@lyric thistle loooking kinda expensive for my taste
i know its a bit stupid but you've double checked that everything is fully plugged in right?
pretty sure those will still use iGP btw
this
not a quadro 600 tho
they literally are display adapters


