#building-and-recc-chat

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earnest olive
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makes my life a lot easier

stoic island
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nice

earnest olive
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can't return the case but I can return the mobo

cursive walrus
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so um i finished my build a few days ago

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but

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now it cant run

earnest olive
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also this setup is so scuffed rn

cursive walrus
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like i cant alt f4 it to power down

earnest olive
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I was too lazy to unscrew the old cooler

cursive walrus
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and its not running

earnest olive
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so I just put it to the side

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y'all wanna see how scuffed

stoic island
earnest olive
stoic island
earnest olive
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that aio on the top is not connected to anything

stoic island
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yea

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you just leave it in

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laziness is key

cursive walrus
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nothing else worked

stoic island
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shutdown through windows

cursive walrus
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cant

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it literally wont

stoic island
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that's the only way it's meant to do so in software

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not alt f4

earnest olive
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ahh I'm so happy

cursive walrus
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not even

stoic island
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type shutdown /f into an admin cmd

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or shutdown /p /f

cursive walrus
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where do i open admin cmd

muted patio
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windows search - CMD - right click run as admin

stoic island
cursive walrus
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k

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i will try later

hardy elbow
stoic island
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what's it for?

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11700k is interesting to say the least, it's... wacky

hardy elbow
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It's for gaming/ video editing

stoic island
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Are you buying full price windows key.....?

hardy elbow
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Yeah... Should i not?

stoic island
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no...

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either resold key, or just don't activate it, and you can get rid of watermark and such through other methods

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I'd get a bigger SSD at the least

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I would personally just go 11500, saves a buck for later for a GPU later, don't need overclocking capability with a b560 board

hardy elbow
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What SSD would you suggest?

stoic island
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I would also personally grab a b560m-a instead of ds3h, ds3h is a bit weird

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500gb sn550 works, 512gb mp33, 512gb helix l, 500gb p31, 500gb pilot e, etc

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just any decent 500gb drive, 250gb ssd is too little nowadays imo

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there's lots of things we like putting on ssd, and it's not that expensive

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if it fits in the budget, you might want to get like a 1tb pilot e

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but 500gb will work

hardy elbow
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Do you have any links for these? I can't find some things on partpicker like the 11500

hardy elbow
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Is it really better to get an i5 than an i7?

stoic island
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it saves you half the money, and it's just 6 cores vs 8 cores

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without a GPU, I'd save up money for a GPU if you want to game (I'd prioritize that over a bit more CPU power at the moment)

hardy elbow
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Can I still game without a GPU with these parts?

stoic island
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Yea

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11400 still has iGP

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not great but it works

earnest olive
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get an 11500/11600/11600K if you want to game on igpu

stoic island
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wait, 11600 exists?

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oh, it's more expensive than the 11600k for some reason atm...

stoic island
hardy elbow
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So what would be the best to get?

earnest olive
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@hardy elbowdo you happen to live near a microcenter

stoic island
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MC would be great if you live near one

hardy elbow
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Unfortunately i do not :/

earnest olive
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microcenter has i5-11600K for $250

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$230 if you buy a mobo

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sad

stoic island
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ideally 11500 at msrp is what you'll want

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but price is just not nice at the moment

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so 11400 is what I say is good RIGHT NOW.

earnest olive
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yeah given the circumstances you can just get an 11400

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or look for an AMD APU

stoic island
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p sure those just don't exist right now

earnest olive
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nvm those are expensive too

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R7 4750G is $410 lol

stoic island
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yea

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4650g was 300$ for a bit but

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that's still 300$

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there's also always our favorite 300$ 3400g

earnest olive
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wait

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he said he is video editing

stoic island
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quicksync

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anyways

earnest olive
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8 core is fine for video editing

stoic island
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but price

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and gaming

fossil cedar
stoic island
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I would save the ~200$ and grab a GPU rather than a bit more editing power

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10700k may be an option tho, but iGP weaker

earnest olive
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i mean presumably he can't find a gpu rn

stoic island
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(dats why I say save up)

earnest olive
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if he needs a functioning pc right now 11700 not a bad choice for 8 cores + strong igpu

stoic island
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I personally still think 11700k is a waste of sand

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it's just sad

earnest olive
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well i said 11700

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11700K price not that bad either rn

stoic island
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oh hey 11700 price is actually lower than 11700k

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unlike 11600 price being above 11600k lol

earnest olive
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compared to an r7 5800x

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it's not bad

stoic island
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but you're comparing garbage to garbage value

earnest olive
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i think 11700 is a good option

stoic island
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11700 may work

earnest olive
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good igpu for him to do light gaming + 8 cores for video editing

stoic island
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340$ for it still hurts tho

earnest olive
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i mean the igpu has some value

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people paying $300 for 5600x 6 core with no igpu

stoic island
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but 11500 with like a 200$ msrp

earnest olive
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but he can benefit from more than 6 cores

frank stirrup
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Sippy after careful consideration I have decided that your new board will be good

earnest olive
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and msrp doesn't matter if the product doesn't exist at msrp

stoic island
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perhaps

earnest olive
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it's like saying he should buy a $700 3080

stoic island
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haven't looked at 11500 lately

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It used to be good stock wise

earnest olive
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people probably found out how good it is and bought it all out

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people who cant get gpu

stoic island
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sadly

earnest olive
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but anyways since he can benefit from 8 cores i say 11700 best option

stoic island
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My question is the importance of video editting vs gaming

earnest olive
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well the 11700 will smash it in both

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but yes more expensive

hardy elbow
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Would 11700 be a better buy than the 11700k?

stoic island
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yea

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but 11700 vs 11400/11600k is interesting

earnest olive
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modern chips don't benefit much from overclocking

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as long as you get a board and cooler that are good enough to unlock power limits on the 11700

frank stirrup
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11600k vs 11700 is fair tbh

earnest olive
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performance is not far from 11700K

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maybe 5% tops

stoic island
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@hardy elbow The question is, how important is video editting and gaming to you?

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What's more important, and how much do you do of each?

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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why you gotta bully me man

hardy elbow
stoic island
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Like, 6 cores is by no means bad at video editting

frank stirrup
stoic island
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hm

earnest olive
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but it's +2 cores AND the better igpu

stoic island
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@hardy elbow In how long do you see yourself having enough to get a new GPU?

earnest olive
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i think it's worth it

stoic island
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(I'm taking 11600k as option still now)

hardy elbow
earnest olive
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could be the difference between 40 fps and 60 fps

frank stirrup
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but yee is just joke sippy dont take seriously. you still have better hwbot scores than most users.

stoic island
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hm

stoic island
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(I would rather save you money to get a GPU sooner if possible, but if it's other limitations, spending more now might work better)

hardy elbow
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It's kinda of both

stoic island
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11700 then

hardy elbow
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Okayyy, thank you!, also what were you saying about the DS3H being weird?

stoic island
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It's, well, a pretty bargain bin cheap board

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b560m-a should be slightly better

hardy elbow
hallow glen
fossil cedar
trim drum
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hey pato

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do you remember me?

fossil cedar
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hi

fossil cedar
kindred knot
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So I upgraded my cpu,amd 5600x to a new 5900x. Not it freezes on windows startup

trim drum
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i wanted to run a idea by you

fossil cedar
kindred knot
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Motherboard - Asus x570-I. Ram-Corsair 18gb 3600mhz. Gpu-Rtx 3080 fe. Psu Corsair 750

grand geyser
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@kindred knot Have you tried to repair your Windows OS?

kindred knot
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Noctua air fan

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1tb ssd

fossil cedar
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which ones

trim drum
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would it be a good idea to buy a new ssd nvme that's slower and fits my pc specs and then store my 980 pro till i get a better cpu and motherboard?

kindred knot
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I have not yet

grand geyser
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Do an OS repair and see what happens.

trim drum
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because currently the max i get from my 980 is 3500 read and 3300 write with my current setup

kindred knot
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Noctua NH-L9a-AM4 chromax.black, Low-Profile CPU Cooler for AMD

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How do I do an is repair?

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Sorry im new at building a pc

fossil cedar
stoic island
stoic island
fossil cedar
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My brain no worky today

stoic island
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They said freeze windows so

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Is ok my brain also no work

fossil cedar
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Thank

kindred knot
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Yes it freezes at windows startup. The wheel thing freezes

stoic island
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Lemme go find the sfc guide

flat acorn
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Can anyone give me their opinion on what they think of an i5 10400f and rtx 2060 pair

kindred knot
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My bios should be updated since I updated when I was on the 5600x

trim drum
# hallow glen What does that mean

i bought a 980 pro but my current motherboard and cpu can't use the full power of the ssd, so i was wondering if i showed buy a slower ssd and put away my 980 pro till i have a better cpu and motherboard

stoic island
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General fix for random windows problems

From an admin command prompt or powershell, run:

sfc /scannow

If that doesn't work, try:

dism /online /cleanup-image /checkhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /scanhealth
dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

Then, try running sfc again.
Repeat as necessary

hallow glen
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Oh. Yeah

stoic island
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@trim drum what do you even need the speed for? Think about what actually needs that sequential performance, it shouldn't matter basically at all for most people

kindred knot
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So I can get in to bios and safe mode easily. Once I got into safe mode I uninstall my gpu driver and it boots up fine. Then it tries to force install the gpu driver and when it does that it goes black and comes back ever time I get a force install notification

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Once installed it freezes again on boot

stoic island
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Oh fun, DDU?

trim drum
stoic island
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(it's not worth it really)

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And it likely won't make a difference

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I wouldn't worry about it

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It's just something you have

trim drum
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i made the mistake to buy it in the first place because i didn't know any better

stoic island
trim drum
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how long do nvme ssd last for?

little osprey
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Can you go wrong with Gigabyte Aorus Master x570?

kindred knot
little osprey
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@kindred knot your windows freeze sounds just like the problem I had a couple weeks ago :( I ended up sending all my items back to supplier now on the hunt for a new build :(

kindred knot
little osprey
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Which mobo you got?

kindred knot
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I got the asus x570-I

little osprey
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Tuf Gaming?

earnest olive
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swapped cpu from what to what

little osprey
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I had a Tuf Gaming x570. Mine did the same when I added a second monitor l. Went into automatic repair and never came back to me.

stoic island
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5600x to 5900x I believe

earnest olive
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weird, shouldn't have windows problems

kindred knot
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Strix. And a 5600x to a 5900x

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Going to try dism now

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Dism came out fine

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No corruption

stoic island
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Hm

kindred knot
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I still have my 5600x. Either I reseat that or I reset my windows and lose all my save

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I have an sff case so I rather not swap cpu again lol

little osprey
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Hey @earnest olive I'm struggling to find mobos online in Spain. You may recall a couple days ago I want to game and stream to YouTube on the same PC with a RTX 2060. I'm going for a 5800x and can buy a Gigabyte Aorus Master x570. What do you think? I'll also be doing a fair amount of editing.

earnest olive
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what are all your options

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you can use spanish pcpartpicker btw

little osprey
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Ohh. I didn't know that. Will check it now cheers.

earnest olive
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also im pretty sure amazon.de ships to all of EU

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@little osprey this is the link to spain pcpartpicker

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it will search retailers available in spain

stoic island
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Retailers in Spain that's on pcpp*

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But yea

earnest olive
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oh wait

little osprey
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Wow wonderful thank you. I sent all my items back so now need full rig

earnest olive
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the v2 version of that board is cheaper

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oh everything?

little osprey
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I am left with 2 monitors that's it.

earnest olive
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even the rtx 2060?

stoic island
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Btw v2 doesn't change much, although vrm is on paper weaker, in practice same.

little osprey
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No I kept that ;)

earnest olive
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good lol

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funny thing

stoic island
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Gpu hard days

earnest olive
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in the corner of my eye

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the flag of spain is looking like a pcpartpicker notification

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so every time i look between monitors i think i got a mail

stoic island
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Pcpp has notification system?

earnest olive
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yeah when people DM you or comment on your build

stoic island
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Ah

earnest olive
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@little osprey i7-11700 is 100 euros cheaper than r7 5800x

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i would recommend doing that or i7-11700F

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i7-11700F is 295 euro, i7-11700 is 320 euro, i7-11700K is 369 euro

little osprey
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I have to buy a 5800x as the money was given to me to use that so the build has to be based on that haha

earnest olive
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huh

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someone gave you money on the condition that you must get 5800x?

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well i suppose if someone else is paying for it it's fine

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it's a good processor just not a great value for its normal price

little osprey
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Well. Someone said what CPU you need. I said I need 8 cores They said here's 500 bucks go buy a 5800x

earnest olive
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11700 is also 8 cores 16 threads

little osprey
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I'll look into that too. I just need something reliable at this stage that isn't gonna die after 5 weeks again :(

earnest olive
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pretty similar performance but the 11700 is much cheaper

little osprey
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Thank you for you help as always.

earnest olive
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could be changed if you prefer air cooling or a different cooler, more or less storage, rgb, etc

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but thats a viable baseline

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even though it's a locked cpu if you are going to be doing heavy rendering/video encoding loads on it with unlocked power limits you will need decent cooling

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same applies for the 5800x although 5800x is unlocked

little osprey
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Wow under 1k.. nice.

earnest olive
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my 5600x gets shockingly hot considering the 360mm cooler and 8 fans i have, so i say liquid cooling is not overkill

stoic island
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or bad silicon

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who knows

earnest olive
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well i put the 2060 as $0 because you already have it

stoic island
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but they do run hot

earnest olive
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but yes rest of the system is well under 1k

fossil cedar
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@little osprey look at Germany and france as well

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For pc part picker

earnest olive
fossil cedar
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Ye all the Amazons do

earnest olive
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oh neat

fossil cedar
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Afaik

little osprey
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Cheers guys. Super helpful

fossil cedar
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To the main countries anyway idk bout like Ukraine r sum

earnest olive
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guess its the same concept as US amazon shipping to all the states

fossil cedar
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Basically lol

earnest olive
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US is pretty big

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hmm

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time to order parts from amazon.de to do a build in siberia

fossil cedar
stoic island
earnest olive
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think about how good the temps will be with siberia ambient temps

fossil cedar
stoic island
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romania bulgaria greece etc

earnest olive
stoic island
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they don't get amazon

earnest olive
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move to siberia for overclocking

stoic island
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I don't think hungry gets amazon either

fossil cedar
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Yeah but Amazon.de ships to Greece n stuff for most of items

earnest olive
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hungry

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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this is such a funny looking motherboard

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it's so cute

fossil cedar
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Only neweggs in eu is uk and turkey grrrrr

earnest olive
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comically sized heatsink on the left

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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why they got this kind of vrm cooling for b460 tho

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looks more overbuilt than some z590 atx boards

stoic island
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@earnest olivehave you seen the itx tr board tho

earnest olive
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no

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cant find on pcpp

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😦

stoic island
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might just be render

earnest olive
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that's beautiful

stoic island
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tryna check if real or not

earnest olive
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TR limited to dual channel is kinda ouchie though

stoic island
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oh not real

earnest olive
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LOL

rich helm
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Wasn’t there that Xeon itx board

stoic island
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yea

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thought there was also tr

earnest olive
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does anyone have recommendations for a good 5" IPS monitor

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with HDMI input

fossil cedar
stoic island
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long boi

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where do you even find 5in monitors

earnest olive
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or a 7" panel that is less than 118mm wide with housing

fossil cedar
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Think they want a screen for inside case

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For temps r something

stoic island
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but where do you find them

earnest olive
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amazon

fossil cedar
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

stoic island
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don't think you can just walk into your local bb

earnest olive
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was just wondering if anyone had a recommendation

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i have a 7" monitor but doesn't fit in my case

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not a big deal cause i have other uses for it

rich helm
earnest olive
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i have a specific idea of where i'm putting mine

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i tested putting my 7" monitor in there and it doesn't fit

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that's the only place i can put it in this case

rich helm
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What case

earnest olive
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o11 dynamic

rich helm
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Ahh I’ve seen people put it on that back fan mount but not other places

earnest olive
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the thing is

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the back is not a fan mount

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lol

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i am putting it there

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but my 7" monitor with housing is 124mm wide

rich helm
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It isn’t lol?

earnest olive
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doesn't fit

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yeah it doesn't have enough room to mount a fan

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i will have triple top exhaust

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so it's fine

little osprey
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19,100 rpm?

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At 32dB?

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Dang

stoic island
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lol

desert gulch
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I think it's possible

stoic island
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maybe you could

kindred knot
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Ok I’m back. So I reinstalled my old cpu and it boots. But now there’s something wrong with my gpu lmfao

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It keeps trying to force installs and blacks out the screen when I get a notification saying force install then the screen comes back on so it pretty much blips

desert gulch
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Uhh when a gpu updates it will flicker the screen lol

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It's completely normal

little osprey
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For a friend to play rust

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The GPU is a place holder

desert gulch
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Go b560

little osprey
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He might actually be getting a custom looped EVGA 2080 FTW3 hydrocopper

desert gulch
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Can't go above 2666 with an i5 on b460

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I'd go 11400/11500 and b560

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He could just get igpu for awhile then get gpu when he can

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And I wouldn't advise a 2080 rn, it'll be overpriced

little osprey
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Ik someone local with the FTW3 Hydro

desert gulch
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I'd get a 3060ti

little osprey
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$780 for GPU, pump/reservoir, and 360mm radiator

desert gulch
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Meh

little osprey
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Local

desert gulch
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I'd rather a 3060ti and save 380 bucks at that point

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3060ti is pretty much a 2080

little osprey
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Thing is we can't get 3060TIs around here

desert gulch
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In terms of performance

little osprey
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W/o paying scalpers

desert gulch
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That's why I'd stick with igpu for awhile then snag one at some point

little osprey
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Can he use iGPU to run rust?

desert gulch
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I'd also just get a 1tb m.2 nvme

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Nah

little osprey
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*run it WELL

desert gulch
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It won't run it

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Rust is hella gpu intensive

little osprey
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Exactly lol

desert gulch
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And you live in USA right?

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Or at least you friend does?

little osprey
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Yeah

desert gulch
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Should be able to snag a 3060ti then

little osprey
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This is my build rn

little osprey
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Not vs bots and such

desert gulch
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I've had the chance to

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On best buy yes

little osprey
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Ive been trying try Newegg shuffle for 3onths with no luck

desert gulch
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I've been able to buy one, I didn't need one but I easily couldve

little osprey
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I check daily and it always says sold out

desert gulch
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I'd join a stockdrops server and go with it

little osprey
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Yeah, well when he'd rather get it tomorrow vs 10 months down the road....

desert gulch
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Well

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I could a bought a 3060ti a week ago tbh

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An Fe for msrp

little osprey
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Good for you

desert gulch
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399.99

little osprey
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Not everyone is lucky enough

desert gulch
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Just saying it exists

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And I'm not even checking like crazy

little osprey
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Trust me, I've been trying EVERYDAY since the first release

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Nothing but scalpers and bots

desert gulch
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I check one a day and I've had multiple opportunities to get one... Problem with 780 2080 is that it's just bad value with the new cards

little osprey
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Well when you can't get new cards 😒

desert gulch
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Especially when outperformed by 3060ti for way less

little osprey
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I paid $700 for my 2070S

desert gulch
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Bit high imo

little osprey
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Had a 780ti prior

desert gulch
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So pretty big upgrade

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I thought you had a 5700xt before the 2070s too right?

little osprey
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Yeah, but it was over heating badly

desert gulch
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Oh yeah

little osprey
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Like my games would crash kind of bad

desert gulch
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It was an xfx card right?

little osprey
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Yep

desert gulch
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Typical

little osprey
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Xfx raw 2

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I ordered a ASRock taichi+ 5700xt, received the xfx after 2 weeks of backorder and didn't feel like returning

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Total for friend is like $1900

desert gulch
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Taichi looks pretty nice

little osprey
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Including 2080 and other custom loop hardware

desert gulch
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I almost got it

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For 1900 you could easily easily buy a scalped 3060ti and do a build for cheaper

little osprey
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Not really?

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Especially since he wants a custom loop

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So...besides the GPU, what do you think about it

desert gulch
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Oh if he really wants a custom loop then maybe

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Ig if it comes with all that it's alright

plucky wagon
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One minute ago I will do my wise financial planning
Right Now I WILL BLOW ALL MY MONEY INTO PC BUILDING

little osprey
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TRUTH

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gets paycheck and puts it into savings account
Sees nice headphones
Empties savings into checking to buy headphones

plucky wagon
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I've been struggling not to go for the build

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Convincing myself that the old hardware is obsolete and no need to buy, the new hardware will on its way to obsolete when both AMD and Intel release new product in the near future so no need to buy too

scenic cloud
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My various pandemic stimulus checks were set aside and were what I used to finally snag a GPU in a Shuffle Wednesday, since I'm "essential" and have been working 48+ hrs/wk through the whole thing as a convenience store manager.

little osprey
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Yep I also saved my stimulus money and was able to snag a graphics card in the shuffle on the 11th.

scenic cloud
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I'm surprised my card shipped so quick. I got selected Wednesday and got my card today.

little osprey
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My took a little longer since I missed the delivery twice since it needed signed for and I was at work

scenic cloud
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I lucked out and today was one of my days off from work this week.

little osprey
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I ended up picking it up at ups instead

urban verge
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@lyric thistle Australian, eh?

lyric thistle
eager vessel
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'ello

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maybe not?

little osprey
round stream
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Sup peeps

little osprey
#

To do a full stage 3 custom loop for my desktop

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For a stage 2

stoic island
#

what the heck

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@little osprey the heck is a 'stage 3' and 'stage 2'

little osprey
#

@stoic island Corsair website

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Stage 2 is a 360mm rad in front stage 3 is a 360mm in front and a 240mm up top

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Sorry, 280mm rad

stoic island
#

...

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welp

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just corsair things

#

they really gotta charge like 180$ just for another rad

little osprey
#

Yeah

stoic island
#

for 300$ after shipping you can get a full soft tube kit :P

little osprey
#

Tbh, I could probably get all that for cheaper thru Amazon and newegg

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I just did this too see what's compatible and get a shopping list

little osprey
#

Also turns out my HP 2070S(the board is a reference board of the msi aero 2070S) uses the 2080S FE revB water block

stoic island
#

also, that listing is not a joke, pretty sure hei bought like 5 kits

little osprey
#

Sus 🤔🤔🤔

stoic island
little osprey
#

It was a joke

little osprey
stoic island
#

Just Corsair things

little osprey
#

Lol

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Well I don't need to get those exact parts lol

#

I can go thru ek or something

rich helm
queen dagger
#

thoughts on this? ik i ask a lot but i like to get different people's opinions

#

also someone gonna have to run me through on BIOS updating eventually

#

anyways talk to yall in the mornin

stoic island
#

good

stoic island
flat acorn
#

Does anyone have a $1000 custom build list, good enough for 80+ fps?

#

Thanks dude

muted patio
#

Most of those parts lists are no longer valid due to the GPU shortage

#

They still list things like 5700XT for a $1000 build. GPU alone now is 500-600 used

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For $1000 I'd recommend a prebuilt with a 1660 super

flat acorn
#

Just saw that

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Okay

muted patio
#

That's a really, really good buy right now

stoic island
#

1250$ and you might get the 3060 prebuilt

obsidian wigeon
#

bruh

#

who's dumb enough to lease hw

plucky wagon
#

Never get into debt even it's interest-free tho

obsidian wigeon
#

if you lease you better have a job that's an excuse to it

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like say, workstation stuff or smth

rich helm
obsidian wigeon
#

like you need the hardware to make cash, and that cash can easily pay off while having some left

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ik, but the process is kinda the same

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pay by installments

marble whale
#

Is Windows 11 out yet?

elfin grotto
#

I just installed a Corsair H115i AIO. The first few boots, the pump lit up no problem. Now for some reason it's not lighting up and not pumping. I changed the SATA power connector to a different rail, still no change. What are the chances my pump is dead? It lasted about 3 boots.

hidden cradle
#

Im building a pc and i need everthing but the cpu and gpu the cpu is a ryzen 5 1600 budget about 300-400

earnest olive
#

what gpu

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how much did you pay for the r5 1600

hidden cradle
#

rx 570 its my old one

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my cousin give me his old 1600 for free

earnest olive
#

oh

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what are you upgrading from

hidden cradle
#

Really old dell prebuild lol

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like a 1st gen i7

earnest olive
#

nice

frank stirrup
#

RX570 GANG!

hidden cradle
#

I would upgrade but nope

earnest olive
#

did he include stock cooler

hidden cradle
#

no

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i want to be able to upgrade cpu

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and gpu eventually

earnest olive
#

hm

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so spend a little more on psu and mobo is what you're saying?

hidden cradle
#

a motherbored that can support like a ryzen 5 3600x

earnest olive
#

need wifi?

hidden cradle
#

nope

#

i got powerline adapter

earnest olive
#

can improve some things if you want to max out $400 budget

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like more storage capacity or better psu

#

but that psu should be good up to like a 3070 if you stay with ryzen 5 3600x

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or 5600x

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just gonna get a little more questionable if you get higher wattage ones

frank stirrup
#

Thats a pretty good board

earnest olive
#

yeah looks solid for budget

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gotta stick to b450 to guarantee compatibility with the 1600

frank stirrup
#

x570 works as well

earnest olive
#

idk about putting x570 in a $400 budget build

frank stirrup
#

more expensive tho

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yeah

earnest olive
#

surprisingly it lacks an ARGB header

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hmm

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that might be a problem with the vetroo then

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the case includes a controller

frank stirrup
#

Solved

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problem

earnest olive
#

but i don't remember if the controller supports 2 or 3 fans

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if it's 2 then vetroo would need a separate controller

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i don't know why asus hates ARGB headers

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and loves RGB headers

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even on their high end boards only 1 ARGB header

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but 2 RGB headers

hidden cradle
#

pc part picker says 337 but amazon says 391

earnest olive
#

this will work

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well there are rebates

#

depends on if you mind rebates or not

hidden cradle
#

whats that

earnest olive
#

you pay a higher price first and mail in proof of purchase and they will mail you a card with some cash value

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you can use them at grocery store

hidden cradle
#

How do you do that

earnest olive
#

or wherever accepts prepaid cards

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there will be instructions if you buy an item with a rebate

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2 items in this list have rebates

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if you would rather not deal with rebates i can change it

hidden cradle
#

is it worth it?

earnest olive
#

well

#

it's just a delayed discount

hidden cradle
#

hmm

earnest olive
#

i like this case a lot though for budget builds

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i've used it like 3 times

hidden cradle
#

uhh what do you think

earnest olive
#

i mean i recommended it that should imply i think it's good

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but some people don't like rebates

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personally i don't care

hidden cradle
#

is they one way you could do one that there isnt any rebates?

earnest olive
#

yeah thats what i was asking lol

hidden cradle
#

mb

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not the brightest lol

earnest olive
#

here you go, no rebates

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this case also has a white version

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can't speak for how good this case is though, have not used it before

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it looks quite interesting for the price though, might try it for an i7-4770K budget build i have planned

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fan speed can't be controlled but people are saying they're not noisy

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dunno i'd have to look into it more

hidden cradle
#

case not for sale on amazon

earnest olive
#

everything has to be on amazon?

snow wasp
#

anything i should change on this list?

spiral flame
#

send the link

earnest olive
#

several things yes

snow wasp
#

open to suggestions

earnest olive
#

overpriced motherboard (even if you want that specific model i've seen them sold for as low as $115 on r/hardwareswap)

#

corsair ram is trash

#

ssd very pricey for 500gb

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glass front case means you're choking your components of airflow

frank stirrup
#

Il make edits

earnest olive
#

and corsair rgb fans are overpriced memes

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

1tb sure but im not convinced paying $75 for a 500gb ssd is a good idea

frank stirrup
#

fair

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@snow wasp send the link to that list ill make edits

snow wasp
#

one sec im creating acc lol

earnest olive
#

might as well take the savings on some of the meme stuff and get a midrange or premium 1tb ssd

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you don't need an account to send link

frank stirrup
#

just above your parts

snow wasp
earnest olive
#

lick?

snow wasp
#

mb new to this

earnest olive
#

craipop are you licking your pcpp lists

snow wasp
#

this is for my sis lol

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
spiral flame
earnest olive
#

anyways i already typed out all the problems with the list

snow wasp
earnest olive
#

someone else can make the edits im gaming Sip

snow wasp
#

and our cousin got a 1080 and hes looking to upgrade

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so 1080 for 200

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hows that pricing

earnest olive
#

$200 1080?

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can i be your cousin

snow wasp
#

no hes selling it to my sis xD

earnest olive
#

those are worth $500 rn

snow wasp
#

owh

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steal ig

earnest olive
#

yeah but i wanna be part of your family so i can get cheap pc parts

snow wasp
#

yea cuz i wanna get a 5800x or 5900x but idk if my NZXT Z53 can hold a 5900x

earnest olive
#

z53 is 120mm?

robust lake
#

It cant

snow wasp
earnest olive
#

oh

#

240mm should be fine for gaming

robust lake
#

Its pretty bad aio tho

earnest olive
#

will be sweating hard if you hit it with heavy all core loads though

hidden cradle
earnest olive
#

oh god

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not the h510

#

no it's not good

hidden cradle
#

lol

snow wasp
#

probably getting a 5800x then

hidden cradle
#

my cousin has it and i thought it looks cool

robust lake
#

5800x is getting hot

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So beware

snow wasp
#

since its widely available too

snow wasp
earnest olive
#

i mean h510 is ok for budget build but if you upgrade gpu it'll catch fire

snow wasp
#

if not ill sell her my aio and buy a new one lmao

robust lake
#

Lol

hidden cradle
#

oh well dont want that happing lol

#

happening*

frank stirrup
#

@snow wasp

snow wasp
#

yea i personally would go this route but

#

kids

#

want rgb

#

and shes willing to pay for it...

frank stirrup
#

buy a 5$ rgb strip and slap it in there

snow wasp
earnest olive
#

rgb cases with good airflow exist

#

the case you chose has rgb sure

#

but no airflow

snow wasp
#

i heard that 4000x isnt bad

#

i got 4000d personally

frank stirrup
#

4000d airflow

snow wasp
earnest olive
#

everyone simps 4000d airflow when it's on sale for $70

spiral flame
snow wasp
#

ight thanks for the advice guys

mossy kernel
#

Y’all would say a 650w power supply should be enough

snow wasp
#

ima ask her tmr morning lol

frank stirrup
#

SIPPY

#

what rgb fans would u recommend

snow wasp
#

tbh buying the gpu from my cousin saved me a night trip to microcenter

#

whos sippy

frank stirrup
#

@earnest olive

#

rgb fan reccomends?

robust lake
#

4000x has decent airflow and you can always remove the front panel

frank stirrup
snow wasp
#

ahh

earnest olive
#

arctic p12 argb looks promising

snow wasp
#

cuz it was only sippy before lol

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

sad

spiral flame
#

they are? sadge

earnest olive
#

i dunno, ever since i bought those id-cooling argb fans in bulk while they had a pricing error

#

i haven't had a reason to look at rgb fans

#

let me look now

#

these look good

#

27db, pwm, standard argb connector

snow wasp
#

also since we got 6 fans

frank stirrup
#

Also 1080 needs minimum 500w PSU yeah?

#

so a 650 is good

snow wasp
#

if im going with corsair fans i would go with commander pro but what other fan hubs are out there

earnest olive
#

you could go with a cheaper psu than rm650

robust lake
#

Commender pro is a rip off

snow wasp
earnest olive
#

corsair in general is a rip off

#

except psu and case

snow wasp
#

xD

robust lake
#

You can just use spliters or a 10$ hub

earnest olive
#

i dont think its good to buy 4000d airflow for full price

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

i feel like if you are gonna get it for $95 and add 3 rgb fans

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

you might as well just buy a $100 case with rgb fans

#

is $95 not full price?

frank stirrup
#

Nah

spiral flame
frank stirrup
#

it goes up to 130

earnest olive
#

i got all of my 4000d airflows for $70

#

130 is sus

frank stirrup
#

It was there like 3 days ago

earnest olive
#

oh wait

#

i just realized my pricing is set to amazon only cause that previous guy wanted amazon only

#

i was wondering why you were paying $160 for 16gb ram

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

anyways ballistix rgb is cheaper

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

$20 more but yeah it's subjective if you think it's worth that much more

frank stirrup
#

itll look real nice in that 4000d as well

earnest olive
#

i like how ballistix looks

frank stirrup
#

theres the final list

earnest olive
hidden cradle
earnest olive
#

yeah p360a is good

snow wasp
#

ight ima look at the list

#

thanks guys

earnest olive
#

you could put the freezer 280 at the top then you have 4 fan mounts left for the rgb

snow wasp
#

probably replace those with the rgb fans lmao

earnest olive
#

yeah no

#

that would not be a good idea

#

you can't just swap any old case fan onto a radiator

#

radiator fans tend to have higher static pressure to push or pull air through the fin stack

#

the P14s on the freezer 280 have significantly higher static pressure than these rgb fans

#

the rgb fans are suitable for case fans but you'd be losing cooling performance if you put them on the radiator... and also

#

you'd be putting 2 120mm fans on a radiator designed for 2 140mm fans

#

so a very large portion of your radiator would just not be getting active cooling at all

keen fractal
#

Someone help me i am not able to control my ARGB fans

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

well you put 8

#

and the case cannot fit that

frank stirrup
#

my bad

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

you are going to have to describe the problem...

keen fractal
#

Like how

#

I have ARGB fans i connected it to the rgb header

frank stirrup
#

motherboard, what software, what fans

keen fractal
frank stirrup
#

and models

earnest olive
#

that is not rgb connector lol

keen fractal
earnest olive
#

that is the pwm fan power connector

keen fractal
frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

not the header..

#

you plugged the wrong cable onto the header

keen fractal
#

Oh

#

What to do now

earnest olive
#

are they even spinning?

keen fractal
#

Yes

frank stirrup
#

sippy

#

stop being bad

earnest olive
frank stirrup
#

look at the holes on the connector

keen fractal
frank stirrup
#

at the top

earnest olive
#

huh

frank stirrup
#

it is an rgb connector

earnest olive
#

the label says PWM

#

wack

keen fractal
#

They r spinning

earnest olive
#

i guess it is just a weird nonstandard argb cable then

keen fractal
#

Oh yes

earnest olive
#

...with a label that says PWM

keen fractal
#

I'm dumb

frank stirrup
#

in the 4 pin

earnest olive
#

yeah i see it now

#

i saw the label first

keen fractal
#

There was a cable it had a tag called only for gigabyte motherboards

#

My case has something like a hub

frank stirrup
keen fractal
#

This

frank stirrup
#

bad pic

keen fractal
#

Srrt

frank stirrup
#

cant make out anything

keen fractal
#

Sryy

#

Wait

#

@frank stirrup

frank stirrup
#

plug it in there

keen fractal
#

What to plug?

#

The first cable?

keen fractal
frank stirrup
#

the argb one you had a problem with ofc

keen fractal
#

Its not turning on now

#

@frank stirrup

#

The fans

plucky wagon
#

FUKIT I JUST GO ALL OUT AND SPEND ALL MY MONEY

frank stirrup
#

show me all the wires coming from the fans

frank stirrup
keen fractal
#

Wait

#

They r connected here

plucky wagon
keen fractal
#

This cable

#

Whats this?

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
keen fractal
#

Ok

frank stirrup
keen fractal
#

These are the cables

frank stirrup
plucky wagon
#

how yall manage your finance

keen fractal
#

Which are connected to the hub

#

Ok

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
snow wasp
plucky wagon
#

real talk though

#

i save 70% of my paycheck and live a stoic life

#

but now i want a pc so bad

keen fractal
#

Now?

plucky wagon
#

i dunno what to do

keen fractal
#

@frank stirrup

frank stirrup
keen fractal
#

Sry

frank stirrup
#

also send a pic of what you did

keen fractal
plucky wagon
#

i guess you should check your case's manual

keen fractal
#

Hmm

frank stirrup
#

not rgb

keen fractal
#

Its not starting

frank stirrup
#

yep remove the cable from there

keen fractal
#

Ok

frank stirrup
#

put it on the right side of the hub

#

no wait dont do that

#

take the wire that says for gigabyte boards only

keen fractal
#

Didn't do it

frank stirrup
#

in there

keen fractal
#

Ok

frank stirrup
#

take the other cable

#

plug it into ur mobo

#

a pwm header

#

on ur mobo

keen fractal
#

Ok

#

Pc not turning on

#

The fans spinned for a sec then turned off

frank stirrup
#

start it up wait for a bit

#

it might power cycle

keen fractal
#

Ok

#

It turned on

plucky wagon
#

rawr i would like to ask... if a psu is 500Watt, it has 80Plus Gold certification, does that mean it can output 500*0.8=440 Watt of power steadily?

frank stirrup
#

Pretty sure it does all 500w

#

just draws a little more power from the wall iirc

#

I could be wrong tho

frank stirrup
plucky wagon
#

lessgo, thank you!

keen fractal
#

I still can't change the colours

#

🥲

#

Its fine

#

My one fan is very slow now

#

Rawr

#

Pls help

#

My pc is producing a beep sound

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

so 625

frank stirrup
#

Yep thats what i thought

plucky wagon
#

thanks!

earnest olive
#

being gold rated it usually should be better than 80% efficiency

#

more like 88-92%

#

so 543-568W from the wall

#

you would expect closer to 625W from 80+ white

#

that's at full load though

#

and you usually don't run psu at full load

plucky wagon
#

Finally I selected Silverstone's SX650 PSU, it's 80Plus Gold rated

#

and it's for SFX

earnest olive
#

650 is pretty overkill for your build

#

unless you got a really good price

plucky wagon
#

i dont know what to do now...

earnest olive
#

having overkill psu is good for efficiency but only if you get a good price

plucky wagon
#

in the future if the gpu price drop down i might go get a 3060Ti

earnest olive
#

i5-11400 + 3060 will draw like 350W peak under max synthetic load

#

more like 300W in gaming

#

if you can find a high quality 500-550W for cheap it will be ok even with a 3070

#

your cpu doesn't need that much power

#

not enough for 3080 though'

plucky wagon
#

i would not go that highend tho

#

the electric bill would be killing me

earnest olive
#

well technically it would be enough for a 3080 but i would be uncomfortable

plucky wagon
#

if i eventually replace with a 3080 i will replace the psu also

earnest olive
#

is there high quality 500-550W for cheaper

plucky wagon
#

not at this moment

#

ol

#

lol

earnest olive
#

how much is the 650W

plucky wagon
#

108 USD

earnest olive
#

thats not too bad

#

yeah just buy it

#

sfx psu are expensive

plucky wagon
#

yes, really expensive

#

i live in a rented place, so i think a sff pc would help if i move in or move out

earnest olive
#

oh yeah for sure

#

make sure you save the packing box for your monitor and case

plucky wagon
#

will do! but just need time to figure out whats the best for the budget for now

#

holy coe

#

cow

#

found a Seasonic Focus SGX 500W PSU, it's SFX-L and 80Plus Gold rated

#

and it's 95 usd

marble whale
#

Hey I just got 4gbs of ddr3 1600ghz to add on to 4gbs

#

How do I handle the ram?

earnest olive
earnest olive
marble whale
#

Like how do I pick it up?

keen fractal
#

@frank stirrup I just noticed that my mobo does not have ARGB

plucky wagon
#

lol

chrome rampart
#

does anyone run a 6700 xt gpu? if so, what is your experience with it?? pros/cons?

lyric thistle
frank stirrup
#

Picking it up with the feet can be problematic

fossil cedar
plucky wagon
#

I gave up, I placed the order

#

CPU: i5 11400F
FAN: ID COOLING SE-40
MB: ROG B560i ITX Motherboard (CPU and MB are bundled)
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3000Mhz RAM
HDD: 500GB HDD from old build
GPU: R9 270 from old build
CASE: CoolerMaster NR200 Black
PSU: Seasonic SGX500 500 Watt SFX-L PSU

tight sorrel
#

ooh!!! ITX!!! Nice! dont see many of those! Please post pics when you build it

plucky wagon
#

This is the best I can get, really tight budget

little osprey
#

I’ve been slowly building/upgrading my pc over the years. I just got my new graphics card yesterday and I still have to put it in sometime this weekend

tight sorrel
plucky wagon
#

already found out

#

i just went full dumb

#

maybe the day i receive the parts i got instant regret

tight sorrel
#

Nah dude, I think you got a nice little system there. I am aiming to build and ITX machine for my lounge, so that I can Steam remote play. Gona use that same case.

fossil cedar
#

Fyi some itx cases don't take hdds

frank stirrup
#

for not listening to anyone