building-and-recc-chat

[frank stirrup]

yes

[fossil cedar]

Think i did when i bought it

[frank stirrup]

You should check

decent perf bump

after update

[fossil cedar]

Okey

@frank stirrup western digital dashboard or acronis true image(i imagine it's a marcium reflect thingy)

[frank stirrup]

dashboard

acronis true image is bad

[fossil cedar]

Yeah figured

[frank stirrup]

it installs an antivirus you cant get rid of and gives the same functionality that macrium gives

[fossil cedar]

Ahh eeww

[fossil cedar]

Firmware up to date according to dashboard

[frank stirrup]

pog!

its updated then

[fossil cedar]

Nice

Btw 13% of my 1tb is used

Not life just storage

100% life span still

@frank stirrup what temp bad for nvme btw

[frank stirrup]

50 is ideal

[fossil cedar]

42-43

Nice

[frank stirrup]

Lel

[fossil cedar]

And I've been mining overnight so

[frank stirrup]

how

just

how

[fossil cedar]

Well still needa install matlab etc which is big ish and i don't play many games ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frank stirrup]

I dont either tbf

[fossil cedar]

Idk just never needed lot of storage

[frank stirrup]

I just like having a ton of extra storage

I dont like deleting stuff

like incase I need it later

Imma install 4 seperate linux based oses later

for the memes

6 os hexaboot

[fossil cedar]

Same but idk i just never have been a heavy storage person

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jvFcwz
Gaming/streaming?/video editing build.
Want to keep AIO and ram.

[frank stirrup]

Bad aio but seems you wanna keep it

Looks OK otherwise

[little osprey]

Capellix isn't that bad

[frank stirrup]

For that price?

Its pretty bad

[little osprey]

It's 360 mm

so

also are gee bee

[frank stirrup]

Lian li galahad beats it

So

Also are gee bee

[little osprey]

huh

[frank stirrup]

Lian li galahad

[tight sorrel]

the price of that 3080ti though...

[frank stirrup]

Is the name of a cooler

[little osprey]

It depends if I can get a gpu in a microcenter

I'm getting some more RGB parts later as well, so RGB build

[frank stirrup]

also I would get ballistix rgb ram

since they are guaranteed to use the same die every time

makes upgrades easy

[little osprey]

I like the gskill tbh

I mean

True

but I want most things to work with aurasync

Instead of icue

[frank stirrup]

ok?

[fossil cedar]

Arctic liquid freezer ii rgb and lian li galahad same price, have rgb and better

[fossil cedar]

Ehh trident z is decent, some ppl like the look of it only 10$ extra over ballistix rgb anyway

[tight sorrel]

Corsair get a lot of things wrong, but their RGB software is by far the best on the market. If I could, I would control everything through icue

[fossil cedar]

Bout the only good thing about corsair fans/aios/ram is their rgb has nice controls

But it's all proprietary

Need like a 100$ hub n crap

[tight sorrel]

yeh

[tight sorrel]

so apparently its not. its some obscure connector format

[tight sorrel]

Their pricing is stupid

[fossil cedar]

It's not 3 pin or 4 pin -> proprietary

Yeah pricing is wack

[tight sorrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/RGBProfiles/comments/fjy1al/you_can_connect_third_party_rgb_strips_to_the/

hmmmm... sweet

[frank stirrup]

ballistix uses the same die tho

gskill is all over the place

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik but they ain't gonna oc it realistically

[frank stirrup]

Dont have to oc

incase more wam is needed

[fossil cedar]

Fair

They clearly just want for looks tho

[little osprey]

Imma get the same kit again eventually so I can not worry about ram ever so I can have SIXHTEE PHOURE GIGHABITYES

[fossil cedar]

32gb is plenty anyway but aight

[little osprey]

I know

lmao

[frank stirrup]

that still doesnt guarantee same die with gskill lol

[little osprey]

ok and

[frank stirrup]

and what lmao

[little osprey]

ok

[uncut pelican]

Agreed

[dense sparrow]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6G7Vc
IS THIS PC BUILD GOOD? IGNORE THE 2 MONITORS AS IM GOING TO CHOOSE 1 IN FUTURE
USING THIS FOR GAMING, RECORDING, EDITING LIKE PREMIERE PRO AND PHOTOSHOP.

ping me when replying to me

[frank stirrup]

@dense sparrow 5/10

maybe 4/10

[dense sparrow]

why

wha-

[frank stirrup]

absolutely horrible cpu cooler tbh

also for editing get a 10700

[dense sparrow]

id get ryzen

what else

[frank stirrup]

10700k is very nice tho lol

or a 10850k

[dense sparrow]

meh

what else

its 4/10

[frank stirrup]

LMFAO

XDDDDD

AHAHAHAHA

WHAT?!

[dense sparrow]

u said its 4/10

i wanna know why

u gave me 2 reason, it should be more

[frank stirrup]

Cooler cpu choice ssd

sn550 beats the sn750

[dense sparrow]

wow man, cpu is bad?

its 5600x

[frank stirrup]

cooler itself knocks off like 3 points

[dense sparrow]

so sn550 500GB beat sn750 1TB?

[frank stirrup]

For the kind of stuff u wanna do? better options are availabe

like a 10700k

or a 10850k

[dense sparrow]

id rather get ryzen

[jagged ember]

Why

[dense sparrow]

cuz

i do

[jagged ember]

Its not good value

Market rn is upside down

[frank stirrup]

Wideus 10700k or 5600x for editing and gaming?

[jagged ember]

Intel is good value now

10700k, I would

[frank stirrup]

exactly

[jagged ember]

Editing doesn't require the multicore

[frank stirrup]

does

premiere pro is multi core aware

[dense sparrow]

getting soon so not rn lol

[jagged ember]

Okay, but they have the same number of cores

[frank stirrup]

add to that intel quick sync or whatever its called

[frank stirrup]

WHAJT

[jagged ember]

Right?

[frank stirrup]

5600x vs 10700k

[tight sorrel]

What are you dediting? video?

[jagged ember]

I'm lazy to check lmao

[frank stirrup]

6 vs 8

[jagged ember]

OH YEAH I FORGOR

[dense sparrow]

just content, meme, gaming

[jagged ember]

REE

TODAY IS NOT MY DAY BYE

[frank stirrup]

10700k absolute pog

[frank stirrup]

u good my g?

[tight sorrel]

may I siggest you look at 1 ultrawide (2560 x 1080) monitor instead of 2 "narrower" ones?

[frank stirrup]

@tight sorrel

read.

[tight sorrel]

ultrawides are much more conducive to timeline editing, is what I feel

[dense sparrow]

im also doing gaming

prob most of the time

[frank stirrup]

10700k is where its at

Absolutely insane price and performance

[tight sorrel]

RAWR is correct

[wheat zinc]

Specs:
CPU - FX-4100 4 core 3.6ghz 3.8ghz boost
Motherboard- GA-78LMT-USB3
GPU- Rx 460 Radeon 2gb GDDR5
RAM- 14gb 3x 4gb Ripjaws 1x 2gb Ripjaws 1333
Storage:
SSD - 120gb
Hard disk - 500gb

Bundled items:
Monitor - HP 22CWA 1080p 60hz
Keyboard- Corsair Vengeance K65 Chery MX Red switches
Mouse- Logitech G203

This is a great build if you are new to PC gaming it meets required specifications for MOST games and recommended specs for some games.

This will not run games at the highest settings but it is a great start to get into PC gaming message me for any questions!

Is this good for 420 dollars

[dense sparrow]

:/

prob run most, but not fps games

[worn wave]

Not really

[dense sparrow]

true

[worn wave]

For $420 you should be able to get a better CPU than a FX-4100

[frank stirrup]

Oh its an absolutely garbage build

Not worth it at all

[vague oracle]

Jeez 14gb of ram?

[peak ginkgo]

No, its not @wheat zinc

[wheat zinc]

Alright is if even worth building a pc in this market

[peak ginkgo]

Not really unless you get lucky and score a modern day GPU at MSRP. You can build the rest of the PC with everything else just the GPUs are hard to find for a good price

[jagged ember]

Meets required specs for most games is straight up a lie

What game lists the fx's as min required anymore

[peak ginkgo]

Right?

[wheat zinc]

Is a geforce 9600 gt modern or outdated?

[jagged ember]

Outdated

[peak ginkgo]

Outdated by a couple generations

[jagged ember]

Modern is 3000 series or 5000 series depending on manufacturer

Or company is more accurate

[vague oracle]

6000*

[jagged ember]

Today really ain't my day

[wheat zinc]

I’m new to pc so the number like would a 980 ti be out dated?

[frank stirrup]

what happened g

[jagged ember]

All the words I say are untrue

[little osprey]

Its a little old but still runs fine

Good for gaming

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wkd3PV
big boy pc

I am not building that btw just got bored

[violet crown]

Trying to set up my new 8 gpu riserless mobo.... but when I'm trying to install a new version bios it doesn't allow it
I updated all gpus to newest bios before installing them into the riserless mobo but when I start up the afterburner it shows they are all in a old version of bios like 17.0.1 or something..

I DDU and tried installing the newest bios but I get this error.... does windows 10 not work om this mobo? Or should I try installing a older bios

[fossil cedar]

Make sure you windows is up to date

[little osprey]

Someone fix my pc the things a spastic

[fossil cedar]

What's wrong with it

[little osprey]

Just feels delayed

[still roost]

Raxism#3600 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

And bad quality

And frame drops

[fossil cedar]

What's your specs

[little osprey]

A 1080, ryzen 5 5600

I’ll find other

ASRock AMD B550M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 motherboard

Corsair vengeance rgb pro (2x8gb) ddr4 3600 mhz ram

Western digital wd blue 500gb 3D nand ssd

Corsair rm550x 550w 80 plus v2 gold fully modular atx power supply

And some liquid cooler

[fossil cedar]

Do you have xmp enabled in the bios

[little osprey]

Ok I am very uneducated with pcs but I think I do

[fossil cedar]

You can check by going into the bios or with cpu z or hwinfo64

[little osprey]

I had a mate tell me some settings to turn on and off when I got it setup

I don’t even know where to find the bios lol

[fossil cedar]

Basically turn off your pc, turn it back on then mash the delete key til you get into the bios

[little osprey]

Great idea

Okay I don’t know how I’ve managed to do that wrong

Is there another way

[fossil cedar]

https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/access-bios-windows-10 follow this

[little osprey]

I am at the bios

Amazing

[fossil cedar]

Okay do you see xmp?

In the memory tab

Probs

[little osprey]

Negative

I don’t even see a memory tab

I do now

“Load xmp setting”

Is that correct

[fossil cedar]

Yep if there 2 profiles hit the one that says 3600

[little osprey]

It says auto

Do I click auto

Woah

There’s auto or

[fossil cedar]

There should be a drop-down

Profile 1

[little osprey]

XMP 2.0 profile 1

[fossil cedar]

Yeh

[little osprey]

Now it’s changed frequency to ddr4 3600

That seems good

[obsidian wigeon]

uh

It wouldn't work if the stick isn't rated for that

But yeah if you have the stick that does that, then it should be fine

[little osprey]

I wouldn’t know

[fossil cedar]

They said they had 3600 ram

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah, that's fine

[little osprey]

👍

[fossil cedar]

Yeah, you hit save and exit?

Then that will make your pc so much better

[little osprey]

Let’s hope so

Thanks

[fossil cedar]

It will

Np

[little osprey]

I will try now and report back

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen loves fast ram

So

It struggles with slow ram

You had it at 2133 which is big bad

[desert gulch]

Oof jedec lol

[little osprey]

Ok

ThT is big bad

[desert gulch]

Very

[little osprey]

Will this like

Make my pc run hotter

Coz I’m still waiting on a part for like all my fans to plug-in to

[fossil cedar]

Nope just be way faster

[little osprey]

Thanks so much

Holly yt

Hollyyyyyy*

So much better

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

Also quick question

[fossil cedar]

Ye?

[little osprey]

My monitor is 144hz, should I have my in game settings at 143, 144 or 160

[jagged ember]

144 or above is fine

[little osprey]

👍

And last question (for now 😹) should I have vsync on if my monitor is freesync

Vsync is different

Freesync is the AMD version of G-sync

Basically just syncs the monitor refresh rate and your game fps with your graphics card

Vsync on the other hand just syncs the refresh rate with your FPS

So at the end of the day vsync is preference?

Vsync is free

its a feature available in most games

Yeah I’m wondering if I should have on or off

If you have it on there will be noticeable input lag

Usually i have vsync on for non-competitive games

Like for forza horizon 4 i have vsync on

But in overwatch i have it off

Yeah I’ll follow on that

Thanks

no problem!

[hidden cradle]

Anyone help me?

[violet crown]

I think I left the windows update running... then I disabled it... so it wouldn't mess with the rig in the future..... I'll try updating it later today

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[tight sorrel]

Huh. Less than 20k. Why does that seem so reasonable for all that gear?

[earnest olive]

might want to put an epilepsy warning on this video

PC is not on? I don't see CPU fan spinning

[worn wave]

Is that motherboard built in RGB flashing?

[little osprey]

Dance party

[fossil cedar]

Not if you have epilepsy

[little osprey]

Seizure party

[serene pulsar]

Anyone know how to build pc with ryzen 9 5900 with budget of 1500

[fossil cedar]

What's the use case?

[serene pulsar]

?

[fossil cedar]

What you wanna use it for?

[serene pulsar]

Gaming. Streaming

[fossil cedar]

You don't need a 5900x

Are you in the us ?@serene pulsar

[serene pulsar]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali475/p/N82E16883360070 get this

[serene pulsar]

If i wanted 4K quality to run smooth on any game don’t you need high

I5????

[fossil cedar]

That's way more graphic card intensive

[serene pulsar]

I already have i5 laptop and it crashes

[fossil cedar]

The higher resolution the lower power the cpu needs to be

Model not brand

The model number is more important

And laptop cpus are completely different

[serene pulsar]

If I got that computer

Would I be able to switch stuff out still

This was original build but it got pricy https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v2Xxwz

[scenic turret]

You kinda need a GPU

[serene pulsar]

Was waiting till cyber Monday

Or when restock occurs

[earnest olive]

this is how little the "i5" designation matters

both of those are i5s

[scenic turret]

Lol

Perfect example

[little osprey]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali475/p/N82E16883360070 this is a steaalll of a pc

[little osprey]

Never get a CPU because it says "i5" or "i7"

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[fossil cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali484/p/N82E16883360079?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1 this if you want a 3070(bit more perf) and a 1tb 660p nvme ssd

[obsidian wigeon]

doing that

[fossil cedar]

Worth for the extra storage+gpu upgrade

[obsidian wigeon]

an amd a10 would be best in that logic

[earnest olive]

these are both i7

[serene pulsar]

Wow that’s big difference

I honestly only looked at intel number

5, 7 9

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, first gen mobile and 11th gen desktop chip

huuuge diff

[earnest olive]

and these are both i3

[fossil cedar]

Model number is VERY important

[serene pulsar]

Looks like it

[fossil cedar]

Also laptops are never as powerful as the desktop counter parts

[serene pulsar]

This could run high quality games?

[earnest olive]

even in i9s

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[serene pulsar]

Can I still switch parts later on

[fossil cedar]

Very well

Yes

[serene pulsar]

Like Cooler and storage

[fossil cedar]

Yep

You can add storage

And change cooler

[serene pulsar]

Don’t know how to do this😂

[fossil cedar]

Wdym ?

[serene pulsar]

I need like a full day of computer building learning seminar

cause I’m clueless about this and feel bad lol

[fossil cedar]

It's fine lol

We all start somewhere

[serene pulsar]

So anymore pro tips for beginner?

[fossil cedar]

Get either of the prebuilts i linked tbh

And you'll be all set for a few years

[serene pulsar]

You think those could run CoD and Valorant?

[fossil cedar]

Definitely

[serene pulsar]

If you happen to find any more you’d recommend if you wouldn’t mind DMing me 🙂

[fossil cedar]

Just when you go into obs, set it to nvenc encoding instead of h264

[vast cosmos]

11th gen is pretty bad tho

Especially i9s

[fossil cedar]

Pretty much only the i9s

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

The i7 aint too bad anymore

[obsidian wigeon]

i9s are the only bad ones to buy

[vast cosmos]

I have an i9 lol that's why

[obsidian wigeon]

in this gen

[fossil cedar]

And the i5s are great

[vast cosmos]

My friend has the 11th gen

I have 10th

[fossil cedar]

It's not bad just bead value

Even tho it does sometimes use to last gen i9 lol

[vast cosmos]

Not really it's worse than 10th gen except for single core kinda

2 less cores 4 less threads

[fossil cedar]

The i5s are great

[vast cosmos]

And the oc isn't goldy

God

[obsidian wigeon]

i9 10th gen ran super hot

[vast cosmos]

Unless you want like insane world record

[obsidian wigeon]

They had to return to less cores, pretty sad

[fossil cedar]

Yeah the i9 11900 should never be bought lol

[vast cosmos]

Not really mine stays under 30-35 ifle

[obsidian wigeon]

well load

[vast cosmos]

Idle

[fossil cedar]

Idle means nothing

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[vast cosmos]

Load its not above 60

Sometimes 70

[vague oracle]

Idle is pretty much your room’s ambient temp

[obsidian wigeon]

well if you don't have the cooling to back it up

[vast cosmos]

If I'm like running 5.4 all core

[obsidian wigeon]

it's hot relative to other chips

tho ryzen 5000 series is also hot lmao

[vast cosmos]

Meh maybe I just have a good cooler

I have a thicc boi aio

[fossil cedar]

Idle temps only really have to do with your fan curves and ambient temp and what stuff is running in the background while idle

[vast cosmos]

Yeah it's under 70 always on load with 5.4 ghz oc

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but what cooler?

[earnest olive]

ryzen runs hotter despite lower power draw

heat density higher

i pushed 265W on 6 core intel cpu and saw 80c all core in prime95 with a bottom of the barrel 240mm aio

meanwhile 142W on my ryzen 7 5800x sees 90c with galahad 360

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen 5000 toasty bois

[earnest olive]

even in light gaming i see it creep up to 65C

[wicked frigate]

Guys what do you guys recommend me use to get off the old thermal paste

[little osprey]

Isopropyl alcohol

[wicked frigate]

And

Like what to wipe it off

The old thermal paste

[vague oracle]

I lick it off

Jk I just use a lint free cloth

[serene pulsar]

My friend keeps saying what’s so good about this computer @fossil cedar

[obsidian wigeon]

q tips works too

but it's slower

damn, imagine doubting pato

couldn't be me

[serene pulsar]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali484/p/N82E16883360079?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=1

Well I just don’t know how to respond

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks meh but it works pretty well

[serene pulsar]

He said the pc tower case is very bad

[obsidian wigeon]

see

that's the problem with looks it seems

the case is fine tbh

has some intake for the front on the sides

shouldn't be too bad

[wicked frigate]

How about paper tower to first wipe it off

Than q tips???

[serene pulsar]

I mean now I know that model number is more important

So should I still look to build one

But without needing fancy ryzen 9 stuff

[fossil cedar]

Price, good build quality, will run games like a beast, don't have to hunt for a gpu and it comes built for you lol

[fossil cedar]

Power towell also workd

[fossil cedar]

Nah it will be more expensive and you'll have to hunt for a gpu to get similar/more expensive pc but same perf

[serene pulsar]

Oh alright

[wicked frigate]

Also

Would 91% iso work

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[wicked frigate]

@fossil cedar

Would this be good enough

Should I wipe it off after I used q tips with iso

[obsidian wigeon]

not really

q tips with iso is enough

also 91% is plenty

[fossil cedar]

There's still stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

below that is well, gonna take time to dry

i have 70%, off the shelf stuff

[fossil cedar]

You want to get as much stuff off as possible

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

[wicked frigate]

Wait so

Can I put pressure

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[wicked frigate]

So I can rub it off

[fossil cedar]

91% is basically instant to try tbf foxy

Ye

[wicked frigate]

Also

[obsidian wigeon]

it can take a lot of pressure

[wicked frigate]

What type of cloth

[obsidian wigeon]

dw about it

[wicked frigate]

Any??

[obsidian wigeon]

lint free types

[wicked frigate]

I just don’t want to destroy the cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

you dont want lint there

micro fiber is fine

[fossil cedar]

Just use paper towel

[wicked frigate]

I hat aboitnmicro fiber

[obsidian wigeon]

or that

[wicked frigate]

Micro fiber

[obsidian wigeon]

paper towel is fine too

[wicked frigate]

Wait paper towel

With iso

[obsidian wigeon]

yah

[fossil cedar]

If you get thermal paste on a cloth it aint coming out

[obsidian wigeon]

just dip it in iso

[wicked frigate]

K

[fossil cedar]

Use paper towel instead

[obsidian wigeon]

oh yeah i forgot lmao

[wicked frigate]

But the paper shouldn’t be that wet

Am I correct

[obsidian wigeon]

micro fiber+paste = hell

it can be soaked if you bundle it up

[fossil cedar]

It's fine just use a dab of alcohol

[obsidian wigeon]

but not too wet is good

so that it won't come off in pieces

[wicked frigate]

K

[obsidian wigeon]

tbh even ethyl alcohol works

but iso is optimal

all i have is ethyl 70%

[wicked frigate]

How about that

Are the most I can do

I put pressure on it to take off as much as I could

I did it three times with iso

[obsidian wigeon]

That's clean now

[wicked frigate]

@obsidian wigeon

Can u tell me if this is clean enough

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah it's definitely plenty xD

[obsidian wigeon]

No need to worry

[wicked frigate]

That

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh that

Yeah that's fine

[wicked frigate]

Or should I do little more

[obsidian wigeon]

It's just it fading from age

[wicked frigate]

Just in case

Yah

[obsidian wigeon]

You can move on

[wicked frigate]

Ok wait I’ll ping u when ready if that’s fine

[obsidian wigeon]

sure

I might sleep by then but let's see

[wicked frigate]

Ok

@obsidian wigeon

Thermal paste is still coming off

Should I still clean or is that ok

[obsidian wigeon]

Huh

Well if you want, I suppose

I wouldn't worry much but sure

[wicked frigate]

Is this good

[obsidian wigeon]

if you can't see anymore paste come out

it should be good

[wicked frigate]

Oh ok

Than what

So I can leave u alone lol

[obsidian wigeon]

What are you planning to do?

[wicked frigate]

Like how much thermal paste

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah

[wicked frigate]

Putting it back

[obsidian wigeon]

Decently sized dot should be fine

Just show me the pic I guess

I actually don't have much experience with desktop chips about repasting lmao

I'm used to a small line on laptop dies

[wicked frigate]

@obsidian wigeon

I put it in middle of the cpu

Right

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

So that it spreads evenly

[wicked frigate]

K I a sour to do it I’ll send pic

[obsidian wigeon]

kk

[wicked frigate]

???

[obsidian wigeon]

that's enough

[wicked frigate]

K

Now just put cooler on top

Right

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[wicked frigate]

K thx

[obsidian wigeon]

yw

[delicate plume]

Do I need my 4 pin cpu connector plugged in? I already have an 8 pin in.

[obsidian wigeon]

What cpu do you have?

[stoic island]

extra 4 pin is extra for 99% of cases

[obsidian wigeon]

However ^

Just plug it in for safety

[stoic island]

safety...?

[obsidian wigeon]

If you want that is lol

[stoic island]

There's no need for that for safety

[obsidian wigeon]

I misread your message

Tired brain

[stoic island]

yeye

unless you're doing crazy oc

prob won't need it

[delicate plume]

Ryzen 7 3700x

@obsidian wigeon

No overclocking

[lyric thistle]

What about pbo

[earnest olive]

the extra 4 pin will never ever be necessary on a ryzen system unless you're doing LN2 5950x

on intel unless LN2 the only time you'll need it is running AVX512 on overclocked 11900K

8 pin cpu power is specced for 235 watts

and that's before you factor in power from the socket and cables being overbuilt

[delicate plume]

Ok

[earnest olive]

even an overclocked 3700x won't exceed the limits of a single 4 pin

let alone 8+4

draws 100 watts overclocked

single 4 pin EPS does 155W

[lyric thistle]

Maybe if you plugged a microwave into the socket

[rustic shoal]

Anyone ever plugged a 24 pin to 8 pin power adapter backwards, and made the scsi chip go kablooey ?

Oh wait I did. Lol

[stoic island]

you did what now

[rustic shoal]

Upgraded a Dell Inspiron 3670. It has only 8 pin power. So you need 24 pin to 8 pin adapter to upgrade psu. I has a secure clip so your only supposed to put it the right way. Leave it to me to mess it up

[fossil cedar]

[rustic shoal]

I saw smoke and was lucky no other components were harmed

Noticed a nice bubble on the black scsi chip/controller

[stoic island]

yay

[rustic shoal]

Smoke is never good. Lol

[south kite]

Sounds like a perfect reason to not buy a Dell 🤣

[fossil cedar]

tbh thats not dells problem thats a janky adapter

[south kite]

Or not use proprietary parts to need an adapter in the first place 🤷🏼‍♂️

[fossil cedar]

well all oems do that

[stoic island]

But not all prebuilts

[little osprey]

What’s a good keyboard

Recommendations?

[lyric thistle]

I like my K582

It's pretty good for something priced at like 40 bucks

[little osprey]

I see

[lyric thistle]

And there's a bundle with an M711 that's like 50-60 dollars total

[fossil cedar]

true true

[little osprey]

What about switches to game/typing

[lyric thistle]

The board comes with outemu reds

Linear switch

[fossil cedar]

whatever you like the feel/sound of the best tbh

as long as it aint a super heavy activation

[lyric thistle]

The heavier the better 😎

[little osprey]

So can I get recommendations?

[stoic island]

Basically

Preference

[stoic island]

Do you like it loud? Do you want to feel anything when you press down? How much typing do you do?

Do you want it to be 'heavy' when you press it down?

Hotswap is always nice if you're not completely sure, but need to get some switch to start off

[little osprey]

Ok thanks

[stoic island]

Also, what's your budget?

We'll be talking very different recommendations from around 100$ keeb to up to say 500$ keeb

[little osprey]

100

[stoic island]

Do you want it to make a sound

And do you want to feel anything when you press down

[dense sparrow]

1080p or 1440p which one is better?

[little osprey]

I would like sound yeah

And feel a little bit

[stoic island]

What GPU

[dense sparrow]

Prob 3060ti or 3070

[stoic island]

You want decent sound levels or obnoxious levels

[little osprey]

Like between if there is

[stoic island]

If your budget for a monitor is around 300$ or higher, I'd grab a M27q, 1440p170hz.

Yea so just tactile switches

[dense sparrow]

I should get 1080p or 1440p

[stoic island]

Do you know what size keyboard you want?

[lyric thistle]

Even quieter switches can still make a certain amount of noise

[little osprey]

Like 60% but with arrow keys

[stoic island]

If your budget is high enough, 1440p144hz

[dense sparrow]

Ok

[stoic island]

Do you want function keys?

And do you ever use prntscr?

[little osprey]

Nope and I do want function keys

[stoic island]

So what you're looking for will be 75%

65% is 60% with arrow keys, 75% is 65% with function keys

[little osprey]

Ohhhh ok

What’s a good prebuilt one

[stoic island]

@little osprey my reccomendation to start off would be a Keychron K2 hotswap with Gateron browns

[little osprey]

Ohhh

Ok

[stoic island]

Hotswap means you can swap nicer switches in

I have a K8 and I swapped in Durock T1s

[little osprey]

Ok thanks I’ll pick one up

[stoic island]

My crappy sound test, if it decides to send

[clever eagle]

why are they so bad tho

[stoic island]

Once you start filling them up, writes will start falling

[clever eagle]

mines not even 40%
my other drives on 9%

[stoic island]

There's always weirdness

Firmware installed?

Mobo drivers installed?

[clever eagle]

mobo drivers might need to be updated

but ssd firmware installed

should i run my pc in raid 0 mode?

@stoic island

[stoic island]

No

Don't raid SSDs for no reason

[clever eagle]

oh

[stoic island]

Raid 0 two drives, if one drive fails, you lose everything on both drives

Yaknow

Not great

[clever eagle]

true

[slim escarp]

Can someone help me over at cooling chat

[violet crown]

Should I update to the 2nd most recent bios or should I install an older bios that seemed to work flawlessly for a long time

[fossil cedar]

Try most recent non beta first

If you're on that try going back one

If not then launch bios

And work your way up

[fossil cedar]

@pallid ridge talk here general is crowded

[pallid ridge]

This?

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't get the 450w

Btw what's your budget?

[pallid ridge]

Not paying 100+ for psu

1400

After tax and shipping

[fossil cedar]

That's the premium of going itx

How much is your tax rate?

[pallid ridge]

Shared List

https://newegg.io/00368b7

This is with an 89$ psu

[fossil cedar]

What state are you in I'll just google the tax rate?

[pallid ridge]

Wi

[fossil cedar]

Wisconsin?

[pallid ridge]

Yea

[fossil cedar]

Okay

5% okay

This is for gaming right?@pallid ridge

[pallid ridge]

Yessir

I rly just need a psu to match the mini itx build at this point

But someone else brought up it may be a bad fit with wiring cus of the itx mobo so idk

Will the a750gf not fit in my mini itx? @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

No

[pallid ridge]

Oof

[fossil cedar]

I'm making youa build

[pallid ridge]

Are you changing a lot

Are you keeping it mini itx?

[fossil cedar]

I'm keeping itx

[pallid ridge]

Ok thanks

[fossil cedar]

@pallid ridge have you bought anything?

[pallid ridge]

No

[little osprey]

Oh 5%

i did 9.5%

lol

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[pallid ridge]

I have a 4tb harddrive already

And i rly want the 980 m.2 1tb samsung

All i rly need changed is the psu and MAYBE the motherboard since that one i have said the wiring might be messy

[little osprey]

And a cheaper GPU, but not possible atm😔

[pallid ridge]

Yes

[vague oracle]

Why do you want a 980 m.2?

[violet crown]

Thank you @fossil cedar
I'm having the same issue I had prior to buying a new mobo.... which is freezing unresponsive radeon app...

I'll DDu and try a older version

[little osprey]

Idk lol, same price as sn550 so i said why not

[pallid ridge]

980 is perfectly fine

[vague oracle]

Huh same price as sn550?

[little osprey]

Yeah

[pallid ridge]

Yessir

I hope i can get this bad boi straightened out tonight

[fossil cedar]

@pallid ridge may i suggest the eniac builder on newegg to get a gpu

[pallid ridge]

Idk what that is but ok

Is it different than just the newegg pc builder

[peak osprey]

Best mother bored for a Ryzen 7 3700x under 150?

[pallid ridge]

Is anything wrong with this one

[fossil cedar]

It' s a service newegg provides, they build the system for you but you have access to buy a gpu through it

You will pay a 75$ build fee but will probs be just as expensive as that overpriced 2060

[fossil cedar]

Meh

[pallid ridge]

So the same just + $75, why did u compare the gpu to it

U just mean it’ll be more expensive

So all the service does is put it together for me? Kinda confused

Is that service provided on mobile @fossil cedar ?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's called eniac

You'll need to order in the morning tho

[pallid ridge]

Do i go to it from home

And ok

[fossil cedar]

Cuz that's when the stock is

[pallid ridge]

Wdym?

[fossil cedar]

Wdym?

[pallid ridge]

So i cant just enter the list i built

[fossil cedar]

There's only a limited amount of stock of gpus per day

Well yeah you can but I'm doing a better one

[pallid ridge]

Oh ok

Same case?

Says i cant use eniac

[fossil cedar]

Why not?

Idk what case you where using but i have a different one one sec

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n73VVc i would do this

[pallid ridge]

Check this out on @Newegg: Fractal Design Focus G Mini Black MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-focus-g-mini-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352068?Item=N82E16811352068&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-11-352-068-_-08042021

Was hoping for this case^

[fossil cedar]

Weird

May i recommend the nr200 instead

[pallid ridge]

Oof 97 for case, is it necessary? Will it not fit in the fractal one

[peak ginkgo]

What is eniac ?

[pallid ridge]

Newegg pcbuild service

[worn wave]

https://eniac.newegg.com/intro/

[pallid ridge]

How do i use it, the only user interface is a search bar…

[worn wave]

ENIAC is for businesses though

It's not for individual people exactly

[pallid ridge]

Hm ok, well maybe im better of just trying to get the pc

Do u think it would be able to use the fractal case @fossil cedar or is that too much to ask

[fossil cedar]

Just a better case

[fossil cedar]

I mean yeah but the nr200 is just better

[pallid ridge]

Will your list build in newegg

[fossil cedar]

Yup

I might need to make 1 or 2 adjustments

1 sec

[pallid ridge]

Could you send it to me in a newegg list if that is ok?

[fossil cedar]

Also this case is micro atx not itx btw

[pallid ridge]

Oh my bad guess im smooth brain

Is yours itx

[fossil cedar]

I can't i don't have a newegg account as not in my country

Yeah mine os

[pallid ridge]

Oh ok

[fossil cedar]

Making adjustments tho

Needa change some things

[pallid ridge]

But u have it built in newegg?

[fossil cedar]

@pallid ridge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLmyht

You can just copy it over

I just set all the merchants to newegg

So all the stuff is available on newegg

[peak osprey]

Would a 1070 work well with a Ryzen 7

[pallid ridge]

You found a 3060 for 450…

[fossil cedar]

Check tomorrow morning their should be one for around that price

[fossil cedar]

What ryzen 7?

[pallid ridge]

Can i just buy it right there off pcpp

[peak osprey]

Ryzen 7 3700x

[pallid ridge]

Will the 3060’s for sure be restocked tmrw

[fossil cedar]

Have you already bought it? I would go i7 10700 or Ryzen 5 5600x or 5800x instead but ye it will

[fossil cedar]

They usually are

[fossil cedar]

No you have to buy it threw the newegg eniac builder

[peak osprey]

Alright but yeah I already bought a Ryzen 7 and I’m trying to find a graphics card that would work well under 400 bucks

[hallow glen]

Can I have some help? This is my build rn:https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FireDestroyer53/saved/#view=KmYBLk I have everything except for the cpu, and im open to returning the mobo. I have a cpu budget of around $260

[pallid ridge]

How do u use eniac

[little osprey]

Do you need 32gb ram?

[hallow glen]

already have it lol

[little osprey]

and do you have m.2 yet

Oh

OH they're all purchased

[hallow glen]

but can't get ahold of 11500

not 11500

[pallid ridge]

All i see is this stupid interface with a search bar

[fossil cedar]

Just go into the pc builder and you should be able to select a 30 series gpu

It will say like hot item

And you have to use eniac to get it

[pallid ridge]

But that is separate from eniac

I just dont see anything that says to use eniac

Wait u mean click one that say out of stock

[fossil cedar]

No I'll show you in the morning? Ping me

[pallid ridge]

Im gonna try to figure it out rn and ok i will, thanks for the help

[fossil cedar]

Np

[hallow glen]

uhhh... eniac? cases?

[fossil cedar]

Btw i would add a scythe fuma 2 to the list and add it yourself or if that's too much, an id cooling se 224xt but they are only on Amazon so

Weird

[fossil cedar]

Which build that has 3 builds?

[hallow glen]

11500

is the one i have everything except for 11500

in that

[pallid ridge]

Eniac seems like overkill with professionals building it for me tbh

Its like some high level pc builder pro stuff with eniac

[hallow glen]

should i wait for 11500/11400, or should i return mobo and get somethign else

[fossil cedar]

They just say that lol it's just an assembly service but they give you a chance to get a gpu in the pc and they assemble it for you

[fossil cedar]

11500 dropped earlier today actually to 230 so if you just keep your eyes peeled it should be back

[pallid ridge]

Have u actually used eniac

All i can find is there stupid service page no actual builder stuff

[fossil cedar]

No i don't live in a country where newegg is but others have

[fossil cedar]

Just go into the Newegg builder

[worn wave]

Eniac is different from the normal Newegg PC Building though

[pallid ridge]

Yes^

[worn wave]

Eniac is for businesses bulk ordering PCs and stuff

[fossil cedar]

Should bring you over when you pick a 30 series vpu

[fossil cedar]

Huh didn't know ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Hey pc is a pc

[pallid ridge]

Yea thats what i saw ^

[little osprey]

What’s the issue?

[hallow glen]

thx pato 🥔

[pallid ridge]

Pato do u think you could factor in the 2060 i had originally? Would it still be within the build budget

[fossil cedar]

You don't have to do that btw

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

I mean the 2060 was probs that price too?

[pallid ridge]

550 for it

[fossil cedar]

Yikes

Screw that

Use Eniac instead lol

You'll be able to get a 3060, maybe 3070 for that price

Or 3060 ti

If you lucky

[pallid ridge]

Im sorry but eniac is unusable i dont understand it at all

[hallow glen]

...

[pallid ridge]

Like newegg shows nothing about eniac in the builder

[hallow glen]

ill send website

[fossil cedar]

I'll show you in the morning lol

[little osprey]

Pato

there’s terrible prices for eniac

[fossil cedar]

I can't cuz the phone thing annoying

[pallid ridge]

I can go to the eniac website but its nothing about builder its just a stupid info page

[little osprey]

and terrible parts

[fossil cedar]

Not really, regular prices

[little osprey]

There’s 3060ti but there’s like 5 parts available for everything else

[little osprey]

I meant the parts it has

[pallid ridge]

Cameron honestly i want the build u got me just a psu that matches microatx

[earnest olive]

dw 3060ti good pairing with i3-6100

[little osprey]

Have high prices

[hallow glen]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-hmmm-hmmmm-thinking-gif-16016977

[earnest olive]

micro atx cases use standard atx psu

[fossil cedar]

I helped someone with before and it was fine

[earnest olive]

did you mean SFX psu?

[little osprey]

Like if you use eniac there’s barely any parts to pick from

[fossil cedar]

Yes they did

[little osprey]

The case says it supports atx though

[pallid ridge]

GUYS WILL THE a750gf psu match the microatx build…

[little osprey]

p200a

[earnest olive]

A750GF is not SFX but it is ATX

[fossil cedar]

Yes it will work fine in a micro atx case

[earnest olive]

idk what you want lol

[fossil cedar]

Micro atx is nowhere near itx in size tho

Micro atx is just atx but less height

Not much point imo go atx or itx

[pallid ridge]

So then cameron the build u gave me was matx not itx

[desert gulch]

matx can be cheaper

[fossil cedar]

I mean cases not motherboards

[pallid ridge]

Wait no my build is mini itx

Shared List

https://newegg.io/00368b7

Sorry for confusion

So what psu will fit the mini itx

[desert gulch]

yeah sometimes cases are too

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLmyht

[fossil cedar]

If you're not using eniac, use pcpartpicker because it will be cheaper

[earnest olive]

cpu and psu are overkill

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6D9hfP actually

[fossil cedar]

Wdym?

[pallid ridge]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

5600x overkill? It's cheaper than 11400/11600k z590 mini itx anyway so

[earnest olive]

could go 10400 for sure, it's a 3060

[fossil cedar]

Yeah true

[desert gulch]

will ballistix fit with that fuma?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[pallid ridge]

Guys i rly need to know what psu to use for itx

[desert gulch]

im worried since its a itx board it wont

[fossil cedar]

The one i sent is in the list

[earnest olive]

if the ram doesn't fit there is no room to move the fan upwards

154.5mm cooler in case rated for 155mm

[fossil cedar]

It should, the fuma fan is made to fit ram

[desert gulch]

yeah but im still kinda worried it wont

[fossil cedar]

Also ballistix is low profile

Fair

[desert gulch]

nah

[earnest olive]

ah

should be fine

[fossil cedar]

Ehh if it doesn't fit they can return

[desert gulch]

you want real low profile you get lpx

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

Ewwe

[desert gulch]

ok good

[fossil cedar]

Yah there's a notch in heatsink

[earnest olive]

just gonna be cutting it really close on that cooler clearance

prob can't go tempered glass panel for the nr200

[fossil cedar]

I mean it's itx what you expect

Yeah

[earnest olive]

alright well it seems b560 itx boards are out of stock

5600x it is then

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[earnest olive]

knock the psu down to the 550w variant for much cheaper

spend the savings on case fans

[fossil cedar]

Fair

Just went 650w Incase they were gonna get 3060/ti if lucky cus was gonna use eniac

But decided not to

[earnest olive]

650w is completely fine for 5600x 3060ti

[pallid ridge]

Ok final build look good?

https://newegg.io/00368b7

[little osprey]

Sure

[earnest olive]

a quality 650w unit would be fine for 5600x + overclocked 3090 even

[little osprey]

Thx guys for helping 😅 i ran out of ideas

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's why i picked 650w varient

[pallid ridge]

If thats good im gonna see if its cheaper in pcpp

[earnest olive]

550w is completely fine for 5600x 3060ti

[little osprey]

Nah

You can’t get a GPU there

lol

[earnest olive]

i ran a 3070 and a 3080 at the same time off a single 650w b tier psu lol

[fossil cedar]

Also not a 650w sfx you nerd to over spec sfc psus a bit

[earnest olive]

both at full load

[little osprey]

650w is still more than enough

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[pallid ridge]

Ok so ill just buy through newegg?

[little osprey]

Sure

[earnest olive]

i'm not convinced it's worth paying $30 extra to go from 550w to 650w for a system that'll draw 300w overclocked

[pallid ridge]

Okay then here goes

[earnest olive]

sfx or not

[little osprey]

True

[little osprey]

Rip gpu shipment tho

You can build the rest before the GPU comes then just pop the GPU in

And you still need a monitor

keyboard an mouse too maybe

[earnest olive]

why spending this much on a 2060

[little osprey]

No clue

[earnest olive]

[fossil cedar]

I'd buy from wherever makes it cheapest

[little osprey]

I already recommended hardwareswap and any used gpus

[fossil cedar]

Cuz they don't wanna use eniac or wait ?

[earnest olive]

ive seen 2080 at this price on hws

:/

[little osprey]

With eniac there’s only atx

[earnest olive]

no waiting involved

[fossil cedar]

Rip

[little osprey]

ye

and like 4 choices of ram

lol

[earnest olive]

thats 3 more choices than build redux

[pallid ridge]

Isnt the 2060 take two slots

Does the itx have the two slots room next to the mobo?

[little osprey]

Lmao

[little osprey]

?

pcie 16x

i’m pretty sure

[earnest olive]

he means physical slot height

2 slot is basically the minimum gpu size these days

it'll be fine

the case you chose fits 3 slot gpus

4 slot gpus are a thing now

[pallid ridge]

Ok

Epic thx

You guys r super helpful for real thank you all so so much

[little osprey]

Yeah no problem

[earnest olive]

i really recommend that you do not pay this much for a 2060

[ruby gull]

Anyone got some specs for a streaming pc? max price is ab $1,200. However it is a streaming pc not really a gaming one so maybe a little less than $1,200

[earnest olive]

just streaming? using capture card from console for gameplay footage?

[ruby gull]

yes just streaming, and like discord

[earnest olive]

you gonna do video editing on it?

[ruby gull]

yeah maybe into the future

[earnest olive]

if you do nothing but streaming you can get away with i3-10100, 16gb ram, gtx 1650 super and stream off of nvenc

if you also want to do video editing probably looking at more like ryzen 9 5900x (new) or ryzen 9 3950x (used), 32-64gb ram depending on video resolution, and basic display adapter like gt 710