#building-and-recc-chat

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fossil cedar
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If you don't pin we'll have to keep replying to it lol

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All depends on budget if you should go team blue or red tbh

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It has 8 lol?

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Possibly one of the laptop i7s are quad core but i thought 6c and 8c

jaunty token
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$2k ish range, and I already have a GTX 1650.

earnest olive
fossil cedar
earnest olive
pale dust
indigo dirge
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@fossil cedar @earnest olive check ur dm

fossil cedar
jaunty token
pale dust
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i was a league player though

indigo dirge
pale dust
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but only for a few months

earnest olive
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I'll ask if I can pin it

indigo dirge
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in Rm

earnest olive
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$8000?

pale dust
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rm

indigo dirge
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sorry

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i mean

jaunty token
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😮

indigo dirge
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8000rm

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in $

earnest olive
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what's rm

indigo dirge
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its 2000

pale dust
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1900

indigo dirge
pale dust
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malaysian mony

jaunty token
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Oh not too bad then

earnest olive
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my laptop was $1700

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i7-10750H + RTX 3070 130W

fossil cedar
indigo dirge
fossil cedar
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My laptop has some 8th gen i5 😎

indigo dirge
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I should have choosen a rtx 2080ti

earnest olive
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the 10750H is nice

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6 core that holds 4.3ghz sustained

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uhh

indigo dirge
earnest olive
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you can't get 2080ti in laptops

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and no it's not

indigo dirge
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its

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like

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something called

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super max q

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its a 20 series

earnest olive
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lol ew

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max-q is bad

jaunty token
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Hope to see the 3060 drop before xmas. I want to get my sister a nice card.

indigo dirge
indigo dirge
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lmao

jaunty token
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ROFL!!!\

earnest olive
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max-q means severely power constrained

indigo dirge
indigo dirge
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well

earnest olive
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yeah lol no way

indigo dirge
earnest olive
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your 100w 3070 is better than a 2080 super max-q

indigo dirge
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an msi 2080 super max q w intel 10th i9

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better than mine

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:)))

earnest olive
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better cpu worse gpu

indigo dirge
indigo dirge
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lmao

jaunty token
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Laptops are ok. but they're a pain to upgrade.

indigo dirge
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gaming laptops are so crappy

indigo dirge
earnest olive
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I don't use my laptop for gaming often

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only when staying over with the gf

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can't be bothered to lug my tower over

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I brought my 5 year old school laptop with i7-7700hq and GTX 1050 and 60hz screen

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I lasted 5 days before I gave in and bought a new one

jaunty token
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Not bad for a school kid.

earnest olive
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gaming on that thing was miserable

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it was fine at the time yeah

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but not anymore

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I'm spoiled now

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I've tasted 3080 and 1440p 165hz monitor

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I can't go back to 1080p low 25 fps gaming

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it only took 5 days for my sanity to break

jaunty token
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As for my sister, she's living with me. I can game on it while she's at school. 😛

earnest olive
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as soon as the new laptop arrived I went from an 8 loss streak to a 4 win streak

jaunty token
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nice!!

earnest olive
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it was just the 60hz

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144hz instantly so much better

jaunty token
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True that! even the 1650 cal pull that off. Though it will get hot if you don't have a good case.

earnest olive
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as a kid I was always happy with 20 fps at lowest settings

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now I get physical pain from 30 fps

jaunty token
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LOL

earnest olive
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tried to play breath of the wild on switch

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had to put it down after 10 mins as the 900p 20 fps gave me a piercing headache

jaunty token
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try mixing music with a quad core 6th gen intel. Now that's pain.

earnest olive
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well

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I edited 1080p videos on a dual core 5th gen intel running at 2.4ghz

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and a 5400 rpm hard drive

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no ssd

jaunty token
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you poor soul. there isn't enough motrin for that headache.

earnest olive
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scrubbing through timeline with multiple video/audio channels and having to wait for that damn hard drive to load

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took 20 minutes to render each minute of 1080p 30 fps video

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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pretty much any render project would be relegated to overnight

jaunty token
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Are you a windows victim?

earnest olive
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yeah, I would like to switch to linux if it supported the games I play

jaunty token
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What games?

earnest olive
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nothing would save that laptop as a video editing machine though

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specs too low

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well my main game used to work on linux but got axed recently

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that would be league

lyric thistle
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League 😳

jaunty token
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Ah yes one of the last java holdouts.

earnest olive
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league was written in java?

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thought it was c++

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doesn't matter what language it's written in though, it's the worst code ever

jaunty token
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it's a mix of both.

earnest olive
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you could probably make a less buggy program in scratch

jaunty token
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Thus linux no longer supports it after lts 20.04

earnest olive
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shoutout to that one youtuber that literally makes a living off of showcasing league bugs

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I have a bit of linux experience

jaunty token
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I usually plat Starcraft ii or MWL.

earnest olive
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used it for NASM programming

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was fun

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ran a linux mint VM

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but I can't run linux as a daily driver for now

jaunty token
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I have 2 pure linux boxes. a 6th gen intel i5 and a 8th get i7. both running Ubuntu. then there's the windows victim for basic web browsing.

earnest olive
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anyways it's 3am here I need to sleep

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good night

jaunty token
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LOL 6 here. but I work nights. TTYL

earnest olive
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yeah I hope one day I'll be able to switch

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not really a fan of windows but it's the only solution for now

jade scarab
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Getting the 5600x should be good

obsidian wigeon
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for what

still bone
jade scarab
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I’m getting the 5600x cpu

obsidian wigeon
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again for what purpose bruh

jade scarab
obsidian wigeon
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gaming

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no it's not good value

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i5 11400/11400F better

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i kinda wanna vent this, cause god why does people keep looking at amd cause ryzen 3000 was so good

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i mean 5000 series is still good, but value isn't there unless you get a 5900x

jade scarab
obsidian wigeon
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Oh, already got an am4 board

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That's sad then, as 5600x is the only answer

noble sonnet
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It scares me that the i9 9900kf is worse than the i9 9900k

obsidian wigeon
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?

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Worse than? In any way?

noble sonnet
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The well in 3d games

obsidian wigeon
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uhhh, where did you get your info in?

noble sonnet
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Yt

obsidian wigeon
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9900K and KF has exact perf, the KF just lacks iGPU

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Unless your "worse" is a few fps, which is a margin of error

noble sonnet
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So shouldn't it be better because it gets rid of it?

obsidian wigeon
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Not getting rid of it

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Just disabled for who knows why

noble sonnet
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Ahhh i get u

jade scarab
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5600x is good tho I like AMD more

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I think it’s better for gaming atm

obsidian wigeon
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It is better than the 11400/11400F in performance, yes, but it's like 100$ or so more than the Intel counterpart

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I'm just sick of people wanting amd all the time, so I might have been a bit pissy

jagged ember
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Nothing

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The price is what's wrong

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Money talks, man

obsidian wigeon
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^

jagged ember
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We don't shill for one brand or the other

obsidian wigeon
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AMD has meh value for mid-end for this gen

jagged ember
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It's pricey compared to intel counterparts

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That's all

obsidian wigeon
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yeh

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Performance is not an issue at all

jagged ember
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Both good perf lol

obsidian wigeon
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I do love its perf, it's gud

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But price is eeehhh, fine

jade scarab
jagged ember
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Yeah

jade scarab
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Lol

jagged ember
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It's been that way for a while loll

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But yes the turn tables

jade scarab
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No

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Not a while

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I would say like a year

jagged ember
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That's a while?

jade scarab
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I would say 3 years is a while

obsidian wigeon
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AMD was cheaper than Intel for a few years

jagged ember
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That's basically an eternity kek

obsidian wigeon
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First gen ryzen all the way to third

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Like 2017-2020?

jade scarab
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I had a 2060 before the pandemic and I sold it for below RRP

jagged ember
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Ye up to 2020

jade scarab
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😔

obsidian wigeon
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Now it's reversed

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Intel is now cheaper in some cases

jagged ember
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Not all

jade scarab
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Yh its pretty crazy cause AMD was going bankrupt near 2011 and Intel was so happy

waxen pasture
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Question for all the big brains out there: is there a way for me to put in a new ssd into my pc and use it as my c drive(m.2 ssd) to replace my current c drive but keep my current ssd(sandisk) without reformatting it? I want to keep every thing in my sandisk drive but change to a new boot drive if that makes sense

jade scarab
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Yh you can I think

vague oracle
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I think you could just go about that by reinstalling windows to that drive

jagged ember
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I think if you do a full image backup

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Of the old drive e

vague oracle
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It should automatically deleted windows from your current boot drive and install it to the new one

jagged ember
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You can recover it on the new drive

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But that's a theory

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I haven't actually tested that

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At least, it sounds plausible

vague oracle
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@stoic island Sorry to @ but do you have any idea about this? I think this is up your alley

jagged ember
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Id also like to know

waxen pasture
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Okay so say i instal windows on the m.2 and use that as my boot drive and i wanna instal a client, would i be able to instal that client on the new m.2 and use the same file location from the old ssd?

jagged ember
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Like a vm?

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For running another os or something?

jade scarab
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Im gonna use a 5600x with a gt 710

obsidian wigeon
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if you're planning for a build

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make sure it's enough for a good gpu lol

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not just that

waxen pasture
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No, so i wanna instal my Runelite client(for runescape) on my new ssd, but alot of progress and game files are saved on my old ssd, so if i move runelite to a different ssd, can i still keep the same file location for everything to keep saving to

jagged ember
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no, the drive lettering would be different

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all you have to do is just transfer the files to the new ssd and tell the client where to access the files

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just like with every steam game

obsidian wigeon
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^

waxen pasture
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Ok, nice, so do you think i can do that if i instal the nee ssd with windows and boot into that, will i have to format the old ssd before i can access it?

jagged ember
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if you want to access old ssd as another drive, not necessarily i think

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but you won't be able to access the space that the old windows already occupied

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thats what I remember, at least

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don't quote me on it

obsidian wigeon
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you could

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it's just marked windows.old

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and not used by windows

waxen pasture
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Ok, that makes sense, i just wanna know if i should backup the files in an external drive before

obsidian wigeon
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but you can still assign programs and stuff to use em

jagged ember
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you should always be doing backups anyways, but

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yes

waxen pasture
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Ha i should be doing backups but im lazy lol

jagged ember
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i just use synchredible

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one time setup and you can make it run regularly

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ez

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or, pay for backblaze

waxen pasture
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I see, ty

jagged ember
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unlimited storage for 6 bucks

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a month so

earnest olive
vague oracle
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The fact that im pretty sure all of us seen every single one of those is sad

earnest olive
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that's why I made a fun little game out of it lol

vague oracle
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lmao

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why is that message red?

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lmao

earnest olive
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discord is having issues rn

rich helm
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How does one play the bingo

desert gulch
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the joke is when ppl spend so much more on a mobo compared to cpu, since you dont need a god tier mobo for a nice cpu, only exception imo is like server boards and x299 boards, since sometimes the cpus are really cheap but the mobos still arent

rich helm
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Do you check it off when someone sends their list?

desert gulch
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sips why is p12 pack only neutral good?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
earnest olive
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so it balances out some of the rest to create neutral

desert gulch
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hmm ig

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when you gonna add more to it?

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i could make a 6x6 one lol

earnest olive
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listen man it was really hard to line them up so that rows and columns would work

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lol

desert gulch
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lol

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ill make a 6x6 one lol

vague oracle
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lol we should all just have a bingo night with that board lol

desert gulch
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yesss

rich helm
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I feel like me and sunbreaker are the only ones who actually got that msrp 3060ti fe here

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But so many people put it in their lists

desert scarab
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Yo quick question, to upgrade a new GPU what else would I have to check. Like would I also have to upgrade the RAM?

desert gulch
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nah if you wanna upgrade gpu all you gotta do is ddu the drivers for best expirience, unplug it, and throw new one in, and install the new drivers

cerulean trellis
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What causes the black screen of death?

pale dust
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many things

cerulean trellis
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like I'm confused about what caused my pc to do it.

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because i don't want to buy something and it not work.

vague oracle
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Literally could be anything

frank stirrup
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Grr whats that app that tells you error codes

cerulean trellis
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im thinking about buying a new cpu

pale dust
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whocrashed

frank stirrup
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EVENT VIEWER

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Use that

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and find the most recent critical error

cerulean trellis
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i have one of those beep code things

frank stirrup
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Use event viewer

cerulean trellis
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how if i cant see anything

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and it doesentdisplay

frank stirrup
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reboot lol

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hold down power button

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press it again

cerulean trellis
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didnt do anything

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i might just buy a new cpu

vague oracle
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try plugging in your monitor into your mobo instead of the gpu

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see if that changes anything

cerulean trellis
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i dont have a igpu

vague oracle
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oh shoot forgot about that

cerulean trellis
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i might just buy a new cpu and see if that works

vague oracle
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Dont you have a 1060 or is that someone else?

cerulean trellis
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nope

vague oracle
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damn

cerulean trellis
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would a new cpu work?

vague oracle
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i honestly dont think its the cpu

desert gulch
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try full power off then on

vague oracle
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Try resetting CMOS

desert gulch
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like make sure its fully shut down

cerulean trellis
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i did reset cmos

vague oracle
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Like you pulled the battery for like 5-10 minutes?

cerulean trellis
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yes

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yesterday

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could it be psu

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?

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also i don't think its the GPU because i used the other ports on it and it didnt work

vague oracle
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wut?

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That doesnt mean that the gpu is fine

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Are you able to test the gpu in another PC?

desert gulch
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@earnest olive

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just finished my own bingo board lol

obsidian wigeon
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ah yes

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h510, classic

pale dust
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5000d is reasonable

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hmm

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
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3060ti msrp pipedream

pale dust
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lmao

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i actually got one

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last bestbuy drop

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with my friend

obsidian wigeon
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it's mostly a unicorn tho

pale dust
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i mean he was there

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since like 8pm

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and he dm'd me and then i showed up at like 12 lol

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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how lol

pale dust
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wait also whats wrong with nzxt aio

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they are expensive

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but they dont seem to actually be horrible

desert gulch
rich helm
desert gulch
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its a sin bc it happens so much with high tier processors

desert gulch
pale dust
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hmm

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if you were going for apu only

fossil cedar
pale dust
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id say a 5600g is pretty good

desert gulch
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nah

desert gulch
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so its like a r5 3600

pale dust
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its an apu

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try to find a 3400g then

desert gulch
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its just meh

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if cache wasnt gimped itd be p nice

obsidian wigeon
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nzxt aio = looks, meh performance for the $$$

pale dust
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for all the cache it loses its performance isnt too far off

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especially because you get it for the dGPU not core performance

obsidian wigeon
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igpu is stronk

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but i pray price ain't too inflated

pale dust
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well

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it isnt officially out until the 5th

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so we'll have to see

obsidian wigeon
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the price is revealed by amd, but that's msrp

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msrp of 5600g is 249

pale dust
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yeah at that price

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at similar price they seem to be the same

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and in cpu performance its about 3 to 7%

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in r20 even less

desert gulch
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i mean in gaming perf cpu wise the 5600g performs basically like a 3700x

pale dust
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the 5600g is like

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a few percent behind the 5600x in st

desert gulch
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nah

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its more than a few

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its like %10

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in gaming

pale dust
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i just sent you a link

desert gulch
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thats synthetic benchmarks

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real world perf is different

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look at these real world benchmarks

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in this specific game, its over %10 different

pale dust
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which game

desert gulch
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the one i timestamped to

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mafia

earnest olive
desert gulch
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and in like warzone its %10

desert gulch
earnest olive
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64gb ram is unreasonable reasonable?

desert gulch
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so its kinda just meh

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since it cancels out

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ig

earnest olive
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what is reasonable acceptable lol

desert gulch
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its like pretty good reasonable

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p much means "makes sense"

pale dust
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either way it isnt meant to compete with a 5600x

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you get a pretty competent igp for 50 dollars less

desert gulch
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ik but im saying the perf difference is def there

pale dust
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find one with that potency in the price difference

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comparing just cpu perfomance doesnt make sense when that isnt the point of the g

earnest olive
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i'd choose i5-10400 + used gtx 970 over r5 5600g lol

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if you dealhunt a bit i5-10400 + gtx 970 is certainly possible for the $260 they're asking for the 5600g

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while being in a totally different performance class

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the r5 5600g cpu side loses to the 3600 in some tasks due to the gimped cache

pale dust
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comes out to about 300

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yeah

earnest olive
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nah you could do it for 260 for sure

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i've seen a few 10400s for 100 or less

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microcenter sold them brand new retail for 110 for a bit

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some 970s are going down to 160

pale dust
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yeah i used like 130 for the 970

rich helm
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Could you do 10400 + 970 in a $500 pc thinkies

earnest olive
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i mean it's possible

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would be slightly more difficult to do than 5600g due to higher psu requirement but

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the performance difference is worth it

rich helm
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If my friend gets a pc I’m trying to think what he could get for sub 700-800

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I actually have no idea what his budget is tbh

earnest olive
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the best price i saw on hws was $150 for i5-10400 + msi b460m pro bundle

rich helm
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Sheesh

earnest olive
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that would definitely enable a build like that for $500

vague oracle
earnest olive
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i didn't use super cutting edge prices and included some retail parts and still got pretty close to $500

potent portal
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No you definitely should, and take video of every step as evidence for when the package contains either a fake gpu or a pair of sunglasses

earnest olive
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just going to assume the 10400 won't be stressed too much pushing ~60fps for the 970 and the stock cooler will suffice

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but yeah could definitely toss a $20 cooler in there if budget isn't extremely tight

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10400f + 970 is obviously going to dumpster the gaming performance of a 5600g system

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imo 5600g/5700g pretty much exists for the tiniest sff builds that don't have room for any sort of dgpu

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and they are best in class at that niche

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but for regular desktop users should not even be a consideration

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maybe if they drop prices eventually

stoic island
earnest olive
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i used macrium reflect yesterday

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worked flawlessly

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copied a windows install from 500gb ssd to 1tb ssd

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just be aware that the main partition won't resize itself automatically, you have to do that yourself

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the software allows you to but it's not intuitive

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@waxen pasture ping me if you want help with this

verbal quarry
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what would be the best 500w psu for a budget build?

fossil cedar
stoic island
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Segotep for budget budget, cx for budget

desert gulch
stoic island
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Wat

desert gulch
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There's a pog supernova on sale, lemme grab link

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80+ gold b tier fully modular 650 for $50

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Legit can't beat it rn

stoic island
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I mean

desert gulch
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I think the segoteps even cost more tbh

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The b5 could be worth checking out too, altho I think it went back up in price

stoic island
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Segotep gp is also gold, 50$ for 600w

desert gulch
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Ketchup and mustard cables tho right?

stoic island
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But cx is still a better PSU than both of them

desert gulch
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Really?

stoic island
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Ye

desert gulch
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Isnt cx b tier too?

stoic island
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Gold b tier

desert gulch
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What's the supernova?

stoic island
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Just b tier

desert gulch
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Dang

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And what's cx cost rn?

stoic island
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Heck, segotep gets a higher rating than the g+ lmao

desert gulch
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Lol

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Still good enough imo

stoic island
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But cx nicer if you can get cx

desert gulch
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What's price on it rn?

stoic island
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70$ for 650w

desert gulch
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Damn

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You can almost get a MSI 650 for that lol

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The agf

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And it's an a tier

stoic island
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A-gf went up in price iirc

desert gulch
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Still like 81 on amazon

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Also I just found the best 650 for the price rn lol, beats out supernova, cx and sego

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Its on sale too

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Great deal for a bomb

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Otherwise you have to step up in price to be able to afford a P-GM

stoic island
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Can't even find a-gf lmao

desert gulch
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I'll link

fossil cedar
stoic island
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I mean I think it's out of stock

desert gulch
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Shows in stock for me

desert gulch
fossil cedar
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Meh i suppose

desert gulch
fossil cedar
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It looks cleaner but not worth the extra

desert gulch
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Mr1 idk how it doesn't show in stock for you

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It's same price tho

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Just a tiny same tier difference

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Sego is gold b tier

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Supernova normal b tier

stoic island
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Ig Amazon search just doesn't like me

desert gulch
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Sad

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Does link work?

stoic island
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Ye

desert gulch
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Gud

haughty void
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finally

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goddangit

proud shard
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I am building my first pc this is what I got so far any recommendations or anything I should change

stoic island
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@proud shard to start, what's the reason behind the motherboard and storage?

fossil cedar
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Yeah i would change the storage to sn550 or pilot e or something

fossil cedar
stoic island
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Ye but if no other specific reason

fossil cedar
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I would also with 3600cl18 ram at the minimum 3200 is slow for ryzen 5000

stoic island
#

Could grab like prime b550-a

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Because nzxt annoying

fossil cedar
#

B550 strix prime nicer anyway imo

#

Ye

stoic island
#

Just need them to reply now...

fossil cedar
#

Also the case a bit oven-y looking

stoic island
#

2x2tb WD blue just seems annoying tbh

#

There is a good mx500 2tb sale if they really need the storage

#

GPU pricing wack like always

proud shard
#

I don’t know too much so I gathered sum parts I know and I think was good

fossil cedar
#

@proud shard what's your budget?

proud shard
#

Most I’ll go up too is 2500 maybe a little over

stoic island
#

Do you live near a microcenter

fossil cedar
#

do you really need 4tb of ssd storage as well?

#

It's a lot of ssd storage

proud shard
#

Microcenter is 2 hours away from me and yea that’s tru I think 4tb is a lil over kill

stoic island
#

How much storage do you need in total

proud shard
#

I’m not gonna be doing too much mainly just playing games

stoic island
#

1tb SSD should do just fine to start off tbh

#

Could grab that 2tb mx500 if you really wanted it

fossil cedar
proud shard
#

Says Compatibility: Warning! These parts have potential issues or incompatibilities.

fossil cedar
proud shard
#

Oh alright I might go with that setup u sent me ima do some research on Thoes parts thank you

desert gulch
#

itll let you use the usb c port on the case and it still looks nice

#

and still has bios flashback

#

and its still 10 bucks cheaper than that rog one after everything is all said and done

stoic island
#

lol

#

white makes everything expensive

proud shard
#

I could go for the b550 tomahawk whatever you guys think is good I’ll most likely get because you guys know a lot more then me

#

I want a clean white set up

rich helm
#

what are your opinions on this pc for $150

#

im trying to decide whether i could flip it or not

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with upgrades of course

worn wave
#

Yeah I would think so

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I would buy it for $150

rich helm
#

i mean it seems decent but also like i dont want random pc sitting in my house

vague oracle
#

Server?

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Always can be used for that

worn wave
#

I have multiple PCs and cases in my room and in my attic

#

I got too many cases and servers

rich helm
vague oracle
#

Ahh yeah

rich helm
#

Our icloud storage is full and a server would be useful to store photos and stuff

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it only has 4gb of ram so i cant really run like a minecraft server or anything

worn wave
#

DDR3 usually is pretty cheap

rich helm
#

true

rustic shoal
#

You could probably get an Optiplex 7020/9020 MT with an i7-4790 for around $150.

#

On second thought. Maybe a little more than that. Lol

worn wave
#

In this market it most likely would be more expensive than that

#

But sometimes you can find deals on old Optiplexes from local schools or colleges

#

A local college was selling 8GB RAM 4th gen i5 SFF lenovos for like $50

rustic shoal
#

That’s what I got back into pc again was with i5-4590. Optiplex 7020 SFF.

#

Then realize the power supply type and GPU limited to no power supply requirements. Lol

#

Then I started moving Dell motherboards between different Dell cases to use ATX psus

vague oracle
#

Optiplexes are fairly expensive for what they are these days because people liked to buy them and throw a decent gpu into them

rustic shoal
#

Very true. I have seen way too expensive 3rd Gen intel and a GT 710 or gtx 1030.

haughty void
#

so

rustic shoal
#

I feel bad for some friends I saw who are like, it’s an i7! Yea. 2600. Lol

rich helm
vague oracle
#

Wait why not?

rich helm
#

cause its smoll

vague oracle
#

True

worn wave
#

I used a C2D Dell SFF for a file server

rich helm
#

can you even fit a hard drive in it

worn wave
#

I had a 3.5" and a 2.5"

vague oracle
#

Im pretty sure you can

worn wave
#

I removed the CD drive

vague oracle
#

Bit of duct tape and you’re good to go

worn wave
#

I threw a Core 2 Quad in there with 8GB of RAM

#

Worked pretty good for a super compact file server

#

Then I used spare parts and built a R5 2600 file server

desert gulch
ancient wraith
#

how do i get realtek audio drivers

worn wave
#

Motherboard Support page

#

What motherboard do you have?

ancient wraith
#

i have the file but

#

what do i do after

worn wave
#

Wdym

#

If theres a .inf file right click then press install

ancient wraith
#

i downloaded them from my mobos page what do i do wuth the file

#

ok

#

its doing it

#

then do i restart

worn wave
#

Yes

rustic shoal
#

Those SFFs are not bad, but for gaming you would be stuck at GTX 1650 low profile installed in 4x pcie slot, or a 1030 1 slot.

#

Installed in the 16x. Try to get the Mini Towers with full ATX power supplies.

rustic shoal
#

Or any low profile gpu that does not require a 6 pin. But then there are some PCs that allow for full size gpu and still have the small psu. So weird

frank stirrup
#

And also the 4000d airlfow white

stoic island
#

and 4000d airflow I know white and black prices usually the same

frank stirrup
#

Thats more than 10% cheaper

queen dagger
#

if its not than infinite money glitch hopefully it wont be patched

stoic island
#

eh, it's refurb, could be real

#

refurb gets p big discounts usually

queen dagger
#

oh also

stoic island
queen dagger
#

my main goal is to get a 3080, or maybe a 3090. but i can get a job next year. im wondering if i should get like a 2060 super/2070 or sum in that time frame

queen dagger
stoic island
#

no

#

2060s 2070 and such not good deal right now

queen dagger
#

what would you suggest then?

stoic island
#

I'd say 3060 at least as a start

#

2060/2070 you're looking at used, and most likely scalped right now

queen dagger
#

that i could still play MSFS 2020 with. or like at least 6gb of ram

stoic island
#

which a 3060 will do

queen dagger
#

what if i took a 3050ti out of a laptop, somehow make it into a desktop compatable thing, and used it?

#

you never know

obsidian wigeon
#

It's not possible

queen dagger
#

you tried?

obsidian wigeon
#

But 3050ti wouldn't do msfs well anyway

#

4 gigs vram

queen dagger
#

not wrong

#

would you say there would be a bottleneck with a 3060 and a 5900x? i know thta ppl like to say that if its the same gen stuff, it isnt a bottleneck. im not sure tho

obsidian wigeon
#

The 3060 would be a bottleneck instead in this case

queen dagger
#

a p500a ik im so funny

#

yeah thats what i thaught

rich helm
obsidian wigeon
#

Well I mean, 3060 isn't quite enough to max the game out

#

But gpu bottleneck isn't a bad thing

hushed plaza
#

I was wondering if there was a SSD(s) that could replace the HDD for a model HP laptop 15-db0xxx, and if so, what would be the sizes of the SSDs?

obsidian wigeon
#

You just get fps capped if there's enough vram

obsidian wigeon
#

That's what the hdd is anyway, 2.5 inches sata

queen dagger
#

im not sure about all of this, at the end of the day. the chance of another skyrocket in gpu prices is very possible. and yes ik we are still among one

obsidian wigeon
#

Any should work, but I recommend WD Blue, SU800 and MX500

hushed plaza
#

Ahh, is there a best choice website to obtain one?

obsidian wigeon
#

Well, any that's cheapest in tbh

#

Amazon, best buy, newegg and such

hushed plaza
#

Alrighty, thank you soo much, I appreciate it a lot

obsidian wigeon
#

yw

hushed plaza
#

Is this one a smart choice, Crucial MX500 1TB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD

obsidian wigeon
#

Yah, that's good

#

However, I have a deal for ya, lemme look for it

#

uhm, it's a 2tb but

hushed plaza
#

Well, to be fair, I won't be needing to much space, as its more of just to allow my laptop to run again, since I play my games through GeForce Now(practically every single game), especially since the laptop has a integrated graphics card,
As I'm also saving for an actual gaming laptop(would've gone for a desktop, but lack of space makes that hard)

obsidian wigeon
#

Mhm, fair

hushed plaza
#

Again, thank you, its very much appreciated for the help
:D

obsidian wigeon
#

Yah, it's no problem

wary tundra
#

@broken zodiac very very cool

#

A lot of monitors but I love it

frank stirrup
wary tundra
#

I agree

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but it still look cool

frank stirrup
#

Ehh i personally dont like precariously mounted monitors that could fall on my head and give me a concussion

wary tundra
#

assuming the worst

fading oyster
#

can someone help me out on airflow in my case please

fossil cedar
marsh adder
#

not really a build but I'm getting a new used laptop later today

#

It's a ThinkPad E14, with an NVMe and 1x16GB of RAM. I'll be checking the keyboard for broken keys, the screen for scratches, the battery health with Lenovo Vantage, and that the RAM is actually 16GB with Task Manager.
Anything else I should check for? I plan to wipe the Windows install and upgrade it to Arch once I get home.

#

The seller will let me test it at a cafe before buying

fossil cedar
#

Sounds all good

prime plover
#

Do I upgrade my r5 3600x to r9 3600x

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
prime plover
fossil cedar
prime plover
#

I mostly just play Mc. It would be big boy power flex.

fossil cedar
#

Don't bother, wait for amd 6000 or 7000 or intel 12th/13th gen

prime plover
#

Ok sounds good. My gpu is probably the weakest part of my pc anyway

prime plover
#

Rx 550

fossil cedar
#

Ahh

#

Yep

prime plover
#

Was gonna get a 3070 but gpu shortage 😆

fossil cedar
#

Fair enough yeah

broken zodiac
prime plover
#

My computer somewhat routinely goes black for a second or two. Is that just my graphics card, power supply, other?

frank stirrup
prime plover
#

no it does it while Im playing games or on my browser or really at any time

#

Sometimes it happens so long that it says no signal from my display port.

frank stirrup
#

thats not normal tbh

#

cpu and gpu?

prime plover
#

yeah it's kinda rough when im smoking an fps and then the string goes blank for 5 seconds.

fossil cedar
#

@prime plover your cpu is 3600x and gpu rx550 correct?

prime plover
#

temps for gpu and cpu are always ~50C

fossil cedar
#

All drivers and windows updated?

prime plover
#

yep

frank stirrup
#

ddu and reinstall graphics drivers

prime plover
#

what does ddu mean

fossil cedar
#

Display driver uninstaller

frank stirrup
prime plover
#

That looks pretty drastic. Does it uninstall and then reinstall after?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

Then you have to reinstall

prime plover
#

oof

#

ok

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

I know this isn't really a build but i can probably get more help here than #electronics

#

So my dads work laptop has HDMI out

#

He uses a 4K monitor @30hz, but it's set to 1080p

#

When he switches the resolution to 4k, the screen goes black every time he changes windows

#

and when he opens the start menu the screen will go black

#

For now we will stick with 1080p but does anyone have any ideas why this is happening

frank stirrup
#

strange are there any drivers for the monitor?

little osprey
#

Yes we installed them

frank stirrup
#

Uninstalling em do anything?

#

Have you tried to set a custom resolution?

little osprey
#

I did change the scaling size of his apps without restarting so maybe some windows had to rescale from 1080p to 4k

little osprey
frank stirrup
#

a custom resolution

#

using cru

little osprey
#

So just the same thing but custom

#

Cause it was at 4k30

#

and did the black screen stuff

frank stirrup
#

use whatever grapics software the pc has or CRU to set a custom 4k30 resolution

#

like amd or nvidia gpu software

little osprey
#

Alright i'll try that when he's on break

#

thx for the help

fossil cedar
little osprey
#

No idea atm, i'll try to find out when i can tho

#

It's using a dvi dual link cable actually

fossil cedar
#

Or specs of the pc will do too

little osprey
#

Converted to hdmi on both ends

fossil cedar
#

There ya go lol

little osprey
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

yeah get an hdmi to hdmi single cable

little osprey
#

I'll get an hdmi cable and try that out

#

(when hes done with his meetings )

fossil cedar
#

@little osprey

little osprey
#

Lul

#

Okay well i'll find a real hdmi cable this time

fossil cedar
#

Yuh

queen dagger
#

what would yall say is the best fan config for air flow in a p500a?

fossil cedar
queen dagger
fossil cedar
#

front 3 intake top 3 exhause but slower rpm

#

imo

queen dagger
#

its on the left side, looking at it from the front side

fossil cedar
#

can you send a pic with a circle around it

queen dagger
#

sorry for bad quality but this is what i mean

stoic island
#

stock setup is good enough

#

nothing else is needed

queen dagger
#

wym? just the 6 fans?

stoic island
#

just the 3 stock fans

#

that's all you need

queen dagger
#

with a 3060 (or 3080 we'll see)

#

?

stoic island
#

yes

#

that's all you need

#

even if you have a 3990x with a 3090, that's all you really need

#

sure you can slap a 360 rad on top and such

#

but it's not gonna be that much improvement for just case airflow

queen dagger
#

with the 3 fans in pull config?

buoyant crystal
#

yo so i was wondering whats a good budget option for 16 gb of ram im thinking of upgrading because i only have 8 and im on a budget

stoic island
#

3 fans just pull

buoyant crystal
#

i have a pre built so idk

stoic island
#

hwinfo64

fossil cedar
queen dagger
fossil cedar
queen dagger
jade scarab
#

YO

#

Everyone

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

@fossil cedar

#

What do you think

fossil cedar
#

Crap

#

Unless you need an apu

jade scarab
#

Why is it crap

fossil cedar
#

They are already tested

#

5600g performs around Ryzen 5 3600 level

#

Good integrated graphics but that's the only good thing about

jade scarab
#

What VEGA is it

#

What Graphics is it

queen dagger
stoic island
#

It's just 8cu vega graphcs and 7cu

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

Should I get this

#

Or nah

fossil cedar
#

No

#

You should not

jade scarab
#

Alright then

#

I’ll just get the base 5600x

fossil cedar
#

Ryzen 5 5600x and a dedicated gpu will whoop it's ass anyday

jade scarab
#

Then I’m gonna take it out

#

And buy a 1070

#

Or 1650

#

For around 250-200

#

@fossil cedar

#

Later on I’m gonna buy a 1TB HDD and use it for games in the meantime I’m gonna brows normally on my pc with a M.2 Ssd

#

I was told always keep the storage that Has Windows on it different to the Storage you have games on

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
queen dagger
jade scarab
fossil cedar
rich helm
brittle tinsel
#

Which is a better fan?
Corsair LL120 63 CFM 120 mm Fan
Arctic P14 PWM PST CO 140mm fan

I personally have the arctics but a friend wants to know

earnest olive
#

gonna have to go with the p14

#

140mm fans are generally better than 120mm when you can fit them

#

and arctics are great

#

also cgoaOMEGALULrsair

flint sapphire
#

If your going purely off aesthetics though corsair would probably win cuz rainbow software

earnest olive
#

icue takes more cpu usage than genshin impact

#

xd

little osprey
#

Lmfao

flint sapphire
#

Sacrifice one of your cores to the icue rgb god

scarlet rampart
#

Would this be a good case?

obsidian wigeon
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
scarlet rampart
#

I got the cougar MX330-G air

fossil cedar
#

A nice case too

obsidian wigeon
#

^

jade scarab
# fossil cedar A nice case too

I’m gonna get the Acer Nitro 75HZ 1ms Fhd Monitor IPS for 60 with a Kind of bent stand but it’s not that bad is it a good price for 60 I might even get it for 50

fossil cedar
jade scarab
fossil cedar
#

Fair enough

jade scarab
jade scarab
#

Why would it not be slow

obsidian wigeon
#

It would slow down

#

But not noticeably

fossil cedar
#

Well a small bit it wont benchmark as good but you won't notice the difference

obsidian wigeon
#

Unless it as no dram tho

frank stirrup
#

Sata you would feel it slightly

obsidian wigeon
#

Without dram it could drop quite a bit, but not impactful enough to notice

frank stirrup
#

Nvme be chillin

#

Only if you were counting seconds tho

#

Not otherwise

obsidian wigeon
#

ye lol

#

wth

#

windows saved 6 gigs of update backup for me

#

no wonder my ssd lost some space lmao

frank stirrup
#

Macos takes 100gb on my ssd

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

Ye

frank stirrup
#

You have to be counting seconds

#

Otherwise you wont feel the difference

obsidian wigeon
#

i kinda have to think about my ssd whenever i install things into it cause it's only 120 gigs

fossil cedar
#

Have to be counting micro seconds

obsidian wigeon
#

tiny ssd

frank stirrup
#

Its got an i20-10900KFC by zotac

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

Literally a god tier cpu

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
#

I do be chillin

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

Am doing mafs

#

I no like mafs

fossil cedar
#

Why no like mafs

frank stirrup
#

Because its boring

#

I dont like boring things

vague oracle
#

Mafs is fun tho

frank stirrup
#

Magic 8 ball bot is mafs good?

half muralBOT
#

:8ball: | Most likely, RAWR

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

Is MATHS good

half muralBOT
#

:8ball: | Most likely, RAWR

vague oracle
#

The bot agrees with me

frank stirrup
#

I mean hes a bot

#

Maths is his people

#

Of course he gonna say yee

half muralBOT
#

:8ball: | Ask again later, Patokav

fossil cedar
#

:(

#

Forgot i can't do the thing in the command either

frank stirrup
#

Tortol bot do u hate pato?

half muralBOT
#

:8ball: | You may rely on it, RAWR

frank stirrup
#

XD

fossil cedar
vague oracle
#

Lmaoo

frank stirrup
#

Tortol bot do you love alec?

half muralBOT
#

:8ball: | My reply is no, RAWR

frank stirrup
#

XD

frank stirrup
#

Tortol bot do you love me?

half muralBOT
#

:8ball: | It is certain, RAWR

frank stirrup
#

There we go

#

I am the chosen one

fossil cedar
#

Y'all msi made a case called the mpg quiteude

vague oracle
#

Wut?

fossil cedar
#

It's a h510 competitor oven

vague oracle
#

Sounds about right

fossil cedar
#

Full name

obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

tight sorrel
#

can we stop with the "cardboard pc" schtick in the build-pics channel? that joke has now been done to death

potent portal
#

Unfortunately the way the internet works is right now someone is just discovering that and thinks it's the most hilarious thing ever so they have to share it

fossil cedar
#

You gotta be quick tho

#

3090 is decent price too but they not worth it in general

jade scarab
#

It’s been there for 3 hours

#

@fossil cedar

#

I think the outage is gone

#

4 hours

fossil cedar
#

It's just not as bad

jade scarab
#

How comes they have all these here

fossil cedar
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯ people will be in work etc

#

Not as bad in the uk anymore

#

Afaik scan don't drop as often as currys anyway

jade scarab
#

I would buy it I don’t have money tho

#

@fossil cedar

#

3070 ti

fossil cedar
#

Nice

jade scarab
#

@fossil cedar 3080 to

#

Ti

#

I am so confused

#

Why are these still all in stock

frank stirrup
#

Usually when things are in stock, it means no one bought em...

jade scarab
#

Bro are you seeing what’s in stock

#

These would usually go in a Heartbeat

obsidian wigeon
#

zotac

fossil cedar
#

Stock situation isn't as bad in the uk as other regions, people say prices kinda dropped a bit and are probably huffing the copium of MSRP graphics cards again

jade scarab
#

Don’t matter what they are

obsidian wigeon
#

^

jade scarab
#

They ar GPUS

obsidian wigeon
#

(to pato)

#

uk doesn't suffer as much

#

that's why

jade scarab
#

I am actually happy now

frank stirrup
#

as pato said stock situations arent as bad everywhere

obsidian wigeon
#

Besides the price is inflated

jade scarab
#

3060 OC

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

For 560

frank stirrup
#

I could always go to a pc shop nearbuy and buy any gpu

obsidian wigeon
#

Yeah that's inflated as heck

fossil cedar
#

The gigabyte one would be the buy for 450 Chef_Kiss

jade scarab
#

No but there is a 3060 for 450

frank stirrup
#

entirety of this year XD

fossil cedar
#

@jade scarab an oc card just means it has a very small factory overclock not worth the extra money

frank stirrup
#

3090s, 3080s, 3070s, and 3060s

#

also their ti models

fossil cedar
#

Nice

frank stirrup
#

never went outta stock here

fossil cedar
#

Wack prices?

frank stirrup
#

3X msrp

fossil cedar
#

Wonder why they didn't go oos

frank stirrup
#

same

#

great deal honestly

fossil cedar
#

Indood

rich helm
frank stirrup
#

LOL @fossil cedar That hmz guy got banned for scam link

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
misty heron
#

hey i was helping my friend make his computer yesterday and when we booted it up it worked but it didnt read the ssd so we reseated the ssd but then now the monitor says it has no connections. any ideas?

fossil cedar
misty heron
#

We entered it before the monitor problem