building-and-recc-chat

[burnt gulch]

Can someone build me a custom Pokémon theme setup

Hello

[vague oracle]

White case/red spraypaint=go crazy

[burnt gulch]

Yes

Go crazy with it

Hello

[potent portal]

Forget the red/white theme, that's overused. Pick your favorite Pokémon and find an artist to use the color scheme and paint it.

[void raft]

... or... go full mod and make the whole build fit the character you want.

Glass etching can be an effective tool

[potent portal]

Well yeah the rest of it too, not just the case. Bonus points for etched glass.

The case is just the biggest job out of it

[full atlas]

Just unboxed my new psu!

[void raft]

That was a really fun one

[full atlas]

That’s very cool

[potent portal]

Now that is a themed build.

[void raft]

You didn't see my Nightwing post just a bit ago?

[potent portal]

Too many people just change the rgb color and toss a funko pop in there

[void raft]

Go up further

[stoic island]

ya

[potent portal]

Scrolling is hard on mobile with slow pic loading

[scenic turret]

.......I dunno what else to do besides a custom paint job and waterloop

[potent portal]

Painting a design, not just a flat color, to start. That's already a step above most of these "theme" builds. If you can modify the case itself to look like something that belongs in the world your theme belongs too, that's getting to the next level.

[burnt gulch]

Looks so cool

is there some one here who can design it for me

[scenic turret]

Hmmm, I'll try something soon

[muted patio]

What you want is so subjective

[maiden crater]

Can someone recommed me a Cpu like the 5 5600x they are out of stock rn

[potent portal]

11600k

[maiden crater]

cant do intel

[muted patio]

5800x then

[burnt gulch]

Can you design it for me

[muted patio]

Or wait for a 5600x to come in stock, they're getting easier to find now

[potent portal]

Well then your only options are wait or go up a step or two

[maiden crater]

damn thats over $300

Oh wait I didn't even check best buy

Ayyyy they got it in stock

Amazon just doesn't have it

[potent portal]

AMD might get more on their site tomorrow morning

[muted patio]

I thought they restock on Thursdays?

[maiden crater]

Aight guys thanks for helpin out

[scenic turret]

Oh no I mean myself lol

[potent portal]

Oh you found one, nice. But is it the right price?

[burnt gulch]

Oh okay

[maiden crater]

its $299

[potent portal]

Derp thought it was still Wednesday

[burnt gulch]

Can someone design me a custom pc

[maiden crater]

All I need Is to find a GPU

[muted patio]

Just checking XD

[maiden crater]

3070 specifically

This is the build rn

[potent portal]

That's something you'd need to pay an artist for in all honesty

[burnt gulch]

Okay

[wary canyon]

Thoughts* my boy helped me out

[burnt gulch]

Do you knows any artist you can do it for me

[maiden crater]

Ayy @wary canyon same motherboard lol

[scenic turret]

Stealth build nice

Could convert to 140mm fans in the front if you really want

[burnt gulch]

Is anyone there a good artist

[full atlas]

Front exhaust?

[wary canyon]

Yee

[maiden crater]

bro waaaa

why

[wary canyon]

No back sorry lol

[maiden crater]

You need thwat positive air pressure if you want to keep out dust and good cooling performance

[full atlas]

I would recommend having the front as intake, and the back/tool for exhaust for that case

[maiden crater]

Positive air pressure ^^^

[full atlas]

And maybe add another fan in the front? I know you have at least one more stock fan from the case that you could hide at the bottom of the front

[wary canyon]

Was thinking that

[wide sparrow]

Hmm

[jagged ember]

front fans are not mounted as intake in this pic

[worthy zodiac]

Oh yeah

Backwards

[jagged ember]

are you sure you want to be exhausting air using front panel?

[worthy zodiac]

Hes prolly confused

[jagged ember]

i mean, thats just negative pressure iirc

will draw in air from cracks in the case

theoretically, at least

[worthy zodiac]

No way he wants his front panel as exhaust

[jagged ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

you never know

[worthy zodiac]

Wait

[worthy zodiac]

^

[jagged ember]

yep

i guess we'll see how well it performs

[fleet pagoda]

Zotac drop was awful

Lmaooo

[lyric thistle]

mm

yes

sock

[hallow glen]

.

[languid nimbus]

Rip

[mighty aspen]

need help with my first pc build.. it won't start and I can't figure out why

[mighty aspen]

nevermind.. I figured it out, my stupid power supply has 23 pin, not 24 pin for the motherboard..

it was the same case for the cpu, I had to buy extension wire for it

evga supernova golden disappointment uwu

[fossil cedar]

That's normal

Atx spec is 23 actual pins

[fossil cedar]

Do any fans start?

[mighty aspen]

nothing starts at all

just a dead pc

[fossil cedar]

Okay what specs?

[mighty aspen]

I got 24 pins in motherboard I believe uwu

it's an msi b550 unify

[fossil cedar]

Cpu? Gpu? Ram?

[frank stirrup]

nope

23

[mighty aspen]

cpu is 5600x

[frank stirrup]

also pls no uwu thanks

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

[frank stirrup]

bios flash?

[fossil cedar]

Are you sure the front panel is connected properly to your motherboard?

[mighty aspen]

pretty sure about that

[fossil cedar]

Well it should at least power fans before bios flash so i reckon it's front panel first

[fossil cedar]

Rewire it just incase

[frank stirrup]

send me a pic of the motherboard box

in my dms

you wont be able to send here

[frank stirrup]

send a pic of what u have done there

extension wires sus sometimes

[mighty aspen]

there is

usb extension

and one for cpu

[snow wasp]

ur still awake?

damn ppl really dont sleep😆

[fossil cedar]

I'm in Europe it's 9.50am

[frank stirrup]

sus

[snow wasp]

o btw estr here

[frank stirrup]

send me pics

dm me em

[snow wasp]

est*

[frank stirrup]

@mighty aspen

[snow wasp]

ahh 4:49am here lol

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[mighty aspen]

well okay

[frank stirrup]

sleep mate

[snow wasp]

yea i was about to sleep and was just making one last stop here

[frank stirrup]

bad idea tbh

[snow wasp]

ight gn everyone

[frank stirrup]

yep gn

[snow wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-okay-slide-gif-15172486

[frank stirrup]

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Yo

[frank stirrup]

ugh slow internet give it a second

[fossil cedar]

Okay lol

[frank stirrup]

maybe like 30 of em actually

[fossil cedar]

Nb lol

[fossil cedar]

Wtf is that

[frank stirrup]

the cpu usb thing

[fossil cedar]

Also that's definitely a usb 2.0 port jammed into a usb c

[fossil cedar]

I can see but why the mobo blue

[frank stirrup]

IDK

[fossil cedar]

It's supposed to be a msi b550 unify

[frank stirrup]

I dont think the person asking has a clue about pcs

look at this

[fossil cedar]

That's definitely not a unify

[frank stirrup]

lulz

[fossil cedar]

Oh dear

Mb get them to watch a build guide from linus or something

[frank stirrup]

nah

they swearing at me in the dms

imma get em banned

[fossil cedar]

I just saw yeah

Nvm they can struggle then

[still roost]

Haruka#6970 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mighty aspen]

Well I got no solution because he couldn't stop being a jerk

[frank stirrup]

look dms

[mighty aspen]

he attacks me first.

[fossil cedar]

Youre the one swearing at mittens 😂

[mighty aspen]

he attacks me first saying I'm the wrong thing and not to uwu

like what the hell

just let me be me

are you here to help me out or be a jerk?

he takes shots at me and expects nothing back?

[fossil cedar]

That's not attacking they were trying to help then to told them to suck a redacted redacted

Lol

[frank stirrup]

Lmfaoo

[mighty aspen]

he says this after too

insults my ability

[fossil cedar]

I've got screen shots idc you sweared at him while he was tryna help

[frank stirrup]

pato leave it

its not worth it

[mighty aspen]

HOW IS THAT HELPING?

[frank stirrup]

fights like this get people banned here

block and move on

[fossil cedar]

Yeah lol

[mighty aspen]

saying I'm wrong as a person and don't have cranial capacity

you idiots are the one saying it's not a UNIFY WHEN IT IS

Telling me to dm you stuff just so you can take the piss out of me .

PC is the only thing you'll ever be able to build, surely never a relationship with that jackass attitude

this is why guys like you are always single.

[fossil cedar]

This is hilarious

[jagged ember]

real mature

[frank stirrup]

Im just here lounging and laughing mate

[mighty aspen]

Judge my "caranial capacity" when you can't even know a unify motherboard when you see one.

And you're like "oh I can build pcs" Well if you can you should know better than to be a jerk.

[jagged ember]

you're really being a jerk right now too

[mighty aspen]

And you should know what motherboard that is by looking at it.

[frank stirrup]

you should see what they dmed me mate

[mighty aspen]

Well you can blame him for being rude.

[jagged ember]

take this to dms if u want to keep insulting him

#rules

[frank stirrup]

yes

[mighty aspen]

No he's blocked.

[jagged ember]

well then leave it

[mighty aspen]

He started this to begin with.

[jagged ember]

stop being a child

theres no point

[mighty aspen]

WELL YOU TELL HIM TO SHUT UP FIRST

[jagged ember]

he's just gonna keep sitting there and laugh

[flint sapphire]

#building-negative-relationships

[mighty aspen]

why you tell me and don't tell him?

[flint sapphire]

chat

[jagged ember]

not everything is about you lmao

well, back to papers please

[frank stirrup]

great game

[fossil cedar]

Don't forgot rule number 4.20, 2 wrongs make a right XD

[frank stirrup]

the guy who shows up every day with some new shenanigans is honestly best character in the game

[jagged ember]

he actually had the right documents

so

had to let him through lmao

[frank stirrup]

sad

I woulda cancelled it anyway to see him again

Who needs meds or heating when you can have funny potato man

[tight sorrel]

does anyone have a handy tool or tip for making sure colours match accross different RGB devices? Corsair fan, G.Skill Ram, Wraith Spire Cooler, LianLi fans... all have different shades of wqhite FFS

[frank stirrup]

use motherboard software

and motherboard rgb headers

[tight sorrel]

cant, Corsair fans dont plug into the MOBO header

and thats not the issue anyway. What I mean is that if I set pure blue for the corsair fans, its completely different to the pure blue of the lianli fans.

[frank stirrup]

you might have to mess around with custom colours then

[tight sorrel]

yeah, was wondering if someone had done a guide of some sort

instead of me just randomly moving colour pickers around

hoping to get it right

[frank stirrup]

not aware of smtn like this existing

[jagged ember]

They day rgb colors are the same for all parts is the day we achieve world peace

[tight sorrel]

yup. currently not even my corsair keyboard and mouse match. Thats from the same manufacturer. never mind accross manufacturers

[jagged ember]

Smh corsair

[little osprey]

@tight sorrel different fans have different style LEDs

Very few different manufacturers will have a 100% match

Try adjusting the red and/or green one point at a time

[tight sorrel]

then LED manufacturers can suck a fat d....

[tight sorrel]

thats basically what im doing 😆

[little osprey]

Well it's like that with monitors as well

Tbh, I'm getting rid of my Corsair fans

[tight sorrel]

I can understand monitors. its complicated signal. but a pure BLUE signal from a LED.. come on

[little osprey]

I'm not a fan of the ll120s or the sp120s

Correction: I'm not a fan of the proprietary RGB connectors

[tight sorrel]

the only fans I would replace them with is the UniFans, but there are none available here

retailers dont even list them

[little osprey]

I'm trying to find 3 more of the Antec case fans that came with my case but all that I can find are the prisms where it's just the outer circle

[tight sorrel]

thats another issue... case manufacturers have sperate fan models they fit to cases to the ones they sell on retail... wtf is that about?

[little osprey]

🤷‍♂️

Tbh, main reason why I'm leaving Corsair is because it took me two weeks to be able to properly install ICUE, and now 2 of three of my sp120s will light up, and none of my ll120s will

And this is after buying a new hub

[tight sorrel]

freakin... oh, you know you cant connect different style fans to the same node pro?

[little osprey]

I tried separately

[tight sorrel]

oh wow

thats .. horrible

[little osprey]

I even tried the LLs one at a time in each of the ports

Want to know what Corsair customer support told me?

"Just buy new ones, here's the link"

[tight sorrel]

HAHAHAH... thats cheeky

flip

[little osprey]

Yeah, and I was thinking about swapping my Asus rog strix PSU for a Corsair one too

[tight sorrel]

I dont blame you for wanting to leave them..

[little osprey]

Not anymore

[tight sorrel]

completely understandable

[little osprey]

Especially since I got this PSU for the price of a 500W thermaltake smart PSU

Brand new too, still had the outer plastic around the box as well

[little osprey]

In my country msi mpg x570 ace cost as much as asus rog x570 e
Which one should I get

The cpu is 5900x

[tight sorrel]

The MSI

[little osprey]

I'm also searching for asus rtx 3080 rog strix gaming oc and someone sayed that asus mobos are recommended for asus gpus

[muted patio]

That's a load of hooey

Parts don't need to match like that

Nothing to gain

No performance boost

[tight sorrel]

bs

[little osprey]

He said that bc of rgb

But ok

[stoic island]

bruh

[muted patio]

Nah

[stoic island]

gpu rgb

[little osprey]

Then I'll get the msi one

[muted patio]

Don't even need it for RGB lol

[stoic island]

and no, it doesn't matter

any crappy mobo rgb software should be able to control gpu rgb

[little osprey]

Damn that guy was dumb

[stoic island]

and just

[tight sorrel]

the ACE is a completely different level of Mobo to the ROG Strix E. If you can get them for the same price, the MSI is the clear winner

[stoic island]

don't worry about rgb

[little osprey]

Ok

[neon anchor]

I bought a clearance eatx mobo from EVGA a couple years ago but I haven’t had time to build anything with it, especially since the price of the 7700k’s never went down. Is it too late to start something with it or am I still good to go?

Old parts list for reference

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Dtackle57/saved/#view=rh6j23

[fossil cedar]

Nah sell the old board on ebay that stuff is 5 years old

Sell it and build from scratch

[neon anchor]

Sad

[fossil cedar]

Also build is private

Can't see it

[neon anchor]

Such a nice board too, i love the eatx size because there’s so much on it

Oh huh thought I changed that

[fossil cedar]

Scrap that

[neon anchor]

F

Alright

What should I do then

Starting from scratch

I used to be a tech and could design my own but I like feedback from others

For reference, I’ll play anything from minecraft to warzone and doom eternal

[fossil cedar]

Whats your budget

[neon anchor]

Let’s say around $5k

[fossil cedar]

5k 👀

Dam

Holy 💩

That's very overkill lol

[little osprey]

5k jeez

[neon anchor]

Lets ignore current gpu prices for now and stick with the bread and butter cpu and mobo combos

[fossil cedar]

Sure, are you in the us?

[neon anchor]

I’m 25 and an engineering manager, masters in mechanical engineering, used to work as a network technician, and at one point was dell certified

[fossil cedar]

Also will you be just gaming or using for work too?

[neon anchor]

But I still prefer intel and nvidia stuff over amd

[fossil cedar]

Amd are the cpu king atn

Atm

Intel is struggling in high end

Really bad

[neon anchor]

Well amd doesn’t work well with my engineering softwares so I usually prefer intel

[fossil cedar]

Ohh that's a shame

Because intels best offering are meh

Are you sure?

Like what software?

[muted patio]

Mmmm

Yeah some software actually NEEDS Intel lol

jay just did a video on it

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik but some just recommend intel

[neon anchor]

Shame, yeah tried to run COMSOL on a decent amd setup and it choked hard. My work laptop is an XPS with an i7-10875h octa and 64gb ram

2tb ssd and 1650ti

[fossil cedar]

As in it just didn't run?

[neon anchor]

Basically

[fossil cedar]

What amd cpu was it do you know?

[neon anchor]

It’s been a year, idk but some ryzen

[fossil cedar]

Probs you're gonna have to go intel tho

[fossil cedar]

Fair i was just making sure it was not an fx cpu

[little osprey]

U can litterly get the most high end build with that

[fossil cedar]

Nope they need intel for work so the cant actually

[little osprey]

Ohh

[neon anchor]

Eh, debatable. We got a workhorse desktop at work, a dell precision tower with dual xeons and an rtx 5000, damn thing was like $9k

[little osprey]

Get 10900kf

Or k

Dont get 11900k

[fossil cedar]

Alright i would go i9 10850k, z490/z590 motherboard 64gb of 3600cl16 ram and a 3080/3090

[fossil cedar]

10900k waste of money imo

10850k same thing like 100 less

[little osprey]

Ok

[little osprey]

64gb o_O

[fossil cedar]

And an arctic liquid freezer 360mm aio in the td500 mesh or corsair 5000d airflow with an enermax revolution df 850w power supply

[neon anchor]

Yeah 64 is minimum for running comsol for us

[fossil cedar]

It will be needed for the work stuff they gonna do

Engineering is ram hungry

[little osprey]

Ohh ok

[fossil cedar]

You can go 128gb of ram if you want

And if it would be helpful then

[little osprey]

128gb is like 800$ I think

[fossil cedar]

So

[little osprey]

Just wanted to say

If the pc is for work then a quadro gpu would do better than 3090 I think

[fossil cedar]

Nah 3080 or 3090 would be fine and better for gaming, I'm assuming it's a gaming/work pc

[neon anchor]

It’s not gonna be specifically for work, more gaming and play but I need to be able to run my work stuff in a pinch

[little osprey]

Ohh well then ok

[neon anchor]

I’ll use the work computer with the quadro rtx if I wanna go play in solidworks

[little osprey]

Ok

[neon anchor]

For a gaming comp I’d rather go with 64 gb of higher speed ram than 128 gb because I’d never use it

Hell I’ve seen a data comp with 1tb of ecc ram

[fossil cedar]

@neon anchor https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j74Hgt

Still way under budget lol

[neon anchor]

Anyway, onto network cards, I want wifi and bluetooth, do yall like Killer brand?

[fossil cedar]

Never heard of

I'd just get built in wifi

I'll change motherboard

[little osprey]

How much storage do u want?

[neon anchor]

The good cards usually take up an M.2 port

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sTMzcT

[neon anchor]

Uh 2tb ssd is fine, if I want more I’d probably go with a 4tb SSHD but not needed atm

[fossil cedar]

This uses m.2 wifi/Bluetooth

[fossil cedar]

Fair i just chucked it in cuz

[neon anchor]

Ah cool

[fossil cedar]

But yeah i would go that list - the 2nd ssd then

[neon anchor]

Very cool tysm

[fossil cedar]

Np

You can get a different case if you would like but that will suit you v nice

[neon anchor]

I’ll probably still wait for gpu prices to go down, whats the actual retail on a 3080

[fossil cedar]

800

But depending on model ofc

[neon anchor]

BRUH

Holy crap

[fossil cedar]

800 for founders edition

Any other is under tarrifs

So that doesn't help

[neon anchor]

[fossil cedar]

But rog strix would probs be 1k MSRP

[neon anchor]

Considering my current desktop is running mostly components from 2008 i don’t really care

I don’t need to run anything at max settings I just want it to work

I remember the first pc gaming I did was on my old inspiron laptop with a dual core i7 mobile cpu and integrated graphics. I was playing csgo at maybe 20fps and I still ended up at GNM

[fossil cedar]

Oof yeah even a 3070 would do you tbh 2080 ti performance for 700$ even with inflated prices

[muted patio]

WE LIVE, GO GO GO !!! https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[neon anchor]

Best I’ve got for personal is a 2060 in my G7 laptop, but of course thats a bit limited because its form factor

[fossil cedar]

Oof yeah

[fossil cedar]

Try the shuffle, vintage just sent the link there, best bet to get a gpu at decent price

[neon anchor]

Cant really since I’m at work

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

It takes a few seconds to enter maybe try a different day

Then

[muted patio]

Do it from your phone?

XD

[little osprey]

@neon anchor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/498psX

[fossil cedar]

Liquid cooler is 💩

[little osprey]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

Sata m.2

Why

[muted patio]

That's just a way to burn up $5K

[fossil cedar]

Mobo is overpriced

[muted patio]

Can do the same for way less lol

[fossil cedar]

980 pro waste

[neon anchor]

Sata???

[little osprey]

Its fast

[fossil cedar]

4000x waste of money 5000d airflow way better

[fossil cedar]

Pilot e beats iirc

[muted patio]

I mean, Gen 4 drives are no difference loading and has bad ranom IO

Hynix P31 gold is faster

XD

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[frank stirrup]

price yes. perf-almost yes

[jagged ember]

It doesn't I think, but for the price hynix p31 or pilot e beats the Samsung

Any day

[fossil cedar]

But no 2tb p31

Also no way 10850k is gonna run 4000mhz ram

And cl18 bleh

And why would you go rm when revolution df is cheaper and better

And that monitor really aint an improvement over m27q

[little osprey]

Do you even need 4k ram?

Isn't 3600 enough?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 10850k wouldn't even run 4k ram anyway

[civic tusk]

Why wouldn't a 10850k run 4000MT/s

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Because it's too high only 11900k on intel unless really lucky and with silicon lottery can run 4000mhz

And cl18 bleh

[civic tusk]

That's completely false

[fossil cedar]

Same ns response as 3600cl16 afaik

[fossil cedar]

It's not lol

[civic tusk]

I know plenty people with 10900k which has same imc as 10850k running 4400mhz +

Also 11th gens imc is worse than 10th gens

Hense why there is now gear 1 and gear 2

[fossil cedar]

What you on about

[civic tusk]

Something you must understand clearly

Gear 1 is 1:1 ratio with imc
Gear 2 is 2:1 ratio with imc

[fossil cedar]

@stoic island can you clarify?

[stoic island]

what?

[civic tusk]

If you want some proof of it just go watch any of buildzoids videos overclocking ram on both a 10700k and 10900k you will see its very possible to get past 4000MT/s

@stoic island just read above

[stoic island]

Intel IMC is better than AMD IMC

no reason 10850k can't run above 4000mhz afaik

[civic tusk]

Thankyou for the clarification

[stoic island]

unless traces are absolute crap but ye

Also, I thought gear 1 and gear 2 are only for 11th gen chips?

[civic tusk]

Yeah that's what I said

[fossil cedar]

What ? Unless I'm mistaking 4000 for 4400 i thought jayz 2 cents couldn't get it to run on 10900k

[stoic island]

ah misread

[civic tusk]

That's 4400mhz xmp

That's completely different to actually tuned 4000mhz + ram

[fossil cedar]

But 4000 would really not be worth the upgrade price wise anyway

Yeah i mis remember 4400 for 4000

[civic tusk]

That I can agree with but you said specifically it wouldn't work which unfortunately is false

[fossil cedar]

But not worth

[frank stirrup]

3800cl16>400cl18

[stoic island]

I just clicked on the list but what the hell is this

it's just

what

[fossil cedar]

NOT MINE

[stoic island]

I'll edit it rq

[fossil cedar]

They took my list and ruined it lol

[civic tusk]

Lol $900 on ram

[frank stirrup]

f

[muted patio]

They just popped parts until they hit $5K

[civic tusk]

Can get that specific bin of b die in far cheaper kits

[fossil cedar]

@stoic island this what i had

[frank stirrup]

why avengers edition?

[stoic island]

lol

[fossil cedar]

10$ cheaper

[frank stirrup]

wait what?

thats whack

[fossil cedar]

Avengers was cheaper than regular

Yeah same thing with 10850k afaik

Nvm I'm dum

Both are 10850k

[stoic island]

my edit for now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCQmcT

I was just confused on storage so

[civic tusk]

What does this guy need 128gb of ram for

[neon anchor]

Delicious thank you

[neon anchor]

Comsol

[civic tusk]

I can't think of any reason that you would need 128gb of ram without getting something like a threadripper

[neon anchor]

I do large assembly CFD

[civic tusk]

Is that some kind of fea software

[fossil cedar]

Engineering

[neon anchor]

Fea but for fluids

[fossil cedar]

And the programs NEED intel

[civic tusk]

Ah yes calculations of fluid dynamics makes some sense now

Would that not benefit from avx512 instruction set though

I know things like matlab do

[neon anchor]

A

What

[stoic island]

I mean, even with avx512, 8 core vs 10 core

[neon anchor]

I hate matlab with every fiber of my being

[civic tusk]

I wasn't thinking 11th gen I was thinking something like a 7980xe

[stoic island]

ah

that may make sense

actually, wouldn't smth like 10920x work?

[neon anchor]

Cant use amd stuff with Comsol

[stoic island]

that should support avx512

10920x is Intel

[neon anchor]

Huh, haven’t seen the x suffix in a while

Thats why it confused me

[civic tusk]

Yeah all recent extreme platform intel support avx512

Just check to see if the software you are going to use benefits from avx512 instruction set

Before you set yourself on the 10850k

[stoic island]

ye, good to check if the info is avaliable

[neon anchor]

For reference I’m running it on my laptop i7 10875h

[fossil cedar]

Me too it's so dumb but i need it for college

[stoic island]

passmark comparison time
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-10875H-vs-Intel-i9-10850K-vs-Intel-i9-10920X/3726vs3824vs3632

[fossil cedar]

Also @stoic island why did you go with 3600cl18

And not cl16?

[neon anchor]

Wow

[stoic island]

@fossil cedar price

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[civic tusk]

Also the cas latency won't matter much for this

That has more impact with gaming than anything

[stoic island]

eh, this is prob more dependant on ram bandwidth rather than latency, but ye

[civic tusk]

Well yeah but on consumer platforms you can't really go past dual channel dual rank

So at that point latency is the next thing you can improve

This if for gaming anyway

So he might defo benefit from something from intel extreme platform due to being able to have quad channel memory

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it is a gaming /can run work on the side machine so idk

[fossil cedar]

But if they wanna game as well? And then engineering as a secondary, think that's what they wanted anyway

[civic tusk]

Getting 128gb of ram with decent latency is obviously going to be expensive

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but they have a 5k budget

[stoic island]

here's the question, is it worth spending an extra ~200$, on an Intel platform?

[fossil cedar]

Ohh i thought it was only 80$ nvm

[stoic island]

it's like 690$ to 820$ but ye

[fossil cedar]

Ahh fair fair

[little osprey]

[neon anchor]

Ok so I messed with it a bit, I’m just gonna go with the 64gb cl16, i don’t need as much ram if it’s just occasional work

[fossil cedar]

Sure, do you want to send in the list?

[stoic island]

ye, show us the edits

[neon anchor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XbMzcT

Thinking of other things I might wanna throw in. How is the RGB controller/compatibility between the case and ram?

[fossil cedar]

Ram doesn't need rgb controller

It's done through bios

[neon anchor]

Huh cool, i meant to be in synch with the case

[fossil cedar]

You don't need a WiFi card, the mobo has it built in

Ehh idk rgbs i mess i leave it alone tbh

[neon anchor]

My point is I want it to be AX wifi compatible for when I upgrade my router as well

Oh holy crap it is wifi6 compatible

[muted patio]

ya, this is the same onboard wifi

[neon anchor]

Nut

[fossil cedar]

It is, onboard wifi nowadays is just as good as a card

[neon anchor]

Thats really surprising to me because it used to not be that way

[fossil cedar]

Yeah wifi is kinda reaching a high standard as normality

[modern shadow]

is this list fine? making it for a friend, ignore monitor

dont worry about budget, just lower the better

[muted patio]

Ya looks fine

[modern shadow]

thx

[stoic island]

is fine

[neon anchor]

“Ignore the spill”

[frank stirrup]

cant wait for ipv6 to be a thing where i live

[fossil cedar]

just use ethernet XD

[frank stirrup]

me?

isps just dont provide ipv6 addresses where I live

its all ipv4 only

[fossil cedar]

i read that as wifi 6 im blind

[fossil cedar]

what does ipv6 even do

also how do you know if your isp supports or not?

[frank stirrup]

better security and more efficient packet processing are the 2 main ones iirc

[fossil cedar]

ahh

id assume my things support

[frank stirrup]

https://test-ipv6.com/

unsend

it has ur ip

dont want people seeing that

[fossil cedar]

shhh

[frank stirrup]

also yee u no have ipv6 address

[fossil cedar]

sad

this mean anything?

[frank stirrup]

lol yep

[potent portal]

Funny, I only have an ipv6 address.

[frank stirrup]

the WHAT?

no wait

how

[potent portal]

The ipv4 address things detect is the 6to4 tunnel

[fossil cedar]

i mean my speeds are only 120 down 12 up so

[frank stirrup]

ahh makes sense

[frank stirrup]

ehh

pretty much the same

[potent portal]

My ISP only assigns an ipv6 to my modem, no ipv4 configuration exists in it

[fossil cedar]

damm

[frank stirrup]

speed doesnt make a difference in deciding whether ipv6 or ipv4

[fossil cedar]

i find it so weird that in us up usually same as down

[frank stirrup]

fiber

[potent portal]

Steam hates this, their ipv6 translation is garbage

[fossil cedar]

yeah ik its just meh and the wifi been kinda 💩 atm need to ring my isp i think

[frank stirrup]

cable has up at about 20 ish everywhere

[fossil cedar]

ahh

[potent portal]

I have to use a VPN just to use steam lmfao

[fossil cedar]

that sucks

[muted patio]

srsly?

[potent portal]

Yeah, when it's starting it's about a 75% chance it'll just say "failed to connect to network" but that never happens on my vpn

[frank stirrup]

thats stinky

[frank stirrup]

upgraded to the 200mbps plan 10 days or so back

[muted patio]

DNS issue or have you confirmed IPV6?

[frank stirrup]

havent seen speeds of over 130mbps yet

[muted patio]

What's your modem

Might not have enough channels for that?

[frank stirrup]

I ring the ISP 2-3times every day for 10 days now

[fossil cedar]

with the non 200mpbs modem right

[potent portal]

My ISP only assigns ipv6 addresses. Steam doesn't get along with ipv6.

[frank stirrup]

they changed out the modem

now their servers have a problem

[fossil cedar]

oiof

why are they offering that as package tho

[frank stirrup]

my net speeds go from 30mbps to 120mbps

[fossil cedar]

bruh

[muted patio]

Gross

[frank stirrup]

They have "solved" like 7-8 service requests now without even looking into it

[neon anchor]

I get like up to 220down 30 up

[frank stirrup]

and tomorrow they will be getting an email calling them incompetent idiots

among other things

3rd email btw

look at that variation

the stability of my net is under the stability of the ground during a massive earthquake

[ripe wedge]

thats on wifi tho. could be ur routers bad

do ethernet

or is that on ethernet

[rich helm]

It’s not for me

[fossil cedar]

majority of ppl are like that from what ive heard anyway

[frank stirrup]

its the same

[frank stirrup]

I have an asus RT AC68U

heavily doubt my router is holding me back

but yes I have tried an ethernet run as well

[potent portal]

Only people that have fiber optics get down = up, and only people in city centers tend to have fiber available.

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i see

[rich helm]

I live in a very urban area and I still have cable

Fiber might be an option

Tho

Not sure

[potent portal]

I'm in suburbs and the fiber line runs right past my apartment, but it doesn't go to my complex. Ridiculous.

Comcast has a monopoly on the internet here, no reason for them to upgrade it with no competition.

[fossil cedar]

Big oof

[cold sorrel]

Hilariously, I live in a pretty rural area and we had fiber internet become available last year.

[frank stirrup]

I live in the 2nd biggest city in my state

no fiber in my area

[neon anchor]

I have high speed (comcast) but my town should be getting fiber by next year, because they want the competition to drive costs down

[rich helm]

The internet where I live is stupidly expensive

At least the company we use is

[south kite]

Lot of rural areas getting fiber through grants

I’m in a town of 4000 and have fiber.

[winged lion]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VbhmP6/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-650f14hg buy buy

[lapis rune]

Do I need to wipe the flash drive completely or can I just download windows on it?

[muted patio]

The windows installer will wipe it when it formats

[lapis rune]

@muted patio so only the windows download will go into the new computer and not the other files right?

[muted patio]

use the Windows Media Creation Tool to make the USB drive

It will create the windows installer for you

Any files on teh USB drive will be wiped/erased when you create it

[lapis rune]

Oh I see makes sense

Thanks again

[neon anchor]

Oh nice I did take a pic when Comsol used all of my ram

Sucks though because I basically can’t use it when this happens

[rich helm]

128gb time

[neon anchor]

Heh

Its a laptop

[supple gale]

Does the z490 require the Intel backplate for the h150i?

Or is it just, all Intel chips require it

Corsair install video is ass

Never installed a liquid cooling block before

[white blaze]

needs backplate

[supple gale]

Thanks

[rich helm]

32gb sodimms time

[neon anchor]

It’s dual 32gb, only has 2 slots

@rich helm

[rich helm]

dual 64gb time jk

[strange wadi]

I'm building a new computer what's a decent or good cpu that fits well or outperforms the 3600 on a Gigabyte z370P D3 ?

[neon anchor]

Lmao it just straight up won’t

[desert gulch]

9600k

9600kf if you dont need integrated graphics

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MQP5LNM?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

newegg has it for a few cents cheaper but its out of stock rn

[strange wadi]

Appreciate it very much Ryzen #freelili+sara!

[desert gulch]

yea np

[strange wadi]

I'll wait for when it's stock

[desert gulch]

ight

https://www.newegg.com/core-i5-9th-gen-intel-core-i5-9600kf/p/N82E16819117996?Item=N82E16819117996&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-4IDtyMBW.e_BUI_Rx7qxQQ

sry for long link but here it is

[strange wadi]

It's alright and thank you! : D

[earnest olive]

i would not buy a 9600KF for $189 + tax @strange wadi

look at the used market i7-9700K is commonly available for cheaper than that

and 8C/8T is a much closer match to 6C/12T

9600KF is 6C/6T

[strange wadi]

Ah, I see what you mean and I was thinking about that and due to all of the inflation that's been going on

[earnest olive]

price inflation is only on graphics cards

i've seen i7-9700K go for $175-200 used and that has no tax added

would be a much better choice as 6T is already showing to be problematic in some newer games

i7-8700K can also be pretty cheap on used market and you can consider one of those, it's firmly better than ryzen 5 3600

[supple gale]

So uh, the cpu power has this 8 pin and a 4pin but my psu only came with 4 pin wired and 7/8 pin wires

I have no 4pin

[earnest olive]

don't need it

8 pin is fine

[supple gale]

Weird

Alright then

[earnest olive]

the extra 4 pin is meant for extreme overclockers

[supple gale]

Ahh

Alright then thanks

[earnest olive]

any remotely normal workload will not exceed the limits of the 8 pins

[strange wadi]

I was thinking of Paring it with a Asus PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151

[earnest olive]

depends on what price you get it for

i picked up an ASRock Z370 Extreme4 for $64 recently

did a great job of overclocking the 8700K

[maiden hollow]

really just wish i could get a graphics card and finish my build

ffs

[earnest olive]

don't we all

[neon anchor]

Evga has the GT 210 in stock

Lmaooo

[earnest olive]

i mean it technically is a graphics card that will complete a build

[supple gale]

My case has no spot for a 2.5hdd

[earnest olive]

most 3.5" drive trays will have mounting holes to screw in a 2.5"

what case is it

[little osprey]

@neon anchorwhere

[supple gale]

275r airflow

Yeah I checked the 3.5 bays, they do

Thanks for the tip

Haven't built a pc in 10 years things have changed so much lol

[earnest olive]

no problem

i'm much newer to pcs

[potent portal]

Does the 210 even have hdmi? Lol

[earnest olive]

were 2.5" drives a thing 10 years ago

[little osprey]

210

sure hdmi,but idk dp

[earnest olive]

yes

[little osprey]

lol

no dp i guess

[earnest olive]

there's gt 210 with hdmi and dp

[little osprey]

oh lol

[earnest olive]

very few models have DP though

HDMI is more common

[earnest olive]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/palit-geforce-210-1-gb.b5838 this one has DP and no HDMI

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/evga-geforce-210-1-gb.b5581

this one has HDMI and no DP

[neon anchor]

I just said EVGA

[earnest olive]

both will be an.... uh... excellent gaming experience

[neon anchor]

Also i was being sarcastic because the 210 isn’t worth it

Yeah for the oregon trail

[earnest olive]

you might even be able to run 3d space pinball for windows xp

[neon anchor]

Or the original doom

[little osprey]

oh

i see b stocl

stock

hahah

[neon anchor]

Yep lol

How bad do you need one?

[supple gale]

How is someone supposed to cable manage an SSD in this case this is aids

[neon anchor]

An NVME or a sata ssd

[supple gale]

Sata ssd

Like

[neon anchor]

F

You dont

[supple gale]

They screw on to the back, but all the sata wires I got with the PSU hook at the end of the wire

It's so rip

[neon anchor]

Same as an hdd basically cable just goes straight to it, usually the ports on the mobo are really close so you have plenty of extra cable left over and its far away from the other cables so it kinda just hangs there

[supple gale]

[neon anchor]

[earnest olive]

id imagine something like this if using a sata port on the side of the mobo

or through one of the bottom cable management holes if at the bottom

this is where i had my sata data cable coming out in my old 275R

along with front panel and stuff

hope this helps @supple gale

a build i did where sata ports were only on the side of the mobo

[clever nebula]

Hello everyone I am new to the chat. I want to build a mining rig with parts from newegg but I need help finding the compatible parts.

[muted patio]

Mmmm, since no GPU's are available, building a mining rig is going to be really, really tough

Mining also doesn't rely on the CPU at all so any second hand cheap PC will do with some PCI-E x16 slots

[earnest olive]

if you think you can build a mining rig with parts from newegg you have a lot more research to do before you should even consider mining

not to mention if you think right now is a good time to get into mining

[potent portal]

PCIe x16 is only a soft requirement, you can use x2 or x4 slots with the end cut out so the GPU fits

[earnest olive]

pcie 2 x1 is enough electrically

bandwidth is not an issue

[clever nebula]

I have found 8 AMD 6700's from micro center... I hope I didn't make a bad investment. Why is now a bad time?

[earnest olive]

6700xt is a bad mining card

and right now is a bad time to get into mining because there's not much time left for it

[muted patio]

Yep

Eth going proof of stake soon

Rather than mining

[earnest olive]

profitability is already tanking, EIP 1559 in july will cut it even more, and then proof of stake at end of year will be the final nail in the coffin

[muted patio]

Bitcoin is all done with ASICS

[earnest olive]

other mineable coins will collapse as soon as former eth miners try to move over

lol

please do some research before dropping 10k on hardware

[clever nebula]

I have free power that's the reason I thought it would be somewhat a good idea. You guys are scaring me haha

[earnest olive]

scaring?

[clever nebula]

I know an insider that is saying ETH 2.0 isn't coming out anytime soon.

[muted patio]

Well

That's contrary to all the current information

[earnest olive]

i'm running 400 mh/s and saying it's a bad time to get in

not a mining farm or anything but a lot bigger than your average miner

it's not meant to be "scaring" it's just good advice

miners are not causing the gpu shortage

they are a compounding factor but the end of mining will not be the end of the gpu shortage

the 90% of gamers that think the shortage is 100% caused by miners are gonna be when the shortage doesn't magically disappear

i'm planning to flip all my gpus in full builds

[clever nebula]

Well in that case does anyone need brand new nivida 3060's and AMD 6700's?

[earnest olive]

have some gpu-less case-less builds ready

no selling allowed in this server lol

i'm kind of thinking about selling my gpus and getting out early in case price drops later

mining profitability isn't great right now

but i'll see if it recovers

only $30/day right now out of 4 3070s, a 3080, and a 5700xt

ouch

eth-usd rate is still in the gutter

peak was 92

[supple gale]

@earnest olive did help but the computer won't even turn on

Dunno what I did wrong

[earnest olive]

normal around 50-60

oh boy, diagnostics time

first do you have a part list

[supple gale]

💩

[earnest olive]

is it ryzen 5000 cpu

might need bios update

[supple gale]

Intel i7 10700k

[earnest olive]

okay that should be working without update

[supple gale]

No fan spin or mobo light either

[earnest olive]

no sign of life at all?

[supple gale]

24 pin is in

Nope

[earnest olive]

did you make sure power supply is switched on

[supple gale]

Yes lol

[muted patio]

8 pin CPU power?

[earnest olive]

hey man

a lot of people forget that

[muted patio]

You only mentioned 24 pin

[supple gale]

I know lmao

Yeah 8 pin is in

[earnest olive]

sooo

part list?

take a pic of build as is? flash on?

[supple gale]

Sec

Sorry for the sideway photo

[earnest olive]

made sure monitor is plugged into graphics card and not motherboard?

[supple gale]

Intel i7 10700k, Corsair vengeance 3200 ddr4

Mobo is a

7490-a pro

And yeah but I'm not even getting fan spin

Like doesn't even budge an inch

[potent portal]

Eth 2.0 won't be for at least another year, you could probably make your money back by then and the GPU shortage will likely still be happening so you can resell for about what you paid.
This is speculative but I'm in a mining server and one guy was talking to the main guy for eth (with screenshots for us as proof).

[supple gale]

No lights on mobo or anything

[muted patio]

UH

I think I found the issue

[supple gale]

🤔

[muted patio]

Looks like the front panel connectors are on a USB 2 port

[earnest olive]

oop

[supple gale]

No that's the Corsair controller

Front panel is in the bottom right

Bottom left is audio

[earnest olive]

try removing POWER SW jumper and shorting the pins manually to turn on

[supple gale]

How do

Shouldn't the mobo at least get idle lighting before turning it on?

Plugged in I get nothing

[earnest olive]

not all mobos do that

and out of the ones that do not all do it automatically

[supple gale]

Ah

Seems like it's not getting any power in the slightest

No beeps or anything when trying to turn it on

[earnest olive]

out of the front panel connectors

take off POWER SW

and use a screwdriver to touch them

[supple gale]

Well.

Jiggled the PSU wire and it turns on

[earnest olive]

lol

[supple gale]

Might be a bad wire

[earnest olive]

like the one going into the wall?

[muted patio]

Might not be fully seated?

[earnest olive]

or what wire

[supple gale]

Lmaooooo

Forgot to install the wifi card

But yeah the wire is fully in, I actually had to pull it out ever so slightly for it to turn on

[mint jungle]

F

[supple gale]

rip af

turns out i can't get into my bios

computer just boots straight to windows

[heavy jasper]

i would simply just remove all those pins\

[ancient wraith]

My usb devices keep disconnecting

What do I do

[lyric thistle]

😔

[ancient wraith]

Can anyone help

[supple gale]

what device is it
have you tried another port
have you tried another device in the same port
is it powered by usb only or does it have an external supply

[lyric thistle]

if a usb device draws too much power, the port or its parent hub will trip and disable to prevent damage, then you'll have to restart the computer to reenable it

[frank stirrup]

5600x?

u had that cpu right?

[snow hatch]

does anyone know of a good bluetooth 5.0 adapter ;-;

for PC

[ancient wraith]

Its my key board and I have tried other slots

[frank stirrup]

on a b550 elite?

@ancient wraith

what cpu and mobo

[ancient wraith]

Yah

R5 3600

[frank stirrup]

and what bios version are you on

[ancient wraith]

I think the newest

But not the beta

[frank stirrup]

F12?

[ancient wraith]

Yah I think

The latest non beta

[frank stirrup]

So its the bios thats causing this

you have 2 options now

get the beta bios

OR

flash F3 bios

[ancient wraith]

I have f12

I just checked

[frank stirrup]

either flash F13h or F3 to fix it

[ancient wraith]

What's f3

[frank stirrup]

AGESA 1.1.0.0 is breaking usb connectivity with older chips

[frank stirrup]

A bios version

BTW its just the usb 2 ports doing disconnects

[ancient wraith]

I'm using the ones with a plus over it

[frank stirrup]

send image of which ones

[frank stirrup]

yeah those are usb 2

[ancient wraith]

Oh

[frank stirrup]

the only 2 usb 2 ports on the back lol

[ancient wraith]

It just started happening

[frank stirrup]

use any other ports

should fix it

maybe

[ancient wraith]

Some one said I should only use those for my mnk

[frank stirrup]

nah

usb is usb

u can use for whatever

[ancient wraith]

Ok thank papi

[frank stirrup]

np

[strange wadi]

What's a good motherboard that's budget friendly for a i7-9700k ?

[earnest olive]

oh you don't already own a motherboard?

if you don't then i would get a newer cpu

i5-11400 or i5-10400 are great choices

[strange wadi]

I don't have either cpu or the motherboard, So i5-11400 or i5-10400, yet it's pricey

I was wondering of upgrading from the 3600 to get more of a performance

Reason of ugrading: Workstation related projects isn't enough

My Classes for Art, 3d Modelling and Video editing there's a few stutters here and there

[jagged ember]

I believe either of those cpus are cheaper than a 3600

But perform better overall compared to the 3600

[strange wadi]

Ah, looks like I'll getting a i5 11400 or i5-10400

Might have to do research on it

[fossil cedar]

If you already have the 3600 the i5s are just a waste of money to get not that huge of a difference, wait for 12th gen intel or Ryzen 6000 at least imo

Usually 1 gen upgrades are pretty meh

[fleet pagoda]

👍

[frank stirrup]

this isnt a build or a chat

lul

[fleet pagoda]

Its a flex kinda

[neon anchor]

#500103216466362379

[fleet pagoda]

Idk if u can classify a xbox as a flex

[frank stirrup]

[foggy bough]

how big of a psu do i need for a rtx 3090 and a ryzen 5 1600?

[fleet pagoda]

Ryzen 5 1600 w a 3090

Bro

Bottleneck

[stoic island]

Breh

What if they need the vram for blender or smth

[sacred kayak]

Buy a 5600x

[stoic island]

Smh

What if it's b350

[foggy bough]

got a 3090 for a good price i aint doing it lol

trust me its the best

[frank stirrup]

I dont

[sacred kayak]

Same

[sacred kayak]

F in the chat for future you

[frank stirrup]

Its not bad tbh