#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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Lol

round stream
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is it good to always turbo boost or only when I need to use it

muted patio
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CPU will turbo boost as it needs it

stoic island
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Why not boost

round stream
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idk is it bad for the cpu for 24/7 boosting

earnest olive
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oh hey gigabyte released a new bios for my mobo with agesa 1.2.0.2

stoic island
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No

earnest olive
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wonder if my 5600x can do 1900 fclk now lol

round stream
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oh okk

stoic island
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Oo 1.2.0.2 is noice

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Ya

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Also fixes usb thingies

earnest olive
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i am not looking forward to retuning my manual ram oc

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though apparently secondaries/tertiaries usually don't need to be changed?

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esp not moving from like 3733 to 3800?

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i know my ram is capable of 3800c14 at 1.5v, cpu was not capable of 1900 fclk without WHEA hell on agesa 1.2.0.1

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current settings

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wish ryzen could tune tREFI

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seeing mobo automatically set tREFI so low is sad

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my laptop is running tREFI at 41.89ns stable

stoic island
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1900 fclk = 1900 WHEAs

earnest olive
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ryzen desktop stuck at 7.8ns

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lol true

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from what i understand tREFI tuning can be huge for performance

tight sorrel
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something very wrong. I got a 3950x that doesnt go above 60c with a medium range AIO. Is your pump/block properly mounted, and has the protective plastic been removed from the bottom of the pump/block?

earnest olive
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zen 3 runs a lot hotter than zen 2

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and i'm talking about prime95 small ffts avx

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if i had a bad mount/plastic still there it would be pinned 90C at idle lol

tight sorrel
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90c doesnt sound right man. Zen 3 supposed to be more power efficient than Zen 2

earnest olive
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if i crank fans like an idiot at idle i can drop it down to like 30C

snow wasp
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but damn... my 5600x with ryzen master auto oc only hits 65 max with 240 mm aio

earnest olive
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under what load

snow wasp
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cpuz stress test and everything

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i've never seen it go above 65

earnest olive
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cpu-z stress test isn't a very heavy load

snow wasp
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what test do u run it under?

earnest olive
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even my laptop handles it

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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prime95 small ffts avx

frank stirrup
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only load

earnest olive
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idle temp matters when you want quiet system

lyric thistle
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just remove all the fans

earnest olive
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cinebench r20 maxed out 80C with a really meme 1.4v OC

lyric thistle
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boom quiet system

earnest olive
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just turn off the pc

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ultimate quiet

tight sorrel
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https://linustechtips.com/topic/1280487-amd-5600x-high-temps/

dude running the STOCK cooler is getting 80c with prime.

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your 90 with an 360 aio is not ok

earnest olive
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read closer

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it's running at 3.6ghz on his post lol

snow wasp
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Should it be running at higher speed?

earnest olive
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let it run for 15 mins and see what it's at

lyric thistle
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this craptop got up to 88c transferring files off my phone 😎

snow wasp
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Ok

earnest olive
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lol my laptop will spike to 95C opening literally anything

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before dropping back down

lyric thistle
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xd

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yea this one never does 90+

tight sorrel
earnest olive
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it's running around 65C all core now with gpu mining spitting heat into the cooling

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and like 15 firefox tabs open

earnest olive
lyric thistle
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running mc at 70c

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i5-2450m it's a tiny

earnest olive
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but yeah the cpu and the gpu share the same cooler

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and gpu has been at 100% load for the past 2 days straight

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@snow wasp when i start the stress test it holds like 4.8ghz all core but after a couple of mins drops to 4.4-4.45 all core

little osprey
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couse turbo boost 🤔

snow wasp
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It’s staying at 85 ish and all core 4.46

earnest olive
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oh yeah i forgot to mention ambient temp is like 25C

snow wasp
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Yea I expect that with all the fans u got 😂

earnest olive
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cali is hot

snow wasp
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It’s starting to get hot here in nyc too

little osprey
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hmm my 10700k hit 75C on all core 4.7ghz 🤔

earnest olive
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last summer AC broke in the middle of a heat wave

snow wasp
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But def not as hot as Cali

earnest olive
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so it was 110F outside and 104F in my room

tight sorrel
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Heard your fire season is starting earlier. hope its not as bad as last year

little osprey
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and omg why the heck 10700k eating 200w power 😂

earnest olive
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300W cpu power

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the 360 aio i put on it was rated for 280W

little osprey
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4.7ghz all core it consuming about 200w 🤔

earnest olive
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it's kind of funny seeing an 8 core cpu use 300W

little osprey
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intel is best Intel Intel

earnest olive
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and that was only at 1.35v

little osprey
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let me mess with overclock lol its fun

earnest olive
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see if you can beat mine

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highest 10700K on ambient cooling

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the 3 higher are all sub ambient 😛

tight sorrel
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"ambient cooling"?

earnest olive
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third place is using phase change cooling

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second place is using chilled water

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first place is using LN2

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delicious

little osprey
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nope . it slowing down to 4.7 couse thermal ig or power

earnest olive
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ambient cooling being a cooling solution you could actually run daily @tight sorrel

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air, aio, custom water (unchilled)

little osprey
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let me boost all fans to max and check again

earnest olive
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called so because you cannot get your temps below ambient temp

little osprey
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ugh corsair fans loud as jet

earnest olive
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sub-ambient cooling has some active element that reduces temps below the surrounding air (water chiller, liquid nitrogen, etc.)

little osprey
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liquid nitrogen cooling would be cool lol but I just have h110 😂

earnest olive
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such as this lovely 6.7ghz 11900K

little osprey
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damn

earnest olive
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running at 1.981V lol

tight sorrel
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honestly, thats the neatest ln2 I ever seen 😆

little osprey
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eh it hit 5ghz but then slowing down to 4.7 again

rich helm
civic tusk
earnest olive
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nah i walked into microcenter

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handed them $230

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walked out

civic tusk
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Nice

earnest olive
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not my build tho

snow wasp
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Been around 15 min

earnest olive
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i like running hwbot benches on builds before i send them off to their customers

snow wasp
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Got a little bit better?

civic tusk
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Still though finding such a high quality bin just like that is pretty lucky

snow wasp
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Running 4.47😂

earnest olive
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to be fair that is on 1 core 1 thread lol

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and not actually stable

little osprey
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alright . stabled it to all core 4.8 with about 75c 🤔

earnest olive
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it was still a good bin

civic tusk
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Ah the plot thickens

earnest olive
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not all 10700K are capable of 5.1ghz 1.35v stable

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but that one was

civic tusk
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Yeah that's true

little osprey
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mine hits 5ghz but then slowing down to 4.7 🤔

earnest olive
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that's normal when not overclocking

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@snow wasp what are your ambient temps? i used to live in brooklyn it snowed in april

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very hostile environment for native californian

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💀

snow wasp
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No snow in late spring this time around but I get around 35 idle

earnest olive
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ambient as in room temperature

snow wasp
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O

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Idk....

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But I wear a hoodie all the time

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If that gives any information lol

earnest olive
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mine fluctuates between 85-90 with ambient temp of 25C

little osprey
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anyways overclocking is eh . I'll leave it alone

earnest olive
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so 60-65C ΔT over ambient

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overclocking is fun

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hitting the 5ghz magic number is fun

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i got 5ghz on my laptop that was a gamer moment

civic tusk
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Simple move to alaska better ambient temps

earnest olive
civic tusk
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Lol

earnest olive
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too bad i can't make it stay at 5ghz

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but i have that one screenshot

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hehehehe

little osprey
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yeah its fun but still

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ill leave it alone lol

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I prefer get better cpu than overclocking it lol

earnest olive
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booo

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just do both

little osprey
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10700k on stock freq is very enough to me . usually working under 40-70% load Nice

lyric thistle
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no way

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do netiher

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😎

little osprey
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lol

earnest olive
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true just get a locked celeron

little osprey
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omg you reminded me those days

tight sorrel
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"celeron".. now thats a name I have not heard in a long time...

little osprey
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there was celeron and pentium cpus xd

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and I had core 2 duo cpu with 1gb of ram and 512mb gpu lmao

earnest olive
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well there are still new pentiums and celerons

little osprey
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what does they do lol

tight sorrel
little osprey
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can they play music at least ? xd

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since phones having 8 core or more cpus , its funny dual core cpu on pc uh

half narwhal
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Can anyone help me? I need 6 budget white rgb fans

tight sorrel
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rgb or argb

wicked frigate
tight sorrel
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rgb can do simple colour shifts, argb can do complex animations

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rgb fans will be much cheaper

muted patio
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Also voltage differences

rich helm
muted patio
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5V vs 12V

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3 pin vs 4 pin

tight sorrel
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everything @muted patio said

earnest olive
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celeron power

little osprey
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lmao

tight sorrel
little osprey
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2x 3090 with celeron...

tight sorrel
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😉

little osprey
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bottleneck god here 😂

earnest olive
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celeron under a custom loop with a TEC cooler

wicked frigate
tight sorrel
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lol.. the processor is the CHEAPEST thing on your list.. even cheaper than a resevoir!

earnest olive
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i ought to build it

tight sorrel
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let that sink in. a processor thats cheaper, than a plastic tube

earnest olive
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a celeron needs a 560 rad and a 480 rad right?

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i actually didn't even know 560 rads existed

tight sorrel
tight sorrel
earnest olive
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560mm rad that's 40mm thick without fans

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crazy

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wait i forgot to add fans to this

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lmao

tight sorrel
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just barely

earnest olive
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fixed it

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8 fans for each rad for push/pull

tight sorrel
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now I REALLY want you to build it.

little osprey
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rip

clear moat
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8700k bottlenecks 3080?

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Overclocked to 5.2

stoic island
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everything bottlenecks everything

lament fulcrum
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Anyone ever have cable extensions that dont work?

civic tusk
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Which really you should be with a 3080

clear moat
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RIP

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1080 GABG

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Gang

muted patio
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A 3080 for 1080p

clear moat
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Tru

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Will upgrade soon

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Feels bad man got em in sli

muted patio
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got what in sli

clear moat
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Trolling btw

lament fulcrum
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Jiggled the 24 pin a little and it came on after a few presses but i dont think that was the issue

fossil cedar
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24 pins a pain in the ass to get out tbh

vagrant olive
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fr every time i do i feel like im gonna snap the board in half

stoic island
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Death to 24pin

lament fulcrum
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the 8 pin eps is worse

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i ended up saying screw it and taking the whole top of my case off (which i didnt know i could do until i saw screws) to put the new sleeved cable in

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heh get it

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screw it

severe verge
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i needd help guys

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is this a good build at all?

stoic island
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wrong link

severe verge
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ok

stoic island
severe verge
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i really need help with the gpu part

fossil cedar
cursive patio
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i have 2 outtake and 4 intake fans should i make it 3 and 3 or is it ok

muted patio
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Slightly positive pressure keeps the dust out. Unless you're running into temp issues, leave it the way it is is fine

cursive patio
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ok im not running into temp issues thank you

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i just wanted to make sure

little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
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👍

clear moat
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24 pin do be scary

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Just migrated to a larger case and felt like I was finna break the damn mobo in half

fossil cedar
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Same lol

lament fulcrum
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while still being cheaper

stoic island
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you what

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@lament fulcrum since when is p400a cheaper

lament fulcrum
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i didnt mean cheaper than the p360 a

stoic island
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p360a is just a better option imo

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the price

lament fulcrum
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i like the full size glass

round stream
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did man get kicked for saying that

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lol

rich helm
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@neat marten ahh daisy chained gpu connectors

desert gulch
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thats how pcie cables look lol

rich helm
desert gulch
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ye thats normal

rich helm
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Optimally you should use separate ones

desert gulch
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nah

rich helm
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But just realized it’s a gtx card

desert gulch
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thats how they come tho

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thats mine

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legit thats how its susposed to look

rich helm
# desert gulch nah

I swear I’m not crazy and that I’ve heard this, that one cable can only take so much wattage so on higher end cards it’s better to use two separate psu cables

lyric thistle
desert gulch
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@earnest olive plz tell

lyric thistle
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is the shape it makes

desert gulch
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yes

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stock cables but whatever

earnest olive
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depends on the card and the psu

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official spec is 150W per cable

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but high quality power supplies will have overbuilt cables that can deliver more than spec

south jewel
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Is 650w good for a 3070?

earnest olive
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they wouldn't be putting daisy chains on high quality units if you weren't meant to be able to use them

desert gulch
south jewel
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R5 3600

rich helm
earnest olive
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my 3080 has no problem running full 370W off of a single cable

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would i recommend doing it? no

south jewel
earnest olive
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is it the end of the world? if you're not having issues, no

desert gulch
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ye my card has no issue with singular cable

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200 watts is ez for it

south jewel
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Alr thx guys

desert gulch
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and that dudes is a GTX

rich helm
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3060ti only having a single 8 pin

desert gulch
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meaning it doesnt prolly pull that much power

neat marten
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Yeah it pushes 250 watts

earnest olive
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250W is only a 25W overdraw over official spec

neat marten
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think i should run a seperate run eh?

earnest olive
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unless you have some 300W OEM psu from 2006 you're fine

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PCIe slot supplies 75W

lyric thistle
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psu's last legs

neat marten
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My PSU is a brand new corsair 750 watt

earnest olive
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it is technically better to not daisy chain if you can avoid it

neat marten
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btw hows everyone doing tonight?

earnest olive
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but it's not a big deal

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yeah I have a corsair txm 750

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no problem running a 3080 on daisy chain

neat marten
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XD

earnest olive
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I run 2 cables anyways but was testing out of curiosity

neat marten
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Probably close to same power consumption

earnest olive
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370 watts?

neat marten
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Nope nvm lol

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Whole sys or just gpu?\

earnest olive
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370W is almost a double overdraw

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just gpu

neat marten
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Jesus!!!!

earnest olive
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some 3080s go up to 450W

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mine is limited to 370W due to the model

neat marten
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I thought after Maxwell cards would get more efficient!!!!!

earnest olive
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they are

neat marten
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Thats a whole lotta heat to dissapate as well

earnest olive
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if you knocked down a 3080 to 980ti perf it would barely break a sweat

neat marten
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Yeah i get what your sayin there

earnest olive
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could probably keep pace with a 980ti using like 100 watts

neat marten
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that makes sense and the 980ti would still be pulling in effect 200

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so thats 2x effic

earnest olive
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980ti is similar perf to a 1660 super which tends to draw around 120 watts and is on an older arch

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980ti official tdp is 250w I'm sure you can make it draw more

neat marten
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Crazy how these gpus evolve

earnest olive
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1080ti official tdp is 250W but I had it overclocked to 375W

neat marten
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my whole sys can draw 500 watts with OC 5600x and GTX Titan X

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Thats alot of watts lol

earnest olive
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well, my cooling and psu can handle it

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push all the perf

neat marten
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what kinda cooling setup ya got?

earnest olive
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I even did this for a while that's 642W gpu alone

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272W on top 370W on bottom

neat marten
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Thats crazy as hell

earnest olive
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was not actually running them both at full power though lol

neat marten
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Not recomended anyway lol

earnest olive
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that image answers your question about my cooling setup though

neat marten
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I wanna get a 3060. Yeah rockin the air setup lol

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im surprised you could get that perf on air

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I need at least a 3060....i dont wanna downgrade on the vram

rich helm
neat marten
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nice build tho for sure

earnest olive
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i mean he's got a titan he probably does ML/renders or something

rich helm
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True

earnest olive
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3080ti has 12gb as well

rich helm
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Would a 3060 out perform a titan in renders tho

earnest olive
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it's a maxwell titan

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yes it would

rich helm
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True lol

neat marten
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OOOoooo all the Nvidia skus......

earnest olive
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if you are running vram intensive workload you could also look at AMD side

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rx 6800, 6800xt, and 6900xt all got 16gb

neat marten
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Thats deff my upgrade path....6800 or 3060

earnest olive
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i don't think a 3060 is a great upgrade from a 980ti

neat marten
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even 6700xt

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really?

earnest olive
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wait no you have a titan x

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uhh

neat marten
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yeah titan x

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i dont render....just gaming

earnest olive
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yeah it's only like 30% better in gaming

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3060 kinda sucks

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it's identical to 2060 super in gaming performance

neat marten
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I had no clue....i thought it would be a bigger perf bump

earnest olive
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3060 is the black sheep of ampere

neat marten
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yeah thats not a huge increase lol

earnest olive
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3060ti is like 30% better than 3060

neat marten
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if this card will last i may wait or go Amd I dont need all the rtx crap

earnest olive
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don't let vram be main deciding factor

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10gb is definitely enough for 4K

neat marten
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For sure

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I didnt think of it that way but you are right

earnest olive
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8gb is enough for 1440p and 4K now and will be enough for 1440p for the foreseeable future

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rtx 3070 will go obsolete before 8gb vram does

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same with rtx 3080 and 10gb

neat marten
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right right

earnest olive
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but yeah 3060 bad

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not big enough upgrade from titan x

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get 3060ti or rx 6700xt minimum

neat marten
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I deff agree

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My thing tho is my monitor right now is only 1080p lol I would like to have a spare care in case this one bites the dust lol

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a spare cheap card lol

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I used to have a 1440p monitor

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I was doing 4k gaming when the 980ti was coming into market

lyric thistle
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would you do 4k on a 1660 super bbnohappy

neat marten
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Had trouble maintaining 60fps tho at 4k

lyric thistle
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yea 😔

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people seem to get okay results going up to like 1440p with some 1080p cards like that

neat marten
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In triple A titles my old ass card still holds its own at 1440 and obviously 1080p

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I used to have a GTX 970 and it was good at 1440 as well

lyric thistle
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my friend uses an rx 480 at 1440p

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works for them I guess

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I'll stick with 1080p with my 970

earnest olive
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some people are satisfied with 30 fps

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console experience lol

neat marten
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I wanna get a high refresh 1080p or 1440p and need a gpu that will do 144 hz

lyric thistle
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I'm stuck with sub 30 fps bbnohappy

earnest olive
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damn what are you playing that pushes the 970 below 1080p30

lyric thistle
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nothing

neat marten
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Yeah right?

lyric thistle
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haven't built yet

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it's in an interim system

earnest olive
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i had one game that pushed my old 1060 6gb below 30 fps at 1080p ultra

neat marten
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You should be able to play almost anything @1080 p with a 970 lol

earnest olive
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and that was AC valhalla

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was capable of 50 fps at 1080p low

neat marten
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Dayumm lol

lyric thistle
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I think most of what I'll play is mc with shaders, assetto, wt, and probably forza if I ever get that

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some gtav mayb

neat marten
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I used to run GTA 5 on a 970 with everything on high 60 fps 1440

lyric thistle
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ez game to run p much

neat marten
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probably slightly overclocked

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Pretty optimized...mostly

lyric thistle
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I'll also have gta sa, nfs world, nfs underground in there too so not all graphically demanding stuff kekw

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might even play cities skylines

neat marten
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Should be a pretty decent experience

lyric thistle
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I'm excited bbnohappy

earnest olive
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gotta remember that gta 5 was made to run on the ps3

lyric thistle
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yea

earnest olive
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ps3 gpu is a slightly overclocked 7800 GTX

lyric thistle
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very small gpu

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non unified shaders

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an okay amount of rops tho which my gt 730 does not have

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got like 8 rops kekw

earnest olive
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according to passmark the gtx 970 has 4381% of the performance of the 7800GTX

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so...

neat marten
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that thing should 4k all day ;^P

lyric thistle
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xd

earnest olive
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if the game is designed to run on a 7800 GTX it'll run great on a gpu that's 44 times stronger

neat marten
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XD

earnest olive
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as for the ps3 cpu it's really hard to compare because it's not at all similar to any normal pc hardware

neat marten
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Bout to rip in some dirt rally 2.0 you guys have a good one

earnest olive
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you too

lyric thistle
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yea I've been playing stuff with my gt 730 since 2015

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u2

neat marten
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add me if you would like

earnest olive
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damn gt 730 to gtx 970 is a big upgrade

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more than 1200%

lyric thistle
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:)

neat marten
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7thitty

earnest olive
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what cpu paired with it?

lyric thistle
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4790

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the 730 is on the 4790, and the 970 is currently on a Phenom II 955

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which is

earnest olive
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4790 + 970 not bad

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my friend just gave me a killer deal on her old 4770k + 16gb ddr3-2133 + z87 maximus hero for $110 shipped

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probably going to pair it with a 1060 or something like that

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1650S or RX 580 perhaps

lyric thistle
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nice

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my thought process went rx 590? no...rx 580? no...gtx 1650s? yea...oh they don't exist anymore...sad...oh this article says 970s are cheap on ebay...gtx 970 ✅

earnest olive
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how much did you spend on it?

lyric thistle
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195 plus tax

earnest olive
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not bad

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i chose a gtx 970 for gf's first pc

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a bit overkill for the games she plays but the price was right

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180 shipped for a strix

lyric thistle
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nice

earnest olive
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r/hardwareswap tends to be a bit cheaper than ebay

lyric thistle
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mine's an asus oem card, black slab cooler shroud

desert gulch
earnest olive
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didn't know asus made oem cards

lyric thistle
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they don't seem to list it anywhere which is iffy

earnest olive
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ah yes you're right 3090 is reasonable for her league of legends and genshin impact

lyric thistle
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but II plugged it in and it ran properly, true 970

desert gulch
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gotta trace all dem rays

lyric thistle
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which ones

earnest olive
#

ray traced leona ult

lyric thistle
#

that one ⬇️ or that one ➿ or this one 📈

vagrant mountain
#

guys what part of the unit should you put led stips

#

strips

lyric thistle
#

yes

vagrant mountain
#

😭

runic magnet
#

how do i get epic 30 series

vagrant olive
desert gulch
vagrant olive
#

any recommendations on a good 750W psu, on the cheaper side?

desert gulch
#

both of these are very good

#

depends on ur definition of "cheap" tho

vagrant olive
#

yeah thats a good price point

desert gulch
#

ye

vagrant olive
#

thanks

desert gulch
#

at those prices id prolly go enermax

#

altho amp is very good aswell

vagrant olive
#

kk

#

bc the multi rail thing?

desert gulch
#

actually on amazon amp has free shipping

#

kinda ye

south jewel
cold sorrel
#

I'm still happy with my EVGA 3060. It's gonna be a jump up over the aging laptop 1060 I've been gaming on. And hey, I got it just under 400 bucks.

lyric thistle
#

nice

gusty abyss
#

I was lucky to get one of their 3070s, great card

cold sorrel
#

I won the Newegg shuffle a couple of weeks back

gusty abyss
#

I have a friend who entered the evga queue for every card on day 1, he got himself a 3080ftw3 and is just passing along the deal for the rest

#

I entered the queue a little late but I'll probably do the same

cold sorrel
#

Also, had a weird question. Would it be okay to just use the same SATA power cable to run both the one hard drive and the fan hub for my case fans? Or do I need to go ahead and plug in two to the PSU?

covert vapor
#

Your SATA power cable has multiple connection points on the same cable yeah? It'll be fine, as most SATA power cables are designed to power more than one thing like a hard drive

#

The good ones that come with psus (usually) are able to at least, I dunno about some ketchup and mustard cable you can find cheap on Amazon

lyric thistle
#

my Lenovo CH81m has an output on the board next to the 14 pin board power that goes to the hard drives

#

cable that came with it had like 3 connections

#

wild

little osprey
#

Hey can someone can answer my question? I will soon get a rtx 3080 and I was wondering what brand and model should I get

robust lake
#

@little osprey doesnt realy matter tbh ,you can always put thermal pads if the vram gets too hot . Just get whatever in stock

#

If you can choose i would get the ftw3 or strix

little osprey
#

Well do u want me to show you my options ?

robust lake
#

Yeah

little osprey
#

Ok I will screenshot and I will send them

#

I have €1030 and I think my budget is €1350 with is the auros master

robust lake
#

Hmm

#

Those prices are abit expensive

little osprey
#

Yeah but they are the cheapest in market

robust lake
#

But if you will get it anyway i would get the msi ventus one for 1300

little osprey
#

But don’t worry I would get the money back lots of tournament with price bulls are happening

robust lake
#

The strix is the best but 200 more euros not worth it..

little osprey
#

What about the auros master ? I think is around my budget plus I heard is pretty good

robust lake
#

Is that the water cooled one?

little osprey
#

One level under xtreme

#

Yeah

#

1500

#

Tho

#

And it’s the xtreme

#

Fastest 3080

robust lake
#

The air cooled one has some vram issues i think

little osprey
#

Yeah but I think they fixed it

robust lake
#

Need to research it if they did its a good one i guess

little osprey
#

(I am talking about the latest drop)

#

I think master is the best option

#

Is it ?

robust lake
#

If they fixed the thermal pads issue it should be good yeah

#

Just look into it before buying

little osprey
#

Soo master it is ?

fossil cedar
#

Just get whatever card you can get for the cheapest they all perform within 1 or 2%

vague oracle
#

As long as it isn’t zotac or gigabyte but gigabyte is more of a personal issue

#

Their RMA process is horrible

#

Sent a card to them 6 times and they still haven’t repaired it

fossil cedar
#

No it really doesn't matter which one

#

If it's a 3080 and want to mine with gigabyte or zotac, they will want to add/replace thermal pads but just whichever you can get at cheapest

little osprey
#

zotac forgetting thermal pads lol

south jewel
#

Zotac is literally zotac

flint sapphire
obsidian wigeon
#

zotac: it just worx

tight sorrel
#

so what youre saying is... Zotac got some QC issues? Am I gertting this right?

south jewel
little osprey
#

zotac amp holo series good actually but you definitely need check thermal pads if you buy zotac card . sometimes they forgetting some thermal pads lol

normal inlet
#

I can confirm that switching thermalpads on zotac gtx 1080 ti mini helped with thermals and sound levels bc it comes with crappy ones out of the factory

little osprey
#

yeah

#

ugh amd drivers really sux uh

#

why the heck driver crashing when I switch game monitor 1 to monitor 2 uh

sharp bear
#

What do you think about this build?

tight sorrel
#

see if you can get 3600mhz ram

#

rest seems ok

wicked frigate
#

Guys what’s a really good air flow case for a cheap price

#

Less than $80

worn wave
#

P360A

muted patio
#

Cougar MX330 or Metallic Gear Neo Air

wicked frigate
#

Ok thx

#

Guys what’s intel WIFI AX200

potent portal
#

A wireless module to connect to your router

wicked frigate
#

How does it work

#

Do I connect it to my mobo

potent portal
stoic island
#

mx330-g air to be specific

potent portal
#

It'll depend on the interface. Some motherboards will have the needed slot for the module, others will need a pci adapter.

wicked frigate
#

Why is it called intel

#

I ahev dark hero

potent portal
#

Because intel makes it

wicked frigate
#

I’ll just rub ether liner I think

#

Ethernet

muted patio
#

Intel WiFi is good

#

almost as fast as ethernet

worn wave
#

It depends on your ISP speed though

muted patio
#

That's not ISP speed

potent portal
#

I'm pretty sure the dark hero comes with the wifi module built in

muted patio
#

That's Intranet

#

not internet

wicked frigate
#

But isn’t Ethernet better

muted patio
#

Depends

potent portal
#

Sometimes

wicked frigate
#

How

#

What does it depend on

potent portal
#

Can be better latency

#

With a wire

wicked frigate
#

Does it matter on my router

#

Because I need to get a new one

#

I need to get a router of 1500square feet

potent portal
#

If your wifi connection speed reported by windows exceeds your isp speed rating it should be the same speed wired and wireless.

muted patio
#

Exactly. Ethernet speeds won't do you any good if your internet speed is only 200 MB/s

wicked frigate
#

Mines like 100

#

Sadly

#

But my router give like 80

#

So I need to get a new one

potent portal
#

Then it won't matter, and unless you need every ms of latency you can use wireless just fine

muted patio
#

So at that point, ethernet won't make it any faster. WiFi should be fine depending on signal strength

wicked frigate
#

I meant wouldn’t I get packet loss

muted patio
#

I'm on the second floor and still fast

#

No

wicked frigate
#

Vs on Ethernet I won’t

#

Because that’s what happens

#

Jen I play

potent portal
#

Only in extreme cases or very old routers

wicked frigate
#

I use Ethernet form a extndeor

#

Rn

muted patio
#

Just means your WiFi is bad. I get 0 packet loss

wicked frigate
#

And I get 0%

#

Ohh

#

But I think it’s my router

#

Because I get 80 speed when my plan is 100

muted patio
#

Need to do a ping test

wicked frigate
#

Ok

muted patio
#

see where the packet loss is

wicked frigate
#

But should I get a new router

potent portal
#

Tracert time

wicked frigate
muted patio
#

Not without knowing where the issue is

wicked frigate
#

How do I find out where the packet loss it

#

Is

sacred kayak
#

idk

muted patio
wicked frigate
#

Also

#

Mine disconnects in middle of me playing because it says dns servers can’t be found

#

Kr something like that

potent portal
#

That's your isp for that issue

muted patio
#

Test

#

for

#

packet

wicked frigate
#

How do I fix that

muted patio
#

loss

wicked frigate
muted patio
#

Then do it later

wicked frigate
#

I am in school lol

potent portal
#

You can manually set to the Google dns and you shouldn't have the dns issue any more

muted patio
#

Maybe

flint sapphire
wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

Wait guys another thing

#

When I build my pc I am going to build but I won’t have a gpu is that ok but won’t turn it on

#

Like should I mount the aio

#

And screw the pump

potent portal
#

It won't boot unless you have a gpu or your processor has a built in gpu

muted patio
#

Yo shouldn't buy anything until you have a GPU

#

Warranties and return periods are ticking away

#

Get a GPU then buy the other parts that are accessible

wicked frigate
#

I mean I do that’s an 1050ti

muted patio
#

Then leave it in the boxes until you're ready to build

potent portal
#

That'll work to get it built and tested at least

wicked frigate
#

I am using it in my old build rn

#

Wait if I screw in My pump will anything happen to the thermal paste

#

If I don’t use my pc at all

potent portal
#

No it's shelf stable, you could leave it in the box for a year and it would still be usable. It's fine being attached and unused the same way.

wicked frigate
#

What about it being attached and not being used for a year

potent portal
#

That's fine too. It'll start to dry out eventually but that takes years

muted patio
#

If you're not going to use it for a year send it back XD

wicked frigate
#

No I will I was making up an example

#

Also

#

Do I have to replace the thermal paste

#

After being used a lot

#

Or no

potent portal
#

Nah stock paste is fine usually

#

Just repaste every few years

wicked frigate
#

How does it last

#

How long

potent portal
#

2-5 years depending on factors

#

Usually every 3 years I redo my paste

wicked frigate
#

Ok how do ik when to replace tin

#

It

#

My aio is coming today and build this week

potent portal
#

You'll start to notice the temperature being higher than usual for the time of year and cleaning the fans and radiator don't help

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

So in that case just replace it right

potent portal
#

Yeah you just wipe off the old paste with 90% isopropyl alcohol

#

And then put new paste

#

That applies to air coolers too, and gpu

wicked frigate
#

How do I do it on a gpu

potent portal
#

Lower end stuff like your 1050 ti it won't make much difference on since it doesn't run hot anyway

#

But you can unscrew the heatsink on a gpu and wipe /repaste the same way as a cpu

wicked frigate
#

Ok

potent portal
#

If it was a 1080 ti it might be time to replace the paste by now

wicked frigate
#

Wait so will 1050ti work for now

#

Or I might just plug it in for now

#

Get windows all that and take it out

#

And put it my old system

potent portal
#

Yeah you can do 1080p medium - high gaming on a 1050 ti still

wicked frigate
#

Also why is 011 case so Connor used for streamed and pros

#

Ok

#

Commons

muted patio
#

011 is a bad case IMO, airflow is so gross

potent portal
#

Because it looks cool when you fill all the fan slots with rgb

wicked frigate
#

I mean 9 fans though

muted patio
#

bad airflow tho

wicked frigate
#

Yah

muted patio
#

Can't balance it

wicked frigate
#

Will anythingoverheat

#

9i take 3 exhaust

potent portal
#

Probably not, it's just not ideal

wicked frigate
#

??????

#

6

potent portal
#

Run the exhaust fans faster than the intake

wicked frigate
#

Why not all 100

#

Look

muted patio
#

Because air will be imbalanced and not move

wicked frigate
#

Lol

#

I see

#

So should Dino 3 exhaust at top

potent portal
#
  1. That would be very loud and annoying
  2. It won't move air as effectively
wicked frigate
#

9 intake front and bottom

#

6

#

So what should I put the fan speed for intake and exhaust

potent portal
#

If you have 3 intake and 3 exhaust, they can be equal speeds. If you have radiators on your intake, you can have one or two more intake and have it be pretty balanced still. Any more unbalanced than that, you'll need to play with it to see what the best settings are.

wicked frigate
#

I am going to do 3 exhaust in radiator

#

And rest intake

#

I think

potent portal
#

6 intake and 3 exhaust through radiator? Not ideal by any stretch.

#

You'd probably need to run the exhaust near max speed constantly

wicked frigate
#

Not like 3 exhaust on radio rn

#

And rest are intake from bottom and front

#

Or is that not good

potent portal
#

You could front mount the radiator as an intake and it would help a little

wicked frigate
#

I have 011

#

Let me try the packet thing

#

Wtf is this

#

Guys

#

It just says replying from 1.1.1.1

#

Than it says bytes= time= and TTL=

muted patio
#

mmmhmmm

wicked frigate
#

Ummmmm

potent portal
#

Wait for the 100 pings to go through and it will tell you at the end how many were lost

wicked frigate
#

Ok

potent portal
#

Along with min /max /average stats

wicked frigate
#

My download is like 5 MB/s

#

Lol

potent portal
#

Doesn't matter, ping packets are teeny tiny

wicked frigate
#

I am download something

#

Updating

#

And that’s what I says lol

#

Ok I got the results

#

Now what

potent portal
#

That's fine, worst case the ping latency goes up

#

Can you Screenshot the results

muted patio
#

Did it report any packet loss?

wicked frigate
#

Is says lost=o (0% loss)

muted patio
#

Good

wicked frigate
#

But than why does it kick me out of my games

muted patio
#

What servers are you connecting to, what region?

#

Cuiz you're in SA IIRC

wicked frigate
#

Umm how do I check

#

What that

muted patio
#

SOuth America ya?

wicked frigate
#

No north

#

America

potent portal
#

Latency probably, that can be router, isp, or even game server

muted patio
#

Probs game server

potent portal
#

Often yeah

muted patio
#

If on East and playing on West for example

wicked frigate
#

No it only happens to me

#

In game I play o easy

potent portal
#

If it's a CoD server there's not really a way to fix that lol

wicked frigate
#

Let me try to find it and send itn

muted patio
wicked frigate
#

Wait when connected to Ethernet

#

Do I have to be connect to my WiFi too

potent portal
#

No

#

Better to do one or the other

wicked frigate
#

Not like that right

#

Only the top bar

#

The Ethernet symbol

muted patio
#

Use one or the other

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

Thx

little osprey
#

no 3090 today 🤔

potent portal
#

Not yet at least

#

They might update it later

wicked frigate
#

When I am connect to the Ethernet

#

Nothing loads

#

That’s why I have to be connect to and the one too why is that

south jewel
potent portal
#

Disable wifi and Restart the computer and it might fix the ethernet connection

wicked frigate
#

I don’t that’s everyday

#

Lol

#

I do

#

I meant

#

When I did this I loaded right away

potent portal
#

It didn't go over 40% fan doing stress testing

south jewel
#

$630 for a evga 3070

potent portal
#

More fans isn't a bad thing lol, it'll stay nice and cool

wicked frigate
#

Just go to Taiwan lol

potent portal
#

It's just a bit longer than the average 3060

south jewel
#

I play warzone

#

A pretty heavy game

potent portal
#

3070 has more risk of overheating depending on which model you get. A few brands put no thermal pads on the VRAM.

#

Which is easy to fix of course, you just have to take it apart and add more

south jewel
#

Do you know evga? I

muted patio
#

I have one, it's fine

south jewel
#

Thx

potent portal
#

Yeah iirc they put a few pads, but not the best. Still sufficient for gaming, not so much mining.

muted patio
#

It's fine for mining

#

My XC3 ultra going ham for a month now

south jewel
potent portal
#

Anecdotal reports of course, different people will have different results

supple gale
#

so.. front usb on this pc. one of the ports is badly damaged, the other is fine. the wire to plug them in is separate for each port but they connect at the base of the wire where you plug it in. plugging them in causes "usb device over current status detected"

#

exactly how dangerous would it be to just cut off the one wire leading to the dead port

potent portal
#

Just don't cross the wires and you're fine

#

A little electrical tape on the end after you snip the cable will make sure it doesn't short

supple gale
#

imagine this wire heads to the front IO

#

snipping the bad one fine with electric tape

#

got it

#

now to find my electric tape.

potent portal
#

Best to snip at the point where the wire splits off to the port

#

Make sure if there's multiple wires inside the sleeve, the ends don't touch

supple gale
#

got it thanks HugGhost

wicked frigate
#

Hey guys so I will have may softwares for my rgb is there a way I can connect all of them so like the rgb sync together

potent portal
#

You can try openrgb but it might not work for everything

wicked frigate
#

Anythib else

potent portal
#

The different softwares are kind of designed not to cooperate with each other lol

wicked frigate
#

Ohh

#

Ok than

supple gale
#

will update if i blow up

wicked frigate
#

Random question can u change ur ip

#

My friend is tracking me lol

muted patio
wicked frigate
#

Ik

#

He weird

fossil cedar
#

Sounds like you need to change your friend not ip :/

wicked frigate
#

Ok

#

Dang

stoic island
#

both

#

and you could ask your ISP to change your IP

potent portal
#

Most ISPs do dynamic, shared IP anyway

misty heron
#

whats a good 1k pc

round stream
#

r5 3600 and 3060ti

#

idk

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
empty cipher
#

I have a AMD Ryzen 3600 and a RX 5500 XT put onto a ASUS ROG B550-F Gaming Motherboard.

#

It can get 120 FPS on medium graphics in stuff like warzone and some other newer games.

fossil cedar
#

Thats an okay pc but would not recommend that for someone trying to buy atm

empty cipher
#

No, definitely not. I got lucky and bought a pre-built and upgraded with parts that I was working on from a different PC.

misty heron
#

My cousin wants to play subnautica

fossil cedar
misty heron
#

I c

empty cipher
#

A 650 should be able to play Subnautica.

#

GTX 650*

#

Put with maybe a AMD 3 1200 or so.

#

On maybe medium settings.

misty heron
#

He could put a 3600

empty cipher
#

Yeah

#

True

fossil cedar
#

Ehh I'd recommend an i5 11500 and waiting on getting a gpu

empty cipher
#

That would put things in play especially for a few better games.

#

I am just recommending something you can still get for cheap.

#

Well, cheaper.

misty heron
#

He has 1k budget

empty cipher
#

Ahh

#

Okay

#

Didn't see budget.

#

A Ryzen 5 3600 would be perfect.

#

That's what I have.

muted patio
#

Intel 10400F is cheaper and more FPS in games. 😉

misty heron
#

Yea same i just cant give him informed build since i only know how to build

#

Is it?

muted patio
#

Yes

empty cipher
#

And then wait on a GPU or get a 1650 to settle on for now. Like $350-$400 on New Egg.

muted patio
#

Intel 10400F/B560 motherboard and DDR4 3200 ram

misty heron
#

Ah we at microcenter rn

fossil cedar
muted patio
#

or regular 10400 if it's cheaper

misty heron
#

He says that k is better than f

covert vapor
#

Nope to that link. Anyways, normal 10400 is 165 USD

empty cipher
#

Dang, really???

covert vapor
#

No cooler

empty cipher
#

Now I regret getting an ASUS B550-F

misty heron
#

What mobo could go with a 10600k

empty cipher
#

Oh, okay. That is the down fall. You want a cooler none the less.

muted patio
#

K series should be Z490 or 590

misty heron
#

Would b450 be good enough

muted patio
#

SO you can overclock

#

B450 is AMD not Intel

misty heron
#

Ah then what mobo

muted patio
#

Z490

#

Probs an Asus Prime Z490

empty cipher
#

Yeah, AMD is better for processing some things, but I think Intel would be better for rendering games.

muted patio
#

Depends on the budget TBH

misty heron
#

I dont c it at microcenter rip

fossil cedar
misty heron
#

Ok but which company for 3060

#

What companies r good for gpus

fossil cedar
#

The cheapest one you can get

empty cipher
#

I would have to go to Georgia if I wanted to buy something from Microcenter.

midnight vigil
fossil cedar
midnight vigil
#

ik but 600w

fossil cedar
midnight vigil
#

yeah but they might upgrade

empty cipher
#

Yeah, I recommend a 750W PSU

fossil cedar
midnight vigil
#

Yeah

#

Ok ig

fossil cedar
empty cipher
#

I know, but I mean if they're going to upgrade later.

fossil cedar
empty cipher
#

Idk their situation

fossil cedar
#

You can barely find a gpu for 400

empty cipher
#

I can't say anything though. I got a 550W lmao

potent portal
#

A good 650W can even handle a 3070 (not overclocking)

empty cipher
#

Hopefully by December this stupid shortage will be over.

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
empty cipher
#

Dang

#

That sucks

#

By that time we'll have new cards available!

fossil cedar
#

Yep

potent portal
#

Exactly

fossil cedar
#

40 series will be just coming out

empty cipher
#

It won't be worth the time of waiting then lol

potent portal
#

They'll have the new 5nm fabs running then

fossil cedar
empty cipher
#

Yeah, I hope it won't be like this year

fossil cedar
#

In case they can't get gpu for 400

empty cipher
misty heron
#

Ok so he said he would use an amd

empty cipher
#

Okay

fossil cedar
misty heron
#

3600 and a b450 should be fine

fossil cedar
empty cipher
#

Lol

misty heron
#

Is it?? Awe dang

fossil cedar
#

And no onbard graphics to use until you get a gpu

muted patio
#

11500 and B560 MB maybe?

fossil cedar
potent portal
#

Intel is the bang for buck budget option these days

muted patio
#

Compared to 3600 at same price point INtel spanks em

empty cipher
#

I am going to save up $900 and just get a 40 series when they come out.

misty heron
#

I dont c a 11500

midnight vigil
#

rtx 4010

south jewel
#

Sounds pog

fossil cedar
misty heron
#

Were gonna go to bestbuy after for video card

#

Cause these guys got reaped

fossil cedar
#

If you refuse to buy stuff online then get 11400

fossil cedar
potent portal
muted patio
misty heron
#

Ah they dont

fossil cedar
potent portal
#

They don't stock them in store, very small chance someone returned one

empty cipher
potent portal
#

Yeah that's a decent 1080p card for now

fossil cedar
empty cipher
#

It can get 1440P

fossil cedar
#

Debatable

#

XD

potent portal
#

In some games sure but try running CoD lol

muted patio
#

50-60 fps

empty cipher
#

And it plays fortnite at 60 FPS in 1440]

potent portal
#

Fortnite is more cpu bound

muted patio
#

fortnite is one of the easiest games to run ever

#

Shouldn't be used as a benchmark, you can run it on a GT710