building-and-recc-chat

[ruby sentinel]

Resourceful!

[earnest olive]

there is no perceivable difference in boot times between SATA SSD and NVMe M.2 SSD

[hallow glen]

game loading times perceivable?

[earnest olive]

only if you are really staring at a timer

[fossil cedar]

Windows doesn't actually let you install on external drive

[earnest olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_iJTrzOus

well yes, but not all PCs are windows

😛

my raspberry pi boots off of an sd card

[fossil cedar]

Yeah you could do linux r sum but most users want windows lol

[hallow glen]

my pc in gta 5 takes 2 or 3 min to load

[hallow glen]

not fun

[earnest olive]

so yeah not a real difference between SATA SSD and NVMe SSD

but HDD very noticeably slower

[stoic island]

wifi provider is just whoever is in your area that covers you, router wise, amplifi is good

[timber dragon]

Ok so my pc is acting weird. Like when I boot it up I see these vertical lines, then when I get into windows they're not there. What could that mean?

[regal cairn]

I was thinking about building a second pc for home theater. After searching for the right slim case I thought is it worth having an optical drive in 2021? A console can play bluray and dvds or I could buy a stand alone disc player. Which one is a better quality? I would like to see other people opinions about this.

[wide sparrow]

just buy a standalone bluray drive. no reason wasting space with a optical drive

[stoic island]

Very few cases in general have a 5.25in bay nowadays, even less in smaller form factors

[wide sparrow]

thats for sure

optical drive slots are basically dead

[stoic island]

Ya

[wide sparrow]

for many many years now

[timber dragon]

I guess it's not much to worry about then

[wide sparrow]

yep

not a single tinge of worry

[regal cairn]

Alright. The thought only came across my mind because I wonder would a pc out put a better display than a bluray player/console

[wide sparrow]

nah

[muted patio]

harder for a PC to do 4K etc

BR player or console would be cheaper

[wide sparrow]

i mean

[stoic island]

for now, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

[wide sparrow]

how much is for a PS5 and xbox series x?

[timber dragon]

I'll admit I still kinda feel nervous about it but if you say so @stoic island

[regal cairn]

$500+

[wide sparrow]

getting an external 4k bluray drive would be cheaper

but quality looks questionable

[stoic island]

I just don't think there's any issues if nothing is wrong while in windows/bios, it might just be some startup thing with the monitor.

[lyric thistle]

PS2 does some fancy dances on screen when switching from 540p to 1080i in GT4

[timber dragon]

Maybe 🤷🏾‍♂️

[wide sparrow]

can u plug a BR player meant for television to a PC lol? @muted patio

[muted patio]

If you have a capture card

[wide sparrow]

oh ok

never knew that

[muted patio]

Ya, otherwise it needs a monitor/TV

[wide sparrow]

right right

[timber dragon]

Like even if I go into bios settings the lines are still there but outside of bios/boot it's gone

[timber dragon]

And now my screen has a random yellow tint

[ruby sentinel]

What power cables will I need for a Tuf motherboards with no PC just the minimum 9

?*

[fossil cedar]

What?

Same for all motherboards, you'll need a 24 pin atx and a 4+4 pin cpu

[timber dragon]

I'm seeing a yellow filter on my monitor

[fossil cedar]

Can you rephrase?

[ruby sentinel]

Tuf b560m plus wifi

[fossil cedar]

Was responding to the guy below, their sentence doesn't make sense

[fossil cedar]

No, can you rephrase your question

[timber dragon]

Sorry

[ruby sentinel]

What cables do I need from my psu?

[fossil cedar]

Have you tried different ports/cables

[fossil cedar]

Dw lol

[fossil cedar]

The normal ones for all motherboards, 24 pin atx and 4+4 pin cpu power cables

[timber dragon]

I'm starting to think it might be a cable issue at this rate

[ruby sentinel]

That's all?

No graphics card btw.

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[ruby sentinel]

Thank you so much!

[fossil cedar]

Np

[timber dragon]

I'm also downloading a display driver from a microsoft update so hopefully that would fix it

[ruby sentinel]

I'm legit crying after finishing my PC build stream.

I didn't do it.

[fossil cedar]

Maybe but usually it's a cable/port issue

[timber dragon]

Hmmm

[spiral flame]

On my way to camp for the 3070 ti they had a 3070

[fossil cedar]

Nice

[timber dragon]

@fossil cedar

[earnest olive]

g r e e n

[fossil cedar]

That looks like a cable/port issue

I've seen before

Can you try a different cable/port

[timber dragon]

I can't atm. And now it's blinking

[spiral flame]

I'm not gonna get a 3070 ti I'm happy with this

[fossil cedar]

I mean it is what it is but it makes sense why they rejected

[timber dragon]

The closest I've tried is the vga to dvi connector and it seemed to be fine but I didn't have much time with it

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's most likely a dodgy cable then

Ohh yeah but i think anyone looking for 70 ti is just cuz launch and would be happy with regular 3070

[timber dragon]

Let's hope so

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik ik lol

[timber dragon]

Will this have any long term effects if left unattended for a time? @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Nah

[timber dragon]

That's good at least

This is what I was talking about earlier @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Ohh oof

Mb it be screen then if you're talking bout the line

[timber dragon]

But it's gone when it goes to the windows log in screen

[frank stirrup]

I see nothing wrong here

[timber dragon]

I probably exited out of the flash too soon and not realize it

[weak hound]

Hey guys I have a question regarding a PSU

I need an SFX or SFXL for my case

I have a 3-8pin gpu

Most of this psu only came with 2-8pin output, any recommendation

[earnest olive]

it's fine to daisy chain one of the two cables

[weak hound]

I already buy a seasonic 800 platinum and EVGA 850w gold

No issue with Daisy chain?

Im using a 3090 and Ryzen 9 5950x

[earnest olive]

2 cables with 1 daisy chain = 3x8

when people say don't daisy chain for ampere it means don't run 2x8 gpu with 1 cable daisy chained

[weak hound]

Ok I see

That’s my main fear, that the gpu got damaged

[earnest olive]

if you have 2 cables it's safe to daisy chain the third connector

[weak hound]

I’ll try it

[ruby sentinel]

How do you overclock ram?

Btw, thank you Pato for the info.

It works now.

Just on the bios

[fossil cedar]

Just enable xmp

[timber dragon]

So I guess it's bad news then

[earnest olive]

https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md not for the faint of heart

just enable xmp unless you're really into tinkering

[ruby sentinel]

How do you find XMP?

[fossil cedar]

They needed help with power connectors for the mobo, hence the xmp recommendation lol

[fossil cedar]

Under memory

[earnest olive]

yeah probably the right call

[fossil cedar]

Ram oc =lots of clear cmos and ram stress test lol

[timber dragon]

I guess I should be fine then

[shrewd fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Everlast05/saved/#view=8D9L99

[fossil cedar]

Its private

[shrewd fjord]

How change

[fossil cedar]

Just send the link from system builder list or change it in the list settings r sum

[shrewd fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/whrBnL

[fossil cedar]

Burget 550?

[shrewd fjord]

Yes

It was 500 but I added cpu cooler in case I upgrade later

[spiral flame]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7H32sX get this instead

[shrewd fjord]

@fossil cedar what is difference

[earnest olive]

pato

i got the lists switched at first and i was so confused by your recommendations

LOL

[fossil cedar]

What other list lol?

[stoic island]

sad that ballistix price went up again

wasn't it just 87$ the other day

[earnest olive]

liquid cooled h510

[stoic island]

120mm aio too

[earnest olive]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

Better value cpu cooler and 120mm aios suck, better ram, better motherboard better case

[shrewd fjord]

Mk

@stoic island do you approve of the list pato sent

[earnest olive]

id change the cooler to one that's not red led

just in case you wanna add rgb later you won't be stuck to red theme

but if you like red then it's fine

[shrewd fjord]

I like red especially in dark

[earnest olive]

i have a white build but sometimes im in the mood for some other color like purple

so i go for rgb instead of white led

[fossil cedar]

Then it's perf

[earnest olive]

if you dont think being stuck with red will be a problem then its fine

[fossil cedar]

Well just considering the budget didn't wanna spend an extra 10$ or so on a se224 white

[earnest olive]

id upgrade i5-11400 to i5-11500 if you dont have a graphics card

[fossil cedar]

And if the budget

[earnest olive]

case has blueish white led fans

[stoic island]

it works

[earnest olive]

kinda clashes with cooler

ive used that case before its much less blue to the eye than it looks like in pictures

but still clashes

[fossil cedar]

It's budget, asthetics are not a priority lol

[earnest olive]

maybe if he likes ambulance pc

or police car

[fossil cedar]

XD

Weee wooo

[earnest olive]

well id rather have non led fans than led fans if they clash

u know what im saying

[chrome rampart]

I just bought a Lian Li O11D mini snow edition.. going to be my first build.. but getting a gpu is a joke right now.. would it be better to wait and just buy pre-built?

......

(Awkward silence)

......

[ruby sentinel]

I DID IT!

Never building a new pc ever again.

[chrome rampart]

I just bought a Lian Li O11D mini snow edition.. going to be my first build.. but getting a gpu is a joke right now.. would it be better to wait and just buy pre-built?

[ruby sentinel]

I'd say rebuild is best because I went for the cheap and on deals and still payed almost 600

[timber dragon]

@fossil cedar When I disable my display device my colors go back to normal 🤔

[fossil cedar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fossil cedar]

Jeeesus wait a few minutes for a response don't ask 3 times lol

[frank stirrup]

👍

[ruby sentinel]

But you do you, if you find a pre-built that is less than 600 with a i5 11400 with 16 Gb 3600 MHz CL16 then go for it.

[fossil cedar]

Lmao no prebuilt gonna have 3600 especially in intel

[ruby sentinel]

Or 3200

I just got the 3600 because for some reason it was cheaper than the 3200.

[fossil cedar]

Ehh sometimes they have 3200 tbf

[ruby sentinel]

I'm happy now.

All that hard work payed off.

[fossil cedar]

Good

[ruby sentinel]

Okay, so. Scratch that.

It just shut off for no reason

[frank stirrup]

There is always a reason for everything

check event viewer

[ruby sentinel]

What is that and how do I do that?

[frank stirrup]

google

i gtg sleep

its 3AM

[ruby sentinel]

Goodnight!

[frank stirrup]

GN!

[ruby sentinel]

Okay. So. CPU overheating after a couple of minutes of use

It's at 73°c XD

I'm using the stock cooler.

First upgrade will be the CPU cooler.

[frank stirrup]

73 is fine

cpu can do 90 no issue

[ruby sentinel]

It showed red. That means bad.

[frank stirrup]

mine has hit 105 once

still works fine

[ruby sentinel]

There ya go.

I'm at 52

[frank stirrup]

idle temps don matter

[ruby sentinel]

I mean. It crashed my PC.

[frank stirrup]

not possible

something else did

google how to use event viewer

[fossil cedar]

70c will not crash your pc, it won't throttle till 85 or 90, it's probs another reason, can you send the event viewer screen shot?

[earnest olive]

it crashed for some other reason

70c is good

[hallow glen]

[green laurel]

hello does anyone have a site they may recommend to sell computer.. trying to stay away from ebay so dont get charged the 10percent of sell?

[earnest olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardwareswap/

read rules before posting or it'll just get deleted

@green laurel

[green laurel]

cool thanks

[ruby sentinel]

Freaking heck

It's all good now.

Installed some drivers.

[earnest olive]

you can ask for local only (no fees) or offer shipping through paypal g&s (2.9% fee)

it's common to ask for a higher price shipped to make up for fees

[green laurel]

TY

[earnest olive]

no problem, good luck with your sale

[median inlet]

Can someone give me a pc parts picker list for a starter pc for around $1,000-$1,1000 please?

[earnest olive]

do you want a realistic gpu price or a dream gpu price

i guess the answer is neither

[stoic island]

Lol

[earnest olive]

[median inlet]

What do you mean by that?

[stoic island]

Scalped price or the really-damn-hard-to-get price

Oh and there's the aib markuped price

[median inlet]

Definitely scaled price like its original price

[stoic island]

?

wat

[gloomy python]

you heard the man

[stoic island]

scalped price is very different from original price

[hallow glen]

really hard to get price is the original price

[median inlet]

I know but just act like it is at its original price is what l meant

[hallow glen]

k

11400-3070 build maybe?

[stoic island]

you know what, examples will make it easier
A 3070, MSRP -> 500$
Normal AIB card nowadays -> 700$
Scalped price -> ~1200$

which figure do you want us to use

[hallow glen]

Scalped price -> ~1450

[stoic island]

low side estimates but yea

[gloomy python]

i saw a 3070 for $3000 a few weeks ago...

[hallow glen]

[stoic island]

most 3070 aib cards are closer to 800$ and scalped price usually higher, but that's about lowest you can expect

[median inlet]

Then not scaled price

[hallow glen]

one of my favorite youtubers a few months ago, before the apocalypse really began, bought a puget system for 5k. it had a 3080 in it. like what

even now u could buy a 5k pc with a 3090

[stoic island]

puget systems usually workstation things

like 3990x

what was the rest of the system?

[median inlet]

I just wanted everything to be around $1,000 - $1,100

[stoic island]

aib estimates then

[median inlet]

?

[stoic island]

aib -> add in board partners, non-founders edition cards

[median inlet]

Oh ok

[stoic island]

this'll do
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3Tw4d

[median inlet]

Thx but l really don’t like it

[muted patio]

Y

[median inlet]

Performance pretty good for my budget but don’t like the looks

[stoic island]

at least you know why

[median inlet]

Why because of my budget?

[stoic island]

performance for the budget

[violet crown]

Best TB storage for games downloaded from steam

[stoic island]

Wat

Are you asking about storage size or a drive reccomendation?

[white blaze]

PCIe 3 or PCIe4?

[stoic island]

for what

PCIe 4.0 drives are practically useless for most people

[white blaze]

Then why ask?

that's the only difference that matters

[stoic island]

?

Seq speeds aren't the only speeds that matter

[muted patio]

Sequential speeds are almost irrelevant other than number big

[stoic island]

And the only thing PCIe 4.0 drives are better at PCIe 3.0 drives at in general is seq

[hallow glen]

im not sure what the rest of the pc is lol

[muted patio]

P31 Gold is faster than quite a few 4.0 drives and it's 3.0

[desert gulch]

Ye

[stoic island]

@hallow glen Puget is all about making hedt machines so I would think that's a part of the pricing

[hallow glen]

ah ok. thats probably it

maybe ill see if i can get in contact with him

[stoic island]

for example

[violet crown]

Something to store GB of games on... not sure exactly

[stoic island]

if you're asking for a drive suggestion, what budget?

[desert gulch]

Yoooo you found a 3080 in stock??? Imma buy that rly quick then resell the system after I take 3080 lol

[stoic island]

lol

[violet crown]

$250ish maybe more

[stoic island]

that's a lot of monies

@violet crown how much do you think you'll store?

[violet crown]

Not sure I downloaded 2 games and its nearly filled up 1TB it seems

[stoic island]

Well, you could take a screenshot of your library or smth and I could give you an estimate

But if you want a lot more storage, maybe a WD black 6tb, if you want faster storage, probably a pilot e 2tb if you have another m.2 slot, mx500 2tb if you don't

[violet crown]

Well i don't even want 1 of the games death stranding was like 69gb thats why I'd rather store it on something so it doesn't bog down the desktop

[potent portal]

X300 4TB is on sale for $100 on newegg, 7200 rpm

[stoic island]

x300 has been 100$ for a while now afaik

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/toshiba-x300-hdwe140xzsta-4tb/p/N82E16822149627 + promo code 6DADSALE266 makes it $100

[stoic island]

but yea

x300 also good

I have a good, like 30 games, and I use around 1.5tb of storage total, including windows and other stuff.

[ruby sentinel]

Where do you guys get your windows keys?

[muted patio]

Ebay

[stoic island]

300gb on my steam library on my primary drive, 360gb on my steam library on my secondary drive, 190gb on epic games

not a lot of actual games

[ruby sentinel]

Thanks.

All sold out.

[ruby sentinel]

Hm?

[spiral flame]

I am building my first pc on the 12th

I am so excited

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fbK8t8 this is my list

[long fjord]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/HueTheDev/saved/#view=2DLHGX
My pic of this build is in the #build-pic channel.

[spiral flame]

damn that is insane what do you do?

lol when you spend 440 on fans

[cerulean basalt]

will i be able to manage a 3070ti off a 650w gold psu?

[spiral flame]

probably

[cerulean basalt]

ight

[long fjord]

@cerulean basaltYeah you should be good

[spiral flame]

but nvidia does recommend a 750

[cerulean basalt]

yea, i dont have one

and i just bought my psu so i dont want to buy another one

[spiral flame]

can you return it?

[spiral flame]

or you could sell it

[cerulean basalt]

i can....

but i dont want to

ive already had to return one

[spiral flame]

to keep your gpu safe it might be worth

[cerulean basalt]

yea true

[spiral flame]

a psu is a lot cheaper

[cerulean basalt]

idk ill decide... after i figure out if I can even get one

[spiral flame]

how are you trying?

[cerulean basalt]

i wanna order one tmrw but im not sure ill even get one

online, gonna sit on the website till it launches?

[spiral flame]

not to be rude but odds ar eyou won't get it

[cerulean basalt]

ye thats why im not super worried

i can manage for now but i have a chance at it

[long fjord]

@cerulean basalt Yeah, really hard to find.

[cerulean basalt]

so i wanted to try

[long fjord]

@cerulean basaltYour best bet is to try MicroCenter.

[spiral flame]

I was going to camp at microcenter but when I got there there were 3070's so I got that

[cerulean basalt]

i dont live by one

not anywhere close

unfortunately

[spiral flame]

I had to drive an hour fifteen but that isn't to bad

[cerulean basalt]

yea not close at all

[spiral flame]

that sucks

[cerulean basalt]

just was curious if i could try and manage if i some how get it

[spiral flame]

also even if you did they might have a line to long

[cerulean basalt]

ill return the psu, if I can get the card

[spiral flame]

yeah that would prob be best

[cerulean basalt]

originally i was just gonna get a 3060ti when they got restocked

[spiral flame]

yeah when lol

[cerulean basalt]

thats why my psu is lower watts

i wasnt planning on a higher card

[spiral flame]

yeah

[cerulean basalt]

ight, gn. ima be back bright and early tryna get it

[spiral flame]

good luck

[cerulean basalt]

thx :)

[spiral flame]

don't forget the newegg shuffle

[last fractal]

i need a good prebuilt from a trusted company

[long fjord]

@last fractalI saw a decent build in MicroCenter about 1month ago.

Not sure what they have now.

[spiral flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fbK8t8 how important are those notes at the bottom?

[last fractal]

is this good https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali479/p/N82E16883360074?Item=N82E16883360074

[spiral flame]

ram is kinda slow but it should be fine

[obsidian wigeon]

That prebuilt is decent

Snatch it quick lol

Also, hm, have you bought anything in that build list yet?

[spiral flame]

it is more than it should be but if it is in your price range and you don't want to wait a year it isn't bad

[obsidian wigeon]

And that note is that there's a chance you might need to update the bios

Some B550 boards came out before 5000 series existed

[spiral flame]

is the io ok

like front panel?

[obsidian wigeon]

Lemme check

Meh, not a problem if you don't use usb c

[spiral flame]

honestly no

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah, then it's safe to leave it unplugged

I think there's some stuff to make it work, I might have forgotten, but it's optional

[spiral flame]

later if I need it I can change my mobo 'cause I already have installed my cpu ram and ssd

before I have a case or cpu cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

Have you bought the psu yet? If not, I'd recommend changing it to revolution d.f, the evga psu is expensive

[spiral flame]

I bought it already it wasn't that much more

it was 105

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah, then it's not too bad

That build should be fine

[spiral flame]

isn't it a good psu?

[obsidian wigeon]

Maybe the bios needs an update, not sure

I mean, yeah

But generally it's expensive

[spiral flame]

will a 1400 work it is the right socket

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah, it should

[earnest olive]

b550 does not officially support ryzen 1000/2000

it might work, it might not

[obsidian wigeon]

However it's a gamble sadly

Maybe try finding 3000g

[earnest olive]

3000g not compatible either

3000g is zen 1

[obsidian wigeon]

huh

[earnest olive]

3200g/3400g not compatible either, they're zen+

[spiral flame]

well if the bios do need an update can I take it to microcenter will they do it?

I bought it there

[earnest olive]

only zen 2 and zen 3 are officially supported

[obsidian wigeon]

You can, yeah

[spiral flame]

ok that will be annoying but fine

[obsidian wigeon]

Try booting with the cpu in the mobo first

[spiral flame]

yeah I will

[obsidian wigeon]

If it does boot up then you don't need the update

No need to mount the cooler yet just to test real quick

[earnest olive]

my friend was actually able to get into bios on her b550 even though the bios version didn't support her 5600x

and she was able to do the bios update from within bios

[obsidian wigeon]

The cpu won't die, when it gets too hot it'll just shut off

[earnest olive]

i uh

would not recommend running it without the cooler

[spiral flame]

I don't have a cooler or case yet so can't but will on the 12th

[earnest olive]

just mount it without thermal paste

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah lmao

[earnest olive]

much better than no cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

i suppose

5600x is hot

[earnest olive]

i do boot tests with no thermal paste all the time, but no cooler is dangerous

[spiral flame]

my cooler might have pre applied thermal paste but I can use the stock to test

[earnest olive]

yeah thats fine

[spiral flame]

I am gonna wait for my case I think

the 4000d comes with 2 fans what are others I should get and how many?

[earnest olive]

arctic p12s are a good value option if you don't care about rgb

[obsidian wigeon]

RGB version exists too

Naturally costs more of course

[spiral flame]

no I don't really I just want the performance jump from my 570 and 1400

[obsidian wigeon]

Also make sure it's pwm version

non pwm sucks compared to pwm

less control

[spiral flame]

are the ones that come with the 4000d air flow ok

[earnest olive]

yeah

[spiral flame]

so how many do I need?

[earnest olive]

as many as you want

you're fine with just the included

but if you add 2 more to the front that would help

[spiral flame]

but idk how many I should get

[obsidian wigeon]

just looking at the case

[earnest olive]

id say 2-3 makes the most sense

[obsidian wigeon]

2 on front and 2 on top works

in my opinion

[spiral flame]

more or total

[earnest olive]

3 front intake then either 1 or 2 exhaust

2-3 more

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[spiral flame]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

the top will be exhaust

front is intake

[earnest olive]

honestly just run 2 unless you get a 3-pack or something

[obsidian wigeon]

cause hot air rises

[spiral flame]

yeah

I am so damn excited

[obsidian wigeon]

get 3 pack and you'll be gud

the arctics are nice in packs

might need a fan controller depending on how many 4 pin fan headers it has

the mobo i meant

[spiral flame]

it is going to be so much better than my current four year old mid-range prebuild

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, it definitely is

[spiral flame]

what is third gen ryzen 3000 or 5000

[obsidian wigeon]

3000

5000 is "4th" for non oem

[spiral flame]

oh it say 5000x ready

I am good

[obsidian wigeon]

the Mobo?

[spiral flame]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

If so, you're good

[spiral flame]

where on the box would it say how many fan headers it has?

[obsidian wigeon]

You need to check the manual

It can be found online or in the box

[spiral flame]

it says I only have two 4-pin chassis fan headers can I daisy chain those or do I need a hub?

[obsidian wigeon]

You can, if they're pwm pst edition

Arctic fans has that nice feature lel

If they're the version that has it

[spiral flame]

can you send a link?

if not I can prob find it

[obsidian wigeon]

You can find it easily

Arctic P12 pwm pst, smth like that

[spiral flame]

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-acfan00134a-case-fan/p/N82E16835186213?item=N82E16835186213&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-case+fans-_-N82E16835186213&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzYGGBhCTARIsAHdMTQy6fQHXl2B_Jh__m-mQNPijdGy1Uqq53DsMkLLbDngglKvEH0LNBekaAjsLEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

is that right

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes, that one

[spiral flame]

so can I chain three from one connector?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeup

[spiral flame]

and the ones that come with the case?

do you think I can chain those?

[spiral flame]

should I get 3?

or is 2 good?

[obsidian wigeon]

either works well

up to ya

[spiral flame]

do you think the fans that come with the case will be chainable?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

controller needed to put them all together i suppose

[spiral flame]

then do I need a hub or should I get 4 of these fans and only use them?

[obsidian wigeon]

oh yeah

you can do either of those two things

get a controller or replace em all with arctics

[spiral flame]

if four is enough I will get all arctic

[obsidian wigeon]

okay

[spiral flame]

is four enough?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

2 intake and 2 exhaust should do

like 2 for the front, 1 top and 1 rear

I also suggest daisy chaining em like this, front ones for one header, exhaust ones should be on other header

So it allows more control

[spiral flame]

getting the four fans is like the same price adn I think it will look better

is is ok if for a few days I run it with two fans?

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm, gonna look less empty

yeah, it's okay

the case is decent as is

add fans in and it's better that's just it

[spiral flame]

the others don't show up later that the case and I have the other stuff

i can't wait

I am so surprised I got a 3070

[obsidian wigeon]

nice upgrade indeed

[spiral flame]

yeah lowish end from 4 years ago to highish end now

[craggy veldt]

Question for everyone. I am building a custom PC with some of the parts from my current PC, an Alienware R11 and other new parts that I purchased as well. What speed of Ram would work best for me? Here is my list of parts that I have / ordered.
Intel Core I9-10900 KF
Asus rog strix Z490-E Motherboard
Corsair RM850X White
Asus Rog Strix 1080 TI
Corsair LL120 RGB Fans
Corsair H150i Elite CPU Cooler
1TB M.2 NVMe SSD
MetallicGear Neo Qube Case

I would like 32 gigs of ram, but not sure if ddr4-3200 or ddr4-3600 et cetera would work the best. Thanks!

[muted patio]

3600 C16

[spiral flame]

some how I got a 5600x new for $280

[craggy veldt]

Thanks vintageRacer79!

[muted patio]

YW

[spiral flame]

when I build my pc can someone help me set up my ssd and hdd I don't get it it will be a couple days but I am wondering if that would be possible?

[obsidian wigeon]

i could try if im available by then

[spiral flame]

it will be some time on the 12

that is when my amazon shipment arrives

[scenic turret]

Yep

Honestly there are tons of useful people here

Just send a message here and someone will help when available

[spiral flame]

yeah I don't get how to use both and what goes where or how to chose where it goes

[frank stirrup]

ping me

[spiral flame]

ok thanks

I like this server so much more than the other one I am in people aren't just rude for fun it is great

[ornate solstice]

Anyone know what’s wrong with my pc

Like do I need more power?

It crashes when playing warzone and then says wattman settings have been restored due to an unexpected system failure

[tight sorrel]

what are your PCs specs?

[frank stirrup]

wattman is the utility amd gpus use to make an OC persistant

[ornate solstice]

Umm a r7 3700x with a rx 5700xt

[frank stirrup]

if PC crashes, it detects that the OC might be unstable and reverts to defaults

[frank stirrup]

what OC you got on that

[ornate solstice]

I never changed it since I bought it idek how to check

[earnest olive]

what driver version

older driver versions had stability issues

update radeon software to latest recommended version

[ornate solstice]

Uhh how do check?

It says it’s up to date

[earnest olive]

did the pc crash or did the screen go black and come back

[ornate solstice]

Like my lights to my pc stay on but it goes all the way back to like pc is starting up

[earnest olive]

what power supply do you have

3700x and 5700xt is not very demanding on power supply

[jagged ember]

brand and wattage

[ornate solstice]

An antec neoeco gold 600w

[earnest olive]

should be fine

are you using one or two power cables to the 5700xt

[ornate solstice]

Uh it’s like a split cable if that makes sense

So one with two plugs

[jagged ember]

so one cable splits into two plugs

[ornate solstice]

Yeah exactly

[jagged ember]

mm, does the PSU have another power cable?

[ornate solstice]

Uhh yes

I’m pretty sure

[jagged ember]

running a single power cable might cause instability

[ornate solstice]

Okay so i should switch it to have separate cables then?

[jagged ember]

which might be the case here

[earnest olive]

use two cables yes

might be crashing on transient spike

your power supply is not that high end

just an average unit

[ornate solstice]

Okay let me change that rq

[spiral flame]

when I build my pc can I use one cable from a evga 750w psu to power a 3070?

[jagged ember]

whatever he says lol

[earnest olive]

so I wouldn't trust it to go that far above spec

[earnest olive]

you can try it, it should be fine

but there may be issues

[ornate solstice]

Dang now I have to redo my cable management

[earnest olive]

if there are issues just keep it in mind

[spiral flame]

it comes wit h2 should i use both or is there not a chance of breaking my gpu

[earnest olive]

it won't break

worst case it crashes

[spiral flame]

ok I'll try it cause if it works it will look a lot better

[earnest olive]

but yeah there's no point in not using 2 cables unless you're doing multi gpu with a psu that only has 2 cables

[ornate solstice]

Any recommendations on a cpu cooler?

[earnest olive]

I run a 3080 and 3070 on one cable each off of a 650w gold psu

but that's mining so they aren't running at full power

[earnest olive]

if you're concerned about looks just spend $20 on custom cables

[jagged ember]

vetroo v5, gammaxx 400

both good coolers

se xt 224 i think is what it's called

for ID cooling one

[spiral flame]

every day said it would break anything so kinda if it doesn't work I'll use two

[jagged ember]

Gelid phantom is good cooler too, aparently

[spiral flame]

why

[jagged ember]

stability important

[spiral flame]

if it won't break it what is wrong with seeing if is works

[earnest olive]

the funtin custom cables on amazon are actually pretty good

[jagged ember]

doesn't matter if pc looks good if it could be unstable

[earnest olive]

I bought two sets for $18 each

[jagged ember]

that's the way i see it

[earnest olive]

no problem running a 5700xt

5700xt and 3070 have similar power draw

[spiral flame]

the cables that it comes wit hlook fine

cause if it does it is an easy fix

and if it doesn't it looks better I don't why it is that bad

because the there are two extra connectors hanging around

[robust lake]

You mean use one cable that split to 2?

[earnest olive]

I mean neither of you are necessarily wrong

[spiral flame]

yes

[robust lake]

Its fine

[earnest olive]

just ziptie the extra connector into the back of the main cable

lemme see if I can find a picture example

[spiral flame]

I'm gonna try it if it doesn't work I'll change it

[earnest olive]

https://cdna.pcpartpicker.com/static/forever/images/userbuild/341035.e985cffc30c15c1367724245a8543581.1600.jpg

[robust lake]

The psu cable can handle 300 watts

[earnest olive]

see how the second part is ziptied to the first

just do that

[spiral flame]

I kinda do see all day

[scenic turret]

I'm weird then

[spiral flame]

I am getting a case with a class panel by the way

[earnest olive]

I look at my pc a lot

I wasted a lot of money making it pretty

I'm gonna look

[scenic turret]

If its on your desk, you go through a phase XD

[spiral flame]

lol me to

[earnest olive]

and no the pic I sent is not my personal build

[spiral flame]

what does that mean I just don't want it on carpet

[jagged ember]

eventually you'll stop looking at it

i think is what it means

[scenic turret]

I mean like if its beside you on your desk, your PC is kinda irresistible for a few months

[spiral flame]

for Christmas I am gonna get a 4k monitor I think or at least I want it

cause I only have 1080p right now

I might will see

[ornate solstice]

So any cooler recommendations?

[scenic turret]

^^^

3070 on 4k is ok

3070 is more 1440p focus

[ornate solstice]

I found them thank you

[spiral flame]

ok

[scenic turret]

Have 1440p 144hz rn, never going back to 1080p lol

[spiral flame]

how much were you able to get it for?

[robust lake]

3070 can do 4k 60 fps on some games but 1440p looks good too

[scenic turret]

My 3070 was $588USD ish

Although it was FE

[scenic turret]

Ye, but you want higher fps so 1440p is the sweet spot

[spiral flame]

I got an evga for 640

usd

[robust lake]

Shouldnt a fe cost 500

[scenic turret]

Nah you got the best 3070, EVGA FTW3 Ultra

[robust lake]

588 after taxes?

[spiral flame]

it is the best?

[robust lake]

Oh ok

We all have vat-_-

[scenic turret]

588 with Canadian tax

[robust lake]

[scenic turret]

That and the Strix 3070

Arguably the best

[ornate solstice]

So I plugged in the second cable it crashed again

[spiral flame]

it was the cheapest of the three at microcenter

[ornate solstice]

AntecEco 600w gold

[scenic turret]

Any 3070 is pretty good, as long as its not zotac or MSI ventus series

You have EVGA, ultimate customer service and well built card

[spiral flame]

why are those bad?

[robust lake]

I wouldnt pay more for a strix over ftw3/xc3 tbh

[scenic turret]

Ventus was poorly designed

bad thermals

worst than FE

yep

[spiral flame]

I also got an evga 750w psu

[scenic turret]

they used cheaper dies and such

[ornate solstice]

Antec neoeco gold 600w

[scenic turret]

Same but 850W

[robust lake]

600w might be the problem

For a 3070

[spiral flame]

it was on sale for 100

the psu

[scenic turret]

nice

[ornate solstice]

I don’t have 3070

[scenic turret]

I paid full like a dummy

twins

[robust lake]

Oh so which card

[ornate solstice]

5700xt

[spiral flame]

I have a gt 750

[scenic turret]

lol

[spiral flame]

psu

y?

ok

[robust lake]

600w should be fine for a 5700xt then. Does it crash only during games/stress test?

[ornate solstice]

Only cod for some reason

[robust lake]

Did you oc?

[ornate solstice]

Sometimes I’m able to play then other times I can’t

[robust lake]

Cod is not so stable

[ornate solstice]

And no I don’t think so

[robust lake]

When oc

[spiral flame]

what is a good over clocking soft ware for the 3070

[ornate solstice]

Idek how to oc

[robust lake]

Try to do some stress test like 3d mark time spy and see if you crash there too

[scenic turret]

yee COD and Destiny are horribly optimized

[jagged ember]

cod optimization trash

i couldn't even get it to display recently

so i just uninstalled it and im never playing again

[robust lake]

They just update the game every day and dont fix anything

[jagged ember]

doesn't even deserve HDD space anymore

they just add new content lol

new gun, new assets

new skins

but new fixes? nah

miss me with that

they took away a bunch of storage earlier on just to add it back on later

[scenic turret]

i need storage

FS2020 took alot

[jagged ember]

FS is actually worth tho

and they just reduced the size to 80gb

[scenic turret]

Maybe WD Black 1tb SSD for a second gaming drive

[jagged ember]

well, 'just'

lol just get a 4tb drive

ez

[scenic turret]

HDD or SSD

[jagged ember]

hdd

[scenic turret]

cause I kinda want SSDs still

[jagged ember]

mm

[scenic turret]

I can get both ngl

[jagged ember]

i think 4tb ssd exist

[scenic turret]

3tb is probably the highest i go

rn I have 1.5tb combined for my m.2s

[jagged ember]

lol imagine mx500 that has 4tb

[scenic turret]

thats broken af

[obsidian wigeon]

i would just go cheap and get a dramless ssd that's that big xd

[scenic turret]

Lmaoooooo

[obsidian wigeon]

cause it's game drive

or storage

[jagged ember]

SN550

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[scenic turret]

Not m.2

sata

My m.2s are filled

unless i use my extension card

[jagged ember]

but if i get another m.2 my fake 16x slot is disabled

:(

[earnest olive]

I don't think cod cw is poorly optimized

[scenic turret]

which i can hook up another m.2 (spare 970evo plus)

[jagged ember]

warzone tho...

[earnest olive]

I ran it at 1440p 180 fps dlss off no problem with 3600x 3080

the same pc struggled to hit 80 fps in valhalla

with drops to 40

now that's poorly optimized

at high, not even ultra

hmm maybe

[jagged ember]

one day it really just stopped working

[earnest olive]

I have no real interest in cod, I just played a bot match to try rtx and dlss

so I wouldn't know if it just crashes

[jagged ember]

i tried anything short of reinstall to fix

then warzone go bye bye

[earnest olive]

but in terms of hardware utilization I'd say it's well optimized

[scenic turret]

That hurts

[jagged ember]

jeesus

[scenic turret]

yee

[jagged ember]

oh

[scenic turret]

still expensive

[jagged ember]

true

[scenic turret]

same price as my monitor

[jagged ember]

pfft

frustration free package? more like no packaging

[scenic turret]

And its on sale

[jagged ember]

no, the box causes frustration

must be just the drive

SSDs are durable anyways

you wish

[ornate solstice]

Nah they just gonna put a stamp on it and send it through mail

[jagged ember]

he yeet it from the truck onto your porch

[scenic turret]

And make sure the delivery guy has a mini fight with UPS or the Fedex delivery guy

[scenic turret]

lol

[jagged ember]

delivery truck jousting!

a friendly alternative to their amazen booths

or whatever they're called

[ionic haven]

what are ya’ll opinions on curved monitors? i’m thinking of getting a 30” monitor but the most i can find are curved and ive only been using a flat 27”. it’s gonna be my main monitor if ever i get one. should i try out a curve or keep looking for flat

[ornate solstice]

I didn’t crash

[robust lake]

then cod might be the problem

[jagged ember]

Verify files

Try reinstall gpu drivers

[potent portal]

Curved is good but it limits your viewing angle. If you're not going to be looking at it straight on from the right distance (varies by amount of curve) then flat might be better for you. Personally, I love gaming on my curved 27".

[tight sorrel]

I am averse to curved. So I got myself a 32" flat 1440p. I am seeing a lot more screens with that specification, and I am all for it

[obsidian wigeon]

Curved gives more immersion

Especially if it's an ultrawide

[ionic haven]

i was thinking of getting this one tbh ( its almost $600 )

[ionic haven]

i never had a curved monitor or normal tv so i can't really spit hate on it.

[robust lake]

Im using a 32 inch curved 1800r and its nice

Its a small curve

[ionic haven]

well i'll be def sitting right infront of it unless i wanna watch something some youtube video or netflix on it, then im just angled alittle bit to the right but most of the time i'm straight looking into the screen

[robust lake]

600$ for a monitor is expensive tho

[potent portal]

You might like it then, and if you end up hating it you could refund it

I wouldn't do more than $450 on a high refresh 1440p like that personally, but I don't know how the stock situation is in your country. You can always check pcparpartpicker, they have localized sites.

[ionic haven]

yeah i was kinda against it cause of the price but anything that was abit lower had less refresh rate. i'll try pc picker! thanks. but if my pc specs were
cpu: intel i7-4820k
gpu: r9 390
mobo: msi x79a-gd45
it's fine for that right? cause i had one friend tell me its too powerful of a monitor

[robust lake]

R9 390 wont be good for 1440p

[potent portal]

Getting a higher resolution monitor is fine, it'll still do 1080p and you'll have the good monitor for later when you upgrade

[robust lake]

But if you plan to upgrade gpu its fine

[spiral flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qKf7NP what do I have not marked as purchased?

[obsidian wigeon]

the psu

[spiral flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WdK8t8 this it the pc I'm building plus my old 1t hhd

[fossil cedar]

Nice

[tight sorrel]

tasty tasty system

[icy kestrel]

Can someone help me build a 1200 budget pc

[fossil cedar]

List ? Or prebuilt

Fyi v hard to get graphics cards atm

[icy kestrel]

List

[fossil cedar]

Do you want any features like wifi etc?

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TLvKt8 3060/3060 ti/3070 if you're lucky

[ionic haven]

i decided to choose a smaller monitor but higher hz, its almost $500 i think. what do u guys think?:)

[robust lake]

M27q is great

[fossil cedar]

M27q is great but 500$ is quite expensive for it, it's usually 300-400 depending on region but pc parts might just be expensive in your country

[spiral flame]

I am testing if my bios are good how do I start a pc with out a case button?

[fossil cedar]

Find the power pins on the bottom of the motherboard and short the power pins with a screwdriver

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[spiral flame]

I know I have 3600 hz why is this what is showing?

[muted patio]

DOCP right below that

Change it to 3600

[static ravine]

enable DOCP

and enter 3600

like vintage said

[spiral flame]

What are the it says profile 1 where do I input 3600?

[muted patio]

Shouldn't need to input a speed

Just choose one

Then save and exit

[spiral flame]

Does that look right?

[muted patio]

ya

[spiral flame]

Can someone join VC and help me config my bios?

[muted patio]

That's all you need to do

Turn on DOCP

and go

[spiral flame]

Is the stock fan curve good if I'm use a scythe cpu cooler

[muted patio]

Should be fine

[spiral flame]

Ok cool my bios work for my cpu

I am gonna get my case tomorrow so I'll build it then

[muted patio]

You might wanna consider updating to 2006 BIOS for the USB issue

So you don't run into it

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/PRIME-B550M-A/HelpDesk_BIOS/

[spiral flame]

What is the USB issues

[muted patio]

USB devices will drop out and require a restart to work again

[spiral flame]

Oh that happens on my computer I think sometimes my mic just stops working

@muted patio will it work to power my GPU with one of the split like two plug cables?

[muted patio]

It's best not to but it will work

[wicked frigate]

Is there a way I can delete all my drivers and windows 10

And redo it

[little osprey]

,ddu

[spiral flame]

Can it mess anything up or does it just cause instability?

[little osprey]

for graphics drivers

oh this isn’t bapo lol

i’m dumb

[little osprey]

why wouldn’t you use both cables, also it will work but it’s better to have sufficient power output

[sharp temple]

I want to build a new PC and I have the Lenovo Legion C530 and it is 3-4 years old with a AMD Radeon RX 570 should I wait a million years for a 30 series or just change over the 570 to the new system and upgrade later?

[little osprey]

keep your 570 and build a system around that

[spiral flame]

if it would work it would look better but if it doesn't i don't care

[little osprey]

it will work yes
what graphics card tho?

[spiral flame]

3070

evga

[little osprey]

you should prob have all cables plugged in

[spiral flame]

ok

[little osprey]

it will turn on yes but under load it may not work because of insufficient power output 🤺

under heavy load i should specify

[sharp temple]

Can someone else give me feedback

[spiral flame]

why

[muted patio]

Same advice, build the PC while you try and get a GPU

[spiral flame]

idk your budget but you can enter the newegg shuffle

[sharp temple]

Already did

[spiral flame]

good

[sharp temple]

But my GPU budget is under 500

[spiral flame]

ok so just have to wait for when those show up

[ionic haven]

i live in the philippines thats prob why but i think i will go with the m27q! thanks, i was debating cause the other was msi and idk gigabyte but everyone said its okay. even doe the reviews are saying theres dead pixels

[obsidian wigeon]

Dead pixels can happen, but rarely

Defects happens sometimes and it's normal

I wouldn't use that as a reason to worry about unless literally half out of all people has the problem

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's v nice monitor

[ionic haven]

do u have that monitor or u just saw reviews?

[fossil cedar]

I don't have it but reviews are

[stoic island]

Many people have the monitor and there are many reviews

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q

[ionic haven]

thank u appreciate it 🙂

i wasnt sure about it despite seeing reviews cause there was negativity about it and like i said im unfamiliar with gigabyte

[cold sorrel]

I have an MSI G241 I bought last year. I originally was gonna build a new PC then, but then the great GPU shortage happened. Came in handy when my laptop screen decided to die.

[static ravine]

rip

[stoic island]

There's a good few people in this server that has a M27q too, I just can't remember who

@ionic haven well, gigabyte is a very big components manufacturer

[static ravine]

Im not a fan of MOST gigabyte products however some of their monitors are pretty good

M27Q good display

[stoic island]

I mean

Gigabyte is like 50-50

Bad to good

But they're big

And able to fulfill RMAs

[fossil cedar]

They make some nice mobos tbf

[cold sorrel]

I still need to finish my new PC build. I have the parts, I just kind of stalled out. I may be a master of procrastination.

[static ravine]

yea

[stoic island]

Tbh other than p-gm, gigabyte didn't do anything else major wrong

Thermal pads are just a small detail

[fossil cedar]

And that's only a worry on the 3080/ti/90

[stoic island]

Not even a worry unless you're mining or similar

[fossil cedar]

Exactly

[cold sorrel]

And hey, a 24-inch 1080p monitor is just fine for the 3060 I won in the shuffle.

[stoic island]

Yee

[fossil cedar]

1440p is only really for 27" and up anyway

[ionic haven]

i mean ik about the pc parts but not as a monitor

[little osprey]

especially their Z590’s

[stoic island]

MSI usually has the Intel boards that catch my eyes for VRMs tho

[fossil cedar]

I think their b550/x570 boards are better tbh but am sure they decent

[desert gulch]

Lmfao no the msi x570s have horrible horrible vrms

As in even some b550s have better vrms than them

[fossil cedar]

Was talking bout gigabyte

[desert gulch]

Oh lol I saw msi up there and thought you were talking bout them

[stoic island]

I was referring to how every single MSI z590 board had good VRMs, even the a pro,

[earnest olive]

z490-a pro was very good for a budget board as well

[stoic island]

ya

So I like MSI for Intel boards

[sharp temple]

So I should upgrade from a Lenovo Legion C530 to a new system with an i5-11600k and the same Radeon RX 570?

[spiral flame]

it was just on my desk and kinda janky but Posted on the first computer I ever build

[stoic island]

Who cares about jank, if it works, it works.

[spiral flame]

yeah

My Case comes tomorrow so that is when I can fully build it

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the cpu you have now

[sharp temple]

i5-8400

[fossil cedar]

I would upgrade to an i5 11400 and b560

[sharp temple]

Why 11400?

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Well there's not much point in 11600k unless you want to overclock, also it's cheaper and you don't need a 60-70$ cooler, a 30$ one will do for the 11400

[sharp temple]

I would like to overclock (at least a bit)

[fossil cedar]

Also you need a more expensive motherboard for 11600k but okay, just make sure you have enough wattage on your psu lol because usually prebuilts are not generous with their psus

[sharp temple]

Yeah I already wanted to get a more expensive Mobo. And I'm getting 700w PSU

[fossil cedar]

And make sure you got room in your case if still using the same case

[sharp temple]

I'm getting all new parts except for the GPU

[fossil cedar]

Ahh fair

You could always wait for 12th gen if you want but yeah 11600k and a z590 with probably new ram

[earnest olive]

might as well get 5600x instead of 11600k they're practically the same price but b550 cheaper than z590

[cold sorrel]

I'm kicking myself a little that I bought my 5600x before the price went down.

[scenic turret]

Same....

At launch though

Big flex

[vagrant olive]

same

bought a b550 mobo and a 5600x back in december 😭

[fossil cedar]

idk why you cry still the fastest gaming cpu for 300$ lol

[hardy grotto]

It won't be in the bargain bin for sure. 5600x is solid.

[last fractal]

Is this good https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali479/p/N82E16883360074?Item=N82E16883360074

[frank stirrup]

no

not at that price

[last fractal]

what is a good prebuilt from a trusted company

2500 dollors and under

gaming

[fossil cedar]

That's a decent price tbf

The prices have gone up

[frank stirrup]

10700f and a 3070 goes for 1750 US?!

DAMN

[hallow glen]

that is a good price ngl

[last fractal]

WHAT IS A GOOD PREBUILT 2500 DOLLORS AND UNDER FROM A TRUSTED COMPANY

[frank stirrup]

whats the conversion from dollor to dollar again?

[fossil cedar]

If that's in stock i would get

[spiral flame]

when I put my hhd into my new build what should I transfer to my ssd vs leaving, my hhd is in my current pc

[fossil cedar]

did you do a fresh install of windows yeah?

windows should be on your ssd

[gritty skiff]

@little osprey is a scam bot

[spiral flame]

I haven't done anything yet

[fossil cedar]

reinstall windows onto your ssd then

[spiral flame]

I'll do that once I Finnish the build in the case

[frank stirrup]

yems

[spiral flame]

what else should I put on it, it is a 1t ssd

[fossil cedar]

What is?

[spiral flame]

my new ssd

[fossil cedar]

You can't move the stuff over to your ssd without installing windows first, windows wipes your drive when install

[spiral flame]

that is fine nothing is on it

[fossil cedar]

Then why are you asking what you should move over before installing windows?

[spiral flame]

idk how it works so I was confused

can I transfer my activated windows from my hhd to my ssd?

[frank stirrup]

Yes you can

You can clone the entire disk

[little osprey]

can anyone recommend a good 240 hz monitor 24'

[timber dragon]

Guess I should start looking for an APU if those exist

[little osprey]

thats a monitor problem..

[timber dragon]

I changed monitors and I still got the same thing

[little osprey]

fr? doesnt seem like a gpu problem

[timber dragon]

Granted they were the same brand but yeah

Even used different cable and same thing

I assume APUs are hard to find at this rate

[ionic haven]

can you guys give me some tips on how to clean ur pc, reminder i’m a huge noob and never cleaned it before ( like me i never cleaned ) i’m scared ill break it somehow

[timber dragon]

Air can helps

[earnest olive]

buy a compressed air can

get some alcohol wipes and gloves

discharge static electricity from your body by touching grounded metal (ex. doorknob, table) before putting hands inside pc

turn it off before messing around inside if you don't know what you're doing

that's about it

[ionic haven]

last question, sorry if i'm annoying. but has anyone bought a refurbished item from newegg? is it safe or okay?