building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

I thought you said you already had it lol?

[wicked frigate]

Not am5

[fossil cedar]

Ehh idk when next gen is

[fossil cedar]

The 5900x

[worn wave]

September hopefully for intel at least

[wicked frigate]

Ye so do

New pc

Everything is set

Just need to install graphic card buy monitor

[fossil cedar]

Use it

No point using your old pc

[wicked frigate]

But I also want to get strimers

And all that

[fossil cedar]

Also am5 is a different socket soo

[wicked frigate]

Ik

[fossil cedar]

You can add them in later

[wicked frigate]

Which sucks

And ddr5

But I need to get monitors

Speaking of monitors

I need help choosing

[fossil cedar]

Use the same one you have atm

Seriously

[wicked frigate]

And I just bought a whole new router and modem

[fossil cedar]

No point letting top of the line parts sit on a shelf

[tight sorrel]

have you got the PSU for your new PC yet?

[wicked frigate]

The rog rapture got-axe11000

Bro I got everything I expect a freaking good gpu

[fossil cedar]

MOVE YOUR 1050 TI IN AND USE THAT

;-;

[little osprey]

hii

[tight sorrel]

bro. I cant.

[wicked frigate]

Ok

I se

But what the difference may ik @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

SO MUCH BETTER

Cpu is like a bijillion times better

[wicked frigate]

Like what will be Better

[fossil cedar]

Everything

Games, using windows

Everything

[wicked frigate]

What about windows 11

How do I get that

[fossil cedar]

Not out yet for consumers

[tight sorrel]

literally everything. Your A6 cpu and its DDR3 memory migth actually be bottlenecking your 1050ti

[wicked frigate]

Dang

[fossil cedar]

Would not recommend running windows 11 as it's still in beta you'll get a lot of bugs

[wicked frigate]

But the only thing I di t know is freaking the drivers for everything

[wicked frigate]

K

[fossil cedar]

It's very easy to download the drivers

[wicked frigate]

How

[fossil cedar]

Google Nvidia geforce experience

[wicked frigate]

I been using that

Ik that

[fossil cedar]

Then go to your motherboards website

Then go to the support tab

And download the audio and lan drivers

That's all you needa do

[wicked frigate]

Cpu???

[tight sorrel]

chipset drivers too I think

[wicked frigate]

Also can I do all this after I get my new network setup which is like today

And I need a 50ft etherpoet

To my room

Lol

But won’t my FPS be the same @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah

[fossil cedar]

No

It will also be smoother etc

Also download the chipset drivers from amd.com then go support and you can use their auto thingy

[wicked frigate]

I see ok

Also any way to a 30 series

[peak ginkgo]

You have a new PC? @wicked frigate I didn't know that, lol

I would just use that over your old one

[fossil cedar]

You can just do a drop in replacement for a 30 series card really, just use ddu in safe mode on your video drivers then reinstall geforce experience

[wicked frigate]

What’s drop on replacement

Liek install my 1050ti in new pc @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

yes

[fossil cedar]

drop in

like take out your 1050 ti when you get your new card

then drop the new card in

[peak ginkgo]

This

[wicked frigate]

K

[plucky kiln]

guys is it okay if i make the aio tubing come out of the top

[vague oracle]

Yeah as long as the top of the rad is above the pump you’ll be fine

[frank stirrup]

Hmmmm

[frank stirrup]

pumpy boi is inn the cpu block mostly

[vague oracle]

I know

[delicate plume]

What’s a good psu for a rtx 3060 and a ryzen 7 3700x?

[earnest olive]

pretty much any psu will work with that

[little osprey]

650w

[earnest olive]

just depends on if you want to upgrade in the future or just get the cheapest you can get away with for this build

[little osprey]

^

[earnest olive]

a decent 450w unit would be more than enough

[little osprey]

if you want future proof get like 750w

[delicate plume]

And also

[little osprey]

Whats up

[delicate plume]

Why do I have to turn on my psu to turn on my pc?

[little osprey]

Because your psu is the power source

[earnest olive]

uhh...

[little osprey]

Does your PC not turn on otherwise/

[earnest olive]

do you expect your psu to run on no power

[delicate plume]

Well I don’t have a gpu yet lol

[little osprey]

thats not relevant

[earnest olive]

your pc shouldn't even turn on without a gpu

[little osprey]

Do you have igpu though

[earnest olive]

3700x has no integrated

[delicate plume]

No

[little osprey]

well

1. your pc needs your psu to be on to work

2. you need a GPU or iGPU

[earnest olive]

get a used 2070 super instead of a 3060

[delicate plume]

Ok so if I get a gpu

[earnest olive]

easier to get, cheaper, and higher performance

[delicate plume]

Actually different question

[earnest olive]

3060 is overhyped garbage

[delicate plume]

Idc lol

[earnest olive]

people just see "30" without realizing it performs the same as a 2060 super

[little osprey]

Yo

Is the Logitech G Hub App a virus?

???

[earnest olive]

no

[little osprey]

Bruh

[delicate plume]

But doesn’t it have more vram

[earnest olive]

who cares

more than 8gb vram does not matter with that class of gpu

more vram does not mean more performance

[little osprey]

Are you even going to use the vram though'

lmfao

[earnest olive]

you gonna try gaming at 8K on your 3060 or what

[delicate plume]

So maybe an rtx 3060 ti?

[little osprey]

no no no

WHERE are you going to get one

Overpriced from ebay?

[earnest olive]

a 3060ti is like 40% stronger than a 3060

[delicate plume]

My mom has a friend and his friend has a bunch of gpu lol

[little osprey]

Yeah hes totally gonna give you a 3060 ti

[earnest olive]

scalper?

[delicate plume]

No

He has mostly 3070

[little osprey]

Miner ?

[jagged ember]

sus

[earnest olive]

if he wants more than 800 for a 3060ti I'd get a 2080 super instead

[little osprey]

MOstly 3070

Scalping

[delicate plume]

Yes I think

[little osprey]

[delicate plume]

Lol

[jagged ember]

is he selling them to you for msrp?

[earnest olive]

can I be your mom's friend too then I want some gpus

[delicate plume]

No

[jagged ember]

okay, what price?

[little osprey]

Is he even selling them to you?

Or does he just have GPUs

[delicate plume]

Probably like 100 more then msrp

[earnest olive]

that's pretty good

[jagged ember]

so 600 fur a 3070

[little osprey]

Probably

[jagged ember]

that's nice

[little osprey]

Did you even ask or are you guessing

[delicate plume]

100-200 more

[jagged ember]

oh

he's guessing

[earnest olive]

I'll buy 15 of them

[delicate plume]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

@delicate plume easier, have you bought the cpu yet? If so don't

[jagged ember]

dude you gotta lock down a price

[little osprey]

Ill take a couple

For my birthday

of course

[delicate plume]

Yes I have everything built but my gpu

[fossil cedar]

Welp

[little osprey]

Oh i want to build GPUs too

[fossil cedar]

Except psu too?

[jagged ember]

so he's looking for a gpu and a psu

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

Should have went intel ;-;

[jagged ember]

cause he was asking about it above

[fossil cedar]

Igpu

Also 3700x bad choice to buy in 2021

[jagged ember]

but moer cores bettur

[fossil cedar]

I7 10/11700

[delicate plume]

I have a psu

[jagged ember]

lol

[earnest olive]

true more cores better grab old 16 core opterons and dual socket them

[delicate plume]

It’s horrible

Well

[earnest olive]

32 core gaming pc ayy lmao

@celest horizon

[fossil cedar]

What psu?

[jagged ember]

so what parts do you currently have, actually

[earnest olive]

where those opterons at forks

[jagged ember]

i think that'll make it clearer what he needs

[delicate plume]

I’m not saying lol

[jagged ember]

lol okay

[celest horizon]

On a shelf

[jagged ember]

can't really help if u dont

[fossil cedar]

How we supposed to help if you don't say

[frank stirrup]

its fine jsut say it

[jagged ember]

we can't steal your dna sequence from that

[delicate plume]

Well

[jagged ember]

it's okay

unless...

[delicate plume]

Unless?

[jagged ember]

i segue to our sponsor

which i just did

[frank stirrup]

i have a d tier psu too

[jagged ember]

and now i have your entire genome

[frank stirrup]

its cool

lol

[fossil cedar]

I had an evga w1

[jagged ember]

currently running the rog strix

[frank stirrup]

safe then because u don know what to do with it

[jagged ember]

kinda didn't realize there was the revo df or mpg

[delicate plume]

What psu should I get?

[jagged ember]

so sad for my wallet

[frank stirrup]

what u got rn

lol

[delicate plume]

Bad

Psu

[fossil cedar]

I'd get msi mpg

[jagged ember]

we needa know what u got to tell u what psu u need lol

[frank stirrup]

not a name

[fossil cedar]

Just say the name it might be fine

[jagged ember]

as in, the power

[delicate plume]

Why does the name matter?

[fossil cedar]

So we can tell if it's a good psu

[delicate plume]

It’s not

[jagged ember]

so we can tell u if u need a new one

how u know is bad

[delicate plume]

I’ve already asked a bunch of ppl

[jagged ember]

on reddit?

[delicate plume]

No

In this discord

[jagged ember]

okay, thats a relief at least

[frank stirrup]

if you knew so much about psus and parts, you wouldnt be on here

[jagged ember]

most people ask reddit and are like

REDDIT SAID THAT

[delicate plume]

When did I say I did?

[jagged ember]

SO IS TRUE

[frank stirrup]

well then its already out here just spill it

[fossil cedar]

Pcmr subreddit just a big echo chamber lol

[jagged ember]

shouting into the void

[delicate plume]

I want either a 650 or 750w gold psu

[jagged ember]

my a key really needs to start working consistently

[frank stirrup]

what do u have rn

[delicate plume]

Aresgame LOL

[jagged ember]

we won't laugh aat you

[fossil cedar]

Ohh no

[frank stirrup]

ehhh

could be worse

[jagged ember]

mm

yeah

could be an N1

which is a literal bomb

[fossil cedar]

True

Gigabyte pgm

[jagged ember]

thermltake smart

shudders

[frank stirrup]

aresgame has a b c and d tier unit

[jagged ember]

when u install those you will always hear 'bomb has been planted'

[frank stirrup]

whats the exact mogel of ur psu

[jagged ember]

tier b low priority

[frank stirrup]

is its the b tier its ok for a 3060

[frank stirrup]

still not bad

[jagged ember]

but it seems to be just lack of info?

[frank stirrup]

probs

[jagged ember]

it won't kill anything in ur pc for sure

[frank stirrup]

its still tier b

[delicate plume]

Ok I’m back

[frank stirrup]

very good enough

[jagged ember]

well it could be

[fossil cedar]

The b and c tier anyway, the d might try XD

[jagged ember]

is it the aresgame AGT?

[frank stirrup]

exact model of the psu?

[frank stirrup]

i use a d tier gigabyte psu lol

[delicate plume]

The oldest model ( the 1st one )

[jagged ember]

uh

[frank stirrup]

its fine

[delicate plume]

750w

[jagged ember]

so

AGT or not?

[delicate plume]

Nah it’s getting replaced

[frank stirrup]

look at the sticker on the psu

[jagged ember]

it might not need to

[frank stirrup]

and tell us what it says

[delicate plume]

Wym

[fossil cedar]

Joke, i used to use a evga w1

[delicate plume]

It’s in my pc lol

[jagged ember]

3070 and 3700x is still techniclly midrange isnt it

MY A KEY

[frank stirrup]

so?

side panels are removeable

lol

[delicate plume]

What do you want me to tell you? Like what’s on the sticker?

[frank stirrup]

yes

[delicate plume]

It’s 80 plus bronze

[fossil cedar]

Idk if I'd call a 2080 ti midrange tbh imho

[frank stirrup]

not that lmao

[fossil cedar]

3070 is 2080 ti perf + tiny bit extra

[frank stirrup]

the label

[jagged ember]

o

i forgor

[delicate plume]

So what’s a good psu?

[fossil cedar]

Msi apg 650w/750w, enermax revolution d.f. 750w/850w

[jagged ember]

well, it would be the revo df, msi mpg, phanteks amp

was it phantek?

yep

[fossil cedar]

Wait if you already have a pc do you not have a gpu already

[little osprey]

think so

[delicate plume]

Everything is in my pc except the gpu

I don’t have it yet

[jagged ember]

so you got everything

but the gpu?

[delicate plume]

Yes

[jagged ember]

ah

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i just gave the ones you should buy by price

[jagged ember]

okay fair

[fossil cedar]

Phanteks amp price went up

[little osprey]

revo df and msi mpg personal favorites

[jagged ember]

mpg a still cheap

[frank stirrup]

Just tell us what u have already

lmao

it might be fine

lol

[jagged ember]

i wish i got it instead of rog strix kek

[little osprey]

bruh

[frank stirrup]

2080ti->3070 is a sidegrade tho

[delicate plume]

Should I get a aresgame gold psu or just forget the brand?

[worn wave]

Don't buy Aresgame

[frank stirrup]

some are fine tbh

Model>brand

[frank stirrup]

Get an msi a-gf

or a revolution df

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah just using as reference

[delicate plume]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

Tell us which exact model you have now, might be okay

[frank stirrup]

750w looking tier d pato

[delicate plume]

I have a aresgame psu, 80 plus bronze, 750w

[worn wave]

Is it the AGV?

[delicate plume]

I’ll tell you the model

[frank stirrup]

that gives no info on the model

[delicate plume]

Yes it’s agv

[worn wave]

So low priority D tier?

[delicate plume]

Yep

[frank stirrup]

nope

high priority d tier

[worn wave]

ah

[fossil cedar]

Oof okay

[fossil cedar]

Soooo much better....

[frank stirrup]

@worn wave

[worn wave]

Yeah, I just looked

[frank stirrup]

exactly

[fossil cedar]

@delicate plume get Msi mpg 650w/750w, enermax revolution d.f. 750w/850w

[frank stirrup]

hows the windows install coming along btw

[frank stirrup]

apg over a gf?

[fossil cedar]

Still doing thingy

[fossil cedar]

Same psu

[frank stirrup]

AH you mean MPG

[fossil cedar]

Crap yeah

Mpg agf

Confusion

[jagged ember]

is mpg bois

[delicate plume]

Ok

[frank stirrup]

a gf better because no more single

smh pato

[fossil cedar]

X)

[delicate plume]

I’m playing a game rn so I won’t be talkin

[jagged ember]

have fun

[fossil cedar]

On what your phone?

[frank stirrup]

I WAN NEW PHON

[fossil cedar]

Or secretly has working pc

[jagged ember]

is secret pc

[fossil cedar]

Get new phon

[jagged ember]

called laptop

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[frank stirrup]

secret shopper pc

[frank stirrup]

Might soon

I wnna run linux on it

[fossil cedar]

Get OnePlus, bootyful

[frank stirrup]

smol budget

[fossil cedar]

OnePlus nord

[frank stirrup]

300$

[fossil cedar]

Damm

Nord is 400 iirc

[frank stirrup]

and I need 8 gb ram and 128gb storage

[fossil cedar]

Pixel 4a

350 iirc

[frank stirrup]

Im looking at a samsung m42

https://www.samsung.com/in/smartphones/galaxy-m/galaxy-m42-5g-8gb-prism-black-128gb-sm-m426bzkhins/buy/ @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Looks v nice actually, 750g decent, 6.6" amoled for 300$ equivalent?

[frank stirrup]

Yep

And a 5000mah battery

Lookin great

[fossil cedar]

That include tax?

[frank stirrup]

Yep

[fossil cedar]

If so v nice

Looking poh

Pog

https://www.oneplus.in/oneplus-nord-2-5g 30k inr but says you can save up to 50k inr with trade in xD

See how much current phone worth lol

[frank stirrup]

Lmao

Might trade in my iphone 7

[fossil cedar]

See how much they willing to take for it

[plucky kiln]

can the aio pump be on top or is that bad

[frank stirrup]

Its as expensive as the samsung if I trade in my iphone lol

[frank stirrup]

Not ideal

[plucky kiln]

right

so better not to do up?

[fossil cedar]

But then you're down a phone lol

[fossil cedar]

Can you rephrase

[frank stirrup]

Yeah

Imma just snag the samsung

[plucky kiln]

yk the aio pump, it’s blocking my ram slot. if i do bottom, then cables. so top is another option, but it’s probably better not to, right?

[frank stirrup]

Yes

[fossil cedar]

You can have it just rest on top of your ram

[plucky kiln]

no like it’s like in the ram space like it no fit

or i can do left, right?

[fossil cedar]

Yes?

[plucky kiln]

okay?

[fossil cedar]

You can move the tubing left to right

I think that's what you mean?

[plucky kiln]

yeah

but i was thinking top

but then heard it’s not good

so just making sure here

[delicate plume]

K I’m back

[frank stirrup]

Eh top is actually fine for an aio btw @plucky kiln

Closed loop

Little to no air

[delicate plume]

And I’m on Xbox

[plucky kiln]

alr alr

ty

[fossil cedar]

It's fine

[plucky kiln]

alr thx for feedback

[fossil cedar]

Np

[thorn heart]

Power surge hit and my pc turned off with an audible pop turned back on though, PSU replacement time?

[stoic island]

audible pop means the protections prob kicked in, it's a good indication that it's probably fine

[thorn heart]

Alright

[wicked frigate]

What do I use to remove old thermal paste

[scenic turret]

Qtips and rubbing alcohol lol

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Umm

What percentage of

Alcohol

Does it matter

[scenic turret]

99% recommended

80% will still do the job

[wicked frigate]

Does it matter

What about lower

Like 30

[scenic turret]

Yeah no don't do 30%

[little osprey]

Thats like hand sanitizer

[wicked frigate]

K

Lol

[scenic turret]

You want a bit stronger

[little osprey]

A bit

[wicked frigate]

Thx

So like 80

??

Or 99

[scenic turret]

Either is fine

[wicked frigate]

Ok thx

Wait guys any thermalboaste works

Right

Thermal paste*

[vague oracle]

Yeah

[wicked frigate]

K thx

[vague oracle]

Personally I’d use Arctic MX4 or MX5

[stoic island]

nt-h1/nt-h2

[frosty onyx]

Does ballistix sell dummy ram?

Like the rgb stuff that just fills slots and is rgb

[worn wave]

I don't think so

[frosty onyx]

Dam

I wonder how dumb it would look with the corsair set of dummys mixed in

[little osprey]

Lol

[stoic island]

just don't get dummy ram

ez

[little osprey]

True

[scenic turret]

Get REAL ram

[fossil cedar]

I mean if you really wanna have all 4 slots filled by 2 2x8gb(16gb) kits and do that instead of wasting your money

[lofty kiln]

Anyone here have any advice for an artist that is trying to build a PC to run VR artworks?

[vague oracle]

That’s what I did

[fossil cedar]

so much better than spending 20$+ on plastic

[fossil cedar]

have a big budget XD

[lofty kiln]

I was gifted a Windows Mixed Media VR headset and finally just secured a $600 grant that'll pay for a PC build!

[fossil cedar]

ngl 600$ is gonna be a rought vr experience

[lofty kiln]

oh wow! So when they say $500 for budget VR, they really mean budget choppy huh? Well, I guess I'll spend some of my own money to at least get it to something decent, but since I'm unemployed I'm afraid that's going to mean $900 max

[tame hinge]

hi cam

@little osprey

[little osprey]

hello!

[tame hinge]

ok do u know what im saying

[little osprey]

So where are you now in your pc

[tame hinge]

or is it confusing

same spot as last time

now where

no where

[little osprey]

The gpu security thing?

[tame hinge]

havent even attempted that

i have a question so u know how i had to buy windows with the new pc yeaH?

[little osprey]

Ah yes

this

[tame hinge]

do i need to wipe windows off my ssd's?

in my old pc

so when i put them in they arent messed up with the new windows

[little osprey]

Well you cant really do that

You see

[tame hinge]

ok

[little osprey]

If your ssd is the one with windows on it

You can't uninstall WHILE you're using it

[tame hinge]

true

i have 3 ssd's all together 2 in my old pc and 1 in my new

[little osprey]

How many have windows?

[tame hinge]

2

1 in old

1 i n new

[little osprey]

Hmm

I've never encountered this conflict before so i'm combing the internet for solutions

[tame hinge]

lol

[little osprey]

language

[fossil cedar]

best bet is probs https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-tower-5-amd-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-3600-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-super-512gb-ssd-phantom-black/6424477.p?skuId=6424477 if you can get an open box version or https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-legion-tower-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-10400f-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-super-256gb-ssd-1tb-hdd-phantom-black/6459507.p?skuId=6459507 - the non open box version

[little osprey]

you're going to get booted by a mod if you don't watch yourself

[tame hinge]

im trying

[little osprey]

Ok so have you tried booting with both in yet?

[tame hinge]

i dont even have the ssds installed in the new pc

i havent even set up the new pc

its just here

[little osprey]

Ah

[tame hinge]

i really only need my games correct?

[little osprey]

Thats for you to answer

What do you have on your ssd that you want to keep?

[tame hinge]

games

really thats it

[earnest olive]

@tame hingeif i see you filter evade again consider his warning in effect

[little osprey]

You're already on like 3 warnings today too

[tame hinge]

okk

i will stay good 🙂

[little osprey]

No pressure 😄

[tame hinge]

cam should i screnshot whats in my files

on the windows one

so u can see?

[little osprey]

Thats not really the issue here

[tame hinge]

yes

[little osprey]

the issue here is getting windows off

[tame hinge]

@fossil cedar

pato told me what to do like two weegs ago

i forgot tho

weeks

[fossil cedar]

what you tryna do

?

[little osprey]

Delete windows

[tame hinge]

i have my new pc here

[little osprey]

so it doesnt conflict with boot

[tame hinge]

yes

1 ssd in old pc with windows

and 1 ssd in new pc with windows

both have windows

[fossil cedar]

google windows media creation tool, download it , install it onto a usb then boot to that usb in the new pc

[tame hinge]

wha

ima just wing it to be honest ive been here for 3 hours and havent gotten 0 progress

everything is so confusing

[little osprey]

How much data do you have on your ssd

in GB

[tame hinge]

a lot

um let me see

[little osprey]

Nevermind if you figured out the SSD thing it doesnt matter

[tame hinge]

around 200gb on one and the other 700

yeah

i have a 250gb and a 1tb ssd

[supple moss]

Building a Gigabyte GB-BRRR7H-4800 AMD minicomputer. I ordered the wrong parts 32 gig of memory / 1 Tb hard SSD. What am I looking for that will fit?

[worn wave]

Most likely a 2230 or 2242 M.2 and SODIMM RAM

[lofty kiln]

Thanks for the straight forward suggestion!

[fossil cedar]

Np :)

[lofty kiln]

Interesting, it looks like it has 8 GB ram, would it be worth it to upgrade that too? (Wait am I reading this right that one can expand it to 128 GB??)

[fossil cedar]

That would be 128gb of storage, yes if you could get 16gb ram that would be ideal

[lofty kiln]

I'm assuming that after 16 GB ram it's not really worth going up more (and that's where a better graphics card comes in?)

[supple moss]

It looks like I accidentally got the right SSD, I'm not sure how you put it in the computer tho. I have Samsung SSD 980 NVMe M.2, and the order history shows it as being 2280.

[fossil cedar]

Ehh depends on the workload really but 16gb should be enough for games

[lofty kiln]

Hmm... I'm just wondering if it might help when I'm running multiple applications, especially Unity...

[fossil cedar]

That's fine, 2280 is just the form factor

[fossil cedar]

Probs but ram is expensive lol

[supple moss]

The memory was definitely wrong, tho, so I'm going to order something else and return the 32gigs of Crucial Memory I bought.

[fossil cedar]

Why was it wrong?

[supple moss]

It's bigger than the computer

The slots are about 1/3rd as long as the memory.

[scenic turret]

ddr2? Lol

[fossil cedar]

Turn the memory 90 degrees lol

[scenic turret]

Wait could it need soddim ram

Would be odd

[supple moss]

I guess I got a little overconfident, this is the first time I've ordered the wrong things. The memory can't go in this box, and yes that's it I should have bought sodimm ram.

[scenic turret]

Ah ok makes more sense now

[supple moss]

I'm building a little PC that I can take on the road with me, my home system is way to big to do that. The last time I moved around a big computer like this it eventually broke, wouldn't boot.

[scenic turret]

Sounds similar to an Intel NUC or SFF

[fossil cedar]

You definitely have the right memory, it only comes in one size, just send us a pic if you're unsure

[supple moss]

It is a much nicer AMD box. It has more threads, a better video component. I'm not playing games on it, it's just for VPN into work.

[fossil cedar]

Are you sure you bought laptop ram?

[scenic turret]

Yea he totally bought full set of Ballistics it seems lol

[supple moss]

I didn't, which is the problem. So I looked up what the barebones computer specifies and its SODDIM ram.

[stoic island]

Yea it's the gigabyte tiny PC thing

Only uses sodimm

[supple moss]

It doesn't even have a fan.

[scenic turret]

Damn passive system

[supple moss]

It doesn't need to be all that fast.

[stoic island]

It has a 4800u, laptop chip, doesn't need that much cooling

[supple moss]

As long as it has good ethernet and can handle a couple of large monitors running Visual Studio Code, which is way less of a pig than Visual Studio, I'm fine.

[stoic island]

Should do fine

[supple moss]

Thanks for the help.

[lofty kiln]

Right now, I'm actually wondering if getting all the components myself and then building it might make it the tiniest bit cheaper which I'd put into RAM:

Corsair 4000D - $80 on NewEgg
AMD Ryzen 5-3600 - $260 on NewEgg
LEVEN SINBA 32GB (16GBx2) DDR4 3200MHz - $137
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER WIND 4G Graphics Card - $400
Gaming 1TB Internal SATA Hard Drive for Desktops - $63

That'll come to $940

I'm sure I'm forgetting something...

[little osprey]

You using pcpartpicker?

Also whats your budget

[vague oracle]

There’s A LOT wrong with that list

What’s the budget and use case?

[little osprey]

Yes, i didnt want to come out and say it though

[vague oracle]

First off the bat 11400F and a B560 instead of the 3600

[fossil cedar]

^ I'm tired so I'll let them deal with you

[lofty kiln]

Ah, I'll start building with that site.

[little osprey]

Go sleep pato 🛏️

[vague oracle]

Les what’s the budget and I’ll do it for you

[lofty kiln]

Thank Pato!

[still roost]

AlecFencer#2894 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

?

[vague oracle]

What?

[fossil cedar]

Probs the no .....

Bit

[vague oracle]

Ohhhhh

But why did it let it through

[fossil cedar]

Cuz can be used as a slur i suppose lol

[little osprey]

No home

[vague oracle]

True true

[fossil cedar]

They didn't it was notif that i saw

[vague oracle]

Huh ok they let it through on my screen

[little osprey]

Anytime now

😄

[vague oracle]

Ok so yeah lesdavag what’s your budget?

And what’re you using it for?

[little osprey]

[lofty kiln]

My budget for a VR computer for running Unity + my own VR world is $600 but if I have to drop $900 so it's not laggy I will reluctantly... I need to install this art piece afterwards so I wanted something very simple (no lights etc)

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok

[little osprey]

You already got monitors?

[vague oracle]

I gotchu

[lofty kiln]

I have monitors and an Acer headset for the VR

[little osprey]

Ill let alec help you out on this one

[vague oracle]

So I’m guessing you use purely unity to run the VR?

[lofty kiln]

Yeah, I would've asked a friend to see how it runs on their PC, but they've gotten so busy I just need to do it myself, but I'd love if I can also finish the VR piece on the PC and not on my mac...

Which is why I'm tempted to go up to 32 GB ram just to run multiple applications faster

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok I’ll be able to help you out with that

Out of curiosity what’s your current ram usage like?

[lofty kiln]

I max out at 16 GB ram currently on a 2015 macbook pro so it seems to take all day when I export projects

[vague oracle]

Ok so yeah 32Gb is a must

[lofty kiln]

Unlike macs, if it can go higher, that's great! I may even use it for video editing instead of my mac if it ends up being fast enough

[vague oracle]

Everything is good and all except the GPU will be difficult to find especially for around a $900 budget

Of course it’ll be possible but you’re going to have to wait a bit for it

[lofty kiln]

ahhh sounds about right

[vague oracle]

You could try to look around on hardware swap for like a 1650 super and higher and hope for a good deal

[little osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/msYnz7

[little osprey]

Sort by new on the subreddit so it shows new posts

[lofty kiln]

TY sir, I'm scrolling thru right now

[vague oracle]

Of course you could also go down the prebuilt route which could be a better option for you

[lofty kiln]

Yah, I was thinking of getting this open box that Pato recommended: Shop Lenovo Legion Tower 5 AMD Gaming Desktop AMD Ryzen 5-3600 8GB Memory NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Super 512GB SSD Phantom Black at Best Buy

and then upgrading it to 32GB ram

[vague oracle]

How much is it?

[lofty kiln]

Not including the ram $900

[vague oracle]

That’s honestly a good deal

Yeah I agree with Pato, that’s your best bet

[lofty kiln]

but open box $810 so I'll do that, but any advice on the ram, can I still use this: LEVEN SINBA 32GB (16GBx2) DDR4 3200MHz - $137

[vague oracle]

Honestly I’ve never heard of it

[lofty kiln]

Ah just go with Crucial

[vague oracle]

Crucial is what I use and I love it but 32Gb 3600mHz is about $200

[lofty kiln]

Hmm... is it easy enough to re-sell the ram that comes with the pre-build? Maybe that will make that slightly more affordable...

[vague oracle]

The sweet spot for a Ryzen 5 3600 is 3600mHz

[lofty kiln]

ah ok

[vague oracle]

You definitely could try

And honestly 3600 mHz may be the sweet spot but 3200mHz ram will still work very well

Ehh nvm with crucial it’s a $20 difference between 3200 and 3600

[little osprey]

Sometimes less when theres a promotion though

[vague oracle]

True

[little osprey]

Just gotta catch those sweet deals

[vague oracle]

But yeah that Lenovo prebuilt is your best bet for a solid pc that will run VR well

[lofty kiln]

TY sir!

I'll get it now and do ya'll usually just have a way that you have reminders ring you if something drops below a certain price?

[vague oracle]

This server doesn’t really have anything like that as far as I know but I think there are some Google extensions that do that

Personally I think your best bet would be to get that prebuilt that just to save up more for the new ram

[little osprey]

@lofty kiln

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KkqBD3/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4b

this is on https://pcpartpicker.com/

you can do it for other parts too

[vague oracle]

[lofty kiln]

Ah, ok I've set myself an alert if it ever goes below $170

[little osprey]

Nice

[vague oracle]

Wait on Amazon there’s a red kit of that crucial Ballistix that’s 32Gb 3200mhz at $170

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K16G32C16U4R/dp/B083TSH22R

[little osprey]

Reds usually on sale

Assuming you want red

thats 3200mhz though

3600mhz same price

[lofty kiln]

interesting, I'm more wondering if I'll be able to tell a difference between 3200 and 3600

oh pff

[little osprey]

You will

Especially with a ryzen CPU

[lofty kiln]

You must have a special deal, I can only find it at $188

[little osprey]

Ah my bad, I meant 3600mhz was the same price as pcpartpicker, at 188 usd.

[lofty kiln]

Dang the open box I wanted is not available in my area, oh well

[main sedge]

I have an idea and I want some input. So I already have a gaming laptop and all the gear with monitors blah blah blah… but I want to build a pc. Here’s where the fun part comes in, I want a fish tank as well. I some help coming up with ideas of how I could combine the two things together to make like an insane build

[little osprey]

Should I put my pc on the floor for more space?

[worn wave]

Would it be on carpet?

[little osprey]

No

[vague oracle]

Go for it then

[little osprey]

Betttt

[vague oracle]

You could try doing a mineral oil pc but that’d be A LOT of work for sub par cooling and not good functionality

Well it would work

[worn wave]

It would be sick if Puget still sold the Mineral Oil PC kits

[little osprey]

Your fish would die if you don't open up your case like 3x a day to feed them though

[main sedge]

Like it wouldn’t have to be all in one thing but like I was more thinking build almost like a test bench pc on one side and half the the tank almost on the side maybe

[earnest olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/685623145914433552/721877164236079214/iu.png

[little osprey]

Yoo

How do I clean a desk

And monitor

From dust and stuff

[cerulean trellis]

I’m pretty sure my cpu is the problem it looks burnt

[little osprey]

Wet washcloth or pressured air

[little osprey]

Easy way to ruin components

[latent storm]

one of my buddies wants a pc for 1500 which includes keyboard mouse and monitor

anyone have any lists already made by chance?

[wicked zealot]

just finished my first ever build and it wont pop up on the display on my tv hdmi

sad

[vague oracle]

Did you plug the HDMI into the gpu?

[wicked zealot]

yis

[vague oracle]

Reset CMOS?

[wicked zealot]

idk what that means

[vague oracle]

Ok so did you see a round battery on your motherboard?

[wicked zealot]

yes

round lithium battery

[vague oracle]

Power your pc off and remove that battery for like 10 minutes

[wicked zealot]

check

ill try it

[vague oracle]

Ok

When it’s removed press down the power button to get rid of any lingering power in the PC

Make sure the PSU cord is unplugged tho

[shrewd fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8VXxwz

Hows this

[vague oracle]

Give me a min

What’s the budget?

There will be a few changes

And what’s the use case?

[shrewd fjord]

$1500 USD

[wicked zealot]

update battery is slightly lodged in there apparently

[shrewd fjord]

https://youtu.be/n73T5ADSUQc

Watch that

[wicked zealot]

big pain

[vague oracle]

It’s possible to get it out, just keep playing with it

[vague oracle]

What’s the use case for your future pc?

[wicked zealot]

i built mine for under 1500 pre tax

but no keyboard/mouse/monitor included

[shrewd fjord]

Wdym

[vague oracle]

Like what are you going to be doing with it?

Gaming, rendering, video editing, etc

[shrewd fjord]

Oh I will be gaming and maybe a little bit of streaming

[vague oracle]

Ok

I’d do something like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nn4yht

[shrewd fjord]

Looks good but I'm wanting to put all my games on SSD so at least 1 Tb and also I need wifi and also will that PSU work with the cables I have

[vague oracle]

What cables do you have?

There’s honestly no point in having all your games on one SSD

It’s better to have windows and your most played games on the SSD and the rest on the 2Tb HDD

[little osprey]

^

Don't put games you barely play on your main boot drive

[shrewd fjord]

Oh okay good to know

Well thank you guys

[wicked zealot]

didnt work

sadge

do i need something other than an hdmi for a tv since i dont have a monitor or something?

[desert gulch]

Change ssd and it's good

I'd personally go for a 1tb ssd only, but if you really want to stick with 500gb much better options exist

[stoic island]

ssd fine other than I'd like to just do 1tb

[desert gulch]

But in 500gb capacity you can get a 980 rn for same price

[stoic island]

and?

I'd rather a sn550 than 980 tbh

[desert gulch]

Really?

Why?

[stoic island]

rnd perf neat

[desert gulch]

But real time game loading perf worse

And you get better quality

[stoic island]

meh

[desert gulch]

You see the sn550 on Tom's hardware had a bunch of flux just chilling in the lower right?

[stoic island]

?

[stoic island]

what about it

[desert gulch]

Look near smd caps and diode

It's not a great thing imo

Shoulda been cleaned before it ever left the factory

[stoic island]

nothing wrong with it imo

[desert gulch]

Meh I don't think it'll hurt long term but not super encouraging

Electrical leakage is always a possibility if this thing ran really hot

Just seems like they did some solder reflow and forgot to clean it before they shipped it out

Almost like a rookie did it

I'm guessing it's also right next to the controller right? I think that's what that is

[stoic island]

gonna assume controller is what's above it.

[desert gulch]

Yeah same

[stoic island]

actually

that's probably not the controller either

[desert gulch]

Hmm where is it then?

[stoic island]

that might just be nand

[desert gulch]

Hmm

You did see the Tom's hardware review on 980 right?

[stoic island]

ye

e12 for example

[desert gulch]

And testing against 550?

[stoic island]

ye

[desert gulch]

Ight

[stoic island]

sn550 still got better rnd write

[desert gulch]

Also the 980 has better nand imo

Yeah ig

But with them being same price rn, I think I'd take the 980 anyday

A little worse rand wont hurt

980 still kinda destroys in game loading times and stuff

[jagged ember]

If it's the same price

Then it just depends on what matters more to you

[desert gulch]

Yes

[stoic island]

ye

also, now that I think about it, it's prob the slc that's above the flux

[jagged ember]

The flux capacitor?

[desert gulch]

Nah wide

[stoic island]

no, like the chemical agent

[desert gulch]

The flux just chilling there

That wd forgot to clean up

It's the wet stuff in lower right of pic

[stoic island]

also

doesn't really look that bad tbh

[jagged ember]

I don't know what you're talking about honestly

[desert gulch]

Yeah not all ppl got it

[jagged ember]

I don't see fluid

[desert gulch]

Seems like it's not super common

Wideus

Look here

[jagged ember]

Isn't it just like the stuff they put on all pcbs

[desert gulch]

Look at the brown crap

In the lower right

Shouldnt be there

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

flux

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

[jagged ember]

Oh the pool of stuff

[desert gulch]

Yeah

That stuff

[stoic island]

I feel like the first image make it seem worse than it is

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks darker than the rest

[stoic island]

since it looks better than the rest of the pictures

[obsidian wigeon]

tru

somehow my sn520 has no flux anywhere tho

but that's a kinda diff drive

[desert gulch]

Yeah it seems ppl got it in all different ways, pato has no flux like that on his 550

But I looked at pics of sn550 on Google and found others with same issue

[obsidian wigeon]

it doesn't shorten its lifespan, right?

[desert gulch]

So it seems like a luck thing

[obsidian wigeon]

just makes it look bad

[desert gulch]

I doubt it would

I'd just be scared of electrical leakage

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah it's just flux

[desert gulch]

At higher temps

[obsidian wigeon]

tru

[desert gulch]

Other than that it won't really matter

Also would be annoying if your Mobo has a heatsink and you put ur 550 under it and now you have a bunch of crap everywhere if you ever take heatsink off

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao yeah, that'd suck

[clever eagle]

my ssd is a lot slower than its meant to be

[frank stirrup]

no?

its not

also those are sequential speeds

dont really matter

[clever eagle]

why is it so bad

[frank stirrup]

Its not

Its pretty bad

[frank stirrup]

what app is this

use crystal diskmark only

[clever eagle]

that was samsung magician

[frank stirrup]

use crystaldisk

[clever eagle]

ok this is not very good

[frank stirrup]

eh pretty normal

[earnest olive]

change MB/s to IOPS for rand speeds

write speed looks like a bad run

CDM is weirdly inconsistent sometimes

[earnest olive]

what ssd?

[clever eagle]

980 pro

[earnest olive]

yeah that is a lot lower than it should be

my 3.0 x2 drive is crushing that

try rerunning it

i wouldn't look at CDM too hard though

[frank stirrup]

could just be ur drive being better

[earnest olive]

yeah no

980 pros are rated for 1 million rand read/write iops lol

mine is rated for 250k read iops

it was a brand new 2tb drive for $165

value oriented

[frank stirrup]

strange

[earnest olive]

it's technically 3.0 x4 but my board limits bottom m.2 slot to 3.0 x2

not a big problem for real world performance so it's whatever

sequential speed is halved but rand read is unaffected

[clever eagle]

oh

[frank stirrup]

lOwEr SeQuEnTiAl

[earnest olive]

and rand read is the most important for real world performance

it's serving well as a game drive

[clever eagle]

hmm

i updated ssd firmware, optimised drive and did stuff in cmd and now it seems ok

[earnest olive]

rand performance still looks really low

[frank stirrup]

SN550

[clever eagle]

oh

[earnest olive]

is it actually slow to load things though?

CDM isn't perfect

my much cheaper drives

[clever eagle]

nice

what drive

[earnest olive]

main drive is force mp600 1tb, second drive is silicon power ud70 2tb

cost $125 and $165 respectively

[clever eagle]

ok

drive 2:

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

do you have 2 980 pros? lmao

[clever eagle]

ik

[clever eagle]

how fix slow write

[jagged ember]

"slow"

[flint sapphire]

ur 980 pros are pretty much in line with mine, prob because of the smaller size your drives did a bit better

[frank stirrup]

get demolished by my sn550 nerd

[flint sapphire]

get demolished by the next 5 builds my drives gunna be in nerd

[frank stirrup]

do u have the 15th best rx570 ever made tho?

[flint sapphire]

i cannot claim i do

[frank stirrup]

I can claim that I do

hence get destroyed

HAH!

[flint sapphire]

can u claim to have a really dope be quiet screwdriver?

[frank stirrup]

my dope screwdrivers do be quiet

[flint sapphire]

eh not even advertising a pc peripheral company lame

[frank stirrup]

LOGITECH AM I RIGHT

[flint sapphire]

wanna see my crappy sata ssd raid

[frank stirrup]

no

get rekt

[flint sapphire]

[frank stirrup]

ok fine show me it

[flint sapphire]

good nuff

[frank stirrup]

very nais rand

jk

[flint sapphire]

lol

not 600k 62k

[frank stirrup]

yeah realised after I said nice rand

[fossil cedar]

If you don't think my sn550 lasting me 10 years you got another thing cominh

[flint sapphire]

its just 2 1tb drives in raid 0

[frank stirrup]

150TBW only tho

[flint sapphire]

pff samsung says u can read write my drive 10 billion times

[fossil cedar]

Huh?

[flint sapphire]

sorry gazillion*

[frank stirrup]

I dont wanna read and write "my drive" 10 billion times

[fossil cedar]

Something else gonna die before that lol but mine got plenty too

[frank stirrup]

sn550 has a lifespan of 150tbw

terabytes written

ssd do the big die after that

[fossil cedar]

Ohh so i can rewrite my whole drive 150 times?

That doesn't seem like a lot

[frank stirrup]

Yep

[fossil cedar]

150 is for the 250gb

[frank stirrup]

thats why higher end drives better

[fossil cedar]

300tb for 500gb and 600tb for 1tb

Warranty of 5 years anyway lol

And is gonna take me some time

[frank stirrup]

I stand corrected

IG I can write my drive over 100 times before big die

[fossil cedar]

You has 500gb sn550?

You can rewrite 600 time

[frank stirrup]

Ive already done 20tb tho

[frank stirrup]

yes

[fossil cedar]

20/300

[frank stirrup]

no wait what oh yes right im dummy

[fossil cedar]

[frank stirrup]

the thing is Ive written more than 100TB to my pc in a year

[fossil cedar]

You still got 94% of drive life lol

[frank stirrup]

thankfully I use HDD

for most of my storage

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-sigh-phew-gif-5752975

[fossil cedar]

I mean 5 year warranty sooooo if it die before then......

[frank stirrup]

btw pato did you update ur ssd?

[fossil cedar]

Wdym the firmware?