building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

my keeb has passthrough too

i use it for mouse

[serene pulsar]

That’s a huge PSU then

[stoic island]

not huge

the psu shroud is longer than the psu

[little osprey]

Ye

[earnest olive]

not really psu sizes are standardized

[little osprey]

shroud usually just goes on the whole bottom of the case

[serene pulsar]

What case is that sprout

It looks like mesh in front too

[little osprey]

td500 mesh

white

[earnest olive]

that's td500 mesh

[serene pulsar]

That is the td too?

Wooowoowee

[little osprey]

Very clean design

[serene pulsar]

Individual fans on top or a 360

I want all the specs😫

[stoic island]

length isn't really

using Corsair for example, CX is 140mm long, RMx is 160mm long, AXi is 200mm long

all ATX PSUs

[earnest olive]

this was my old pc at its best

before i stripped it down to sell

[stoic island]

SFX and SFX-L get weird

and then there's server PSUs

the long bois

[serene pulsar]

@earnest olive

Anyway I can get the fan specs on the 2nd pic

^

[earnest olive]

those are all id-cooling xf-12025-argb

i bought them for $3 each

[serene pulsar]

What

How

[earnest olive]

pricing error

i bought 15 of them

filled up my old and new pc

[serene pulsar]

Oh my god

That’s nuts

[earnest olive]

both pcs use the same fans

[serene pulsar]

So would you recommend getting a 360 on top

Or do individual fans

[earnest olive]

my new build was all about dealhunting

ehh

depends on your ram

if you are going with the td500 mesh that is

[stoic island]

r/bapcs eh

[serene pulsar]

I’m doing ballistix

[earnest olive]

if you are going for o11 xl then you can put it wherever you want

[earnest olive]

no, hws

[stoic island]

ah

[earnest olive]

ballistix will allow you top mount 360mm aio in td500 mesh

[stoic island]

both are good

but bapcs for new stuff

[earnest olive]

most of these prices are impossible retail

[serene pulsar]

What’s the snowflake thing

[earnest olive]

aio

[serene pulsar]

Is that covering the cpu

[earnest olive]

silverstone pf360-argb

yes

[serene pulsar]

Oh

[stoic island]

ballistix price is definitely retail possible

[earnest olive]

for rgb kit?

[stoic island]

yes

[earnest olive]

never seen it that low before

[stoic island]

non-rgb used to be 75 not on sale

rgb used to be like 85 not on sale

add a sale and ez

[earnest olive]

i looked at pcpp price history

it has never been below $90 since it released

[serene pulsar]

How tf

Is the galahad 36$

It’s 160

[earnest olive]

dealhunting

[serene pulsar]

Is that a website

[stoic island]

I say pcpp dumb

nah

hunting deals

[serene pulsar]

Where do you find that

[stoic island]

bleach got the galahad used

from a different guy

[serene pulsar]

Like where is this list at

[earnest olive]

this is my pc lol

[serene pulsar]

Huh??

What’s that mean

[stoic island]

what doesn't make sense

[stoic island]

do keep in mind pcpp doesn't track amazon prices

[earnest olive]

the used parts in my pc are aio, gen 4 ssd, case, psu (from my old build not from someone else), strimers, rgb hub

[stoic island]

and yea, I was gonna say, that tx-m price looked retail

[earnest olive]

5800x, b550 steel legend, ram, gen 3 ssd, 3080, fans, usb right angle cable, magnets, monitor were all brand new

[stoic island]

yea, those prices look pretty reasonable for good deal retail

[earnest olive]

you can tell gpu and psu are retail cause they're the only ones ending in .99 lmao

[stoic island]

yea

ud70 is a weird ssd

[earnest olive]

i like it

it's a good game drive

[stoic island]

it's like a rocket q

with more slc

[serene pulsar]

LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic Razer Edition Black Tempered glass ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case - PC-O11D Razer https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P96XQNJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_ZGT1HZEZ8FPFT09SN30N?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Good or bad

[stoic island]

god no for the price

[earnest olive]

that price made me puke in my mouth a little

[stoic island]

like

100$, yes

[serene pulsar]

What was the model y’all said

[earnest olive]

more than double the price of my case for a razer logo 💀

[stoic island]

150$, if you really really really like it for some reason, I wouldn't

[serene pulsar]

Lian Li O11 something

[earnest olive]

td500 mesh for the traditional budget option

[serene pulsar]

XL?

[earnest olive]

o11 xl if you want to go stupid with 10 fans

[stoic island]

td500 mesh is neat

[serene pulsar]

It ain’t stupid 😂

[earnest olive]

i have o11 non-xl

[stoic island]

td500 mesh black is 100$, white is 120$ atm

[serene pulsar]

Can td fit bottom fans

[stoic island]

no

you don't need bottom fans

td500 mesh is what bleach has

[serene pulsar]

Who bleach

[stoic island]

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

he knows me by my discord username and not my current nickname

we oldies

[outer zodiac]

someone link me a good buget headset, doesnt need a mic on it, i have a yeti mic. my dog chewed through my cord on my other headset

[serene pulsar]

Oh so that’s what you meant bleach got Galahad used

Lol

[earnest olive]

define budget

[stoic island]

there's 20$ budget and 50$ budget

[serene pulsar]

I thought bleach spilled on Galahad 😭

[stoic island]

lmao

[outer zodiac]

like under 100$ cad

[stoic island]

hm

[earnest olive]

some people would consider my $250 sennheisers budget

[stoic island]

don't remember if koss shipped to canada

prob does

[serene pulsar]

Mr1111

[outer zodiac]

koss? is it a website?

[stoic island]

yea it's budget compared to he 1

[serene pulsar]

How many times have I bothered you with building

[stoic island]

60 grand for the HE 1

koss is a company

[outer zodiac]

oh okay

[earnest olive]

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0764MRM34 wow insane deal

[serene pulsar]

LOL

[stoic island]

lmao

[earnest olive]

absolute must buy

[still roost]

Core#3719 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[outer zodiac]

ooops, but a must buy haha

[serene pulsar]

I’m doing Ryzen 9 5900 build

[stoic island]

@outer zodiac but do you want mic or no mic

[outer zodiac]

i have a i5 9600k

no mic

[stoic island]

usual terminology is headset = headphones+mic

[outer zodiac]

i have one already just need headphones

[serene pulsar]

So I can’t tell if I want extra fans with Lian Li O11 XL or td500

[stoic island]

aight

[earnest olive]

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01KV3BB0S this looks pretty good

[serene pulsar]

Gonna need good temp

[earnest olive]

$130 on sale for $77

[little osprey]

Not bad

[stoic island]

are you okay with on-ears or clip ons

[earnest olive]

sennheiser knows how to make really comfortable headphones

[little osprey]

post in #tech-deals maybe

[analog hearth]

Sennheiser > anything else

[outer zodiac]

on ears

[little osprey]

yeah i love my hd559s lol

[earnest olive]

been using my hd598se for 5 years

[little osprey]

over ear is

[outer zodiac]

right

[stoic island]

I have what is basically a Sennheiser game one, is nice but out of budget

[earnest olive]

it has a mic but you could just not use it

[analog hearth]

I got my HD 450BT about a year ago with no issues

[stoic island]

lemme check canadian amazon for koss stuff

[earnest olive]

backup mic if your yeti decides to stop working

[stoic island]

70cad for porta pros isn't bad
https://www.amazon.ca/DROP-Massdrop-Porta-Pro-Headphones/dp/B08512VZ47/

ur40 price is weird

[little osprey]

Not many people like porta pros tho

[earnest olive]

those look strange

[little osprey]

ur40 usually really cheap

[serene pulsar]

Can td500 handle Ryzen 9 5900 build with limited fan room

[stoic island]

porta pros sound nice

[little osprey]

sound nice look ugly asf

[earnest olive]

i wanna see someone wearing that lol

[earnest olive]

sure why not

[little osprey]

td500 is pretty big isnt it

[earnest olive]

yeah it's definitely on the large side for a traditional case

[little osprey]

WHat.

[stoic island]

50cad for ur40 is kinda steep

[little osprey]

it used to be like 34 usd

[stoic island]

it used to be 20usd*

[little osprey]

o

[stoic island]

they were on sale for pretty cheap at one point

[earnest olive]

so school technically started for me today

[stoic island]

30$ atm

[earnest olive]

i'm taking 3 classes

[stoic island]

how's school going

[earnest olive]

one professor still has made no attempt to contact us

[stoic island]

ah fun

free time

[little osprey]

So I was asking if building a gaming pc or a content creation pc like for streaming n stuff would suck if I used rgb or water cooling

[stoic island]

the price would suck

rgb or watercooling on it's own doesn't affect performance

[little osprey]

Ok that’s what I was wondering and yes unfortunately the price sucks lol

[stoic island]

If you have 1000$ to spend, and you spend 200$ on rgb, that means you're only getting a 800$ computer in terms of performance, yaknow.

[little osprey]

But I’m not buying it yet I work full time so I’ll be saving up for it

And I wanna build it so I’ve been looking up lots of YouTube tutorials and I gotta figure out how I’m gonna move the wires n stuff

[earnest olive]

simple solution

increase budget by cost of rgb

[stoic island]

moving the wires is simple

as long as you

[serene pulsar]

Td500 come with good annual?

Manual*

[stoic island]

usually all the documentation you need is motherboard manual

afterall, you plug everything into the motherboard, directly or indirectly

[serene pulsar]

Cause I got no idea how to manage wires or what goes on what

Oh okay gotcha

I don’t get in videos how the stuff just clicks on to the case or motherboard

It’s satisfying

[stoic island]

like case documentation will tell you where the fan wires are, but the motherboard documentation will tell you where you plug those wires into, yaknow.

[serene pulsar]

They probably do all the behind the scenes and then show the easy part

[stoic island]

ram is usually the most satisfying

[serene pulsar]

Is it literally just clicking on

Or more

[stoic island]

I mean

this is a 20min build guide with iirc no cuts
https://youtu.be/YySa723VD2Y

sure it's a bit old but still works

[serene pulsar]

Nice

Appreciate it

Td500 got 3 reviews 4.5 stars bruh

[stoic island]

like just ignore any mention of ddr3

[serene pulsar]

😫

I don’t normally pay attention to reviews

But only 3 buys?

[stoic island]

37 ratings 4.5 star average on pcpp

not everyone leaves reviews

5108 ratings 4.5 star average on amazon

523 ratings 4 wegg average on wegg

[earnest olive]

not many people bother to leave reviews on pcpp

since in order to do so you have to make a verified build post

like I personally account for half the reviews on some parts cause I log every build I do as a journal kinda thing

[stoic island]

you do?

huh

oh wait

you mean put the review in a build post yea

[earnest olive]

yeah you gotta submit pictures and part list and pcpp mods have to verify it

[stoic island]

thought pcpp had like verified creators or smth xD

[earnest olive]

lol

I should be one then

I've posted 35 builds on it

[stoic island]

I'll apply but prob not get it

I've posted exactly 1 build

[earnest olive]

never got more than 20 magic internet points on one tho

sad

[stoic island]

sad

also

Newegg should give every techie in this discord eggxpert >:P

This thing
https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/what-is-the-newegg-eggxpert-review-program/

[earnest olive]

lmao I'm down

[stoic island]

tho, it does actually send products, sooooo

[earnest olive]

ive only been sponsored one free ram kit

I'll take more

[stoic island]

prob gonna be really hard to join

[earnest olive]

let me petition Natalie

[stoic island]

lmao

[little osprey]

how to join

[stoic island]

The Newegg EggXpert Review Program is by invitation only.

[little osprey]

Ye are there like requirements to get invited

[jolly kindle]

So awhile back I asked about help for my b450 booting with a R5 5000, there was no boot so I bought a beater cpu, and do you think it could boot enough to let me update my bios?

[stoic island]

they're just choosen

[jolly kindle]

Just enough to get it booted and update bios

[stoic island]

prob could

[jolly kindle]

I think it can

Thank you

[stoic island]

but also

pretty sure amd has a program that sends you one for free

lemme find it again

at the bottom
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

the "Short Term Processor Loan Boot Kit" section

[little osprey]

You need to have owned a ryzen 3xxx cpu tho

i think

and have photos of s/n etc

[stoic island]

the one for 5000 series is same thing
https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-105

[fossil cedar]

Pretty sure you could still buy an athalon 3000g for like 50$

[serene pulsar]

These Lian Li O11 Dynamic builds are making me crazy

Some of these people are doing this tube stuff like what in the world

[stoic island]

hardline custom loops

[fossil cedar]

I'd rather custom loop in a p500a or something tbf but just me

[little osprey]

yeah

not a huge fan of o11

[little osprey]

So.

I have a 256gb nvme

My dad has a 512gb nvme

i’m thinking of switching them

is it as easy as cloning the nvmes to a hard drive and cloning it to the swapped one?

[inland parrot]

does the b560 work well with intel i5

[little osprey]

Yes, which generation

[stoic island]

B560 works with 10th and 11th gen

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vrhmP6/intel-core-i5-10400f-29-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8070110400f

[stoic island]

Yes

[little osprey]

Yup

[inland parrot]

k

[little osprey]

10400F doesn’t have igpu, keep that in mind

F means no igpu

[inland parrot]

my brother does not plan on over clocking so

[little osprey]

?

[inland parrot]

lol

is this a good motherboard Asus PRIME B560-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard

[stoic island]

Grab the b560m pro vdh for like 120$

B560-plus disabled m.2_1 with 10th gen when pro vdh doesn't

[inland parrot]

so the msi b560m pro

[stoic island]

Pro vdh

Not just the pro

The b560m pro only has 2 ram slots

Pro vdh has 4

[inland parrot]

oh

@stoic island you know my first build with the msi b550 a pro motherboard, it running very well

[stoic island]

Neat

[inland parrot]

yup, so I took some stuff from my build to add to this build that I am making right now for someone https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27cwdD

[stoic island]

ehh

[little osprey]

So can anyone help with my nvme thing

[stoic island]

would change cooler

[little osprey]

can i just clone drives and call it a day

[stoic island]

sn550 1tb is cheaper @inland parrot

I mean, that'd be annoying

[little osprey]

How else would i be able to do it tho

[stoic island]

@inland parrotand A-GF 750w is cheaper

you just need a computer that can fit 3 drives

boot of the one you don't care about

and clone from one drive to the next

[little osprey]

ye

i have one m.2 and 2 sata rn

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FwMsDc what about this

[stoic island]

I'd just grab 1tb sn550

change the psu to a-gf 750w

and change to cooler to like se-224-xt

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dcZpCz

Only reason i kept the sn750 was because it was cheaper by like 7$ than sn550

But I'd rather 1tb sn550

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rs69kX

[fossil cedar]

Why do you keep changing suggestions ?

[inland parrot]

because I am not doing water cooling

[stoic island]

what

se-224-xt is an air cooler

[fossil cedar]

Also the list i did has better hdd and psu

[fathom tiger]

anybody got any thoughts on my build, first timer here lol https://newegg.io/37eaf7c

[next agate]

So I installed my new 3080 I got from the shuffle and this is happening every 20-30 seconds or so

Hmm guess you can’t send videos in here

but every 20-30 seconds the monitors will go black for about a second and then come back on

Any ideas what could be the cause

[potent portal]

Probably want a 850W power supply just in case, power spikes are high on that GPU
I assume you picked that case for looks but solid front panels are bad for airflow
980 pro is totally unnecessary, P31 Gold actually performs better doing everything except sequential read/write
Probably want liquid cooling on the 5800X. Trust me, it gets HOT.

[stoic island]

Wouldn't really do just a u9s for a 5800x, hawt chip, would go the step further and either grab a higher end air cooler like say d15 or drp4 or grand macho kinda thing, or AIO like a freezer ii, galahad, or ek-aio. hdd just seems overpriced considering smth like a x300 4tb for 100$, gen 4 SSD doesn't really do much for the usual user over say a P31 or even sn550, MWE Gold is a decent PSU, but you could just grab something like a Revolution D.F. 850w for a better PSU and higher wattage rating for 125$, the case isn't great for performance, would grab smth more like a td500 mesh or p500a or similar. Motherboard is interesting, would change to some average b550 board with flashback as x570 doesn't offer much more than x570 for the average user. Ram is a bit weird, might be able to run 1:1 with IF at 4000mt/s, if you could, great, it'll work fine, but otherwise, you'll probably want to run the ram at like 3800c16 and set it up manually. GPU is GPU, if you can get it for a decent price, great.

[stoic island]

drivers? xmp on? cable?

[next agate]

should i uninstall my old drivers, i was using an RX 5700

[stoic island]

yes

[next agate]

ok

[eager flower]

it is 720w

750w

[hallow glen]

help installing vetroo v5 cooler fan?

idk how to do it

im prob dumb

[stoic island]

it should just be clips

[hallow glen]

ik

idk how to install them

[stoic island]

you grab the clips, put the pointy ends through the holes on the corners of the fan

do that for both sides of the fan

kinda just do this
https://youtu.be/OgRC6AzYhsY?t=110

noctua superiority

[hallow glen]

OOOOHHH

ok

which side needs to be out @stoic island

[stoic island]

either works

just make sure the fan is blowing air through the heatsink

[hallow glen]

YES

thank you

:love\

my ram is too high @stoic island what do i do

[stoic island]

move fan up

[hallow glen]

wdym

[stoic island]

you know you clip the fan into some of the fins

clip it into higher fins

[hallow glen]

unscrew it?

oh

[flint sapphire]

Mr1111 blowing peoples minds

[stoic island]

yes

[flint sapphire]

I’m just here to say, the noctua torx screwdriver isn’t that great

[stoic island]

I like Noctua screwdriver

it's long

it's nice for getting into places

[flint sapphire]

[hallow glen]

@stoic island which outlets are the fan hub

[stoic island]

?

[hallow glen]

on mobo

plug fan in

[stoic island]

usually labeled like cpu_fan

for the cooler

[hallow glen]

what about rgb

[stoic island]

rgb or argb

[hallow glen]

uhh

[stoic island]

vetro is argb

[hallow glen]

ok

so

what plugs

[stoic island]

3 pin, there's various names for argb

[hallow glen]

rgb_header?

[stoic island]

argb, drgb, aura strip or smth

rgb and argb are different things

rgb is 12v 4 pin

[hallow glen]

ok

[stoic island]

argb is 5v 3 pin

[hallow glen]

lemme look on mobo manual

go to tenth page: https://gzhls.at/blob/ldb/b/6/b/9/3fd1fd65701989802f3fd69963c554aa955c.pdf I dont see argb @stoic island am i blind

wait

is it add_gen2

it has the same pins

i plugged it in

im just gonna see what happens

[stoic island]

sounds about right

[hallow glen]

oh yeah and thanks @stoic island you were great when I was planning my pc

[stoic island]

you're welcome

[hallow glen]

and now im building it 🙂

[stoic island]

nice

[red dragon]

@stoic island you know any guides on good cable management?

[restive halo]

can someone tell me how to fix the issue with this build in PC Picker?

[stoic island]

you just kinda do it

cable management is just

you do it your way

[red dragon]

Bro you telling me to be creative

And make art

[restive halo]

yes

[desert gulch]

Mr1 is a guide

[stoic island]

because most people don't care

stuff it in the back and leave it

if you want to manage it

[desert gulch]

Send a pic here and we will Microsoft paint it

[stoic island]

manage it your way

:p

[desert gulch]

And tell you what to do if you want

But just take ur time doing it

And it'll look good

[red dragon]

What a beautiful service

[desert gulch]

Yes

[red dragon]

Happy little molex connectors

[earnest olive]

there are generally holes for cable routing near where you need to plug things in

[peak ginkgo]

Good community

[earnest olive]

so just follow those

[restive halo]

@desert gulch Can you tell me how to fix the error at the bottom?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DZbbbh

Will this work?https://www.amazon.com/JoyReken-Internal-Motherboard-Key-Adapter/dp/B08GYFCNK9/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=USB+3.2+Gen+1+to+USB+3.2+Gen+2&qid=1629163252&s=electronics&sr=1-4

[stoic island]

if you want

[earnest olive]

if you aren't going to use the front usb-c you can safely ignore that btw

[restive halo]

Would that piece fix it?

[stoic island]

It's just sacrificing a usb 3.0 header for 3.1 gen 2

[restive halo]

oh ok then nm

[earnest olive]

yeah it would work

your mobo has 2 usb 3 headers

so you wouldn't lose anything

but you also wouldn't gain anything unless you plan to use usb-c devices

[restive halo]

Both our phones are usc c

[stoic island]

there's a usb-c connector on the back too

[calm pecan]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6V2L3Z

aswell as 1660 super

i’m on a budget guys btw

[languid nimbus]

I can’t remember if the “M” series Corsair psu is the bad one or not

[stoic island]

mx 410 mesh g rgb might be a better option
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ZT4BD3/cougar-mx410-mesh-g-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-mx410-mesh-g-rgb

[stoic island]

tx-m is great

cx-m is trash

cx is good

[languid nimbus]

Yeaaah that’s it

[stoic island]

cx-f is good

[languid nimbus]

Isn’t it due to coil whine?

[stoic island]

cx-m is coil whine and bad quality components in general, bad voltreg kinda things

[calm pecan]

was this to my build yeh?

[stoic island]

yes

[calm pecan]

oh okay ty

anything u recommend

i’m not like too familiar with pcs and stuff

[stoic island]

rest of it is good

[calm pecan]

i’m thinking of a ryzen 5600x for the cpu

[stoic island]

eh, 5600x+b550m pro vdh wifi or 11400+b560m pro vdh wifi will both work

though 11400 would usually be like 60gbp cheaper

right now 11500 is around 220 gbp with 5600x at 250 gbp, either are fine

[calm pecan]

oh okay

[obsidian wigeon]

id prefer 11400/11500 myself

[calm pecan]

i’ll stick with the intel bro

[obsidian wigeon]

that igpu can come in handy sometimes

[calm pecan]

i can always upgrade

[stoic island]

they said they had a 1660 super so 5600x will still work if it is chosen

[calm pecan]

say i upgraded from a 11400 to a ryzen 7 would i need new mb

[stoic island]

yes

not interchangable

[obsidian wigeon]

you won't need to upgrade for a while tbh

[calm pecan]

oh rite ok

[obsidian wigeon]

but ye

[calm pecan]

yeh like i just kinda wanna play new games and stuff i’m on Ps5 as of now

[stoic island]

se-224-xt is good, pro vdh wifi is good, ballistix is good, sn550 is good, tx-m is good.

[calm pecan]

Sir i’m not even gonna lie to u, but i’m hella confused sorry

[obsidian wigeon]

he's talking about cooler, mobo, ram, ssd then psu in that order

[calm pecan]

okay thanks for dumbing that down for me lmao

[stoic island]

if you grab a 5600x, you'll have to change motherboard to b550m pro-vdh wifi

[calm pecan]

i didn’t make that budget build btw my friend did

[stoic island]

amd and intel chips use different boards

they did p good

[calm pecan]

ohhhhh rite okay okay

[stoic island]

just 4000d kinda overrated

[calm pecan]

do u reckon i could play gta role play at a decent rate or nah

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

more than enough actually

[calm pecan]

i told my friend to add that actually cos i liked the case n a guy called pato told me it was good

for air flow

[stoic island]

it's decent

but mx410 mesh g rgb kinda gives you more fans for cheaper

saves monies

[calm pecan]

okay so just buy all that stuff then get that 1660 super

[stoic island]

gives more fans

win-win

[restive halo]

posted in wrong chat.

What would this build be able to run?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3Vkp2

[stoic island]

interesting psu

but 5600g is what it is

[restive halo]

its actuly a 550 i just got for 50

[stoic island]

vega 11 is what it is

[obsidian wigeon]

5600g needs some speedy ram to shine for its igpu

3000 sure is bottleneckin the igpu

[restive halo]

3600

[stoic island]

ballistix 3600c16 would be neat

it's a good igp, but don't expect too much from it

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

it could do like 1080p low in many games

iirc

[stoic island]

@restive halo benchmarks here
https://youtu.be/KycNI1FxIPc

[restive halo]

its not for me I am building it as a give away to someone who needs it or cant afford one lol

So im trying to budget but still able to game something you know

[obsidian wigeon]

it's still able to game for sure

as long as ram is good enough

[restive halo]

will that ram work @obsidian wigeon

trying to stay 600

[calm pecan]

so u reckon i buy all them parts apart from change case?

[stoic island]

well, 11400 is out of stock right now

11500 works too

case is ok but mx 410 mesh g rgb can be better

[calm pecan]

ok ty i have like £80 in my savings account rn so i need more £

[calm pecan]

@stoic island what cpu liquid cooler would u recommend?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/fLFKHx/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-v2-6559-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a18pc-r2

this?

[obsidian wigeon]

nah that's not a good one

arctic liquid freezer ii would be good

[calm pecan]

any good budget ones? or just stick with fans

[obsidian wigeon]

but for your setup

you don't need aio

just go with air

[calm pecan]

oh okay ty

just stick with the fans i already had in?

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

[calm pecan]

any good cases that r white?

[obsidian wigeon]

i like 4000d myself

so i'd say keep it like that xd

[calm pecan]

okay ty

when do u think the 11400 will be back in stock?

[obsidian wigeon]

i honestly dunno

it's popular af

[restive halo]

Looking for a $400-$600 budget gaming build with upgrade path that I can do a give away with anyone able to do a parts list?

[calm pecan]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

this is actually what im aiming to build

including a 1660

but u can change the 11400 to 11500 if u like

or change the cpu to ryzen but you’ll need to change the motherboard aswell bro

[restive halo]

looking to build by end of next month so gpu might not work

[calm pecan]

u could try a 1650ti

i’ve found 1660supers on Ebay for about 220-240 but Ebay is always a risk

[restive halo]

is that still in the budget?

[calm pecan]

tbh bro idk

[restive halo]

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3Vkp2

[obsidian wigeon]

well

1660s for that price is hard to find in the us

uk is possible

[restive halo]

could I get it to 3600 ram and that build work?

[calm pecan]

yeh it should do

[calm pecan]

i’m Uk that’s prob why i found them 1660s for that price

[restive halo]

What could that set up run?

[calm pecan]

i don’t currently own a pc so idk

[calm pecan]

this i linked i’ve been told could run Gta at a good rate

but that’s including a 1660

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah like mr1111 said, 5600g would be decent with 3600 ram

with upgrades like a dgpu later on

it'll be decent

[restive halo]

ok Ill but the parts then. Thank you all

[calm pecan]

u said you was doing a give away? is that with that pc?

[restive halo]

Yes

[calm pecan]

can i like be entered into it?

[desert gulch]

give us the real link

that just sends you to blank page

[calm pecan]

idk why it’s not working mate

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

omg sordy

sorry

i was doing wrong link my bad bro

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6V2L3Z

@desert gulch @restive halo

@restive halo that’s what i’m building sorry i didn’t realise the link didn’t work

[desert gulch]

nice build, itll work great

[calm pecan]

thanks

how much are 11400 usually?

are they around 200ish

it’ll cost me around £900

cos i have to get peripherals and the gpu and cpu

i don’t have the money for that atm lol

[restive halo]

Yes as soon as I get it completed

[calm pecan]

okay ty bro

[restive halo]

@obsidian wigeon @stoic island How about this?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0733B98Q1/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd suggest 3600 more than 3200 tbh

But that's doable I guess

[restive halo]

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-Gaming-Epic-X-3600MHz-Desktop/dp/B08T6MRH39/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?

Is this better?

[obsidian wigeon]

meh

it's c18

[restive halo]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

should be c16 tbh

[keen plover]

can anyone here assist me with pc question

thank u

[obsidian wigeon]

just ask the question

[keen plover]

i have a omen gaming laptop specs are rtx 2060 100 watt 10750h 16gb 2933mhz 300hz screen 1tb ssd and someone wants to trade me a desktop with a r7 2700x, 5600xt, 16gb 3600mhz ram, 512gb sata ssd, along with an aoc 144hz monitor should i do it?

it has stock wraith prism cooler and a phantom d2 5600xt

and a b550 pro mother board

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

well if you're willing to sacrifice portability

then sure

[keen plover]

portability is no longer a priority for me but is this trade an upgrade?

[obsidian wigeon]

in a few ways

cpu is not much of an upgrade afaik

[keen plover]

but with the b550 i can upgrade to 5600x

[obsidian wigeon]

if you have the money yeah

but 5600x will need cooler upgrade too

what's the case?

[keen plover]

i noticed his average fps in rainbow six siege was 308fps and mine was 368fps

let me find case

it isnt a great one i know that

[obsidian wigeon]

2700x is faster in multi core

but is slower in single

that matters more for games

[keen plover]

yes but the 2060m gettting sooo much more

2060m is similar to desktop 1660 super no?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[keen plover]

and 5600xt is basically desktop 2060 give or take

[obsidian wigeon]

it's more sidegrade

so eh

i really would not myself

[keen plover]

why not

[obsidian wigeon]

you actually might be losing fps in games

[keen plover]

at lower settings

i have been worried ab bf2042

at ultra i will scrape 60

[obsidian wigeon]

you won't lose perf if you upgrade cpu

so hmm

it may be worth it

but the ssd is downgrade lol

[keen plover]

i just figured this would be like upgrading to a desktop 2060

[still roost]

skinni#6460 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[keen plover]

i has a crappy psu too i think

[obsidian wigeon]

which psu?

if it has crappy one you may need to replace that too, unfortunately

[keen plover]

aresgame 600w

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

that's a bomb

[vague oracle]

Nevermind I was about to say it’s not a terrible idea until I saw that ied

[keen plover]

case is a montech not sure of the model

[obsidian wigeon]

if the case is any decent, i would consider

[vague oracle]

Montech cases aren’t that bad

[obsidian wigeon]

but montech sometimes could do bad cases

[keen plover]

what is uid

[vague oracle]

It’s a joke about the psu

Aresgame PSUs are known to blow up

[keen plover]

front of case is mesh with 3 fans

ugly but looks functional

[obsidian wigeon]

the upgrades you'll need are

cpu and psu

then you'll be good

[vague oracle]

PSU is fairly cheap like 100-150

[keen plover]

dang

seems like not worth the trade

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[vague oracle]

Yeah

[keen plover]

just tired of this 94 degree cpu temps

[obsidian wigeon]

5600x is like 250-299

add a psu in and it gets erm

[keen plover]

even with undervolt

[obsidian wigeon]

kinda expensive

[vague oracle]

Like $400

Maybe $450

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[keen plover]

what about maybe 3700x

or 3600x

[obsidian wigeon]

not much upgrade

the build ain't worth

[vague oracle]

^

[obsidian wigeon]

cause the psu is the sore point

[keen plover]

its that bad huh

why do they even make them

[vague oracle]

Because money

And TikTok seems to love them

[obsidian wigeon]

crappy products exists cause people buys em

well they keep paying influencers

[vague oracle]

True

[obsidian wigeon]

especially ones who has no idea

they just throw em a psu and go "ok say this is good and you'll get paid"

[vague oracle]

“Here use this in a build and we will pay you the repair cost”

[keen plover]

i had an MWE 650W gold psu but i sold it

[vague oracle]

I don’t think a 65watt PSU would be any good

[obsidian wigeon]

that one's better at least

but depends on which version

[keen plover]

so i should keep the laptop?

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

[keen plover]

ehhh

[obsidian wigeon]

the upgrades you need are expensive

[keen plover]

hate laptop

[vague oracle]

The only one he really needs is the psu

[obsidian wigeon]

better than risking it blowing up

[vague oracle]

Cpu is usable

[keen plover]

i thought 2700x was pretty good

[obsidian wigeon]

it used to be

but not now

[keen plover]

10750h much better i guess

just runs so hot

even with cooling pad

and cool room

the heat of this laptop literally messed up my screen

horizontal lines in my taskbar

[obsidian wigeon]

rip

[vague oracle]

There isn’t much difference in single between the 2700x and 10750h

[obsidian wigeon]

well if it's still under warranty

[vague oracle]

Like the 10750h is only slightly faster

[keen plover]

nope no more warranty

[obsidian wigeon]

might as well claim it

also well, according to cpu-monkey

[keen plover]

hp 1 year screw you

[obsidian wigeon]

10750h is not a bit faster in single

it's a decent chunk, like 20%

[vague oracle]

Really?

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

my math could be wrong

[keen plover]

cpu benchmark website says 7% faster

[obsidian wigeon]

but 2700x is 88% of 10750h's single core perf

[keen plover]

7-15%

[vague oracle]

In cinebench r23 single core it’s 7%

[keen plover]

they seem pretty much even other than mc

ranked similarly in this website

[vague oracle]

Cinebench R20 single core 16% difference

[keen plover]

my laptop did crush his desktop playing siege at low his avg was 308 mine was 370

i just figured with bf2042 coming out the desktop would have more respectable fps at ultra/high

[vague oracle]

With the desktop you’d definitely have better temps

[keen plover]

well let me ask u this

ill atleast get 240fps in comp games anyway

right

[vague oracle]

What games specifically?

[keen plover]

siege, cs,splitgate, val

and the benefit of higher fps at ultra settings maybe 100fps at high in bf2042

[vague oracle]

On siege on 1080p low the 5600xt gets about 212

On high it’s about 160 FPS

[keen plover]

he did the benchmark on discord stream and got 308

[vague oracle]

You sure it’s a 5600xt?

[keen plover]

yeah he streamed task manager and showed me the card

i have a 2060m and avg across all maps is like 250-270

siege is werid cuz in cs i get way less

[vague oracle]

Ahh that’s good then

CS is mostly cpu bound and it doesn’t help that your cpu might’ve been throttling

[keen plover]

i drop to 200 in val and cs often but in siege i dont even come close to 200

i thought well hey 5600xt is basically 2060 desktop performance and 2060 desktop is much better than my 100w mobile chip, sure 2700x is slower in single core but at higher graphics when the gpu is doing more the cpu is getting hotter in my laptop and throttling more so i would benefit from the destop in neweer titles at higher settings

and im sure with 2700x and 5600xt ill get 200+ in competitve games, but now i found out the psu is very bad so idk

[earnest olive]

10750h should do much better in esports than 2700x as long as it's not burning

or being choked by like 2133c15 single channel ram or something

it's more about the latency than the single core

[little osprey]

Anyone here into the used x79/x99 market? Specifically the chinese "x79" and "x99" boards

[obsidian wigeon]

they work for many xeons at least

[wintry tide]

hey everyone, which one is better in your opinion, the B550-A or the B550 Aorus Pro?

[inland parrot]

Which one

[fossil cedar]

Aourus pro I'd say

[fossil cedar]

Depends on your budget/rest of parts

[inland parrot]

I have the b550 a pro and it amazing even has flash bios

What will you consider this bottleneck Ryzen 5 5600x with Geforce 1060

[fossil cedar]

A 1060 will do fine for the moment until the shortage dies down ye

But don't worry bout bottlenecks

All systems have bottlenecks

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6FBXDc

[fossil cedar]

You have this atm?

[frank stirrup]

pro

[little osprey]

What mobo should i pair with a gtx 1650 and fx8350

[stoic island]

An am3+ board because fx8350 is old

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't buy an fx8350

Much rather get a i3 10100 and h410 motherboard

[inland parrot]

its the one I want to build for my brother

[fossil cedar]

Oh yeah eh would not recommend, what's the budget?

I'll fix you up a better list

[inland parrot]

sure

i want pair it with the 3600

[fossil cedar]

Why

The 3600 is stupidly overpriced now

What's the budget tho?

[inland parrot]

600-900

[fossil cedar]

Without gpu I'm assuming?

[inland parrot]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

Okey

Do you have a gpu?

And what gpu you want to pair? 3070

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XLC7QD assuming you already have the gpu

[inland parrot]

k

I am try this list

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PgTG9N

If you don't have a gpu yet

[inland parrot]

will i be able to play 4k easily with the i5

[fossil cedar]

Ye

Gpu is the issue at 4k

[inland parrot]

k

[fossil cedar]

Why would you even wanna do 4k

Do 1440p

Then you don't need a 3080+

[jagged ember]

4k gaming is dum

1440p is where it's at lol

Especially for the gpu price

[inland parrot]

i agree tbh, it only like 10fsp more i think

[jagged ember]

I'm not gonna notice more detail when I'm dying in apex so

Not important to me

[fossil cedar]

Huh? 4k is harder to run..... You'll get less fps

You not a pretty large monitor for 4k to be worth imo

Also the monitor is gonna cost like 2x m27q

[jagged ember]

Oh I thought fsp was a special thing

M27q already v good

[fossil cedar]

Idk i kinda assumed it was a typo

Never heard of fsp for

[peak ginkgo]

Maybe, they meant fps

[jagged ember]

That seems very likely

[quaint oriole]

Anyone know any compatible waterblocks for the Zotac 3060 Ti?? This was the only card I could get at the time but I had no idea manufacturers don’t typically make waterblocks for Nvidia XX60 series gpu

[fossil cedar]

Which zotac 3060 ti, twin edge or amp

[quaint oriole]

Twin Edge OC

[fossil cedar]

Yeah can't seem to find one, is there a reason you wanna do a custom loop anyway?

[quaint oriole]

Just for the aesthetics and I think building my own loop would be really fun

[fossil cedar]

Ahh well seems like you'll be stuck with Amazon/Ali express blocks then idk what the quality will be like on those tho

[serene pulsar]

Is Radeon RX 6600 good

[peak ginkgo]

Its good for mining but 3060 destroys it

[obsidian wigeon]

uhm

3060 doesn't destroy it in perf?

it's actually equal iirc

cause 6600xt is same perf as 5700xt

[fast dust]

6600xt is about 15% better than the 3060 according to GN

[marsh kiln]

Person selling this for 600 listed as a high end gaming pc

[fossil cedar]

Well they can't spell check either so

Unless they've got a witch in there pc

[marsh kiln]

Od you think the xbox one could do better then this?

[fossil cedar]

Definitely

I can't even tell if it has 2 970s or 2 260gb ssds lol

[marsh kiln]

@fossil cedar

[obsidian wigeon]

[frank stirrup]

Wot

[marsh kiln]

He pissed me off so I reported him

[obsidian wigeon]

the cocky sellers man

[fossil cedar]

Severe shortage of b550s

Bruh and they attack you 🤣

[marsh kiln]

Yea

And I said no I do dip @@@@ and I can build a computer in like a hour and they said anyone can once you do it for the first time it like legos

[still roost]

Night380#2067 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[marsh kiln]

For dumb people

[obsidian wigeon]

just ignore him really, if he's firm with 600

[marsh kiln]

Yea

[obsidian wigeon]

he just tryna excuse shortages

he doesn't have issue with it cause it's used part

people smh

[marsh kiln]

Yea

I hate people that do that kind of thing

Thing they know what they have and what it's worth

[stoic island]

To be fair

There's a slight tpm module shortage

But not chipset shortage

[little osprey]

Windows 11

[peak ginkgo]

Wow, just wow.

[peak ginkgo]

It's just people trying to charge a lot of money for something that didn't cost them a lot to build

[marsh kiln]

Yea

[marsh kiln]

What one is better the silverstone Rl05 or the pm02-G?

[worn wave]

RL05 Looks pretty good with the mesh front panel and comes with 2 front fans

How much is it though

PM02 seems to be pretty good also

PM02 comes with 4 fans which is quite nice

[marsh kiln]

Yea the pm02-g is around 130 the rl05 is around 90

[fossil cedar]

Are you u the the us?

If so I'd go for a p360a, p400a, 4000d airflow or something like that instead

[marsh kiln]

I like the looks of them and yes

[fossil cedar]

I'd favour them

[vague oracle]

Nah go for the Lancool II Mesh

Best case

[fossil cedar]

Yes but more on spensive side

Also i still simp p500a

[peak ginkgo]

Worth it, imo

[vague oracle]

I will always simp for my Lancool II mesh

I can literally feel the airflow out of back/top of it when I put my hand on top of the case

I once put a paper as a joke on it and it hovered

[stoic island]

but can it fit 360mm rad top

[vague oracle]

Bit of duct tape and it will

[fossil cedar]

XD

[vague oracle]

XD

[fossil cedar]

Wait lancool mesh no 360mm top

Smh

Lian li just pushing me with your their cases 😤

[peak ginkgo]

Can't

[stoic island]

exactly

that's why lancool ii mesh isn't as nice >:D

[fossil cedar]

P500a better

https://tenor.com/view/anime-zero-two-cute-smile-nod-gif-13451534

[vague oracle]

But does your P500A have a mesh flap that you can put case fans right under you GPU?

[fossil cedar]

Not needed 😎

[stoic island]

but does your lancool ii mesh have a plastic box to sort all the screws?

[vague oracle]

But does your P500A have hinged side panels?

[stoic island]

Yes actually

[vague oracle]

Wait it does?

[stoic island]

product images:

[vague oracle]

Oh uhhhh

Never knew that lol

[stoic island]

@vague oracle GN using it
https://youtu.be/G835LGHpeoI?t=420

The glass panel uses one of the best attachment mechanisms, it's a hinge with magnets to hold it close

[vague oracle]

Oh that’s actually really cool

[frank stirrup]

But is ur p500a as seggsy as a 4000d airflow?

[stoic island]

it's much more

4000d airflow sucks

[frank stirrup]

How dare you

Rood

4000d airflow stock not great for sure

[stoic island]

p500a just looks better

[frank stirrup]

But then you put in p12s

[stoic island]

the look of 4000d airflow is just

[frank stirrup]

Agree to disagree

[stoic island]

box

box? box.

[frank stirrup]

And I like that

[fossil cedar]

P500a hawt

[stoic island]

p500a you get that nice curve

[frank stirrup]

I dont like rounded edges

[vague oracle]

Lancool II Mesh hawtest

[frank stirrup]

Has to be sharp

[stoic island]

I dont like stabbing myself

[frank stirrup]

No pato hawtest

[vague oracle]

Nah that goes to Falcie

[frank stirrup]

Not gonna be a knife my dood

[stoic island]

nah that goes to Naed

[frank stirrup]

Nah that goes to ryan reynolds

[stoic island]

one you can lean on and the other you'll make yourself bleed

simple choice

[vague oracle]

Imagine leaning on a pc

[stoic island]

imagine not having things not poke you

[frank stirrup]

No but why would anyone lean on their pcs

[hallow glen]

My mobo is the b560 prime plus. I cant find where to plug in argb. Does anyone know where to plug it in

[stoic island]

if it's on your desk, if you reach to grab something behind it, you could either get stabbed or not feel anything

[frank stirrup]

Bruh the 4000d airflow isnt made of knives

[hallow glen]

lol

[stoic island]

add_gen 2_1

bottom of board

[hallow glen]

ok

[stoic island]

it's like having rounded edges on your desk vs corners

rounder edges are just nicer

you won't poke yourself if you touch it

[frank stirrup]

I have sharp edges with a tiny amount of rounding

[stoic island]

I'd rather have round

round is nice

[frank stirrup]

Just like the 4000d airflow

[stoic island]

less pain is better

[frank stirrup]

Slight rounding on the edges isnt painful at all

Its less painful in some cases

Like if you turn around and smash ur funny bone into the table

Rounded hurts more

[stoic island]

????????

you're telling me

a rounded edge is gonna hurt more than a pointed edge when you punch it?

[peak ginkgo]

They should call it the “oh f” bone

[frank stirrup]

No when you smash ur funny bone into it

[stoic island]

funny bone is just static bone

rounded is still going to hurt less

[frank stirrup]

As a person who smashes my funny bone all the time rounded hurts more than a flat square table

Unless the edge of the flat table makes contact

In which case u ded

[stoic island]

are we not talking about the edge?

???

[frank stirrup]

No because yes

I should really stop debating at 2 am

I sleep now

Gn

[hallow glen]

when i try to plug it in, its super loose and doesn't stay on and even if I make it stay on, it doesn't light up. Is this an issue with the vetroo?

[stoic island]

good night

is it aligned correctly?

[hallow glen]

yeah

the holes are with the spikes

[hallow glen]

@stoic island do u know? if u dont its ok

[jagged ember]

Where pato

Oh, Mr is here too

[stoic island]

was looking for psu for demonmit