#building-and-recc-chat

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grim smelt
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Or micro atx or however its called

frank stirrup
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What CPU do you intend to run on the board?

grim smelt
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Just not ATV

tight sorrel
grim smelt
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5800x

frank stirrup
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Ok gimme a bit

grim smelt
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Thats why I said or

tight sorrel
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Is you case and itx one?

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or can it handle mATX?

grim smelt
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O11d mini

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I think it could?

tight sorrel
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ok, so you can actually fit a full ATX if you wanted

grim smelt
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Yeah but i don’t think I can mount 360 aio on top

tight sorrel
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youre right. but mATX boards are much more affordable than iTX boards

grim smelt
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Ikkkk 😞😞😞

frank stirrup
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I mean any board you choose gonna start at the top anyway

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You can 100% fit in a 360 with an atx

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in that case

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atleast from what im seeing

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gimme 2 mins

grim smelt
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Really? Idk... what I hve rn is z73 and gskill trident z

tight sorrel
frank stirrup
tight sorrel
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ok

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thanks and regards

frank stirrup
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Form factor isnt = price

tight sorrel
frank stirrup
tight sorrel
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omg

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dude

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I mean

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you can see how that was an easy assumption to make

frank stirrup
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No

tight sorrel
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right, then you need english lessons

frank stirrup
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Hmm read context

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lol

tight sorrel
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yeah.. show me the context of ORIENTATION anywhere in our discussion

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
grim smelt
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Um so can u recommend me a good small to mid sized motherboard?

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Or would atx fit in?

frank stirrup
grim smelt
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Tyty

frank stirrup
tight sorrel
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and what does an 360 rad have to do with mobo ORIENTATION??

grim smelt
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I was gonna het msi mpg b550 gaming edge

frank stirrup
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you want me to send an ATX board for 180usd ish?

grim smelt
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Sure

frank stirrup
tight sorrel
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all of it. thanks and regards

frank stirrup
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you indeed are stupid

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enjoy the block

frank stirrup
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Otherwise a b550 aorus pro do be looking nice

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@grim smelt

grim smelt
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Tyty

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Whats ur opinion about msi mpg b550 gaming edge tho?

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One last question

fossil cedar
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Nice board, it's not itx tho, heard you where talking about that

frank stirrup
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or for a 5800X

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Its a good board

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just not a great one

drifting garnet
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I dont like msi dragon center

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I need to use if for rgb dont have a choice

tight sorrel
tight sorrel
drifting garnet
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Yeah, that is a plus I guess

frank stirrup
drifting garnet
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I wish I could use mystic light without the dragon center, but it doesn't work. I tried it.

tight sorrel
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yeah.. they changed it last year. ML used to be its own thing.

drifting garnet
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Dang

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Do they just want people to have their horrible software that bad?

tight sorrel
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I honestly cant figure out the reasoning behind it. I dont use DC for ANYTHING else. Its got a whole bunch of stuff that I just cant be bothered to look into

drifting garnet
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Yeah

stoic island
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meh, they're doing a thing of consolidating their software

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I used most parts of DC before, it's just annoying

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Their OCing is just yikes

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fan curves like to be overwritten

drifting garnet
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I actually use the fan curve thing

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Forgot about that

stoic island
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I do from time to time, but it's quite annoying when it seems like it's just being overwritten by bios fan curve

drifting garnet
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I actually haven't had that problem

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Surprisingly

stoic island
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It's just ramping up and down when I have it set to say 25% on DC

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

drifting garnet
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Can definitely see why that would be annoying

stoic island
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There's also my GPU ignoring all fan controls to a certain point

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very annoying

tight sorrel
white patio
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yo I am wondering if i should get a 3070 or a 3060ti ?

fossil cedar
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Whatever you can find for closest to msrp

wicked frigate
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What the msrp price for 1660 super

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Asus GeForce gtx

stoic island
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230$

wicked frigate
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Micro center is seeking it for 330 shouldn’t but

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Should I

lyric thistle
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better than amazon scalp prices

uneven oar
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I went to check on my other video card I have and that sucker is running up to 430 bucks!

muted patio
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That's a third party scalper

uneven oar
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yeah it is

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ughh. google trickery is in full display today

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it's actually not a bad card when you think about it

muted patio
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For $430? Can get a 3060 for that

uneven oar
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third party?

lyric thistle
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1650 is a decent card but

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not even for its msrp

muted patio
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$430 for a 1650 is highway robbery

uneven oar
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well yeah it is. This was a microcenter $165 ish

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this gpu shortage is no joke

muted patio
uneven oar
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anything new today??

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Gigabyte day

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Zotac 3090..bruh..

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i dunno, next build I'm doing is a mini build

empty cipher
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Everything is still out of stock. Sucks for everyone lol

stoic island
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Huh

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430$ for a 1650 eh

cold sorrel
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Maybe once I have this last college assignment behind me I'll treat myself by finally putting my new computer together. (I totally don't have a paper due by midnight I'm barely half done with.)

stoic island
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Nice

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Time to break 120wpm

cold sorrel
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Even if I don't finish, I'll turn in what I've got. Partial credit is better than a zero.

stoic island
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Prof doesn't accept late work?

cold sorrel
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Nope. The turn-in will disable at midnight.

stoic island
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Sad

cold sorrel
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Eh, it's not rated as being worth half my grade. I figure worst case it'll knock me down to a C from a B.

stoic island
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C do be sad

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Take out the secret keyboard and start typing 120wpm >:D

rich helm
stoic island
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@rich helm
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k8-tenkeyless-wireless-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32018252857433

Keychron | Wireless Mechanical Keyboards for Mac, Windows and Android
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I really want to grind and hit 120wpm on my k8 when I can though

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in 60s

blazing aurora
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that's a good kb

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types like a dream

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and has usb c

stoic island
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yes

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and can sound decently

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and has wireless

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and has hardware controlled rgb

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and has hotswap

rich helm
stoic island
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:(

rich helm
stoic island
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right now, T1s

rich helm
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I still have no idea about switches

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Idk what switches to get

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Was thinking like gateron blacks

stoic island
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I like tactile

wicked frigate
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Hey guys can someone build an 1000 amd budget

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My is using it for gaming and school work

fossil cedar
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But sure

wicked frigate
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Make both

fossil cedar
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3060 or 3060 ti

wicked frigate
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What about an amd

fossil cedar
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Only reason to go amd would be if you already had a b450 or b550 board because you would have to overpay for worse performing r5 3600

fossil cedar
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At that price

wicked frigate
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I see

robust lake
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My highest is 108 wpm

wicked frigate
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Ok thx

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
robust lake
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Oh they were talking above about it lol

wicked frigate
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That’s all he wants to do

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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Ok thx

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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Ok

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Thx

fossil cedar
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I just put 3060 tho cuz more likely at 400

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Np

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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What’s good airflow micro ATX

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Case

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And a mobo

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@fossil cedar

rich helm
stoic island
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my highest is like 113wpm 60s

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120wpm 30s

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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He wants a micro ATX

fossil cedar
wicked frigate
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ase c

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Case

rich helm
muted patio
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Who does

stoic island
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you can yeet the wpm it up

fossil cedar
# wicked frigate Case

Ehhhh matx cases that are good that i know of are at least like 2x the price of the p360a afaik

wicked frigate
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Guys want a good micro ATX with WiFi mobo

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Cheap

fossil cedar
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You pay a premium for wifi mobo too

wicked frigate
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Wdym

stoic island
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b550m pro vdh wifi

fossil cedar
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You pay more for a board with wifi

fossil cedar
stoic island
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b560m pro vdh wifi

fossil cedar
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B560m?

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Yeah

wicked frigate
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Ok

fossil cedar
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I think lian li 205m is cheap ish but i don't think it comes with fans so you'd want to pop in a 5 pack or arctic p12s in the list which will bring the build to about 1.1k with the wifi mobo

wicked frigate
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Can I do 3600 ram speed

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On intel

fossil cedar
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Yeah

wicked frigate
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It fans cause it says 3200

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What does that mean

fossil cedar
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It can do 3600

wicked frigate
fossil cedar
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It just only officially supports 3200

fossil cedar
cold sorrel
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I have no idea of my typing speed these days. Been a long time since I measured it

stoic island
rich helm
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I wish I could type fast so I can type full paragraphs in game chat between rounds

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🙂

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Or debate with friends more efficiently

stoic island
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heh

ancient wraith
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how do i check what chipset drivers i have

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app center says i need too update

rich helm
ancient wraith
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i think i dont have them

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should i just install them from here

fossil cedar
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Then hit update

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Yeah

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It'll be fine

ancient wraith
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ok

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bruh

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is this a problem

uneven oar
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I dunno, looks like it did what you wanted it too

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but that one is

muted patio
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Yeah, that's part of the Gigabyte software stuff

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Which, is honestly kinda bad like Armoury Crate and all the others.

ancient wraith
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It keeps saying pro Mgmt has stopped working

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the software sucks

muted patio
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Ya

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better to update drivers manually although more of a pain

ancient wraith
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i was trying too update drivers and the app thats in it

muted patio
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Ya, just head to mobo makers website for your motherboard and get them there

uneven oar
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just d/l the drivers from the site or amd/intel

muted patio
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The software updaters like that don't always grab the latest drivers either :/

uneven oar
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case in point: amd chipset drivers

fossil cedar
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I use driver booster tbh never had any problems with that, ik would be better to do manually but im lazy lol

ancient wraith
muted patio
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Even DB doesn't always grab the newest ones

fossil cedar
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But chipset drivers should be straight from intel/amd

fossil cedar
uneven oar
fossil cedar
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Why tho

muted patio
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Nah, i have Asus and use the AMD drivers direct from AMD

uneven oar
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honestly, I don't know

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Ya I use amd drivers directly

fossil cedar
ancient wraith
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it still saying this

muted patio
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Ya, uninstall that Easytune stuff

uneven oar
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Reeeeee-boot!

ancient wraith
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should i restart my pc

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even if its in the middle of updating stuff

uneven oar
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can the install finish?

lyric thistle
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society if no bloatware

ancient wraith
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i dont think so

lyric thistle
ancient wraith
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i restarted

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do i need smart backup or easytune

fossil cedar
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No

robust lake
ancient wraith
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its still doing it

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im just not gonna update the apps

muted patio
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Even after you uninstalled the Easytune stuff?

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Or just straight reboot

ancient wraith
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my drivers installed

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like restart

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wym by reboot

fossil cedar
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Reboot=restart

ancient wraith
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oh i did like 3 times

muted patio
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Uninstall whatever app this is lol. Get the drivers manually

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drifting garnet
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Yeah what is that

ancient wraith
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thats the aorus software

muted patio
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I think it's Gigabyte App Center

drifting garnet
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Ah

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Ok

muted patio
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Yeah uninstall that

ancient wraith
muted patio
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if you need something for the RGB, just get RGB Fusion

little osprey
ancient wraith
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i need it too control fans

muted patio
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low/med/high

drifting garnet
muted patio
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It is

little osprey
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ohhh hm didnt even see that

muted patio
lavish hazel
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Looking for a low profile cpu cooler any suggestions

muted patio
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For what cpu

stoic island
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Oh damn 5950x shuffle

lavish hazel
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I5 6600k

stoic island
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What case?

lavish hazel
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Open case

muted patio
stoic island
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Prob smth like a nh-l12s for low profile

stoic island
hallow glen
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why

lavish hazel
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Do yk y the fan is under the fins

stoic island
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For NH l12s? You can do either above or below

lavish hazel
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Do yk if its better to have it below?

stoic island
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It's basically the same, below is just less tall

lavish hazel
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Any other suggestions?

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Actually nvm thx for the help

stoic island
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@lavish hazel just scroll through here
https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail

Noctua

Having received more than 6000 awards and recommendations from leading hardware websites and magazines, Noctua's heatsinks are serving hundreds of thousands of satisfied customers around the globe.

full atlas
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I did a psu photoshoot😫

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stoic island
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Boom?

full atlas
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They are lucky I didn’t destroy it in my video...

lyric thistle
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80 plus brown

full atlas
worn wave
near garden
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So I have a msi b550 gaming plus would some of the Sata ports be disabled if I hook up a nvme ?

muted patio
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It shouldn't, no

hallow glen
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oo shuffle time

chilly fog
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Five years ago, I built a windows 7 machine with parts from Newegg. Have had zero problems with it. but now with windows 7 going away I must upgrade to windows 10 also planning on installing an SSD. So, I am thinking if I install a new SSD I can install any windows 10 build software and then set that up just like a new build. I'm obviously an infant when it comes to tech, so I would appreciate any input from those more savy. thanks FMStewart

fossil cedar
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Yep you can do that

little osprey
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Msi rtx 3080 gaming x trio msrp?

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I saw in the internet it was like 750 but I dont believe it

muted patio
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It was before Tariff

little osprey
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What's tariff

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Sry I'm german

muted patio
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Taxes

onyx lava
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yo guys

potent portal
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Tariffs are a tax on imported goods

muted patio
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Goverment taxes, import taxes

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Similar to EU VAT

onyx lava
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my pc only has 2 usb headers but i need another one

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internal usb headers

little osprey
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Ok

potent portal
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In the US we have a very high tariff against China right now that raises prices a lot on many different goods

onyx lava
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do header extensions work

little osprey
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
little osprey
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Like shipping from here to the us cost like 30-100

potent portal
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The USB spec officially supports 127 devices on a single 2.0 port, provided each device is externally powered or the hub is powered.
Just get a hub.

fossil cedar
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Or anywhere else inside eu

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Will be cheaper

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Especially since the us prices don't even include sales tax

potent portal
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Or at least live close enough to drive there...

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
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I know, just saying that's part of the reason taxes aren't included. Each state and territory has its own sales tax laws and sites can't always reliably tell where you are based on IP, so it's hard to give an accurate price up front.

fossil cedar
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Ohh yeah it's a bit weird each state has diff tax

potent portal
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
little osprey
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What's the best bang for the buck top 360mm aio pc case?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
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Or if not available in Germany for around 100€ a phanteks p400a i think allows 360 or corsair 4000d but they're overpriced in Germany when i was looking for mine

little osprey
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Ok

potent portal
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Meshify C can do a front 360 rad if your GPU isn't too long also

little osprey
potent portal
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Not bad

little osprey
fossil cedar
potent portal
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3080 is probably too long, let me double check. My 2070 was too long to fit a rad on front.

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
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Yeah top mount 360 is nice

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I need to upgrade my case next...

fossil cedar
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What case you have atm?

little osprey
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I'm dont wanna buy the gpu now

potent portal
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The meshify c I mentioned

fossil cedar
potent portal
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I've had it for a while, been great up until I put tons of high end stuff in it lol

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
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Yeah current market you should buy the GPU first and worry about everything else later

little osprey
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Thanks for the help

potent portal
raw crane
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This hurts to watch

little osprey
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I think I'll need to get a 1440p 144hz-165hz monitor too bc the monitor I have now is the asus vs248hr

little osprey
little osprey
muted patio
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Didn't line up notch, broke ram slot. ouch

little osprey
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He was too busy holding the fking Camera 😂😂

fossil cedar
potent portal
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No kidding. I'm not blowing the heat from the GPU through the CPU rad so both are intake. The heat coming through the vents and exhaust is ridiculous, hot enough that I can't sit too close or I'll get blisters.

little osprey
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My birthday is in 10 days I wish for gpus in stock for good prices😂😂😂

round stream
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jsut ask for money, and buy it when price go down

little osprey
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I know I'm getting 100€ from my grandma she gives me that much every year

fossil cedar
low gate
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guys what's the point of the i5 10500? the 10400f is such a better value and the 10600k has amazing performance

round stream
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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they already made it

fossil cedar
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10500 is a 100mhz bin over 10400

fossil cedar
full atlas
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Hi, I have a friend who has a 970 in his spare pc. Should I offer 60$ for it?

little osprey
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hi all im a novice and i am looking for a desktop to support 3 monitors any advice on buying or building one

fossil cedar
potent portal
fossil cedar
potent portal
little osprey
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mostly work but i am looking into online gaming

fossil cedar
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What resolution and what type of work?

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Like just an email machine or cad or something like that ?

little osprey
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checking distribution orders

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0920 x 1080 right now

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ops 1920

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no live hat, phone calls, video meetings

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chat

fossil cedar
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Alright so nothing intensive

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Are you looking for a prebuilt i assume?

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And what's your budget @little osprey ?

full atlas
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So there is this guy on OfferUp, should I try and trade my 2700x for the 570 + one of the ram kits?

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potent portal
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You'll need to offer cash on top of the CPU, even back in time if both were new the GPU alone costs more

fossil cedar
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Than the white kit anyway

full atlas
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I said trade now buy

fossil cedar
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No

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Still

potent portal
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Right, the 2700X isn't worth much at all right now. You'll need to offer cash + CPU for the GPU.

full atlas
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Used 570 would have been like 60-100$ too lollll

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The good old days😞

fossil cedar
full atlas
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I’m not desperate I just think it would be a good trade

fossil cedar
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No

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If they want 400 cash they won't except just a 2700x

potent portal
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The RAM is a bad deal and the GPU is outperformed by similar current priced cards

fossil cedar
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And tbh noone wants a 2700x atm they're fairly cheap

potent portal
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If I were to sell my 3200c16 kit it would be for like $40

fossil cedar
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50 maybe but yeah

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Since the prices went up a bit

full atlas
fossil cedar
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Cheapest 3200cl16 is oloy 75$ atm so

little osprey
fossil cedar
potent portal
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If you offer just the CPU the guy is either going to troll you and laugh or just not respond

fossil cedar
full atlas
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“Laugh”

fossil cedar
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Yeah

full atlas
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He’s the one who has a 400$ 570 listed

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Which is a lot more than people in my local area are willing to pay

fossil cedar
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Yeah but he knows someone is probably desperate enough to buy it for 400 or at least 350

little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
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Ok yeah actually in my country I can't switch to amazon merchant in pcpartpicker

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There is only new egg

fossil cedar
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?

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Pcpartpicker picks the cheapest retailer what do you mean?

little osprey
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I can't get the amzon prices

fossil cedar
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Why lol?

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Is there no Amazon where you're from?

potent portal
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pcpp isn't perfect, it can't index everything

fossil cedar
little osprey
potent portal
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Yes but it does have its flaws still. It can be slow updating prices, doesn't include things like newegg promos, and doesn't find everything at every retailer that has it.

fossil cedar
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Fair

potent portal
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I do agree it's much better than doing everything yourself, but you still might need to do some work.

fossil cedar
potent portal
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For example, it said the RM850x was out of stock but I clicked the corsair site and it was there

full atlas
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Which rm850x tho😫

fossil cedar
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That would be a hard/fun project

potent portal
full atlas
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2018 model, 2021 model...

potent portal
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They only sell the new model on their website

little osprey
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Uhh Filtering products in pcpp was sooo easy

full atlas
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Oh ok

potent portal
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Yeah the pcpp filters are fantastic, especially considering Amazon filters are total trash and painful to work with

wet prairie
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hey guys, i just got a 240hz monitor and its only giving me 120 as an option, its hooked up to an HDMI

muted patio
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HDMI which card

potent portal
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You need displayport for that refresh rate usually

muted patio
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Has to be HDMI 2.1 from card to monitor for that to work

molten wyvern
muted patio
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Yep

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DP does all the things, HDMI is wack

molten wyvern
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does dp even give sound tho?

potent portal
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Yes

molten wyvern
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i would go dp all day then

little osprey
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What about a thunderbolt

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Does it give audio

molten wyvern
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idk

muted patio
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Yes

potent portal
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Displayport is needed for freesync/gsync on most monitors too

molten wyvern
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dp is just the better option

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idk why consoles use hdmi

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nvm

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ik

potent portal
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Yeah hdmi is only there for backwards compatibility now

molten wyvern
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and ive never seen a tv with dp

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and most people hook their console up to a tv

little osprey
molten wyvern
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with the new consoles you can

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but older gen is a no go

little osprey
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Aren't they locked to 60 like all ofem

potent portal
molten wyvern
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nah they go up to 120

molten wyvern
little osprey
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Niceeee

potent portal
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4k120Hz

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With HDR

little osprey
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RGB?

molten wyvern
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i can never

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1.5k usd

potent portal
molten wyvern
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i still have a 720p 60hz tv

little osprey
potent portal
fossil cedar
muted patio
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AMD boards have TB

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Kinda rare sure but they have it

potent portal
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It's on a few boards but tends to be VERY expensive

little osprey
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What is TB

muted patio
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Thunderbolt

molten wyvern
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thunderbolt

little osprey
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Ahh shit..

fossil cedar
muted patio
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More prevalent on B550.

fossil cedar
#

Ohh well they're v expensive boards anyway lol

molten wyvern
#

for now ill stick with hdmi and dp

fossil cedar
#

Dp is Chef_Kiss

muted patio
fossil cedar
potent portal
#

Is that a video capable TB port?

fossil cedar
muted patio
#

IDk about video capable, it's a header so need the add in card for it

fossil cedar
#

Ahh

muted patio
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Or port on the case

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MOst boards are like that though TBH

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have a header, need the ports themselves

fossil cedar
#

Well video capable tb is a bit more rare

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I meant the actual usb c port like

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Especially because it has to do some trickery with taking the signal from the gpu or whatever

muted patio
#

Yeah I'm not sure about that part

little osprey
#

It should with an APU right?

fossil cedar
#

The thing is there's very little thunderbolt capable display things on amd boards especially

potent portal
#

Thunderbolt 3 has been around since March 2019

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Thunderbolt 2 was october 2013 lol

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(TB 2 included a displayport combined with PCI lanes)

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I remember looking that up for someone before and Asrock had one, but didn't sell it separately. There might be another one around now, though. I'll look.

gusty abyss
#

I'm trying to google for one and yeah all I find are sketchy looking amazon ones lol

fossil cedar
#

Think edizy or something like that on Amazon might have one too, I've never used an adaptor of theirs but i have their fan hub

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Yeah it's a very niche product too

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Cable mod seem to have a 25$ extension if you want that lol

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Oof really?

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I thought they were reliable

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Well i mean they were probs asia horse or so no name brand

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Where they cable mod ones though?

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Yeah fair

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They have a bad reputation

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Fair

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25$ is a lot for a usb cable too lol

potent portal
#

Oh wait I remember which one was asrock exclusive, it was the USB C header one

zealous cipher
muted patio
#

Neither of those for 2K. Can do so much better on the CPU and ram and most other things

fossil cedar
zealous cipher
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fixed

fossil cedar
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And lets be honest you're not getting a 6700xt for 480$ unless it's from amd.com directly and performs closer to 3060 /ti

stoic island
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my god

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plz no

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it's even worse

fossil cedar
zealous cipher
fossil cedar
stoic island
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@zealous cipher can you start by explaining why you chose those parts?

zealous cipher
#

ok fine

stoic island
#

it's just

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let's start with storage

zealous cipher
stoic island
#

ahem

marble knot
#

So I've noticed that my computer isn't running games quite like it used to and I'm looking to get some upgrades for it but I'm really not sure what to upgrade. I've been having really bad loading issues as well as in-game lag. Any help is much appreciated. I've been playing a lot of Tarkov lately and Having major issues while in-game as well as being completely unable to play warzone anymore if that gives any ideas of what I'm looking to be able to do. If you think I should add something to the list below just let me know and I'll add it! Thanks!!

GPU- MSI GTX 1080

Motherboard- MSI Z370-A Pro

CPU- Intel i5-8600k @ 3.60 GHz

Corsair 16GB RAM DDR4 2133 MHz

Corsair h100i Cooler

EVGA 650w Power Supply

stoic island
#

Toshiba x300 4tb exists

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next, the SSDs

zealous cipher
stoic island
#

4 different SSDs, why?

robust lake
#

Msi aio isnt good

zealous cipher
stoic island
stoic island
fossil cedar
muted patio
#

Toshiba makes some of the best drives out there

stoic island
#

Why not grab like double pilot e 2tb's if you want

#

It's just

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separate drives are wack

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(and also the drives themselves kinda sad)

robust lake
#

O11 d isnt good for air cooling

stoic island
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

But yeah ssd and faster ram first

marble knot
stoic island
#

uh, 2 SSDs in raid 0 I assume..?

#

What exact drives?

marble knot
#

yes I believe. I know off the top of my head that they're Samgung 250gb

stoic island
#

dual channel = 2 sticks, double the bandwidth since you saturate both memory channels available to the CPU

#

Weird setup

marble knot
#

ah, I do have 2 8gb sticks of ram

fossil cedar
#

Makes it run faster

stoic island
#

You'll just want new sticks then imo

#

2133mhz is not nice

fossil cedar
#

Are you sure they're rated for 2133 and xmp isn't just not on?

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Also

stoic island
marble knot
stoic island
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XMP is a bios setting btw

marble knot
#

Looks like they are in the 2nd and 4th slot for the ram.

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

@zealous cipher Next, O11 is just not good for airflow, until you stuff 9 fans in there, which means closer to 250$ down the drain just for case and fans

#

why not?

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Bleach showed me some 4133mhz cl12 OCs earlier today on a 8800k

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
stoic island
fossil cedar
#

Fair enough

potent portal
#

Wow, 4133c12, v nice

stoic island
#

12-12-12-28

marble knot
stoic island
#

yea, real nice

fossil cedar
marble knot
fossil cedar
#

Nice

potent portal
fossil cedar
#

So it's actually 3000mhz thats what i thought

stoic island
#

prob b die fun

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fossil cedar
stoic island
#

actually, now that I think about it

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I don't think it's b die that scales with lower temps

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might be djr or smth

marble knot
#

So I don't need to do anything in the bios?

potent portal
#

rev e I think did well in cold

stoic island
#

dunno

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all I know is that reve doesn't care about high temps

potent portal
zealous cipher
#

all i need is something decent for 1440p gaming

desert gulch
#

Get cheaper ram

#

That's stuffs overpriced

#

Ballisitx should be decent 3600 c16 in terms of price

stoic island
#

@zealous cipher SSD wise, just go P31 1tb and a Pilot E 2tb if you want lots of storage, or single P31 1tb will be just fine for boot

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

@zealous cipher PSU wise, swap for Revo d.f. 850w, it's cheaper, it's higher wattage, it's better quality, it's multi-rail.

fossil cedar
desert gulch
stoic island
#

115$ afaik

desert gulch
#

I thought it was like 130 las I check

#

Hmm

fossil cedar
#

Yeah it's 115

stoic island
#

theres a promo on wegg

potent portal
desert gulch
#

Dang that's good

stoic island
#

@zealous cipher Case wise, choose from 4000d airflow, 5000d airflow, p400a, p500a, td500 mesh, lancool ii mesh, and p360a, along with some other good airflow cases

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
stoic island
#

@fossil cedar image of 7000mhz OC for WR

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fossil cedar
#

Ohhh i get now

lyric thistle
#

water blocked ram 😳 ?

stoic island
#

@fossil cedar tbh I'd prob go for p31 1tb+x300 4tb, since they seem to be fine with cutting down SSD storage a bit

potent portal
fossil cedar
lyric thistle
#

oh ok

desert gulch
zealous cipher
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
#

No 3700x

stoic island
#

good nuff

#

just

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@zealous cipher 3700x makes no sense

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10700 is just faster

#

you could make an argument for 5600x

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but 3700x is just outmatched

fossil cedar
#

also youre not getting a 3070 for 500 unless you get a fe

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thats why i put budget for 3070 at 700

stoic island
#

aib bois start at 700$
FE still chillin at 500$ tho

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but fe do also be local only

fossil cedar
#

also you have both pilot e 2tb and p31 in there

fossil cedar
stoic island
#

ye

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p31 1tb+pilot e 2tb is somewhat acceptable

#

just a huge drain on the budget

#

at least the drives are good

fossil cedar
#

would you not just do pilot e 2tb +p31 and add the hdd later?

#

like is 3tb storage not enough to start with at least

#

but yeah 5800x or 10700

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or 10900/10850k

marble knot
#

so for me, buying new ram and a new processor would be best for me? Which ones would I want?

potent portal
#

15TB isn't enough for me between all my media and backups lol

fossil cedar
marble knot
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
#

Could easily OC that to 3200 with tighter timings too prob

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
zealous cipher
#

.

fossil cedar
#

. ?

marble knot
potent portal
stoic island
#

650w unit should do for 9900k+1080 afaik

fossil cedar
#

650w

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should be fine yeah

fossil cedar
marble knot
fossil cedar
#

ehhh not really idk what your issue is but that will deff be a nice upgrade

marble knot
#

so If I wanted to make it so while playing Games like Tarkov and Warzone, I didn't lag around (not my internet I have gig speed) what else would you reccomend?

muted patio
#

I know Warzone is more CPU heavy than other games

#

IDK about Tarkov tho

fossil cedar
#

yeah warzone would def benefit

#

so you have an ssd btw?

#

i cant remeber if tarkov is open world or not might help a bit if it is

marble knot
#

Tarkov is not technically open world. Like, think wazone. you load the map before going into the game. once you're in the match(raid) you don't need to load anything else

muted patio
#

Tarkov also appears to be CPU dependent

marble knot
#

sweet! those were really the only games I had major issues with!

#

just ordered the i9!

fossil cedar
#

Nice

marble knot
#

Thanks for the help!

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here's to hoping I don't screw up the install!

stoic island
#

might also want a new cooler, depending on what you already have

fossil cedar
#

H100i

#

I believe so should be fine

#

Or 500i or whatever the name of the corsair aio is

wicked frigate
#

Guys is push pull config good on an aio

rich helm
oak kayak
#

Hello, I’m trying to install this radiator as exhaust. I’m unsure if the fans are set up properly. Do I have it set up right?

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muted patio
#

Top mounted?

potent portal
#

It depends on how you mount it

oak kayak
#

Yep top mounted

muted patio
#

Normally it would go radiator on the top with the fans mounted underneath the other way

potent portal
#

If you put the fans on the case and the radiator underneath it'll be exhaust

#

If you want the fans visable in the case flip them

muted patio
#

SO the fans need to face the other way yeah

oak kayak
#

Ok thanks!

oak kayak
#

So this is how it is supposed to be put in ?

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muted patio
#

ya, like that!

wide sparrow
#

👍

lyric thistle
#

why he only got one fan on he radiater 😳

oak kayak
#

Alrighty , thank you very much .

#

Lol I’m working on it, I didn’t want to put all the fans on the wrong way.

fossil cedar
wide sparrow
muted patio
lyric thistle
#

ic :)

median inlet
fossil cedar
median inlet
#

Yes

fossil cedar
#

Okay

median inlet
#

I also bought asiahorse cable extensions

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
glacial atlas
#

hi

median inlet
#

Not sure if l can return them l had 30 days to return but those days might have passed. Can l get a different case and motherboard?

fossil cedar
#

I mean yes but what do you want

median inlet
#

I just don’t like the design

fossil cedar
#

Of the case?

#

Or motherboard

#

Motherboard you're gonna have to pay a bit more, from what's in stock anyway

fossil cedar
median inlet
#

Yeah l was think a Corsair 4000 d

#

How come you picked that power supply? Just trying to take in information because l just got into pc gaming

fossil cedar
#

That power supply is one of the best out there and currently cheaper than the 750w

median inlet
#

Ok

#

And why don’t you like the team t force ram?

muted patio
#

It has difficulty hitting the advertised speeds

fossil cedar
#

Also ballistix ram has non rgb ram that's 3600mhz and 10$ less or 10$ more with rgb

#

And ballistix is great for overclocking

median inlet
#

What do you think l should do since l already bought the t force ram?

muted patio
#

Try it and see if it works, if it doesn't, return it? This is why it's bad to buy parts one by one instead of all at once, return windows close :/

median inlet
#

Yes l have discovered that. I haven’t tested it yet because l don’t have all the parts yet

fossil cedar
#

Also idk if you've heard but gpus are hard to find atm btw so you'll have to use the integrated graphics for a while btw

median inlet
#

Yeah l heard but of course the one year that l want to build a pc it isn’t the best year

fossil cedar
#

It is what it is ¯_(ツ)_/¯

median inlet
#

Since l already got two things already for everything else I am just going to add up money until l add up as much as l need rather than buying stuff now

#

And will asiahorce extensions go into the 3060 ti?

fossil cedar
#

Yes they should but I've heard of people using asia horse and frying their whole system pretty much by using asia horse extensions, i wouldn't risk it

median inlet
#

Hmm never heard that

fossil cedar
median inlet
#

I already bought them l don’t want to waste my money though

fossil cedar
raw crane
#

I’m genuinely curious on why someone would need this kind of build: https://youtu.be/ZkRa4YQVXr8

YouTube
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$12 000 Threadripper 3990X & TITAN RTX Workstation WaterCooled build

#lianli#amd#msi#corsair#yangcom
CPU: AMD RYZEN THREADRIPPER 3990X
M/B: MSI CREATOR TRX40
RAM: G.SKILL DDR4 128G PC4-25600 CL15 TRIDENT Z RGB (16Gx8)
SSD: PATRIOT VIPER VP4100 M.2 1TB
HDD: Seagate 4TB Barracuda
VGA: NVIDIA TITAN RTX D6 24GB
CASE: Lianli PC-O11D XL WHITE
POWER: Seasonic FOCUS GOLD GX-1000 Full Modular
CABLE: Lianli STRIMER PLUS 24...

▶ Play video
#

Like ACTUALLy is there a job that needs that much??

full atlas
raw crane
#

Not even streamers need that much

fossil cedar
#

Mathematical workloads yes

raw crane
#

8k???? Damn

desert gulch
#

If you want the best of the best for workstation it's out there

#

Altho that isn't the best best for workstation

raw crane
#

12k is like over kill over kill and I rarely say that because the pc market is always changing but why get something that much. I bet a 3k build will perform just as good lol

desert gulch
#

Not even close

fossil cedar
# raw crane 8k???? Damn

Also people who work professionally with like theoretical physics n stuff literally use epyc processors which would be way more than 12k$

desert gulch
#

That gpu alone is more than 3k prolly lol

raw crane
desert gulch
#

Go find a 3k workstation that would beat it

#

Garuntee you cant

raw crane
#

I was over exaggerating....

#

Obviously

desert gulch
#

Even 5k

raw crane
#

weird I was genuinely just curious on what kind of jobs would need it

desert gulch
#

Top of the line streamer

#

Could use it for streaming pc

raw crane
#

No not even a streamer

desert gulch
#

Since money doesn't matter to them

#

They would just want the best of the best

raw crane
#

That’s true but Like Tfues build, that’s so useless 😭

#

2 2080’s I believe

desert gulch
#

Lol for steamers ye but it's a huge flex on ppl

raw crane
#

Facts

desert gulch
#

Imagine how hard you could flex on random fortnite kids

raw crane
#

True, I mean I have a 10 series cpu and a 3070 gpu so I’m pleased with my build where at the fact I wouldn’t even want a tfue build

#

Would his pc raise the cost in electricity Bill a lot?

desert gulch
#

Depends on workload and psu

raw crane
#

Oh ye the PSU

desert gulch
#

Prolly a titanium psu or sumthin

raw crane
#

that thing has to be packing more than 1000 watts too

desert gulch
#

Prolly a 1600

raw crane
#

I bought an 800 WATT psu... wasn’t needed at all

desert gulch
#

Since he's gotta have the best of the best

raw crane
#

Ah yeah

desert gulch
#

And even if it did raise electric bill he wouldn't care at all lol

#

He's hella rich

raw crane
#

Also true

covert vapor
#

I'd build a pc like that for streaming if I had the money. 'S sorta like the man with the very expensive car he takes very good care of, largely by never using it and limiting his interaction to staring at its glory and having fantasies of using it while pretending to drive in the front seat

fossil cedar
raw crane
#

Yeah I got it for my 3070

#

I don’t think it was needed

fossil cedar
#

Ehh future proofing your psu not a bad idea means dont gotta buy new one when upgrading

raw crane
#

True dat

#

Thinking ahead cz_pepe_hehe

jagged ember
#

Psu is probably the only part you can futureproof

lyric thistle
#

future proof by putting psu in a time machine and sending it forward 32 million years

covert vapor
#

Technically you could future proof storage by going from a HDD or SATA SDD to a NVME 🤔

fossil cedar
#

Yeah but if you don't have a boot ssd in 2021 why the hell not

covert vapor
#

SATA SSD still SSD

#

I'm talking SSD to SSD on steroids

fossil cedar
#

Yeah even the worst ssds better than the best hdd

lyric thistle
#

I would choose neither for a boot drive bbnohappy

potent portal
#

You could probably find a 120gb nvme boot ssd for around $15

covert vapor
#

I boot from a SATA SSD

potent portal
#

Only a few seconds slower than nvme at least

covert vapor
#

Probably. Wouldn't want to put important stuff on the NVMEs I've got anyways, I use them as my game drive in RAID 0

fossil cedar
#

Tbh i moved from a hyper x savage ssd i think it was (6 year old sata) moved to sn550 don't notice a diff in boot time

potent portal
#

Well in gaming there's absolutely zero difference between sata and nvme load times

covert vapor
#

Oh yeah I know, I just didn't have room on my SATA drive but I had the space on the NVMEs

lyric thistle
#

I went from loading a huge bank of minecraft heads in like 10 seconds at 0 fps to loading them in real time at normal framerates

#

hard drive to ssd

potent portal
#

If it works it works

covert vapor
#

Mhm

fossil cedar
#

What....

muted patio
#

Yeah nah

fossil cedar
#

Some ppl weird

covert vapor
#

I noticed a difference when downloading from Steam and running Fallout 4. Even on a SATA drive I couldn't get the load times to drop so low

white patio
#

..........

potent portal
near garden
#

I need help

#

My gpu won’t go in

covert vapor
#

Did you depress the tab on the right side of the PCIe x16 slot?

near garden
#

Yes

muted patio
#

Check the metal tab on the bottom of the front part

#

if it's bent slightly it will fight you going in between the case and motherboard

near garden
#

It’s the left side that won’t go in

muted patio
#

yeah the part with the metal shield?

near garden
#

Yeah

muted patio
#

Check the tab on the bottom

near garden
#

It’s bent ;-;

muted patio
#

Ah

#

no worries

#

Bend it straight, carefully

near garden
muted patio
#

Pliers or a crescent wrench work well

near garden
#

This ?

muted patio
#

Yep

#

Can bend it back

near garden
#

It kinda scares me lmao

muted patio
#

Eh, it'll be fine

little osprey
#

So when I built my pc I bought 3 random fans from micro center and they’ve worked fine... until one starts making weird noises and slows down almost every time I boot up my system. Anyone know good fans I can get off Amazon that aren’t too expensive? (120-140)

muted patio
#

Arctic P12 PWM

near garden
#

I might of f up

muted patio
#

?

near garden
#

You can’t really see

#

But

muted patio
#

Nah, the front section is it's own little bit

#

Look at the card

#

there's a separate section on the front

near garden
#

Ik not that there’s a little peace that is in there

#

Idk what it is

muted patio
#

I don't really see anything. hmmmm....

#

If oyu think there's something in there maybe see if you can blow it out with a can of compressed air

little osprey
#

Are there versions of those fans with RGB?

near garden
#

I got it solved :)

#

@muted patio Thank you so much I appreciate you helping me <3

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muted patio
muted patio
little osprey
#

Awesome, appreciate it.

muted patio
#

If you need 4 PIN RGB, might have to get different ones

little osprey
#

I’m pretty sure my hub uses 3 pin, I’ll check though.

covert vapor
#

Pretty sure they push less air than the non-rgb version though

muted patio
#

Awww, do they?

#

Why do all the RGB fans have to be like that XD

little osprey
#

I’m not too worried about that, long as I have fans that work I’m happy lol. Mine were cheap ones that only have blue lighting so I figured I’d spend for ones that actually work and I can change the rgb.

covert vapor
#

Yup, the black version does 56.3 cfm while the RGB does 48.8

#

There is a RGB version and an A-RGB version so you can just change the version you are buying on the same page if it matters

little osprey
#

I’m on mobile so once I’m in my pc I’ll start searching around. Appreciate the advice yall.

raw crane
#

Why does it say my MAX FRAME RATE is 1000Fps

#

Is that normal

desert gulch
raw crane
#

It says it on Nvidia control panel

#

@desert gulch

desert gulch
#

idk then im not rly good with nvidia control panel

near garden
#

Can someone help me

#

I have installed a nvme and a hard drive how do I make it so steam and other apps just go into the hard drive not the nvme

desert gulch
#

like if talking about installing the steam app just drag it to HDD after installing it on ssd

near garden
desert gulch
#

itll ask where you wanna install the game

#

then select the hdd

near garden
#

It won’t work :/

#

Wait I got it

#

I think

near garden
little osprey
glossy dragon
#

guys im gonna keep it real

#

im intimidated by having to get a new pc and put it together but hate the specs of all the prebuilds

vagrant olive
#

dont be intimidated, its not that difficult once you've watched a few videos to be honest

glossy dragon
#

I watch ltt fairly often but it still feels like a big undertaking

#

alongside the gpu struggle right now

#

ive been trying to research Immersion cooling because it eliminates dust, which as you can see in the build pics is a problem but i cant find a solution

knotty sluice
#

Already bought the GPU and nvme, but any thoughts on my list so far

vagrant olive
#

all seems pretty decent but do you plan to upgrade the cpu cooler later?

covert vapor
#

Doesn't matter if they are going to upgrade or not, you should not get the Hyper 212 or any of the 212s, they are overpriced pieces of ancient tech

#

Unless you are doing it for a joke, I can get behind wasting your money for laughs

knotty sluice
#

Have any other suggestions then?

#

I’m not as familiar with after market air coolers

covert vapor
#

The usual recommends for budget after market coolers are the Vetroo v5 and the SE-224-XT, I personally lean Vetroo

knotty sluice
#

Any particular why? The hyper 212’s have good reviews so I’m curious on your stance exactly?

covert vapor
#

The reason they have such good reviews is because they have been around for ages and are seen as the standard budget aftermarket cooler despite them being eh. The Vetroo and the 224-XT both cool the cpu better (from what I've seen and heard, the Vetroo more so) and they are cheaper

prisma edge
#

Hey I need some help I have a

Z490 Msi gaming edge wifi
i5 10400
Rx 5700xt Red Devil
Hyper 212 cooler (for now)
16 gb of Trident Z ram
860 evo
750w gigabyte psu

Turns on but will not display anything on my monitor and I know ots not the monitor or cables as they work for my other build but I cant see to figure out why it wont boot it has had the ram and gpu reinstalled a few times I double checked that all the cables are in the right spots and seated correctly and still nothing

gusty abyss
#

does anything happen when you try to power on? any lights on the motherboard? fans spin at all?

prisma edge
frank stirrup
#

the one on ur mobo or graphics card

prisma edge
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its not the displayport I moved it from my other setup which is my gaming rig and it works fine but its in the gpu if thats what your asking

frank stirrup
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instead of graphics card

prisma edge
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okay ill try that

frank stirrup
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MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION

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BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING

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DONT SWITCH PC ON

prisma edge
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I know certain ones explode lol but its the 750gm

frank stirrup
prisma edge
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yah it is

frank stirrup
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Thats the grenade psu

prisma edge
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I mean it powers on fine

frank stirrup
prisma edge
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lmao

frank stirrup
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and takes your system with it

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dont power pc on till you get a better psu

prisma edge
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its not my build its for my cuz so ill have him replace it

frank stirrup
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for all you know the psu killed the graphics card

still roostBOT
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AyeitsT#2579 has been warned

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prisma edge
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greaaaat

frank stirrup
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You can ask vintage racer for what psu to get

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doesnt seem to be online atm

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mr1111 could also help u

prisma edge
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I mean did a few searches and it says I shouldnt have any issues since my parts really arent going to be pulling 800w and apparently thats what has caused them to explode

frank stirrup
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Using the p-gm is like playing with fire

prisma edge
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im sure but if we can get the system running I can order a new psu to be here tomorrow

frank stirrup
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Because you need to do that regardless

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that way we can rule out the psu