#building-and-recc-chat

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sand falcon
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Interesting. Links?

potent portal
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Performs better at what? Noise normalized or max speed?

sand falcon
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Or delta t normalized noises?

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I wish that was measured more often

earnest olive
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when are the squad at userbenchmark gonna start benching coolers šŸ˜³

winged lion
earnest olive
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immediately hit by what looks like a paywall but i can't read it

winged lion
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just switch language

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dont you have that option in chrome/safari

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https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/73709023

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earnest olive
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i don't use either of those

winged lion
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oh sorry

sand falcon
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Not a fan of how they're presenting the data

earnest olive
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okay i will

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just so i can read this review

sand falcon
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Interpolation off of three points is sketchy

sand falcon
earnest olive
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smh

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i already signed up for german classes

sand falcon
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Oh no

earnest olive
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you can't stop me

sand falcon
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Eh, it'll make it easier to read Igor's stuff

winged lion
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igors lab translations aren't horrible either

earnest olive
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the only language i need to speak is the language of userbenchmark

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igor translations are

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not great

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hard to follow sometimes

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but readable

winged lion
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I take readable

winged lion
sand falcon
winged lion
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currently taking latin for reasons unkown

winged lion
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mrboblasershark I must know

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who is that in your pfp

sand falcon
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Latin is the best language to learn, since the chances of you ever needing to use your knowledge in conversation is tiny

winged lion
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lol

sand falcon
winged lion
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nice is he famous

sand falcon
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He killed some people

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Got the Congressional medal of honor

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Normal life stuff

winged lion
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gg

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what level was he when he died

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I'm only like level 40 rn

sand falcon
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Good question

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Coxswain

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I think that's level 72?

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Idk

jagged ember
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Bobs trying to tell you he killed some dudes and has a medal of honor

winged lion
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k

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I do too

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except in titanfall 2

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actually i probably have more kills than bob

jagged ember
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Rip TF2 servers rn

peak ginkgo
clever eagle
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wait is tf2
titanfall 2 or team fortress 2

ancient crown
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It's actually turtle frenzy 2

clever eagle
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lol

alpine rain
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@peak ginkgo 1200-1500 but im trying to keep it as close to the 1200 mark

wispy matrix
alpine rain
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just gaming really, but I'm looking for AMD GPU and CPU because its software can actually interact with CSGO

vague oracle
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Wut?

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Both AMD and Nvidia software will work perfectly fine

wispy matrix
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^

vague oracle
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If you really want an AMD gpu youā€™re going to have to pay more than a Nvidia gpu most of the time unless you buy from AMD Direct

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AIB prices are horrible

alpine rain
vague oracle
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When was that?

alpine rain
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right when trusted mode launched for CSGO, 7/23/2020

wispy matrix
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also what games would you wanna play on this rig aswell

alpine rain
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CS:GO, Overwatch, GTAV and Minecraft with decent shaders

vague oracle
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Any streaming?

alpine rain
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Yeah ill probably find some 60 fps 1080p capture card because CSGO trusted mode blocks OBS game capture.

vague oracle
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So you have another PC to encode?

alpine rain
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I could use the one I'm using right now.

vague oracle
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Ok then yeah and AMD gpu should be fine

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Easier to find but more expensive

obtuse compass
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How would you guys rate an i5 10400f + 3060 combo?

vague oracle
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Solid depending on the price

obsidian wigeon
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Price?

obtuse compass
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1200 on newegg

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16gb ram, 512gb

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I feel I wouldnā€™t find anything better right now with the same price

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But like I wanted to know out of 1-10 the build quality

potent portal
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That's not too bad for a whole PC right now, what brand? A link would help

obsidian wigeon
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not bad

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yeah what brand?

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those specs looks like abs tbh

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if it's abs go on ahead

vague oracle
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Or Skytech

potent portal
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That's what I was thinking too, ABS is generally good

obsidian wigeon
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skytech is also decent

potent portal
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Skytech costs a lot more

obsidian wigeon
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but skytech costs more for those specs

obtuse compass
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Ill send link rn

obsidian wigeon
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i know it's abs, likely

vague oracle
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Yeah Skytech costs more

obsidian wigeon
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i see 10400/11400+3060 for 1.2k all the time

obtuse compass
obsidian wigeon
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yap

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go for it

potent portal
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I recommend skytech to people looking for $2k+ prebuilt, good quality

obtuse compass
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I was thinking about a cpu upgrade shortly cuz I know it aint the best

obsidian wigeon
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it's fine in itself

potent portal
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You might need to pop that front panel if it gets hot but as it is shouldn't be too bad

obsidian wigeon
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10400 won't get hot enough to be a worry lel

potent portal
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Right, but if it gets upgraded...

potent portal
obtuse compass
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An upgrade and a better cooler you guys would suggest?

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When I decide to upgrade that is

obtuse compass
potent portal
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Only thing I'd upgrade is the memory, everything else is probably fine. ABS uses off the shelf parts so no issues with part quality in general.

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3000 is ok but the latency is probably high

obsidian wigeon
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Upgrade for cpu, mhmm.. well I wouldn't do it much tbh

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By the time you'll need upgrade you probably have to go for something newer

potent portal
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Yep. Unless you play a lot of CS:GO and need 500 fps so you can stay in the top 0.001% and get scouted, 10400 will do for a few years at least.

wispy matrix
desert gulch
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Change ssd

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Even p31 is cheaper rn lmao

wispy matrix
desert gulch
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You made that list?

potent portal
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If Bear is trying to do a 1200-1500 build that's completely the wrong approach

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$400 for a motherboard? No way is that needed

vague oracle
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There is absolutely no reason to be putting a Crosshair VIII Hero in it

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And thatā€™s coming from someone who is a Crosshair Shill

earnest olive
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beast isn't very good at part lists

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seen him recommend ryzen 5 2600 for over $200 before

wispy matrix
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i did?

earnest olive
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oh yeah and a $638 1660 super

wispy matrix
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i think i grabbed the wrong build

earnest olive
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found it

vague oracle
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Rip 4000d airflow price went up

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Lancool II Mesh looking more appealing now

wispy matrix
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also that def wasnt my build

wispy matrix
vague oracle
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Thats the build you put a $200 2600 in

earnest olive
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def was

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putting a crosshair dark hero in a 1200 build is probably worse though

potent portal
vague oracle
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1/4th of the budget is going to the mobo

wispy matrix
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@earnest olive i dont remember putting the build together tbh

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the dark hero one

earnest olive
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3060ti for 600 is optimistic

vague oracle
potent portal
wispy matrix
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oh i see why

earnest olive
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but possible if you get it from BB/EVGA queue/zotac queue

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the ones in shuffle are usually above 600 now I think

potent portal
wispy matrix
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@earnest olive look at the link name

unknown.png
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thats why it showed the dark hero

earnest olive
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?

wispy matrix
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same link different list

potent portal
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Oh the "k" at the end got deleted

wispy matrix
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oh im stupid i deleted the k

potent portal
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Lol that explains it

wispy matrix
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thats better.

earnest olive
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still not great

potent portal
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Much better than it was though PepeLaugh

earnest olive
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very bad choice of ssd

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95 is a bit much for a 4000d airflow

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5600x on stock cooler is a big no

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mobo ram psu are fine

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5700xt recommendation seems random

potent portal
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Those are like solid gold to miners right now, way inflated price

vague oracle
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Iā€™d go for a Lancool II Mesh if youā€™re in the ~100 range

earnest olive
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absolutely

potent portal
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P400A digital is $90

earnest olive
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both are better options

vague oracle
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Personally Iā€™m just not a fan of the side panel mounting

wispy matrix
vague oracle
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But itā€™s personal preference which one

earnest olive
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4000d airflow is great when it's $70 not $95

vague oracle
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Or $5 kekw

wispy matrix
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but then the price is for gpus are overpriced

earnest olive
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alec

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show me where the $5 4000d airflows are

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I'll buy 500

vague oracle
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There was a mistake at Walmart and it was being sold for $5

earnest olive
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did they actually ship?

vague oracle
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Yeah

earnest olive
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BRUH

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why didn't i get in on this

wispy matrix
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i found one cheaper...

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vague oracle
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I found it from someone here

earnest olive
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4000d non airflow

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yikes

wispy matrix
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yeah

vague oracle
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Thatā€™s the regular 4000d

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4000d<4000x<4000d airflow

wispy matrix
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ill just let you do the list because im dumb

earnest olive
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my legs feel amazing now

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put some chinese herbal medicine on them and then a cup of boiling water

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bug bites not itching anymore

little osprey
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can anyone identify the case

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it looks lik black h510

vague oracle
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Thatā€™s a black H510

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Real question is why are you digging around in a PSU?

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Iā€™m really hoping you discharged the caps

jovial radish
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it bothers me that in my build you can see the fan cables a bit

potent portal
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Then use zip ties and/or get a better case for cable management

jovial radish
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yeah

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they're tied and all

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but the case isn't the best

obsidian wigeon
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tfw my prebuilt has no cable ties for the case fan

jovial radish
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lol

obsidian wigeon
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literally the cable bundled in itself

jovial radish
obsidian wigeon
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it looks ugly but it works

little osprey
vague oracle
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Your friend is or youā€™re digging in your friends PSU

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?

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Canā€™t have you killing yourself because of a PSU

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Imagine ā€œteenage boy gets killed by computerā€™s power supplyā€

jovial radish
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yeah opening a PSU isn't a great idea

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unless your job is repairing them I guess

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she's very bare bones, but she gets the job done

clever eagle
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hi

vague oracle
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Iā€™ve opened up PSUs to replace caps and itā€™s not something 95% of people should be doing

potent portal
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Only caps I've ever successfully replaced were giant ones in a TV. The stock ones were too low power, and it started acting up just outside the recall window.

wheat coral
potent portal
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Yeah these shouldn't be too hard to replace then right?

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Phone caps suuuuuck

wheat coral
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not uhh

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caps that are a few mm

potent portal
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You'd need the right tools to do something like that for sure. Microsolder kit, magnifying lens, hot plate, the works.

frank stirrup
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Buying rn

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
dapper cedar
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Hello guys! First time poster here with a question that's been really bugging me.Ā 
I am thinking about purchasing a Silent Base 802 from Be Quiet and building an inverted build. For reasons of space I can only have my build on my left hand side and would really like a window so I can look into it.

My build consists of a 5900x aircooled by a Noctua NH-D15 and a 3070ti Suprim from MSI. (rest of the parts are irelevant)

In the inverted setup, should I add a couple of fans as intake to the top of the case? Considering it has a filter and the normally back exaust is now near the bottom, would the additional airflow help with gpu temps?

A top mounted exausted is traditional but I feel it would suck the air from the gpu (since it is a tripleĀ slot card) and would like to avoid suffocating it.

What do you guys think?

clever eagle
fossil cedar
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And are you just going to put the back of the case facing away from your wall instead of he back facing the wall

dapper cedar
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@fossil cedar The PC is already built for the most part. I've had the existing case for a few years now and I want to upgrade it so I can show off the build. Because of the way it will be placed on the desk and because of the lack of space the Silent Base 802 is the best option I have for inverting it. Hence the question about top intakes

clever eagle
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this seem good?

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frank stirrup
clever eagle
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i know

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
clever eagle
fossil cedar
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Ahh okay

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Well it's not great board anyway I'd still change

clever eagle
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what should i change to

fossil cedar
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Depends on the options, can you just link the pcpp list

clever eagle
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my friend said he wants a 3060 and kraken x63

fossil cedar
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Why

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6700xt is better

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And nzxt i shouldn't have to explain

clever eagle
dapper cedar
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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is it a whack case?

fossil cedar
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Inverted

frank stirrup
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yep whack

fossil cedar
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They want it that way

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So they can see pc

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Cuz only fit pc on the left of desk

frank stirrup
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confusion

fossil cedar
dapper cedar
frank stirrup
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remember hot air rises

fossil cedar
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Should be alright yeah

frank stirrup
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cold air does not

dapper cedar
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yes but you have a fan trying to suck air one direction, while another fan will suck it in another direction

frank stirrup
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nah

dapper cedar
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wouldn't that create turbulence?

frank stirrup
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turbulence?

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Not really

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having air coming in from the front and exaust back is better

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
clever eagle
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uh huh

fossil cedar
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Better gpu, just as good cpu, nice motherboard n stuffs

inland parrot
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So should i upgarde my psu from 650w to 1000 watts for the future gpus and cpus. Right now i have 650 watts psu

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frank stirrup
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no point in an unecessary "upgrade"

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next time you need a new psu, get a bigger one than you need

fossil cedar
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Should only upgrade the psu if you need a bigger psu, unless you have an el cheapo psu

inland parrot
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K

stoic island
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grab bigger psu only if you need it

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no reason to pre-emptive future needs if products get better over time

inland parrot
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I am getting a 6800xt so i will need either 750 or 850watts

lucid burrow
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hello

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have i come to the right place to ask about pcs

inland parrot
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Yeah you have come to the right place

potent plinth
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Eyyy

lucid burrow
potent plinth
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I need to upgrade my monitor, so I found one Aoc 24G2U

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Is it good for gaming and media stuff

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144hz, 24", 1080p, ips 1ms

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Around 200ā‚¬

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent plinth
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Nope

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There is not

lucid burrow
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so i am getting a pc in 2 days :D

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unfortunately im pretty sure we're all aware of the gpu crisis

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and im settling for an R9 280X paired with an 11th gen i5 but i kind wanna save a lil bit of money and idk what to downgrade

potent plinth
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I bought my pc month before crisis but I was stupid so I said: I will use my RX 550 for like 1-2 months and then upgrade to rx 580 or something

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Yeahh... Still using it

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I could have bought new rx 580 8gb for 100ā‚¬ back then

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Now its 300-400euros here

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Used

lucid burrow
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same lol

potent plinth
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Who knowes if the prices are ever gonna get down

lucid burrow
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at this point , we leave it to god šŸ˜”

vague oracle
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Not for a while

potent plinth
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At this point Imma buy monitor in like 10 days and then save up like 500ā‚¬ for 3060 and thats it

vague oracle
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2023-2024 predictions say

lucid burrow
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wow

potent plinth
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Bottleneck but its alright

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I have r5 1600af

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And rx 550, which is ok

vague oracle
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Bottlenecks arenā€™t really something to worry about

potent plinth
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I play new games rarely, they are kinda boring

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I am currently playing Call of Juanez: gun slinger šŸ˜Ž

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It has such a good story I cant hahaha

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A drunk man at a bar making up story as I play and stuff is good for me tbh, also for an old game graphic is amazing, bullets whizzing..

Still I wanna buy like rx 580 8GB

sullen terrace
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should i go for amd ryzen 5 4600h or intel core i5 10th gen

formal girder
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Budget?

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Also are you looking at laptops?

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Or looking to build a desktop

sullen terrace
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for laptops

sullen terrace
formal girder
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Currency?

sullen terrace
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lemme be specific

4th Gen AMD Ryzen 5 4600H | Speed: 3.0 GHz (Base) - 4.0 GHz (Max) | 6 Cores | 3MB L2 & 8MB L3 Cache

vs

10th Gen Intel Core i5 10300H | Speed: 2.5 GHz (Base) - 4.5 GHz (Max) | 4 Cores | 8MB Cache

which one is better

formal girder
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Amd Ryzen 5 4600h

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More cores and threads

sullen terrace
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performace wise?

formal girder
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Better clocks faster ram speeds and its 1.8x faster than the 10300h

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And 2MB l2 than the 10300H

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So in conclusion go with Amd Ryzen 5 4600H cpu

sullen terrace
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alright, tysm

formal girder
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The Amd cpu also has F16C which is used to speed up tasks such as adjusting the contrast of an image or adjusting volume

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Idk how much more help that would be but an extra pointer to help ya

stoic island
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P sure f16c is just kinda a part of x86 or something like that

formal girder
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Probably

little osprey
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@sand falcon my friends wondering what pc he could get for $1500

normal oyster
little osprey
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Cool I was just wondering a 1500 pc if there was no pc price problems

vague oracle
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5800x and 3080 easily

winged lion
vague oracle
winged lion
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oh ok yea 3080

celest horizon
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A 3090 is a steal at 1.5k in the current market

vague oracle
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^

obsidian wigeon
vague oracle
obsidian wigeon
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lmao

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cause when 3060ti was out

normal oyster
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down the line i will probably upgrade

obsidian wigeon
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5600x sure exists

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and by then 3600 has gotten expensive

normal oyster
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but for now seemed like the best option

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and my budget was technically only 1000

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but ended up somewhere near 1200

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so was over budget

winged lion
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you should have gone 10400(f)/11400(f) instead of 3600

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3600 rose in price

obsidian wigeon
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5600x best value atm for 6c/12t atm tbh in the us

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11400 costs like 260 rn

winged lion
obsidian wigeon
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11400F is about 280, yikes

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10400 isn't that great tbh

winged lion
obsidian wigeon
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i know what 5600x costs

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but 10400 is led by it by a big margin

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i would be willing to spend 100 more for 5600x myself

winged lion
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it all depends on what games they play really

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bc not all scenarios the lead is even noticBle

obsidian wigeon
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not noticeable?

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max fps sure

frank stirrup
obsidian wigeon
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but 0.1% lows

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it leads by a big gap

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that's what dictates the smoothness

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just take 3600 for reference

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10400 performs like it

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and 5600x

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of course leads 3600 by a good margin

little osprey
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5600x is nice cpu but 11400 performs awesome on games Intel

obsidian wigeon
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but 11400 costs more than 5600x atm

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it's sad

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it used to be 184

little osprey
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That's why its not in stocks lol

obsidian wigeon
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it's in stock

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price is just high

winged lion
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well it used to be like 180~

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which was awesome

obsidian wigeon
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yes

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used

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not now

little osprey
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Yeah my friend got it for 190 +100$ mobo and I really impressed about it's performance lol . Almost good as my 10700k

winged lion
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but now they have stock issues

obsidian wigeon
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even 11600k costs the same

little osprey
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Antonline have nice 5600x and 5800x deals on ebay btw

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260$ for 5600x and 350$ for 5800x

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And 10600ka is for 190$ on newegg too which is pretty similar to 11400

uncut pelican
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Got a 3060 ti for 500 bucks

winged lion
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wow gg

little osprey
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That's great deal

obsidian wigeon
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nice

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a steal these days

winged lion
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whiixh model?

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*which

uncut pelican
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Xc gaming

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Evga

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Not sure what I'll do with it tho

little osprey
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Yeah evga have nice price

uncut pelican
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Might build a rig

idle nimbus
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my friend is asking if he should get an amd apu for his build?

obsidian wigeon
idle nimbus
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1-1.2k

obsidian wigeon
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mhm, nah

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if it's the us

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i just suggest looking at newegg for abs prebuilts

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they do have ones that fits the budget atm

idle nimbus
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alr

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ty

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is this good?

obsidian wigeon
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link?

idle nimbus
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lemme send

obsidian wigeon
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eh

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it has a 1660s

idle nimbus
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oh ok, cuz i asked pato and he said its good

obsidian wigeon
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get this

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yeah but this one's in stock too

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has a 2060

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wait nah go with this

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just spotted it, mb

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literally same price

idle nimbus
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o send

obsidian wigeon
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specs too

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but has 3060

idle nimbus
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how much fps in mineraft?

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and is it good for studying, etc?

obsidian wigeon
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i don't think it's a worry at all

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it'll do anything you throw at it fine

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at like 1080p

idle nimbus
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alr, is it better than a 1660 super with ryzen 5 3600?

obsidian wigeon
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yeah

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a lot

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on the gpu side that is, cpu is equal

idle nimbus
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oh, does it have good reviews?

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i couldnt find any benchmarks, could u find me some please?

obsidian wigeon
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they make nice stuff

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so i wouldn't worry

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don't see much issues with shipping

idle nimbus
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ok ty

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yeah i might get it, if it goes a bit cheaper during black friday

elfin flame
idle nimbus
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yse

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wont it overheat though @obsidian wigeon ?

obsidian wigeon
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nope

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it won't

idle nimbus
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wont it be a bottleneck though

obsidian wigeon
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10400 won't run hot enough to be a concern even on that cooler

idle nimbus
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oh

obsidian wigeon
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nope, it's a decent combo lel

idle nimbus
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alr lol ty

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is this good?

obsidian wigeon
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yes

idle nimbus
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alr thank u guys

obsidian wigeon
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^

idle nimbus
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alr ty

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yeah ok ima get the pc and the monitor

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ty guys so much

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also if it doesnt work, ill have the opportunity to return it am i right?

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like the pc

obsidian wigeon
#

yeah

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just contact newegg for rma

idle nimbus
#

alr ty

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alr

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yeah ill get the msi monitor and that px

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ty guys

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:D

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and the reviews are insane

#

only 2 bad reviews so far

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alr ty

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wait how much do u think it'll be during black friday

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wow ok thats pretty good

#

ty

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tru

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at least there is honey

#

xd

#

Overall Review: Where to begin it started out ok for the first month. Conveniently just after the 30 day return policy I noticed the GPU fan making an unusually loud noise and I thought ok maybe it will work itself out maybe turning up the fans would help nope never went away. Had to ship it back to ABS after 3 or 4 different reps had me trying a bunch of unnecessary things. Took over 3 weeks to get a new GPU which several times their customer service left me in the dark not replying to emails about what was going on and finally I had to get 2 "managers" to sign off on a graphics card replacement which they told me they would hook me up with a Asus 3 fan which when the replacement arrived it was the same Zotac 2 fan that originally was in there. Oh and their "reasoning" for taking so long to replace my gpu was that they switched warehouses and lost my replacement order.. yeah ok. Plugged the new one and fans are quiet everything seems to be working fine going on a month now with the replacement and everything's working normally and then these last couple days I'm getting blue screen crashes and now I can't even boot up to the main screen now just goes to troubleshooting. I'm not even going to bother calling them again so they can give me the workaround STAY FAR AWAY FROM THIS PC AND COMPANY!!!!!!!

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this is one of the reviews though

#

are u sure this is a good pc?

#

70% is like positive

#

yeah u have a point

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and i have return policy on my hand if anything goes wrong

#

or customer service

#

alr yeah ill go for this one

#

but do u know how much fps it gets on minecraft?

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since im a minecraft gamer and i wanna know how much

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since my current laptop gets around 100 fps and i want to upgrade from it

#

oh

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if u play minecraft do u know how much fps ni it?

#

lol tru

#

but do u think it'll be great in minecraft?

#

i just need something which'll be very smooth for minecraft and can handle ray tracing

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its a 3060

#

low?

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possibly 600?

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cuz i saw benchmarks of 1660 super with ryzen 5 3600 and it got over 1k

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fps

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oh ok

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if u find any like low setting minecraft benchmarks please send to me

#

once again, ty very much

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yeah

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judging by what u and foxy said i think this'll run great in video games

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ty so much

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its alr

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ty though so much

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oh lol

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ty

#

have a nice day

tawny violet
#

@elfin flame I thought the 3080Ti isn't worth it?

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Unless I missed something

#

it's also unobtainium here tbf

charred quail
#

Freind of mine wants to build a 1080p gaming budget pc that can run all the games but also be kinda budget

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

ALL the games?

frank stirrup
#

cyberpunk and maplestory enter chat

earnest olive
#

running fs2020 at 1080p60 takes an rtx 3070 Sip

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lol, even a 3090 won't guarantee above 60 fps in maplestory

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unironically

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that game is so poorly optimized

tawny violet
earnest olive
#

played it on 1080ti and saw drops below 30 in 24-man raids

tawny violet
#

Cuz the Chinese crackdown is nicely killing crypto

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
#

lmfao

#

no

charred quail
#

Hahha

earnest olive
#

you know what happened when china banned mining?

tawny violet
#

I mean the Chinese gov banned mining farms
Just straight up

charred quail
#

I mean GTA war zone I geuss

earnest olive
#

chinese miners moved to other countries

#

crazy idea right

tawny violet
#

Anyhow

#

Back to the original thing

frank stirrup
#

the mining limiter on the 3080ti is a problem

#

lol

tawny violet
#

What is a 3080Ti worth for?

frank stirrup
#

also its as good as a 3090 at gaming

earnest olive
#

i wonder why the network hashrate only tanked for about a week before recovering

frank stirrup
#

great for 4k gaming

tawny violet
#

Ya don't really need anything more than a 3060 for anything less than 4k
And a 3070 can do 4k with DLSS afaik

earnest olive
frank stirrup
#

or high refresh rate gaming

earnest olive
#

lmao

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my 3080 is too weak for 1440p in some games

frank stirrup
charred quail
#

My 1080 can play minecraft at 4k

earnest olive
#

now turn on rtx

frank stirrup
charred quail
#

Bruh

#

Saw the footage

earnest olive
#

when i was trying to push as high of an fps number as possible

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lmao

frank stirrup
charred quail
#

4k rtx minecraft is jank even on a 3080

earnest olive
#

my 3080 was handling minecraft rtx pretty well at 1440p

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but it was being pushed to 100% tdp

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to deliver 160-180 fps

charred quail
#

Oofda

tawny violet
# frank stirrup source?

You can just
Turn down quality a slight bit (which you wouldn't even notice most of the time) and get stable 60fps

earnest olive
#

never thought i'd watch minecraft push 370 watts out of my gpu

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not everyone is willing to settle for 60 fps

#

i'm not

frank stirrup
tawny violet
#

Sure it won't be PCMR levels
But it'll still look incredible and you didn't spend 1.5 kidneys for the experience

earnest olive
#

also even if we're targetting 60 fps the 3060 won't push 1440p60 in everything

dense mica
#

Should I get the 4tb Samsung QVO ssd or the 4tb EVO ssd for $200 more? Is there much difference beside write speed?

tawny violet
#

If you don't do AI stuff or some high-level content creation
You don't really need a 3080
And the 3090 is just for those that absolutely, positively want to have a PC more expensive than an actual car

earnest olive
#

hello to you too roger

frank stirrup
#

lol

earnest olive
tawny violet
#

Turn down quality a bit

earnest olive
#

i have a 3080 and trust me this thing isn't as powerful as you think it is

tawny violet
#

Not like you can tell if it's maxed out or not

frank stirrup
#

toy cars?

earnest olive
#

watching it hit 80 fps in valhalla with settings turned down Sip

tawny violet
#

Uhm
The 3090 alone is like 2500 here

frank stirrup
tawny violet
#

And you didn't buy anything else
Just the GPU

frank stirrup
#

I can

earnest olive
#

my entire 5800x 3080 build was under 2k

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i don't think it's overkill

tawny violet
#

Oooh
We have those people ladies and gents

frank stirrup
tawny violet
#

Hah
HAHAHAHAHA

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Where do you live?

frank stirrup
#

if you try for long enough

earnest olive
#

ive bought multiple 3070s at msrp and given them to friends

tawny violet
#

Cuz here
You can't even get scalped ones

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

wherever you live, the situation for @frank stirrup is probably worse lol

tawny violet
earnest olive
frank stirrup
tawny violet
#

I'm genuinely curious where I have to go to find graphics cards

earnest olive
#

96 layer TLC with dram and 3500/3000 sequential speeds

#

very cheap for 4TB

frank stirrup
tawny violet
#

I can tell you
There ain't no 30-series here

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Not even scalped ones

#

So yeah

earnest olive
#

he lives in one of the worst countries for finding cards

frank stirrup
#

sus

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very sus

tawny violet
#

It's a 3 month backorder

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

at least you have the best food on the planet right outside

tawny violet
#

If you're bribing the right people maybe

earnest olive
frank stirrup
tawny violet
#

Fair 'nuff

frank stirrup
#

are you ok

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like mentally alright

covert vapor
frank stirrup
#

im concerned

frank stirrup
#

also im not illiterate to not know what backordering is

covert vapor
#

Duration of a backorder doesn't change the fact that it isn't in stock for that duration

frank stirrup
#

3 month backorder much better than what most people can get

#

3 months very reasonable imo

#

if I want a card at msrp I have to wait 3-4 years after it releases

#

and thats without factoring in the gpu shortage

covert vapor
#

Reasonable or not, the beef was with the guy saying they aren't available. If a card is on backorder it isn't available

frank stirrup
#

lmfao

earnest olive
#

i'll mail you a 3070 at msrp

#

still have 2 left

frank stirrup
#

available to someone who was 3 months quicker rn

#

so it is available

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just not to him

#

lol

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

lmao i don't even want to think about how much that would cost to ship

frank stirrup
#

like quite literally last year before gpu stock shortages I bought my RX570

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it was at 170$

earnest olive
#

i shipped an rx 470 to my friend in canada right above me

frank stirrup
#

which is msrp for it

earnest olive
#

$43.55 USD shipping and then she has to pay another $25 CAD import tax to pick it up lmao

#

for a 1 kg package

#

thats just an envelope wrapped around graphics card box

#

absolutely gouging

#

to ship a card all the way to you that's heavier and has a 5x higher insurance value

#

shipping would be more than 100 usd i'm sure lol

frank stirrup
#

oh more

#

and then taxes

#

itll be a nightmare

earnest olive
#

paying the entire 3070 msrp just to ship it over KEKW

frank stirrup
#

and then have it broken because people here move parcels MAD

#

like quite literally

#

toss it in the back

#

and yes I mean TOSS

earnest olive
#

lol i received a case from amazon that looked like they played soccer with it

#

the box that is

#

the case looked fine on the outside so i was like ok maybe this is fine

#

did the full build

#

worked fine

#

and then i realized

#

the front audio was severed

#

had to redo the whole build

#

still mad about that one

#

that was part of the build that was so bad it made me quit pc building for like 4 months

frank stirrup
#

the loading line for delivery vans sometimes consists of one person handing another dude parcels one at a time and the 2nd dude yeeting em in the back of the delivery van

#

I have deadass seen this

earnest olive
frank stirrup
#

It hurt me inside

#

I kinda wanna pick up a second monitor but just bought a phone so no moneys

#

hmm new monitor or save for new gpu

earnest olive
#

use phone as second monitor šŸ˜³

wheat coral
#

use chopstick as gpu bracket

frank stirrup
wheat coral
#

AMD Link

frank stirrup
#

thats just mirror monitor tho right?

wheat coral
#

if you just need FPS/Tempand other stuff monitor

wheat coral
#

i was talking the other amd link thing where you can monitor temps from phone

#

and FPS

earnest olive
#

https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/use-your-android-device-as-second-monitor-for-your-windows-pc-0175646/

Gadget Hacks
Use Your Android Device as a Second Monitor for Your Windows PC

If you need to do some hardcore multitasking on your Windows PC, a second monitor can go a long way towards getting things done. If you opt to "extend" your Windows desktop across a dual monitor setup, it's as if you have two computers side by side, with each display getting its own set of windows and programs that can be open simultaneously.

#

nah you can legit just use it as a second display lol

#

not even mirrored

#

a bit small but it'll do the job for discord/spotify during gaming

frank stirrup
wheat coral
earnest olive
#

could set discord zoom high

#

and embeds off

#

even if you can only see like 5 messages on screen at once it's usable

wheat coral
#

then you have like weird boundries with the text and stuff once you set it too much

earnest olive
#

well it's worth a try

wheat coral
#

if you could adjust the side panels of discord it'd be fine

#

once zoomed in they take like a 1/3 of your scareen

earnest olive
#

i meant chat font scaling

#

increases chat size without changing the side panels

wheat coral
#

900 series prioritise temp limit or power limit

#

works really well

little osprey
#

Uhh guys I was playing on my computer and I hit a side of it and now the keyboard or power button doesnā€™t work

frank stirrup
#

Hmmmmm

undone osprey
#

can someone help me my 3070 ti isnā€™t booting up

#

I tried with a 3060ti and it worked fine

#

I also updated bios to latest version

#

If it helps the vga light is on

#

while when running the 3060ti it wasnā€™t

earnest olive
#

did you

  1. run DDU before uninstalling the 3060ti to purge drivers
  2. try clearing cmos as well before installing the 3070ti
white depot
#

shall i go for the i5 10400f i3 10100f or i9 9900k

vague oracle
#

10400F

white depot
#

reason?

#

cuz i3 sells for like 85 and im nota gona like stream or anythin

vague oracle
#

9900k isnā€™t good value

#

10400F is just a very solid CPU all around

white depot
#

i also found a 1660 for 370 eurosšŸ’€

vague oracle
#

Jeez thatā€™s also overpriced

white depot
#

amazon :(

#

my laptop got fried and if i dont get a device till next month im afraid ill fail school šŸ’€

#

WHAT

#

edits broken

#

my sentence dont makr sense

idle nimbus
#

juts for a bit

#

till u get one

#

or try and borrow one from a friend

#

i recommend renting one for no

#

w

#

*now

fossil cedar
white depot
white depot
#

ill go for designin

fossil cedar
#

Then get a 10400

white depot
#

all.i got ots like 600 euros

#

its

idle nimbus
#

just get a chromebook for now

#

and then later once everything is settled get a pc or laptop

wheat coral
#

oop

#

wrong chat

lyric thistle
#

oop

#

wrong chat

idle nimbus
#

oop

#

correct chat

jovial galleon
#

yo so im gonna be transferring my nvme ssd to another mobo, is there anything i should do/know before just swapping it and putting it into my other board?

#

like is windows gonna break if i do tht?

inland parrot
#

Will the 5600x bottnexk the 5700xt

lyric thistle
#

no

inland parrot
#

K

#

Just asking

fossil cedar
vale epoch
#

What the duck lenovo!!!!!

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little osprey
#

Damn

grizzled verge
#

hey guys

#

there's a delay when I open my pc

#

I click the button and nothing happens then it turns on after a few seconds

lyric thistle
#

power cycling

little osprey
#

And I wonder why it's pcie instead NVme šŸ¤”

wheat coral
lyric thistle
#

same thing for the purposes of this

little osprey
#

Umm idk it can be really pcie ssd too lol

wheat coral
#

and pcie ssd ios more than likely gonna be pcie to m.2

#

esp for only 650$ lmao

#

there is SSDS that are straight up PCIE

#

but NVME is PCIE

little osprey
#

There was pcie ssd around for awhile but nvme beat it lol

lyric thistle
#

there still are add in card ssds

wheat coral
#

wha?

wheat coral
#

i plan on using one soon lol

lyric thistle
#

šŸ‘€

wheat coral
#

or ill be boring and just use m.2 to pcie adapter

#

cause moners

lyric thistle
#

yeah moners

wheat coral
#

board no m.2

#

but does support pcie booting

little osprey
#

Nvme uses pcie line but it's storage protocol but pcie ssds are not

#

I don't think there's actual pcie ssds in market anymore lol

wheat coral
#

not for consumers

desert gulch
#

Become an oem

#

And get actual pcie ssds

#

Become floppa PCs

little osprey
#

Lol

desert gulch
#

Project honey badger would be cool

#

It'd boot into stuff at a decent enough speed

celest horizon
#

pcie x4 m.2 risers are great

little osprey
#

Oh btw any expected date and details about 12th gen ? šŸ¤”

desert gulch
#

I know pricing and release dates lol

#

Of all the cpus

wheat coral
desert gulch
#

But it's from someone under nda so I can't tell you everything

little osprey
#

Lol

desert gulch
#

Otherwise I'd leak it

lyric thistle
#

disclosure agreement thinkies

desert gulch
#

Ye

little osprey
#

I wonder we will have ddr5 ram shortage as well

lyric thistle
#

šŸ“°

desert gulch
#

Hopefully

lyric thistle
#

sign here

#

to disclose

desert gulch
#

Yes

desert gulch
little osprey
#

I waiting for 12th gen to upgrade my poor 10700k uh

desert gulch
#

I'm trying to figure out how much I can leak to you guys lol

wheat coral
desert gulch
#

Yeah same

little osprey
#

Will 12700k be similar price as 11700k or something lol

desert gulch
#

I can't tell you anything about that

#

Legally

little osprey
#

Lol alright at least what socket will they have

wheat coral
#

1700

little osprey
#

I heard lga1700 or something

wheat coral
#

AMD is 1718 or 1716

desert gulch
#

Yeh

little osprey
#

So we will need new coolers as well

desert gulch
#

I think the coolers will prolly start coming with more mounting hardware

#

Like hyper 212 and stuff

#

But I'm sure for high tier cooler they'll prolly need a whole redesign

stoic island
#

Noctua is neat

desert gulch
#

Always

stoic island
#

Noctua is in the process of updating most current multi-socket coolers to include LGA1700 mounting hardware. For some models, the updated coolers are already shipping, so customers who buy new coolers will soon receive units that include LGA1700 mounting parts.

little osprey
#

I have deepcool castle 360 white uh probably gonna need to change

desert gulch
#

I would love if noctua started making cases tbh

little osprey
#

And we need more white mobos as well

desert gulch
#

Nzxt one is super great

little osprey
#

White = more fps

desert gulch
#

Highly reccomend

little osprey
#

I have gigabyte vision one uh

wheat coral
desert gulch
#

I always hated the look of full white builds so I'm fine with no white mobos

desert gulch
wheat coral
#

idk

desert gulch
#

I think they do

little osprey
#

But couldn't find one with TB3 inputs . Only gigabyte vision z590 have it

wheat coral
#

what do you need thunderbolt for?

little osprey
#

Connect high end soundcard šŸ‘

wheat coral
#

thunderbolt is just pcie

#

lmao

#

just gert a pcie card

little osprey
#

I bought pcie tb3 converter yeah

desert gulch
#

Damn this thing is nice

#

For a white Mobo

#

MSI arctic b360

little osprey
desert gulch
#

So kind bad chipset lol

little osprey
#

That's what I need Oh_No

desert gulch
#

But decent looks for white board

little osprey
#

Why some pcie ports and other things are still black lol

#

I built nice white build but only pcie tb3 card is so ugly black

desert gulch
#

Lol

little osprey
#

I don't know if i can paint it lol

desert gulch
#

Hydro dip it

#

It would look hella cool

#

Thermals would be worse but it's be worth it

little osprey
#

I wonder if it damage it idk šŸ˜‚

desert gulch
#

Doubt it

#

If you tape everything off

little osprey
#

Bought TB3 soundcard blindly on nice deal thought it's easy to convert to usb or something but it's nightmare šŸ˜‚

desert gulch
#

Only worry with water stuff as long as you let it dry out before powering on would be rust

little osprey
#

I planning upgrade all to 12th gen when it comes out but idk if I can find white bomo and ram easily or not as well

#

Btw ddr4 rams going to history as well right ?

desert gulch
#

Kinda

#

Halfway

#

I think you can still do 12th gen with ddr4

#

Depending on mobo

wheat coral
#

yes

little osprey
#

Then pinout of ddr5 rams is same maybe šŸ¤”

wheat coral
#

no

desert gulch
#

No

wheat coral
#

it has support for ddr4 on the IMC

desert gulch
#

You'll have to get a Mobo that's ddr4 for it

#

Yeah

wheat coral
#

the pinout is very different

little osprey
#

hmm

#

hope it will be easy to find ddr5 rams lol

wheat coral
#

its gonna be expensive

#

very

desert gulch
#

Yeah

#

Early adopters fee

wheat coral
#

ddr4 wont be any cheaper either

#

more expensive actyally

little osprey
#

umm 32gb for 200$ maybe šŸ¤”

desert gulch
#

Yea

little osprey
#

if it will under 200 its still pretty nice

wheat coral
#

and its gonna be slow

little osprey
#

like ddr4 one are for 150$ for 32gb or something

#

I using regular 3200mhz with my 10700k and its pretty well

#

I dont think intel needs fancy faster rams as amd šŸ¤”

wheat coral
#

they do

#

thats a myth

little osprey
#

sometimes i overclock my rams to 3600 but dont feel difference much actually lol

#

m,aybe 1 or 2 fps in games idk

desert gulch
#

Wdym sometimes

little osprey
#

i dont like overclock as well

#

just messing with it sometimes but returning back

desert gulch
#

Y lol

#

You try running occt to see if it's stable?

little osprey
#

yeah it is stable actually

desert gulch
#

You ran occt?

#

Games don't count

#

Lol

little osprey
#

yeah i did lol

desert gulch
#

O dang what die is it?

little osprey
#

no any crash with 3600

#

its 3200xmp

desert gulch
#

That's not die

#

Die is the chip in it

#

Like b die and c die

little osprey
#

wait let me check lol

desert gulch
#

Taiphoon burner can guess it fairly accurately, altho I reccomend going off the sticker on it

little osprey
#

i think its e die as well since its crucial ballistix

#

i dont think 3200 to 3600 is big overclock lol

#

actually I bought gskill trident z rgb which is 4000mhz recently too but lazy to install it xd

#

and it dont look good as ballistix couse its not white uh

desert gulch
#

Bruh

#

Then why buy it

stoic island
#

reve is good

earnest olive
#

occt isn't a complete stability test either lol

#

i've had "occt stable" mem ocs fail tm5 within the first 3 seconds

little osprey
#

umm actually I bought it for free lol I had 20% off elite coupon on evga and got notify for 3080ti , but I got white strix 3090 from newegg as well (huge thanks newegg) so I gave it to my friend and he gave me than rams lol

little osprey
earnest olive
#

it's only a small part of a complete stability test

little osprey
#

ouch

earnest olive
#

occt on its own is meaningless

#

ram oc is a many days long process don't bother touching anything if you don't want to spend the time going through the whole process

#

you can and will corrupt your files and/or windows install

little osprey
#

i just messing with it sometimes lol

#

usually using xmp speed

#

3200mhz is not bad for 10700k i think

#

i really want to upgrade it but waiting for 12th gen uh

kind vortex
#

ye come here man @pallid jasper

pallid jasper
#

Thanks man

#

Anyone trying to help me

wheat coral
#

with what

#

cmon you gotta say

pallid jasper
#

Pick parts

kind vortex
#

or we have my man floppa

pallid jasper
#

I wanna build a pc

wheat coral
#

budget?

#

what do you wanna do with it

pallid jasper
#

Around 500

#

But

#

I arl have a motherboard, case and HHd and sad

#

Ssd

wheat coral
#

what motherboard

#

what ssd

clever eagle
#

make a pc parts list

pallid jasper
#

Ok hold up