building-and-recc-chat

[hearty pine]

Just upgrade the motherboard

And get a hard drive

[vocal solar]

YO

Rate my build

[whole sand]

go ahead

[clever vigil]

but ssds are faster

[vocal solar]

11900K, 32GB ram, 6900XT!

@whole sand good?

[whole sand]

what about mainboard and power?

any cooler you are using?

[vocal solar]

MSI and EVGA 😉

ARCTIC cooling

$2000usd!

Such a good gaming pc

[whole sand]

sure, guess good enough!

[earnest olive]

yeah i bet that can run maplestory pretty smoothly

[vocal solar]

Already bough the GPU for $980usd

Rest of the PC is $1000usd

[whole sand]

I know, GPU is so pricey now

what is power watt you are using

[earnest olive]

$980 for a 6900xt is really cheap

[vocal solar]

750W

[whole sand]

oh, what are you using?

[vocal solar]

?

Computer

[whole sand]

that is ok I guess.

what game you are playing?

[vocal solar]

Not playing a game rn

[whole sand]

ok what are you doing with com mostly?

[vocal solar]

Playing video games

[whole sand]

oh such as?

[vocal solar]

Roblox

[whole sand]

yeah

[vocal solar]

I'm so excited the 11900K is such a big upgrade over my 3960X

[whole sand]

which one you are playing in Roblox

[vocal solar]

heaps

I play more games too

My 3960X is so slow now

So exctied for the 11900K

[whole sand]

you mean AMD 3960X?

[vocal solar]

There is an AMD one? NO I mean intel

[whole sand]

oh

intel

right

[vocal solar]

AMD is garbage

[whole sand]

haha

[plush wigeon]

imagine buying a 6900xt for Roblox...

[lyric thistle]

the 11900K is a sad chip

[vocal solar]

I play mroe games too

[whole sand]

11900K is more than enough for Roblox

[scenic turret]

11900k is probably the worst valued cpu for the market rn

Rather wait for Alder Lake

[plush wigeon]

6900xt is a little much just for gaming

[vocal solar]

That's what they said about the titan x, but I'm only upgrading now after 6 years

[whole sand]

it is about money. we can't buy all the top tier stuff. That should be ok and big upgrade for you I guess.

[clever eagle]

help

[lyric thistle]

help what

[clever eagle]

its somehow over 5ghz and i think its gonna blow up

[lyric thistle]

oh well

[scenic turret]

Eh that's fine lol

Silicon lottery

Unless you OCed

[native sentinel]

Ok, i want to split the following over 2 12-15u racks. How do you fine folks think i should do it?

6u of ups (3 is actually ups, other 3 is extra batteries on a short cable), 1u server, soon to be 3u LTO library, 2 3u computers in matching cases, 1u KVM, 1u switch, 1u patch panel

[clever eagle]

its the 5800x

[whole sand]

did you overclock?

check your CPU speed in BIOS

[scenic turret]

Yea some 5800x can be lucky on cpu speed lol. It's called silicon lottery. Some 5000s series (golden CPUs) come out of box with 5GHZ capability

[clever eagle]

wait rly

[scenic turret]

Yep

You got extremely lucky on the silicon lottery

[clever eagle]

i did not win the silicon lottery
that was very rare, usually it just gets locked on 4.79ghz as a glitch but this time it skyrocketed

[scenic turret]

Weird

Could be possible

[clever eagle]

my cpu is usually about 4.2 to 4.6ghz

[lyric thistle]

most CPUs clock higher at idle

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[scenic turret]

It is what it is

[clever eagle]

yes

[ancient wraith]

is this bad

[lyric thistle]

for what

is this a hard drive?

[earnest olive]

normal for a hard drive

[whole sand]

it is D drive. if it is Hard Disk for storing data. it seems normal as expected

recommend to use SSD for OS which is much faster

[whole sand]

if you want to go one more level up

[meager badge]

And if you want one more, 980 pro 😄

[sterile apex]

Hi! I just finished with the tech source how to build a pc video, he said you might one need to buy a usb 3.2 hub extension, board he was using, he had 2 of them, and the one I’m using for a friend rn is the aorus elite ax2 which has 1 only. Do we need a hub extension? They are going to be using a headset, mouse and keyboard

[jagged ember]

If it's just for keyboard, mouse and headset

A usb2.0 will be fine

No need a usb3.2 hub for simple peripherals

And also, if your cables are long enough you won't even need a hub

Just route them directly to the rear io

[meager nacelle]

Is a DDR4 3600 and 18 CAS Latency good for ram?

[obsidian wigeon]

ew

that's trash

c16 is better

[frank stirrup]

3600CL18 is fine but I would go for C16

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

i mean it's fine, but optimally

c16 all the way

[meager nacelle]

Alright, i'll try to find a better stick of ram, thanks 😄

[frank stirrup]

CL18 3600 is basically an overpriced 3200c16 kit overclocked to 3600c18 with a price bump

[frank stirrup]

Look for G.SKILL ripjaws V or crucial ballistix

they do be very nice

[frank stirrup]

Its fine

I personally run 3600C18

Thogh granted that its a 3200C16 kit overclocked to 3600C18 manually

Still beats 3200C16 tho

[meager nacelle]

Ah ok, so c16 is just better and cheaper?

[frank stirrup]

Nah look more mt/s number good lower cl number good

3600C18 cheaper but 3600C16 better

because cl is basically CAS Latency

and more latency is never a good thing

[meager nacelle]

lol brb.. someone just crashed into my house

[frank stirrup]

Bruh okay

[meager nacelle]

They hit the speed bump going 50 and lost control

So as you were saying?

[fossil cedar]

Nah usually cl16 kits are cheaper than the cl18 kits they look at cuz it's usually a Corsair rgb kit r sum vs ballistix

[lyric thistle]

send pics

[meager nacelle]

alr

its dark outside and theres few street lights so you might not see much :/

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880
thats 3600c16

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232882
thats 3600c18

But yeah rgb ram overpriced

[meager nacelle]

theres another car toward my house but i dont want to show my address lol

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232491
c16

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728
c18

[meager nacelle]

yikes, 164 bucks for ram

[lyric thistle]

well

it is trident z rgb

[frank stirrup]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236485
C16

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236551
C18

[lyric thistle]

[frank stirrup]

I was just talking to pato

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but usually they aint lookin at the same kit

[meager nacelle]

Wow they got here fast

[lyric thistle]

rip

[meager nacelle]

Thanks for the help with the ram

[frank stirrup]

@meager nacelle
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232880

I recommend that kit

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix cheaper

[meager nacelle]

what do you think about the Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4B (Black)

[fossil cedar]

Very good

[frank stirrup]

I personally prefer ripjaws but ballistix also very nice

[fossil cedar]

Better imo cuz cheaper

[fossil cedar]

I mean basically same to me and ballistix cheaper so

[frank stirrup]

Fair

I love how ripjaws look so its worth the 5$ extra for me

[meager nacelle]

Nah, idrc about looks or rgb

just trying the most bank for buck and stay as cheap as i can

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix 2x8gb 3600cl16 then

[meager nacelle]

Yep i took your word for it... got it in the cart

I would say this is the last question but idk yet

[fossil cedar]

Yw

[little osprey]

ESD damaged CPU lol

[meager badge]

Auch

Nasty

So building a PC is not really that bullet proof.

[meager badge]

Is that fixable? I was going to install my CPU alone, but that makes me think again.

[little osprey]

Needed new cpu

lol i was working with it on carpet

stupid decision on my end

[meager badge]

Wtf that's awful

I usually am on the carpet too when doing anything in a PC :))

"Leave your PSU cable connected (but switch the unit off) to keep it grounded." well at least I am doing this 😄

Question, does that mean to also switch the PSU off with the PSU button? EDIT: Turn the PSU button off too. Solved.

Or only shut down the pc.

[hazy venture]

would it be possible to build a pc around a graphics card?

[fossil cedar]

Dw it's hard to bend your pins just line it up drop it in and give a lil wiggle to make sure it's in right

[fossil cedar]

Put it up on a table or use wooden floor just incase

[fossil cedar]

Ehh do you mean physically surrounding the graphics card or as in you already have a graphics card/want a certain graphics card for your build?

1st one possibly-ish 2nd one yeah

[mortal whale]

Hello

I'm building a pc around motherboard intel D865GBF and I'm wondering if graphics card GEForce 6200 PCI is compatible

[fossil cedar]

They are extremely old parts btw i wouldn't

[mortal whale]

I know lol. they are required for a customer of mine who uses a very old software

[fossil cedar]

I see

Ehh see if pcpartpicker.com works with hardware that, has a compatibly filter

[mortal whale]

thanks man

[versed rock]

I'd bet Linux is the solution. Wine tends to deal with old as balls software pretty well.

[dusky wedge]

I might need some help building an entry level PC under 2-3k

[stoic island]

GPU will be fun

[dusky wedge]

Yeaaaaa but I have a buddy who has a 1060 he can give me soon

So that should hopefully cover that

[stoic island]

1060 for a 2k-3k budget...

[dusky wedge]

He doesn’t use it anymore so it’s just been sitting

[stoic island]

At least it'd serve as a temporary gpu

[dusky wedge]

Yea

Far as I know 1060 ain’t too shabby

Other than that can I maybe get some help

[stoic island]

What'll it be used for

[versed rock]

Also 2K - 3K What currency?

[dusky wedge]

USD

And specifically gaming

[versed rock]

And you are calling that entry level?

Jeez

[dusky wedge]

For what I can afford yea

But I’m not gonna buy the most expensive thing I see if that makes any sense

I just know a 1k budget isn’t realistic

[stoic island]

Uh

[versed rock]

It uhh

Kinda is.

[stoic island]

You might be overestimating a bit how much a PC costs

[dusky wedge]

I might be tbh

[stoic island]

Entry level is generally. 1000-1500

[dusky wedge]

Considering the cost of parts

[stoic island]

High end is generally 2000+

[dusky wedge]

I’m just trying to be able to run Overwatch at most

[stoic island]

It'll be simple

[dusky wedge]

I think the most intensive games I wanna play are Overwatch and Valorant

[stoic island]

If you don't count the cost of the 1060, you can prob get that done with 600$

[versed rock]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QjWK9N I forwent adding a GPU since you are getting that 1060

IDK a lot about Intel Motherboards, I'm sure there's a better MB

[stoic island]

I'd make some changes but eh

I'm on mobile

[versed rock]

And I'm sure there's a cheaper PSU for the performance.

[dusky wedge]

I’ll take a look in a sec

[versed rock]

But, that will EASILY play Overwatch and Valorant (and probably OW2)

[dusky wedge]

Awesome

[stoic island]

My edit:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JMwCXb

11400 having a iGPU is neat for various reasons, fuma 2 or se-224-xt is your choice but I believe se-224-xt is enough. B560 board because it won't be OCing anyways, ram change because ballistix is neat. Storage wise, you could always add another hdd later, I believe 1tb NVMe drive will be enough to start off. Better PSU.

Kinda want to change the case because of pricing but eh

[dusky wedge]

It’s a great build

And fits my needs

Excuse my ignorance but what is the difference between a Ryzen and Intel?

[obsidian wigeon]

Ryzen atm is more expensive

And in 11th gen, the i5 and i7 offers similar perf to r5 and r7 respectively

AMD's mid-end segment got their lead taken back by Intel basically

[dusky wedge]

Gotcha

So Intel is cheaper and has similar performance, gotcha gotcha

[obsidian wigeon]

The i9 11900K sucks tho lel, but basically yes

[meager badge]

I will decide soon if I am going to ruin the PC or I will let another one do the same 😄

[queen dagger]

anyone have a good idea for a case which can support a 9 5900x and a 3080? as in the temps and the size of the 3080, which is 299.97 mm/ 11.81''

[meager badge]

Be quiet 802 silent base?

[muted patio]

My P500A keeps things nice and cool

$109 for the non-RGB version

[meager badge]

Way better than my SB 802, and cheaper 😄

[muted patio]

My 3070 under benchmarking is 65 C

You can vert mount too

Although the vert mount does cost another $30, just a heads up

[queen dagger]

what would you say are the perks and drawbacks of the P500A?

[meager badge]

You can also vert mount in my 802, but it's more expensive.

[muted patio]

Ya

Drawbacks? No RGB unless you get the $130 version. Cable management is fantastic, comes with screws pre-sorted for you in a compartmented tray, airflow is excellent, I got nothing bad to say about it

[meager badge]

My choices were a phanteks or a silent base 😄 It was a tough choice. Both are great.

[queen dagger]

alright thanks

[queen dagger]

and thoughts on this? https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0?Item=1HU-0042-000R0&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-6zrc5PczxqP.pX6q3hUWFw

[muted patio]

You can fit a 420mm rad in the front, 360mm rad in the top too. both at the same time as well

[queen dagger]

gawd damn thats a damn huge link

[muted patio]

One of the best 850W PSU's you can get, buy it

[queen dagger]

and that should be able to handle a 3080 with the sudden power draws?

[muted patio]

OH yeah

without issue

[queen dagger]

thoughts on this list in general? it is subject to change. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v7MyPV

[muted patio]

Any particular reason for the Deskstar?

I remember those being nicknamed DeathStars

Not sure if that has changed or not

[queen dagger]

ive heard from a freind that their good drives but does run hot, thats one of the things im not quiet sure about

[muted patio]

It's a bit more money but I have one of these and can say it's a great drive. https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Performance-Desktop-Internal-HDWE140XZSTA/dp/B013JPKUU2

Right now it's 31C in my case

[queen dagger]

ive heard good things about toshiba

[muted patio]

The hot one is my external backup drive

[queen dagger]

anything else you feel is out of place?

[muted patio]

Nope

That's the only questionable thing I saw

[queen dagger]

aight

also, should i switch the mobo to x570? thats the big thing i wasnt sure about

[muted patio]

Not necessary

B550 just fine

In quite a few cases, better than some X570 boards

[queen dagger]

isnt the main advantage of a x570 is PCIe 4.0??

[muted patio]

The main advantage of X570 is dual PCI-E 4.0 M.2 slots

But you won't notice between Gen 3 and Gen 4 drives for most use cases

Gen 4 drives right now are just a good way to empty your wallet XD

[queen dagger]

fair

last question, do you think the cooler would be alright for the 5900x, or should i change that? i always like to be sure

[muted patio]

That's one of the better air coolers for sure. Stepping up to an AIO isn't a whole lot more money if you want to dabble in water cooling.

This isn't the most beautiful AIO but the offset CPU block mount for Ryzen makes it one of the best cooling solutions available outside of making your own loop. https://smile.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07WNJCVNW

[queen dagger]

what would be better? temps and sound correct? or at least for most

[muted patio]

Temps yes

SOund most likely yes

[queen dagger]

also, doesnt water tear away at the radiator? i have a friend that always says that

[muted patio]

No

That AIO should last 7-10 years

Before needing replaced

[queen dagger]

or at least the tubing

[muted patio]

They don't actually have water in them

And no, that's not how they work. Your friend is misinformed

[queen dagger]

ah

[muted patio]

The only two risks are evaporation over time and the pump failing. However, connected to the CPU_FAN header, it will warn you if the pump fails just like a CPU fan

[queen dagger]

and is this what you have, or is it something you think is great?

[worldly sierra]

Love this aio

[muted patio]

I think for any high end CPU an AIO should be considered. for aesthetics as well as cooling. But there's nothing wrong with a good air cooler

Especially for the cost of a good air cooler like the NOctua NHD15 and DR Pro 4, a step up to an AIO is kind of a minimal investment. But some people aren't comfortable with water so...... it's up to you.

[queen dagger]

if the chance of a lemon more common with an AIO?

aka dead on arrival

[muted patio]

IMO, not really

They're tested just like everything else.

Which means you can get a DOA just like anything else

[hazy venture]

as in already have a graphics card. i have a radeon rx 580. i bought it thinking it would work in my pc.

[meager badge]

part picker, add your components, and you will get warnings

[fossil cedar]

Good luck X)

[fossil cedar]

Unless your pc is 10/15+ years old it will work with it yeah

[steep basalt]

15+ is more accurate. At 10 years, it'd still be doable.

2011 had some CPUs that are still viable in many cases.

[hazy venture]

its a hp pavilion gaming desktop. it does not have enough wattage to run the graphics card.

[versed rock]

Then slap a new PSU in it and call it a day.

If you can't do that, then slap the motherboard in a new case (as long as it isn't a proprietary motherboard layout)

[obsidian wigeon]

Haha

Knowing HP, none of that are ATX

rip upgrades

[jagged ember]

Imagine it's also got a load bearing cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

I almost picked an HP prebuilt up due to how desperate and tired I got from looking for gpus

Then Asus came to my rescue

It's.. not perfect but for a prebuilt from an oem? It's good

Lenovo is king of prebuilts atm, but they're rare like diamond

[little osprey]

Is 165hz a big difference from 144hz?

[muted patio]

Not really

IMO, no

[little osprey]

Ok

But it's like 20$ more so not really that bad if I buy it

[muted patio]

Depends on if it changes other specs like panel type, response time, etc. If the specs are identical, no harm in it other than losing $20

[little osprey]

hi vintage

[muted patio]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-wave-hi-gif-8704755

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T4kvGq

Is this the best price preformance

[frank stirrup]

No

I would get an arctic freezer II 280mm aio

Non rgb crucial ballistix ram

a non asrock board

everything else looks good tho

corsair 4000d airflow also better iirc for cheaper as well

[fossil cedar]

Tbf the p500a is larger than 4000d iirc

[frank stirrup]

4000d easier to build in from what ive seen

[fossil cedar]

Get an arctic liquid ii or ek or lian li galahad aio, and get a board more around the 180 price non as rock

[fossil cedar]

4000d is a breeze to build in yesh

[frank stirrup]

Ive just realised the only time we really talk is in build chat when other ppl ask to look at their lists lmao

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[little osprey]

Which attic liquid

There’s like a lot of them

Also the 3080 is supposed to be a 3070

@fossil cedar

does the same thing u said apply if it’s a 3070

[frigid island]

What’s up y’all, ya boi is back again. Got all the parts for my pc but it’s a hell of a time putting everything together. Would love a bit of help here. Building in a cooler master TD500, 850w revolution DF power supply, MSI B550M ATX AM4 motherboard, topping it all off with an ASRock AMD Radeon 6800 XT. Ive been consulting all the manuals, but they don’t help much. Can someone take a look at this pic and lmk if I’m on the right track or completely off the deep end here lol

[fossil cedar]

The cpu cooler got nothing to do with gpu also no need to ping me twice if I'm not online I'll see it eventually bruh

[still roost]

BassPlays#1941 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[frigid island]

Obviously it’s a mess, i fee like I’m doing something wrong here (my b for swears before)

[obsidian wigeon]

Looks like a working mess at least

[frigid island]

I’m a bit confused on the SATA ports, can’t find the motherboard slots for them

[tight sorrel]

first thing... that cable that runs along the left side (8 pin atx), you can run it behind the motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

they look like these

sata ports that is

[tight sorrel]

what is the model of motherbaord?

[obsidian wigeon]

they can be laid sideways

and ^

[frigid island]

This guy? I see the lil slot but I was a little worried about the wires touch. The model is MSI B550M Pro vdh WiFi

[tight sorrel]

yup. you run it behind the motherboard tray, and then bring it in through the gap at the top there

[frigid island]

Cool I’ve been trying that but it feels like the fan is hella in the way

[tight sorrel]

your sata ports are on the right hand edge of the motherboard. looks like they might be underneath the end of your GPU

[tight sorrel]

what fan?

[frigid island]

Took some wranglin’ but victory achieved. It’s a scythe fuma 51.17 CFM

[tight sorrel]

perfect!

well done

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RHXhcT

Guys is this good

Do I need to change anything

[frigid island]

Awesome thanks!! Other than that the only thing I can’t figure out how to plug in is the sata cables. Every slot that looks like it would fit has a little notch in there

[obsidian wigeon]

that build should be fine

[tight sorrel]

yes, the notch tells you which way to plug it in.

[little osprey]

Someone said the mobo was trash

[tight sorrel]

look at the sata cable it will have an L shape

[little osprey]

Is he capping

[obsidian wigeon]

there's some better mobos around, but i forget which sorry

[tight sorrel]

for the price of your CPU and Mobo you can get a Ryzen 5600x and B500 motherboard I think. that will be better

[obsidian wigeon]

it ain't trash

[little osprey]

Ryzenis bad

I don’t do anything but intel

What better mobo can I do

[tight sorrel]

I mean, youre limiting yourself, and you are incorrect, but ok

[little osprey]

Limiting myself how

By not wanting bluescreen?

[tight sorrel]

"only intel"

[obsidian wigeon]

amd isn't unstable tho

can confirm with even a prebuilt, got ryzen in it

[little osprey]

I don’t see why it’s better than the processor I put in

[tight sorrel]

wtf are you talking about? who has blue screen? in my house there are 4 ryzen builds, various generations, my brother runs a rendering rig on a ryzen. no blue screens

[subtle wedge]

Yo

[little osprey]

And how is it better than i5

[obsidian wigeon]

it saves cash instead of going for the z board

[tight sorrel]

the 11th gen Intel are particularly bad. run hot, use hella power, and are not even close to the power of ryzen

[little osprey]

But what about preformance

[obsidian wigeon]

altho you do lose igpu, 5600x has none

[subtle wedge]

I’m having a pc problem and I need some help

[obsidian wigeon]

well about the same

you don't lose any

[still roost]

BassPlays#1941 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tight sorrel]

really? you care about an igpu with k series porcessor and a 3070 GPU?

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't

[little osprey]

What’s I gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

Was just a note :p

igpu, integrated gpu, in the cpu

[tight sorrel]

sorry

😆

came off more agressive than I should

[frigid island]

Is a sata cable necessary? I’m boutta just forget about it and try turning it on

[little osprey]

Anyway

[obsidian wigeon]

do you have any sata devices?

if not, no

not needed

[tight sorrel]

only if you need to connect a hard drive / 2.5" ssd

[little osprey]

It seems the only problem with my build is the mobo

So what should I change it to

[frigid island]

Legit cannot find the correct port on this motherboard. I’ve got a Mushkin Pilot-E 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME SSD, is there gonna be an issue?

[tight sorrel]

you put it under the metal heatsink thats sits above the gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

^

and that means, no sata needed

[tight sorrel]

there is a ribbed metal plate between the gpu and cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

it's an nvme drive

[frigid island]

Yeah I got the SSD in all good, so hallelujah no sata

Y’all are masters thank you

[tight sorrel]

you might not see it cos your huge CPU cooler 😆

[frigid island]

Lmaooo yeah you might be right there

Oh well let’s try giving this baby a whirl

Do I need to plug the video card hdmi into the motherboard port?

[obsidian wigeon]

ni

no*

Just plug it to your monitor

The gpu will output to the monitor

[frigid island]

Sick

[austere quiver]

@pure bough why do you keep posting the same three pics lol

[frigid island]

Also I don’t have an operating system installed on this thing, is that an issue

[pure bough]

Idk. I'm bored, not trying to show off I just like to see what people think of it.

[austere quiver]

im insanely bored too

[pure bough]

LOL

[austere quiver]

what

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah, it's just gonna say no boot device found

You can still access the bios

[frigid island]

Okay I’ve booted it up!! Got the bios in front of me. Not sure what to do from here?

[dusky wedge]

So I’m looking at the MSI B560M BAZOOKA and it has no PCI slots...?

Can someone help me out here I’m a lil confused

[tight sorrel]

in bios, I would only set the XMP for now. what motherboard you got?

[tight sorrel]

I am looking at a picture of the board and can see PCIe slots.

[frigid island]

MSI B550M pro vdh WiFi

[tight sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orENI_3nHos

its for a tomahawk, but it should be the same for your board

Then you need to save settings and reboot. Then you will need to make a windows 10 instillation media USB:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d

[frigid island]

Cool got the XMP figured out. Now I just need a usb stick lol

[little osprey]

I have a friend who is interested in buying a pc for Minecraft, overwatch, and twitch streaming budget around 1k, what should they buy?

[tight sorrel]

intel 11400 system

[little osprey]

Like a prebuilt?

[tight sorrel]

prebuilt or otherwise, you cant beat the 11400 for value at the moment.

[little osprey]

Where should i buy it from? like nzxt, hp, dell etc

[tight sorrel]

look up Gamers Nexus videos. They are doing prebuilt reviews at the moment

[little osprey]

Thanks

will look

[frigid island]

How is this looking? Am I good to go ahead with windows install?

[earnest olive]

that cpu speed is suspicious

did you turn on auto oc or something?

@frigid island

msi auto oc is very dangerous and should not be used

most auto ocs are tbh

[frigid island]

Hmmm lemme see

[earnest olive]

i tried it on a 3600x and it pumped in enough voltage to kill it within a month of heavy load

[frigid island]

I’m running on an RX 6800 XT, could that be why?

[earnest olive]

gpu has nothing to do with cpu speed

[frigid island]

I’m clueless when it comes to this stuff

Sorry lol

[earnest olive]

no worries we were all new once

see at the top left

the cpu button?

deselect that and see what it says

i think that is the auto oc

[frigid island]

It’s deselected, should I reboot?

[earnest olive]

yeah see what it says after rebooting

if that 1.362v reading is fixed voltage it's very unsafe

[frigid island]

Cool! Much appreciated for the help, rebooting now!

[earnest olive]

it's honestly really irresponsible that they put that auto oc there

when i was new to pcs and built my first one i thought it was good and turned it on

[frigid island]

Okay how’s it lookin now?

And yeah that seems like a huge issue that shouldn’t be a thing

[earnest olive]

looks good, if you want to safely squeeze out more performance you can go into the advanced bios (F7) and turn on precision boost overdrive

it just enhances AMD's automatic boosting algorithm by allowing it to draw more power within the envelope that the system deems to be safe

[frigid island]

Awesome!! It says it’s on auto, should I just leave it at that?

[earnest olive]

it can go above 5ghz even on pbo

turn it to advanced

set limits to motherboard and boost override to the maximum

[frigid island]

Like so?

[earnest olive]

looks good

you can play with curve optimizer later on if you get more interested in tuning your system

but for now this is good

[frigid island]

Awesome!! Thank you so much for your help!

[earnest olive]

don't worry about PBO damaging your CPU, it is managed by the CPU itself and scales back when it needs to for safety

no problem, enjoy your build

[frigid island]

😊

[earnest olive]

i wanted a 6800xt but had to get a 3080 instead cause i couldn't find any 6800xt

[frigid island]

It was the exact opposite for me lol couldn’t find a 3080, had to take the plunge with the 6800

[earnest olive]

in 2021 we gotta take what we can get

[frigid island]

Exactly lol

[digital imp]

anyone have a weird issue with realtek audio drivers?

[earnest olive]

gonna need to be more specific than that

[nova summit]

Here in hawaii its 1000000% to find a graphic card

Wanting to upgrade to an rtx 3060 or rtx 3060 from a gtx 1060

[stoic island]

Realtek always has issues

[digital imp]

Haha yeah thats pretty vague

I have a Logitech headset that I connect to my pc with an aux cable

It used to recognize my mic and headphones fine but now it’s not and the new updated realtek just adds like three extra input/output options

[fossil cedar]

Is your headset being plugged into the case or motherboard?

[digital imp]

i guess its the case since its on top

[frank stirrup]

audio drivers are fine tbf

the realtek wifi is what I absolutely despise

[digital imp]

anyone experience this issue?

[earnest olive]

i haven't, i never use front panel audio tho

[frank stirrup]

same

[green laurel]

hi i am sort of new to pc world i currently have asus 2080 ti turbo/i7 9900k aorus z390 pro wifi mb...is there a recommended watt psu i should be running and if so how do you determine what is good for what you are running i have a 750 already and was thinking about upgrading to 850 is why i ask..

[fossil cedar]

750w should be fine

[earnest olive]

a good 750w unit is more than enough

your gpu allows a maximum of 300w in vbios

and 9900K will max out at around 300w in an unrealistic synthetic load

you'd be hard pressed to exceed 650w power draw in the most unrealistic situation possible (running p95 small ffts avx AND furmark at the same time)

in gaming it is likely to stay at 450-500w

[green laurel]

Ok thank you

[cerulean trellis]

Ok so something weird is happening when I use my laptop and connect it to my monitor it doesn’t work and then it just surprisingly displayed after trying to get it to display for about a day because my gpu broke.?????? I’m confused

[earnest olive]

your monitor wouldn't display?

[frigid island]

hey everyone, pleased to announce my build is totally finished. Typing on the new pc right now. Just wanted to thank you all for your help, you guys are awesome 🙂

popping a pic of it in the build pics channel shortly

[fossil cedar]

Congrats

[obsidian wigeon]

pog

[olive kraken]

What does the Dram QLED on mobo mean?

[hearty pine]

probaby something wrong with your ram

[olive kraken]

I was playing cod and all of a sudden my computer went black screen and unresponsive. Also lost video output. Next thing I see is DRAM led turned on

Can your memory just die out of nowhere? It's brand new too

[hearty pine]

just do a cmos reset

[muted patio]

On AMD and INtel it can also indicate CPU issues because the DRAM controller is on the CPU

[olive kraken]

Oki

I'm doing the CMOS reset rn

Alright

It booted twice for whatever reason

But it booted fine afterwards. Didn't apply DOCP or CPU OC. I wanna see if it does it again

thank u guys

[tiny oriole]

@frigid island what case did you use? It looks really good

[frigid island]

Thank you!! It’s the Cooler Master Masterbox TD500, really loving how it looks

[tiny oriole]

Thanks

And welcome

The few parts that I have left of my first pc is my case and hard drives, the case is a NZXT H440

It's nice to work in but I don't really like how it looks anymore

[obsidian wigeon]

h440 is well

uh

airflow hell

[muted patio]

Can affirm

I had one

Moved stuff to a Phanteks and my coolant temp alone dropped 10C

[tiny oriole]

Lol my temps aren't bad enough to make me worry about it being bad

Like damaging to the pc parts

I can't English today

[obsidian wigeon]

I would love to see you move away from it

lol

[jagged ember]

Nzxt is not synonymous with airflow

[odd crypt]

.

[olive kraken]

td500 mesh is nice to work in, not perfect but is good

Only thing I'd say is good luck installing HDDs

[earnest olive]

i had no issue with installing hdd in my td500 mesh

imo the major downsides of the case are

1. stock fans make a clicking sound at low rpms that drives me crazy (though i've been told not everyone experiences this)

2. due to the placement of the bottom cable management holes there's an uncomfortable amount of bend on my front usb 3.0 connector

also mine came with one of the front usb 3.0 ports dead on arrival so maybe QA issue, maybe related to #2, doesn't matter much though i have more usb ports than i could ever need

[spiral flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fp9w2V what part of this is able to be taken down a notch I want it to be about $100-200 cheaper it is mainly for gaming

[obsidian wigeon]

You don't need the 5800X honestly

Can even move to Intel

[zinc ermine]

Why is the 3070 700$

did you mean to put a 3080 or?

[robust lake]

Also no need for 32gb ram

3070 cost around 700

[jagged ember]

that's pretty normal for a 3070

so

[zinc ermine]

I mean

isnt it 1k from scalpers

and 500 for msrp

[robust lake]

500 msrp is not too be found

[jagged ember]

no way 500

[robust lake]

600-750 is the normal range depends on model

[obsidian wigeon]

700 is new msrp

basically

[jagged ember]

mmhm

[zinc ermine]

so even sellers upped prices?

[obsidian wigeon]

no

tariffs

trade war dum dum

[jagged ember]

so they did, but not of their own choice

[zinc ermine]

Oh right

the chinese prices reduction thingy

[jagged ember]

'reduction'

[obsidian wigeon]

it's tax raise

[jagged ember]

pfft this is an SSD?

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[zinc ermine]

what ssd is that

sn550?

[obsidian wigeon]

dem randoms tho

[jagged ember]

some ssd from like

[obsidian wigeon]

what a mess

[jagged ember]

a 2014 gaming laptop

idk what the hell it is i havent opened it up yet

[obsidian wigeon]

you can use crystaldiskinfo tho

[spiral flame]

that is what it is listed on like bestbuy and I might try to get a 3070ti on release

[obsidian wigeon]

should tell what it is

meh 3070ti not worth

[spiral flame]

no?

[obsidian wigeon]

if 3060ti is available i would do that instead

[jagged ember]

mm, will check using that

[obsidian wigeon]

3070ti will have 8 gigs vram

[spiral flame]

yeah IF

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

3070 is still decent rn

[zinc ermine]

The restocks are getting rarer and rarer arent they

[spiral flame]

can't it be easier to try to buy on release

[zinc ermine]

Probably

[jagged ember]

doubtful, but try

[zinc ermine]

Easier than watching restocks every minute

[spiral flame]

yeah

it is really so sad

[zinc ermine]

I expected the scalpers market to get better after the crypto crash but it didnt

[spiral flame]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pz9FNP is this better?

[jagged ember]

lol blaming the miners again?

[zinc ermine]

No

im not

But i expected miners to sell their gpus

I know theyre not the main part of the problem

[obsidian wigeon]

well it's not that scary of a crash tbh

[jagged ember]

some are probably are selling their gpus, but at current msrp

and what foxy said

[obsidian wigeon]

unlike that low we last had

[zinc ermine]

I mean its not that bad but it still cant be overlooked

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just 50% give or take loss

60k is peak

or should i say was

[spiral flame]

it is sad I really want a high spec pc over the summer but it seems impossible

[zinc ermine]

On the bright side, it probably will get better in the next months

I know a friend with a 3900x and he's stuck with a 550 ti for now

[spiral flame]

yeah but In 3 months I am going to a high difficulty boarding school so won't have time to play games as much

so it is a struggle

[jagged ember]

hopefully it gets better

[spiral flame]

yeah

[jagged ember]

also figured out it was just an HDD that for some reason was partitioned into two parts

[spiral flame]

i hope

[jagged ember]

like why would anyone do that

gotta open this thing up to see if it has an M.2 slot

[spiral flame]

was that related to something I missed?

[desert gulch]

Id get a little more wattage psu and a more beefy CPU cooler if you plan to overclock or anything

Cause you gotta factor in power spikes and stuff like that, especially if you turn on PBO on your cpu

[spiral flame]

is 700w goods or more like 750?

[earnest olive]

i am being offered a crucial p5 1tb for $94 think it's worth buying for a flip?

[mystic needle]

do phanteks items have warranty if purchased through newegg

[bitter flint]

I imagine they would have a manufacturer's warranty at least

[mystic needle]

ooh i see well the thing is i have a fan that i bought from a three pack and the rgb won’t light up no matter what

so idk how i should approach them for a replacement

[bitter flint]

Oh you could definitely email Newegg about it

They should direct you to phanteks if need be

[earnest olive]

did you make sure you are plugging it into the right header

sorry if it seems demeaning to ask but way too many people make this mistake or don't know the difference between 3 pin argb and 4 pin rgb

[spiral flame]

how often does the newegg shuffle happen?

[mystic needle]

no well i daisy chained them all together so i chained the back exhaust fan along with the two that i put on my aio (these are the ones that i purchased) and i connected those to the case fans and the back one will just not turn on at all but the rest will, and even if i started the chain at different spots the rest of the led’s will still work

but not the back exhaust no matter what so :/

[earnest olive]

oh

I thought you meant a whole three pack wasn't lighting up so I thought it was probably a mistake on your part

since it's incredibly unlikely to get a three pack that's all defective

but it's just one so you're probably right

[mystic needle]

yea definitely

such a bummer tho😭

[earnest olive]

can you imagine getting a three pack all defective

[frank stirrup]

I had one

returned it

[earnest olive]

once I had a defective mobo in a build

[frank stirrup]

no leds worked on 2 and a fan straight didnt spin

[earnest olive]

killed the ssd when I tried to boot it as well

got it replaced and the replacement mobo was also defective

[frank stirrup]

I remember you talking about that

[spiral flame]

wow

that sucks

[earnest olive]

I had to return 6 parts from that build lol

the mobo also killed a ryzen 5 3600x

[frank stirrup]

What mobo was it?

[earnest olive]

gigabyte b550m ds3h

[obsidian wigeon]

ah yes

[spiral flame]

I hope nothing like that happens to me when I build my first pc

[obsidian wigeon]

ds3h

[earnest olive]

seems to be a fine product though, I was just unlucky

[obsidian wigeon]

the one i fear of so much

[frank stirrup]

ds3h good on a budget honestly

[earnest olive]

and it was only the first mobo that killed stuff

[obsidian wigeon]

i mean it could be defective too

[earnest olive]

the b550m ds3h is a lot better than the b450m ds3h

[obsidian wigeon]

ds3h works, but it's not good

[earnest olive]

the bad reputation of the b450m ds3h shouldn't carry over

[obsidian wigeon]

least it works, so that's luck being poo

nice to see it improve then

[frank stirrup]

I mean its great at that price point

[earnest olive]

b550m ds3h is a decent budget board if that's the best priced option at the moment

[frank stirrup]

^

[earnest olive]

wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't

can't assume something is good or bad just by name

people bought rog strix 5700xt assuming it was good because strix and it turned out to be one of the worst

[spiral flame]

why are higher end gpus with the same number called TI what does it mean?

[earnest olive]

because they just copy pasted nvidia cooler and it had bad pressure lol

[earnest olive]

"ti" pretty much means a better version, there's no further meaning since different "ti" versions have varied from the non-ti in different ways

[spiral flame]

so it doesn't stand for anything

[earnest olive]

not that I know of

[frank stirrup]

ti means Titan

[lyric thistle]

GTX 980 and 980 Ti are completely different silicon, 970 and 980 are the same chip

[frank stirrup]

its the highest spec version of that specific model

[earnest olive]

doubt it means titan

[lyric thistle]

while some others are different in other ways

titanium

[earnest olive]

since they have an actual product line named titan

and yeah there's some ti versions that aren't even the same gpu, and there are some that are not that much different

[spiral flame]

idk it just seems weird

[earnest olive]

just view it as "super super" edition lol

[spiral flame]

lol

[earnest olive]

1660 ti > 1660 super > 1660

2080 ti > 2080 super > 2080

[spiral flame]

why did the 5000 series amd not have a ryzen 3?

[earnest olive]

because they have no reason to make cheap zen 3

demand is higher than supply

they sell everything they make

so they would rather focus on higher end parts with higher profit margins

especially since the manufacturing process is mature and there are few if any flaws

lower end chips are just flawed higher end chips

the ryzen 3 3100 was two 4-core chiplets that were each half defective

making a 4 core chip

ryzen 5 3600 was two 4-core chiplets that each had one defective core (or sometimes intentionally deactivated to meet demand, especially later on in the zen 2 life cycle)

ryzen 7 3700x was two 4-core chiplets that fully worked

when their manufacturing is no longer making significant flaws there is no reason to intentionally deactivate so many cores to sell low end parts for little profit

[spiral flame]

is there any reason this is the release Nvidia did a 90 version to be the highest when there was no 90 card before it?

[earnest olive]

they have just intended zen 2 to be the low end of zen 3

that's not true

gtx 690 existed

gtx 295

[spiral flame]

oh

[earnest olive]

gtx 590

[spiral flame]

I didn't know that but why did they take such a long break from naming any that?

[earnest olive]

gtx 490 was planned but never had an official release

[spiral flame]

nice

[earnest olive]

they just didn't have that much product segmentation for the last few gens I guess

well

2080ti probably could have been called a 2090 since it launched at the same time as the 2080

but they just decided not to

it's just whatever they decide

to be fair, 2080ti sounds better than 2090

and 3090 sounds more natural

but that may just be bias because of having heard those product names...

[spiral flame]

Yeah

[earnest olive]

the 3080 and 3090 use the same GPU die

the 2080 and 2080ti use different GPU dies

[spiral flame]

lol that is so weird

[earnest olive]

so yeah it's basically just whatever they want to do

[spiral flame]

it seems like they would want to make their rules for naming more constants but I guess not

what gpu do you have?

[earnest olive]

they've stopped making gpus with a name ending in 5

gtx 285, 295, 745, etc

I have a 3080

[spiral flame]

noice

how did you get it?

[earnest olive]

stock alerts and clicking fast

[spiral flame]

what price did you get it for?

was it before or after the Tariffs?

[earnest olive]

769.99

before tariffs

card had 800 msrp

[spiral flame]

nice I am hoping on release I can get a 3070Ti

[earnest olive]

good luck

[spiral flame]

I'll need it

[earnest olive]

gpus are pain to get

[spiral flame]

yeah and I don't even have great internet but I can drag click

[vague oracle]

Honestly I doubt drag clicking would help

[ancient frost]

hey everyone

[ancient frost]

wait until 2022

they will have more in stock

and no more gpu out of stock

hey guys

[autumn hemlock]

Hello All - I am new to this chat but it came highly recommended. I need help with putting together a build. Budget is around $1200 nothing to fancy. Even would go prebuilt just to get it faster as my current build is outdated and dying. Use? streaming, video conferencing, IT support with logmein virtualization, no gaming so doesn't have to be setup for that. Just need a no issues build that will last ~5yrs. Suggestions? Locations to buy?

[meager badge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

It will tell you if it doesn't work.

Price, etc.

[fossil cedar]

^only for diy stuff, no prebuilts on there btw

[fossil cedar]

When you mean streaming video, do you mean live streaming or just video conferencing with your webcam etc, and what kinda software is the logmein one? Is it cpu or gpu intensive?

[autumn hemlock]

yes live streaming, yes video conferencing which is GPU intensive, Logmein is remote management software allows IT admin to connect to servers, computers etc whichis CPU intensive

[fossil cedar]

Something like a 10700 build should do just fine then

[fossil cedar]

What resolution are you planning on livestreaming?

[desert gulch]

I bet you can get away with 6 cores, like 10400f/11400f very easily

Since you could just handle streaming on nvenc mainly

Especially once like 3050 models come out

[fossil cedar]

They don't wanna game or anything

[autumn hemlock]

@eternal spindle 1920x1200

[fossil cedar]

They would most likely benefit from the extra cores and igpu

[fossil cedar]

Is that ultra wide 1080p?

Also 30fps okay? For streaming?

Just an i7 10700 would do then

[autumn hemlock]

@eternal spindle yes i7 10700 would be fine

[fossil cedar]

How much ram do you want btw?

And how much storage

[autumn hemlock]

@eternal spindle what do you suggest?

[fossil cedar]

16gb is plenty for most

32gb if you multi task a lot

[autumn hemlock]

let do 32

it needs a gigabit ethernet card, but that probably comes standard

[fossil cedar]

Yeah most motherboards have gigabyte now

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y8qVK3 @autumn hemlock

[autumn hemlock]

so that partpicker list for $910 has a 1TB hard drive that looks like a memory stick? dumb question is the new way of storage? No more standard HD or SDD bricks?

[fossil cedar]

It's an nvme ssd

It's like the same price as sata pretty much but faster

Also hard drives are only for bulk storage now, your OS and other common programs should be on an ssd

[lyric thistle]

I got my WD Blue 3D a bit more than a year ago, and since almost a year I haven't had access to my pc and I'm getting a similar computer that has a 2tb hard drive so I'm back to square one

[autumn hemlock]

@fossil cedar so I wouldn't need anything else to complete the build, wires, cabling, adapters etc?

[lyric thistle]

hopefully I get my pc sooner than later, and I can recombine the parts, if not I'm gonna get an MX500

a storage device that's installed directly to a motherboard doesn't require any extra power or data cables

[fossil cedar]

Nope they are all included with the parts

[lyric thistle]

I'm hyped to get this computer tho, it has a proper mobo, some spare ram, an i5-4460 and cooler

moar parts

[fossil cedar]

Wow :o

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[autumn hemlock]

@eternal spindle thanks for assist

[fossil cedar]

Np

[marble whale]

is 128gbs ram alot?

[lyric thistle]

depends

if you're a casual user yes

if you run mega brain simulations no

[desert gulch]

Are we talking ram or storage?

[marble whale]

ram

[desert gulch]

Oh

Yeah for 99% of ppl it's easily enough

[marble whale]

is 500gbs storage alot?

[lyric thistle]

no

it's the least I would consider buying

[marble whale]

is is a desent amount?

[lyric thistle]

it's a good start

[marble whale]

18TB?

[lyric thistle]

lmao

[stoic island]

You having fun there

[lyric thistle]

500GB is plenty for basic use

[marble whale]

gaming?

18TB?

[lyric thistle]

no

too little for gaming sorry

not even minesweeper will fit

[marble whale]

18 TB?

[lyric thistle]

will fill up in seconds of turning on the computer

no chance of it working

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[lyric thistle]

too small

[desert gulch]

Won't even fit windows on it

[lyric thistle]

needs at least 47 exabytes

72 for more breathing room

[marble whale]

18 tarabytes?

[desert gulch]

I'd step into brontobytes if i was gonna build a PC now

[lyric thistle]

yeah true

[desert gulch]

Brontobytes would at least give you room for some games

[lyric thistle]

72 exabytes is even pretty limiting

[desert gulch]

Yea

[marble whale]

18,000gbs?

[desert gulch]

Yea we get it

Thats 18 TBS

[marble whale]

is that alot?

[stoic island]

Smh need like 80 exbibytes

[desert gulch]

Not enough for a game even

[marble whale]

my laptop has 1TB

[desert gulch]

I'm surprised it even runs with that little of storage

[marble whale]

?

1,000gbs?

[stoic island]

80 EiB = 81920 PiB = 83886080 TiB = 85899345920 GiB

[marble whale]

whats a desent amount of storage for gaming?

[stoic island]

You want a serious answer now?

[marble whale]

yes

[desert gulch]

1tb is enough for most ppl

Thats the basic idea

[stoic island]

1-2tb

[desert gulch]

Mainly depends on budget

And what you wanna do with it

[stoic island]

1tb ssd + 2tb hdd does the job for most

1tb + 4tb for those with more storage needs

[lyric thistle]

I have a 500gb ssd + 1tb hdd and it would be enough for me for a while

[marble whale]

8gbs ram good?

[desert gulch]

Mr1 have you seen the new NUC?

[lyric thistle]

8gb ram is usable, BUT

limiting

[stoic island]

What's in it?

[stoic island]

Huh

[desert gulch]

Full length dgpu

[stoic island]

Intel graphics?

Wacky

[desert gulch]

Looks super promising

[stoic island]

Looks like just a nr200 to me now

[sullen spoke]

Has mee6 still been updating roles here?

[desert gulch]

Yeah, it's still p pog tho

[stoic island]

:p

Not when nr200 is avaliable to stuff whatever you want in

[desert gulch]

Smh

Does nr200 have RGB skull on the front tho?

[stoic island]

Does NUC have side mesh panel tho?

[desert gulch]

Maybe in other side, who knows

Maybe it'll be a mesh tinted tempered glass side panel xD

[last fractal]

@stoic island what is the best build 2500 dollors max gaming build

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/vinyl-record-sift-gif-4068680

mr1 boutta pull out the perfect pc part picker list

[fossil cedar]

Why did you need to ping mr1111

Lol

[last fractal]

Because he is smart

[fossil cedar]

But also that list gonna depend on what gpu you can get for the price as well

[last fractal]

Imma get a 3080

[stoic island]

I b on mobile

But that reminds me

I'll make new budget specific lists

[potent moth]

Is this a good pc?

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CCsPBc

[potent moth]

Processor
10th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-10400F processor(6-Core, 12M Cache, 2.9GHz to 4.3GHz)
Operating System
Windows 10 Home English
Video Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 SUPER™ 4GB GDDR6
Hard Drive
256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
Memoryi
8GB, 1x8GB, DDR4, 2666MHz
Wireless
Killer™ Wi-Fi 6 AX1650i (2x2) 802.11ax Wireless and Bluetooth 5.1

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the price

[potent moth]

Dell G5 Gaming Desktop

Est. Value $899.99
Save
$320.00
Shipping FREE
Dell Price $579.

[fossil cedar]

For 580?

Yeah but dell pcs are kinda 💩

[potent moth]

What about the internals

[last fractal]

meh

[fossil cedar]

What you mean meh lol

[fossil cedar]

Good but dells pcs are meh

[stoic island]

@potent moth I'll just refer you to this
https://youtu.be/4DMg6hUudHE

[muted patio]

For 580 tske it and run

[frank stirrup]

Its a great list whats wrong with it lmao

[stoic island]

I mean, even for 580, I'd be cautious

[fossil cedar]

Thank you lol

[muted patio]

Only because billing

[fossil cedar]

Btw I'd say mr1111 would highly disagree with your statement lol

[muted patio]

Pay attention to that and grab the pc and run lol

[stoic island]

GN took a closer look at the 1660s in the dell prebuilt in a video

Very very very cheapo

Everything is wacky

[lyric thistle]

😭

[frank stirrup]

anyone who knows about tech would

[lyric thistle]

needs a cooler replacement to be safe

[muted patio]

Of course its cheapo

[last fractal]

no whats the pointt of r9 5900 when i dont stream and dont edit

[fossil cedar]

Ik but they specifically simp for mr1111 lol

[stoic island]

Cheapo as in throttling out of box

[desert gulch]

Lol

[stoic island]

Ya

[fossil cedar]

Best gaming cpu is 5900x

[stoic island]

That's the vid

[desert gulch]

I watched that yesterday

[stoic island]

And that's gddr6 throttling, somehow

[frank stirrup]

whats the point of having such a large budget if you dont want the latest and greatest

[desert gulch]

Lol ye

[stoic island]

We all hear about gddr6x throttling, and that's gddr6 going 110c stock

[fossil cedar]

Quite impressive tbh

[stoic island]

Anyways, just for the specs, value look good, but considering the quality of parts dell usually use, I'd be cautious

[fossil cedar]

Still gonna outperform any other 580$ pc tho

[desert gulch]

Yuh

[fossil cedar]

Even with throttle 100% of time

[desert gulch]

I'd go for it if it's what will fit in budget

[potent moth]

I’m on a tight budget should I just build one or get the G5 because of the graphics card

[lyric thistle]

would one of the arctic coolers fit on it

don't get the g5 lol

[fossil cedar]

Apparently the esports one does yeah

[lyric thistle]

ah nice

[fossil cedar]

For 580$ it's your best option at that price tbh

[lyric thistle]

then it could get actually decent vram longevity 👀

[potent moth]

K

[last fractal]

I need 32 gb of ram

[muted patio]

What for

[fossil cedar]

Gaming......

[desert gulch]

Some games can take advantage of that ram tbh

Flight sim def will

[fossil cedar]

No way it uses more than 16gb

[desert gulch]

Yeah it can

[muted patio]

FS2020?

Oh hell yeah

[desert gulch]

Ask anybody who plays fs2020

Yea

Especially in a city

Cities take hella ram

[fossil cedar]

Damm

[fossil cedar]

Well then get 32gb instead, and increase budget by 50 or so or find a 50$ cheaper 3080

@last fractal https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f6vvy4

There

Was just tryna make it easier for you to find a 3080 with inflated prices but that should be fine too

[stoic island]

Sad that b550-a price went up, I liked that board

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's now like 10 less than the tuf :/

Worth just getting the tuf imo

[stoic island]

It was 140$, 145$ now, I'm talking about the MSI board

[fossil cedar]

Ohh

I thought you meant prime a nvm lol

[stoic island]

I like the look of the board, looks nice

[fossil cedar]

Yeah the a pro is nice

[last fractal]

Some AMD B550 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vermeer CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions. what does that mean

[fossil cedar]

Yep

Means you need to bios flash before it works

[last fractal]

is that hard