building-and-recc-chat

[fossil cedar]

Also if you bought on Facebook, most likely it's old and you might have gotten screwed

[little osprey]

lol

[weary ocean]

Fractal Design Meshify C Black ATX
MSI PRO TRX40
Fractal Design Celsius S36 Blackout
Ryzen-9 3950X
Thermaltake TOUGHRAM 8GB memory sitcks (x6)
Phanteks Revolt X power supply
HP Pavilion 32 QHD 32-inch Monitor (x2)
Asus HYPER M.2 X16 GEN 4 CARD
MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 3090 24GB video card

[fast dust]

Bruh

[little osprey]

uhh

okay bro

[fast dust]

3950x won’t work on a TR40 board

[wheat coral]

Lol

[fast dust]

Totally different sockets

[wheat coral]

Why 6 ram sticks for a 3950c

Isn’t it only 2 Channel

[fast dust]

Also yes ^

[weary ocean]

Thanks for letting me know! Any recommendations for what I should use?

[little osprey]

Lmao

[desert gulch]

You can tell me I was right now

[wheat coral]

Msi godlike if overkill

[little osprey]

and AMD board maybe >>>>

[fast dust]

Are you doing this for gaming or workstation

[wheat coral]

But you weren’t

[desert gulch]

Yes I was

[wheat coral]

I think this so is a for fun build

[desert gulch]

I guessed they were doing threadripper

[wheat coral]

And they are doing ryzen 9

[desert gulch]

You guessed first gen Intel or xeon

[wheat coral]

Not thread ripper

[desert gulch]

I'm closer tho

[weary ocean]

Mainly a fun build that I might use

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-tyson-scared-run-freak-out-gif-17539525

[fast dust]

Cuz gaming = 5950x and workstation = 3990x for overkill

[little osprey]

might use???

[wheat coral]

Msi godlike x570

[little osprey]

did you buy any of this yet

[wheat coral]

64 gb 4000 MHz stuff

3090x2

[desert gulch]

Yes

[weary ocean]

Oh god no, I need to save up for more important things like an apartment n stuff

[wheat coral]

That one asus psu with the display

[fast dust]

1200w PSU

[wheat coral]

The Thor platinum 1600w

And ya know

The stuff

[desert gulch]

Homemade 1600w PSU 😏

[fast dust]

😳

[wheat coral]

I just plug directly into the wal

110VO

Up to the board to convert into lower voltages

[desert gulch]

Yes

Make a 2000 watt PSU

Then trip your breaker because your system would def take 2000 watts

[weary ocean]

Would a 3960X work instead of the 3950X?

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Just get 5950x tho

Much more overkill

[weary ocean]

I want to go overkill on the PC not my bank account 🤍

[desert gulch]

Then go 5900x

It's $550

P decent value tbh

[weary ocean]

Are we allowed to send links to products?

Would an AM4 socket work with a TRX40 board?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[weary ocean]

alright so this is the chip I was hoping i wouldn't have to buy
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3960x/p/N82E16819113619?Item=N82E16819113619

[fossil cedar]

Why do you need 24 cores

If on a budget just get a 5950x, has 16 cores , is only 800, boards are wayy cheaper than tr boards

[weary ocean]

Would they both fit with the rest of the parts?

[weary ocean]

The parts in question

[fossil cedar]

Can you use https://pcpartpicker.com/list instead its hard looking at walls of text especially when it's not super specific with the ram etc

Also why meshify c as the case?

A bigger case will give better airflow

[weary ocean]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J3x7LP

[humble gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Vasan_STP/saved/XghJyc

is this a good list

if not what do yall think I should change

[desert gulch]

Aio Mobo ssd

Aio could be Galahad 360 or the ek aio 360

Mobo could be the b550 torpedo, it's on a good sale rn

And for ssd I'd go for a 1tb p31

[humble gulch]

whats bad about the deepcool

[desert gulch]

Just not as good

[humble gulch]

why

[desert gulch]

Because it isn't, different designs and stuff

[humble gulch]

lol

I want to know like the specific differences if u can explain what they are

[desert gulch]

I honestly couldn't, just now that it yields worse results in benchmarks

[fossil cedar]

@ThePaganBeans#0975 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FzqGCz

[desert gulch]

Gamers Nexus has some reviews on them

Im assuming you'll want a hella good aio tho since it's a 5900x and if you wanted to enable pbo and stuff

[humble gulch]

yeah

ive heard that the deepcool was pretty good but ill see

hows the Torpedo B550 better than the msi carbon?

[desert gulch]

Cheaper

But can still perform the same

https://youtu.be/KPLWlkHPlyo

Here's a showdown of the aios

[humble gulch]

thats not the one I have in the list

tho

I have the Deepcool CASTLE 360EX

[desert gulch]

One sec

Hmm

[fossil cedar]

@humble gulch https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GMRDW3 this

[desert gulch]

Yeah freezer ii is really good for the offset mount on ryzen

Last time I checked it was oos everywhere

Hence why I didn't recommend it

[fossil cedar]

It's back in just of today ye

[humble gulch]

not really a fan of the case or case fans, also SSD performs the same as the one I sent in terms of speeds, and motherboard u sent doesent have wifi or bluetooth

and I cant use ethernet as im really far away from my router

[fossil cedar]

The case you had was an actual oven

What about the 4000x by corsair?

[humble gulch]

idk I just dont like the way it looks

[fossil cedar]

The case fans look better irl than that pic bte

[humble gulch]

which is why I have like 9 fans lol

[fossil cedar]

That doesn't fix it

They're pulling air out of nowhere

[humble gulch]

ive built my friend's pc with him and he has the same case, i didnt really like the way it looked lol

[static ravine]

lots of fans doesnt improve temps when they're pulling air from nowhere

[fossil cedar]

Ehh up to speeds is the same but rand(real life performance) is better on the one i sent

[humble gulch]

its got ventilation from bottom, side, and top tho

[fossil cedar]

I'll get a wifi mobo for you then

[static ravine]

side?

[humble gulch]

well

for the AIO lol

but

[fossil cedar]

Soo, get like an o11d if you hate the look of any good cases at least or something, have a look at the p360a or p500a tho

[humble gulch]

the NEO Qube is basically the O11D but cheaper lol

only thing thats better

is that

it can fit a larger GPU

[static ravine]

tbh for a 3080 build I'd go with some sort of airflow focused case

[fossil cedar]

Didn't realize there was side intake

[static ravine]

if you really hate the look of the 4000D theres always P500a which I think looks good

[humble gulch]

around max temps for similar cpu was 70C and GPU was 65C

well

that being said

they dont have the same use for the PC as me

but i dont think air flow would be that bad of an issue, since Id have a lot of exhaust and intake coming from 3 sides

[fossil cedar]

@humble gulch https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s9fqF8

[fossil cedar]

It will be but if you insist

Especially if you're slamming the gpu and cpu at the same time

[humble gulch]

id just take off the side panel if im doing an extremely intensive task lol

[humble gulch]

isnt the Arctic bad with leaks or something? idk ive heard some bad stuff about it

[fossil cedar]

Nope arctic is THE BEST

[humble gulch]

hm alr

[coarse coral]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-sipping-tea-sipping-sips-tea-sip-gif-20884690

[static ravine]

someone is impersonating theo

[humble gulch]

what lol

[static ravine]

nvm

his cat is in his profile banner

[humble gulch]

o

[cursive tusk]

Will a Kraken X63 fit in an H510 ?

:c

[frank stirrup]

why would you do that

buy the h510 that is

its not a pc case

its an oven

[cursive tusk]

dik

idk*

i really liked the nzxt case

looked pretty minimal

[frank stirrup]

it has no airflow

so yes its minimal

airflow wise

[cursive tusk]

hahaha

well i mean if i buy more fans for the case maybe i could see a slight improvement in airflow

[frank stirrup]

theres 2 fan mounting places that do more than 0 airflow

both can do 1 120mm fan

I dont think thats gonna happen

its a garbage case

get the 4000d airflow

[cursive tusk]

is the corsair icue 465x decent

[frank stirrup]

looks meh

front tempered glass

has some gap tho

4000d airflow way better

phanteks p360a

is also very nais

[fossil cedar]

That does f all, you cant suck air out of the hard plastic

@cursive tusk have a look at the corsair 4000x if you think airflow cases look bad

[cursive tusk]

sure

goddamn

the white version with tempered glass looks amazinfg

[crisp solstice]

LIAN LI Mid-Tower Chassis ATX Computer Case PC Gaming Case w/Tempered Glass Side Panel, Magnetic Dust Filter,Water-Cooling Ready, Side Ventilation and 2x120mm Fan Pre-Installed (LANCOOL 205, White) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085DPLBM6/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KEPTJAN9GFDJ4CCFKGW7 same look as the nzxt with better airflow slightly

[cursive tusk]

[crisp solstice]

Lol i like the nzxt look too ended up going h710 but there are lots of options

[cursive tusk]

yeah

i mean nzxt looks pretty nice but oh well what can i do

the nzxt h510 arrives on thursday

[crisp solstice]

Ah

[hollow grail]

ew nzxt

grose

[cursive tusk]

what i do love is their AIOS the Kraken Liquid Coolers are good

[hollow grail]

they're average

pretty bad for the price tbh

[crisp solstice]

There are some modifications you can make to the case to help with the airflow if you want

[cursive tusk]

a little bit overprices but meh

but what i will say is way too overpriced is the Z Kraken series AIOS from NZXT

[crisp solstice]

$100 more for a gif 😂

[fossil cedar]

[frank stirrup]

garbo for the price

[cursive tusk]

exactly like tf

[cursive tusk]

i could use those 100 for extra storage or sum

[crisp solstice]

I got it on sale so $20 for a gif

[fossil cedar]

Send it back

[crisp solstice]

I already had 8T of storage and pretty much everything else I wanted so meh why not

[cursive tusk]

unfortunately i cant no more

[fossil cedar]

They look just like the arctic liquid aios, get those, they cheeper and better

[fossil cedar]

Like getting an airflow case, running no side panels??

[fossil cedar]

Why not?

[cursive tusk]

[crisp solstice]

No using PO 140 fans and sealing the gaps around the fans

And or push/pull when using a rad

[cursive tusk]

what exactly is push and pull config I never fully understood

[crisp solstice]

Fans on both sides of the radiator

[cursive tusk]

oh okk

[fossil cedar]

Push pull rad is a mega waste of money

[crisp solstice]

Maybe

[cursive tusk]

if the nzxt h510 is an oven imagine the H1 case or the 210 those are bombs

[fossil cedar]

Not mb it is lok

[crisp solstice]

The main issue with the h510 is the intake is so narrow and filtered that it’s easier for the fans to suck air around them then through the filter. So you end up with a vortex of hot air In The front. Sealing around the fans helps as does using pressure optimized and or powerful fans

[marsh kiln]

Where is the best spot for a radiator top of a case or front?

[crisp solstice]

Depends on the case but usually top

[fossil cedar]

Top, but if you can fit a larger one on the front instead of the top, front

[cursive tusk]

isn't the intake on top? or

[fossil cedar]

Nooo, heat rises, top exhaust

[cursive tusk]

aight

[crisp solstice]

Nope intake is on the front exhaust on top and back

[still roost]

[X-501] Ocean#7287 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[cursive tusk]

oh then the intake on the h510 is doo doo

[crisp solstice]

Yes

You can make it work but it’s a pain in the butt

Much easier to just use a better case

[marsh kiln]

The case is the silverstone pm02

[cursive tusk]

well i can say that my first mistake as of building my first pc is buying a case bcz of looks

[crisp solstice]

Rad up top is better

Or 360 up front

[crisp solstice]

Looks are important just needed more info

[cursive tusk]

@crisp solstice do u think the x63 will fit in my h510

[crisp solstice]

Yeah it does

What gpu you got though?

[cursive tusk]

i got a zotac 1660 super in mind

[crisp solstice]

Ok that’s fine then

I tried to stuff a 3080 in mine didn’t work so good.

‘‘Twas a snug fit

[cursive tusk]

goddamn u need 3 8-pin connectors to power that graphics card

[crisp solstice]

Yeah lol

I had to make the 3rd one

The kit I had only had 2

[cursive tusk]

what psu are u rocking

[crisp solstice]

Crappy g+ 1000w

Initially I bought the best I could find at Best Buy that day 😂

[cursive tusk]

isnt 1000 w overkill

[crisp solstice]

Not at all

[cursive tusk]

well i dont know which cpu u are using

[crisp solstice]

My overall power draw is over 600w

At the outlet

[cursive tusk]

oh dang

[crisp solstice]

Ideally you want to aim for 50% usage of your power supplies rating

For efficiency and long life

Might be old rule of thumb but I’ve never had issues using it lol

[cursive tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPGMKXUXiI8

[crisp solstice]

Lol yeah they lost the hype wars

[cursive tusk]

go team red haha

[crisp solstice]

So many people right after insisting that zen2 and even zen 1 beats intel because the 5900x< did.

I spent less then $300 on my cpu and it out performs every 5800x I’ve come across in games.

[ancient wraith]

I need some help

[crisp solstice]

What’s up?

[ancient wraith]

I needed to replace the bottom fan on my td500 mesh and there is no way to screw it in and the pin things won't work

[queen dagger]

yay i got $200 today, i think imma buy ram. should it be something else? or is ram the next thing i should go for. i already have my Mobo, cpu, case, and 2.5' ssd

[crisp solstice]

I’d put it towards a gpu unles your wanting to use the pc without one for a while

[queen dagger]

i think i would rather wait to see what happens to GPU prices

[ancient wraith]

How do I use these

I cant send pics

[crisp solstice]

Ok cool then yeah I’d recommend crucial or patriot right now they are good stay away from Corsair though

[queen dagger]

yea i plan on crucial ballistix

[cursive tusk]

What about kingston's hyperx fury ram? is that good

[crisp solstice]

I’m sure some are can’t speak to the quality control though

Don’t see many Kingston kits these days

[ancient wraith]

PlZ someone help how do I replace bottom fan on td500 mesh

[crisp solstice]

The screws should be accessible from the basement

You might have to remove the HD cage if there isn’t room for the screwdriver

[frank stirrup]

specs?

what all do you have

like parts

@queen dagger

[vague oracle]

Crucial Ballistix

[ancient wraith]

What does it mean if a new fan keeps stopping and running over and over

[crisp solstice]

The rpms are probably set too low. Check your fan curves

[ancient wraith]

Ram

[crisp solstice]

Lol

[queen dagger]

P500a, ASUS ROG STRIX B550-f Gaming (WiFi 6), Ryzen 5900x, and a 1tb Samsung 860 evo

sorry all i can here is minecraft cows didnt hear the ping

and what i plan on getting is 32gb of 3600 cl16 RGB memory from crucial

Ballistix RGB

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083VN3CP1?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[queen dagger]

yes

[crisp solstice]

What are your plans for cooling?

[queen dagger]

360 Lian Li Galahad

[crisp solstice]

Nice

[queen dagger]

or maybe EK AIO

not fully decided yet, but leaning to the Galahad

[crisp solstice]

I like the Galahad better

[queen dagger]

it looks better the EK one is just kinda cheap imo

looks cheap*

[crisp solstice]

The frosted RGB looks pastel

[queen dagger]

yup

well imma go back to breeding cows until entity cramming ping me if needed

[frank stirrup]

go for it

[pliant schooner]

Witch is better the Asus ROG MAXIMUS XII FORMULA ATX LGA1200 Motherboard or the Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula ATX AM4 Motherboard

[crisp solstice]

Pretty sure the formula is a higher tier then the Maximus, both are pretty serious boards what you planning on doing with them?

[fossil cedar]

This was already answered in general btw they tripple posted, and one is intel and other is amd you cant compare

[tropic widget]

Hey all. Looking to make a new build as soon as I get the chance at picking up a 30 series card (current build is a 970). But I figured I might as well get a second set of eyes on what I have planned for the new build in case something in it is not smart. Can someone spot check for me?

CPU: i9-10850
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Z63
Motherboard: NZXT N7 Z490
Memory: Corsair Dominator Plat RGB 32GB
Storage: WD SN750 1 TB
Video Card: 3080 (would also settle for 3070 or 3070 ti)
Case: NZXT H510 Elite
Power Supply: NZXT 850 W 80+ gold
Fans: NZXT AER RGB CFM 120 and 140

[stoic island]

What's with the NZXT choices?

[fossil cedar]

Nzxt is not good at making coolers or fans or intel motherboards or cases

Or anything

Amd motherboards are okay by nzxt

But that's about it

[tropic widget]

I was following a guide to build rather than going solely on my own. Good to know that’s not a good brand to follow at all

[stoic island]

Also, pcpp is useful
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[fossil cedar]

Their power supplies are fine but there are way better competitors

[stoic island]

NZXT is kinda just... not great?

[fossil cedar]

Build guides basically work with all parts they are basically adult lego

[tropic widget]

Yeah that’s what I had mine in, but wasn’t sure if linking it was fine or not, so I just typed it out

[stoic island]

Yea, link it.

[fossil cedar]

Also the sn750 should be good but is actually meh

Also Corsair make meh ram

[stoic island]

mhm

[tropic widget]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FRTfz7

Definitely saved me some hassle then. I’ll have to do a lot more investigating before getting any other parts then

[stoic island]

@tropic widget Do you live near a microcenter?

[tropic widget]

Roughly 30 min drive. Just drove there this morning to do the queue system and they posted no truck today, so a bit of a waste of a drive

Never been into one before though

[stoic island]

Just keep in mind MC has a bunch of things for cheaper, for example, 10850k for 320$ at MC.

To start at the top

[hollow grail]

microcenter cute

[vague oracle]

I love MC

[hollow grail]

i need to go there actually

swap like 100 16gb usbs out

irs an hour away tho

lili location dox

[vague oracle]

Which one?

[hollow grail]

thats too much of a location dox

[vague oracle]

Oh lol

[stoic island]

the z63 is way overpriced, so is h510 elite, I would grab something like a P500a or TD500 mesh for the case, and change the cooler to a galahad 360mm, ek-aio drgb 360mm, or an arctic freezer ii 360mm that'll fit top mount in a P500a or TD500 mesh

[fossil cedar]

@tropic widget rgb aio or no?

[hollow grail]

and add hdd

spinnies my beloveds

[stoic island]

lol

[vague oracle]

Crucial Ballistix Ram

It’s where it’s at

[stoic island]

ballistix is great

[vague oracle]

And it looks clean at the same time

[stoic island]

@tropic widget Do you need wifi?

[tropic widget]

Oh tyvm for those suggestions

[stoic island]

(Suggestions based off performance testing by GN)

[tropic widget]

I was planning rgb but not the end of the world without

[fossil cedar]

Okay cool

[tropic widget]

Not particularly as I hardwire in

But I have external WiFi usb hookups if need be. They’re just not ideal and I haven’t needed that for quite some time

[stoic island]

Then for the board, you could choose between a MSI Z490-a pro or a Gigabyte Z490 Gaming X, They both have pretty decent VRMs, the Gaming X a bit better VRM, but there's also other needs of your own for io and such.

[fossil cedar]

@tropic widget https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNVMkX

Get that

[stoic island]

one step at a time >:P

[tropic widget]

My only main want was a 3080 graphics card with a build. Looking to game/stream supporting 4K or at least 1440p when gaming. Was willing to go as high as $2500, which that build had satisfied so I’m really glad I didn’t drop all that prior to hearing about NZXT

[vague oracle]

Especially at that price point you don’t want an H510

The thing is an oven

[stoic island]

@tropic widget How important is RGB on the ram for you?

[fossil cedar]

Never mwahsha

[tropic widget]

Wow that is a lot better of a price point

[tropic widget]

Phew

[stoic island]

I'm just feeling like going one step at a time to talk about reasoning behind everything

:P

[tropic widget]

I liked it aesthetically, but if it was going to mark it up a few hundred or something, then it wasn’t important lol

[stoic island]

anyways, Ballistix is better than Corsair sticks for dies, 4x8 Ballistix rgb works

[vague oracle]

It’s maybe like 10-20 on Crucial Ballistix I’m pretty sure

[tropic widget]

I really appreciate the explanations. Copying all the texts to go over in detail later when I’m researching

[vague oracle]

This is the crucial Ballistix RGB

[stoic island]

source for vrms
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yPS3hj_K7EPT4RBWCyjdKNP56pnwDz-IgBc0975-FUg/edit#gid=0

[stoic island]

Anyways, next, the P31 Gold is just a really good drive for the rnd performance, which is generally more useful than just higher sequential performance for most people.

Source
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sk-hynix-gold-p31-m2-nvme-ssd-review

[tropic widget]

Ooh those look slick

[fossil cedar]

Thanks :)

[stoic island]

P500a is just a great case for airflow and compatibility and the pricepoint, and Revolution D.F. is a great PSU, although NZXT C is good, Revo D.F. is great, it offers better voltage regulation iirc, and it's a multi rail unit, which, at higher wattages, offer better protections (mainly ocp).
Good easy resource for PSUs:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[fossil cedar]

And same price for an extra 100w

[stoic island]

nzxt c 850w was also 130$ but yea

[fossil cedar]

Ohh thought they had the 750w version

I would trust nzxt to make an oven but that's about it

[stoic island]

I mean

NZXT C is just a rebranded seasonic focus unit

so the unit is actually decent

[fossil cedar]

And i trust their amd board(n7 b550) because asrock makes lol

[fossil cedar]

Ohh fair but still

[fossil cedar]

Go buy the seasonic focus then kek

[stoic island]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tropic widget]

Finally just fully went through all those notes to catch up. Thank you very much for the recommendations and explanations @stoic island and thank you @fossil cedar for summarizing in a build list for me!

[stoic island]

:)

[fossil cedar]

Np :)

[unreal plover]

Anyone ever had a problem with Thermaltake fans and aoi cooling? The controller keeps going in and out?

Tried two motherboards and multiple controllers and even changed the PSU.

so frustrating

.Error = Could not find Fan Controller, Please check the Fan Controller is connected (error Code:H_0x0001) even tried connecting it to usb instead of header.

[meager nacelle]

I’m back with the questions, if my m.2 has like a tag/barcode on top of it, can I put the heat sink that the motherboard provided for the m.2 on top of it

I’m just wondering if I need take the barcode thing off the m.2 then put the heatsink on top

[native jacinth]

Any thoughts?

[hollow grail]

yes

do not remove it if you value your warranty

[gloomy merlin]

So question here: what do i do if bios update taking long itll blink forever

[hollow grail]

that's actually why it has "dont remove this, or it will void your warranty" written on the sticker

[fossil cedar]

Thoughts on?

[fossil cedar]

How long?

[fossil cedar]

Probs a wack controller

[unreal plover]

exchanged it and still the same even brought the commander pro

I did see if don't like AMD boards. I just wished it would work. Tried contacting ThermalTake and even got on discord but no help. Just frustrating. I hope someone can help.

[hollow grail]

best advice you're gonna get is never buy anything made by TT again

i wouldnt trust a toothpick from them

[unreal plover]

They used to be good

[hollow grail]

lol

[unreal plover]

What happened?

[hollow grail]

maybe 20 years ago

🇨🇳

[unreal plover]

Probably right. I am old

[hollow grail]

actually idk they might be taiwanese

yep taiwanese

they just stopped rly caring about quality

i never really remember them being good tbh

[unreal plover]

That is so sad to hear. Suggestions on replcement?

[hollow grail]

just somewhat passable

I'm not the most knowledgable abt fan hubs tbh

or are you looking for an AIO

[unreal plover]

fans and AIO

none of them work. I have the Lian LI case which has 9 fans.

well won't say they don't work...just half the time they work.

[hollow grail]

aio i'd get smth by EK or Arctic

fans im not too sure about, i generally just buy noctua

@earnest olive gib fan recs

[unreal plover]

RBG stuff was the goal sometimes I wonder if it is worth it.. I know Noctua fans are awesome.

[earnest olive]

are you an epic rgb gamer or no

[hollow grail]

🙏

thanks for steppin in babe

[earnest olive]

[unreal plover]

I love gaming and wanted to spruce the office up. LOL!

[earnest olive]

people out here saying rgb for kids

my 56 year old mom LOVES rgb

one time i built a pc without any rgb and she's like "why is this one so boring"

are these fans going on a radiator or just general case fans

[unreal plover]

LOL! I mean it adds that flair to the room.

[earnest olive]

need pressure optimized fans for a radiator so there is a difference

[unreal plover]

PWM fans

I brought the radiator separate which had it's own fans.

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8CWBD3/phanteks-ph-f120sk-50-cfm-120-mm-fan-ph-f120sk_drgb_pwm like these would be fine for case fans but would be terrible on a radiator

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QpH7YJ/arctic-p12-pst-a-rgb-0db-488-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00231a these fans are gonna be better if you don't mind paying a bit more premium

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcgQzy/uphere-t7syc7-120-mm-fans-3-pack-t7syc7-3 pretty much the cheapest argb pwm fans you'll get, come as a 3 pack which is nice esp if you need a controller

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8LwrH/uphere-nt1207-5-8634-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-nt1207-5 or these very cheap white ones

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ6p99/arctic-p12-pwm-pst-a-rgb-0db-488-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-acfan00232a there's a 3 pack of the arctics that would probably be my #1 recommendation

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gtkgXL/cooler-master-masterfan-mf120-halo-472-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-mfl-b2dn-183pa-r1 if you're into the double ring look it'll cost you

[unreal plover]

what about Corsair? Are they anygood?

[gloomy merlin]

2 hours

[earnest olive]

really don't like corsair

overpriced and they use proprietary rgb connectors

so you have to buy their controller and use their software

and their software is a massive resource hog

[gloomy merlin]

Thats the point

[unreal plover]

gotcha..

[gloomy merlin]

They do that to make money

[earnest olive]

i have one corsair device (keyboard)

put 3 effects on the software to try it out

saw 19% cpu usage on an overclocked ryzen 5 5600x

for 3 lighting effects.

[unreal plover]

Dang! Yeah I don't want to go that route.

[earnest olive]

with my standard rgb fans i can control all 9 of them with 0% cpu usage lol

and didn't have to buy anything extra to make them work

[unreal plover]

Smart decision.

That gives me a lot to look at now.

Thank you!

[earnest olive]

yeah my #1 recommendation would be the arctic p12 argb 3-pack

balance of price/performance

[unreal plover]

What does it men by semi passive?

is that the lighting

nevermind found it

[earnest olive]

means that it can turn off at very low temps if you set it to

[fossil cedar]

Uhh ohh

[gloomy merlin]

Im scared

👀

[fossil cedar]

It's never happened to me before but @earnest olive if you're still there, this guy has been updating bios for 2 hrs 👀

Also I'm tired and can't really think rn

[gloomy merlin]

Ive tried it a couple of times and just blinks

[hollow grail]

which is why we do not give them money

[vague oracle]

What board is it?

[gloomy merlin]

Mpg b550 gaming carbon wifi

[earnest carbon]

Hey guys does anyone know any good cable combs for the ROG Strix 850W PSU?

[earnest olive]

@gloomy merlindid you rename the bios file?

i think msi wants you to rename it to MSI.ROM for the bios flash

don't remember if that's the exact name

[gloomy merlin]

Yea i did rename it

[earnest olive]

is it in the correct usb slot? only one works for bios flash

[gloomy merlin]

Yes

Idk what it could be

[wraith herald]

Ok, so I am building a computer for the first time and am confused with my psu. The psu is not clearly labeled and I need to know if it is ok if I accidentally plug a 4+4 cpu cable into a 6+2 PCIe port on the power supply.

[rich helm]

They usually share the same pinouts on the psu side

[wraith herald]

So it doesn't matter if I mix them up?

[stoic island]

Give it a while

[rich helm]

Shouldn’t matter I think, but check your manual just in case

[stoic island]

It shouldn't fit if it isn't supposed to fit most of the time

although pinout for 8 pin pcie and 8 pin eps on PSU side is weird

[earnest olive]

yeah sorry i got nothing then

oh

wait no

1 more thing

is the usb formatted as FAT32?

[wraith herald]

Thanks

[stoic island]

reset cmos could help too

[gloomy merlin]

I was thinking downloading thru msi dragon center

Connect it thru LAN driver

[desert gulch]

I wonder if anyone has ever put all their pcie and eps power cables into a Mobo 24 pin and turned it on lol

[stoic island]

Lmao

[stoic island]

Please do not use software to update bios, it's a horrible idea, and dragon center is pretty bad in general too.

[earnest olive]

for sure wouldn't fit

the clips would block it

and the pin holes are different shapes anyways

[formal garnet]

You think I'll be able to get windows pro for $20 and do you know first hand if its legit? My new build is saying to "activate Windows" Thanks for the help with my build btw. Everything is hooked up and looking great ❤️

[little osprey]

final build. all purchased https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCPjF8

[still roost]

MrJughead87#8906 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[formal garnet]

I did not use a bad word btw

[little osprey]

1/10

[stoic island]

Yes, quite a bit.

1600af is quite out of date now, built on an architecture that's what, 4 years old now

A400 is kinda a crappy drive

1050ti is far from optimal

And rm 750w is just a bit overkill at the moment

It's out of date

That's the gist of it

I'd try something like 10400+b560 for CPU and board

Ram is good

Would try to at least get a p2 500gb as the drive, something like a sn550 500gb would be even better

For the graphics card, well, it's what you can get your hands on, but 3060 is worth a try, and 3050ti is coming soon

For the PSU, A-GF 750w has a really good deal atm

[earnest olive]

those psus are all hilariously overkill for a 1050ti

[stoic island]

Bleach your time has come

But 90$ for a-gf 750w is a great deal

[earnest olive]

like thats a low profile 1050ti with no external power connectors

LOL

[stoic island]

I disappear now

[earnest olive]

people put those in dell optiplex with 200w psu

anyways first guy could have been nicer but yes your entire list has to be scrapped

well

i guess the case isn't too bad

at least you did not pick nzxt h510

i will say though, as someone who has built in this case, it is a HUGE pain to get hard drives in there

well

i've built pcs with more than triple the performance for around this budget

so

so mr1111 was absolutely correct recommending an i5-10400f

anything ryzen before 3000 series was garbage at gaming

this 1600 is about on par with intel third gen

which is from... 2012

anyways the biggest problem is buying a new graphics card

you would be much better served buying a used graphics card in this market

just give me a bit to make some changes and see where the budget lands

stop, you're going to make me blush

[frank stirrup]

Sippy

[earnest olive]

hello

[frank stirrup]

Ur breathtaking

[earnest olive]

uwu..

@little osprey do you need the 2tb hdd? if a 1tb ssd is the same price as the 240gb ssd + 2tb hdd would you rather have that

ouch

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Wm4yCz so here for most of the system
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/new/ browse here for a graphics card, target GTX 1060 6GB for $300 or less

[stoic island]

Back, I'd personally get a P360a for the case for the price, and smth like sn550 or maybe mp33 for cheaper for the drive

Afaik p34a80 swapper controller from e12 to sm2258 or smth

[earnest olive]

yeah those are also good choices

i bought a p360a today

[stoic island]

P360a neat

[earnest olive]

didn't hear about the controller swap

is it bad?

[stoic island]

Lemme check

Remeber seeing it on the sheet

[earnest olive]

btw

while you're here

fastest tm5 run yet lol

[hollow grail]

[stoic island]

Yea to sm2262en, which isn't a bad controller, it's actually same controller as on pilot e, but yea, don't like switching controllers :p

[stoic island]

God damn it my 3 hour runs are annoying

[hollow grail]

[earnest olive]

i'd assume it runs twice as long since you have 32gb

[stoic island]

Prob

And also slow ram

[hollow grail]

i have to wait around 8 hours to a day for ram tests

kill me

[stoic island]

@earnest olive by any chance do you know how tuning SCLs works?

Lower them all at once or one at a time?

And do they depend on vsoc or vdimm?

[sinful vessel]

does anybody know if installing a new motherboard [new one having WIFI] (keeping all other components the same) can mess up anything with windows?

[hollow grail]

yes

[stoic island]

Windows sometimes doesn't like it

[hollow grail]

if its hwid it doesnt like it most of the time

[stoic island]

Since afaik they can tie the key to the board

[sinful vessel]

ah 😐

[hollow grail]

they do tie the key to the board

[sinful vessel]

hwid?

[hollow grail]

yep

[sinful vessel]

what

[stoic island]

It's how windows identifies your PC basically

[sinful vessel]

oh

[stoic island]

Basically think of it as how windows can tell if you're on the same computer or you're trying to use the key on a different computer

[sinful vessel]

oh

does it not being activated , or not activating it using a windows key change anything?

[stoic island]

Not too much

[sinful vessel]

oh

[stoic island]

Just a few things that can be bypassed but can be annoying

[sinful vessel]

oh

dang okay, thanks

[earnest olive]

check the price of rx 470/480/570/580

[desert gulch]

Better than adata atleast lol

[desert gulch]

Literally all it does is limit personalization settings, and gives you a dumb watermark

But watermark can be bypassed by a little trick

[sinful vessel]

oh

[desert gulch]

And you can still set wallpaper and stuff thru diff means so it would all work still

[sinful vessel]

ah okay

[cursive tusk]

good motherboard with lga1200 socket under 200?

[stoic island]

For what chip?

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[meager nacelle]

ohh so its fine if my heatsink is touching it. I just thought that if it got hot or something it would burn/melt the tag and that would be bad.

[hollow grail]

tags are generally like

really thin metal

with teeny sticker bit on top

[fossil cedar]

Yes https://www.urcdkey.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-oem-cd-key-global_1966-20.html

[frank stirrup]

those are expensive

ebay has em for 5$

[fossil cedar]

They are a lot of volume license keys that will get deactivated soon, these are legit, and imo ehh just don't activate but if you do might as well make sure it's legit

[frank stirrup]

you can get your money back on ebay

also they are oem keys and stuff

[fossil cedar]

Fair but ehh i can't reliably tell someone all ebay keys are legit sooo that's easier

[formal garnet]

I'm in the middle of a Paypal dispute with urcdkey because the key they sold me was a Windows 7 Pro key and not a Windows 10 Pro key.

[fossil cedar]

Bro, that's because you can use windows 7 keys to activate windows 10 still 🤦

Same thing

[frank stirrup]

Same thing lmao

[maiden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

Waiting for the rest of my components to deliver so I can build my new setup

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[wintry gust]

whats a good MSI Motherboard for a Ryzen 9 5900x? AM4 - for gaming and graphic design

I have an MSI graphics card so I figured I'd mise well stay msi

I was going to go: MSI MPG X570 Gaming PRO CARBON WiFi
but I heard its not good for 12 core processors.. so not sure where to go from here

[fossil cedar]

1 why look only msi but i would go with a msi b550 tomohawk or b550 asus tuf or b550 gaming edge wifi

[fossil cedar]

It's overpriced, b550s usually have better vrms(cpu power delivery) than x570s

Anyway

[wintry gust]

hrmmm

what if I do another brand then?

I was looking at the 570s now

I kinda don't want to spend more than 250 though

but I will if I have no choice lol

[fossil cedar]

Read the list i sent you, they are all cheaper and better

X570s are generally worse than b550s

[wintry gust]

ahhh gotcha

ok kewl ty 🙂

[fossil cedar]

Np

[vague oracle]

Out of curiosity how are B550s compared to a Crosshair VIII hero?

Without mentioning value/money

[wintry gust]

last question... whats a pretty decent 2 tb ssd? I want to get two. I was looking at this

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-T-FORCE-Graphene-Internal-TM8FP8002T0C311/dp/B08TLSM85F/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=teamgroup%2B2tb&qid=1625673653&sr=8-3&th=1

[vague oracle]

Either a P31 Hynix Gold or Pilot E

[fossil cedar]

Bit of an unfair comparison since it has 12 cpu pins and is 2x the price and designed for liquid nitrogen overclocking

[wintry gust]

what are those? sorry never heard of these

[fossil cedar]

Get muskin pilot e

[vague oracle]

True😂

[fossil cedar]

Unfortunately no 2tb p31 yet

[vague oracle]

There isn’t?

[fossil cedar]

Nvme ssds that are better

[fossil cedar]

Nope 512 and 1tb

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok

[wintry gust]

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-e-2tb/p/N82E16820226902?Description=muskin pilot e&cm_re=muskin_pilot e-_-20-226-902-_-Product&quicklink=true

Ohhhhhh shiny

[fossil cedar]

That's it ye

[vague oracle]

Only has 10 cpu pins, one 8 pin and one 4 pin

Wait

Wait a damn minute

I can’t math

[fossil cedar]

That's 12 lol

[vague oracle]

Realized that now

Is LN2 cooling even worth it for every day use?

And how would I get started with it?

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/big-shaq-mans-not-hot-math-gif-10285836

[fossil cedar]

Not really possible

[fossil cedar]

Not unless you like no case and heat soaking the cpu so no cold bugs etc lol

[pliant schooner]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

thoughts ^^^^

[vague oracle]

I’m guessing because of it leaking

[fossil cedar]

You need to send the list in the yellow box, not the url bar btw

[pliant schooner]

what yellow box

[fossil cedar]

Well you need to keep replacing the ln2

[fossil cedar]

In pc pp

[pliant schooner]

k

[fossil cedar]

@pliant schooner I was looking at the 570s now this box

[vague oracle]

For a second I was wondering why is this exactly the same as my mini itx build plan

Until I realized it actually is

[fossil cedar]

@vague oracle der baur has plenty of great vids on ln2 oc btw

[vague oracle]

Mobo overkill

[pliant schooner]

is it good'

[vague oracle]

Cooler go for Arctic Freezer II 360

[pliant schooner]

Will il be able to run games 240 fps +

[vague oracle]

Swap ram out for Crucial Ballistix RGB 3600 Cl16

[fossil cedar]

@pliant schooner send this link

[pliant schooner]

oh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CtFQJf

[fossil cedar]

Thanks

[pliant schooner]

thanks

[vague oracle]

SSD use a Mushkin Pilot E 1Tb

[fossil cedar]

10850k or go amd, it's a 10900k but cheaper

Arctic liquid ii or ek or lian li galahad for aio

Ssd as alec said

[pliant schooner]

huh

[fossil cedar]

Motherboard needs to be changed

[vague oracle]

PSU Enermax Revolution DF 850w

[pliant schooner]

why

[thorn heart]

How much should I be looking for a 980 ti, GTX 1070, and a R5 3600

[fossil cedar]

The 10850k is a cheaper 10900k, don't spend that much on an intel cpu, at that point you could get a ryzen 9 5900x which is better

[vague oracle]

Completely overkill

[fossil cedar]

Stupid overkill, that's a liquid nitrogen overclocking board

[pliant schooner]

so

[fossil cedar]

Doesn't improve performance, just a waste of like 250$

[vague oracle]

^

More like 300

Maybe 350

[pliant schooner]

whats a mother board u

recommond

[fossil cedar]

Was being generous, of the pricing, intel z boards are bit more expensive

[vague oracle]

True

Personally I’d change to a 5900x

[fossil cedar]

@pliant schooner what's your budget and use for the pc?

[fossil cedar]

Same that's why im asking

[pliant schooner]

3700

[fossil cedar]

And use for the pc?

Gaming?

[pliant schooner]

games/streaming

[fossil cedar]

Okay

@pliant schooner you want an rgb aio?

[pliant schooner]

whats that mean

i know what rgb is and yes

[fossil cedar]

Aio=all in one (liquid cooler)

Ie the cpu cooler

@pliant schooner cpu cooler, black or white?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yLBhP6/ek-ek-aio-360-d-rgb-6604-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ek-aio-360-d-rgb this or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gcsnTW/lian-li-galahad-aio-360-rgb-6917-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-galahad-aio-360-rgb-white or this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q2Dkcf/lian-li-galahad-aio-360-rgb-6917-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-galahad-aio-360-rgb-black

What do you prefer?

Looks wise

[pliant schooner]

yes liqued colling

[fossil cedar]

Which one do you think looks the best out of the ones i linked

[pliant schooner]

i want the kraken

[fossil cedar]

It's bad

Why do you want the kraken

Did you even look at the others?

[pliant schooner]

so i like the logo lmao

yes

[fossil cedar]

Ohh the screen? Just add a screen yourself, then you can put anything on it

[pliant schooner]

im not that smart

yes the screen

what whould my cpu be

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-face-palm-iron-man-rdj-why-gif-10994785

[pliant schooner]

lmaoo

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen 9 5900x

But it's so crap especially for the price

Did you look at the other ones ?

[pliant schooner]

what

[fossil cedar]

They are rgb as well

[pliant schooner]

i can't find it

[fossil cedar]

These

Look at those links

And which one is best

[pliant schooner]

i did

IM KEEPING MY KRAken

[fossil cedar]

Okayyy

It's just not good :(

[pliant schooner]

its ok

rysen won't how up in my cpu

[fossil cedar]

@pliant schooner https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4cNfbh

[fossil cedar]

What?

[pliant schooner]

its cause my mother board

of

[vague oracle]

Yeah you gotta change your mobo

[vague oracle]

He means it won’t show up in the CPU tab in PCPP

[pliant schooner]

i like it tho

[fossil cedar]

Just use my link

[vague oracle]

Waste of money for your uses

[fossil cedar]

^^^^^

[obsidian wigeon]

the mobo should support the chip

[vague oracle]

He’s going 5900x

[obsidian wigeon]

pcpp just warns some b550 boards has an issue

[fossil cedar]

They had 10900k in list, and z490, think they were tryna edit their list instead of using my link

[vague oracle]

Oh nvm I thought you were talking about the 10900k and the overkill board

[obsidian wigeon]

oh

well sad

tfw stubborn people

[still roost]

Patokav#2667 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[obsidian wigeon]

rip

[vague oracle]

Nice

Gg

[fossil cedar]

That wasn't duplicated grr

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QVn8TW/asrock-x570-steel-legend-wifi-ax-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-steel-legend-wifi-ax

[sullen spoke]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y96qqs/asus-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-a-gaming https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JXBhP6/asus-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-b550-f-gaming https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gwPgXL/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QVn8TW/asrock-x570-steel-legend-wifi-ax-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-steel-legend-wifi-ax you like the look of any of these, if you don't like the one I picked?

[obsidian wigeon]

mee6 being bad

lmao

[fossil cedar]

Thanks ghosty

[fossil cedar]

@pliant schooner like any of these

Or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tJxbt6/asrock-x570-extreme4-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-extreme4

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jKLwrH/asrock-b550-taichi-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-taichi

Or this

Damm that looks nice

[vague oracle]

Damn you’re making me want to buy that taichi lol

Too bad I’m too attached to my Crosshair Hero

But then again I could always throw it into my work build

[fossil cedar]

Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZRBhP6/gigabyte-x570-aorus-master-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-aorus-master

[obsidian wigeon]

i wish i could build a pc outta my own hands

[fossil cedar]

@pliant schooner https://pcpartpicker.com/product/L23mP6/asus-rog-crosshair-viii-hero-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-crosshair-viii-hero here if you really want that motherboard you can get on amd too

[obsidian wigeon]

all i got closest to the experience was just cleaning a prebuilt

lmao

didn't even take it apart much

just side panel, wiped some fans and vents

[fossil cedar]

Oof

@pliant schooner https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLqx3Z you're build with the motherboard and cooler you want

Still 500 under budget, nice

Lmao

[pliant schooner]

k

[vague oracle]

Of course that’s with a scalped GPU but still

Might as well go for a Strix 3080

[fossil cedar]

I get a k after all that 😢

[fossil cedar]

Yeah lol

I cba to change it tho

[pliant schooner]

lmao srry thank for all your help @fossil cedar

[thorn heart]

How much should I be looking for a 980 ti, or a GTX 1070, and a R5 3600

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

You selling them off?

980 ti/1070 are pretty dam close in perf so like 300ish$ somewhere in that range, r5 3600 I'd say you could sell for 110$

[desert gulch]

I'd go like 125 for R5 3600

[fossil cedar]

Thing is i reckon you could get 10400s for that price

[desert gulch]

But you may be able to go much higher like 175 with it, since most ppl don't even know 10400 exist

Some kid who watches ltt and stuff would prolly buy a 3600 for more than a new 10400

[fossil cedar]

Fair lol

[desert gulch]

Yeah

Gotta take advantage of kids

[fossil cedar]

They actually stopped selling new 10400s :(

[desert gulch]

Who want to make a b450 tomahawk max and 3600 build

Sad

[fossil cedar]

True true

[frank stirrup]

overclock tho

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh idk 10400 still better, just remove power limits

[frank stirrup]

No ur still better

Heh get rekt

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-wink-wink-winking-rowan-atkinson-gif-15388297

[hollow grail]

how much should i sell a 1080 for lmao

i havent kept up with pricing but i just swapped it for a 1650

[frank stirrup]

.786 kidney

[hollow grail]

whats that in usd

[frank stirrup]

600

maybe 700

[hollow grail]

kek really

[frank stirrup]

Yee

[fossil cedar]

1080 should go for about 300ish

[frank stirrup]

Moar

[fossil cedar]

350

[frank stirrup]

500 ez

imo

[fossil cedar]

nooo

1080 ti is like 400-450

[hollow grail]

i want to make the poors cry with my price level

[frank stirrup]

look ebay

1080 is 600 ish

ti is moar

[fossil cedar]

gone up again 🙄

[frank stirrup]

yems

[fossil cedar]

granted thats ebay.ie but still

[frank stirrup]

uro

not doll hairs

[marsh kiln]

It hurts to see this

[frank stirrup]

the price?

send the list

[fossil cedar]

530 doll hairs

[frank stirrup]

Ill reduce the price

[frank stirrup]

american doll hairs as well

nice

[fossil cedar]

yeah ofc im not gonna get canadia doll hairs ew

[frank stirrup]

canadian dolls have bad hair for sure

[fossil cedar]

ye

[frank stirrup]

1060

[grand geyser]

My build cost me about that much, too. Thank goodness for those stimulus checks.

My build list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rbcYj2

[fossil cedar]

the price of your ssd makes me cry

and your mobo

[grand geyser]

They were costly, but worth it. I'm going to do some video editing with that machine, as soon as it mines me some cryptocurrency. I need to get some of my money back!

[fossil cedar]

yeah, i mean i can understand the ssd then but the mobo is way too expensive

ahh well

its good just too many monies

[grand geyser]

I plan on getting an SSD and a decent monitor for it soon. I hope Black Friday has some good sales.

[fossil cedar]

have you not already bought the ssd?

[grand geyser]

I did buy it. I'd just like a second.

I'm loving my Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black.

[fossil cedar]

i would get a sk hynix p31 or pilot e

[frank stirrup]

Thats a bad build

like really bad use of budget

coulda dropped it by 400$ without losing performance

[grand geyser]

I needed the USB ports on the motherboard for all of my USB devices.

[frank stirrup]

Maybe added perf actually with a better cooler

[fossil cedar]

200 mobo will get you that 🤷

[grand geyser]

The cooler perfoms wonderfully. I hit 5 GHz easily on single thread.

[frank stirrup]

The x570 elite wifi has 1 less usb and costs 170-180 lmao

[grand geyser]

I need FAST USB ports.

[frank stirrup]

coulda gone 200-300 mhz higher on a 360

[grand geyser]

USB 2.0 wasn't going to cut it.

[frank stirrup]

For ur mouse lmao

?

[grand geyser]

I chose an air cooler so I wouldn't have to worry about leaks.

[frank stirrup]

AIOs are sealed...

[grand geyser]

Seals can break.

[fossil cedar]

they the same speed lol

[fossil cedar]

8 year warranty tho

[frank stirrup]

not really...

[marble whale]

hey guys do u know of any cheap but good ram rgb?

[frank stirrup]

aios dont just leak

[grand geyser]

That warranty only gets you a new cooler. It doesn't replace your wet parts.

[frank stirrup]

ballistix rgb

The water they use in there is distilled

that means it doesnt conduct electricity

[marble whale]

thx

[frank stirrup]

also @grand geyser what all devices you using to need those speeds

[marble whale]

what RPMs r good for gaming HHDs

[frank stirrup]

I mean theres only really 2 rpms for consumer HDDs

but gaming HDDS arent a thing

its just HDD

7200 is faster tho

over 5400

[marble whale]

5400 good?

[frank stirrup]

thats the slowest HDD available to consumers

RPM wise

the only 2 options you really have are 5400 and 7200

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix rgb

[frank stirrup]

late pato

imagine being slower than me

[fossil cedar]

More likely for the pump to fail than leak tbh

[fossil cedar]

Soz

:(

[frank stirrup]

Hes probably trying to justify his purchases imo

[fossil cedar]

Probs

[frank stirrup]

whatever we say is gonna have no effect

you dont need 11 usb 3 ports for your devices realistically

unless you have multiple VR headsets you use at the same time

[marble whale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cPfnTW/mushkin-enhanced-helix-lt-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdht500gb-d8
good?

[fossil cedar]

It's okay, get the pilot e or mp34

[frank stirrup]

No

[marble whale]

paired with a 2TB hdd

[frank stirrup]

Helix is bad

[fossil cedar]

It's fine

[frank stirrup]

pilot e is good

[marble whale]

y? tho

[fossil cedar]

It's just faster, and like 2$ more

[frank stirrup]

^

[marble whale]

wd blue m.2?

500gbs

[fossil cedar]

Sn550 is good

Not the sata one

But the pilot e is cheaper

And sameish perf

[frank stirrup]

Its a sata ssd

as pato said the sn550 is what you want

[marble whale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zFK2FT/western-digital-blue-sn550-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds500g2b0c

[fossil cedar]

Get the pilot e, it's cheaper and same perf

[frank stirrup]

Pilot e is slightly better no?

[fossil cedar]

Ehh sn550 better rand, pilot better sustained

[marble whale]

800 hundo USD bugget

[fossil cedar]

Get mp34 or pilot e then

[fossil cedar]

Get mp34, it's 62$

Ohh actually

Sn550

Sorry it went up in price a few days ago

[fossil cedar]

Get this ye

[marble whale]

any cheap GPUs

[fossil cedar]

Nope

[marble whale]

cases?

[fossil cedar]

@marble whale get a prebuilt if you're in the us

You can then get a gpu

For your budget

[marble whale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PMFKHx/cougar-gemini-m-microatx-mini-tower-case-385tmb00001 ?

[sinful vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PTYvbpR3MA can the first method/solution 1 harm anything on my pc?

[fossil cedar]

@marble whale https://www.newegg.com/abs-computer-technologies-mage-e-ala106/p/N82E16883102696R?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0 if you're okay with open box get this

[fossil cedar]

No, solid front panel bad, p300a

[full atlas]

Should I buy this for 66$ open box?

[full atlas]

Neo air >

[fossil cedar]

It's decent yeah

But phanteks p300a just a p360a with no frontier fans basically

[marble whale]

Ryzen 5 good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NvCFf7/amd-ryzen-3-3300x-38-ghz-quad-core-processor-100-100000159box
lol

3.8ghz

[fossil cedar]

The model number matters more

[full atlas]

And neo air has the 2 front fans so ez

[fossil cedar]

You can't shop by ghz, get an i5 11400 and b560