building-and-recc-chat

[muted patio]

yes, download that on the laptop and put it in a USB Thumb Drive

since your desktop is kinda borked

[vital kestrel]

Okay

[verbal quarry]

how good is the glacier one 240 aio?

[vital kestrel]

@muted patio did I do it correctly?

[muted patio]

ya

[vital kestrel]

Okay, so now I take this USB out and plug into my pc now, correct? After or before safe mode?

[muted patio]

after safe mode

[obsidian wigeon]

Windows goin jank be like

[muted patio]

I don't have a lot of info on that one

[vital kestrel]

Okay, so how do I start the program while it in safe mode?

[muted patio]

Open thumb drive and double click it

Just like regular windows

[vital kestrel]

So in the laptop or pc?

[muted patio]

Wait, take the thumb drive out of the laptop

Put PC into Safe mode

Put thumb drive into PC

[vital kestrel]

Okay

[muted patio]

Run Emsisoft

[vital kestrel]

So um, there’s a problem. It does the same vs in safe mode before, and all the buttons on the screen aren’t reactive.

[muted patio]

That is not a good thing

[verbal quarry]

would it be better then the rosewill 240 i have now?

[muted patio]

How old is this prebuilt?

[vital kestrel]

Ik 😂

Not even 2 years

[muted patio]

Most likely yes

[vital kestrel]

It will be 2 years on November 31

[muted patio]

Are all the fans spinning inside the case?

[vital kestrel]

Yes

[muted patio]

Like the CPU cooler fan?

[vital kestrel]

Yup

[muted patio]

Is it useable at all like can you open anything or nah

Can't click on anything huh

[vital kestrel]

Nope, only thing I can open is all the settings when your not on the desktop.

I can only get into task manager by shift + restart.

[muted patio]

Ok, do that

Tell me what the highest percentage is being used

at the top

cpu, memory, disk, etc

[vital kestrel]

Where do I find that @muted patio

[muted patio]

At the top there

That's the task manager screen

[vital kestrel]

Mike looks blue, and it doesn’t show all that lol.

[muted patio]

Well then, this is quite a pickle

[vital kestrel]

This is what it takes me to

[muted patio]

OH, that's not task manager lol

[vital kestrel]

Yes

[muted patio]

CTRL-ALT-DLT all at the same time

[vital kestrel]

Like in task?

[muted patio]

Hit exit and continue

Then hit CTRL_ALT_DLT at the same time to get the window I showed

[vital kestrel]

Okay, what is DLT? Lol

[muted patio]

delete

[vital kestrel]

Oh del?

[muted patio]

ye

[vital kestrel]

So right here?

[muted patio]

No, it should take you to a blue window that will have Task Manager at the bottom of the list

Arrow down to Task manager and hit Enter

[vital kestrel]

No I mean do I do the 3 things right on this screen

[muted patio]

Or use the mouse to click it

Oh no that's the sign in screen

sign in and get to desktop

then control alt delete

[vital kestrel]

Okay

@muted patio I’m here

[muted patio]

Task Manager

click it

[vital kestrel]

It just goes back to the blinking black tesk top... 😩

[muted patio]

ooof, that means it's taking it's dear sweet time to load up

Give it a minute

[vital kestrel]

Okay

[muted patio]

I think your hard drive might be bad at this point but I need to confirm

[vital kestrel]

Yeah it has the hour glass beside my mouse icon

Okay

[muted patio]

Anything yet?

[vital kestrel]

Sheesh nope

[muted patio]

ooofs

[vital kestrel]

Still just blinking

[muted patio]

Ahhhmmmmm

[vital kestrel]

Thanks for your help though, I appreciate you taking the time out of you day to try to help me with my problem. I’ll end up taking it somewhere tomorrow, and I’ll hope something works out.

[muted patio]

Mmmmm

I'm thinking

I don't suppose you have any spare parts

[vital kestrel]

Oop, okay

[muted patio]

XD

[vital kestrel]

Nope

😆

[muted patio]

K, that rules that out

I really think the drive is going bad and you just need a new one

[vital kestrel]

Yeah I supposed of that too.

[muted patio]

I think that's the issue, put in a new drive, install windows and see what files you can salvage off the old drive

Virus' don't really do this kind of thing

[vital kestrel]

Okay, so do I have to buy a new drive than?

[muted patio]

I would presume so yes but a shop might be able to take it out and check it to confirm

Without spare parts I can't really tell you 100% for sure what the issue is

[vital kestrel]

Okay.

[muted patio]

But I THINK it's the drive

[left isle]

actually if you go and find an old computer you can usually find big drives like 500 GB

dont quote me on that tho

[vital kestrel]

Lol, okay.

[muted patio]

If you have a shop close that you trust and are comfortable with then do that.

[vital kestrel]

Okay, sounds good to me.

[muted patio]

Just make sure they try to save your data

[vital kestrel]

Thanks for y’all’s help though.

Okay

[muted patio]

YW

[dense oriole]

Anyone free to help me figure out whats wrong with my pc and why it won't load please

[lyric thistle]

have you tried turning it off and on again

[dense oriole]

Yes

[obsidian wigeon]

How is it not booting? Like black screen, or?

[dense oriole]

It turns on, beeps once like normal but doesn't load anything on my monitors

[left isle]

tried blowing out cord inputs and outputs?

[dense oriole]

Nope? Didn't think to treat it like my old gameboy cartridges

[left isle]

yeah but dust can settle in and cause problems sometimes

[jagged ember]

instead of blowing, i would suggest unplugging and replugging monitor connections

[left isle]

that too

[jagged ember]

blowing is something i haven't heard in a long time lol

[dense oriole]

I've reset all connections on both monitors and back of pc

[jagged ember]

are you plugged into your GPU?

[dense oriole]

Yes

[jagged ember]

is your GPU securely locked into the PCIE slot?

[dense oriole]

Yes it's secure

[jagged ember]

is the pcie power cable securely inserted?

[dense oriole]

Also I just retried resetting my connections and decided to work this time

[jagged ember]

so it's good now?

[lyric thistle]

maybe a port is broken on either the gpu or the monitor

[dense oriole]

Hmm, maybe not

Screen turned blue

[jagged ember]

aw

[lyric thistle]

blue?

[left isle]

drive issue?

[jagged ember]

what do u mean blue

[jagged ember]

well, it's blue alright

[left isle]

are your drives all in and secure?

[jagged ember]

thats a strange occurence

[dense oriole]

As far as I can tell yeah

[lyric thistle]

must be windows screen that should have text in the middle

[jagged ember]

i suspect it could be windows

[dense oriole]

It loaded all the way to me putting my password in then turned blue

[left isle]

but its too bright to be windows

[jagged ember]

ah

reboot pc again?

[dense oriole]

Trying now

[lyric thistle]

it's a dimly lit room lol

it should match the theme in windows

[dense oriole]

Loaded fully working this time

Not an error I would like to see again tho, any clues ad to why

[jagged ember]

nice

windows break sometimes

no one knows why

[left isle]

dust, not plugged in all the way moniters

[jagged ember]

i'd say the latter

dust isnt an issue unless you literally never clean

I clean about every week or so

my pc, at least

[dense oriole]

i try to clean atleast once a month or so when i can and once every 6 months full rebuild

[left isle]

ooh.. mine is down stairs so i have to lug it upstairs to an air compressor

[dense oriole]

so just got back on, put my monitors back into place and knocked my pc and it fully restarted

[left isle]

was that inteneded?

[dense oriole]

nope

it laoded back up to the troubleshooting screen

so turn on and off again and now back to normal

[left isle]

just restart it i think.. it worked last time

[dense oriole]

turns on, beeps once like always, no visuals on both monitors, reseated all cables and nothing, switched out display port cables for hdmi and didnt load still, reseated gpu and all connections, no luck after that, reseated ram into alternate slots and still didnt load. still only had the 1 beep and no visuals on my monitors. reseated power supply and display ports on both monitors and turned back on, reloaded pc and got to my login screen, screen then turned a brightly coloured blue, similar to windows screen with no logo. restarted and it loaded fully, put monitors back into place and slightly nudged my pc case and full shutdown, had to restart and it has now loaded currently.

still unknown as to why any of these issues occured

specs:
ryzen 5 2600
b450m
1080ti
corsair vengance 2x8gb ddr4 3000mhz

[muted patio]

What power supply

wattage, brand and model

[dense oriole]

evga650bq

[icy thunder]

bro, how much does ibuypower cost just to build the pc

[dense oriole]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H78DJJQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[icy thunder]

im customizing a pc for a friend that is not as good as mine in every way and it costs the same amount

like good lord

[muted patio]

Interesting. It would seem the GPU is having issues since the single motherboard beep indicates a successful post. how old is it?

[dense oriole]

full build apart from gpu is almost 3 years old, gpu is about 1 year old now

[muted patio]

Only 1 year old, you got it new?

[dense oriole]

second hand but still brand new in box, all seals still on box

[muted patio]

Hmmmm, did you register for warranty?

[dense oriole]

for my gpu, no, for everything else, it has ran out

[muted patio]

Might wanna register for that GPU if you can in some way

The other chance is that your power supply is on it's way out and can't supply enough power to the GPU

[dense oriole]

psu i might be able to try a different one tomorrow

[muted patio]

Make sure it's a 650W or better

It's worth a try

[dense oriole]

hmm will do

[astral pier]

Is this a good build and is everything compatible?

Idk abt PCs so I came here😁

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QBRYGq

[muted patio]

Actually, not bad but two things need a desperate change

[muted patio]

First that Aresgame PSU HAS to go lol. For a 3060 all you need is 650 Watts. Also the Kraken is overpriced for what it is, check the EK RGB 240mm or the Lian Li Galahad.

This PSU is just fine for what you have https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3F2rxr/corsair-cx-2017-650w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020122-na

[signal scarab]

i can buy a prebuilt pc with a 3090 for 2220 dollars and then i can take the 3090 out and put it in my current pc its like buying a 3090 for half off rn

like 1/3 off actually

[astral pier]

Thank you

[muted patio]

YW. The rest of it looks fine.

[rich helm]

where you finding a prebuilt with 3090 for 2200 lol

[signal scarab]

in canada they have some in stock

[rich helm]

thats the price of like 3070 prebuilt

[rancid lodge]

Prebuilt has an i3-9100 and 8 gb of 2666 RAM

[lyric thistle]

cool

[rancid lodge]

I actually have no idea but 2200 for a prebuilt with a 3090 does sound kinda generous

2200 CAD in USD is uhhhhh

1,800 damn

[gusty abyss]

that's the price of a 3090 by itself lul

[lyric thistle]

free computer

[rancid lodge]

It’s gonna have a fourth gen i3 and 4gb of budget 2666 at that price lol

[lyric thistle]

wh

send link

[rancid lodge]

Yes

[covert vapor]

But you said "Prebuilt has an i3-9100 and 8 gb of 2666 RAM", so is it a 4th gen i3 and 4gb or 9th gen

[rancid lodge]

No I actually have no clue what the specs are

[covert vapor]

...

[rancid lodge]

I already said that

[lyric thistle]

send link

[rancid lodge]

Was just speculating on what it’d have considering it’s legit 1800 USD and has a card worth 1500 USD at MSRP

[lyric thistle]

it doesn't exist without a link

[rich helm]

It’s not him who has link, it’s some guy above

[rancid lodge]

^

Scroll people scrolllll

[lyric thistle]

where link

[rich helm]

No link

They were trolling prob

[rancid lodge]

Idk hopefully @signal scarab sends it

Possibly?

Still if there’s a chance it exists it would be funny to see it, considering it can’t possibly be legit

[placid hawk]

can i get some help? i have no clue what to do but i kinda know what parts i need? - ive found a pc with cool specs and aesthetics that i want to copy, but using PC parts picker i cant find the part that was used in the PC

[fossil cedar]

Sure, what's your budget and what use is the pc for?

[placid hawk]

1-2k (but thats about 06-1.2k USD)

gaming

mostly warzone, apex, seige

i can link the video or my progress of the parts on pcpartpicker? if that helps

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bFJfRk

this is the build im trying to copy

idk how to get around the automod deleting yt links

[lyric thistle]

get lvl 3 m336

or just remove the .com

seems liek it worked tho

[placid hawk]

there is no .com

the yt link wont send, only the pcpartpicker link

[lyric thistle]

I bet pcpartpicker is mee6 whitelisted for lvl 1-2

[placid hawk]

well i managed to send the link fine

[fossil cedar]

Jeez no, what country are you from, theres pc part picker for different countries too

[placid hawk]

oh shi fr

NZ

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 1 sec

[placid hawk]

bruh im so stupid

[fossil cedar]

It's g lol

What's budget in nz? 1k-2k?

That's a wide budget

Maybe narrow your budget down a bit so i know where too aim

[placid hawk]

uhhh

well the budget isnt a huge deal, i just want a decent pc for FPS titles

i kinda want to copy the one i found

cuz it looks cool as and ran the games well

@fossil cedar if i was to pick a budget id say between 1.5-2k NZD

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen 3000 shouldn't be purchased in 2021 really better alternatives

[placid hawk]

i can dm the link to the video

i dont know what anything means

im so lost

[fossil cedar]

When you said fps games at decent so you mean like competitive esports

Or?

[placid hawk]

well, better than casual gameplay

[fossil cedar]

The cpu shouldn't be purchased in 2021 because there's better alternatives for same price /cheaper

Okay

[placid hawk]

preferably around 80+ fps on high/max graphics settings for a 1440 monitor

i understand thats probably the case but i also thought i would just take the L and follow the build 1:1 cuz then ik atleast it’ll work

[fossil cedar]

Grand

Dw

It's really like adult lego

[placid hawk]

everyone says that

[fossil cedar]

Pretty much all the stuff fits one way

[placid hawk]

but im about ready to give up or buy pre built

[fossil cedar]

And everything is pretty interchangeable

[placid hawk]

okay

whats does CPU stand for

core processing unit?

so thats like

the brains right?

to compare that to an iphone its like the idk A10 bionic chip right?

[fossil cedar]

Close, central not core

Yeah

[placid hawk]

ok that makes sense

so it’s important to how fast the pc is gonna run

[fossil cedar]

Technically phone use an soc like system on a chip but dw bout that

Kinda yeah

[placid hawk]

okay

i guess if i follow this build

but swap out the CPU for a better one

it should still be easy to follow?

since CPU’s are pretty similar and easy to install from what ive seen

[jagged ember]

just don't jam them in really hard

align the stupidly tiny triangles together

[placid hawk]

okay

[jagged ember]

basically you're just lightly dropping the cpu in

[placid hawk]

ok

[jagged ember]

hold it by the edges, too

[placid hawk]

if i have nothing what should my overall budget be for the entire build? (pc, monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset, chair even)

[jagged ember]

that's for you to determine haha

how much money are you willing to spend on a pc?

[still roost]

Four#1107 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[jagged ember]

oop no swores

[placid hawk]

not sure

i want good specs that will last a few years

[jagged ember]

mm

well, we won't shove you something crazy

you need a lot of peripherals though, it sounds like

[placid hawk]

im willing to spend up to maybe 2.5k total on a setup

yeah

[jagged ember]

okay, that's a good start

[placid hawk]

so should i budget like 1.5 for pc?

or what do u suggest?

[jagged ember]

we'll look at market prices

what country?

[placid hawk]

New Zealand @jagged ember

[jagged ember]

cool

i've been once

there was a lotta green

[placid hawk]

aha yeah

where u from?

i dont even know where to start when it comes to mouses, monitors, headsets etc.

[jagged ember]

Canada

okay, pcpp is being a bit difficult in terms of prices for certain parts lol

what stores can you buy pc hardware from?

[fossil cedar]

@placid hawk https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/yrcgW3

A 3060 or 3060 ti whichever you can get your hands on

[jagged ember]

pog

[placid hawk]

well uh

[jagged ember]

his budget was around like 2.5k fyi

that's peripherals included

[placid hawk]

here in NZ our biggest pc part retailer is probably PB tech

[fossil cedar]

1.5-2k

Ohh

[jagged ember]

ah

well, 531.66 is some wiggle room

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i figured 700 nzd sounds about right for a 3060 ti

[jagged ember]

mm

[fossil cedar]

Bout 550ish usd

But yeah

[jagged ember]

haha we picked same psu

[placid hawk]

how much should i budget for pc and how much for peripherals?

[fossil cedar]

Because there's like 12 good psus in the entirety of nz lol

[placid hawk]

if my overall budget is 2.5k roughly

[jagged ember]

i kinda noticed that lol

[fossil cedar]

Ehhhh

1080p 144hz monitor should be like 300 nzd ish

Then a 60ish mouse

You can get a crappy keyboard to start off with if needed

[placid hawk]

so much information

[jagged ember]

oh frick my mobo and my cooler has no price

hekk

shh

[placid hawk]

good god

$700

for one part

[fossil cedar]

Spensive

[placid hawk]

is it worth spending thst much?

[fossil cedar]

It's because of shortage etc

Yes

[placid hawk]

is that like top of the line?

[fossil cedar]

No

[placid hawk]

f me

half my budget

on one piece

[fossil cedar]

Prices are inflated

[jagged ember]

lol i'd like to check prices for local stores, but

dunno any local stores in NZ

[placid hawk]

okay so comparing youre two builds whats the differences

and which should i go for

and why

ik Fox’s build is like $400 cheaper

[fossil cedar]

The price is 400usd but i figured conversion +tax +inflation due to graphics card shortage

[placid hawk]

is the fps gonna be the same? and graphics

[jagged ember]

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/kGjR3Z

[fossil cedar]

Fox forgot a few parrs prices that's why lol

[jagged ember]

for the 3 coolers get whichever is the cheapest

[placid hawk]

fml

[fossil cedar]

Only the gammaxx is available in nz

[jagged ember]

maybe i should have gone 11th gen

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

I5 11400

[jagged ember]

mm

[fossil cedar]

And the psu meh

[placid hawk]

what is the performance difference between a 1.5k and a 2k pc

[fossil cedar]

Rm not equal rmx

Also no price on the mobo fox smh

[placid hawk]

whats a mobo

motherboard

[jagged ember]

yeah I know

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[placid hawk]

proud of that

ngl

[jagged ember]

i wanted to check local stores but idk any

[placid hawk]

PBtech

[fossil cedar]

Also the drive situation a little wack

[placid hawk]

is pretty much the only option

[jagged ember]

2tb mass storage tho

[placid hawk]

we have very few options here in NZ

[fossil cedar]

Sn550 way cheaper in nz

[jagged ember]

for the same capacity thats true

[placid hawk]

[jagged ember]

but also like SN550 isn't nearly as good as Pilot-E

but then again, will they be able to use that overhead...

[fossil cedar]

It's pretty good, better than the sn750

[placid hawk]

what is the performance difference between a 1.5k and a 2k pc

[frank stirrup]

As long as you dont mine chia on an sn550 its fine

[frank stirrup]

20% or so

[fossil cedar]

Atm a missing motherboard and a lot considering they're using an i3

[placid hawk]

but in general

[jagged ember]

and DRAMless

makes me sad

[placid hawk]

like FPS wise

[fossil cedar]

Also what's up with the case

[jagged ember]

will slow as it gets fuller

[placid hawk]

is there a huge difference?

[jagged ember]

hey, nothing wrong with the case

[potent portal]

Chia calls it "farming" 😉

[fossil cedar]

Seems expensive

[frank stirrup]

@placid hawk

[jagged ember]

well, yours was more expensive :(

[frank stirrup]

I call it a war waged against ssds

[placid hawk]

yeah but like in actual numbers @frank stirrup

like

[frank stirrup]

20% is a number lmfao

[potent portal]

Yeah like we needed another mass buy and scarcity problem

[placid hawk]

would a 1.5k pc get more than 60fps on warzone on a 1080p monitor?

[fossil cedar]

I'd say more than 20% considering they wanna play fps titles tbh

[placid hawk]

[frank stirrup]

on average

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the details but most it's hard to tell

[placid hawk]

i just wanna be sure that for all my money im gonna be able to get competitive fps

[jagged ember]

okay, patokav's price is pretty close to mine

after that mobo lmao

[frank stirrup]

a 1000$ pc can do that

[fossil cedar]

Yeah lol

[placid hawk]

oh god this is complex

[fossil cedar]

That's about what they have but 1000 usd not nz

[frank stirrup]

grab a 2nd hand 3600 and an old card like a 570

and a b450 board

and a 500W psu

[fossil cedar]

Meh

[frank stirrup]

3600 mhz ram

[fossil cedar]

There's literally 12 psus in nz

[fossil cedar]

Was a 60$ difference

[frank stirrup]

and warzone at 75fps

[frank stirrup]

worth it for amd tbh

[placid hawk]

if i lower the graphics of warzone will i get 120 fps easily?

[frank stirrup]

I saw a 15-20% perf increase going from 3200 to 3600

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but you can't count on thwm getting used

[placid hawk]

idrc about graphics much

[frank stirrup]

specs?

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the parts but yeah I'd say so

[placid hawk]

no clue

okay well

[fossil cedar]

But i put intel so meh

[frank stirrup]

Then get a clue

[gusty abyss]

I didn't realize until yesterday how cpu bound warzone is

[fossil cedar]

Quite a bit

[frank stirrup]

No lmao

[fossil cedar]

Most fps titles are

[placid hawk]

[frank stirrup]

1080p resolution is cpu bound

[gusty abyss]

my 3070 sits at like 60% most of the time when I play

yeah it's 1080p lol

[frank stirrup]

inn task monitor?

[fossil cedar]

It is

[gusty abyss]

in afterburner

although that might not be best

[fossil cedar]

Afterburner is fine

[frank stirrup]

Any game in 1080p is more cpu bound compared to higher res

[frank stirrup]

Depends on settings

[gusty abyss]

yeah I just didn't expect it to be that heavy on my setup, but it makes sense

[frank stirrup]

everything low yes since you arent making the gpu work really

[fossil cedar]

Competitive settings , but it's a CPU bound game

[frank stirrup]

as you change to high it becomes gpu bound very very fast

[frank stirrup]

Its really not

Warzone all low is cpu bound

becomes gpu bound when you increase video setting very fast

[gusty abyss]

rtx ON

[fossil cedar]

Well when ppl want competitive fps they go low settings

[frank stirrup]

warzone doesnt have lmfao

[jagged ember]

it do

[gusty abyss]

yeah it does

[jagged ember]

just does nothing

[gusty abyss]

came in an update like a week ago

[frank stirrup]

MP has

warzone doesnt

[jagged ember]

wz definitely does

i'm like 100% sure

[frank stirrup]

nop

the slider makes 0 difference in warzone

its not implemented

it works only in mp and campaign

since same app for both it still has the setting tho

[gusty abyss]

it was added in a very recent update

[frank stirrup]

unless teh update came 10 mins back warzone ray tracing isnt a thing

also yee argue with nvidia

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/news/gfecnt/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-pc-out-now-with-ray-tracing/#:~:text=Ray tracing is available now,Special Ops co-op modes.

[jagged ember]

oh

huh

well then why is the RTX option even in warzone

[frank stirrup]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-in/geforce/news/january-2021-rtx-dlss-game-update/

[gusty abyss]

I think I had it confused with the recent dlss 2.0 update

[frank stirrup]

same launcher for MW and warzone

[jagged ember]

bleh

stupid

[frank stirrup]

same app download in blizzard

[jagged ember]

lazy developers

same menu for different games

[gusty abyss]

nice double post

[frank stirrup]

Your point being?

[lucid breach]

I’m with you. It’s not in warzone

[gusty abyss]

yeah I goofed and thought it was part of the dlss 2.0 update in april

[frank stirrup]

exactly

[lucid breach]

I probably should have clarified what side I was with lol

[gusty abyss]

yeah but you just posted what crai already posted

[lucid breach]

I’m aware. I assumed you wouldn’t have gone through that article

[gusty abyss]

well screw you too I guess

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

be nice

[gusty abyss]

no, don't just go around making bad faith assumptions about people

[frank stirrup]

well you did that about what i said...

lmfao

[lucid breach]

You were being hard headed no matter how much craipop told you it wasn’t. Soooo 🤷🏻‍♂️

[gusty abyss]

I disagree, but fine

[frank stirrup]

It was a perfectly reasonable assumption considering he highlited a part of the entire article I sent

[gusty abyss]

so hard headed

really refused to admit I was wrong there

[lucid breach]

And it took the article being sent for you to finally get that you were wrong about but sure bud.

[jagged ember]

but wasn't the point that you assumed we didnt read the article?

which he did and admitted he was wrong afterwards?

he really wasn't that hardheaded

if he was, he'd still be denying it

[lucid breach]

Okay bud.

[jagged ember]

👍 glad we reached a resolution

[lucid breach]

I’m just not trying to derail the channel that far lol.

[jagged ember]

yeah, thats fair

[lucid breach]

Any of you use xpg ram? I’ve never heard of the brand

[jagged ember]

reputable brand

i think it's a mid range brand

[potent portal]

Pretty common, average quality chips as far as overclocking in the midrange

I have a 4133c19 set that's b-die

They have high end too lol

[jagged ember]

oh cool

[lucid breach]

Hmm. I was debating between that because it’s on the cheaper end but I figured I should just go with some g.skill tridentz

[potent portal]

Gskill is always a solid choice, very high compatibility

It's up to you in the end, assuming your motherboard doesn't have issues with either

[lucid breach]

Ah alright. Motherboard is an asus prime b550

[potent portal]

Yeah asus is fine with either

If it was asrock or gigabyte you'd have to check QVL

Assuming the specs are similar between the two kits you're considering, not much reason not to save a few bucks

[lucid breach]

Ah alright. The xrp is 3200 where the gskill is 3600

[potent portal]

What gen cpu? 5000?

[lucid breach]

Ryzen 5 5600

[potent portal]

You'll want the higher clock kit probably unless garbage timings.

[fossil cedar]

Have a look out for ballistix too

Their 3600 is sometimes the cheapest as well as really good

[potent portal]

If they're in stock yeah good option. Been a little scarce, though.

[fossil cedar]

Ohh really?

Popular demand i guess

[lucid breach]

390 for 4x8gb compared to 240 for 4x8gb of gskill

And only 3200

[potent portal]

Pcpartpicker price? Or just Amazon?

[lucid breach]

Newegg price

[potent portal]

2x16gb is cheaper

[lucid breach]

I thought it was better to run 4x8

[potent portal]

Technically yes but it's a minute difference, and will put more strain on your memory controller

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#m=1,11,12,17&S=3600,5100&Z=32768002,32768004&F=6000000,10000000&sort=price&page=1

[fossil cedar]

Also 2x16 gives you room to upgrade if you choose

Btw the 2 cheapest in that are 3600cl18, imo it's worth the 20 extra for 3600cl18 for the ballistix ones

[potent portal]

Yeah it's worth getting the 3600c16 for sure, better dies

[frank stirrup]

Falcie I need your opinion on a thing

XMP

OC

anything I need to work on further?

samsung c die

[potent portal]

Oof c-die. See if it's stable running slightly more voltage and try to drop those primaries. Probably won't work but won't know until you try.

[fossil cedar]

Doubt consider my c die did not like but considering x570 board might be able to hand better than b450 ds3h lol

[potent portal]

As it is that's a respectable overclock for that die

[frank stirrup]

More voltage isnt recommended for c die... its already 1.35

Also thers no real airflow over my ram so I really dont wanna increase voltage

[potent portal]

Not recommended because it typically won't scale past 1.35 but my similar kit liked 1.37
Airflow is only a concern at around 1.5v

[frank stirrup]

Ahh I see so its not really dangerous?

1.37 is fine daily?

[potent portal]

No, jedec spec requires 1.4v to be safe for xmp on all dies

1.45v is common xmp for b-die

Mine is running at 1.52v daily rn

[frank stirrup]

so basically 1.4 is fine for any ddr4 ram

[fossil cedar]

Im gonna have to redo my ram oc because of bios update

[potent portal]

Yes but c-die doesn't often scale much past 1.35v, that's why the guides say that

Won't know until you try it

[frank stirrup]

I always save a backup of all my settings on a flash drive before update

[frank stirrup]

I see

ill raise it to 1.37 and try

[potent portal]

It's not good to load a profile from another bios version

[fossil cedar]

I didn't know you could do that was first time doing bios update lol

Also i tried to redo but when booting to windows got greeted by a blue screen lol

[frank stirrup]

I open with editor and copy stuff over. or put in a pendrive and take screenshots

[potent portal]

Some boards won't even let you use an old profile

But I've got all my settings memorized by now anyway from all the resets lol

[frank stirrup]

F

thats a lotta resets

[potent portal]

LLC is commonly missed

[fossil cedar]

Don't think i have llc tho

[potent portal]

Yes you do

[fossil cedar]

Really? I couldn't find it last time?

[potent portal]

It's a chipset feature

[fossil cedar]

Ohh

[potent portal]

Usually under some sort of advanced power settings

[fossil cedar]

I see

Anyway i won't tinker today or at least till later got an exam in a few hours

[frank stirrup]

llc 4 good

for my chip

[potent portal]

Yeah my setup is happy there too

[fossil cedar]

Don't wanna mess with system then be scrambling to get working again in time lol

[frank stirrup]

mine does 4.4 all core at 1.28V llc 4

3600x

[fossil cedar]

Hmm weird I'll have a look although last time i checked i couldn't find

[umbral silo]

hello i'm new!!!!!

[frank stirrup]

hello new im Craipop

[umbral silo]

do you from spain

?

[potent portal]

Stole my joke, I was typing the same lol

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laptop-fast-homework-apple-gif-5315897

[fossil cedar]

Lmao

[frank stirrup]

Im speed

[potent portal]

We're a US based server but we have a few members in other countries

[umbral silo]

speedy

[umbral silo]

ooookkkkkkkkkk

[fossil cedar]

cries in eu XD

[frank stirrup]

my keyboard do be skipping keys because testmem rn

[frank stirrup]

cries harder than you in asia

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-laptop-coffee-sleepy-at-work-gif-14498561

[potent portal]

I'm on mobile, autocorrect hates me

[frank stirrup]

everyone

[fossil cedar]

Same i just turned mine off got sick of it

[frank stirrup]

did the spanish dude get banned?

nope

[potent portal]

If I sent what my keyboard thought I was typing people would think I was having a stroke

[frank stirrup]

My discord had a seizure

becase extreme anta

[lyric thistle]

I often send stroke texts

[frank stirrup]

smae hree

[lyric thistle]

correcting is too much effot :sunga

[frank stirrup]

Tho the absolute king of stroke texts in the server is floppa when he uses all caps

[potent portal]

For example, I'm flint to two to quickly type on this crayfish decode

[frank stirrup]

when no all caps his typing is fine

[frank stirrup]

LMFAO

thats some next level stuff

Must be hard to type on a crayfish

[fossil cedar]

Big mood

[fossil cedar]

Typing and decoding

[frank stirrup]

yep

I dont know how you manage it falcie

[potent portal]

Nono the crayfish is helping me decode, it's the cipher

[fossil cedar]

Very impressive

Ohh ofc

[frank stirrup]

makes sense

is it CRAYzy good?

[potent portal]

Believe it or not that's with autocorrect off

That's the swipe to type keyboard

[fossil cedar]

You use swipe to type ?

[frank stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-smile-whut-weird-stare-gif-16592004

[fossil cedar]

Oof

Wow fal must really by using that crayfish decoder

[frank stirrup]

swipe to type on iphones is pretty nice

[frank stirrup]

Crayfish working extra hard

[potent portal]

Welp I've got about 3 hours to sleep before I need to pick up the donuts for my son's birthday breakfast, g'night

[frank stirrup]

GN have a good one

[cinder field]

Hey guys! If i build a new dekstop after all and i want all my files and everything i have on my pc now to be on my new one that would be possible?

[frank stirrup]

Easily possible

[cinder field]

I'm very bad with pc's. Are they on my ram and my ssd all those?

[frank stirrup]

Stuff saved on ram gets cleared with every restart

Files are saved on ssds and hard disks

[cinder field]

Thank you!

[frank stirrup]

Yw

[granite field]

.gm everyone

[stoic island]

morn

[granite field]

....

[verbal quarry]

Is the phanteks glacier one any good?

[fossil cedar]

For aios, arctic liquid ii, ek aio or lian li galahad

They the best

[verbal quarry]

Ok

But is the glacier one any good?

[fossil cedar]

Ehh idk

But the arctic is cheaper and the best soo

Then ek is the best for rgb

And ek sameish price

[verbal quarry]

Ah dang the ek has a 350mm hose

I need 400

[fossil cedar]

Why?

Just mount it with tubes at top, they'll still be under pump if mounted in the front

[verbal quarry]

I van only really explain this with my pc

If I get 400 it fits perfectly and I don't have to worry about air bubbles

[fossil cedar]

You can use the rad the other way

You won't get air bubbles other way either

[verbal quarry]

It doesnt sit right sadly

Clearance on the top

[fossil cedar]

Because pump is below top of rad

Ohh

[verbal quarry]

Yea

[fossil cedar]

Would you not just keep the one you. have?

[verbal quarry]

They are know to leak and have wiring issues

Don't really wanna risk the mobo for a cheap aio

It was a gift anyway so it didn't affect budget

[verbal quarry]

Also another crazy thing is the pump is actually sitting in the rad fins

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i see

[teal linden]

Guys

Are ripjaw V rams only for intel?

Cuz i bought one it got intel logo on it XD

[jagged ember]

uh, no

[muted patio]

That's just marketing

[jagged ember]

my ripjaws V work with my amd cpu

[muted patio]

My "Intel" ripjaws is doing just fine with my 3700x XD

[teal linden]

Yeah i got 4000mhz cl16 ripjaw hopefully it works with my 5950x cpu

[muted patio]

It will

But you probs won't get to 4000 mhz with the amd FCLK

Probs 3800 with tightened timings

[teal linden]

Oh i see goddamit

[muted patio]

Yeah, AMD promised 2000 FCLK and hasn't delivered really well :/

[frank stirrup]

Ayo congrats on the mod racer

well deserved

[muted patio]

TY

[stoic island]

@muted patio btw, we got a review on ek aio elite, push pull does very little

[muted patio]

Ya

Push pull does very little in general

Maybe 2-3 degrees

[stoic island]

@muted patio it was .5 degrees so yea

[muted patio]

OOOOFFFFF

[distant otter]

would push or pull make that much of a difference though?

[muted patio]

Push is better

for rads and air coolers

[distant otter]

i had figured i had just never seen a comparison

fans don't like being choked out

[muted patio]

It's better to build pressure behind the blades than to make them suck air, if that makes sense

[distant otter]

but i didn't know push & pull had that little of a difference, i figured it was a tad bit more lol

[muted patio]

Nah

Basically the fans fight themselves

[distant otter]

that makes sense, i had a scavenging effect like that on a friends build cause the air cooler was too close to the rear exhaust fan it was tricky to get them to be synced so the air went across the cpu cooler better

[civic gate]

When I start up my pc (just built, no windows yet) I get this screen... however my keyboard and mouse aren’t working so I can’t access the BIOS menu... tried resetting cmos, still not working

[stoic island]

try different usb ports

and different keyboards

[civic gate]

Tried different USB ports, don’t have another keyboard

my keyboard lights up like it has power but it won’t react, same with the mouse

[stoic island]

ick

[muted patio]

It's detecting the KB

But it says 3 KB Detected

[stoic island]

that's prob just assuming other USB devices as keebs

[muted patio]

And a hub

What all do you have plugged in to this thing?

[stoic island]

ye

and do you have f1 on your keyboard

[muted patio]

Unplug all controllers and everything that's not a KB or mouse

[stoic island]

(fn layer things on 60% might get wacky)

[civic gate]

A mouse, HDMI, and a keyboard... nothing else

[stoic island]

unplug mouse

[civic gate]

okay

[stoic island]

do you know if there's anyone you can borrow a keyboard from?

[civic gate]

no

[muted patio]

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[jolly pebble]

any recommendations for PC parts for a PC build my budget is 500 bucks for PC and i need case

[stoic island]

decent shuffle

@civic gate gib full list for build?

[civic gate]

1 sec

[stoic island]

for doing what

[jolly pebble]

run csgo

or gaming

[civic gate]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T3vZy4

[muted patio]

60% keeb, Mr1111 called it

[stoic island]

lel

everything should be compatible

I'm just guessing the keyboard is having trouble with FN layer without drivers

since you don't have a dedicated F1 key

[muted patio]

Ye

[stoic island]

@civic gateany chance you could walk over the walmart or something and quickly buy a random 5$ office keyboard?

[civic gate]

not today no... but maybe tmrw

No clue

[stoic island]

might just be recognizing keyboard as mice for some reason

[muted patio]

Ya

[stoic island]

but that shouldn't affect inputs

Anyways, might as well go through some other debugging too

[civic gate]

So now I have nothing plugged in and it says no mouse and no keyboard instead of 2 keyboards and a mouse

[stoic island]

plug only the keyboard in

[civic gate]

okay

[stoic island]

try to do whatever shortcut it is for F1 on your keyboard

usually like FN+1

[civic gate]

ITS WORKING

[stoic island]

lmao

[civic gate]

okay okay

[stoic island]

fn layer prob being weird before

[civic gate]

I got this one now

anything I should before installing windows at this screen

[stoic island]

gud

xmp

[civic gate]

Emphasize

[stoic island]

it's on the left side of the screen

in the middle

it says xmp

[civic gate]

I enabled it

[stoic island]

that's all you need to do in bios

[civic gate]

okay

[stoic island]

You can shut it down, plug in usb stick for windows, and start windows installation now.

[civic gate]

how do I tune my fans so that they aren’t at 100% the whole time

[stoic island]

they shouldn't be 100% the whole time

fan curves should be stock

[civic gate]

oh okay

[muted patio]

Are they 3 pin fans?

[civic gate]

I can’t rlly tell if they are or not

[stoic island]

heck, cpu fan curve is on the screen xD

[civic gate]

Nah 4 pin ARGB

[stoic island]

uh

what

[muted patio]

huh

[civic gate]

Nevermind im dumb

[stoic island]

you mean 4 pin pwm that have argb?

[civic gate]

This

[stoic island]

there is no 4 pin argb

the argb connector is 3 pin

[civic gate]

that’s what I meant

[stoic island]

yeye

[civic gate]

I’m new to this

[stoic island]

just telling you info that you should know

confusing argb and pwm will give you a very bad time

(5v and 12v don't mix well)

[muted patio]

confusing RGB and aRGB will do the same :/

[stoic island]

anyways, you can move on to windows install now

[civic gate]

Okay

[civic gate]

Thanks boss

[stoic island]

:)

[little osprey]

What would be the best gpu for a b365 mini

[civic gate]

One more question, should I enable “intel rapid storage technology”

[muted patio]

No

[stoic island]

The heck

Is that their ramdisk thing or

[civic gate]

Idk

[muted patio]

Kinda, RAID too

[stoic island]

Tbh wouldn't be surprised if all it does is report smart data xD

[muted patio]

Yeah it's RAID and cache drive software

[stoic island]

Fun

What even is the proper term to call ram as cache

Ram cache
Ram drive
Cache drive

[muted patio]

Nah, it uses another drive as a cache for an SSD

[stoic island]

Ye

That's what I'm saying

Like primocache

[muted patio]

I call that software garbage and don't install it XD

[stoic island]

It's what I know does it :p

[civic gate]

Okay

I have to download windows from like an 8 year old laptop... and it is so slow

😢

[muted patio]

It's always slow creating installation media

Even my fast PC it's slow

[civic gate]

It’s been 5 minutes and it’s at 13%

[muted patio]

So I made a boot drive, labeled it and stashed it away

[muted patio]

ya, that's kinda normal XD

[civic gate]

yikes

This laptop sounds like it’s at max capacity, it is so loud and you can hear smell the heat

[odd cosmos]

building for a friend, how do you all think of this?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BYyHgt

[muted patio]

Change the AIO to EK 360mm or something, $250 for a 360mm is overpriced.
3600 C16 ram too

The WD blue isn't NVME, it's SATA

Snag a Mushkin Pilot E

PSU is overpriced

[odd cosmos]

whats the difference between c18 and c16?

[muted patio]

Get an Enermax Revolution DF 850W

[stoic island]

Speed

[muted patio]

Higher quality and less price

[stoic island]

It's cas latency

[rich helm]

Fairly normal, took me about 30 minutes I think

[odd cosmos]

dont think 20 dollars matters to them so that doesnt really matter

[civic gate]

rip

[stoic island]

11900k also a bit dumb tbh

[muted patio]

Enermax is higher quality though

[odd cosmos]

oh alr le,mme find

[stoic island]

@odd cosmos it's a better PSU for cheaper

[civic gate]

You a nice friend damn

[stoic island]

RM is literally CWT GPU with crappier caps

Revo df is CWT GPU modified to be multi rail

[civic gate]

don’t buy EVGA... I have it, it works fine but god damn these cables are stiff af

[stoic island]

Stiff is good tbh

[odd cosmos]

how much is the Enermax Revolution DF 850W?

[muted patio]

$129

[odd cosmos]

pc part picker does have price

oh ok

[stoic island]

Wait

@muted patio can na dia

[muted patio]

ohhhhh

pooo

[stoic island]

Poo indeed

[odd cosmos]

how mcuh is the EK 360mm?

[stoic island]

Do NZXT C then
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/hrqBD3/nzxt-c-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-np-c850m-us

[odd cosmos]

although it doesnt look as good and they care about looks more than performence

lol

[muted patio]

Canada changes all the things

[stoic island]

Too lazy to scroll up so link again
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BYyHgt

11900k still seems dum to me

Unless it's like 400cad

[muted patio]

11600K and OC to 11900K

[odd cosmos]

they want the best cpu so dont worry about that

[stoic island]

Uh

11900k isn't the best

By far

:p

[odd cosmos]

ryzen is beter right ikik

[stoic island]

11900k is just really dumb

[frank stirrup]

less latency

small number better

[stoic island]

Look at this for example
https://youtu.be/mxiuvQPL_qs

[odd cosmos]

but, i put intel there just bc they might not be able to get a gpu straight away so i will change that if something like a 3080ti comes out

any good ram?

and a good aio

[civic gate]

gskill trident

[frank stirrup]

5950x is the best cpu on the market

[odd cosmos]

ikik lol but i said i wil switch that

[odd cosmos]

wait it is?

[muted patio]

yes

[stoic island]

Ballistix sticks best sticks

Hehe

[odd cosmos]

how much is the 2tb version of the Mushkin Pilot E?

[muted patio]

Well Canada changes things

Samsung might be cheaper

[stoic island]

I would go check but mobile is dumb

[verbal quarry]

I love ballistix ram

[stoic island]

I'll check anyways

[odd cosmos]

got some for my set up

[odd cosmos]

ok

[civic gate]

Me with my Team T Force sticks

[frank stirrup]

epyc 7763 best cpu for multi threaded

[odd cosmos]

also hb aio?

[frank stirrup]

there is an nvme version as well

[stoic island]

My team sticks are absolute trash

[muted patio]

Nah

SN550 kinda meh

Mushkin is $150

[stoic island]

Sn550 is good tho

Just not great

[muted patio]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe1tb-d8

That's 1 TB tho

[stoic island]

WD blue is sata
Sn550 has a name, it's sn550

[verbal quarry]

I have a 970 evo plus

[odd cosmos]

yep found the 2tb version

[verbal quarry]

Don't know how that compares to those

[frank stirrup]

500gb is great... mushkin better value everywhere else

[muted patio]

2 TB NVME expensive in Canada ouch

[odd cosmos]

there isnt a rgb version of the Ballistix ram

mhm

[obsidian wigeon]

SN550 is one of few the dramless drives I adore

However.. SN750 here costs the same

In every capacity

[verbal quarry]

There is go to crucial website

Most of the time they are outta stock

[odd cosmos]

32g 3600 c16?

[verbal quarry]

Yup

[odd cosmos]

kay

[muted patio]

Ballisitx has rgb

[odd cosmos]

its not on pc part picker

[frank stirrup]

make sure you get 2 sticks btw

or 4

[muted patio]

Sure it is, what qty?

32GB

?

[verbal quarry]

They don't register crucial for some reason

[odd cosmos]

yea

32

they have a 3200 version

[muted patio]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/33WBD3/crucial-ballistix-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4bl

[frank stirrup]

bad for ryzen

[verbal quarry]

3600 way to go

[odd cosmos]

yea ikik

[verbal quarry]

Just make sure you set it that way in bios

[odd cosmos]

is the trident one better?

[muted patio]

Depends on the price

3600 C16 is 3600 C16

[frank stirrup]

kinda expensive mgl

[muted patio]

It's canada

[odd cosmos]

it looks better

[frank stirrup]

that makes sense

[odd cosmos]

hb AIO?

[verbal quarry]

Whats the budget?

[muted patio]

Canada prices kinda crazy lol but Lian Li Galahad is better than the NZXT and cheaper https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/gcsnTW/lian-li-galahad-aio-360-rgb-6917-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-galahad-aio-360-rgb-white

Can get in black or silver too

[odd cosmos]

no budget

he says he wants one of those ones that displays the gpu and cpu usage

[muted patio]

Welp

[odd cosmos]

lol

is there a good one?

[muted patio]

NZXT only

And their cooling is mediocre

[frank stirrup]

always decide budget first

ALWAYS

[stoic island]

Make the display yourself

[verbal quarry]

Wait isn't there a aorus aio with a screen?