#building-and-recc-chat

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sand falcon
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Do you care about your fans matching?

untold vessel
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Nope

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Not at all

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Not going to even look at my pc

sinful hornet
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Also, just as an added note, i think something more like the second would be better due to the rgb that i currently have being more just "lines" versus just a large surface area covered with lights :/

sand falcon
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Is fan

untold vessel
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hold on

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why two different fans

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is one for top and one for bottom

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like does airflow need to be different in different places

sand falcon
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No, they're just different fans

untold vessel
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also do you have a link to a better psu

sand falcon
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Here's another one

untold vessel
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oh so I should choose whichever of the 3 links is the cheapest?

sand falcon
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PSU

untold vessel
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tysm

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also, best buy has a sale on cpus right now, that's why it listed it as 200

sand falcon
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Main difference between the links is how much air they push and how loud they are

untold vessel
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what's better, more push or less sound?

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for this pc which do I need more

stoic island
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don't use the cfm measurement to compare fans, the listed cfm is usually not accurate and usually not comparable btw

little osprey
stoic island
sand falcon
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Pcpp cfm sucks

stoic island
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interesting fans

little osprey
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i want the fans to match

stoic island
stoic island
little osprey
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what psu should i get

stoic island
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A-gf 750w

little osprey
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thought about the thermaltake thoughpower gx1

stoic island
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gx1 is fine too

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but a-gf is great for the price

stoic island
untold vessel
little osprey
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well im having no front fans

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my exhaust fans will be on the side panel

stoic island
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wack

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still would change board

little osprey
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what would be a good budget board?

stoic island
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MSI Z490-a pro or Z590-a pro

little osprey
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what about the z490 edge wifi?

stoic island
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might as well get a z590 pro wifi

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but works too

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they all have pretty good vrms for the price

little osprey
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getting the z490 pro a

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what about drives and ram?

earnest olive
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the prime b560m-k is pretty bad but i can't find data on the prime b560m-a

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vrms on the b560m-k hit 107C with an i5-11400 running blender

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asus's product lineup is so weird

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what do all these letters mean lol

little osprey
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i dont even mess with primes lol

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ill only use tuff or strix

earnest olive
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i just don't buy asus

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i can't stand asus bios

little osprey
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i like asus bios

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i like it better than msi

earnest olive
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asus is just the quirky girl that has to be different from all the others

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all the other manufacturers pretty much agree on feature names

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and then asus is like

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XMP? NO, AI OVERCLOCK TUNER.

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i couldn't find xmp on the one asus board i've had until i googled it

little osprey
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i got my 750w 80+gold fully modular stix psu for $50 brand new

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theyre normally 200+

earnest olive
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probably stolen

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when people sell brand new items that cheap very high chance it's stolen and by someone who isn't familiar with the value of what they stole

little osprey
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ehhh

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got it 3 years ago, fbi havent knocked yet

earnest olive
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i mean it's not like you committed the crime

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also i don't think the fbi would get involved in something that trivial lmao

little osprey
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lol

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but yeah, the plastic wrap around the box was still there

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@stoic island what you think about the MSI MAG B560 TORPEDO?

vital raven
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Hello

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Have a prebuilt and i want to switch out parts to make load time faster, what parts in a pc would help my load time if i replaced them. I think i have to get a better ssd but I’m not sure

stoic island
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decent nuff

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ssd would be good

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dual channel ram if you only have 1 stick atm

little osprey
stoic island
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yes

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torpedo good board but b560 is b560 yaknow, vrms don't matter as much since no oc

little osprey
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i dont plan on doing that

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tbh its either gonna be a build then sell or give to my younger brother

ancient wraith
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How do I fix this

little osprey
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let it finish and try again

ancient wraith
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I have keeps doing it

little osprey
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cancel the update

ancient wraith
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I've tried it in safe mode too

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Ik but shouldn't I update it

little osprey
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not really

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plus 11 about to release

ancient wraith
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Cmon how do I fix this

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It won't finish

little osprey
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thats all i can say

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maybe a fresh reinstall but thats it

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but then most likely youll lose everything on the drive

little osprey
ancient wraith
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How do I cancel

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It's been on this for hours

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@little osprey

open oxide
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hi guys

open oxide
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i think you should dont do this but you can force turn off the pc

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then i guess it can work?

keen fractal
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I am thinking of buying a ryzen 7 3700x and I have a b450 motherboard should I buy it?

open oxide
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Hmm

hallow glen
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uh what

junior tangle
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typo

hallow glen
junior tangle
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frick

open oxide
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This may help you @keen fractal

mild shadow
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i posted about my 3080 i managed to get a bit ago for msrp so this is the entire build

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little osprey
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@keen fractal I'd go b550 or x570

open oxide
keen fractal
mild shadow
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managing cables took years in that tiny case but it looks so clean

open oxide
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Yess

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It’s very clean

mild shadow
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and it’s a beast

open oxide
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Oh

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O

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Ok bye i have a test now i gtg

mild shadow
little osprey
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Y'all would hate my build

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It's not clean at all

mild shadow
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as long as there aren’t too many cables in front that’s ok

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the back doesn’t really matter but i still spent too long routing it all cleanly

untold vessel
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Hold on, Bob, which HDD should I get, then? I see that the Barracuda is a little faster, but why should I get the WD Blue?

little osprey
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I'd go barracuda

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I have like 5 of em

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No issues

sand falcon
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About the same speed and the WD is cheaper

little osprey
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Seagate is better quality tho

stoic island
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wat

little osprey
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From my experience

stoic island
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also higher end nas drives don't count for consumer quality :P

little osprey
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I've had multiple WDs die in 6 months at the same usage as Seagate which have lasted me 3+ years

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Same size, storage, and speed too

earnest olive
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ive never had a hard drive die

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ever

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i pulled out a 21 year old hard drive out of a pentium 3 laptop that hadn't been turned on in probably 15 years

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still worked perfectly fine with no problems

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still had files on it too

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recovered a bunch of photos that we thought were lost out of a 14 year old laptop drive by plugging it right into a modern ryzen system

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using a 7 year old drive in my main rig right now

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have had an external drive thats been carried around and beaten up by textbooks and stuff

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perfectly fine

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and i'm basically the unluckiest person ever when it comes to having hardware fail

sand falcon
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I've had one drive die, a toshiba

sand falcon
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Also a flaky cheap SanDisk SSD

open oxide
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Hi

fading oyster
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hey guys is this a good pc?

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i was thinking of just upgrading the case, cooling, and psu but now i'm thinking of just selling it and building one myself

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what should i do?

sand falcon
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I take it you already have the computer?

fading oyster
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ya i do

sand falcon
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This is solid

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I'd definitely keep at least some of the parts, GPU especially

fading oyster
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ya definitely

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i was just gonna upgrade the psu and the case

sand falcon
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Sounds good

fading oyster
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bc the psu is only 500w

sand falcon
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Should be fine, the 3060 doesn't really draw that much power

fading oyster
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ehh it's kinda like bare minimum tho i would prefer some extra power

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i was gonna get an evga 650 w

sand falcon
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Which one?

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Some of the evga PSUs are hot garbage, some are good

fading oyster
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i was gonna get the evga supernova ga

sand falcon
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Okay, not bad

fading oyster
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and then i was gonna get the phanteks eclipse p360a case and a lian li galahad 240mm aio

sand falcon
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Hmm

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Seems like a plan

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Pity it's not the 11700k

restive turtle
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Is it ok to plug only half on the motherboard and still plug the 8pin on the psu

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worn wave
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Yes

earnest olive
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board pulls power, psu does not push power

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board will only ask for what it needs

untold vessel
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Intel

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Before you say anything

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Just wait for Bob

desert gulch
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what

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your dream build needs more ram

untold vessel
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Also click the link

desert gulch
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128 isnt that good

untold vessel
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I think so too

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What should I go for

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aNy rEcCOmEnDatIoNS?

desert gulch
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either super expensive ballistix 5100mt/s or high capacity

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ballistix god tier die is kinda nice

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like 800 bucks for 16 gigs tho

untold vessel
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I was going to say

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5100 is the way

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I'll change it

untold vessel
desert gulch
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sure

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not bad for 5100mt/s

untold vessel
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Hm hm

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ok

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64 GB of 5100 Ram

subtle halo
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@celest horizon :( b450 wont boot if cpu is installed

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Sadge

celest horizon
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It boots without cpu installed?

subtle halo
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It should

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Its tomahawk baby anyway

celest horizon
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???

subtle halo
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They lit up

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Without anything

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But if i install cpu

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No power

celest horizon
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oh

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Have you gotten a replacement mobo?

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Ok, so mobo is toast

subtle halo
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I killed it last week by flip the switch of ups because it stucks on shutdown :(

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Because gimp can't kill process access denied i tried to shutdown

subtle halo
# celest horizon Ok, so mobo is toast

https://youtu.be/PtSNcZLyNaU found a similar scenario

YouTube
Tech Cemetery
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max Repair - Won't power on with CPU installed

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/techcemetery
Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/techcemetery
Repair Requests: https://discord.gg/ZuzDqZwMfJ

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▶ Play video
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But i dont understand it haha

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I gues mobo broke xD

celest horizon
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Yeah, rma that board and get another b450 or something

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They should be cheap used, <$100

subtle halo
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Its too late forks

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Only year

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Im already 6 months past xD

subtle halo
tulip thicket
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hello

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is anyone active?

celest horizon
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I would watch some mobo repair tutorials by zoras tech or buildzoid

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Get a DMM and start probing around

tulip thicket
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does anyone have part recomendations for an atx mid tower build?

celest horizon
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Meshify C

earnest olive
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careful with meshify c make sure your planned video card will fit

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it's a bit small

little osprey
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What's rma status lol

earnest olive
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they haven't received it yet

fossil cedar
subtle halo
fossil cedar
subtle halo
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I only accept dual chamber cases now

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XD

fossil cedar
subtle halo
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No its just theres good space to do cable management at the back xD

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Also i dont buy lian li chamber xD

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I go copy cat aslong dual chamber

fossil cedar
subtle halo
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Kinda like this

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My current case hard to close the back haha i hate using molex

stable cypress
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Good mobo for 5900x?

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5600x*

subtle halo
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X570

fossil cedar
subtle halo
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Haven't seen vrm test yet on 5000 series

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On 550 .. i seem 3000 ones.i do like aorus pro b550 one

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Tons of port and fan hub and can do 47c at full load using 3900x.. if someone have 5000 series test leme know

fossil cedar
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Nice board

subtle halo
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Aorus master also is good 37c vrm

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Full load 3900x

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Still we dont know 5000 seties test

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Heres 3950x oc full load

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robust lake
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Aorus master is like 700$ i think

stable cypress
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Just swapped it for a 3600

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Using the x570

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Is that good with a 3060 ti?

fossil cedar
stable cypress
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mm ok

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power supply would be a 650 w or 700 w right

fossil cedar
stable cypress
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ok

little osprey
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Any big white case recommendation 🤔 3090 vision is bigger than my 3070 vision so it barely fits uh

vague oracle
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What’s your current case?

little osprey
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4000D

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it fits in actually but looks weird lol

foggy gazelle
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Since they are both roughly the same cost, which should I get first, a Western Digital Black P10 4TB with a two year covers-everything service plan, or the Corsair 5000D Airflow case? My current case is the ThermalTake Level 20 MT and the reason I need the bigger drive is for my Steam library.

fossil cedar
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7000d airflow

fossil cedar
foggy gazelle
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Well, my 1TB Samsung 970 EVO is less than 60GB away from being full. 618GB is just from my current yet small list of steam games. 101GB is from the two Lutris games I have and their expansion packs. 78GB is from my Dropbox stuff.

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The rest is OS system files and a bunch of random stuff

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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I’d get an internal HDD not external

foggy gazelle
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No room for internal on the Level 20 MT. That's why I want the 5000D. Can mount up to five 2.5" internal drives. Motherboard has room for two NVMe drives.

fossil cedar
foggy gazelle
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Hook up, log in, point Steam to the drive, and go.

fossil cedar
foggy gazelle
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Would be more convenient considering that I am on Linux and there's a new OS version every six months

fossil cedar
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You wouldn't need to wipe your other drives when updating os?

foggy gazelle
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Nope

fossil cedar
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So then there's no diff lol

foggy gazelle
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No room at all in the Level 20 MT, though. Wiring is a nightmare and the GPU barely fits because of how the wires run through.

fossil cedar
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Idk it's up to you lol

sand falcon
vague oracle
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Now that’s a part list

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I’d still go for dual A100s tho

sand falcon
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No graphics output on the a100

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Also I don't really feel like making sure the case has the right airflow for those things

vague oracle
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Yeah I know about the no graphics output

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One of them already needs a lot of airflow, two of them sounds painful

sand falcon
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Theoretically you could do 2 a6000 and two a100

vague oracle
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Not really practical tho

sand falcon
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The 3995wx has plenty of PCIe available, it's perfectly practical

vague oracle
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Oh yeah forgot that we’re talking threadripper

untold vessel
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hold on are we talking about my troll build

sand falcon
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Yes

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It sucked

vague oracle
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Yep

sand falcon
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Might swap in a 7603 though, or wait for the 5995wx

untold vessel
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for a build ACTUALLY that expensive? what would be the best way to build one?

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is there such thing as dual threadrippers

sand falcon
sand falcon
vague oracle
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Not sure about threadrippera but wasn’t there dual Xeon at one point?

sand falcon
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I could probably get a dual epyc build put together with the 7603

untold vessel
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BOB LMFAO

untold vessel
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HE INCLUDED FACE MASKS

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AND 2 6LB FIELD CANNONS

sand falcon
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Don't want people stealing your computer, gotta invest in home security

untold vessel
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Jesus Christ I didn’t even think of that

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When your build is as expensive as a house, precautions need to be taken

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I made a $1,000,000 Build yesterday that consisted of 100 8K Monitors

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10x10 Display

sand falcon
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That's gonna take a lot of quadros

untold vessel
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A lot. of. quadros.

sand falcon
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You'd have to run them in x8, maybe even x4

untold vessel
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Bob could we get banned if we were to add a custom component to that list labeled “slave” with a random picture of some guy off the internet

sand falcon
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Probably

fossil cedar
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Why would you do that bruh

sand falcon
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Just call him Jenkins

untold vessel
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“Custom: 5000 Pounds of Metric Topsoil. 100 Calories.”

sand falcon
untold vessel
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“Custom: Plans to consume Topsoil”

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Custom: “Jenkins. Slightly-Unwilling Helper”

sand falcon
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Did the math, 100 displays assuming 4 displays per Quadro (they would struggle, but it'd work) would take 25 quadros, or 400 PCIe lanes for x16 operation

untold vessel
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Is that possible to build theoretically

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Is there such a thing as a multiple motherboard build?

sand falcon
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AMD has up to 128 lanes for direct access, so unless we set up some sort of mux we would have to run then in x4

untold vessel
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assuming power is no issue

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Hmmmm

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Could we make a 16x16 display

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just so everything is in 4

sand falcon
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Would only need a single motherboard and use a lot of risers

untold vessel
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wait what

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what’s a riser?

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don’t mobos usually have 4ish PCIe slots?

sand falcon
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Yes

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These are AMD server/workstation motherboards we're talking though

untold vessel
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Are these risers the Mobo equivalent of a power strip for outlets?

sand falcon
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Kinda

untold vessel
vague oracle
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LMFAOOOO

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The damn field cannons

sand falcon
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We'd take splitters, set the x16 slots to 4x4, run risers to the GPUs

untold vessel
sand falcon
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It's quite reasonable actually

vague oracle
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I love how everything is so expensive then there’s shipping

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0.04

fleet pagoda
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Why is my monitor showing no signal when dp is plugged in

vague oracle
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Is the other end of the cable plugged into your GPU?

fleet pagoda
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Yeah the lights are working

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Is the ram messed up possibly

zealous cedar
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@tired turtle Why do you have an Xbox One controller inside of your computer case

tired turtle
fleet pagoda
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I fixed it the ram wasnt in all the way

icy kestrel
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What’s the difference between the i5 10600k and the i5 10600kf

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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So what does it mean when it has k and f

fossil cedar
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K and f means it's overclockable but has no integrated graphics

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Just k means overclockable with integrated graphics

icy kestrel
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Ok thanks

fossil cedar
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Np :)

fleet pagoda
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Whats msrp for the amp holo 3070

maiden pawn
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Probably almost $1,000

fleet pagoda
maiden pawn
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That’s probably MSRP

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In Stock, nuts

fleet pagoda
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960 for me w shipping and tax

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But

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Dont need it so it doesnt matter

vague oracle
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Eww 2 fan 3070

tired turtle
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@wide sparrow chromax white Chef_Kiss

obsidian wigeon
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zotac bad

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fleet pagoda
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Yeah buts its better than 1100 that you would see from someone else

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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So I know Zotac is bad but what about it is exactly bad

fossil cedar
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Also for gfs pc we got her a zotac 1650 super cuz it was the cheapest but it kept dying, fans ramped up to 100% and screen died until restart ;-; replaced with rx 580 and was fine, ik that most likely was just bad luck but just pushes me to dislike it more

vague oracle
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Doesn’t it also have weird power limits?

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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Ahh ok

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I meant Zotac in general

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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Makes sense

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I wonder why I didn’t go for MSI for my 6800xt

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Not that I’m complaining tho

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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Gigabyte Aorus Master

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I spent an extra $100 for the gigabyte

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But temps are amazing

fossil cedar
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Over msi?

vague oracle
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Yeah

fossil cedar
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Ventus or gaming x trio tho lol

vague oracle
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Gaming X trio

fossil cedar
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Damm

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I would have went msi then lol

vague oracle
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Why?

fossil cedar
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Cheaper and just as good cooling iirc

vague oracle
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Can’t beat 50-60 load temps tho

fossil cedar
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Pretty sure gaming x trio is great cooler

vague oracle
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Really?

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I’m still happy with my gigabyte, that lcd screen is fun to mess around with

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I’ll honestly kinda miss it when I upgrade

fossil cedar
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Ohh screen = worth extra 100 XD

vague oracle
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XD

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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Also an extra 100 towards a future upgrade

fossil cedar
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Yep

vague oracle
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My warranty allows me to trade in the card for store credit of how much I paid for the card

fossil cedar
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Nice

vague oracle
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So pretty much free upgrade to 40 series Nvidia if I really wanted to

fossil cedar
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Goes into store in 2024

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Sup 👀

vague oracle
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LMAO

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yo where’s my new card

fossil cedar
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Exactly

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Heres this entry level piece of garbo now XD

vague oracle
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2 cards for the price of one XD

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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I wonder if that’d be possible

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I also really doubt a gpu will cost 1400 then so I might be able to get an upgrade to my cpu or ram

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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True

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But they might just not be worth the price compared to lower offerings

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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Not even 1080ti?

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How big was the difference between it and the 1080?

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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1080 is comparable to a 2070, 1080ti is a a lil better than 2070s

stoic island
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ehhhhh

desert gulch
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i mean ish

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not perfect comparison

stoic island
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I'd place 2070 between 1080 and 1080ti

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and 2070s I believe can be better than the 1080ti

desert gulch
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not usually

stoic island
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there's also dlss and all but ignoring that for now

desert gulch
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yeah

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im talking pure raster

stoic island
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me too

wide sparrow
earnest olive
desert gulch
vague oracle
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Not that expensive

desert gulch
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yea well im kinda broke

earnest olive
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well i didn't put a screen on my gpu but the 7" screen in my case cost me like $65

desert gulch
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that would send me into bankruptcy lol

earnest olive
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something like $57 for the screen $8 for the adhesive magnets

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much larger than any of the built in screens on components

desert gulch
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oof

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if gas prices went down a bit maybe then i could afford that kek

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its like 3.60 here

earnest olive
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it's anywhere from 4.30-5 here

desert gulch
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damn

earnest olive
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depending on where you go

desert gulch
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and rn im stuck on paying for diesel lol

earnest olive
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oh

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yikes

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wait

desert gulch
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this guy takes a ton of money at the fuel pump lol

earnest olive
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diesel is only 3.60 for you?

desert gulch
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and im still paying it off

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nah gas

earnest olive
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i've seen diesel hit 6.35 here lol

desert gulch
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but tiny truck isnt quite legal yet

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damn

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atleast i get almost 1k miles on a tank

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but then i die when i have to fill it lol

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20mpg highway is slowly killing me

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diesel is about $4 here

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and thats if you use offroad diesel

earnest olive
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i have a tiny 8gal gas tank but 50mpg highway

desert gulch
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hybrid?

earnest olive
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yeah

desert gulch
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nicee

shut rampart
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I been sitting here for like 15mins now

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vague oracle
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Sounds about right

shut rampart
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You sure?

violet crown
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What would be the difference between intel core i9-10900x?
AMD ryzen 9 3950x?
Is a Amd threadripper 3970x is a bit overkill for standard use unless specifically for mining

Do you notice a huge difference in any application with those cpu?
I'm looking to to mine monero with the CPU and have 2 gpus mining ETC

thorn heart
wide sparrow
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Mmmm

cursive tusk
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when do you guys turn off your computers

stoic island
#

Neva

shrewd fjord
fossil cedar
little osprey
earnest olive
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i used magnets to mount it on my case

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a monitor rather than a phone

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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7" ips with almost no bezels

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using standard hdmi

mild lance
#

Can I get some advice about case modifications and mounting plates?

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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yeah

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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ive seen someone go the phone route

little osprey
#

up to you

earnest olive
#

who says i have an anime girl on it

mild lance
#

The mounting plate doesn’t quite fit in the back of my case… is it worth making a cut on the case to make it fit?

earnest olive
fossil cedar
mild lance
little osprey
earnest olive
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i just sold my phone to my friend instead

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i had to upgrade much earlier than expected cause i switched networks and they didn't like my old phone

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so it was pretty competent still

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he plays genshin on it no problem lol

fossil cedar
# mild lance

Make sure your board is lined up properly screw wise on the other side

earnest olive
mild lance
little osprey
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ok 600 60hz "homework"

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same difference

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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i put an anime boy on it once does that count

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my sister hates android phones lol

fossil cedar
mild lance
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Ah ok.

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The motherboard is on properly. I’ve checked that.

fossil cedar
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Okay

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And the io is flush with the place for it to be?

mild lance
#

Yeah

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I think I’ll have to unscrew the mobo and slide the plate behind it instead.

fossil cedar
#

Mb yeah

mild lance
#

Didn’t want to do that but probably my only option

earnest olive
#

i always install cooler to test before even putting mobo in the case

mild lance
#

It’s a noctua nhd15. It’s compatible with my mobo

earnest olive
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like test the whole system

unkempt garnet
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Bro

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Someone get on a call with me

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I need help building pls

sharp tundra
#

hey guys, was still wondering if anyone knew of the best gaming laptop for $1700

desert gulch
#

replace the ram to dual channel in this beast and its perfect

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maybe storage too if you want that

earnest olive
#

this is how asus applies liquid metal?

6c656118467e989dbe845baabc0c1662.png
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tons of reviews stating the gpu was DOA or died after a few days

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looking at their liquid metal application it's no wonder why lol

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someone ordered 3 and all 3 died within 4 hours

little osprey
#

Wtf

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That's

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That's a bloody mess

earnest olive
#

there is literally liquid metal all over the substrate

pale dust
#

thats an actual nightmare

earnest olive
#

thats gpu insta death

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like come on asus

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truly horrifying

fading oyster
#

does anybody know if i can swap out the psu on this pc

earnest olive
#

yes, the omen 25L/30L use standard ATX power supplies

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the question is why

fading oyster
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it's only 500w and it's an hp psu and the ones i've had experience with were super off brand and unreliable

desert gulch
fading oyster
#

BRUHHHHHHHH

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😩

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the case i was gonna buy went out of stockkkkkk

earnest olive
#

HP uses coolermaster psus in their omen prebuilts

fading oyster
#

what??????

earnest olive
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500w is fine for that configuration

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if it wasn't fine they wouldn't ship it

fading oyster
#

really

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i didn't know that

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usually they're super bad

earnest olive
#

i7-11700 has a maximum PL2 of 224W if you fully unlock power limit, and i'm not sure HP even lets you do that on their custom motherboard

desert gulch
earnest olive
#

they use OEM gpus so you'll be restricted to that 170W regardless of overclocking

fading oyster
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alright

earnest olive
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that's 394W cpu+gpu power

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the rest of the system will not overload the psu

fading oyster
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damn

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ok cool

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thank u

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oo

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i found the case

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that's cool then

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i can spend more on the aio since im not getting a psu

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swag😎

earnest olive
#

the biggest benefit to buying a prebuilt is that it just works

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naturally that means they cannot give you an insufficient power supply for the base config

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or else it would not "just work"

desert gulch
earnest olive
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i mean

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regardless of your (or my) enthusiast opinion on how well it works

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it works

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they bundle a 460 watt psu with a gtx 1650

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that's plenty

desert gulch
#

iBuyPower Slate:exists

earnest olive
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okay well ibuypower is an entirely different situation

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ibuypower.. we just don't talk about those

desert gulch
#

lol yeah

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ibuypower wont work out of the box

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gotta become pc fixer and fix all the issues before you can use it

fading oyster
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ahhhh

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im so excited

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finallly my dream build is gonna be finished in a couple days

sharp tundra
#

@desert gulch thanks man.

earnest olive
desert gulch
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lol yes

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they sell you a pc with a gpu that has no gpu in it

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just a dummy gpu lol

earnest olive
#

someone in this server bought one of those

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gt 710 gaming pc

desert gulch
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fans on a pcb

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howww

earnest olive
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I convinced him to return it before opening

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luckily

desert gulch
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nice

earnest olive
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and showed him a nice prebuilt with 16 times the performance for $300 more

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lol

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$600 to $900

desert gulch
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lol

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at 710 point get uhd630 lol

vague oracle
# earnest olive gt 710 gaming pc

A friend of mine turned down a build with an i7 6700k/RX480 I was selling him for $600 only to buy one of those GT710 builds for 1000

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Now he’s still complaining why he can’t play any games

earnest olive
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lmao

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i remember that

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he dug himself into that hole

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you gave him a nice price

desert gulch
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lol

vague oracle
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Lol yeah

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Guess he wanted something more modern lmao

sharp tundra
#

@earnest olive so is that rog strix g15 no good?

earnest olive
#

seems like it's decent when it works but it has a ridiculously high failure rate

vague oracle
#

What breaks in it?

sharp tundra
#

Gpu it seems

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Poor thermal application?

desert gulch
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must be

vague oracle
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I wouldn’t buy it then

sharp tundra
#

@earnest olive well do you have any other good suggestions for a good gaming laptop? $1700 is budget

earnest olive
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nope the $1700 laptop i bought recently is out of stock now

sharp tundra
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Damn

foggy gazelle
#

I opted for the Western Digital Black P10 4TB to put my Steam games on, but the instructions per Steam didn't go as planned, so I am going to have to reinstall the games.

sharp tundra
#

If it was me buying it, I'd probably just redo the thermal application since rog obviously doesn't know how to, but the person who I'm searching for doesn't know jack about computers and I don't live close enough to help him with it.

icy snow
desert gulch
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10400/11400 better perf for not much more, and that ssd is just a sata m.2

icy snow
#

Iam on a budget and idk any good ones the budget is 600$

foggy gazelle
#

I'm slowly rebuilding my PC. Now that I have a bigger drive for my Steam games, I can work on getting a better case

desert gulch
#

ez

icy snow
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Alr thanks

desert gulch
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yea np

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what gpu would you go with some day?

icy snow
#

Tbh idk maybe 1660 if i can find one or one from the 3000 series

desert gulch
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nice

icy snow
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I have a question i asked someone about the same build they said to make the ram slower something like that

foggy gazelle
# desert gulch what gpu would you go with some day?

My goal is to get my system VR ready. I am a heavy AMD user because AMD works better on Linux, but at the same time, finding decent AMD hardware at a reasonable price these days is like asking the impossible

desert gulch
#

yeah amd hardware and reasonable price is near impossible

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5800x and 5900x are as close as youll get to a good price lol

foggy gazelle
desert gulch
#

ye nice

foggy gazelle
#

Speaking of, any good recommendations for desks?

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Or is it personal preference?

desert gulch
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idk

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if going cheap ikea linnmon is there

vague oracle
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IKEA Linnmon on Alex Drawers

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Or one of those nice IKEA wood countertops

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The Linnmon is cheap, countertop is better quality but more expensive

foggy gazelle
vague oracle
#

Don’t get “gaming” desks

torn dawn
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stupid cheap for the size

jagged ember
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damn that desk huge though

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when you ever gonna use all of it

torn dawn
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2 monitors on one side, pc on right, ps4 hidden in corner and extra space for whatever else collects

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coming from a 36inch desk with drawers that didnt even let my chair fit under it, and had the monitor hanging half off the side, it feels very liberating

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And it looks like you can get it as a regular straight desk in 40, 48, or 55 inches, each of which are also cheap

foggy gazelle
#

I need to figure out how much room I have before I know how big of a desk I can get, but I am pretty sure I can get a 52" desk, maybe slightly bigger.

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It will be computer on one side, monitor in the middle, headset on stand on the left, and my smart speaker and alarm clock on the left as well

foggy gazelle
#

If I can do a three-monitor setup, would it matter if the monitors are different makes/models as long as they are the same size and resolution?

open oxide
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Hi guys

fallen stirrup
#

@open oxide what's up bro 👋🏽

open oxide
#

Nothing bro I’m Passing from unit tests

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And hbu

fallen stirrup
#

Nothing much just have a usual late night session

vague oracle
#

Or was it 30”

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Ehh not sure

foggy gazelle
vague oracle
#

Wouldn’t that just stretch the games out like crazy

jagged ember
#

It would look pretty stretched

foggy gazelle
#

Depends on how you do it. I've seen people who have the monitors configured so that the actual field of view spans across the three screens instead of being stretched. The center one is the primary and the image spans across to the other two instead of being stretched. Like this:
https://youtu.be/te5NPbrD_nI

YouTube
NCIX Tech Tips
Triple Monitor Setup Guide

Gaming on one monitor is fine, but gaming on 3 monitors is triple-fine. If you're going for maximum fine-ness, take gander at this here video. Keys was tired when he wrote this. You can tell because he's writing in third-person. ... Triple monitors! Alright.

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scenic turret
#

ez get a 49" UW

restive violet
#

My gpu is about 13inches long. A 10inch long gpu anti sag bracket should be fine right?

fossil cedar
restive violet
fossil cedar
meager badge
#

How do you say thank you to all the people that help you with advice on these channels? Forgot all the names 😛 @ everyone? 😄

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I am done with the PC, bar the GPU which is a matter of time only, and I'd like them to know that I appreciated the patience. Pato included 😄

fossil cedar
plucky kiln
obsidian wigeon
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nah

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If you're only gaming, it's not good

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

11400/11400F better value, and the kraken aio is meh

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EK should have an rgb aio

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Cheaper and better

plucky kiln
#

going for aesthetics over performance xd

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sadly couldn’t get a white gpu

plucky kiln
obsidian wigeon
#

Good looking cases can be had if you actually switch things for better value ones

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Maybe try looking at the corsair 4000D?

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

^

fossil cedar
#

I would also change other things @plucky kiln can you return the ssd too?

violet elm
fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

Looking for cheap HDD

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Hard Drive

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

I need good Hard Drive

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
violet elm
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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Or leave out of list

violet elm
#

Sure, sorry one sec

fossil cedar
#

Np

violet elm
#

Weird it's giving me an error saying I can't mark it as purchased lol

fossil cedar
#

Weird

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Just put it in as custom price or take off list will do

zenith summit
fossil cedar
violet elm
#

Oh also for 3600mhz i dont see that brand on the cvl, there's some g.skills thats same speed and timings

fossil cedar
zenith summit
fossil cedar
desert gulch
#

@stoic island does this make you mad

Screenshot_20210715-100811.jpg
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This dude keeps trying to say MHz and Mt/s are interchangeable lmao

sharp tundra
#

Hey guys, what's better, the 10750h or the 5800h?

rich helm
sharp tundra
#

@rich helm alright, I ask because both of these laptops are nearly identical in specs, I'm just trying to figure out which is better.

obsidian wigeon
#

helios 300 is meeeeh

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legion 7 for sure

sharp tundra
#

You think?

obsidian wigeon
#

but tho you do get more perf with the acer, but you sacrifice quality

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but cpu perf is lacking on acer too

sharp tundra
#

I'm searching for a friend, trying to make sure he's getting the best p2p

obsidian wigeon
#

in my eyes, the lenovo is better choice

sharp tundra
#

Alright, is there something better than the Lenovo that you know of for $1700?

obsidian wigeon
#

there's one

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it has rx 6800m

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lemme look

sharp tundra
#

Is it the g15 advantage cause we already decided that that was a piece of crap

obsidian wigeon
#

it wasn't?

fossil cedar
obsidian wigeon
#

it kills both other laptops in perf

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g15 advantage is the best value

desert gulch
obsidian wigeon
#

it even has decent build quality and batt life

desert gulch
#

I get ppl use MHz and stuff for ram

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But it's not even close to the sake thing

fossil cedar
sharp tundra
#

But the g15 has a really terrible thermal solution for the gpu, gives it like a 20% failure rate

obsidian wigeon
#

wuh no

desert gulch
#

MHz is a cycle that repeates on a certain interval

obsidian wigeon
#

That's not really true

desert gulch
#

Mt/s is the theoretical max of megatransfers possible in a second

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Doesn't have to be on a consistent interval

fossil cedar
#

Fair

obsidian wigeon
#

And defects can happen, just don't sweat about it too much

fossil cedar
#

It's usually a sec tho

obsidian wigeon
#

g15 advantage all the way please

sharp tundra
desert gulch
#

Yeah is the same time frame, it's just a lil different in that time frame

sharp tundra
#

Look at the one star reviews

desert gulch
#

He's using like reddit forums and then coming back after 10 minutes to counterargue me lol

obsidian wigeon
#

Then again

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Defects can happen with anything

sharp tundra
#

Yeah

obsidian wigeon
#

The people are just being well, nitpicky

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And with laptop that good value there's small compromises

sharp tundra
#

Well, I wouldn't saying having your gpu fried for poor thermal application is nitpicky

obsidian wigeon
#

GPU can't be fried

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It'll just shut itself off before it does

desert gulch
obsidian wigeon
#

idk what are those reviews on about

desert gulch
#

The reviews are a little scary

sharp tundra
#

A lot of those reviews were saying the gou died on them

echo vale
#

i mean

desert gulch
#

If asus' idea of thermal pasting a gpu is taking quite literally "a thermal paste crap" right on it, that's not something to be proud of

obsidian wigeon
#

^

sharp tundra
#

And they open it up and see a botched liquid metal job

echo vale
#

reviews i take with a grain of salt

desert gulch
#

Meh

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If they don't even take pride in thermal paste or liquid metal, who knows what else is wrong with it

echo vale
#

some ppl quite literally dont know how to plug in a cable

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so i wouldnt be surprised if they said they fried their gpu

obsidian wigeon
#

Oh, risks happens

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Asus takes pride in their liquid metal application

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So it's definitely defect

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And rma exists ya know

sharp tundra
#

@echo vale well, I usually don't bother with the reviews either cause they're usually just stupid people doing something wrong, but there was too many of people saying their gpu died after using it for a short amount of time

desert gulch
#

Yeah

echo vale
#

of

desert gulch
#

And the guy who took his apart gave a lot of insight

echo vale
#

ofc

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it depends on the product

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like u can tell a good product with bad reviews

obsidian wigeon
#

But the reviews sure looks.. concerning

echo vale
#

vs a bad product with bad reviews

obsidian wigeon
#

LM is a risky bet

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But asus took the risk

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Whelp, I'm kinda scared now

sharp tundra
#

@obsidian wigeon so you think I should just tell my buddy to get that lenovo?

obsidian wigeon
#

It's hard to decide

echo vale
#

idk how this works but my friend ordered a custom backplate for their 3090 and it somehow keeps it cooler by like 5*c than the original backplating

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idk how tht works at all

obsidian wigeon
#

Risk for nice perf, or settle with less but less risk

rich helm
obsidian wigeon
#

I'll help looking for something else

sharp tundra
#

I mean, he's really not knowledgeable with pcs, so I don't wanna get him something that's gonna be reliably and good

rich helm
#

The tuf dash while not amazing is only 1500

sharp tundra
#

@obsidian wigeon alright, thanks, cause I honestly don't know crap about laptops, desktops more my area

obsidian wigeon
#

Oh yeah tuf dash f15 is a good choice

rich helm
#

@earnest olive what laptop did you get that has the god tier laptop 3070

obsidian wigeon
#

gigabyte something

sharp tundra
#

@rich helm he said that one is oos

obsidian wigeon
#

but I forgot, oof

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but ye oos

rich helm
obsidian wigeon
#

o

rich helm
#

It performs about as well as my desktop 3060ti and mines even better than desktop 3060ti or 3070

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Tuf dash has a max q as well sadly

obsidian wigeon
#

lenovo does have better cpu

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so i think i settle with lenovo

rich helm
#

Nah that 3060 is so bad

obsidian wigeon
#

oof

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hope that dash is still in stock then

rich helm
#

I’d take slightly worse cpu and better gpu over bad gpu and better cpu

obsidian wigeon
#

also for that g15, wow

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i didn't even see tape protecting the gpu at all

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scary stuff

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asus cheapin out on electrical tapes lmao

sharp tundra
#

Tuf dash?

rich helm
#

What was that Lenovo Linus reviewed a month or two ago

obsidian wigeon
#

yes, asus tuf dash f15

sharp tundra
#

You think I should have him get that over the lenovo?

obsidian wigeon
#

i think so

sharp tundra
#

I assume the 3070 variant

obsidian wigeon
#

yes

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least it uses actual normal paste

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not lm NYEHE

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no way it's gonna fry

rich helm
#

130w 3070 so almost max p and 5900hx

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i believe sips laptop is 130w

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100 over budget tho

sharp tundra
#

Is is this not the one that has gpu problems?

obsidian wigeon
#

yep

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definitely not

sharp tundra
#

Alright

obsidian wigeon
#

wait, it's just nvidia variant

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hmph

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sorry for the confusion

sharp tundra
#

Oh alright

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OK so my buddy said that asus g15 was too much use was too much over budget so would you recommend the lenovo or the tuf dash

little osprey
#

Whats your budget?

sharp tundra
#

$1700

little osprey
#

i'd say the tuf

sharp tundra
#

I was thinking same

earnest olive
#

only laptop I've seen in this price bracket that can allocate 130W to the 3070

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which is what allows it to match desktop 3060ti

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the tuf dash only has a quad core cpu so it won't age very well

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and GPU gets 100W I believe

last fractal
#

whats a good 1500 dolloar pc you can build and buy at micro center

echo vale
#

uh most of the parts micro centre sells is overpriced imo

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you can some parts for cheaper on newegg and amazon

last fractal
#

idk how to build a pc

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
pine kayak
#

yeah only a 3060 for 1600 is very expensive

last fractal
#

anygood prebuilts at micro center

fossil cedar
last fractal
#

maybe idk

fossil cedar
#

A cheaper one ^

last fractal
#

thanks imma go through micro center pc builder

fossil cedar
#

Okay but as i said they are overpriced

last fractal
#

i know that i just wanna good pc built

fossil cedar
last fractal
#

ok all i realy want is 32 gb rysen 7 5800 and a 3080

fossil cedar
last fractal
#

yea idm

fossil cedar
last fractal
#

2200

fossil cedar
last fractal
#

is it good

fossil cedar
#

Yes

last fractal
#

can i add extra ram to it

fossil cedar
#

Yep

last fractal
#

thanks man!

fossil cedar
#

Np

last fractal
#

Thermaltake UX100 ARGB Universal CPU Cooler

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is that good

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prob not

junior tangle
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
junior tangle
#

dayum

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nice

fossil cedar
#

Np

junior tangle
#

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085PXXQWC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=techlens0e-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B084GLGJN5&linkId=54ebcfd4b5a0c5553f6d29b9510cc3b1&th=1

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i want thi

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this

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should i get it

little osprey
#

Get the id-cooling se 224 xt

fossil cedar
#

Get that cooler

junior tangle
#

ok

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it loooks aweeesommeemeee

fossil cedar
#

:)

junior tangle
#

what are liquid cpu coolers?

fossil cedar
junior tangle
#

i dont like how the case looks

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im gonna stick with the Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case

fossil cedar
#

Fair

fossil cedar
static ravine
junior tangle
#

does it go inside the cpu

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or like around it

fossil cedar
#

It goes on top of it like a normal cooler hold on I'll get ya a pic

static ravine
#

mounts like normal cpu cooler

fossil cedar
#

@junior tangle

Snapchat-1386702861.jpg
little osprey
#

Theres a part that attaches to the top of the CPU

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the cooling part

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then the fans cool the liquid

junior tangle
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oh ok

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thanks

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i get it now

narrow flicker
#

I have a Tracer III 15R Slim VR 800 from cyberpower PC, I want to upgrade the Ram and M.2 SSD.
Before I buy the parts I want to know if the SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2 2280 1TB, and if the SAMSUNG 32GB DDR4 3200MHz are compatible with my laptop.

maiden pawn
#

I think tonight is build night. So, checklist: transfer over important files to secondary drive, create windows boot media on thumb stick, then build and do fresh install on desired drive? What’s the best way to reformat my old OS drive to just be a normal storage drive again?

little osprey
little osprey
#

My os drive only has like 1gb of recovery and efi partitions

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rest is ntfs

maiden pawn
#

I don’t know anything about partitions other than what they are. I don’t know how best to utilize them etc

little osprey
#

Ah

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You should be fine, you dont have to mess with the drive

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Just format it with file explorer

narrow flicker
little osprey
#

it says on the website that its 2666

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@narrow flicker You can only use ram with a speed of 2666 for your laptop

jade scarab
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Gonna get GTX 970 5600x

little osprey
jade scarab
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Just for now tho

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Later in when everything is normal gonna get a 30 series hopefully

narrow flicker