building-and-recc-chat

[kind vortex]

danm

1TB ssd

you lucky to have a gpu....

wait

we need to give him RGB

give him trident z ram

[fossil cedar]

Please

[fossil cedar]

No

[kind vortex]

why

it have rgb man

[unborn shell]

3300 shekel and i could go over budget by about 200 or even 300

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[kind vortex]

nice

[fossil cedar]

Then get ballistix rgb, better

[kind vortex]

ok

oi pato help me

[unborn shell]

thats about 1k usd

[kind vortex]

build me one

[unborn shell]

abit more

[kind vortex]

my current buildhttps://pcpartpicker.com/user/quanmen/saved/wVRcHx

pretty buggy

[grizzled verge]

I think your cpu is a bit overkill for your gpu

I suggest go for a lower cpu like a 3600 if your planning to go for a 1650

[fossil cedar]

1 sec

[kind vortex]

ok

[grizzled verge]

Then the remaining funds go for a 144hz monitor rather than a 75hz

Just my opinion though

[unborn shell]

ahh

._.

[grizzled verge]

Best bet is go for a 2nd hand gpu lmao

[fossil cedar]

They already have, also a 3600 is almost always a terrible choice for the past year or so

[kind vortex]

5 5600x it is

[grizzled verge]

Ohhhhh

[fossil cedar]

Not for Israel

[grizzled verge]

Sorry 3rd world country problems

[unborn shell]

bruh-

[grizzled verge]

All of our gpu prices are skyrocketing

Lmao

[grizzled verge]

Guess so

[unborn shell]

just so you know without israel you wouldn't have cherry tomato so take that

:>

[grizzled verge]

Im also trying to buy a cpu for my system im going to get a i5 10400f since its more cheaper than the 3600 here in the philippines

[fossil cedar]

@unborn shell is there any online stores you can link me for power supplies, there is only 1 on pc part picker and its 1k

[grizzled verge]

Yeah, thanks israel for the tomatoes

[fossil cedar]

Are you also not in america?

[unborn shell]

i can give you an online store that have parts from almost every other store in israel if that helps

[kind vortex]

ye lmao

[unborn shell]

https://www.zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=c-powersupply&keyword=power supply

[fossil cedar]

Just need one that sells power supplies

[unborn shell]

.-.

[kind vortex]

danm alien

[grizzled verge]

I hope i could buy at intwrnational stores

[kind vortex]

it nice to meet you

[grizzled verge]

The delivery cost is alot

[kind vortex]

friendly alien

[kind vortex]

it a cool country

[unborn shell]

ik

[kind vortex]

bro the mainboard im goin with use intel wifi lol

[grizzled verge]

I wqs trying to buy a cpu for 120 the shipping fee is around 150 plus

Lmao

[kind vortex]

and i use amd cpu

[grizzled verge]

Wired connection still best

[kind vortex]

yes ethernet

[grizzled verge]

Stronk

[stoic island]

Nothing wrong with Intel wifi

Ax200 is great

None of the above

What's the budget

[kind vortex]

hey @fossil cedar pato

[stoic island]

What layout you want

Also #peripherals-and-displays will work a bit better

[kind vortex]

what version of mainboard do i need for it to support the 5 5600x

[stoic island]

@kind vortex what board

[kind vortex]

the msi b550m pro vdh wifi

[stoic island]

If you look through the bios, look for which version has agesa 1.0.8

[kind vortex]

how did you know?

how

did you use alien power

[stoic island]

1.0.8 is the first agesa version that comes with zen 3 support

[kind vortex]

wait

[stoic island]

1.2.0 is the one that gets fun things

[kind vortex]

the 5 5600x is gen 3?

it said 5

[stoic island]

What

[grizzled verge]

Wait is b560 boards compatible with 10th gen intel chips?

[unborn shell]

.-.

[stoic island]

Zen 3 is the architecture

[grizzled verge]

Zen 3 5000 series

[kind vortex]

danmit

now i know

[stoic island]

It goes Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, Zen 3

[grizzled verge]

Yep

Go for a threadripper

[stoic island]

@grizzled verge b560 and 10th gen works

[grizzled verge]

Aight

[kind vortex]

uiqwerhr

reee

[kind vortex]

oi

what does that mean lmao

the fun part >

[unborn shell]

@fossil cedar so what do you think?

[kind vortex]

epic @unborn shell

[unborn shell]

._.

wot

[fossil cedar]

1 sec

https://www.zap.co.il/fs.aspx?pid=73512530&sog=c-powersupply

[unborn shell]

alr

[fossil cedar]

Lemme get rest of list

Accidentally closed off

[unborn shell]

ok

thanks btw

:D

[kind vortex]

danm

my man got the pc list in 20min lol

poor you @grizzled verge

the blue screen

[grizzled verge]

No thats the wallpaper

Lmao

[kind vortex]

oh waht

oh

danm

[grizzled verge]

Lmao

[fossil cedar]

@unborn shell https://il.pcpartpicker.com/list/3DQhCz probs, you might be better off with local shops more but here ya go using this link for the power supply https://www.zap.co.il/fs.aspx?pid=73512530&sog=c-powersupply

[kind vortex]

danm

that 620w look sus

[grizzled verge]

Can a 450w run a i5 10400f with a 1050ti?

[unborn shell]

i kinda agree

[kind vortex]

jees

3400$ lol

oh wait

that not $

[fossil cedar]

I'd just grab the latest non beta bios

[unborn shell]

im looking at the reviews on the store and people say its untrust worthy

[fossil cedar]

It's a c tier power supply

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[grizzled verge]

Go for an ali express psu

[unborn shell]

its in shekels not dollars

[kind vortex]

ok lamo

[fossil cedar]

Wait actually

The 900w one is actually better (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

Hate when they do that

[kind vortex]

what

900w????

that is hella of power

[unborn shell]

wat

._.

[fossil cedar]

@unborn shell https://www.shirion-computers.com/product.asp?aff_a=1&Pid=ANTEC-HCG650-80-GOLD-Modular&Cat2Cat1ID=24&Cat2ID=117

Get this one

Instead

[kind vortex]

nice

[fossil cedar]

That one's an a tier psu

[grizzled verge]

Msi b460m pro vdh wifi supports bluetooth and wifi 6 right?

Or is it a different board

Wait lemme look it up

[fossil cedar]

Wifi 5 iirc

But it's plenty

Also unless you have it already don't buy it

Get the b560

[unborn shell]

im looking at this build with no gpu and im amazed that it can be this pricey

[grizzled verge]

Its b560

Not b46p

B460

Lmao

[fossil cedar]

It's cuz you live in Israel ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unborn shell]

._.

[fossil cedar]

Yeah the b560m pro vdh wifi has wifi 5 and Bluetooth

[grizzled verge]

Aight

[fossil cedar]

@kind vortex what country you in then I'll give you're list a shot

[kind vortex]

vietnam :)

[stoic island]

Israel gets shipping from wegg tho

O no

Not Lazada

[grizzled verge]

The i5 10400f with that mobo cost around 280 bucks

[kind vortex]

buddget 23.000.000 vnd

[grizzled verge]

Is that a good deal?

[stoic island]

Use shopee for things

[fossil cedar]

Vietnam store?

[kind vortex]

which = 1000$

[stoic island]

Lazada is like a SEA retailer

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[stoic island]

And it's the bane of my existence

[grizzled verge]

SEA retail

[stoic island]

South east asia

Shopee just better

[grizzled verge]

280 bucks for an i5 10th gen with a mobo is it good for the price?

[stoic island]

What Mobo tho

[kind vortex]

no

[stoic island]

B560, yes, b460, prob not

[grizzled verge]

I think the exchange for peso to dollar got more expensive thats why its more expensive in dollars

[kind vortex]

there are scam everywhere on shoppe

[grizzled verge]

Yeah b560

[fossil cedar]

It's decent

[stoic island]

And not Lazada? >:P

[grizzled verge]

I dont normally uwe shopee and lazada

Just go for local storea

Or if your gonna use it make sure its a trusted store

[stoic island]

Local stores do work nicely when possible

[grizzled verge]

I go for easypc

And vavutech.ph

I can recommend both of that stores

I use them when i buy pc parta

Anyways thanks guys imma buy some parts on the weekend

Look at my steam acc

Look at my profile lmao

Yep

Just changing cpu

Second time the cpu bent using ryzen chips

Gonna change for intel

[kind vortex]

uhh you done @fossil cedar

welp

look like i gotta go sleep guys

gn

:)

[fossil cedar]

Alright ask me tomorrow mb

I kinda forgot lel

[kind vortex]

wait you done the pc?

also the cpu im goin is the 5 5600x

ok cya :)

[fossil cedar]

Aight

[uneven goblet]

can someone make a computer for 1000 usd

[stoic island]

What's your use case?

[tawny violet]

How can you bend the CPU...

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/eclipse-gray-asus-rog-strix-g17-g713qr-es96q-gaming/p/N82E16834235940?Item=N82E16834235940&Description=3070 laptop&cm_re=3070_laptop-_-34-235-940-_-Product this one is a $100 cheaper and by asus

can the TUF GAMING B460M-PLUS motherboard support 2 gpus? cant send the link

[desert gulch]

it can

just may not run at full bandwidth in second slot

i dont think you can sli or crossfire tho

[fossil cedar]

Yes but don't buy it if you haven't already bought it and it's in a build

[fossil cedar]

Both are dead anyway

[little osprey]

i wanted to buy another 3070 and put it inside

[desert gulch]

yeah but if they planning for 2 gpus im guessing thats what they may be goin for

[desert gulch]

dont

[little osprey]

how come?

[desert gulch]

3070 cant bridge

so itd be p much pointless

[fossil cedar]

It's worse tho, 115w-130w tdp for 3070 instead of 140w fixed

[little osprey]

i was planning to use it for crypto mining

[fossil cedar]

To mine with?

[little osprey]

yeah

[desert gulch]

o mining then maybe

[little osprey]

but will the mobo allow the gpu to run at full?

[fossil cedar]

You'd need to make sure the board has enough spacing for the 2nd 3070 bte

[desert gulch]

not at full

but thats not needed

[fossil cedar]

All that's needed for mining

[desert gulch]

mining doesnt need full bandwidth

[fossil cedar]

@little osprey have you already purchased the motherboard?

[tawny violet]

Pato, how TF does someone bend their CPU?

[fossil cedar]

The pins

[tawny violet]

Or is Ryzen just that badly built?

[little osprey]

yes it was in a prebuilt

from newegg

[little osprey]

But I’m not planning on making anything faster if that’s what your saying

[tawny violet]

I'd suspect it's them forcing it, not a problem with the chip

[desert gulch]

not badly built just fragile

[tawny violet]

I don't think I ever bent any pins in my life

[fossil cedar]

Ahh, the only problem might be spacing, a lot of 3070s are 3 slot cards and might cover the x16 slot, so you might need to get a riser if it doesn't fit

[fossil cedar]

What?

[tawny violet]

Just don't try to push it in of it doesn't just drop into place

[fossil cedar]

Nah, just gotta be careful, same with intels motherboards

[vivid pilot]

Ryzen 9 5900x + RtX 3090 or i9 10900k + rtx 3090???!

[desert gulch]

5900x for sure

[little osprey]

thats what it looks like @fossil cedar

[little osprey]

Wdym what, you said something I don’t even understand

[jagged ember]

At high end 5900x

[fossil cedar]

Most likely, the odd time it can come bent but unlikely

[tawny violet]

Which do you prefer, having the pins on the chip or the mobo?

[fossil cedar]

You're gonna need to buy a riser cable or get a different motherboard

[tawny violet]

I personally like them on the chip
Since you can technically fix it if you bend or break it with common enough tools and a bit of bravery
But the mobo-mounted pins are much harder to repair outside of the factory

[fossil cedar]

5900x/5950x +3090

[little osprey]

all i need would be a riser cable?

[jagged ember]

Yeah that ain't fitting a other 3070

But why not mine on the one you already have?

[little osprey]

i do, i just want another one

[fossil cedar]

It has less wattage for the gpu so it can't perform as well

[little osprey]

to mine some more

[tawny violet]

It's not worth to buy a GPU to mine now

[jagged ember]

Just don't use it as a main income source

[fossil cedar]

Idc really

[desert gulch]

im guessing if its a prebuilt that psu also wouldnt take another 3070

[jagged ember]

That's all I'll say lol

[tawny violet]

Crypto is basically dying slowly

[fossil cedar]

Possibly 2

[desert gulch]

and a psu

[little osprey]

i think its a 750w

[jagged ember]

Oh no

[little osprey]

because of eth 2.0?

[desert gulch]

prolly doesnt have enough connectors

[jagged ember]

750w can't run 2 3070 right?

[fossil cedar]

Not worth it unless putting in whole other pc or dedicated mining pc imo

[jagged ember]

Not enough physical connectors?

[tawny violet]

No, just the fact that it is starting to not be profitable

[desert gulch]

i mean for gpu mining if it had proper connectors maybe

[little osprey]

So the other one is better?

[fossil cedar]

Also any 3070s you get now will be lhr

[desert gulch]

depends on if its a good 750

[tawny violet]

Especially with the huge crypto farms

[fossil cedar]

New psu I'd say if you wanna mine and game at same time

[tawny violet]

I don't really see home miners making much of anything on their time and electricity

[fossil cedar]

Not really lol

[tawny violet]

Not anymore anyway

[jagged ember]

Miners still make profits

[little osprey]

Also I’m only planning on playing Minecraft and maybe trying fortnite out

[tawny violet]

Unless some new major crypto comes up that's not saturated yet

[little osprey]

will be lhr unless from nvidia itself?

[jagged ember]

Might not be thousands of dollars

[little osprey]

founders edition?

[jagged ember]

But they still make about what, 1 buck per day?

[tawny violet]

I mean it's meh margins if you have large farms
Really not much of you do it small

[fossil cedar]

an enermax revolution d.f. or msi agf (with 1 mining eth) but not a prebuilt psu imo

[jagged ember]

All lhr

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[jagged ember]

No cards are non lhr now

[little osprey]

But it only said the max wattage it can get to and the not the minimum

[fossil cedar]

Then why you wanna spend 2k unless you wanna play kinda competitive fornite, in that case get a desktop unless you absolutely cant for constant travel reasons

[tawny violet]

Buy the dedicated mining GPU at a premium

[jagged ember]

Pfft

No

[winged lion]

depends

[jagged ember]

Waste of gpus

[stoic island]

FE still are non-lhr afaik

[still roost]

BlAckH0le#3965 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[jagged ember]

Really?

[tawny violet]

Reeeee

[fossil cedar]

Okay well good luck finding a founders edition in the next 6 months

[tawny violet]

No joke
"Dedicated mining cards"

[little osprey]

Every pc part that I looked for on the list y’all made me is out of stock

[stoic island]

I believe

[fossil cedar]

Lhr make like 4$ per day ish

[jagged ember]

I thought all gpus were enforced with lhr

[tawny violet]

Ones that have f*ckall resale value as they're designed to be impossible to game on

[still roost]

Rayyy#2169 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fossil cedar]

140w is locked on the gigabyte laptop

[vivid pilot]

Gaming and content creation

[jagged ember]

HEY

NNO SWEARING

AND NO BYPASSING

[tawny violet]

Nvidia is milking the cash cow whole claiming to be "for gamers"
My @ss

[fossil cedar]

Not worth it

[little osprey]

had no clue sht was a swear, in this discord

[jagged ember]

But this is true

[stoic island]

say that to the previous mining cards :)

[jagged ember]

Ass is allowed tho

[stoic island]

remember when bitcoin became crazy in like 2018

how gpus were all out of stock and all

[little osprey]

bru

[tawny violet]

No, these new stuffs are literally made to be impossible to game on, they don't have any video outputs

[winged lion]

what kind of content creation?

video game footage?

[stoic island]

2 years ago :)
https://youtu.be/TY4s35uULg4

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali536-gladiator/p/N82E16883360141R

[tawny violet]

Did you check the Nvidia statement?

[stoic island]

you know the nvidia statement

that said no one was gonna be able to break lhr on 3060

and then a month later they themselves released a driver for 3060 without lhr

[jagged ember]

UnHaCkAbLe

[tawny violet]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

[vivid pilot]

Youtube channel, adobe premier, davinci etc

[tawny violet]

That is how you rob good GPUs from gamers
While milking the "We're for the gamers" narrative

[little osprey]

Wtf is that open box warning

[winged lion]

no like what kind of media are you producing/uploading

game footage?

[jagged ember]

Nvidia is COMPANY

[stoic island]

video

[jagged ember]

BIG MONEY GOOD

[stoic island]

but also

the people who hates mining is what got NVidia to make those cards

[winged lion]

🤬🤬🤬

[jagged ember]

'Miners caused the entire shortage, singlehandedly'

[stoic island]

miners don't want specialized hardware

[jagged ember]

Lmao

[stoic island]

if they do, it's called ASICs

[tawny violet]

Miners buy up everything

[stoic island]

that's what you want to believe

[tawny violet]

They literally snatched up a whole damn shipment of new AMD GPUs

[stoic island]

and that's fine

[winged lion]

i dont have a problem with miners

now, minors on the other hand

[fossil cedar]

Just means returned by someone else before

[stoic island]

I have a problem with miners, coal mining is dangerous

[tawny violet]

175 million dollars of 30-series

That went directly to miners

[fossil cedar]

But you can pay bit more for not open box or less and get an i5 10400f instead of 10700f

[tawny violet]

And Nvidia knows who they're selling to

[stoic island]

The question is, where did the data come from

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[stoic island]

bleach buys like 10 GPUs

he makes builds and sells builds

[undone osprey]

miners dont buy up everything tbh 🙂

[stoic island]

demonmit buys like 20 gpus, he also makes builds and sells builds

[tawny violet]

www.wccftech.com/nvidia-allegedly-sold-175-million-worth-ampere-geforce-rtx-30-gpus-to-miners

[stoic island]

are they the miners that are buying up all the gpus?

[undone osprey]

all gpus are just over msrp rn so like whatever

[winged lion]

remove amp

[stoic island]

Allegedly :D

but yea amp annoying

[tawny violet]

It's in the report internally lmfao

[undone osprey]

an

its a company so like

ya know

[winged lion]

مبمينني

[undone osprey]

money first

[tawny violet]

Now it doesn't decking work

[jagged ember]

But yes the reason we are in a shortage is because of miners

This is absolutely true facts

And no false fakeness

[stoic island]

2.27 Billion to gamers too, according to the report @tawny violet

:)

[jagged ember]

Not because there's supply issues

Or unprecedented demand

[undone osprey]

there was already a shortage miners only made it worse

[winged lion]

lol

barly

[tawny violet]

Miners and scalpers ain't helping one bit tho

[little osprey]

Wouldn’t even know how to search for it, may just give up on trying to find something

[tawny violet]

Everything is just piledriving

[jagged ember]

Yeah but everyone blames them

[winged lion]

when the shortage is barly miners

[jagged ember]

It's not their fault entirely

We are all at fault

[undone osprey]

the shortage is partly the miners fault but they weren't the reason the shortage started

[tawny violet]

We are the problem now

[stoic island]

everything contributes to everything

[jagged ember]

Because everyone and their dog wants a new gpu

[winged lion]

BARLY EVERYTHING

[stoic island]

but that doesn't mean miners are what caused the shortage

[tawny violet]

Almost like everyone is stuck inside and wants to game lmfao

[stoic island]

nor that miners aren't affecting the shortage

[tawny violet]

I mean you can't get a console either

[jagged ember]

We are all the problem

[tawny violet]

Nothing is in stock ever

[stoic island]

yep

[winged lion]

I also like using discord bold feature

[stoic island]

ME TOO

[tawny violet]

More like the pandemic is the problem

[undone osprey]

oh no not italics 😦

[little osprey]

You’re right, it’s scalpers, they buy everything in bulk when it’s new or people start buying it a lot more and then sell it for double or triple the price

[jagged ember]

Actually yeah

[stoic island]

tbh

[jagged ember]

Pandemic also contribute

[stoic island]

from my perspective, too much blame on just the pandemic when it was the global logistical system that was already on it's knees before the pandemic

[tawny violet]

Demand was largely caused by the pandemic lockdowns

[jagged ember]

And yes

Interconnectivity caused a global supply collapse

[stoic island]

just couldn't get things from one place to another

[jagged ember]

I will soon understand how networks can explain this collapse

[tawny violet]

Sure logistics were shot before
But it at least held up to normal demand
The skyrocketing killed it

[undone osprey]

doesnt help that chip manufacturers are raising the prices soon either

[jagged ember]

Cause no supply

[winged lion]

are you guys forgetting the cars

[tawny violet]

Everything is just coming together to make the world hell basically

[winged lion]

#carlivesmatter

[stoic island]

lol

[jagged ember]

Cars 4 ain't coming out

Cause they can't make em

[still roost]

Aegis#5729 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[winged lion]

beuh

bruh

[tawny violet]

Thing is
Miners at least resell at reasonable enough prices

[stoic island]

could've sworn ian cutress made an article on wafer costs a while ago

guess I can't find it

[winged lion]

cars production doen 40% or some sh%!

[stoic island]

:(

[tawny violet]

Scalpers however can burn in the deepest pit of hell

[jagged ember]

AY

What is this swearing lmao

[tawny violet]

Everyone be mad

[undone osprey]

im talking about tsmc raising prices cause of material costs

[jagged ember]

Is true

[lyric thistle]

car production down

this makes me happy :^)

[undone osprey]

wat why

[tawny violet]

You're pretty idiotic to be happy about car production being down

It's not just cars

Medical equipment

[undone osprey]

nah who needs medical service i just lay and pray

[tawny violet]

There is I believe a 5 year wait list on CT machines for hospitals because there isn't enough computer chips to make the control units

Let that sink in for a second

[jagged ember]

I cannot confirm

[ancient crown]

Yeah so less cars = more cts

Ez

[stoic island]

there are chips that used to cost cents that are now costing tens to hundreds of dollars afaik

[tawny violet]

That's almost Ben Shapiro levels of false equivalence

[undone osprey]

theres a reason why theres less cars...

[ancient crown]

Sure it is

[undone osprey]

when chip production goes back up then car production will too

[tawny violet]

Supposedly

[potent portal]

Less cars also equals us not hitting our goals of replacing cars with electric because they're too expensive

[tawny violet]

Can't know for sure tho

[tawny violet]

They already were
This just makes it much worse

Also where do you get enough batteries?

You grab big, diesel-guzzling machines and dig up the rainforest

[potent portal]

Yeah it was some pretty lofty goals already, and I know electric cars aren't that much better in the long run

[undone osprey]

tbf most of our oxygen doesn't even come from trees

[jagged ember]

Electric car is not long term

[undone osprey]

who cares about the animals am i righttttt /s

[ancient crown]

Yes

[jagged ember]

Yeah animal dum

Kill

[ancient crown]

Animals can't make me a graphics card

[undone osprey]

smh why couldnt they be more adaptable

[jagged ember]

For capitalism!

[tawny violet]

And then use many, many hundreds of thousands of tons of CO2 to get the metals.to place, and then manufacture batteries which die in 5 years and then pollute the planet for decades

[lyric thistle]

I love being called an idiot by an idiot 😎

[tawny violet]

And then wonder why everything is going to the dumpster

[ancient crown]

Udiot

[potent portal]

They can if you put it into a high pressure chamber for a few thousand years, they become crude oil to be made into plastics

[lyric thistle]

[undone osprey]

well its not like people really care about climate change because it won't affect them that much personally

[covert vapor]

Don't forget that people go and replace their perfectly fine non-electric car with an electric one, resulting in waste via replacement.

[jagged ember]

This isn't build chat anymore

[ancient crown]

I don't have that kinda time!!!

Gib grabics card now

[undone osprey]

where is the environmental preservation chat smh

[ancient crown]

Need to play minesweeper on 8k 10000fps

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/love-heart-beat-you-make-my-heart-beat-heart-thump-beating-heart-gif-5460078

right here

[undone osprey]

i start school tomorrow and i have havent even started my summer assignment lol

well time to start it now i guess

[stoic island]

as good a time as any to start

[undone osprey]

i mean its just 2 outlines

i have to do

[ancient crown]

Wait summer assignments exist?

[covert vapor]

Yes

Painful

[undone osprey]

dang apush 😦

[stoic island]

apush is fun if you have good teacher

[ancient crown]

Glad my school never did that

[stoic island]

but summer assignment sad

[undone osprey]

how can reading 24 pages and outline it be fun

if there was a way i would like to know

[covert vapor]

If you like history, the reading can be fun

I liked history and enjoyed my APUSH outline readings

[stoic island]

but also dif teachers dif styles of reading

[undone osprey]

its literally about stuff we learned before

[stoic island]

I don't think my apush teacher ever assigned a reading longer than just the constitution

[covert vapor]

Any US history class will be about stuff you learned before, they've been pounding US history into your head since Elementary school, it is just that the later classes go a bit more in depth

[potent portal]

The problem is that I hated history, I can't remember dates at all. I forgot my own birthday twice.

[stoic island]

Although most of the history I learnt in my apush class wasn't covered by previous education

[stoic island]

Don't need to memorize dates for history

I love history and I hate dates

[potent portal]

I did in my class

[stoic island]

the only date I can remember was 1453 siege of Constantinople

[covert vapor]

Yeah, I never had to memorize dates, mostly just order of events at worst

[stoic island]

I often forget when the US was founded

[stoic island]

just a bad teacher then, because you really don't need to know the specific date of anything

[arctic jungle]

for real though

[stoic island]

just need to know approx order of events

:p

[potent portal]

Bad book I think was more like it, it was outdated by like 15 years

[arctic jungle]

giving up video games was one of the best mental health moves I made since coffee

[stoic island]

I'm pretty sure my teacher actually wrote the textbook we used soooo yea

[undone osprey]

teachers have been teaching the same us history so much that i bet everyone one you knows what year christopher columbus came to the americas

[stoic island]

when tho

[covert vapor]

Most of the stuff I learned that hadn't been covered before was the labor movement and some stuff in the lead up to the Civil War. Can't have little kiddies learning about worker solidarity eh?

[stoic island]

lol

[arctic jungle]

1492

[stoic island]

debs is just such a fun guy

[arctic jungle]

😎

[stoic island]

like

he ran for presidency from jail

and got like 4% of the popular vote

[arctic jungle]

the moment u realize columbus had a crappy personality

[undone osprey]

you can say that about a lot of famous people

[arctic jungle]

you should read up the AP euro textbook on him

he's...

interesting

to say the least

[stoic island]

anyways most of the things about the US pre-apush is usually just stuff about the founding of the US

[potent portal]

I don't remember when that slave trader landed here looking for another slave route

[covert vapor]

Mhm, Debs was really interesting when we covered the SPA

[stoic island]

AP Euro on Columbus is fun

[potent portal]

Which they also didn't mention in the class

[stoic island]

SPA?

[covert vapor]

Socialist Party of America

[stoic island]

ahh

I remember in one of the assigned DBQs I was arguing about debs indirectly influencing the russian revolution

it was fun to write

Debs actually hated communism iirc

[undone osprey]

i wonder when are we wondering back to build chat topics lol

*wandering

[covert vapor]

We never talked about foreign events in our APUSH class unless it was specifically related to the US

Not even in the assignments

[stoic island]

we didn't really cover spa, more just knights of labor and afl and aru and such

[stoic island]

really? we had a couple of DBQs about US foreign affairs

especially around ww1 time

spanish american war

oh wait misread it, but yea

[covert vapor]

We didn't go super in depth, but we covered the platform and how it was spurred by the labor movement and such. And Debs' campaigns.

We talked about the homefront for WW1, didn't really cover much other than that besides Wilson's foreign policy goals

[stoic island]

oh yea, that reminds me, omaha platform and the populists

[winged lion]

average build chat convo

[stoic island]

wilsons' poor 14 points

only one point got implemented and poorly

[vague oracle]

If I remember correctly the G17 had LM problems frying the gpu

[potent portal]

Ye convo here gets derailed frequently

[covert vapor]

7, 8 and 13 went rather well. Mostly

14 was a trainwreck though

[stoic island]

I never remember which point is which, like how I never remember dates, but yea

[covert vapor]

7 was freedom for Belgium, 8 was the return of Alsace-Lorraine and 13 was a Polish state

[stoic island]

Pretty sure one of them was national self determination as France and Britain split the middle east

Lel

[covert vapor]

12 was the stuff on the Middle East, which was that Turkey should be a thing, the other Ottoman states should have the right to self determination

So...kinda win?

[midnight goblet]

@stoic island Aegis told me you were doing a VRM list for LGA1200.

I’ve made a B560 sheet that you might find useful.

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali559/p/N82E16883360189?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0 this should do

[formal girder]

Only thing about the whole build i dont like is that front glass panel but great option

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's not great but ahh well

[formal girder]

Hey if anything once received get new case and sell old case

[fossil cedar]

Kinda ruins the point of a prebuilt for most people lel

[earnest olive]

case swap is more work than a full build

[formal girder]

But great learning experience imo

[earnest olive]

people buy prebuilts specifically so they don't have to learn

[mortal void]

so I'm wiping my SSD via windows reset, but I don't want to reinstall windows. Do I just interrupt the reinstalling windows 10 process or what do I do? I want it completely wiped.

[earnest olive]

..what

if you want it completely wiped just reinstall windows

much easier

[mortal void]

eh it's already 87%

I have it set to wipe all my files and such already. I just don't want to reinstall windows back on it since I'll be using it for a games drive once I get the rest of my parts delivered

[earnest olive]

oh

lol you could have just deleted the partition

and reinitialized

would have taken 30 seconds

[mortal void]

well I'm not smart lmao. I just did it the way I know how

[earnest olive]

😔

[formal girder]

Feels like a bingo moment instead of buying parts and asking if list is good its doing an action and asking after what the best way is

[mortal void]

is NTFS only used for Windows Boot Drives?

or is it just hard drives in general

[little osprey]

Can anybody direct me toward a good 4 in 2 out hdmi 2.0 switch? Every one I find has awful reviews

[mortal void]

I assume it's normal to have only 930 gigs free on this completely wiped 1tb drive?

[little osprey]

@mortal void yeah. The difference is called provisioning. The controller sets aside partitions that you can't access to be able to move around data and whatnot

[lyric thistle]

932 is the typical allocated 1tb size

[stoic island]

@midnight goblet nooo, he misunderstood, it's that I found a lga1200 vrm tier list a while back that has good info on z490 and z590 boards mainly, was asking if you know and/or work with the people that made that

[earnest olive]

this isn't it

[undone osprey]

Don’t mind me I’m just lurking

[earnest olive]

it's because windows misreports GiB as GB

1 TB = 1000 GB = 1,000,000,000,000 bytes

1 TiB = 1024 GB = 1,099,511,627,776 bytes

manufacturers sell you an actual 1TB drive

[undone osprey]

@earnest olive nice discord username

[earnest olive]

1TB / 1024^3 = 931.323

hence 931 GiB

[earnest olive]

thank you

[stoic island]

overprovisioning and all usually would kinda show, for example, @little osprey, mp510 uses quite a bit of overprovisioning, and only advertises 960GB size, and in reality only gives me around 894GiB usable

[winged lion]

woops

[mortal void]

question, what do I need to do to my SSD to get windows to recognize it again? Just partition it or rebuild MBR?

I had to download Partition Wizard so I can do this

Should I just make a full partition using NTFS as the format?

[mortal void]

okay so if its 931.5GB its fully wiped and perfectly fine?

[stoic island]

is ok, still misunderstandings happen

[earnest olive]

ye

[mortal void]

okay good

I'll just need to re-add the partition I deleted lol. Thank god for Partition Wizard

NTFS will be the best option since it's Windows correct?
@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

ye

[mortal void]

ok thanks

I feel alot less dumb now that I've learned some more

[inland parrot]

might need to re paste my cpu, any recommendations of thermal paste

and no i dont have anymore thermal paste from my cpu cooler

[desert gulch]

mx5

[lethal lagoon]

Which monitor is best for 2k gaming below 400$

[stoic island]

m27q

[inland parrot]

mx5 vs ARCTIC MX-4

i feel like those are the same

[stoic island]

basically same

[desert gulch]

mx5 is just a bit newer

[formal girder]

I just use Noctua NT-H1

[inland parrot]

i am either get ARCTIC or Grizzly Kryonaut or Nocta

[placid halo]

what is the best gpu for the ryzen 5 3600

[kind vortex]

ok im back @fossil cedar

[steel tartan]

I got new cpu and I got no video and am wondering if my cpu can work with mobo I got a ryzen 5 2600x and a Gigabyte A520M AORUS Elite

I need help

[grand geyser]

I just put on the paste that came with my NH-D15 and it works phenomenally on my 5950X. The hottest my chip runs is 55º Celsius.

[clever eagle]

anything other than a 3090

i guess
1050 ti to 3070 ti
by then you would want to spend more on a better cpu

[formal girder]

Then your not pushing your chip then

[formal girder]

Do you have a graphics card?

[steel tartan]

Ye

[formal girder]

Is your cable plugged into it?

[steel tartan]

Yeap

I get a no signal

Well I do but it’s black screen

[vague oracle]

Are there any error leds on your mobo?

[formal girder]

Wait a520 doesnt support 2600x afaik

[steel tartan]

O

[formal girder]

I could be wrong but you need a 3000 series or above but no G variant iirc

[vague oracle]

Yeah a520 is only 3000 and above

[formal girder]

Well the G variants are for the 5000 series only

[desert gulch]

Why not 3090?

[steel tartan]

Yea I thought mine would work cause of 5000 series and it’s a 5 2600x

[desert gulch]

Or 6900xt?

[clever eagle]

im not its expensiv

[desert gulch]

Those two kinda are tbh

He asked for best one

[clever eagle]

a

[desert gulch]

3090/6900xt would be the best one

[formal girder]

For your motherboard you need a minimum of a ryzen 3 3100 or above and ryzen 5 2600X is not compatible

[steel tartan]

Ok my old one was a ryzen 3 3100

[formal girder]

That would work

[steel tartan]

But I’m trying to upgrade to a new one

[formal girder]

I would say a ryzen 5 3600x wouldve be a better option

[vague oracle]

2600x is not an upgrade over the 3100 if I remember correctly

It’s about the same

[desert gulch]

3600x kinda bad value tbh

[formal girder]

Yeah but better than 2600x

[vague oracle]

I’d just get a 5600x at that point

[formal girder]

^^

[steel tartan]

Well

[desert gulch]

3600x is basically 5600x price rb

Rn

[formal girder]

Idk i dont watch amd prices

[desert gulch]

Even more in some places

[steel tartan]

Then my cpu bottle neck gpu

[formal girder]

Whats your gpu?

[vague oracle]

Not a thing to worry about

[steel tartan]

Rx580 8gb

[formal girder]

Thats fine

[vague oracle]

Bottlenecking is of so little importance when actually picking out parts, there’s going to be a bottleneck somewhere no matter what

[formal girder]

Yep

Just dont 3090 and 2600x

[vague oracle]

Even that’d be fine since you ain’t buying a 3090 for 1080p

[formal girder]

[vague oracle]

CPU matters less and less the high resolution you go

[desert gulch]

It is

A little bit

[formal girder]

I felt attacked on that one

[desert gulch]

But not enough to justify it's current cost

[steel tartan]

What’s a good mini itx for my cpu

[vague oracle]

Why do you want mini itx?

[steel tartan]

Case

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok

[steel tartan]

Yea

[vague oracle]

Wait for the 2600x?

[steel tartan]

Yea

[vague oracle]

Ehh I’d keep the motherboard you have now and change the cpu

[steel tartan]

To what

[vague oracle]

5600x

[steel tartan]

Can that go in my mother board

[vague oracle]

A very substantial upgrade from the 3100 and compatible with your motherboard

About 40% faster single core and 110% faster multicore than the 3100

[steel tartan]

Ok

I would have to wait to return my cpu

[desert gulch]

Just gotta get a cooler for it too prolly

[vague oracle]

The stock cooler is adequate for some time until he can get a better cooler

[steel tartan]

I got a good cooler

[vague oracle]

Well according to demon it is

[desert gulch]

Hyper 212?

[steel tartan]

Ye I think

[vague oracle]

Not really that good but it’ll work

[desert gulch]

Damn I'm good at guessing

[steel tartan]

Lol

[desert gulch]

Def not the most popular aftermarket cooler or anything

[formal girder]

Just slap an intel stock cooler with modded brackets

[desert gulch]

Lol

[vague oracle]

Intel stock cooler on a 3090

[formal girder]

Bet

[modest vortex]

Thanks for the 80ti giga newegg

[vague oracle]

Shuffle?

[modest vortex]

Nah the random drop after

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok congrats!

How much did you pay?

[modest vortex]

I flip PC's so it was decently priced

1490

[desert gulch]

Nice

You planning to repad it?

[vague oracle]

That’s actually a really good price

[modest vortex]

Mediocre

[formal girder]

Hmm 3080ti is pricey but worth it since some oc over 3090s

[modest vortex]

EVGA ftw3s spoiling me

[vague oracle]

Compared to other prices it’s being sold for its pretty good

[modest vortex]

I've had three

And may be getting two hybrids

And have had two xc3 hydrocoppers

[grand geyser]

I'm liking my 3080 Suprim X.

[vague oracle]

Lmao I was just about to dm you asking if you wanted to be invited to a flipping server I’m in only to notice you’re already in it

[modest vortex]

80ti stock is way better than 90s or really anything elsr

[grand geyser]

I bought the 3080 over waiting for the 3080 Ti or a 3090 because I intend to use it for business and definitely upgrade when the 4000 series comes out. Otherwise, I would have held out for a better card that would last me longer.

[vague oracle]

I used to have a 3090 until I sold the PC it was in

Now I’m just parting out a new build

[formal girder]

Woo happy happy 22990 gpu test oc haha

[vague oracle]

What’s your stock TimeSpy?

[formal girder]

Stock gpu was like 18k

[vague oracle]

Oh wow

My 6800xt is think was also about there

When it was stock

[formal girder]

I kept capping at like 21k until i decided to finally do fans 100%

[steel tartan]

So it will 100% work with my cpu

[formal girder]

Does my gpu oc score fair against most other 3090 ocs?

[vague oracle]

Yes

[vague oracle]

No idea, I didn’t OC my 3090

[steel tartan]

Ok ima go to Best Buy

And return the 2600

[formal girder]

Alright

[inland parrot]

what is a good duster cleaner for pc

[clever eagle]

dust

[inland parrot]

maybe I should clean dust with dust

[clever eagle]

hmm yes

i agree

[desert gulch]

Just get an air gun if you have a compressor, if not, you can buy little aerosol cans of compressed air

[kind vortex]

@fossil cedar

[ancient crown]

Hey I'm still learning computer issues.

My friend recently bought an ABS pc from wegg.

He says when gaming it will just randomly restart his computer. No BSOD,no warning , nothing. Just randomly restarts

[stoic island]

What does event viewer say?

[ancient crown]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala222/p/N82E16883360019

[stoic island]

also, gpu drivers?

early 5600xt drivers sucky

[kind vortex]

danm 1000$

[ancient crown]

I'll have him check

He's updated the drivers to the latest

[stoic island]

might be worth chipset drivers too but check event viewer first

[ancient crown]

The reviews all say the same things happened to them lmao

Yeah I'm waitin for him to respond on the event viewer

[stoic island]

oh fun

[ancient crown]

How far do the logs go?

[stoic island]

tell them ignore the warnings, and check for the errors

oh event viewer? practically forever

[ancient crown]

I figured

[stoic island]

main thing is look for whea error, and errors near a kernal power error

there are software errors that don't mean much in there, but just look for things around the crash

[kind vortex]

check the24pin power cable

does it plug all the way in

[ancient crown]

Yeah I had him check cables already

[kind vortex]

oh ok

[ancient crown]

Says that's the last time it crashed

[stoic island]

okay, what's the errors before kernal power?

[ancient crown]

Above or below?

[stoic island]

interested in these

both

but below is before

[kind vortex]

it could be the driver i think

[stoic island]

wat

[kind vortex]

or the mainboard bios

[stoic island]

need to see what the error is first

[kind vortex]

I THINK

[stoic island]

can't see much from screenshot

[kind vortex]

poor his pc

[stoic island]

kernal power is kinda a hey you crashed

[kind vortex]

just tp to his room

[stoic island]

yay nothing clear

@ancient crown windows debugging time

General fix for random windows problems

From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:

sfc /scannow

If that doesn't work, try:

dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Then, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary

(looks most likely software things, not hardware)

[ancient crown]

So run those. Test for crashing, if no dice, rerun commands?

[stoic island]

for now just run, and test

[ancient crown]

Rog

Thank you very much

You're a hero and I'd kiss you

[kind vortex]

jeus

[stoic island]

btw tell them to take better pictures, make it easier to see description :p

[ancient crown]

I'll be back once he's done it

Yes better pics lol

[kind vortex]

ok

[stoic island]

or get phone with better camera

[ancient crown]

[kind vortex]

[stoic island]

eh, do dism anyways too

just in case

[ancient crown]

Now my question is, how could so many people be having this issue lol

Rog

[stoic island]

also pc building simulator eh? I'm suspicious of that check mark next to the application tho, making me think of some wacky malware

[kind vortex]

i want to play that game

[stoic island]

windows can often be screwy soooo

[kind vortex]

craked windows is buggy

[stoic island]

no reason for anyone to crack windows

it's free to download

free to get rid of watermark

free to use regedit

[kind vortex]

no

like activate windows

[stoic island]

yes

you can activate windows w regedit

practically activate it

[kind vortex]

i have the thing to do it

[stoic island]

not that you can link the license to your acc, but everything will work as if you had it activated

[kind vortex]

and i know how

sus uncel give me this

and yup it did activate the windows for free

[stoic island]

fun

[kind vortex]

oi man

should i get a console or a pc

[ancient crown]

Both

[kind vortex]

ok

[ancient crown]

Maybe abs just like has a mass windows mirror process they do or something to install windows on all the pcs they build so they all get the same errors

[stoic island]

there's also law of big numbers

lots of people buy pc

[ancient crown]

True true

[stoic island]

windows high screwiness rate

= high reports of death

[ancient crown]

it seems like is the more recent ones from the reviews I'm readin

[stoic island]

there's also the mentality of "hey this other guy definitely has exact same thing I got so I'll report it as the same thing too"

[kind vortex]

seem good to me

[ancient crown]

Also he has no idea why his icons have check marks lol

[stoic island]

it happened to the reviews of b550 pro vdh wifi, and there were fun reports of people saying the bios was dead or something even though the issue was incompatible cpu lel

[ancient crown]

Fair fair lol

[stoic island]

time for antivirus things, malwarebytes to start, there's this thing someone said was good at some point
https://www.emsisoft.com/en/home/emergencykit

people download sketchy things for fun

it's normal

[ancient crown]

Yeah I'll have him run malware bytes. We will see if he listened to me in the beginning for getting malwarebytes

[stoic island]

common sense would say don't download p95 because of how suspicious the website is but ehhhh

[ancient crown]

Haven't heard of that, I'll check it

[stoic island]

p95 is random example software, not antivirus, it's a stress test

[ancient crown]

If I was there I'd just use my USB that I got from when I was working at staples

Had mwb hitmanpro

[stoic island]

ah yes

[ancient crown]

And some other nonsense for extra malware scans

[stoic island]

but anyways tell me this doesn't look suspicious :p

[ancient crown]

Definitely looks sus lmao

Also

This fool

Knew it

[stoic island]

lmfao

[earnest olive]

it doesn't look suspicious it just looks old

[stoic island]

the "There are Cash Rewards for ..." though

[earnest olive]

reasons i ignore all user reviews

i remember looking at this argb fan on amazon

[stoic island]

and the setup instructions on the front page

[earnest olive]

listing title said (3 PIN ONLY)

images said 3 pin only and put a big checkmark over argb header and big red X over rgb header

description said 3 pin argb only

top user review: 1 star not compatible with my mobo

picture of rgb header

42069 people found this helpful

[stoic island]

damn I was expecting fried rgb story

fell short

[ancient crown]

Alright the dism commands went through fine . I'll have him get mwb like I told him to before. Thank you again

[stoic island]

but you know some poor guy crammed argb connector into rgb header tho

:)

[earnest olive]

if they ignore all that and force it anyways i have no sympathy lol

[stoic island]

ignorance is bliss

[earnest olive]

just fry your rgb and go buy a prebuilt

[vapid seal]

I have a cm storm stryker tower. It has intel i3 in it, I want to upgrade the cpu and add more ram, is that possible?

[earnest olive]

depends

easiest way to tell is to open it up and take a look

see if it's got a proprietary mobo or not

wait that's just a case not a prebuilt

yeah you should be able to

[vapid seal]

yeah I got it from a guy who built it

[ancient crown]

No threats detected lol

[kind vortex]

danm

[ancient crown]

Lol

[little osprey]

pro-vdh wifi okay for b550?

[earnest olive]

more than okay

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[rotund folio]

Hey guys, Anyone can give me a feedback on this build that I'm doing? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jQQMj2

[clever eagle]

expensiv

[rotund folio]

would you change anything?

[ancient peak]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zrZjmk this list is good in my opinion, anything to change/improve?

[tight sorrel]

change your ram to 2 x 16gb modules instead of 4 x 8gb

[rotund folio]

thanks for the feedback

[clever eagle]

better cooler i think

and maybe change motherboard idk

[tight sorrel]

might want to switch the SSD, WD seems to have been messing with the components of that model, affecting its performance, without tellinbg anyone. Also, is that the price of 6700XT? gawd dayum

[clever eagle]

i know

australia prices messed up

my 3070 cost 1049

now its 1600

[ancient peak]

@clever eagle what cooler should i use?

@tight sorrel and what nvme should i get

And yeah, im in australia, so price is different

[clever eagle]

air or aio

[tight sorrel]

look at a lianli gallahad 240mm aio

[clever eagle]

thats $200

liquid feezer 2 240 or 280 is cheaper

theres a $11 difference between the 240 and 280

wow

[tight sorrel]

280 LF then

[clever eagle]

yes

[tight sorrel]

it will be able to handle any CPU upgrades later

[clever eagle]

what ssd should he get

a2000?

980?

mp510?

[ancient peak]

Is the tforce delta z330 good?

[still roost]

Lamb Sauce#2483 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[clever eagle]

umm

[ancient peak]

Oh damn

I reckon the samsung 980 would be good

As for cpu cooler, reckon the coolermaster masterliquid 240mm rgb aio would be good for about 80 bucks

@clever eagle @tight sorrel

[clever eagle]

hi

[tight sorrel]

yes

[tight sorrel]

no

[clever eagle]

hmm
no

[tight sorrel]

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/dL92FT/deepcool-as500-plus-7081-cfm-cpu-cooler-r-as500-bknlmp-g this

or this

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/vV7G3C/noctua-nh-u12s-redux-7075-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s-redux

[ancient peak]

Thanks