building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

Cuz they had wifi mobo before

[desert gulch]

ax200 and b550 torpedo= cheaper

[sweet dirge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aladdix/saved/g3hXkL made the changes

[desert gulch]

private list

[sweet dirge]

cpu and ssd

[desert gulch]

unprivate the list

[sweet dirge]

I will

[fossil cedar]

Yeah bur ehhh they have premium and so it's a nice built in feature

[desert gulch]

ig

could save 30 bucks but yea

[fossil cedar]

@sweet dirge just get this, better cpu, better mobo, added ssd, better hdd, better power supply,

[fossil cedar]

But 5900x and 3080 that stage you kinda don't mind paying that premium for cleanness

[desert gulch]

sure yea

[sweet dirge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aladdix/saved/g3hXkL

[sweet dirge]

ohh..I will do it after

[desert gulch]

Private list again

[sweet dirge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aladdix/saved/g3hXkL

it gotta be public now

[desert gulch]

still private

[sweet dirge]

tf

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Aladdix/saved/#view=wGr899

[desert gulch]

its working now

[sweet dirge]

wait..forgot something

[fossil cedar]

Just use the list i gave lol, you don't gotta put it in yourself, just hit edit then save it as your own lol

[desert gulch]

dont get that ssd, its bad value

[fossil cedar]

^

[sweet dirge]

ohh..thank you so much

[fossil cedar]

@sweet dirge get p31 1tb then a pilot e 2tb as secondary storage for that price

[sweet dirge]

wow..understood..imma use your list

thanks

[fossil cedar]

You mean my list?

[sweet dirge]

yes

this

[fallow patrol]

alright, i think i have my list, im not totally sure on the GPU since im paying actual price, so i just picked a 3070.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Im also not sure if i should get a new CPU fan or if the included one is good enough

[obsidian wigeon]

eh cooler

the included one is good enough for now

or you can go vetroo v5

[fallow patrol]

was going to ask if you had a recommendation.

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm, i get ya

[fallow patrol]

and does the case have enough included fans, or would i need to buy them seperately

[fossil cedar]

👍

[tender pasture]

is the pc builder reliable?

on newegg

[fossil cedar]

You sent the wrong link, need to send the link kn the yellow box

[fossil cedar]

Just use https://pcpartpicker.com/list

[tender pasture]

ok.

[fallow patrol]

Ah, i see
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GJGJLP

[fossil cedar]

That cooler isn't enough for a ryzen 5000 cpu :/, what's your budget and I'll make a few changes

[vague oracle]

Personally I’d use the Meshify 2 Compact instead of the Meshify C

[fallow patrol]

Minus the GPU and the Monitor around $1600. and since im going to be paying Actual price, just base the price on MSRP

[vague oracle]

So $1600 for everything minus GPU and monitor?

[fallow patrol]

Sorry, im looking to spend around $1600

just ignore my other message

im imagineing around $500 for the GPU, and probably a cheaper moniter in the end

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok

[fallow patrol]

since GPU's are so difficult to find i didn't include it in the List

[tough shell]

I could be wrong, but I imagine that getting a gpu in general, let alone for <$500 is going to be near impossible

[fallow patrol]

im going to be ordering directly from the dealer, since im ordering through work

[tough shell]

nice

[vague oracle]

I’d do something like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gb6Q4d

Anything you’d change? @fossil cedar

Pato is the god of pcpartpicker

[fallow patrol]

oh, my bad, i was saying i wanted to spend $1600 at the end of everything

[tough shell]

once I can save the money and find one that's available, imma be upgrading from a gtx 980 to rtx 3080, as my current gpu is on its deathbed

[frank stirrup]

yes

[fallow patrol]

thats why my original list was around $1100 so that the GPU would add to that

[vague oracle]

Oh I didn’t noticed the GPU didn’t have a price in it

My bad

[frank stirrup]

Change the case to a 4000d airflow and put in a 360mm aio

[fallow patrol]

ya, i just put that one since i would like something comparable to the 3070

[vague oracle]

What about a mobo for an 11400F I’m not too sure about them

[fallow patrol]

and i was told MSRP for 3070 was around $500

[frank stirrup]

asus primr is very nais

great price too

[vague oracle]

Also RGB aio or not? @fallow patrol

[fallow patrol]

im trying to have a Red/black scheme so ya

[vague oracle]

Ok

[tough shell]

anyone know what msrp for 3080 is?

[frank stirrup]

dont know if u noticed this but

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sg3gXL/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-rgb-488-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00097a

[vague oracle]

Lmao I know that exists, it’s the one I have in my build. Just I meant like RGB on the cooling block

[frank stirrup]

sn550

better rand

[vague oracle]

Forgot to put that in lol

[frank stirrup]

lower price too

looking good otherwise

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k6gnfP

It fits the $1600 without the monitor

[frank stirrup]

wd blue 2tb hdd and a 500gb sn550 if you wanna cut costs

also a 280mm aio

360 overkill for that cpu

and a p360 case

[vague oracle]

That’s what I was thinking, wasn’t sure if wd blue HDDs we’re good or not

[frank stirrup]

should fit the monitor with those

also manually set the price on the 11400 to 180$

and get the normal not the F

[fossil cedar]

I would get 360 rad if possible and a p500a or corsair 4000d or p360a, meshify 2 is meh imo

[frank stirrup]

Bruh im finally operating on ur wavelength

lessgo?!

[vague oracle]

Lmaooo

[fossil cedar]

Change the price to 189 plssss that's so scalped

Pof

[frank stirrup]

I DID THAT

[vague oracle]

On the CPU?

[frank stirrup]

PATO ARE U PROUD OF ME?

[frank stirrup]

yee

11400 goes for 180

get the non f

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4tyWp2

1630 total

Ain’t bad

If you want to drop to exactly 1600 you could get the non RGB version of the ram

[fallow patrol]

no, it'll be fine, only thing that bugs me is the Bright blue SSD, but i can get over that

[frank stirrup]

drop the aio to a 280

should shave 20$

[vague oracle]

Thing is I can’t find it in stock anywhere

And the only place I’m finding it its being scalped for $200 on Newegg

[fallow patrol]

im not that worried about the $20, especially since ill be ordering directly from dealers

[frank stirrup]

the ssd goes underneath that

u wont even see it

[fallow patrol]

oh right, forgot about that

thank you

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[frank stirrup]

freezer ii

[frank stirrup]

pog!

[vague oracle]

No RGB 280mm Freezer II

[frank stirrup]

hmmm

1 sec

[fossil cedar]

Alec right

Is sad

[vague oracle]

Woah I’m right for once

[frank stirrup]

Even the p12 argb are out of stock

I was gonna get those and the 280mm aio

p360a

not gonna happen tho

[vague oracle]

120mm fans on a 280mm aio?

[frank stirrup]

right yet again

my bad

im a dumdum

by brainwaves are out of sync with patos again

[vague oracle]

I want RGB P14s lol

Just to put them on the top of my lancool II

[frank stirrup]

Coolermaster prismatics is where its at

[vague oracle]

Coolermaster fans are good?

[frank stirrup]

I got a phenomenal deal on em

[vague oracle]

Ehh not a fan of the fake gem ring

[fossil cedar]

[frank stirrup]

but yeah they arent bad

[frank stirrup]

I ordered Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 ARGB

I recieved Cooler Master MasterFan MF120 Prismatic

lol

cant complain

[vague oracle]

Nice lmao

[untold vessel]

What do you guys think of my build? I'm only going to be playing Minecraft with integrated graphics until I can get a GPU when the market prices go down. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ChrisCeraso/saved/#view=zYMHGX

[fossil cedar]

Very nice, i would swap the ssd for an sn550 tho

Or pilot e

For hdd i would go wd blue 2tb 64mb cache

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bskwrH/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd20ezrz

[frank stirrup]

cooler good for an 11600K?

[fossil cedar]

Scythe fuma is a beast

[frank stirrup]

Yee but can it handle an OCed 11600k?

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup scythe fuma is very close to the nh d15

Yes

[frank stirrup]

Ahhh I see

D15 can definately handle it

[fossil cedar]

@frank stirrup

[frank stirrup]

JEEZUS

[fossil cedar]

Not as good as d15 but by d15 price you should be buying a liq freezer

Absolute beast

[frank stirrup]

I see

its insanely good

[desert gulch]

@fossil cedar 10600k or 5600x?

Assuming same price

[frank stirrup]

5600x

[desert gulch]

Wrong

User benchmark

🤓

[frank stirrup]

Get that garbage outta my face lol

No but real talk

5600x>11600k unless you need the igpu

[desert gulch]

10600k

[frank stirrup]

b550 boards are cheaper than z590

[desert gulch]

Not 11600k

[frank stirrup]

My bad

I dont know how to number apparantly

[fossil cedar]

5600x

[fossil cedar]

Kek

[rich helm]

5600x vs 11400

[stoic island]

5600x small edge on average, but quite a bit more pricey

[desert gulch]

yeah

but this man has userbenchmark to tell him 10600k scored 2 points better lol

[rich helm]

Entire other server I was in making fun of me telling me all intel cpus are trash

[stoic island]

haha

[rich helm]

Basically their argument was “intel has big power draw”
“Intel cpus are ovens bro”
“Amd is just better”

[stoic island]

lol

zen 3 is an oven

[rich helm]

Also “it’s 14nm therefore it’s worse in all ways”

[stoic island]

even for transistor density, Intel 10nm is actually better than TSMC 7nm atm

[elfin swallow]

yo! quick question. Im rocking a ventus 2x 3070 with a ryzen 5 3600 and 16gb of ddr4 ram. Im kind of disappointed with performance and instability with some titles and think that my processor might be bottlenecking me. I game at 1080p but am soon to upgrade to 1440p. Do you think upgrading to a ryzen 5800x would be worth the upgrade?

[stoic island]

It may be, if you believe that is the issue

Could also look at ram usage

[earnest olive]

check gpu temps

i had a 2070 super ventus that thermal throttled HARD at stock

[stoic island]

oh wait

I read that as dual 3070s

[earnest olive]

the dual fan cooler is trash

[elfin swallow]

do you have a recommended software for that @earnest olive

[stoic island]

ventus 2x might be wacky

[earnest olive]

hwinfo

[elfin swallow]

ok

[stoic island]

hwinfo64 very useful

[elfin swallow]

its not that the performance is thaaat bad, just not what i thought it would be you know

[earnest olive]

3600 can definitely be the bottleneck at 1080p

whats your ram speed

[stoic island]

also, single stick of 16gb or 2x8gb

[elfin swallow]

its dual 8gb

[vague oracle]

Is it in A2 and B2?

[elfin swallow]

like especially for games like valorant, i didnt think id see my frame counter dip to 130 fps

theyre in the proper dimm slots

[vague oracle]

Might be the GPU thermal throttling, check temps

[elfin swallow]

will do

im going to keep an eye on temps

[stoic island]

@elfin swallow What specific ram do you have

[elfin swallow]

corsair vengence 16gb ddr4 3200mhz

2x 8gb

[stoic island]

meh

xmp on?

[elfin swallow]

yessir

gpu temps are average 64c

[vague oracle]

Under load?

[stoic island]

in game?

[elfin swallow]

still trying to figure out how to use hwinfo

im running rust rn, gpu at about 50% load

[stoic island]

50% sounds a bit low

any oc or uv?

[elfin swallow]

havent changed it from stock settings

[vague oracle]

The gpu shouldn’t be running at 50%

Drivers up to date?

[elfin swallow]

yessir

thinking of both upgrading ram and cpu

[still roost]

Toasty#0960 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fossil cedar]

Msi afterburner, i would change the fan curve, usually stock fans are meh

[elfin swallow]

sounds good

youre talking bout the gpu fans not the entire system?

[vague oracle]

Just fans

[fossil cedar]

What motherboard and exact ram do you have btw?

[vague oracle]

Don’t touch any clocks

[fossil cedar]

Gpu fans yes

[stoic island]

better ram might help

3200mhz isn't too great for zen 2 or zen 3

[fossil cedar]

3200 is fine for zen 2, won't see nearly as big a diff on zen 2 as zen 3

[stoic island]

zen 2 difference was still 10%+ in some places

[elfin swallow]

Motherboard Model: GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X

16 gb ddr4 corsair vengence 3200mhz

2x 8gb

[stoic island]

and corsair ram is sad anyways

[vague oracle]

^

[fossil cedar]

I saw a bit of diff at 3600cl18 oc but not that much

[fossil cedar]

I would wack a 5800x on there

[stoic island]

I would upgrade ram first tbh

[vague oracle]

Ram probably would be a better idea

Especially since he’s having stability issues

[stoic island]

and I'm talking getting 3600c16 xmp sticks and OCing them even further

like bleach doing, what, 3800c14

[elfin swallow]

when i say stability i mean frame loss spikes

[vague oracle]

Yeah he’s doing 3800cl14

3800cl14 is nice

Kinda want to try 3800Cl12 when I get home

If I bring the timings low enough could I damage the ram?

Or frequency too high?

[stoic island]

no?

if you set the voltage too high for the die yea

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok yeah that’s what I thought

[stoic island]

but just the frequency or timings no, unless it's getting too hot somehow

[vague oracle]

Someone couple days ago was telling me to not bring the frequency too high or you’ll kill the ram

I thought he was crazy

[desert gulch]

Is ballistix 3600 c16 2x8 b die?

[vague oracle]

Rev E

[stoic island]

no

micron rev e

[desert gulch]

Better or worse than b die?

[stoic island]

different

forky got rev e sticks to beat y cruncher scores achieved with b die iirc

but they're just different

works differently

[desert gulch]

What'd sippy use to do 3800c14 off of 3600c16 sticks?

Like what die were they

[vague oracle]

Just out of curiosity is 3800c14 something not very common? Because I see bleach achieving it brought up quite often

[stoic island]

rev e

[stoic island]

3600c16 sticks doing that is very nice

that's why rev e is nice

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok yeah because my rev E also got to there

I’m going to get pictures once I get home

[desert gulch]

Nice

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah for a zen 3 but i don't think zen 2 fclk can get to 1900mhz reliably

[vague oracle]

My 3700x is able to go up to 1900 reliably

Not sure about 2000

I’ve been messing around with OCing my 3700x pushing it to as many limits as it can go

Depressive episodes really do be like that

[stoic island]

fairly reliably

I'd say 70-30

[vague oracle]

2000mHz on the other hand

Not many zen 2

[untold vessel]

**What do you guys think of my build? I'm only going to be playing Minecraft with integrated graphics until I can get a GPU when the market prices go down. Once I get a GPU, I am going to be playing Minecraft at 4k60fps alongside playing some Triple A Titles as well.

I'm looking to overclock my computer as well, but save as much money as physically possible, with overclocking taking priority over saving money.

I also need a motherboard with as many USB ports as possible. Could you guys add a better motherboard with a better case?**

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWZQ4d

[vague oracle]

First of all, for a good gaming experience ideally you want 1440p@144hz

Not 4K@60hz

Also budget?

[stoic island]

well

[vague oracle]

Also an air cooler for overclocking????

[stoic island]

yea...

also, might as well go 11600k tbh

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w4qdkX

So far I came up with this

Personally I’d go for a Lancool II mesh for slightly better airflow

But the 4000d airflow isn’t bad either

[stoic island]

I would go lancool ii mesh or td500 mesh

but yea

[vague oracle]

Lancool II mesh it is lmao

Would it be worth it jump to an 11700K?

Nvm that’s an extra $130

[stoic island]

yea

[vague oracle]

I’m actually starting to think I’m getting better at this type of stuff

[stoic island]

ye

experience is good

[vague oracle]

It’s funny, I came into this discord couple months ago asking for advice, now I’m one of the people giving it lmao

[hallow glen]

Yeah that's me sometimes as well

[untold vessel]

hey guys

My budget is $1500 WITHOUT a gpu. I'll be getting a 3070 once the market price goes down @vague oracle @stoic island

[stoic island]

okai

@untold vessel for gaming?

[pine kayak]

planing to get a 3070 at msrp ?

[fossil cedar]

Really? I thought that only zen 3 could do that reliably

[stoic island]

only zen 3 has like 50-50 for 2000mhz if

[vague oracle]

Woah first time I got @ for something lol

[stoic island]

zen 2 getting 2000mhz is like godtier bin

but 1900mhz is fairly common

[fossil cedar]

I'd go 11600k, scythe fuma 2

[stoic island]

oh right

I'll just make a list

[fossil cedar]

Really ahh

[stoic island]

@untold vessel Need wifi or no

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3yFVc

[pine kayak]

why 850w power supply ?

[vague oracle]

Room for the GPU

[stoic island]

@untold vessel could go AMD if you want, but Intel is usually more fun for OCing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wRvRdD

[stoic island]

revo d.f. is just too good a deal :P

[vague oracle]

Depending on what GPU you’re going for

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't go meshify 2, it's small and better options like p500a for that price, also if you go Ryzen no igpu

[vague oracle]

Look at the new link

[stoic island]

also

1500$ without a GPU is a lot

so I slapped a monitor in the list too for fun

[fossil cedar]

Leaves room for future gpu

[pine kayak]

true

[vague oracle]

Yeah Pato check out the newer link I sent

[fossil cedar]

Kk

[vague oracle]

Forgot to put the 360mm rad in

[pine kayak]

only 1tb of storage is not enough

[fossil cedar]

I still would have gone intel cuz they said they gotta wait for market because of the igpu on intel

[fossil cedar]

It is lol

Plenty

[pine kayak]

no

[vague oracle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MXkDLP

[fossil cedar]

And you can add more

[pine kayak]

game take so much storage

[vague oracle]

He could always go for like a cheap used Gt710

And down the line have better cpu performance

[fossil cedar]

@pine kayak 1tb is plenty for majority or ppl, i used a 240gb ssd for 2 years and only recently upgraded to 1tb

[fossil cedar]

Fair enough yeah

[pine kayak]

oof

[fossil cedar]

I can attest, 1tb is plenty

[vague oracle]

^

Don’t do what I do and have like 9Tb of storage in my gaming rig

[pine kayak]

recently upgraded to 3tb because 1tb wasnt enough new game always take so much storage

[stoic island]

in a single drive it's enough imo

easy as heck to add new drives

[fossil cedar]

Then they can add storage lol

[stoic island]

and people are different

1tb is definitely enough to start off

[pine kayak]

true

[stoic island]

I prefer to just have a single drive now and they gauge how much storage they need

technology is also always advancing

[pine kayak]

i mean hard drive are so cheap now

[vague oracle]

Just realized I accidentally put in a gpu into this list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kMV47X

[pine kayak]

his budget was 1500 with gpu

[stoic island]

They could get faster and cheaper, heck, drive makers are doing more in advancing density in hard drives

[fossil cedar]

I would swap the mobo

[vague oracle]

I thought you said without gpu

[fossil cedar]

Without*

[pine kayak]

my bad

[pine kayak]

missread

[vague oracle]

Lmao all good

[pine kayak]

you can put the 11900k

[vague oracle]

Lmao nope

The 5900x outperforms it

[pine kayak]

just kidding

he is planing 3070 5900x is so overkill

[stoic island]

I went 11600k for OCing reasons

intel oc can be fun

especially with rkl imc

and then reve

[vague oracle]

Also $1500 is actually pretty difficult to hit without a gpu XD

[pine kayak]

true

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BcxfW3 I'd do that

[pine kayak]

put o11 dynamic it's pretty

[fossil cedar]

Ewww

[vague oracle]

Pato is god, Do what he says lmaooo

O11 dynamic has weird airflow

[fossil cedar]

That's a very controversial opinion lol

[stoic island]

o11 is

bah

[fossil cedar]

https://c.tenor.com/35hmBwYHYikAAAAM/the-office-bow.gif

[stoic island]

overused, not good for the price, expensive, semi useless imo

I mean, 150$ for no stock fans

[fossil cedar]

O11d makes me cringe ngl

[pine kayak]

[vague oracle]

$150 for a whole lotta tempered glass

[pine kayak]

i have td500 mesh and i love it

[untold vessel]

wait sorry sorry i mean with gpu

What do you guys think of my build? I'm only going to be playing Minecraft with integrated graphics until I can get a GPU when the market prices go down.

Once I get a GPU, I am going to be playing Minecraft at 4k60fps alongside playing some Triple A Titles as well.

I'm looking to overclock my computer as well, but save as much money as physically possible, with overclocking taking priority over saving money.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9vjG8J

[pine kayak]

that what i though

[untold vessel]

sorry sorry

[native jacinth]

Can you air cool a 5900x and what cooler should I use

[pine kayak]

noctua

[untold vessel]

I'm in like 7 discords trying to ask for help

What do you think

[vague oracle]

Hold up hold up hold up

Too many people asking questions lmaooo

[pine kayak]

Noctua NH-U14S

[vague oracle]

No don’t air cool a 5900x

[vague oracle]

Forget that noctua, it ain’t that good for the price

[worn wave]

Dark Rock 4

[stoic island]

Do you have a separate budget for a monitor, or do you already own a monitor?

and well, u14s is only useful for the TR varient tbh

and well, I'd go aio since they want to OC

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q4phQD

[fossil cedar]

Ew why

[worn wave]

Dark Rock 4 is $70 right now on amazon

But an AIO would be a good idea for OCing

[fossil cedar]

Technically but it's gonna run way hotter and cost you just as much money for worse

[vague oracle]

For a 5900x I’d say an AIO is pretty much necessary

[pine kayak]

it has beautiful brown fans

[worn wave]

Arctic Freezer and EK Basic are both good cheap AIOs

[vague oracle]

Don’t forget the Galahad

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but the u14s is bleh, u12a or nhd15

[pine kayak]

true

[untold vessel]

all peripherals are taken care of

[pine kayak]

whats your monitor?

[wide sparrow]

Mm

[fossil cedar]

Thanks for the insight jp X)

[wide sparrow]

Always

[pine kayak]

best advice ever

[vague oracle]

MmMmMmM

[stoic island]

then assuming msrp 3070, this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qvR47X

also, you could look into peripherals a bit more if you're really going 4k60 for gaming...

1440p144 would be nicer for gaming

[fossil cedar]

Considering 10$ left step up to p500a or sn550/pilot e mb?

[stoic island]

@fossil cedar I specifically went down to save money

since yaknow, msrp is kinda wack and basically nonexistant

might as well save the 30$ here

[fossil cedar]

Fair

Forgot you were assuming gpu msrp

[ripe wedge]

so what you could do is take your current pc and upgrade it

[fallow tide]

@dusk horizon -All ears to have your idea on rebuilding this....

[ripe wedge]

say add an ssd and maybe a dedicated gpu

lol wrong Jake

[dusk horizon]

lmao

[ripe wedge]

probably needs a repaste while you are at it along with a ram upgrade I assume

im assuming you have a dell optiplex?

i5 3470 is my guess

[fallow tide]

It's a Dell Optiplex 7010 MT case (and unit if that matters refurbished original computer when I purchased it)...

[ripe wedge]

ah the wide one

right?

[fallow tide]

yes...mini-tower model...that's the one!

[ripe wedge]

okay so if I remember correctly you can fit a standard gpu in it

but gpus are hard to get at the moment

[fallow tide]

I have 16 GB Crucial Memory I had added to this...

[ripe wedge]

ah so you dont need a memory upgrade

[fallow tide]

Nvidida

[ripe wedge]

I think best thing to try is just get an ssd and clone your hard drive onto it

nvidia?

[fallow tide]

trying to spell that video gpu card manufacturer's name....

[ripe wedge]

yeah nvidia

[fallow tide]

I was going to get a Samsung EVO 1 TB SSD

[ripe wedge]

does it already have a gpu in it?

[fallow tide]

Nope....I don't believe so, not a technie...

techie rather...

[ripe wedge]

you can go to task manager and be able to show me

most likely you are running on integrated

[ripe wedge]

ah yep integrated

and oh I was wrong you have a 3570

close enough tho lmao but thats still a decent cpu

[fallow tide]

that's what I thought 3570...

[fallow tide]

from my remembering seeing it...

so you would recommend changing out the processor to the AMD Ryzen 3 4300G and upgrading to SSD and what about a gpu?

[ripe wedge]

you cant change it out to that lol

[fallow tide]

dead end there...

other options?

[ripe wedge]

youd have to buy a new mobo and also I was recommending that cpu because it has good enough integrated

im thinking

im gonna try something real quick. gonna make a pc part list

[fallow tide]

mobo's are pricey, aren't there and hard to change without knowing what you are doing? (speaking from an amateur non-techie perspective on that)...

[ripe wedge]

yep nvm wouldnt work. tried but went over budget lmao

and as for those cpus I recommended they are only OEM at the moment

but the 5600G will be non OEM this August

its fairly easy once you do some research about putting pcs together

[fallow tide]

you lost me on your cpu comment, not sure what it pertains to? (swap out with my existing Dell OptiPlex?)

[ripe wedge]

yeah because you were saying switch out your cpu

lol

id say instead of getting a new pc right now id just upgrade to an ssd

it would greatly improve your current pc

[fallow tide]

so if I took this unit to MicroCenter, or BestBuy could that piece something together for me for a decent performing computer for video and graphics (Adobe Elements and Corel Video Editor Apps) and general computer/internet use for $300 - $400?)

[ripe wedge]

I wouldnt

and they couldnt

[fallow tide]

what about working with graphics and video, any recommendations of gpu for this model?

[ripe wedge]

and putting in an ssd is super easy

well gpus are hard to get at the moment

[fallow tide]

I saw a lot of ebay, and being this is an older model, thought I could go with a used one and go a good deal?

[ripe wedge]

nah even older gpus are super expensive and over priced at the moment

[fallow tide]

all the SSD hardware connections come with the SSD?

[ripe wedge]

no you will need to buy a sata cable

here ill find a decent ssd

[desert gulch]

mx500 may be good priced rn

[ripe wedge]

not a great ssd

[desert gulch]

yea it is

[ripe wedge]

oh wait that one is fine

[desert gulch]

for 2.5inch its p good

ye

[ripe wedge]

was thinking of the bx500

[desert gulch]

its not the bx

ye

[fallow tide]

open box...

[ripe wedge]

not great priced rn

[desert gulch]

sad

[ripe wedge]

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-500gb-870-evo-series/p/N82E16820147792? cant go wrong with this

little overpriced

but eh

[fallow tide]

It is worth going with a Samsung EVO SSD? (or are there are other less expensive equal quality or near equal quality comparable SSD's for less you recommend?)

what about going with the 1 TB size?

[ripe wedge]

well since you arnt gaming on it I would say just offload all of your stuff onto the harddrive

and it would be worth going for it because below that isnt much that im seeing quality wise

[fallow tide]

got you on that note...

[ripe wedge]

https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-500GB-Internal-MZ-77E500B-AM/dp/B08QBMD6P4/ here it is on amazon

amazon is usually a bit quicker

shipping wise

[desert gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/SK-hynix-Gold-500GB-Internal/dp/B07SK5BNM1 s31 decent price aswell

[ripe wedge]

not bad

that would be a good choice too

[stoic island]

S31 is nice

870 evo is nice too

[untold vessel]

What do you guys think of my build? I'm only going to be playing Minecraft with integrated graphics until I can get a GPU when the market prices go down.

Once I get a GPU, I am going to be playing Minecraft at 4k60fps alongside playing some Triple A Titles as well.

***I'm looking to overclock my computer as well, but save as much money as physically possible. ***

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wqPfW3

[ripe wedge]

well first of all that cooler

I mean its okay tho

I wouldnt go with the 10600K

[desert gulch]

for the price of z590+10600k, you can just get a 5600x+b550

and get better performance

ik you want to overclock but 5600x can aswell, just not as far

[ripe wedge]

@fallow tide this ssd would be the cheaper equally great ssd option

[untold vessel]

what would you swap the coolor and cpu for?

[ripe wedge]

what @desert gulch said to

5600X+b550

or either 11400

[untold vessel]

What would you swap for?

[ripe wedge]

but prob 5600X because you can OC that a lil

[desert gulch]

5600x and b550

itll still overclock a bit

[untold vessel]

Could you edit my part list with a new one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wqPfW3

[desert gulch]

sure

[untold vessel]

tysm

@ripe wedge Could you do your version too?

[desert gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PNYX68

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Torpedo-Gaming-Motherboard-Processors/dp/B08Q1ZVXG4

then heres the mobo

since pcpartpicker wont link it

[ripe wedge]

@fallow tide so what you can do is upgrade that pcs ssd then if it still performs under your expectations you could sell it then maybe be able to afford a better pc (like the 5300G pc for maybe like $550)

[stoic island]

Again, I'd grab an aio for OCing, and I'd grab a 11600k for the better imc.

And well, I'd personally grab a different case that supports 360mm top mount like td500 mesh and put a freezer ii 360mm top mount

If not, neo air does support support 240mm rad top

[untold vessel]

Guys, I made this build with the idea of Overclocking in mind, but now I just want to save money and keep the same specs. Could somebody make an altered list of mine but change a few components to make it cheaper and more focused on just gameplay? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wqPfW3

[stoic island]

Sooo don't need overclocking?

That can save a lot of money

[untold vessel]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeep no oc

Could you?

[stoic island]

One moment

@untold vessel something a bit more like this, 11400 goes in and out of stock fairly quickly for some reason, but it'll probably be back in stock in a few days.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KLbpTJ

[desert gulch]

what gpu are they gonna go with eventualy?

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Supernova-Modular-Warranty-220-GT-0650-Y1/dp/B088SSX883/

could save hella money if they dont need a 750 watt

[stoic island]

3070

might as well go higher quality

[untold vessel]

What do you guys think of my build? I'm only going to be playing Minecraft with integrated graphics until I can get a GPU when the market prices go down.

Once I get a GPU, I am going to be playing Minecraft at 4k60fps alongside playing some Triple A Titles as well.

I'm trying to save as much money as physically possible while keeping the specs I already have

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WxW9Mv

[fossil cedar]

Cpu is meh compared to 11600k, especially the integrated graphics and you want a better cooler like a scythe fuma 2

[untold vessel]

Could you alter my list?

[fossil cedar]

Budget?

Without gpu

[untold vessel]

$1,500*

[fossil cedar]

Without gpu or with

[untold vessel]

Without

with

[fossil cedar]

Kk

[untold vessel]

with sorry

wait wity

with*

[fossil cedar]

Ok

[untold vessel]

I'll get the GPU later

[fossil cedar]

You're assuming msrp or like realistic price like 650-700?

Cuz 500$ 3070 is a myth now with tarrifs n stuff

@untold vessel do you need wifi?

[little osprey]

I got one :3

[untold vessel]

Yes absolutely

[untold vessel]

and I'm assuming realistics

[fossil cedar]

When tho? Pretarrif/Extremely lucky with bb drop?

[untold vessel]

lucky

[little osprey]

About a month ago from evga

[fossil cedar]

@untold vessel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cVH3xc

[fossil cedar]

Nice, very lucky

Most 3070s are like 600 at least

Even from evga etc

[untold vessel]

Could anybody help to make my Newest Build cheaper without taking away any parts or lowering the amount of storage / specs? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VkR47X

[desert gulch]

That's impossible kek

Just gotta hope prices go down then

Buy this instead - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KLbpTJ

[stoic island]

why don't you get 11400 @untold vessel

:P

better iGPU

Also b560 cheaper

[desert gulch]

Yes

[stoic island]

For 11400/11500

[untold vessel]

What's the difference

[stoic island]

11400 performs basically as a 10600k, same price, but has a better iGPU, and with b560 boards, won't disable the first m.2 slot because rkl things

also pcie 4.0 but that doesn't really matter

[open oxide]

Oh thanks for a feedback sir, Hope you have a great Day!

[marsh kiln]

i have a chance right now to get a 3070 nfor 950 right now

[hallow glen]

dont

[marsh kiln]

It's still in box sealed with the plastic

[desert gulch]

dont

[stoic island]

800$ max imo

[desert gulch]

yeah

and thats for a good aib one

imo

[hallow glen]

imo

imo

imo

eemo

[marsh kiln]

Where u getting one for 800?

[jagged ember]

Not ebay

Shuffle or bb drops or microcenter

To name 3

Maybe evga drops

970 sounds like a good price when everyone on ebay is scalping it for 1200

[desert gulch]

nah still bad price

when its that close to scalpers its bad

[somber venture]

any good wireless mouse suggestion?

logitech g305 wireless is bad, such a easily to break

[jagged ember]

what do you mean it's wireless is bad?

it uses lightspeed, which is on par with wired latency

i've had 0 issues with my g305 so far

good sensor, lightweight

still get those flicks

[somber venture]

still not good for games.. mate

if you don't have issue with it

i do

[jagged ember]

what do you mean tho

you gotta be more specific

i.e. does it not have enough buttons for you?

[fast dust]

whats wrong with G305

[jagged ember]

i've been gaming on my 305 and the only thing i miss are the g502's amount of buttons lol

[somber venture]

buttons are fine, but have you tried breaking them?

[jagged ember]

no, why would i?

[somber venture]

it broken so easily..

[jagged ember]

what?

[fast dust]

i dont think youre supposed to break a mouse on purpose

[jagged ember]

yeah if you're trying to break something you'll break it

like thats what happens when you do that lol

i could say the same thing for literally anything

take a sledgehammer to any pc component and it breaks easily

[marsh kiln]

See what I have a problem with the people that say it's easy to get the gpus with neweggs thing and bestbuys but the chances of getting anything are slim

[somber venture]

can we stop talking about g305, i said " can anyone suggest me good wireless mouse "

[jagged ember]

g305 is a good wireless mouse lol

[somber venture]

not only g305 is one wirelesss mouse

[jagged ember]

okay, model o wireless

g pro superlight

G502

lightspeed

[fast dust]

i have a wired model D and i can only imagine how nice wireless would be

didnt get model O cause size

[jagged ember]

it's handy lol, but you really aren't missing out on too much

[fast dust]

yeah

[jagged ember]

if it's a portable oriented mouse wireless is a boon lol

otherwise its eh

oh, razer basilisk hyperspeed x

or any of their mice, but i've had a bad experience of double clicking within like 2 months

so your mileage may vary

[tidal elm]

whats the best prebuilt for around the 950 price as i am broke myself

[sand falcon]

There are some serious stock issues right now, how long are you willing to wait?

[tidal elm]

actually one sec

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-shadow-0277-ne/p/N82E16883289152?Description=gaming pc&cm_re=gaming_pc-_-83-289-152-_-Product is this good or no?

[sand falcon]

Most of the actual decent SIs are at a lead time of a few weeks to months

It's not horrible but you could almost definitely do better

[tidal elm]

if i were to wait 6 months what could i get for that price?

[sand falcon]

Probably slightly better stuff

Are there any systems from ABS available right now?

[tough shell]

when getting a new gpu, you have to configure settings in the bios or something do ya?
or just kinda pop and play (after it installs drivers obv)

woohoo

[jagged ember]

unless you're upgrading or something

[tough shell]

im looking at upgrading to a 3080ti when I can get it

from a 980 xd

[jagged ember]

usually a DDU is reccomended yeah

[earnest olive]

only thing you have to do in bios is resizable bar if you want to use that

[jagged ember]

bar is for 3000 series anyways

[tough shell]

but I need to get something <300mm long, otherwise it wont fit in my case

[earnest olive]

[earnest olive]

he did say 3080ti

i remember this guy, his 980 died

[sand falcon]

@tidal elm https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala247/p/N82E16883360151

[tough shell]

what bar? and yeah @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-30-series-resizable-bar-support/

[tough shell]

still having a seizure from time to time

but

oh well

[earnest olive]

it's ok

my 3080 died

[tough shell]

OOF

hit it with a hammer, always fixes it

till

it doesnt

[earnest olive]

hope u aren't trying to oc on that cooler

[tough shell]

take out a wifi compatable mobo and buy a $10 adapter

?

[sand falcon]

Alternatively if you're willing to go a bit more you can get a 2060
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali416-master/p/N82E16883102994R

[tough shell]

and why not Micro atx?

[jagged ember]

ooh this one aint bad

actually worth the slight hike over the 3600 one

[sand falcon]

Yeah, it's over budget though :(

[jagged ember]

mm true

sadge

[tough shell]

I have a 10900f and a b560m-a prime asus mobo. Would this allow for bar resizing?

[sand falcon]

@tidal elm is 1,020 okay? It's a much better system

[tidal elm]

omg thats insane

[gleaming depot]

welp new to server

[tidal elm]

i havent seen a pc as good as that with that same price range in a WHILE

[jagged ember]

is nice

hope you got enough for it

[tough shell]

is that cooler good enough for a 10600k?

[earnest olive]

not for OCing

[tidal elm]

actually i dont think i can get it everything comes up to 1190 and i cant afford that

[earnest olive]

you can push a 10600K to 250W

[tidal elm]

thanks though

[jagged ember]

aw, ripp

there do be an open box one tho

[tidal elm]

wdym

[jagged ember]

1019.99

[gleaming depot]

god im almost done with my build

[sand falcon]

What else are you getting?

[gleaming depot]

i just need my cooler and gpu

[tidal elm]

that was the one i was looking at and it comes up to 1190

[jagged ember]

oohh, i see

[tidal elm]

+tax and all that

[jagged ember]

taxes suck

[sand falcon]

Oh, taxes

Dang

[tidal elm]

ikr

welp that sucks

[jagged ember]

i don't remember they're a thing until i actually gotta pay lmao

[tidal elm]

i was just about to buy it till i saw that

[jagged ember]

and then its all sadness

[tidal elm]

ISTG

[untold vessel]

Here guys, I answered some questions

Hey! I'm trying to make my build as cheap as possible while still keeping 1 TB of SSD, 2 TBs of HDD, and not going into Micro Motherboards, because I need wifi. Could you guys check my build and recommend what improvements I can swap out / add? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JZK7xc

-I am not trying to Overclock.

-I am just using Integrated Graphics as of right now until the GPU market goes down in price. I'll just be playing Minecraft with no Mods or Visual Changers for right now.

-I do not wish to go into Micro ATX because I want to future-proof myself for additional components, but am very willing to swap out my current Motherboard

**Bottom Line, I'm trying to save as much money as possible and am willing to use different parts that have the same performance and reliability. **

[sand falcon]

See if honey has a discount lol

[tidal elm]

lemme check

[jagged ember]

microatx can still harbor upgrades

[tough shell]

was gunna say

you can probably get stuff as expansion add ons too

[jagged ember]

mine has 2 16x slots and 2 1x slots lol

[sand falcon]

How does not using micro ATX future proof @untold vessel ?

[tough shell]

if anything

micro atx is nice cause cheaper

[tidal elm]

sadly no

[tough shell]

so when it's outdated you arent out a ton

[jagged ember]

i gotta make a compromise of my second m.2 is unusable if my 2nd 16x slot is populated

but like, eh

m.2 expansion card

[tough shell]

because what you'd be future proofing for is for when your components are out of date

and so is your mobo

[sand falcon]

That's an Intel motherboard, it's only good for 10th and 11th gen

[untold vessel]

I'm going to be honest, My friend who is experienced in PC Building told me Micro ATXs are just bad without explanation. What's the real difference between them?

[jagged ember]

also futureproofing is kind of not a good way to go about it

remember when amd first released their 6 core cpus?

[rich helm]

Sounds like pcie lane issue not mobo issue

[jagged ember]

expensive and godawful

[sand falcon]

For basically everybody the only difference is the cost

[untold vessel]

What are the important differences?

[jagged ember]

probably, but that's the warning my mobo manual gave me lol

[tidal elm]

is a 1660 the best i can get for 950? (im sorry im asking so many qs)

[untold vessel]

Do you think you could alter my list with a cheaper, appropriate micro atx with wifi?

[rich helm]

If you wait a minute you might be able to get 2060 for 1k before taxes

[tough shell]

do you REALLY need wifi? wifi cards are kinda doo doo

[jagged ember]

yeah, waiting might help the prices go down

[tough shell]

just get a usb adapter for wifi

[jagged ember]

also wifi is unstable even if it's fast

[tough shell]

for like $10-15

[jagged ember]

having to remote into my desktop consistently has proven that pretty well

[rich helm]

Why does one remote into desktop and how

[tidal elm]

what if i cant wait cus its for my little brothers bday

[jagged ember]

i use the parsec

[tidal elm]

hes turning 14 and i wanna surprise him with sum good

[jagged ember]

allow shared user install which lets me access it upon login

[tough shell]

ye, i prefer ethernet but at home, and when im down at school cause the lil *** took out modems and gave us jank wifi that only works 1/100th of the time

they have only wifi available

big sad

wifi doo doo

[rich helm]

I mean wait like a week to see if there’s a deal, if not then get 1660 one

[jagged ember]

school won't ever give you ethernet dw

[tough shell]

we had it for 2 years in res

[jagged ember]

too expnsive to implement

[tough shell]

but

then they took it out

[jagged ember]

oh WTF

whY

[tough shell]

and gave us wifi that doesnt reach everywhere

and costs them the same

and doesn't work half the time

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQdFVc
Here are my changes

[jagged ember]

bruh moment lol

[tough shell]

was on the edge of res last year, and I had to go sit in my vehicle in the middle of winter

in front of our res office

:/

in -40c

kms

[jagged ember]

-40km/s?

thats real fast

[tough shell]

xD

[jagged ember]

but yeah, that sucks

rip good internet

[tough shell]

so im like

but when I move out

[sand falcon]

@untold vessel thoughts?

[tough shell]

and actually get a place outta res or hometown hoping to get gigabit fibre optic

[tough shell]

good thing you aint @ me, my brain is empty

[rich helm]

That’s the microatx hater

Well not hater just unfairly discriminatory

[untold vessel]

Wait, do no micro atx's exist that have wifi built in?

I really, really need wifi

[jagged ember]

wouldn't sn550 be better than the helix L?

[untold vessel]

my wifi box is all the way on the other side of my room

I don't have an ethernet cable to stretch that far

[tough shell]

oh god just realized I put in 35hrs on isaac repentance in the last two weeks, with me working 10hr days at a mill

[jagged ember]

you could buy one, just saying

[tough shell]

make one?

they're easy to make

[jagged ember]

eh

id rather buy lol

[tough shell]

ye

but

idk

[jagged ember]

what am i gonna do with the roll of cable afterwards

[tough shell]

making is cause then u can make a huge one

[untold vessel]

Guys basically I have no knowledge of PC parts and just need help

[tough shell]

make a 300ft ethernet cable obv

[untold vessel]

I need wifi badly

[tough shell]

ceraso

if you can save a bit

[rich helm]

I mean personally I would put the extra 10 bucks down for 3600 cl16 balistics ram

[jagged ember]

you can buy a wifi card

[tough shell]

just get a damn long ethernet cord

or an adapter

[jagged ember]

or get a long ethernet cable

[tough shell]

wifi cards are jank

would not reccomend

[untold vessel]

This is excellent! But, it's more expensive than my original build and it doesn't have a Regular Sized ATX. Is there anything you can do?

[jagged ember]

they work, but performance isn't always stable

[sand falcon]

Could cut back on the fan

Regular ATX gets you literally nothing

[untold vessel]

It does have wifi though

Or does that micro you included have wifi

[rich helm]

They literally aren’t tho

[sand falcon]

I don't think it does

[tough shell]

had like 3 die on me

[jagged ember]

my wifi card's been fine it's just been stuttery sometimes

[tough shell]

@untold vessel this the one I have https://www.amazon.ca/TP-Link-Archer-T4U-Wireless-One-Button/dp/B00JBJ6VG8/ref=sr_1_17?dchild=1&qid=1626062042&refinements=p_89%3ATP-Link&s=pc&sr=1-17

[sand falcon]

What's the stock cooler on the 11500?

[rich helm]

Ur buying the wrong ones then lol, my wifi and Bluetooth card is buttery smooth no problems

[tough shell]

tbh if ur in canada go to the source and you get one

[rich helm]

Bad lol

[jagged ember]

i think 11500 cooler is still dinky one

[tough shell]

ok ngl I wish I had bluetooth, I got another adapter for that, but that's more annoying and space consuming if anything since I don't use it much

[sand falcon]

Hmm, should be enough though

[rich helm]

@sand falcon instead of fuma 2 to save money you could put gammax 400 or se-224-xt both would be completely fine

[tough shell]

Get an evga clc aio?

[jagged ember]

mm the se-224 would be fine i think

no OC anyways

[rich helm]

Evga aio

[tough shell]

:C

I like it, been decent so far

[rich helm]

I put se-224 on 10600k

[rich helm]

Yeah but did it cost less than a Arctic freezer ii

[untold vessel]

Link doesn't work for me

[tough shell]

I got some arctic pwm fans but idk what type specifically

mr1111 recommended them 😄

[rich helm]

P12

Cause Arctic makes like 3 fans and p12 is the good one

[tough shell]

https://www.thesource.ca/en-ca/computers-tablets/networking/wireless-adapters/tp-link-archer-t4u-wireless-ac1200-dual-band-usb-wi-fi-adapter/p/108026474 @untold vessel

rn it's $24 cad

[rich helm]

Ac1200 no no no

[tough shell]

what's an ac1200?

a cooler?

ohh I see

lol

[untold vessel]

What could I do instead? I could perhaps go into Micro RTX's if I knew how to use Ethernet

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M6BrkX
Costs have been cut

[tough shell]

what do u mean how to "use" ethernet?

legit take the cable

plug it in

ez

[sand falcon]

Ethernet is easy, you plug in the cable and go

[jagged ember]

yeah it's much simpler

[rich helm]

No it’s the type of wifi card

[tough shell]

oh

[sand falcon]

In any case, I added wifi

[jagged ember]

well not really it's around the same lol

[tough shell]

i'm small brain sry

:p

[tidal elm]

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-Framless-1920x1080-FreeSync-DisplayPort/dp/B07LD12B8L/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=gaming+monitor+144hz+budget&qid=1626062135&sr=8-7 is this good for the price?

[jagged ember]

both plug & play

[tidal elm]

oops wrong chat srry

[rich helm]

This is good card, you want ax200 cards https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B088PS9QQ9/ref=sspa_mw_detail_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&pd_rd_i=B088PS9QQ9p13NParams

Bluetooth too

[tough shell]

one of my friends got 3 of these, look pretty good

[sand falcon]

@untold vessel here's the new one

[jagged ember]

bob's build has wifi built in

[tough shell]

idk pricewise tho haha

[sand falcon]

Gonna look at an AMD option rq

[jagged ember]

i'd probably go find like one of those antenna extenders

[tough shell]

threadripper 😂

[tidal elm]

can i message u privatly?

[tough shell]

sure 😄 im pretty bad with pc stuff tho xd

[sand falcon]

Ah, right

[rich helm]

Amd is not going to compete with 11500 at all lol

[sand falcon]

5600g would like to know your location

[rich helm]

B560 being cheaper than b550 tho

[sand falcon]

Not that much

[tough shell]

yall know what case is nice, is the obsidian series 1000d

[earnest olive]

11500 is better cpu-wise than 5600g isn't it

[tough shell]

😉

[earnest olive]

but 5600g better igpu

apparently 5600g ties with 3600 in some tasks due to the gimped cache

still i guess you could call them competitors

[sand falcon]

Matter of fact, b550 is cheaper now lol

[untold vessel]

I need the best & optimal integrated graphics on the CPU to hold me over until I can get a GPU at regular prices

[sand falcon]

11500 is Intel's top iGPU

5600g smokes it though, it just costs a bit more

@rich helm https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

[desert gulch]

isnt a 5600g about like a gt1030?

[rich helm]

11500 is the 1030 I thought

[sand falcon]

Something like that. It's capable of most titles at mid to low settings

11500 is more like a 1010

[desert gulch]

https://youtu.be/KycNI1FxIPc?t=584

dang it beats the 10100+1030 combo lol

[sand falcon]

It's solid

If you can find one lol

[desert gulch]

lol

buys prebuilt just to take 5600g out

[sand falcon]

C'mon AMD, we want to give you money, just give us the chip

[tough shell]

integrated graphics

[untold vessel]

**Hey! I'm trying to make my build as cheap as possible while still keeping 1 TB of SSD, 2 TBs of HDD. Could you guys check my build and recommend what improvements I can swap out / add? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rzPz3Z

*-I am not trying to Overclock.

-I am just using Integrated Graphics as of right now until the GPU market goes down in price. I'll just be playing Minecraft with no Mods or Visual Changers for right now.

-I am eventually going to get a 3070 GPU once the prices go down.

-I'll be using Ethernet.

Bottom Line, I'm trying to save as much money as possible and am willing to use different parts that have the same performance and reliability.***

[tough shell]

didn't you just post this a little bit ago?

[desert gulch]

what do you want us to do

[rich helm]

Pretty much as good as it gets tbh

[desert gulch]

we keep giving you reccomendations and you wont take them...

[tough shell]

you can only make it so cheap

before its a complete POS

[rich helm]

That’s like cheapest acceptable I would do

[desert gulch]

i mean 11400 exists

[untold vessel]

Guys I entered all of your suggestions

[desert gulch]

and its cheaper

[tough shell]

make sure you have a good psu and fans for sure tho

[untold vessel]

That link is the NEW new one

I added all of your suggestions into it

[desert gulch]

looks the same as it always has

[tough shell]

you said ur playing mc?

[untold vessel]

What do you guys think of the NEW new build?

Yep just Mc