#building-and-recc-chat

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frank stirrup
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nothing else

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cant click anything cant open task manager nothing

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full system hang

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same thing for safe mode

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I managed to get it up again

earnest olive
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performance of 3800c13 vs 3800c14 seems inconsistent

frank stirrup
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but massive windows corruption

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so decided to give it a once over

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that was the only oddity I found

earnest olive
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idk but proprietary mobos paired with proprietary nonstandard psus probably have different voltage rails

frank stirrup
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I can get one tomorrow

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Im thinking of building him a cheap rig if that pc dies

earnest olive
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I don't know anything about dell prebuilts so no

frank stirrup
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I see thanks anyway

little osprey
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Hey guys. New PC is running a dream. Question. I have got 5 intake fans, 1 rear exhaust and 3 fans hitting the top Aio rad. Is this ok or too much intake?

earnest olive
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it's fine

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if you have more intake than exhaust it will just create positive air pressure and exhaust naturally through holes in the case

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positive pressure has the benefit of reducing dust buildup

little osprey
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Nice on. Thanks for the answer bud. Appreciate it.

tranquil umbra
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yo

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what time is it in the us rn?

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
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Also depends where in the us lol

rich helm
gaunt moat
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Coolermaster NR200P White for the itx system and mt main rig is in a monetech something airflow id have to re find the box sorry for late responce i dont check pings much

stoic island
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nr200p is nice

gaunt moat
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But im pushing the limits of thermal comfort with it

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At least from what ive read and seen

queen dagger
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what would y’all say are the parts i should get next? there’s a chance i could get a decent sum of money soon from a very awesome family member. i’m not rlly sure. so far i have a case, mobo, cpu, and a SATA 1tb driver

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drive*

gaunt moat
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Is the drive an ssd?

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Cause if not ssd+ram could be the 2 possibilities or both depending on the sum of money

stoic island
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I mean, what exactly do you have?

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If you have an iGP, might as well grab a PSU and ram and just build it

queen dagger
queen dagger
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i would also need a cooler

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i’m on mobile i don’t wanna rebuild my pcpp 🐝

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bee

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also please ping me when you respond or i’ll prob forget NerdyEgg

stoic island
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annoying

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grab ram then

fossil cedar
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@queen dagger i would grab like 32gb 3600 ballistix ram, an arctic liquid ii 280mm/360mm or ek aio 360mm or lian li Galahad 360mm and then an enermax revolution df 850w power supply and wack your current 1650 in there for the moment

rancid lodge
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gonna repost this here cause people are talking in general rn

queen dagger
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it’s not confirmed that i’m getting any money

fossil cedar
queen dagger
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lol

fossil cedar
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By sadge?

rancid lodge
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no

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dunno why it sends you there

fossil cedar
rancid lodge
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same link yeah

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idk why it's sending you to that

fossil cedar
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Yeah lol same message by sadge

rancid lodge
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ok well

fossil cedar
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I keep getting this weird system lag, mostly happens when I fullscreen netflix or whatnot, but I just got it while playing PD2 with a friend. Basically the audio is always fine when this happens, just the system displays everything at like 0.01 FPS so I either have to wait to move my mouse minute by minute and use task force to kill whatever makes it "happen", or just restart. Anyone got any ideas? this?

rancid lodge
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yes

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lol

fossil cedar
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Ahh finally it worked like the 5th time

rancid lodge
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but yeah I was voice chatting with my friend when it happened and he came through loud and clear but he could only hear bits and pieces of me trying to explain that my computer was barfing up it's guts

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so idk if it's my 580 or what

fossil cedar
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@rancid lodge is this the Netflix windows app or through chrome because my gf just had that same problem with the windows netflix app

rancid lodge
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app

fossil cedar
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That's your problem

rancid lodge
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Yeah okay is it just netflix?

fossil cedar
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Something is bugged with the app, use chrome or something

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He

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Ye

rancid lodge
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I didn't open it though

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oh

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wait yeah it was open,

fossil cedar
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You said it was lol

rancid lodge
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my bet is that it automatically closed out of the show's tab

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"but I just got it while playing PD2 with a friend."

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but yeah

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it probably just timed out of the tab I was in and sent me back to the main hub

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that might've been it

fossil cedar
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Ohh, the app might have been open in the background, i would uninstall the app, restart, then use a browser instead and

rancid lodge
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yeah it was

fossil cedar
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See if it still happenz

rancid lodge
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But I hadn't had issues, probably was the app just closing out of the show I had paused

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seems to happen only on the main netflix page

fossil cedar
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Ye

rancid lodge
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okay yeah I didn't know if it was a common bug or what

fossil cedar
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Well my gf had the exact same netflix Windows app open

rancid lodge
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yeah

fossil cedar
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Legit yesterday

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Lol

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Idk if it's common but it's def a bug

rancid lodge
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yeah I'll prob use it in a browser from now on, I didn't think it could cause issues after it'd been opened

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but it seems it happens whenever you jump to that main page so

queen dagger
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@fossil cedar i meant my whole system not just my gpu oops flushcrushed

fossil cedar
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Step*

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Step

queen dagger
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right

fossil cedar
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Don't selll that 1650 atm til you get something better lol

queen dagger
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i wouldn’t sell it standalone

fossil cedar
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Fair

queen dagger
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but i might see if i can almost take out a loan with my grandfather and repay him when i have a job

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but i would be scared if he passed i would’ve scammed him

fossil cedar
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I getcha

queen dagger
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he’s doing great for he just recently needs something for his hip

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well see i guess

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i would have to live with that guilt for the rest of my life

fossil cedar
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Def

meager nacelle
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EVGA SuperNOVA 750 P2, 80+ PLATINUM 750W , Fully Modular

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Is that a good power supply?

desert gulch
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What price?

meager nacelle
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110$

desert gulch
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Yeah it's pretty good

meager nacelle
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Dope

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I guess some power supplies aren’t useful to miners and have been sitting on shelves so their price has gone down a lot

desert gulch
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this one is also a very good psu

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same tier as the supernova

meager nacelle
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Ah ok, thx man

desert gulch
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yeah np

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id just get whatever is cheaper when you decide to buy

icy kestrel
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@fossil cedar

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I’ve made a list

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Could you let me know what you think about it

timber dragon
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Ok so stupid question, how soon do I need to replace my CMOS battery if it's dying?

lyric thistle
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I mean you could put it off indefinitely and just not have your bios settings be remembered

timber dragon
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Oh. So I don't need to get a new battery?

lyric thistle
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Still don't know of my brother's old PC has a replacement in it

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Just get one at like a hardware store, match the model number on it to the new one

timber dragon
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Will any 2032 work?

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lyric thistle
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Yea

little osprey
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overpriced ram, overpriced motherboard, poor value aio, poor valued/airflow case, and overpriced psu

timber dragon
lyric thistle
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Ok

jade agate
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hey im looking to get the abs master gaming pc if anyone has it whats your thoughts

lyric thistle
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Lol there's gamer's nexus

jade agate
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whats that

desert gulch
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He's a YouTuber

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Who reviews stuff

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Watch this

icy kestrel
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Could you guys help me figure out what’s wrong with the compatibility

jade agate
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im just trying to figure out how long it takes to get shipped to me

crisp solstice
crisp solstice
zinc dune
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i have 3 lian li fans that keep switching colors time to time and i have not touched them i need help trying to control them

last fractal
crisp solstice
last fractal
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oh ok sorry

vague oracle
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I just found out what my “friend” who backed out on the PC I was selling him bought

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Keep in mind the PC I would’ve sold him had an i7 6700k/RX 480 8Gb

lavish chasm
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“Friend”

vague oracle
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He backed out on the deal literally 5 minutes before he was supposed to pick it up

lavish chasm
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Does your build have rgb

lyric thistle
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Lemme guess he got an i7-970 and a GT 710

vague oracle
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He ended up buying one of those ibuypower Amazon PCs with a GT710

lyric thistle
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Lol

vague oracle
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He paid $900

lyric thistle
vague oracle
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Yep

lavish chasm
vague oracle
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He was upgrading from a laptop with Vega 3 graphics lmao

lyric thistle
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"upgrading"

vague oracle
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Yep

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And now I got to deal with finding a buyer in Craigslist or Facebook marketplace

lyric thistle
earnest olive
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your friend really chose that over yours?

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lmao

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"710 bigger number than 480"

lyric thistle
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Large noggin

vague oracle
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🤓

stable lark
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Well pretty sure my PC is now dead from trying to boot from an m.2

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I tried booting using nvme and now I can't enter bios or even get a display. Any idea what I managed to break. The quick led diagnosed just shows led

cunning knoll
cobalt path
stable lark
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Not that I think would cause any issues. Nothing was disconnected or connected. Changed the mode to nvme and now I can't even get a display from the motherboard or graphics card

cobalt path
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you changed a bios setting?

stable lark
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Yeah changed from CMA to nvme to see if it would boot from my m.2 or even select it as a bootable device option

cobalt path
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and windows is installed on that device?

stable lark
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It's installed on my 1tb HDD and my m.2 supposedly

cobalt path
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clear cmos will reset your bios configuration. might be a place to start. go back to your hdd to boot. make sure your nvme is cleared and start fresh with a USB boot and a clean install to you nvme

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if your boot device and windows install is the problem

stable lark
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I tried clearing CMOS and I still can't get any display. At the current moment my display is gone and my motherboard displays the boot led. How would I USB boot the computer?

cobalt path
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ooof

stable lark
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Yeah hoping motherboard didn't stroke out on its second day

cobalt path
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if you cant boot into your bios at least something else is going on. i meant basically doing a clean install of windows from a usb to your nvme drive

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start over more or less

stable lark
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How big of a USB would I need to install windows? I don't know if I could even boot off the USB due to not reaching the bios point

lyric thistle
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8GB usually

cobalt path
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yeah if you cant even get into your bios something else is going on

lyric thistle
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Removing the cmos battery should reset the bios settings if that could've caused it to not boot

stable lark
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I can't get into bios. Had the battery out for about 20 or 30 minutes with computer unplugged and issue persisted

cobalt path
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resetting cmos is the only trick i have up my sleeve for this type of thing lol if that didnt work its going over my head

stable lark
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I'm still semi new to computers so this is way over my head

cobalt path
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for sh*ts and giggles did you try plugging your monitor into your motherboard in case its trying to boot off integrated graphics?

lyric thistle
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To add onto that, do you have a CPU with an integrated GPU

cobalt path
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lol thanks that would be helpful also

stable lark
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I have a Ryzen 9 5900x and a MSI mpg x570 motherboard

cobalt path
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so thats a no to integrated graphics

lyric thistle
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Should have a dedicated GPU

stable lark
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I have a gtx1060 6gb that was working until I tried nvme

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I'm getting no signal from either display port

desert gulch
cobalt path
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what sata port is your hdd plugged into

desert gulch
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sn750 has bad random mixed io

cunning knoll
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what do you record?

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recommend

desert gulch
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id get a 1tb p31 and then get rid of hdd

stable lark
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The boot sata is in slot 1. The storage is in data 2

desert gulch
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also id change psu

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that one is kinda meh

cobalt path
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when you plug in your nvme it will occupy a sata port.

stable lark
cobalt path
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my MSI board, the main m.2 port occupies sata channel 2

stable lark
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I'll try removing my ssd to see if it will at least enter bios

cobalt path
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unplug it and try to boot off your hdd

stable lark
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M.2 is out powering on now

cobalt path
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make sure you can get back in 😬 then if it were me, id get a windows install usb drive set up. plug your nvme into slot one with nothing on it. unplug your hdd altogether and do a clean install of windows to your nvme

cunning knoll
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@desert gulch what would be a better psu?

stable lark
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Yeah it won't show display still. I'll remove what I can to get to slot one and disconnect my HDD drives. The m.2 is supposed to have stuff on it so hopefully it won't be an issue

cobalt path
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the second m.2 slot on my board occupies SATA 5 and 6

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MSI gaming Z490

cobalt path
stable lark
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I got my m.2 drive from Newegg it's a Samsung 970. I used the Samsung data transfer to copy my boot drive to the m.2. It's supposed to have my boot information on it now but I have no way of checking now

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Also where do I get a fresh install of windows as

cobalt path
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sounds like something didnt go according to plan in the transfer

stable lark
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Yeah that's what I was thinking

cobalt path
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you have to download the windows installer online. you would need a functioning computer and a USB thumb drive no larger than 32 gb

stable lark
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I have a functioning laptop lol

cobalt path
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search for "create windows installation media"

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it will take you to microsoft and has a step by step. basically install the media onto a clean usb. plug in to your pc on start up to boot off the usb and it will install windows to your chosen drive.

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you may have corrupt files on your existing drives though. im not sure it will help your situation

stable lark
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If need be I can clean the drives. There's nothing I can't replace in the drives

cobalt path
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scary that you cant even get a bios boot id be having a panic attack lol

lyric thistle
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Maybe you got some mice hiding in your displayport

cobalt path
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if im not mistaken you should be able to get a bios boot with no internal drives connected.

stable lark
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It worked one minute then quit the next

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Well I might have to buy windows 10 again as I don't know if I have the key still

lyric thistle
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Don't need a key to use windows

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Yet

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😭

cunning knoll
lyric thistle
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Just buy a key off eBay later once you've got things sorted if the key didn't persist

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5 bucks

little osprey
cunning knoll
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aoi? @little osprey

lyric thistle
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Aio water cooler

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All in one

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Just a typo thinkies

cunning knoll
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oh ok i think i should be good

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thanks

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actually what would i get instead of the water cooler to save money

lyric thistle
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Air cooling

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Big heatsink

cunning knoll
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do you think that additional fan will be worth it

cedar linden
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For the case?

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Or air cooler

cunning knoll
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the 120 mm one for the case

cedar linden
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Hmm

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Does ur case already have fans

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Cuz if so

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I personally would go for like a hard drive for more storage

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Ive nearly used my 2 tb of space so idk if ur 1 tb will be enough

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Up to u tho

cunning knoll
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yeah it has two in the front one in back

vague oracle
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Personally I wouldn’t go for a Lancool 205 mostly because I find the 200mm fans to be a gimmick

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Most of the airflow added by the 200mm is being blocked by the sides of the mounting so the large size is redundant

cedar linden
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Get like a Lian Li mesh C or smth

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Idk

vague oracle
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Wait nvm I’m thinking of the Lancool 215

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But the solid panel still isn’t really that good

cunning knoll
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so what do you recommend instead

visual tundra
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ay what are some good fans for my pc

vague oracle
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The P400A is really good

vague oracle
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4000d Airflow is another solid case

lyric thistle
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Arctic p 🤝

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All day any day

vague oracle
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Love Arctic fans

visual tundra
vague oracle
visual tundra
vague oracle
cedar linden
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Yea lets go i have arctic fans too

vague oracle
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ARGB and normal RGB

cedar linden
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The F version tho

vague oracle
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I currently use the RGB ones on my AIO

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Personally not a huge fan of the F12s

cedar linden
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Also

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If u rlly want an aio

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Go for msi or smth

stable lark
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Alec would you happen to know of a RGB 230mm fan lol

cedar linden
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Better moneys worth

vague oracle
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Uhhh no

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Definitely not

cedar linden
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not the LCD screen ones

lyric thistle
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F series is probably not great but okay for exhaust

vague oracle
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Lian Li Galahad, Arctic Freezer II, or the EK one

stable lark
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Lol figured my case is a slight odittey

vague oracle
cedar linden
frank stirrup
cedar linden
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sry for the long link

frank stirrup
vague oracle
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MSI AIOs are bad

visual tundra
# vague oracle Lian Li Galahad, Arctic Freezer II, or the EK one

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-PWM-RGB-Pack/dp/B08Y8N5J89/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=arctic+p12+led&qid=1625290616&s=mobile-apps&sr=1-3

Amazon.com: ARCTIC P12 PWM PST A-RGB 0dB (3 Pack) - 120 mm PWM case...

Buy ARCTIC P12 PWM PST A-RGB 0dB (3 Pack) - 120 mm PWM case Fan Optimized for Static Pressure, case Fan, semi-Passive: 0-2000 RPM, 5V 3 pin ARGB LED, Single Fan - Black: Everything Else - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

vague oracle
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That’s the link I sent you lol

frank stirrup
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Arctic freezer ii or lian li galahad or ek aio

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Not msi

cedar linden
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ok

frank stirrup
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And only aios above 240mm are worth buying

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Smaller than that and ud rather get an air cooler

visual tundra
vague oracle
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Yeah

visual tundra
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oh ok thank you

vague oracle
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No problem

vague oracle
visual tundra
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_mobile-apps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&adId=A06638883SO9JT0A0M64H&url=%2FID-COOLING-XF-12025-ARGB-TRIO-Management-Addressable-Connector%2Fdp%2FB08PYPQ8SB%2Fref%3Dsr_1_2_sspa%3Fdchild%3D1%26keywords%3Darctic%2Bp12%2Bled%26qid%3D1625290616%26s%3Dmobile-apps%26sr%3D1-2-spons%26psc%3D1&qualifier=1625290616&id=6750032951526607&widgetName=sp_atf

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would those fasn be good also??

frank stirrup
cedar linden
frank stirrup
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Corsair rads are not bad

cedar linden
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though i'll hav eto check

stable lark
cedar linden
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are u plugging into the front io ports?

frank stirrup
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Like the activation code?

stable lark
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Yep. Gonna have to get a new windows key

cedar linden
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i thjink he means the download

vague oracle
frank stirrup
cedar linden
visual tundra
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/slredirect/picassoRedirect.html/ref=pa_sp_atf_mobile-apps_sr_pg1_1?ie=UTF8&adId=A06638883SO9JT0A0M64H&url=%2FID-COOLING-XF-12025-ARGB-TRIO-Management-Addressable-Connector%2Fdp%2FB08PYPQ8SB%2Fref%3Dsr_1_2_sspa%3Fdchild%3D1%26keywords%3Darctic%2Bp12%2Bled%26qid%3D1625290616%26s%3Dmobile-apps%26sr%3D1-2-spons%26psc%3D1&qualifier=1625290616&id=6750032951526607&widgetName=sp_atf

Amazon.com: ID-COOLING XF-12025-ARGB-TRIO 3 Pack Case Fan 120mm Cab...

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frank stirrup
cedar linden
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or it's just newegg poo poo pricing

visual tundra
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would those fans also work ???

cedar linden
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yea as long as they're the right size

frank stirrup
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Shorten the links mate

vague oracle
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Personally I’d spend the extra $5-10 for the Arctic fans

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But they’d also do the trick

visual tundra
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oh ok thank yuo

frank stirrup
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P12s are amazing

stable lark
frank stirrup
stable lark
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I put the media installer on a USB because my HDD freaked out and doesn't work

frank stirrup
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Or downloaded it from some otger site?

frank stirrup
stable lark
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Microsoft. It's for windows 10

frank stirrup
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So you downloaded the windows app thing that made the usb?

stable lark
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Yep

frank stirrup
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Just checking because thats a strange error

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Ok you can just say you dont have a key and go on ahead

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Put in the key after install

stable lark
vague oracle
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Not even in small text?

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There should be one

stable lark
frank stirrup
stable lark
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Jesus it was just instealled too

vague oracle
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I’d just try reinstalling

frank stirrup
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There shouldn’t be an unattend answer file

vague oracle
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With a new installation media

frank stirrup
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Yep make a new install media

vague oracle
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Try unplugging any other drives that you aren’t installing windows to

frank stirrup
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The answer file is corrupted

stable lark
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I'm gonna try again tomorrow. I only have 1 drive installed at the moment. I give up for the night I got work in 5 hours and haven't slept yet

vague oracle
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Ahh ok

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Sometimes I had problems with it installing when I had other drives plugged in but that will do nothing is answer file is corrupted

void lantern
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what do u guys think

static ravine
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yea I should have probs put more realistic pricing

scarlet rampart
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my budget is $1000

fading oyster
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pretty heat 🙏

cedar linden
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i think u need more storage

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or u could uninstall stuff

scarlet rampart
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what do you mean?

cedar linden
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500 gigs isn't a lot

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i have 2 terabytes

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and ive used like 1.8 tb already

scarlet rampart
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is everything else good tho?

cedar linden
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lemme see

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im not an exper tho

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so don't quote me on anything i say

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yea it looks fine

scarlet rampart
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ight thanks bro

cedar linden
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np

severe axle
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se-224

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and that m.2 is sata, helix l should be fine

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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I made a new list

fossil cedar
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@icy kestrel do you want to overclock and what do you want to do with the pc again btw?

icy kestrel
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No overclock and run games

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Good

fossil cedar
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The aio is still meh, corsari ram, meh, ssd is fine but meh, the case is still an oven and the power supply is awful

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Okey hold on then

icy kestrel
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My budgets 1850

fossil cedar
jade scarab
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I’m gonna buy the 5600x instead of the 3700x

fossil cedar
jade scarab
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Bruh they are the same price

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Lol

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@fossil cedar

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Can’t believe it’s the same price isn’t AMD meant for Gaming

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
jade scarab
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I checked benchmarks and the 5600x KILLS the 3700x on 1080p display @fossil cedar

fossil cedar
jade scarab
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I didn’t know that I am shocked I thought it was better as it’s more expensive and both of my friends have it

fossil cedar
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The 3700x was decent when it came out but it's old now

lyric thistle
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It would shred anything from before it still xd

icy kestrel
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@fossil cedar

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I switched some what do you think

fossil cedar
# icy kestrel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hxcLQD

That's an overclocking cpu on a non overclock motherboard, that cpu also is equal to /loses in gaming compared to the i5 11400, corsair ram is still a big fat meh, ssd is also meh, that case is also an oven

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Get this

icy kestrel
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Is this better

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@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
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@icy kestrel , not really the aio is bad, and the case is finneeee but it's meh

icy kestrel
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@fossil cedar Is the amd that much better

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And whys the compatibility saying warning

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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@fossil cedar How much FPS do you think it’ll run valorant and warzone

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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Woah 500??

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Do you think the gpu I’m getting is worth it for $878

stoic island
#

Uh that estimate is like way off for warzone

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I don't think any PC can run warzone at 500/600fps at 1080p with decent settings

icy kestrel
#

I’m pretty sure he meant val

robust lake
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You will get around 170 fps on warzone 1080p

stoic island
#

Even val it still seems off

robust lake
#

Around 120 on 1440p

icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar I’m gonna take ur suggestion and stick with the 4000D

robust lake
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All max no dlss no rt

stoic island
#

I'd predict something closer to 200+ tbh

robust lake
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With dlss you can get around 200 on 1080p probably

icy kestrel
#

On what

stoic island
#

Val

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200-300

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Either way, plenty of frames

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
stoic island
#

Ye I'd say something more like 200-300 to be more realistic in val, max settings ofc

fossil cedar
stoic island
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I don't really like comparing with anything but max settings so yea

fossil cedar
#

Fair

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

Coming from playing lots of siege, people usually have their own edited settings, not all low

fossil cedar
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Fair

stoic island
#

For example, texture high, shadows low, etc.

fossil cedar
#

I mean i play bitta siege but mainly overwatch and csgo

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I see

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I all the fps

cunning knoll
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is the corsair vengeance and crucial ballistix that big of a diff?

stoic island
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When you start mixing settings, easier just compare at max settings

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

For OC potential, ballistic slaps vegenace out of the park

fossil cedar
#

Ballistix is also cheaper

stoic island
#

Mmm

fossil cedar
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Well 1:1

stoic island
#

Corsair ram is weird

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Dies all over the place

fossil cedar
#

Ye

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Ballistix is always gonna work very nicely basically

cunning knoll
#

ok thanks

stoic island
#

Ballistix is like 50/50 rev e or rev b

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Vegenace is one die here, one die there, one die over there, another die there...

cunning knoll
#

and what are your thoughts on the adata xpg sx8200 pro

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1tb

stoic island
#

Adata screwed that drive over

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They switched the nand and controller like 6 times now

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If you want performance, SK Hynix P31 gold

fossil cedar
stoic island
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If you just want a good drive, pilot e.

frank stirrup
#

hi pato

fossil cedar
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Or an sn550 on the budget

frank stirrup
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SN550 nice

fossil cedar
stoic island
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Sn550 1tb price sad

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It's like 105$ vs 110$

fossil cedar
#

Hi rawr

frank stirrup
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I saw a real world 2gbps transfer on my sn550 teh other day

stoic island
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And pilot e does have a lot more seq

fossil cedar
stoic island
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I say it's a decent tradeoff

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Not that much less rand, a lot more seq for when you need that.

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Anyways, mp33 is where it's at for budget drives when it's 90$ for 1tb

fossil cedar
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Fair

frank stirrup
#

the p31 gold slaps at a little higher price

fossil cedar
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Ehhh it do be like an extra 28$ or so over the sn550

frank stirrup
#

yee

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and its worth every dollar

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great drive

fossil cedar
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Only in top end systems imo

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But I'm willing to skimp the drive a bit to get better cooler etc

frank stirrup
#

fair

fossil cedar
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Idm waiting the extra 30 seconds when downloading a game or something lol

stoic island
#

Meh, wifi is way more likely to be the bottleneck there

fossil cedar
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Exactly lol

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Even most peoples ethernet

icy kestrel
fossil cedar
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No

icy kestrel
#

The list you gave me was over budget so I stuck with the i5

fossil cedar
#

It was on budget?

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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It was a 100 over

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
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oh yep its over budget

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@fossil cedar

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git gud

icy kestrel
#

1775 I had to change it cause of some money I owed

fossil cedar
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Lol

icy kestrel
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Sorry

fossil cedar
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It's fine lol but i aint a mind reader lemme fix you a 1775 list

icy kestrel
#

Ok thank you

frank stirrup
#

there

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

pato

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look mine

fossil cedar
#

I did

frank stirrup
#

it perform gooder

fossil cedar
#

It do be a bit but i have a feeling they wanted white rgb ram and possibly more storage or rgb aio

frank stirrup
#

ehhh

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I prefer perf over looks

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except for my prismatics

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even if those perform bad I love how disgustingly RGB they are

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

LOOK AT THEM

fossil cedar
#

🤮

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Xd

frank stirrup
#

LOOK AT HOW DISGUSTINGLY BEAUTIFUL THEY ARE

fossil cedar
#

Lmao

icy kestrel
fossil cedar
icy kestrel
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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get hdd

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500gb fine till then

fossil cedar
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Ik I'm messing lol

frank stirrup
#

bad

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

my storage

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I have a 3tb external not connected rn

icy kestrel
frank stirrup
#

169 for that cooler is a massive ripoff

icy kestrel
#

?

frank stirrup
#

yep thats a good cooler

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is a 280mm available?

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lemme check

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take a look

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smaller ssd but more storage total

icy kestrel
#

I like this cooler more

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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And now I can add more storage

fossil cedar
#

That's not very good cooler

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
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2.5tb storage

fossil cedar
#

@icy kestrel the only aio coolers i can whole heartedly recommend are the arctic liquid ii 240mm/280mm/360mm or the ek aio or the lian li galahad

frank stirrup
#

same

icy kestrel
#

I’ll stick to what you said and add the more storage rawr suggested

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
#

Honestly I don’t need 2.5 tb because the only games I’ll be downloading are warzone valorant Minecraft fortnite and some other small games

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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Ok

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Wdym I would need to front mount

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@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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I’m having a hard time tryna process where the front is since the front is glass

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You mean like this?

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@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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Ok

fossil cedar
#

The front isn't glass btw

stoic island
#

Cases usually have glass side panels

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That's what we call the side

fossil cedar
#

^

icy kestrel
#

Yeah I figured that out

stoic island
#

The front is where you generally have your air intake

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Therefore glass front panel defeats half the purpose of front intake

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
#

The compatibility notes say the c port won’t work

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
#

U sure?

fossil cedar
#

Unless you really want the type c port to work which we can do just needa change the motherboard

icy kestrel
#

What does the c port do

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
icy kestrel
#

Oh

fossil cedar
#

One of those

icy kestrel
#

Ig it’s ok if it doesn’t work

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How much would it be to change the mobo if I want it to work

fossil cedar
#

Lemme see

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I mean do you even have a usb c cable tho?

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Because it's not really that popular outside of charging

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Phones and laptops

stoic island
#

Also keep on mind some boards have USB c on rear io and just not have the internal header

fossil cedar
#

@icy kestrel it's an extra 30$ but means you have a micro atx board, there's nothing wrong with that just some people don't like the look of a smaller motherboard in an atx case

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Atx= regular desktop pc size btw

icy kestrel
#

Yeah it’s ok I’ll just stick to the first list

fossil cedar
#

Yeah I'd do that too

icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar is says the ssd sold out

frank stirrup
icy kestrel
icy kestrel
frank stirrup
#

then try amazon

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or newegg

stoic island
#

Or go pilot e

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Or mp33

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Or p31

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Etc

icy kestrel
#

Amazon has it for 19 dollars more

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New eggs sold out

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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Is this ok

frank stirrup
#

yes

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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lmao

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

I was wondering when mushkin pilot became m.2 sata

icy kestrel
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
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nvme and sata are the interfaces

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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I put sata and he put nvme

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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Ok

fossil cedar
#

Woops nvm

stoic island
#

Pcie 3.0 NVMe drives tend to do around 3000MB/s read write seq, sata drives tend to do around 500MB/s read write seq max

fossil cedar
#

This id what you want

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
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Ok

#

It took me a 2 weeks from going back n fourth from choosing between pre built or diy and then once I chose diy it took me a week to find the parts

fossil cedar
#

Fair lol

icy kestrel
#

How much did you guys spend on ur builds

stoic island
#

Things are easier with diy when you can chase down the best parts for price to perf >:D

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Instead of having to choose between two subpar configs

icy kestrel
#

The omen I found was pretty good

frank stirrup
#

over time

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on my whole setup

stoic island
#

Generally, prebuilts have weird configs, and when they're not, they're way overpriced :p

icy kestrel
#

Ryzen 7 with a 3060 ti for 1600

stoic island
#

Yea...

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Pretty sure there was an ABS prebuilt fairly recently with a 10400 or 11400 and 3060ti for 1400$

icy kestrel
#

That’s the one I was looking at

stoic island
#

About a week ago, this was in stock.

Screenshot_20210703-064258.png
icy kestrel
#

It’s sold out now?

stoic island
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Ofc

icy kestrel
#

Lol

stoic island
#

But prebuilts wacky

jade scarab
#

Is this good

#

Crucial P2 CT500P2SSD8 500 GB Internal SSD, Up to 2400 MB/s (3D NAND, NVMe, PCIe, M.2), Black

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@fossil cedar

stoic island
#

For doing what

jade scarab
#

For downloading windows

stoic island
#

P2 is P2, it's a drive, don't expect too much from it, but it'll work fine

worthy zodiac
#

yo my relative wants me to build his pc nd kinda confused on what mobo to pick, he had r9 5900x already should we go for rog strix b550 f or asus tuf x570 (he wants asus mobo doe)
dark hero would be nice but kinda expensive

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welp

fossil cedar
jade scarab
fossil cedar
#

Np

stoic island
#

Pretty sure p2 was like 45$ or something

#

But yea

fossil cedar
#

@jade scarab just use the list i have you yesterday

jade scarab
#

Yh its 45

worthy zodiac
#

asrock b550/x570 ripdtide is comin should I wait

jade scarab
#

Alright I’ll look

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

Don't remeber

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

Yh I have it saved somewhere

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

@worthy zodiac could just go b550-f, nothing wrong with it, and it's unlikely you have any need for the extra features on the more expensive boards

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Ye

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The price gap is usually wider for US

frank stirrup
worthy zodiac
fossil cedar
stoic island
#

Ya

jade scarab
#

Pato is good at choosing parts

fossil cedar
#

:)

worthy zodiac
frank stirrup
#

Pato is the resident pcpp expert

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When techie for pato

worthy zodiac
#

a bit old mobo but I'll think abt it

icy kestrel
stoic island
#

Mhm, that's just how it is now

frank stirrup
stoic island
#

Good deals go out of stock in a matter of minutes

worthy zodiac
stoic island
#

B550-f isn't really old

frank stirrup
worthy zodiac
#

a year old

jade scarab
frank stirrup
#

its the newest amd mobo chipset

stoic island
#

@jade scarab stock on 5600x isn't exactly great

frank stirrup
#

if b550 is old, the other ones are ancient

stoic island
#

At least spend for a 30$ air cooler

worthy zodiac
#

no b550s ready for 5000 series cpus?

frank stirrup
#

yes

jade scarab
#

Amd stock cooler is good no

frank stirrup
#

they are

worthy zodiac
#

what models

stoic island
#

Pretty sure b550 unify and unify x are

worthy zodiac
#

don't want a hassle of updating firmware

frank stirrup
stoic island
#

Those are pretty recent

worthy zodiac
#

dang that sucks

stoic island
fossil cedar
worthy zodiac
#

ok best bet would be just update on the store 1st

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if its ok

stoic island
#

Consistently 95c for 5600x on stock cooler

icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar @frank stirrup Do you think the gpu I’m getting is worth it for $878

fossil cedar
jade scarab
stoic island
#

@worthy zodiac it's really easy to update the bios with a board with flashback, which I would only really recommend boards with flashback at the moment

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
jade scarab
#

Is it easy to install Air coolers

worthy zodiac
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

You just follow the manual, takes like 10 minutes max

stoic island
worthy zodiac
#

it feels like I have a phobia abt it

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"what if it could go wrong, then you can't claim your warranty"

icy kestrel
frank stirrup
stoic island
#

Pretty sure that can't void your warranty

worthy zodiac
#

but anyways thanks @stoic island appreciated it, rog b550 it is

stoic island
#

Do keep in mind if you need wifi version or not wifi version

worthy zodiac
#

nah cables all day baby

frank stirrup
stoic island
#

For 3070, I say 800 is a bit more reasonable nowadays considering normal aib pricing lel

icy kestrel
#

@frank stirrup Would 600 be good for a 3060?

frank stirrup
#

no

stoic island
#

3060 retails at around 400$

worthy zodiac
#

whats the diff between the e

jade scarab
#

Pato

stoic island
#

For specifics, just check this sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

Google Docs
X570/X470/X370/B550/B450/B350/A520/A320 Motherboards (AM4-socket fo...

AM4 MB Comparison @2017-2021 raisonjohn b.

AM4-socket MOTHERBOARD COMPARISON,SUBJECTIVE TIERS:,HOW TO SORT/FILTER MOTHERBOARDS YOU ONLY NEED TO COMPARE:
| Step 1: Select entire Row 11 by clicking "11" at left side of your screen.
| Step 2: Click the Filter Icon at the above toolbar, just beside ...

worthy zodiac
#

okok tytyt

jade scarab
#

My friend is saying that the amd stock should be gone

#

Fine

#

@fossil cedar

frank stirrup
jade scarab
#

Is installing that Air cooler as easy as installing the Stock Amd one

fossil cedar
stoic island
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

the stock cooler is barely enough for a 3600x... let alone a 5600x

jade scarab
#

Yeah is installing that Fuma Syth thing easy

stoic island
#

Amd stock is 'fine' for CPUs, not good for GPUs still

#

I mean, how hard can a few screws be :p

fossil cedar
worthy zodiac
#

should I get the E

stoic island
#

Unless some specific feature catches your eye, b550-f should do fine

jade scarab
#

Alright then

icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar @frank stirrup I found a build on offer up I think is good

frank stirrup
#

also 550W for those parts is poopy

fossil cedar
#

It's 10600k but still bad

#

Gammaxx 400 on a k processor Cringe

stoic island
#

I mean, MSI is good about having m.2_1 usable with 10th gen chips on b560

fossil cedar
#

550w psu :/

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
#

Oven case

#

Also team unspecified ssd

stoic island
#

But that PC really depends on price

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
#

It’s 1600

jade scarab
#

@sage axleo

fossil cedar
#

If that's like 1200/1300 i would forgive

stoic island
#

Hell no

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

The 5600x comes with the wraith cooler in it

frank stirrup
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

thats the cooler they gave with the ryzen 3 last year

stoic island
#

Heck, Newegg had a 1250$ 11400+3060 prebuilt not long ago

frank stirrup
#

so if ur 5600x outputs as much heat as a 3300x then sure its fine

#

lmao

stoic island
icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar @frank stirrup ?

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
fossil cedar
#

So

#

You can add more

stoic island
#

That's 300$ cheaper

fossil cedar
#

Really easy

jade scarab
#

All this hassle I might aswell just get a 3700x and use the stock cooolee

#

Cooler

stoic island
#

You can get a 2tb SSD and a 4tb hdd for 300$

jade scarab
#

Cause an AIO won’t fit my case

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And

#

I don’t know how to install a complicated fan

#

Thing

fossil cedar
stoic island
jade scarab
#

You have to keep in mind it’s my first time ever building a pc

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar should I get it instead of my built?

stoic island
#

Stock cooler is still an air cooler

#

Hell, stock cooler is more difficult to install imo

#

The clips are annoying

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

@fossil cedar would that Wraith fam fit in the Corsair Icue 220t RGB AIRFLOW case

fossil cedar
#

@stoic island theres no clips, you take out the black clips and it just screws to the backplate

jade scarab
#

Cause that case is small

stoic island
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
stoic island
#

Spire doesn't have clips iirc, but prism does

#

And they are annoying

icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar should I get it instead of my built?

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

3070..?

#

The offerup build also had a 3060

jade scarab
#

@fossil cedar does an AIO fit in the case

#

If anything I’ll put in an AIO instead looks cleaner

stoic island
#

Yes

#

220t airflow fits aios

fossil cedar
#

Lemme get it

stoic island
#

Up to 240mm top

fossil cedar
icy kestrel
#

@fossil cedar @stoic island how much FPS you think it’ll run valorant or warzone

stoic island
#

It'll be variable, probably 150+ on val, 100+ on warzone

#

Theres always dlss tho

jade scarab
#

Bro @fossil cedar

#

You can only fit one AIO fan on the top

stoic island
#

What

#

Corsair literally says you can mount a 240mm radiator top

obsidian wigeon
#

^

jade scarab
#

Depends on your ram size

#

Cause the Fam gets in the way

#

Depends on how tall it is

obsidian wigeon
#

uh..

#

Height of the stick doesn't matter

jade scarab
#

Does

obsidian wigeon
#

No

#

It's more its length

jade scarab
#

For the Icue 220t RGB airflow

stoic island
#

It's simple

#

If you don't get stupid ram, it'll work fine

jade scarab
#

If ot don’t fit I’ll put at front it’s fine

stoic island
#

It's more the ram's fault when they make it too wide

#

:p

obsidian wigeon
#

Just listen to mr1111 lol

jade scarab
#

I got Corsair VENGANCE LPX 16GB

obsidian wigeon
#

That shouldn't be a problem

stoic island
#

Which shouldn't be too wide

#

It's stupid vegenace rgb that's too wide

obsidian wigeon
#

Besides 120mm AIO doesn't make sense over air

jade scarab
#

No I didn’t get the RGB one

#

I got the normal one

stoic island
#

Exactly

obsidian wigeon
#

Unless you use tiny case

jade scarab
#

Nah the case is bog

#

Big

#

It’s medium

obsidian wigeon
#

I'm aware :p

#

But 240mm AIO should fit on top just fine for you

jade scarab
#

Alright

frank stirrup
jade scarab
#

MSI MPG A650GF UK PSU '650W, 80 Plus Gold certified, Fully Modul

#

This is good right

#

Better than Corsair PSU ?

#

Is Msi power supplies better than Corsairs

#

@fossil cedar

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

How about the psu

fossil cedar
jade scarab
#

You sure it’s safe cause I looked at the review and they said it popped

#

And how it doesn’t support am4 motherboards

#

Some am4 motherboards

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

@jade scarab i wouldn't recommend anything that is not good

jade scarab
#

Lol I’m getting the psu last cause it’s the most dodgy thing

#

I have never seen or tried it before

#

So if it don’t work I can return it

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

A-GF is built off of CWT GPU, same platform as RMx lel

fossil cedar
#

^

fossil cedar
jagged ember
#

why is the psu the most dodgy thing?

jade scarab
#

Idk

#

@fossil cedar

#

Or anyone

#

GIGABYTE B550M AORUS ELITE mATX Motherboard for AMD AM4 CPUs

#

Does it support 5000 series

stoic island
frank stirrup
#

all b550 boards support 5000 series cpu

#

bios flash might be needed

#

but most probably even that isnt

jade scarab
#

What’s a bios flash

frank stirrup
#

bios update

jade scarab
#

@frank stirrup

#

Bios update for what

frank stirrup
#

read what i already said

#

it will answer that

jade scarab
#

Alright

#

You said you might need it

#

Is MSI PSU better than EVGA

#

@frank stirrup

#

@stoic island

frank stirrup
jade scarab
#

In general

jade scarab
#

Wich ones better

frank stirrup
#

thats the only answer ur gonna get from people on here

jade scarab
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Pls tell me I need help

fossil cedar
jade scarab
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It’s important

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Please help me man

fossil cedar
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BRO I PUT THE BEST PARTS IN YOUR LIST

lyric thistle
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Even I need help reading the psu tier list

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It's not easy 😭

stoic island
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@lyric thistle higher tier = better

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Colors and meanings are listed at the start

lyric thistle
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Lmfao

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Yea

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It's the models that are the hard part

stoic island
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The PSU tier list explanation/source sheet is where it actually gets hard :p

lyric thistle
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It takes me longer than it should to figure out where a psu I find on the market fits in on the list

stoic island
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Lol

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Control f

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It's also usually pretty simple imo

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"EVGA G3", I just search for g3

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Yaknow

lyric thistle
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Yea

stoic island
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Its when you get to EVGA G+ that's a bit weirder

fossil cedar
stoic island
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But not hard to find when you know what you're looking for

stoic island
lyric thistle
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Certain segotep models have two or more names

fossil cedar
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Ohh that's fair yeah

stoic island
lyric thistle
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Went down a rabbit hole to find gpg I think

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Lol

stoic island
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Anyways

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It's something you get more familiar with and you just understand the naming schemes

lyric thistle
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Never 😎

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(he says probably gradually understanding it better bit by bit)