building-and-recc-chat

[supple gale]

that^

[earnest olive]

ah

yeah time to buy a 10400f + b560 board

xd

[supple gale]

[earnest olive]

this is probably a hardware issue

[covert vapor]

How old is the board?

[supple gale]

it was working fine less than an hour ago

[jagged ember]

It's a h110

[supple gale]

it's an ollld

[uneven oar]

Could the PSU cause it to act like that?

[jagged ember]

I've never heard of that before lol

So it's pretty old

[covert vapor]

Isn't the H110 chipset LGA1151?

[supple gale]

any current mobos that support 9th gen chips as well as the i5 6500 i have in here

[jagged ember]

I mean this is a good deal tho

Do that instead

[uneven oar]

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/H110M-E-M-2/

[earnest olive]

only with pin modding

[supple gale]

not worth it, buy new everything instead

i should note here that like

[covert vapor]

H110 boards sub-100 on Newegg, intriguing

[supple gale]

this was given to me for free

i could drop a solid 2 grand on a new pc

i just

refuse to fail

[uneven oar]

Or buy a replacement board?

[supple gale]

isn't that failing though

[earnest olive]

h110 was bottom of the barrel 6 years ago, it's probably not built to the same durability standards as older flagships

would not be surprised if it's just hardware failure

[lament fulcrum]

6?

it was released in 2017

[earnest olive]

2015

[supple gale]

and to think i just bought a nice kit of corsair vengeance yesterday that i now get to see collect dust until i buy a replacement

[jagged ember]

Won't take long for a replacement

[earnest olive]

skylake was 2015

[lament fulcrum]

its first bios release was in 2017 tho

[uneven oar]

Yeah that's old. Max life is like what, 4 years tops?

[earnest olive]

nah

a lot of older hardware is still going strong but it's usually not the bottom of the barrel stuff

[jagged ember]

No hardware? Breaks skateboard

[supple gale]

well i'd wanna replace everything except the gpu and the ram so, it'll be a few weeks before i get all the parts

[earnest olive]

x10 chipsets are generally the motherboard equivalent of a disease

[supple gale]

oh also the ssd

that can stay

[uneven oar]

Ahh fair point

[jagged ember]

Ahh I see

[earnest olive]

i have 2 working z87 boards

[lament fulcrum]

such as my old phenom x4 965 and r7 270

[covert vapor]

Ew, I just looked at the few 990FX boards Newegg still carries and they are all around the same prices as modern boards

[supple gale]

wonder how much i'd have to pay someone to cable manage this for me

[lament fulcrum]

12 year old hardware still working great

[jagged ember]

Infinity money

[supple gale]

most tedious thing on the planet

[jagged ember]

Lol or I should become a cable manager

Imagine the money I'd make

[uneven oar]

I mean my dreamcast still works so...

[jagged ember]

Or the headaches I'd get

[covert vapor]

My PS1 still works too, I'd just need to dig it up

[supple gale]

what im confused about here is how the keyboard is still getting power to it though. assuming the ports are deaded would mean it can't output power

eh?

[jagged ember]

Maybe controller oofed

But power is fine

[lament fulcrum]

maybe data is just off

[uneven oar]

You will physically hurt yourself if you keep thinking about it.

[covert vapor]

Our Gateway was still working after spending 17 years in a very humid and sometimes flooded basement

[lament fulcrum]

regardless 5v power will go through a usb connector

[supple gale]

which i assume is unfixable

[jagged ember]

Well..

[earnest olive]

fixable but not worth it

[supple gale]

im gonna hurt myself either way here man

[jagged ember]

You could solder a new controller

But like why

[supple gale]

revenge

[uneven oar]

Office space

[jagged ember]

No controller? Breaks motherboard

[earnest olive]

the h in h110 stands for hurl

as in puke

[uneven oar]

https://c.tenor.com/9maoyIgZGNQAAAAM/office-space.gif

[supple gale]

i thought it stood for hurt me

[jagged ember]

No, it stands for hurl

[covert vapor]

No, that is the H110M version

Jeez, I found the motherboard I used for my first build and it is being sold for 300 in a used condition by a third party

[supple gale]

do the usb ports work

[uneven oar]

@jagged ember get to work

[covert vapor]

What is that even supposed to be

[jagged ember]

PaIn

Give me a year

I'll probably be done by then

[supple gale]

im so upset i legit just installed blade and sorcery right before this happens i was so much looking forward to it

[uneven oar]

Is it spaghetti or the internet...

[south jewel]

Chesse

[uneven oar]

AOL mail servers

[covert vapor]

Ugh, AOL

[uneven oar]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T6N8N56/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_8D741KA3YX9AHAECCG82?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I mean..for 70 bucks

And overnight

It's not newegg but I mean these are trying times

[supple gale]

it's a 6th gen cpu

[earnest olive]

get a used z270 board on hws

[supple gale]

im just gonna buy a new cpu also

make it easier on myself

[earnest olive]

prob a better idea

z270 is cheap cause nobody wants it

[uneven oar]

Ahh dammit

[supple gale]

i mean hell my laptop is stronger than this thing

[earnest olive]

lol my new laptop is as strong as my first pc build from 2020

a bit stronger actually

[supple gale]

got mine for like 800 usd

8th gen i7 and a 1060

which, sounds horrible now, but when i bought it 3 years ago

[earnest olive]

got mine for 0 usd

[covert vapor]

That is pretty much what I've got

[earnest olive]

i7-10750h + rtx 3070 130w

[covert vapor]

Got it for 1k

[scenic turret]

Crypto lmao

[earnest olive]

nah

like i actually

got it for 0

[scenic turret]

Wait how?

[earnest olive]

expensed it lol

[scenic turret]

Lmao

Smart though

[earnest olive]

so i guess i got it for around -$400 if you count mining profit against the price

[supple gale]

just realized i need to grab a mobo with wifi on it because i refuse to spend more money on a card

wait

gonna spend more on a board that has it on there

than if i

ignore me.

[uneven oar]

Yes

[covert vapor]

You can get a wifi dongle cheap

[scenic turret]

don't get usb wifi

[supple gale]

i bought a crap usb wifi thing for this current pc

and i was barely getting 20mbs

i refuse to go that route ever again

[uneven oar]

Usb wifi works great

[covert vapor]

I've used usb wifi, depends on what you are using and how far you are from your router

[earnest olive]

just get pcie card with ax200 for like $30

[supple gale]

^

[scenic turret]

I just got a wifi 6 PCIe card since my B550-A doesn't have one

[supple gale]

gonna do that

msi b450?

[uneven oar]

Or move your router and buy a 5 dollar cable lol

No don't listen to me

[supple gale]

router is right next to the pc as it is

lol

[uneven oar]

Oh then get a longer cable

[supple gale]

nah it's a long story but i can't hard wire

[covert vapor]

I had to use a usb dongle when my wifi card in my latop was ded because a repairman manage to break it, the usb was faster than the replacement when I was far from the router, but I bought another wifi satellite so I am fine now without it

[earnest olive]

ive thrown a bunch of cheap $10 usb wifi antennas into customer builds

never had any problems

$10 usb wifi antenna getting 400 mbps

[uneven oar]

My switch suddenly had bad wifi and was slow, so I used a USB Ethernet dongle for it and it's now fast. Then I realized how stupid I was for putting it inside an entertainment center while docked...thus blocking wifi 🤦‍♂️

[supple gale]

best mobo for a 10700kand cheapest

[covert vapor]

Gotta block all the harmful wifi waves before they brainwash you into a Google loving frog. Gotta buy a containment device for my router

[uneven oar]

Starlink

[south jewel]

Bro my dad turns off the WiFi at night cus he thinks it’s bad for us

[jagged ember]

Lol

Wifi bad because...

[muted patio]

No microwave or tv either then

[jagged ember]

Yes microwave danger

[uneven oar]

Well, unplug that fridge!

[jagged ember]

Because microwaves will hurt your brain

Cook you from the inside

Totally will be able to travel that deep into your body

[covert vapor]

Microwaves'l turn your brain to mush if you stand too close without your tin foil protection device

[south jewel]

Lol

But he eats TV dinners all the time

[jagged ember]

And microwaves definitely aren't contained by the microwave itself

[south jewel]

xD

[south jewel]

It’s still bad if u stand near it apparently

[jagged ember]

Oh absolutely totally true

Pfft

They shield you completely from the microwaves

Unless is broke

Then it won't

[uneven oar]

Parents had more radiation from their old TV's

[jagged ember]

They were designed to attenuate all microwaves so that they don't travel outside the casing

Not that microwaves are even difficult to attenuate

[supple gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s3Kr8J

think this might work better with a motherboard

[stoic island]

corsair eh

[supple gale]

I CAN'T STOP OKAY

[covert vapor]

EK AIO better if you want RGB and a good AIO

You can always stop

[supple gale]

icue

[uneven oar]

At least get the the 115i

[covert vapor]

Icue eck

[uneven oar]

iCue good when Aura behaves

[potent turtle]

Anyone buy the rx 10000?

[covert vapor]

ICue software confusing to navigate and glitchy

[supple gale]

that's why i still use the 3.5 version

[uneven oar]

Version 4 is definitely interesting to work with...

But it's set and forget

[supple gale]

oh wait i sent that to ask what mobo i should go with

[covert vapor]

One time I randomly had to reinstall it because my Commander Pro suddenly stopped showing up as having 6 fans connected to it and would spit out random rpms for randomly appearing and vanishing fans

[supple gale]

i can't even use version 4 because it doesn't see my mouse

[uneven oar]

Ewww. I haven't ran into issues with any icue stuff, more of mine was the aura and armoury crate trying to grab control and installing plugins that I didn't need

[uneven oar]

New mouse!

[supple gale]

it still works fine

[covert vapor]

I've never had Armory Crate try and assume direct control before. Though the driver installer is broken as heck

[supple gale]

🙁

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ykGZmk aight can anyone check if im missing smth like another fan splitter or like something isnt compatible like with the case somehow

[rich helm]

Msi dragon center literally not liking any other softwares

[uneven oar]

Yes it is. I found old aura installation and stripped out all the extras except for the motherboard plugin...works fantastic. Pissed off the asus guru o ln the other channel...said it couldn't be done...hah! Showed him

[covert vapor]

My laptop is MSI and the only issue I've had with Dragon Center is that half the time opening it doesn't work. And that it doesn't really do anything useful for a laptop

[uneven oar]

That's what it was...armoury crate installed dominator plugins and the Fe plugin by default and fought control of the lights...

[minor harbor]

Hi Shober

[little osprey]

hi

[supple gale]

welp, back to the ol ball and chain

[earnest olive]

i have an msi laptop

i use dragon center for fan control (bios lacks this function) and battery control

it seems to be okay

it was terrible when i had a desktop with an msi mobo though

so terrible that i changed mobo

i would prefer not using dragon center but i got no choice

[covert vapor]

In three years, I've opened Dragon Center a total of 3 times, mostly because for two of those years the thing never opened. The first time was to try and use the crappy battery calibrator that doesn't work, the second time to try and adjust fan speed, the third time was to try the battery calibrator again and try and get it to free up memory (which did work). I've found that I didn't miss out on anything in those two years the thing never worked

[earnest olive]

i had an msi b450 tomahawk max cause i bought it before i knew anything about pcs and followed bandwagon

used it to control rgb

one day it tried to auto update and ended up killing itself so hard that i couldn't uninstall it by normal means

had to manually clean out the files and registry values

took 30 mins out of my studying and i couldn't study cause it turned all my white rgb to rainbow puke and was distracting lol

[stoic island]

mobo software always wack

just don't deal with live update

[earnest olive]

after that i got rid of it and bought a b550 aorus elite

[grim smelt]

can you guys suggest me a mobo for 5800x?

anyone?

[slate geyser]

For those that helped me yesterday, thank you very much. After testing each part the MOBO was faulty and I ordered a replacement

[tight sorrel]

I am going to strongly, but respectfully, disagree

[tight sorrel]

lliterally any mid tier X570. MSI Tomahawk, Asus Prime/Tuf, Gigabyte Aorus

[cosmic bay]

is there a suggestion channel here?

[grim smelt]

are they all basically the same? or do you know the best one out of those?

[tight sorrel]

They're all about the same. If you want to spend (a little) less, look at a B550 board.

[grim smelt]

I see

[frank stirrup]

get an asus tuf x570 if you want x570

[grim smelt]

how about msi mpg b550 gaming edge?

if I want b550

[tight sorrel]

yeah, its good

[frank stirrup]

its good

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

amd motherboard tier list by forks

[tight sorrel]

HOLY!!! MOLEY!

[earnest olive]

I don't think forks made that

[frank stirrup]

He sent it on the discord then

[hasty patio]

I have question for all you smart people out there. I just finished building my new PC and everything turns on yet nothing pops up on my screen im terms of BIOS even when i mash the delete key upon start. All my fans are running, CPU cooler fan is running and my RAM is lit up with the RGB so idk why BIOS wont start. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[tight sorrel]

does your motherboard have diagnostic leds?

[frank stirrup]

motherboard and cpu?

[nocturne zinc]

yeoooo need help

pls help me

[fossil cedar]

What's your problem

[nocturne zinc]

my gpu fans dont spin

wtf why

[fossil cedar]

They aren't supposed to spin unless it's under load

[nocturne zinc]

thanks bro

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

So yeah if you're just doing normal stuff dw but if you stress test or game and it doesn't spin then you gotta problem

[nocturne zinc]

ok

[tight sorrel]

[tired turtle]

[cold sorrel]

I've still not put my build together yet. I keep starting to pull things out and then talk myself out of it

[tight sorrel]

why though?

[hallow glen]

Why though?

[cold sorrel]

Because I can be indecisive as heck sometimes.

[modest kraken]

maybe u get this question alot but when is the gpu and cpu market gonna go back to normal

[desert gulch]

Maybe it's a crappy card with passive cooling so good it doesn't need the fans

xD

[celest sun]

I still have 3 LED fans and hub to mount, been 2 weeks and still debating on placement

[still roost]

Oberron#2798 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[celest sun]

OFC it would require moving all kinds of Things around in my case, but still. Indecisiveness is a curse

[rich helm]

Yeah I’m going to take my aio out of my case this weekend but still hesitant cause I don’t like to unscrew fans

[fossil cedar]

Dw bout it just took a fan i installed from my old case put it in my new one no problem, just still you'd swear it was self tapping even the 2nd time :/

[celest sun]

For mine i need to remove my HDD trays, AIO placement and Move GPU one slot up

Adding one fan next to AIO, one on top of PSU shroud and an additional intake fan on the front

[round stream]

lol the 850 w is les than the 750

[fossil cedar]

Yea it's on sale lol

[round stream]

ohh

ok

[fossil cedar]

It's usually 10-15 more than the 750w but yeah

Also goes on sale often

[fossil cedar]

That would greatly improve airflow yes also manage the cables pls

[celest sun]

Probably not going to happen, those 2 120mm noctuas are not mounted, just sitting on top of the 3090 heatsinks

[fossil cedar]

Just turn them around so you dont ses wires tho?

[celest sun]

Maybe, I'm not picky

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[tidal ridge]

Just got a tuf B450-plus gaming motherboard ryzen 3000 ready and a ryzen 3600 do i need to make sure the bios is updated or is ok good 2 go?

[fossil cedar]

Should be good to go

[celest sun]

Probably set, but wouldn't hurt to do that post install

[fossil cedar]

Meh

It's more important on b550 because of usb issues

[tidal ridge]

If it works all is good or is it best to make sure its the newest bios update

[celest sun]

Same can be asked if you want to update windows every time.

Stability fixes are there, doubtful if you ever run across

[cold sorrel]

I think another part of what keeps getting to me is I want to flash the BIOS on my mobo to make sure I don't have the USB issues that b550 has.

[fossil cedar]

For b450 their isn't really I've looked cus i have one

[fossil cedar]

That's not how it works it's a chipset specific problem btw

[tidal ridge]

Cool thx all 😄

[cold sorrel]

I have a b550 board and a 5600x.

[fossil cedar]

I haven't heard of people updating and then getting them

[wicked frigate]

How many fans can u fit in the p360a

[hexed hull]

Who can help me with my ebay purchase?

I bought a gpu it never arrived so I tried to refund it

And ebay is saying I already got my refund even though I didn't

[uneven oar]

umm...ebay can

[wicked frigate]

Never buy from eBay it’s a scam

[hexed hull]

It's so dumb

[wicked frigate]

U might of got scammed

Lol

[hexed hull]

I bought it April 30 and says delivered April 30

I dint get a refund and the seller won't answer

[wicked frigate]

Sue

????

How much u payed

[hexed hull]

330

[wicked frigate]

For

Which card

[hexed hull]

No 324

5700xt

[wicked frigate]

U most likely got scammed

[hexed hull]

I did

[wicked frigate]

Unless u call eBay and tell them

Or sue

[hexed hull]

But how do I call them

Last time I did they just give a bot and u can't actually talk to someone

[wicked frigate]

Call eBay with the phone number

Or costumer service

[marble seal]

contact ebay support. If you paid with paypal, they can likely help as well. always pay with paypal.

[hexed hull]

I tried it just gives me a bot and won't let me talk

I paid with my card

[wicked frigate]

Oh

Call costumer

[marble seal]

contact your bank/card issuer

[wicked frigate]

Service

[wicked frigate]

Or that

[marble seal]

they may be able to help as well

[hexed hull]

Ima try ebay first

[fossil cedar]

Did you buy a scam card, is so they'll usually ship a picture/card to one person and use the same tracking number for every order and not ship anything, I'd get on to customer service

[hexed hull]

Is there any other number for ebay support

But i bought it with a cashapp card

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 330 5700xt is a scam

They going for like 600 700

[celest sun]

Not true.

[marble seal]

if it looks too good to be true, it always is

[hexed hull]

What number should I call ebay to

[marble seal]

if its even questionable always err on the side of caution

[celest sun]

Vett your sellers, check to see if it's an individual or a mass reseller

[fossil cedar]

Should be somewhere on their website for support

[hexed hull]

Ok

[white blaze]

That's better price than I paid from NewEgg in October. Def a scam

[raw crane]

GIBE ME ALL YOUR GOOD RECOMMENDED HEADSETS UNDER $200 and TAHTS WHITE

[fossil cedar]

#peripherals-and-displays

Will be able to help better

[wicked frigate]

What are the fans on the ek aio

Called

The ones on the d-rgb

[robust lake]

I dont think you can buy them

They come only in aio

[fossil cedar]

I think that yeah ^

[wicked frigate]

Nvm

They are EK-Vardar EVO

[obsidian wigeon]

Not the same stuff, but looks wise they are

[hexed hull]

I guess I have to wait 2 days

[uneven oar]

be thankful it was only 330 and not 1K, could have gotten off pretty hard

[fossil cedar]

330 still a lot to loose tho

[uneven oar]

it is, but it could have been a lot worse

like..holding your pc hostage and needing 500 gift cards from walmart/target/bestbuy/etc

[lament fulcrum]

just call your bank and file a dispute

[hexed hull]

I did a live chat they said they refunded it and give 2 business days for the money to come in the card

[lament fulcrum]

oh okay good

[fossil cedar]

Nice

[hexed hull]

I hope it works tho I'm still kinda scared

I'm not gonna buy expensive stuff from ebay nomo

[lament fulcrum]

they'll give you your money back

or you can file a dispute if they dont

[fossil cedar]

It will just any money transfer takes a few days anyway

[hexed hull]

I was just desperate to get a gpu bcuz I've been missing one for months and all of my friends already built theirs

[lament fulcrum]

ive only had to file a dispute once or twice, but it always usually works

[hexed hull]

What does the dispute do

[lament fulcrum]

you dispute the charge, scam or such

[hexed hull]

Like report it?

[lament fulcrum]

the bank then contacts ebay or whoever, and gets your money back for you

i had to do it one time when i was dumb and cashapped and got scammed

[fossil cedar]

It will go through tho, if eBay say wait 2 days it will be there in 2 days

[lament fulcrum]

i called to file the dispute, then called cashapp and they said they would authorize it

but yeah

if ebay said so

it will be

[uneven oar]

it's a process of documenting, fraud, and stuff like that. Glad it's fixed...that was easy. What scares me is when your card information is being used without you knowing...and finding out when you are out trying to use your card and realize it's been tapped for fraud

[earnest olive]

show part list

your friends are idiots

[stoic island]

I agree

[earnest olive]

i had a worse cpu paired with a 3080 and zero bottleneck

i like everything about this part list except for the mobo

$180 for a b560 board is a lot

at that point you might as well go z590

for like $10 more

or get a cheaper b560

[obsidian wigeon]

Mugen 5

bruh

But yeah, his friends are idiots

11400 can handle a 3090 even

Any gaming gpus on earth atm tbh

[earnest olive]

yeah honestly a 11400 is even fine for a 3090 at 1080p

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

[earnest olive]

this is a 3070 at 1440p

[obsidian wigeon]

why wouldn't it be if a 3600 is also fine with it lel

[earnest olive]

your gpu will bottleneck your cpu

not that it matters

[obsidian wigeon]

are they blinded by ryzen?

one can only guess

[earnest olive]

HAHA INTEL BAD AMD GUD

me simp for multi billion dollar corporation that doesn't know or care that i exist

because it is smaller than the other multi billion dollar corporation that doesn't know or care that i exist

[obsidian wigeon]

Intel's never that bad, well.. if we ignore P4 and Pentium D

So is AMD if we ignore fx

lmao wtf

11400 is newest

[earnest olive]

your friends are indeed idiots

[obsidian wigeon]

and has pcie 4

yeah ryzen blinded

3600 is like losing to it a bit even

iirc

[earnest olive]

11400 is basically identical to 5600x in gaming

soo

a lot better than 3600

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah

[earnest olive]

even 10400 beats 3600 on b560 with same ram speed

[obsidian wigeon]

All I know is that it's better value than 3600

Not much else, but nice to know

yes

[earnest olive]

i'd look at other mobo options but otherwise yes it's good

[obsidian wigeon]

Well maybe change the cooler a bit

[fossil cedar]

If you want a rgb cooler just get a vetroo v5 and save the cash imo

[obsidian wigeon]

mugen 5 ain't exactly the best choice

[fossil cedar]

Fuma 2 way better

[uneven oar]

If i were picky I'd bump up the psu but yeah looks good

[obsidian wigeon]

lacks rgb tho, so the vetroo it is

[fossil cedar]

But no fuma rgb

Get vetroo v5 and save the money yeah

[earnest olive]

650W is more than enough especially if it's a 3070 FE

FE is locked to 220W

[fossil cedar]

Same but 650w is recommended for 3070 so it won't cause issues

[uneven oar]

Thought that was 750

[earnest olive]

this build would be fine on 500w lol

[fossil cedar]

Nah 650w

[uneven oar]

oh im thinking non FE's

:/

[fossil cedar]

Well that assumes the get a fe and not like a strix or something

[fossil cedar]

Even non fes will run fine on 650w

[obsidian wigeon]

I wouldn't trust a 500w on a 3070 much

So that psu is well, no need to be changed

[uneven oar]

I'd check if the psu had issues with the 3000 series. Had an evga supernove 850...more than enough to handle..crapped out when the 3090 was put in...turns out it couldn't handle the burst load

evga RMA'd it with a replacement

free 1000W PSU

well not free, but good trade up

[obsidian wigeon]

damm

guess that's what going outta stock feels like lmao

free higher end model

[earnest olive]

my 3070 TUF caps out at 272W with maxed out power limit

[fossil cedar]

Well sounds like they payed the difference from 850w to 1000w tbf

[earnest olive]

i5-11400 burst power is 154W

426W CPU+GPU at maximum synthetic load with maximum power limits

[uneven oar]

it was only the 3000 cards that had an issue with that specific psu. all over linus' forums about it

iw as like..wtf my whole PC shut down

[earnest olive]

with just a gen 3 nvme total system power won't be much more than 426W

and that is one of the best 650W psus on the market

[uneven oar]

Looks very new, came out late last year

groovy

[earnest olive]

it's still one of the best lol

[uneven oar]

funny tho after all that microcenter pulled that particular psu off the shelves

[earnest olive]

https://wolflsi.pixnet.net/blog/post/69374150 professional review (in chinese though)

[obsidian wigeon]

I wanna see a 5600G soon

But that's gotta wait, and probably isn't cheap either

[earnest olive]

okgotta head out bye

[uneven oar]

surprisingly the rma process was simple after registering..guy seemed to be tired of hearing the same story

[stoic island]

a-gf is on CWT GPU too iirc

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[stoic island]

(CWT GPU is the platform that Revo D.F., RMx, RM, and others are based off of)

[hasty patio]

MSI Z-490 and Intel i5-10700k

[fossil cedar]

Do you have a debug led on your motherboard?

Also i would suggest just reseating the ram first

[hasty patio]

no and ive tried that, the RAM RGB turns on

[fossil cedar]

Do you know which exact msi z490 it is? Z490 a? Tomahawk etc

[fossil cedar]

The rgb turning on doesn't entirely mean it's seated right btw

[hasty patio]

roger that

[thorny bronze]

Need some help.

[hallow glen]

w/ what

[fossil cedar]

^

[hallow glen]

@thorny bronze

[zealous blaze]

Got a cable question! Can anyone help?

So i ordered what i thought could work as extensions for my custom modular cable... but they are like half the size. Anyone know the actual proper name for the typical psu to cpu/psu to pcie connector?
I ordered a cable with “Micro-Fit” connectors.. im guessing these work like binder clips and “Mini-Fit” is what i need??

[stoic island]

what the heck

[fossil cedar]

wth

[stoic island]

how does that even work

[thorny bronze]

@hallow glen Need a intel build made up for me

[fossil cedar]

cpu power and pcie power for gpu

[hallow glen]

budget?

[fossil cedar]

budget?

[hallow glen]

haha i spell right

[stoic island]

bugdet

[hallow glen]

no

[stoic island]

bujet

[thorny bronze]

he wants everything under $800

[fossil cedar]

not doable

[thorny bronze]

each part cant be more than 800

[fossil cedar]

what

[hallow glen]

wha

[stoic island]

what

how much total

[hallow glen]

each part under 800?

[thorny bronze]

Yes lol

[fossil cedar]

whats the total budge

[stoic island]

like

[fossil cedar]

omg i cant spell

[stoic island]

does he want 800$ case, 800$ fan, 800$ PSU?

lol

[thorny bronze]

he doesnt care

[stoic island]

w a t

[thorny bronze]

so no cpu over 800

[fossil cedar]

800$ mobo

[hallow glen]

what is the total price of the build

no budget?

[stoic island]

I'm just going to leave then

[fossil cedar]

then youd be stupid not to go amd

[thorny bronze]

pretty much

[fossil cedar]

get a total budget, having each part be the same price is frankly dumb

[thorny bronze]

he is saying each part has a price cap of $800

[hallow glen]

.

well thats not good for a graphics card if this is like a dream setup

[fossil cedar]

A balanced build does not have the same budget for each part 😤

[hallow glen]

yeh

[thorny bronze]

3k budget

[hallow glen]

ok

[thorny bronze]

got it out of him

[hallow glen]

thats better

[fossil cedar]

Okay that we can work with

[hallow glen]

does it have to be intel?

[fossil cedar]

That would frankly be stupid

[thorny bronze]

no

[hallow glen]

ok good

[hallow glen]

yeah

[fossil cedar]

Is it for primarily gaming

[thorny bronze]

yes but streaming to

[hallow glen]

ok

wait x570 is compatible with 5000 series right?

[hallow glen]

how much ram does he need?

im just gonna go with 32gb

[fossil cedar]

16gb

[hallow glen]

ok

[thorny bronze]

id do 32

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nnNd7X @thorny bronze id just use 16gb but its a 3k build so wth

[raw sparrow]

Any one know if this is worth the money or not ? https://www.newegg.ca/skytech-chronos-mini/p/N82E16883289087?item=N82E16883289087

[hallow glen]

eh. maybe

actually

[fossil cedar]

ntb

[hallow glen]

https://www.newegg.com/tempest-blue/p/3D5-0019-00001?item=9SIADGYB5P8662&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googlemkp-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googlemkp-pc-_-pla-blair+technology-_-gaming+desktop-_-9SIADGYB5P8662&gclid=Cj0KCQjwp86EBhD7ARIsAFkgakgxOft9OL4vYbelwgO7uMAnI0VC1n1DK8Hhu8RRYsNGrjh4gQwKDcQaAnr5EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds theres this one

it is refurb'd tho

[fossil cedar]

id go with the skytech tbh

[raw sparrow]

Or I found this one https://www.newegg.ca/p/3D5-001U-00040?item=9SIAU20DD38042

But doesn’t look as good etc

[fossil cedar]

nowhere near as good as a 1650 and 3100

[raw sparrow]

Okay thanks 🙂

[raw spear]

Asus Vivobook 14in, is my go to for CoH Homecoming server and DCUO.

[hazy nest]

is a 2060 with a i7 10700 with 16gb of ram and everythin else for 1500 dollars woth?

[fossil cedar]

no

[fossil cedar]

for that price you can get a 3070

[hallow glen]

if luck

[fossil cedar]

still reliably an overpriced 3060 or 3060 ti build

[jaunty river]

no

[nocturne zinc]

yeah wtf

why thats preety

good

[fossil cedar]

no its very overpriced

[nocturne zinc]

really cause my buil was 1500 and i got stuck with a 1160 super ryzen 5 3800x and I am getting 2060 soon

[hazy nest]

o

[fossil cedar]

ryzen 3000 is stupidly overpriced atm

[fossil cedar]

you can do a diy build for 1k with a 3060 or 3060 ti and i5 11400

[nocturne zinc]

i mean 3060

[sage crown]

hey got question why is my GPU flashing a red light ?????

just started happening right now

[muted patio]

near the power plug?

[sage crown]

yes\

[muted patio]

Usually means an issue with the power

[sage crown]

oh

[muted patio]

Blue light is good, red light means issue

[sage crown]

its flashing a red light every second

[muted patio]

What card is it

[sage crown]

RTX 3060

[muted patio]

brand?

[sage crown]

asus rog strix

[muted patio]

Ok, so one of two things

Either the driver needs updating OR the card isn't getting enough power

[sage crown]

let me check updates

[muted patio]

Try reseating the power cables

Check them at the PSU and GPU

also reseat the card

[sage crown]

yup no updates

so fully shut down the computer and start it again then

[muted patio]

Shut down the computer

Make sure all the cable connections are tight

reseat the card in the slot

Then start it back up

[sage crown]

ok well i will be on the phone then if something happens

how do i restart the card

[muted patio]

Not restart

ReSeat

[sage crown]

oh

[muted patio]

Take card out of slot and put back or push on it to be sure it's fully seated/inserted in the slot

[sage crown]

ok

brb

[muted patio]

Some people report loose power cables

or loose cable extension

[sage crown]

i think it was just loose it seems cause it stopped after i disconnected it and reconnected it

[chilly cedar]

I am attempting a new build with AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and Asus ROG STRIX B550-F. Would the BIOS will need an update before I try to boot it up? Is anyone familiar w/this pairing?

[muted patio]

Probably but maybe not. Board has flashback so update it before you fire it up is a guaranteed bet. Either way, the BIOS will be out of date and should be updated if it boots or not

[chilly cedar]

I may have to fix a USB issue in order to use Flashback before a 1st boot 😩 . I was afraid of this. Thank you, nevertheless

[muted patio]

USB issue?

I doubt that

Unles by issue you mean you don't have a flash drive

Becaue the USB issues reported don't affect the BIOS flashback, just in Windows

[raw crane]

Uno problemo, I tried over locking my ram so it could get its max HZ and nooowww it won’t post

And my pc just keeps turning on and off

[muted patio]

Reset CMOS

Either unplug from the wall and take out the battery for 2-3 minutes and replace it

OR jump the CMOS pins for a minute with something conductive

[raw crane]

Okay I’m in bios now thank you

[stoic island]

nice

[raw crane]

How do I correctly overclock my ram 😢

[chilly cedar]

Great news! - Asus website states ""- Update AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.2 - Fix USB connectivity issue Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (RB550FGW.CAP) using BIOSRenamer " .

thank you again

[muted patio]

Doing just what you did, test and test and test

It's not just plugging in magic numbers and booting XD

[raw crane]

Okay I hope I don’t mess my stuff up

[muted patio]

You can't mess it up as long as you don't crank voltage

[raw crane]

Yea I hope I didn’t do that, I’m a little slow

No dram light so I think I’m good

[chilly cedar]

So you are pretty confident in the 'flashback before first boot' method? Should i install CPU & RAM & the rest before attempting to flashback prior to 1st boot? Thanks in advance for any input.

[muted patio]

You can install those first but it's not necessary

[stoic island]

Flashback right away with only power plugged in is the best bet imo

Lots and lots of confounding variables

[muted patio]

It does require some fiddling though like manually turning on power supply, etc

with everything out of the case

[chilly cedar]

Much appreciated gentlemen. I think that's the way to go

[stoic island]

You can flash the board without cpu gpu etc

[chilly cedar]

rad

[stoic island]

I don't think you even have to manually turn on the PSU

msi's guide thing
https://youtu.be/iTkXunUAriE

[muted patio]

Ah, yeah

derp

[chilly cedar]

it sez to so I'll probablu power up the PSU. Wow, if this works Huzah to ASUS

[stoic island]

oh yea keep in mind having to rename the bios file

Asus has auto renamer thing

msi you have to do it yourself

not sure on asrock and such

[chilly cedar]

indeed - very important piece

❤️

I bought this rig with dogecoin 🤓

[stoic island]

lol

[median inlet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dfM9Hz Can someone help me decide what other parts to get along with these parts. My budget is around $1300 - $1400

[rich helm]

does it have to be those parts

i would change a good portion of the parts already in there

[median inlet]

I already have the memory, storage, case, and fans

[rich helm]

oh

well ill change psu and mobo probably

1300 dollars total right @median inlet or 1300 additional

[median inlet]

Yes around $1300 could be a little more

[rich helm]

1300 including whats in there, or 1300 of new parts

[median inlet]

I really like the mobo though

Including of what l already bought so including the memory storage and case

[rich helm]

ok

[stoic island]

sad that you already have the case and fans

[rich helm]

yeah

[median inlet]

Why?

[rich helm]

that case has really bad airflow

[stoic island]

that's what, 180$ down the drain for not good airflow

[median inlet]

I really like the nzxt case

[rich helm]

imo better similar looking cases for much cheaper

[median inlet]

It is better than the h510

[rich helm]

ehh not really, maybe if you push the included fans

[stoic island]

It's better than the h510 because they force it

[median inlet]

Yes l will have a total of 6 or 7 fans

[stoic island]

the front panel isn’t completely ruining thermals, but part of that is the fact that there are three intake fans capable of forcing air through.

ick

it's just so much money wasted

in a fairly tight budget

for not great performance

whatever, as long as you're aware you're wasting money on aesthetics and cutting on performance.

[median inlet]

I just heard the best nzxt case for airflow is the h710

[stoic island]

just gotta realyze the "nzxt case" part sets the bar very low

[rich helm]

@median inlet https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6PKzrr

[stoic island]

@median inlet try this, 450$ should get you enough headroom to get something good
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4hKzrr

lel

[rich helm]

idk much about psus so i got the agf

[median inlet]

What do you mean by it forces the airflow? Just curious

[stoic island]

@median inlet The front panel itself isn't designed for airflow, but when you stuff 3 fans at high speeds, even with a small intake, it's bound to get some air in.

[rich helm]

becuase it can only draw air from those small holes, if you turn the fans up high enough you can actually get some air

[median inlet]

Ok

Thank for your guys help l appreciate it l just got into pc gaming

[stoic island]

@rich helm imo, no reason for z590 on 11400, and I went for more conservative estimate for GPU price

since 450$ will get you SOMETHING, even if you're impatient, it can get you an AIB 3060 model

but 400$ for FE 3060ti is optimal

[rich helm]

yeah, i went z590 because of no b560 stock besides that steel legend micro atx

[fossil cedar]

Mb grap the msi 650w psu for 90$ considering it's a tier and they don't hav psu yet?

[stoic island]

meh, CX is great either way

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[stoic island]

and saving 10$ is 10$ hehe

[fossil cedar]

Isn't there just like 4 or 5 cx models?

[stoic island]

no

there's CX, there's CXm, and CX-F

[fossil cedar]

Like grey sticker orange sticker etc?

[stoic island]

@fossil cedar the green label are like 6 years old

the older CX

[fossil cedar]

Ahhh

Nvm then

[stoic island]

They might even be a full decade old

lemme check

[median inlet]

As of right now l plan on only using the pc for gaming. And what is the difference between a 3060ti and a 2070 super if they are the same price?

[stoic island]

... where the heck are you finding a 2070 super for 400$?

But if we're comparing 3060ti to 2070 super directly, 3060ti is slightly better in terms of pure performance.

[median inlet]

Sorry l meant $500

For its original price

[stoic island]

2070 super at 500$ is basically impossible, any 2070 supers at that price is 95% a scam in today's market

[nocturne pollen]

Would a 750 watt power supply be good for the 3070 rogstrix?

[median inlet]

Yeah this is the only year that l wanted to start to build a pc and of course prices are insane

[stoic island]

depends on rest of system.

Well, drops can get you things

[median inlet]

How come you picked intel Mr1111?

[fossil cedar]

What cpu?

[stoic island]

It's simple, it performs better for cheaper xD

[fossil cedar]

Intel is bang for buck cpu

[nocturne pollen]

Ryzen 7 3700x

[muted patio]

Because intel spanks 3600 lol

[stoic island]

ATM, AMD doesn't offer anything good at the <300$ market, they can't really compete with Intel options atm

[fossil cedar]

750w will be fine then

[stoic island]

but ye good 750w unit will do

[fossil cedar]

Would recommend enermax revolution df 850w tho

It's really good and cheaper atm then 750w

[wide stump]

what cpu should i get

[stoic island]

depends on budget

[wide stump]

200

[fossil cedar]

I5 11400

And q b560 motherboard

[nocturne pollen]

Where at?

[wide stump]

talking to me

?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[stoic island]

https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0

[wide stump]

is ryzen good?

[stoic island]

revo d.f. 115$ after promo

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

[stoic island]

not at that price

Intel i5 11400 is the current best chip you can grab for 200$ new

[fossil cedar]

Not until you hit the 450$ price

[nocturne pollen]

Is that a steal?

[fossil cedar]

Yes great psu

[stoic island]

Revo d.f. is amazing tbh

[nocturne pollen]

For the 3070, would I plug two separate 8 pins into it? Or can I get a single cord with two 8 pins?

[stoic island]

please use separate cables

[fossil cedar]

Seperate

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[stoic island]

daisy chain is just asking for trouble

[obsidian wigeon]

Single is gonna melt

[stoic island]

Well, not with a 3070

but people melted it with 3080 or 3090 iirc

[fossil cedar]

No but not good

[nocturne pollen]

Alright then I will definitely do separate

ARESGAME 850W Power Supply Fully Modular 80+ Gold PSU (AGK850) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08SQQVZQL/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_0FJC6FW9X9VR28SMCYBJ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Is this a good one?

[stoic island]

uh

no?

[nocturne pollen]

Wonder if there’s anything good on Amazon for power supply’s

[stoic island]

revo should also be on amazon, just more expensive

[nocturne pollen]

Amazon prime shipping is hella fast

[stoic island]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07P7XLVJG

it's 15$ more expensive

[muted patio]

https://smile.amazon.com/Enermax-Revolution-Certified-Supply-ERF850EWT/dp/B07P7XLVJG

[stoic island]

vintage you might've removed smth from the link

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/amazon/CQNgXL

[nocturne pollen]

If I order now I can get it by Saturday on Amazon, or I can save money on Newegg and get it sometime next week

Decisions

[fossil cedar]

Newegg

Just wait like 2 extra days

[nocturne pollen]

It’s like 20 bucks cheaper on newegg, probably will cop there unless there’s a good steal on Amazon with another power supply

[fossil cedar]

Not really, we use pc part picker a lot and that always grabs the cheapest in general for each component and revolution df is usually the cheapest 750/850w

That's a good one

[nocturne pollen]

Yeah I’ll cop that

What about any good deals right now on ram?

[fossil cedar]

You got ram atm?

[nocturne pollen]

Yeah I got 16 gb rn

But I would like to upgrade eventually

[fossil cedar]

Doubt you need 32 tbh and bad to mix and match ram

[nocturne pollen]

It’s bad to have different ram sticks?

[blazing aurora]

yes

you should use the same brand of ram in your tower

[potent portal]

Brand is less important as long as the speed, timing, and voltage are the same. It'll probably be the same IC if those all match.

[jagged ember]

Mixing ram introduces the possibility of incompatibility

Timing and voltage is the most important yeah

And speed

[nocturne pollen]

Will it jack up the system if you just straight up remove what ram you have in your setup and change it with new sticks?

[jagged ember]

If it's on?

Definitely

Someone did that once

[muted patio]

It might reboot a couple times while it retrains memory

[nocturne pollen]

Definitely not on lol

[muted patio]

most times not

[obsidian wigeon]

Then it's fine

[jagged ember]

Most times it won't lol

[muted patio]

But if it boot cycles a few times just let it

[nocturne pollen]

Will I like lose progress or anything?

[muted patio]

It's retraining the RAM

No

[jagged ember]

Progress on what?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah

[nocturne pollen]

Well mainly just progress on anything: games, sites, etc..

[obsidian wigeon]

ram is temporary memory

[jagged ember]

Oh

No it won't

I was just curious what you meant lol

[obsidian wigeon]

It gets dumped into the storage drive before the os shuts down

[nocturne pollen]

Yeah I can see how that can be confusing

So 16 gb should be enough? It’s not worth upgrading to 32?

[obsidian wigeon]

32 would be nice, but 16 is okay if you game only

[muted patio]

DO you know how much ram you're using now while under load?

[obsidian wigeon]

Or ^

[nocturne pollen]

Not really

[jagged ember]

Okay

[nocturne pollen]

How should I test that?

[jagged ember]

Then 16 is enough

[muted patio]

Run the PC like you normally would with a game open, etc. Open Task Manager and check ram useage

If you're getting close to 16 GB used, get 32. If you're nowhere near 16 GB, then get 16Gb again

[wide stump]

what type of sizes are there for motherboards?

[stoic island]

it's a bunch of different standards, most commonly ITX, mATX, and ATX.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[muted patio]

MITX, ITX, MATX, ATX EATX

[wide stump]

thx

[stoic island]

I don't think mITX is a standard thing from ITX?

dunno tho, standards annoying

[muted patio]

Eh, mebbe not. I though there was a smaller iTX tho

[stoic island]

I think DTX or something

[jagged ember]

I thought it was just itx

[stoic island]

smol things

[muted patio]

Apparently there are both Mini and Micro ITX

a;lsdjfaskjdhfaslkdfh

[stoic island]

@muted patio pretty sure it refers to the same thing, 170m*170mm

[obsidian wigeon]

dtx is the new thing

It's.. weird

[nocturne pollen]

Playing Minecraft with shaders, I’m at like 11.4/16

But the frames kind of drop

[jagged ember]

What are those motherboards lol

[nocturne pollen]

Like it’s buggy

[muted patio]

Maybe it's Mini ITX and people just call it ITX

[jagged ember]

Probably

[muted patio]

IDK anymore

[jagged ember]

Compute stick tho

Wtf

Teeny tiny pc

[stoic island]

yea I think it's the same thing

[nocturne pollen]

If my frames are dropping when playing Minecraft with shaders, would that be my graphics card?

[jagged ember]

If you've got optifine for shaders turn on stuff like fast render

And lazy buffer and whatnot

[nocturne pollen]

Where’s that at?

[jagged ember]

Should be under performance?

Let me take a look at the options again

[obsidian wigeon]

fast render disables shaders tho

[nocturne pollen]

Yeah for some reason the game just doesn’t run smoothly when I put the shaders on

[jagged ember]

Not anymore

At least in 1.16.5

I can run shaders with fast render

[obsidian wigeon]

huh

[jagged ember]

Updates!

[nocturne pollen]

Is the fast render setting in the Shader options?

[obsidian wigeon]

Also that's gpu's fault for sure

[jagged ember]

https://gameplayerr.com/best-optifine-settings-for-fps/?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjA84fxsLbwAhUtL6YKHQZ_CE8Q9QF6BAgLEAI

[nocturne pollen]

I have fast render on

[jagged ember]

Aaa

Can't remove embed

Personally I don't touch gui scale

Makes the ui hard to use

For any adjustments they reccomend also use your own judgement

Turn up stuff that matters to you

Their guide is how you get as many frames as possible which includes turning off shaders lol

[nocturne pollen]

Will my frames go up with a better graphics card

I’m running on a 2060 rn

[jagged ember]

Yes

[nocturne pollen]

That’s probably why it’s so bad

[muted patio]

I mean

[jagged ember]

Oh dude you shouldn't be having too much of a problem

[muted patio]

2060 should do MC just fine

With no issues

[jagged ember]

Mc is totally within 2060 capabilities

[nocturne pollen]

With shaders?

[jagged ember]

Oh yeah

It'll do fine

[muted patio]

Yes

MC is also CPU dependent though

[jagged ember]

Mm

If the 2060 struggles my 2070s would also struggle

It does not

Unless my render distance is like 30 or above lmao

[muted patio]

I had a 2060 running 1440p and it did everything fine

[nocturne pollen]

Using those recommended settings, it works a lot better. I noticed turning up the render distance makes the frames drop a lot though

[jagged ember]

Oh that's expected

I keep render distance around 20 or less

Servers usually render 10 anyways

[nocturne pollen]

20 works great

Do you guys use texture packs too?

[jagged ember]

Yep

Not napp rn cause I got tired of napp

[nocturne pollen]

Any good ones?

[jagged ember]

Can try NAPP tbh

Looks very epic with POM turned on

But rn Im using faithful

[nocturne pollen]

What is POM?

[jagged ember]

I can't remember what it stands for exactly

[fossil cedar]

My gtx 960 equivalent ran 1080p high wt like 400fps consistent with no texture pack not much of a diff with texture packs

[jagged ember]

But allows 3d texture mapping on blocks

[fossil cedar]

Sooo mc really doesn't need much

[jagged ember]

Depends on if the pack actually has 3d mapping on its blocks though

[nocturne pollen]

Is POM only an option with texture packs?

[jagged ember]

Give me a moment and I can pull up some examples

[wide stump]

does the server do giveaways?

[nocturne pollen]

I’m still trying to find a good shader too

[jagged ember]

Ah

Sildurs

My personal favourite one

I've tried seus bsl and continuum

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah, no giveaways are in this server

[nocturne pollen]

Like this

[jagged ember]

Ha

Already using it

[nocturne pollen]

Think I’ve been using it

Yeah lol

[jagged ember]

Try the other ones

[fossil cedar]

Not the server but Newegg has some giveaways, check newegg YouTube channel they have a recent may the 4th giveaway you can still enter

[jagged ember]

Bsl and seus

[wide stump]

ok 🙂

[jagged ember]

Shaders are entirely preferential

[nocturne pollen]

I’ll check them out

Wasn’t really a fan of continuum

[jagged ember]

Yeah me neither

[nocturne pollen]

Is there a setting that like sharpens objects?

To get the napp pack, do you have to pay?

[jagged ember]

Nope

There's a free option

we should move this convo to #general-chat

not build related anymore lol

[fossil cedar]

Also depending on what shaders they have, i performed exactly the same with shaders on my r9 380 as 3070 I'm pretty sure it's just my specific shaders tho

[jagged ember]

but here's an example of NAPP with POM turned on

[obsidian wigeon]

My laptop is crying

That's some 3d textures

[nocturne pollen]

Where is the POM setting?

[jagged ember]

lemme show you

its under the 'normal map' setting

turn on parallax

@nocturne pollen

RP Support should be set to parallax

[nocturne pollen]

Thanks!

[frank stirrup]

What shaderpack is that?

[jagged ember]

NAPP with Sildurs

[frank stirrup]

Vibrant hurts the eyes after a while ngl. They do be way to bright and vibrant

[jagged ember]

can turn it down

it's very adjustable

[frank stirrup]

Fr?!

Great stuff

Where is the setting do be?

[jagged ember]

Somewhere I can't remember rn lol

Somewhere in the shader settings for saturation and brightness

[thorn veldt]

Hey guys need a suggestion here

Which Mobo should I consider for ryzen 4000 series

Probably gonna upgrade to 5000 after gpu prices become normal

[grim smelt]

Can someone suggest me a itx mobo for ryzen 5000?

[tight sorrel]

google: best AM4 ITX

[grim smelt]

🗿

[frank stirrup]

2nd and 3rd board are trash

1st is ok

[tight sorrel]

whats wrong with the MSI?

[frank stirrup]

gaming edge not great iirc

and the 3rd one is A series chipset

[tight sorrel]

I know the X570 gaming edge was crap, but as far as I know the B550 ones are ok

?

A series I know is bad but if the guy is on a budget...

[frank stirrup]

Its a tier 3

the b550

Not great

and A is ABSOLUTE grabage

[tight sorrel]

🤣

[frank stirrup]

Please dont recommend bad products to people

[grim smelt]

Can u recommend me one?

[tight sorrel]

calm down

[frank stirrup]

Whats ur budget?

[grim smelt]

175

Usd

[frank stirrup]

And you want itx?

[grim smelt]

Yeah