building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

heads up about wallpaper engine

videos use a lot more system resources than animated scenes

look for animated scenes unless you absolutely must have a video

[chilly cedar]

Greetings frens. May i ask a technical question about a build i'm working on?

[frank stirrup]

yes

ask away

[chilly cedar]

What options would i have for a X570 MoBo that would accept a new AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core 3.8 GHz Socket AM4 without updating the BIOS?

I prefer ASUS but seems like everything will need a BIOS flash for new CPU

[frank stirrup]

Yes but you can bios flash without the cpu installed on many boards

also why x570

b550 is great as well

[chilly cedar]

thanks for question

trying to build out a gaming PC - mainly gaming + streaming vid is only purpose

[frank stirrup]

Do you plan on overclocking heavily

[chilly cedar]

trying to cram in best CPU for $ - made my shoice there

yes i love to OC but i don't know what I'm doing

But love it - have liquid cooling already

[frank stirrup]

do you plan on upgrading to a 5900x or so?

[chilly cedar]

hjopefully won't upgrade CPU for a long time

[frank stirrup]

In that case a decent b550 board is the best bang for the buck for you.

[chilly cedar]

in your opinion would i miss out on any performance whatsover (re: gaming & streaming) w/ b550 instead of the x570?

[frank stirrup]

not at all

[fossil cedar]

nope

[chilly cedar]

great thanks gents

but is there a board i don't have to flash - that will take the Ryzen 5000 series?

OIC - thanks again!

I'm about to purchase this build from NewEgg with #dogecoin!

[fossil cedar]

just make sure its not a bottom of the barrel b550

[chilly cedar]

what specs to look for? Or you mean in general

[snow wasp]

I’m pretty sure a crosshair dark hero doesn’t need bios update

But updating bios literally takes a couple of minute...

I’ve done it 3 times already cuz of the amd usb issue

[chilly cedar]

Thanks @snow wasp but i'm finding a number of boards are ready for the CPU if i go b550

[frank stirrup]

b550 is a newer chipset

[snow wasp]

Yea great if it works, but in case it doesn’t then It’s just a little work to update it

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh well you'll want one that has bios flashback but most decent ones will have that, but you'll need something that will have sufficient vrms i can't think of any off the top of my head but something like an asus tuf or something should do

[fossil cedar]

This is really hit or miss tbh depends on vendor etc too if they've had them sitting on a shelf

[frank stirrup]

asus tuf or gigabyte aorus elite

[snow wasp]

Idk I was watching a video the other day and it’s 5000 cpu ready off the shelf it says

Or strix b550-f is a popular option too, but ultimately just see what every motherboard offers and compare it to what you’ll need

[chilly cedar]

wasn't aware that flashback can update without the CPU - easy peasy

[snow wasp]

Yea it makes it a whole lot easier

[frank stirrup]

with cpu or without

format a flash drive to fat32

[fossil cedar]

or msi mpg edge

[frank stirrup]

drag all the bios files from the .zip into the drive

press button on mobo

[snow wasp]

He meant that u can update bios without having the cpu installed

[chilly cedar]

indeed - looking at this guy - ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS (WI-FI) AM4 AMD B550 SATA 6Gb/s

[frank stirrup]

yes well the process is the same even if you have the cpu installed...

[snow wasp]

Yea

[frank stirrup]

its a good board for sure

[snow wasp]

I feel like I over spend on strix b550-e for like 250

But I got a $60 off so I’m fine with it being 190

[chilly cedar]

Whoa - this may be the board - ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (WiFi 6) AMD AM4 (3rd Gen Ryzen) ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0, 2.5Gb LAN, BIOS FlashBack

u like the strix?

[snow wasp]

I’ve seen a lot of ppl have this one

[frank stirrup]

What price you getting it for

[chilly cedar]

seems just right

[snow wasp]

Yea I got no problems with it other than the usb issue

[chilly cedar]

178 with discount

[frank stirrup]

Yeah its a very nice board for that price

[chilly cedar]

plus buying with dogecoin so price not a big issie

W0W

such thanks

[snow wasp]

Sounds nice yea

[chilly cedar]

very apprecite

[frank stirrup]

You will have to update bios tho

[snow wasp]

Doge coin....

I had about 1k and sold it around 5 cent each

I’m crying now

😭

[chilly cedar]

oh wow

im an old miner

doge millionair

🤪 🤓

sry

[snow wasp]

I’m still thinking if I should let my 3070 mine eth

Or even doge

It won’t void the warranty right?

[chilly cedar]

naw - all thru bitpay - NewEgg direct

[fossil cedar]

Yes free moneys while no gaming just tweak some settings

[chilly cedar]

$150 in doge last month = $1K upgrade right now

[fossil cedar]

It will not

[snow wasp]

The thing is I live at my uncle’s house so how am I suppose to tell him about the sudden spike in electric bill 😂

[chilly cedar]

giving NewEgg big props on my twitter for it

[fossil cedar]

It's not very much, 120-130w of power being drawn just pay him the difference?

[chilly cedar]

not here to 'pump' but we really are going to the moon guys.

[fossil cedar]

Meh i just do it to pay back my gpu

[chilly cedar]

been in it since 1/2014 - Waives Hand - "We are not the joke you're looking for..."

[snow wasp]

Do u guys know with a strix 3070 how long would it take me to get back 760😂 with mining eth

[chilly cedar]

o crud - the board is 'open box' - that means stuff will be missing?

why it is that price 😩

[snow wasp]

It’s going for 178 for me on Amazon but I’m pretty sure Amazon doesn’t accept doge coin as an payment

[languid cloak]

Any suggestion for a monitor. Will be used for Adobe apps and extreme 4k gaming

[desert gulch]

Well what's ur budget

[snow wasp]

Go with the windows version of XDR that Linus introduced in one of his videos 😂

I’m pretty sure it’s like a couple grand

[rich helm]

Like 4-5 months full time mining or something

[little osprey]

miner alert xd

[potent portal]

So? I'm mining too. Decent money can be made for little effort.

Once I get set up how I want I expect around $20 a day with 3 GPUs and a CPU mining after power cost

[fossil cedar]

same goes. its not worth my time and heat to mine with cpu but i make around €5/day on a 3070 ti make some extra money/pay for my card

[desert gulch]

Ahhh nice on parents electricity bill?

[fossil cedar]

its ntb and i pay my parent for it acc

[desert gulch]

O nice

[fossil cedar]

bout €14/month

[snow wasp]

honestly us gamers mining during free time is actually good cuz that means eth is harder to mine for the actual hardcore miners

[earnest olive]

ehh

as one of said small miners

we don't even make a dent

a 3080 is like 100 mh/s max when system is otherwise idle and screen is off

there are mining farms with hundreds of gh/s

[snow wasp]

i mean it's better than nothing

[earnest olive]

this giant farm doesn't care about our tiny little 3080

[stoic island]

yep

[snow wasp]

yea ik but the point here is we do make it a bit harder even if it a small percent that u can ignore xD

[earnest olive]

one 3080 mining 24/7 at full speed represents a portion of the pool so small that the calculator can't even display it normally

9.017 * 10^(-5) percent

and that's just one pool

on one currency

that single farm has the equivalent of 24,000 rtx 3080s

[steel sigil]

wish i could build a pc and upgrade my old ass computer

[fossil cedar]

All the peoples do, it is possible to actually upgrade your cpu tho

[earnest olive]

everything is fine except graphics cards

[desert gulch]

Depends

You should def build a new pc tho

[earnest olive]

unless you're an amd fanboy that demands more than 8 cores

[desert gulch]

10/10 would reccomend

[desert gulch]

Hey I'm a intel shill now

For sub 300 dollar cpus

[earnest olive]

i was referring to the 5900x and 5950x stock issues

5600x and 5800x have good availability now

[desert gulch]

I was a amd fanboy

[earnest olive]

5600x less so

[desert gulch]

Ye

[earnest olive]

5800x is always available

because almost nobody wants it

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's stoppid pricing for 5800x

100 under 5900x

So much more cores/perf

[earnest olive]

when i get home i'm considering looking for deals on used 5800x

[desert gulch]

Not as bad as 11900k pricing tho

[earnest olive]

cause my 5600x is a giga potato bin

so i want a new chip lol

[fossil cedar]

That's dumb as hell yes

[desert gulch]

I'll trade you

[earnest olive]

ive already seen $380 for 5800x

[desert gulch]

3600 for 5600x

[earnest olive]

wonder where it'll be in a month

[fossil cedar]

Used already?

[desert gulch]

You pay shipping

[earnest olive]

yeah ive seen used 5800x for 380

incl shipping

[desert gulch]

Ye they're decent prices when used

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but how ppl selling used already

[desert gulch]

Bc they want more cores or sumthin prolly

[earnest olive]

mostly people who upgraded from 5800x to 5900x/5950x

[desert gulch]

Or realize that 5800x is way overkill for them

[earnest olive]

a lot of rich people got 5800x as a stopgap

while waiting for availability

but not rich enough to just buy a scalped one

[shut rampart]

Uh

I just spilled water on my pc

[desert gulch]

Was it on?

[shut rampart]

It was on top

[desert gulch]

Let it dry out fully before thinking abt turning it back on

[shut rampart]

It was turn on

[desert gulch]

Did it die?

[shut rampart]

No

[desert gulch]

Or did you turn it off?

[shut rampart]

I wipe it off

[desert gulch]

Before or after u turned it off?

[shut rampart]

It was on before the water spill

Just a little water on top of the GPU

[desert gulch]

Leave it off for a while

Until ur sure it's fully fully dried off

[shut rampart]

Yha it’s dry off

[desert gulch]

I'd still wait to be sure

[shut rampart]

Ok turning it off

Leave the glass off?

Can I just blow air can it out?

[potent portal]

No, that'll just spread the water around to other parts

[shut rampart]

Hmm ok

How long do you think I should wait

Ooo I see some water

[potent portal]

Wait until it dries completely, no water at all, and then wait another 12 hours after that

[shut rampart]

Going to tap it with a  cloth

Should I take the GPU out?

Or just leave it there

[dark pendant]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dtrhXb a video got me thinking

[potent portal]

Leave it out, it'll dry faster

[shut rampart]

So take it off

[potent portal]

Yes

[shut rampart]

Ok

[potent portal]

Was it the LTT video from earlier today about that APU?

[dark pendant]

yea

[potent portal]

No point getting one of those GPUs, the integrated one in the APU is going to be better

[shut rampart]

Water started to drip out

I’m scare

[potent portal]

Give it a couple days to dry out at a minimum. Do not try to power it before it's totally dry.

[shut rampart]

So 12hour?

[potent portal]

The fact that it didn't die immediately is a good sign

No, wait a couple of days for it to be completely dry inside, then give it another 12 hours after that for good measure.

[shut rampart]

There’s a little water

In there

It was dripping like 1-4 drips then it stop

[potent portal]

Personally I don't like gambling with the most expensive single piece of the computer, so I'd wait 5 days at least. 2-3 might be good though.

[shut rampart]

Water landed on the backplate

So I wipe it off

And I guess some of it landed inside

Tho when I touched my GPU backplate it was hot

[jagged ember]

Eeee

Wait a couple days please

[fossil cedar]

May i recommend a vetroo v5, gammaxx 400 or id cooling se 224xt instead of 212 also if you were using an igpu I'd recommend 3600cl16 ram instead

[jagged ember]

At least

You literally do not want to risk any water inside the gpu

If it goes, it goes

And then regret

[shut rampart]

But I got college zoom to go too

And I don’t have a backup computer lol

[fossil cedar]

Use your phone

[jagged ember]

Phone yes

[shut rampart]

I like multi tasking

[jagged ember]

I'd rather go to class on my phone

[shut rampart]

On my computer

[jagged ember]

Than have class cause my gpu to go kaput

Hey man, if you're willing to risk complete loss of gpu function

Go for it

[shut rampart]

Ok I will do it

[jagged ember]

Jesus christ you're insane

You realize how

Hard it is to get another?

[shut rampart]

Yes I realize how hard it’s to get another one

[jagged ember]

Yeah

[shut rampart]

But I have hope that this gpu isn’t dead

[jagged ember]

And you wanna risk losing yours to water damage?

It's not dead now probably

[shut rampart]

Since it was still on

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[jagged ember]

But it will be if you turn it on again

[shut rampart]

After the water spill

[fossil cedar]

It can still get in

[jagged ember]

With water still on it

I'm 85% certain this will kill the gpu

[fossil cedar]

Just take it out for even a day

[jagged ember]

It hasn't even been a day!

This is insanity

Literally your argument for turning it on is

[shut rampart]

I’m crazy like that

[fossil cedar]

Literally take it out right now put it back in tomorrow or Tuesday and you'll be grand

[jagged ember]

'i want to multitask'

And the consequence of your actions is likely an unusable computer

That will stay that way for god knows how long

And then you'll be forced to use your phone for the rest of the semester

[fossil cedar]

Icy what cpu do you have?

[shut rampart]

Why

[jagged ember]

Might have igpu

[fossil cedar]

If it's intel non f igpu

[jagged ember]

I see where you're going

[fossil cedar]

Yes

Big brains

[shut rampart]

?

[jagged ember]

What cpu?

[shut rampart]

Amd

[fossil cedar]

Integrated gpu

[jagged ember]

Which one lmao

[fossil cedar]

Dam

[jagged ember]

Might be a 3100

[potent portal]

Or 3200g

[jagged ember]

Or that

[shut rampart]

2600

[jagged ember]

Sadge

[fossil cedar]

3100 has igpu??

[jagged ember]

I think so

Unless I'm remembering wrong

[potent portal]

The ones that end in G have one

[fossil cedar]

I thought only g ones had

[jagged ember]

Brain needs fixing

Just please use your phone icy

[shut rampart]

Meh I’m going to use my pc

[jagged ember]

I literally want to swear at this man

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[fossil cedar]

Lol same

[jagged ember]

Okay, dude whatever

Do whatever you want

Don't come back crying if your gpu goes kaput

I'll only hit you with an 'i told you so'

[potent portal]

Yeah if it dies its completely your fault. The only way to fix that is with hardware modification like shunts to isolate the short.

[fossil cedar]

^

[jagged ember]

Shunts are janky

Fun, I guess

But janky

[fossil cedar]

They wont even be able to use system for class etc without having to pay 50$ for a gt 710 :/

[jagged ember]

Lol 50 bucks

I'd say 100

In this market

[fossil cedar]

There's some on b&h for 50, checked for some guy that wanted to check his system had good parts

[shut rampart]

Ok I’m turning it in

[obsidian wigeon]

Only G Ryzens and Athlons has igpu lel

[dark pendant]

okay

[shut rampart]

meh

it works

[fossil cedar]

Yes but water can still have some drops that you might not see and pood bye bye gpu

[shut rampart]

?

[fossil cedar]

Poof*

[shut rampart]

what ever

I think its fine

[obsidian wigeon]

You didn't make sure to dry it at all?

[shut rampart]

its dry

[obsidian wigeon]

Alright

[jagged ember]

tldr, no he didnt make sure to dry it all

just wiped water off the backplate

[earnest olive]

liquid cooled gpu

[jagged ember]

that's what they meant by liquid cooling, right?

[earnest olive]

well

a gpu that has shut off due to breaking runs very cool

0 degrees above ambient

[jagged ember]

0 power draw too

very power efficient

[earnest olive]

infinite efficiency

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh lmao

Wiped water from backplate

whelp some might have made its way to the pcb

[earnest olive]

if it works prob not

he got lucky

very big risk to take with how hard it is to get gpus now lol

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[shut rampart]

I’m back

I want to buy some RGB fans

[stoic island]

no, you want to buy nf-a12x25 or Nidec Gentle Typhoons >:D

[shut rampart]

Ok

How many should I get

[stoic island]

What case?

[shut rampart]

MasterBox TD500 Mesh Airflow

[stoic island]

Do you want to replace current fans or add on?

[shut rampart]

Replace

Should I replace?

[stoic island]

It's your choice

[shut rampart]

Yha replace

[stoic island]

I'd say optimal setup, either way, is 3 fans in the front with 1 in the back, that's all you need, more gets wacky

[shut rampart]

I would do 3 in the front 2 in the back

[stoic island]

what

[shut rampart]

So 5?

[stoic island]

there's only 1 fan slot on the back

[shut rampart]

Wait nvm

I didn’t saw that

I’m guessing 4 then

[stoic island]

That's what I'd do

more and airflow might get wack

controlled airflow is nice

[shut rampart]

I didn’t know fans cost $50

Bucks for it

[stoic island]

what

50$ per fan is a scam

god damn it fan prices are wack

Gentle typhoons are decently priced tho
https://www.amazon.com/SERVO-Nidec-GentleTyphoon-120mm-Case/dp/B017UX9DRA/

[shut rampart]

any other ones

[stoic island]

GT and a12x25 are best performing, Arctic P12s are the next in line

[shut rampart]

GT?

[lament fulcrum]

Arctic p12s are great. They were only 28$ for the 5 pack last year. Now 43$ but still good value

[stoic island]

gentle typhoon

ya

p12s best price to perf

[shut rampart]

Ok I will get the p12s

[honest thicket]

Need some opinions on my pre-built, is the b460m upgrade-able? https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali519/p/N82E16883360119?Item=N82E16883360119

[desert gulch]

Looks like it ye

[lyric thistle]

I can't believe they used a decent motherboard

how could they

[rich helm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x7WCQD lol this list tempts me

[ripe wedge]

why get a 710 when u can just use integrated

[rich helm]

Hackintosh doesn’t like intel igpu unless I read the guide wrong

[ripe wedge]

o

[rich helm]

But has full support for 710 for some reason

[desert gulch]

710 1GB IS HELLA CRINGE

[lyric thistle]

yeah homies don't let homies buy 1gb gt 710s

only 8gb gt 710s 😤

[jagged ember]

Shh they're not supposed to know what you're doing

[cold sorrel]

So, should I update the BIOS on my b550 board before I try booting with my 5600x?

[frank stirrup]

try booting without bios update first

if it boots well and good

otherwise use the bios flashback feature

[cold sorrel]

I'll still want to flash the BIOS eventually to deal with the USB problem I'm hearing rumblings about. I just worry about managing to brick the mobo.

[frank stirrup]

Not a real possibility unless you really mess up big time

as long as you download from the manufacturers website that is

[tight sorrel]

👆

[little osprey]

hi guys, i have 2 questions one concerning the compatibility of my pc build and 2 which case coolers i should pick.. these are my pc parts :
ROG Strix Z490-A Gaming, Intel Z490 Mainboard
I7 9700k
3060 ti
2x8GB corsair Vengeance 3600Mhz
Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 80+ Gold
H100i corsair AIO
Lian Li Pc-o11 dynamic mini
Corsair Force MP600 1TB

is that gonna work ??

[jagged ember]

Just don't lose power

Or shut down pc randomly while updating bios

[little osprey]

note to my quetion: i prefer RGB fans

[fossil cedar]

9700k will not fit on a z490

[lyric thistle]

lmao

[fossil cedar]

9700k is 3 years old as well should not buy

[little osprey]

why ?

[fossil cedar]

What's your budget and use for the pc?

[stoic island]

mp600 also won't work on z490 (with 10th gen)

[little osprey]

max. 2k

[fossil cedar]

Because it's 3 years old and will be same price/more than a newer better chip

[fossil cedar]

For gaming?

[stoic island]

I'd try to go for a 11400+b560 or 10600k+z490 kinda thing

[little osprey]

yea

[fossil cedar]

Do you plan on overclocking?

[little osprey]

yea

[stoic island]

pcpp list time

[fossil cedar]

And you in the us or somewhere else?

[little osprey]

germany

[fossil cedar]

Indeed lol

[stoic island]

2000 euros or 2000 usd budget?

[little osprey]

2k€

[stoic island]

alright

[little osprey]

2410,58$

but doesnt have to be that expensive...

but is atleast the rest besides the ssd and cpu ok/ good idea

[stoic island]

tis a start
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Vs9pvf

not too sure about 3080 pricing in Germany, 800 euros sounds about right

there's enough budget left to swap to 10700k if you want

[little osprey]

you cant get a 3080 in germany only chance is from us shops so 3060ti is only option 😦 or lower

but i already found 3060 ti

[stoic island]

ick

[little osprey]

but thank you !!!

[stoic island]

not much else to spend much money on then xD

:)

[little osprey]

or you buy a 3080 for 2k€ in germany lol

not gonna do that

[fossil cedar]

800 is msrp but they're just as inflated as us

[stoic island]

p sure msrp is ~720

but ye

[fossil cedar]

720£ probs

[little osprey]

is there noticable difference between 3200 and 3600 mhz ram/ is it worth ?

[stoic island]

depends on the platform and price

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix 3600 is 92€

[little osprey]

in germany its 720€ msrp

[fossil cedar]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/fDn8TW/crucial-ballistix-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4r

[stoic island]

For Intel, doesn't matter much, but if it's fairly cheap, it's okay to get faster ram

[fossil cedar]

For an extra 9€ imp it's worth

[stoic island]

9 euro is fair

[little osprey]

ok thanks a lot guys !

awould a 3060ti fot in a lian li o11 dynamic mini ?

[fossil cedar]

Also the 4000d is cheaper than the td500 by like 10€ but mr1111 perfers that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic island]

yep, td500 mesh has more fans than the 4000d

[fossil cedar]

Most likely

[little osprey]

ok nice

[fossil cedar]

But like 1 extra?

[stoic island]

Yep

[little osprey]

any rgb fan tipps ?

?

[stoic island]

td500 mesh

case has rgb hub

[fossil cedar]

At the price dif you could get a 4000d and a artic p12 but i guess that's void if they want rgb :/

[stoic island]

like, why xD

[fossil cedar]

I think it looks better and a p12 is gonna be a better fan

[stoic island]

it just performs worse

standardized fan testing @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[stoic island]

:P

and td500 mesh is just great stock out of box

so

[fossil cedar]

I guess

[stoic island]

4000d is just annoying

[fossil cedar]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/3ptbYg for 2k budget this what i would do, i would put a 3080 in there but they said they couldn't get so

But swap for td500

The 4000d that is

[stoic island]

meh, manual OC on AMD is wack, if they really want to OC

but if they have nowhere to spend the money, that'll do xD

[little osprey]

one question are amd stock coolers any good ?

[stoic island]

this gen doesn't have stock coolers (other than 5600x)

and the stock cooler on 5600x constantly pushes it to 90c+ from various reports

[little osprey]

no in general asking for a friend

ok

so no good ?

[stoic island]

This gen, no good, last gen, fine.

[fossil cedar]

For a 3600 or something yes, they're okay

[stoic island]

3600 3700x 3800x 3900x, stock is ok

[fossil cedar]

3900x really?

[stoic island]

ye, pretty sure it has prism, it works ish

[fossil cedar]

With no pbo I'm guessing

[stoic island]

ofc

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[stoic island]

I'm talking stock

[fossil cedar]

Fair

Handled my r5 3600 with pbo fine but sometimes under synthetic it could jump to 90c

[stoic island]

yea, it works, but not much more

[tight sorrel]

stop playing silly games, and get a lancool ii mesh

[stoic island]

wat

[stoic island]

just get a H500 tbh

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i forgot the said they wanted to oc so i went 5800x but if they wanna oc I'd go 10850k or something like 380€ ish ntb

[stoic island]

maybe, but ye

if they don't care too much about oc, 5800x fine

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i just think 2k budget should be getting 8c really

[stoic island]

meh

[tight sorrel]

🤣

got jokes

[fossil cedar]

A good few people will multi task n stuff and 8c helps with smoothness in games and frame times

[stoic island]

H500 is actually good tho

CM H500

[tight sorrel]

oh, thought you talking about the NZXT

[fossil cedar]

That's h510 you're thinking of

[stoic island]

there's a nzxt h500 too

but yea

I'm talking this boi

[little osprey]

one question how can i switch out the parts in your pc build for me ? @stoic island

[tight sorrel]

google sabotaged me

[stoic island]

click "edit this part list"

[little osprey]

oh... didnt see... oof ty

[fossil cedar]

Interesting

[covert vapor]

I prefer the Lancool II because quick access to stuff, which helps my tinkering. And I think it looks better

[stoic island]

eh

it is what it is

I'd just go straight to p500a for a case above td500 mesh

[foggy hazel]

i am always amused by the "i need all the quick access" string of logic

it has a certain tendency to follow along with a system that is caked in dust after 6months

[fossil cedar]

It's handy

[tight sorrel]

and has space for 2 fans at the bottom which helps GPU cooling. its literally the best

[stoic island]

I mean, I think they're talking about extra space for wire management or smth

[foggy hazel]

heck knows Mr1111 :)

[foggy hazel]

its overrated a LOT by people that wish they would tinker as much as they dream about

[little osprey]

what white motherboard could i use ?

[fossil cedar]

Fair but having a nice case for cable management and stuff is nice

[robust lake]

Which mb

Do you need

[fossil cedar]

Z490 asus prime probs

[tight sorrel]

nzxt n7

[stoic island]

Oh well, I don't personally value lancool ii mesh over td500 mesh, support wise or performance wise.

uh

[foggy hazel]

yes, but that is a different take than "i need quick access"

[fossil cedar]

No no no 🔥🔥🔥

[stoic island]

isn't the nzxt z490 board the one that liked to overheat?

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[stoic island]

I know they fixed it for b550 but eh

nzxt be nzxt

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's because it's asrock and not espc or something

[covert vapor]

It isn't overrated when I don't have to take down my entire system in my cramped gaming room whenever I start screwing around, which is generally every other time I start using it 🤷‍♂️

[tight sorrel]

or the Gigabyte D... something

[fossil cedar]

True true

[stoic island]

vision d? pretty sure that's b550

[little osprey]

Z490 asus prime does that motherbord also work ? @stoic island

[stoic island]

that will work

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[little osprey]

ok ty

[stoic island]

I mean, what part of it is from lancool ii mesh being good, and what part of it is just normal case behavior >:P

[foggy hazel]

and not starting a fight, but there is a massive difference between "i need quick access" and "sensible designed interior of a case" :)

[fossil cedar]

Very true

[foggy hazel]

the first of those is (imo) just silly (for the majority of consumers) and the second should be a base line :)

[fossil cedar]

A nice side panel hinge is nice too, noone likes an awkward hinge

[foggy hazel]

that sounds like a bad build, IF you need to tinker with it every time you use it

[covert vapor]

I tinker with it because I want to tinker. I like to tinker, so I do it. There isn't anything wrong with the build

Except the top radiator, that thing is annoying

[foggy hazel]

very true :)

[tight sorrel]

good case design: mesh everywhere, front fan/rad mount asjustability, space for 8 fans, loads of cable hiding panels, 9 drive mounts, inexpensive

[stoic island]

td500 mesh has most of em

:P

[tight sorrel]

not as much as the lancool

[fossil cedar]

8 fans why

[tight sorrel]

why not?

[stoic island]

lancool doesn't have 360mm top mount

[fossil cedar]

4 or 5 is plenty

[tight sorrel]

neither does the td500

[stoic island]

it does

td500 mesh has 360mm top mount

I made a bunch of people do it

[covert vapor]

That is the biggest downside to the Lancool II

[stoic island]

ye

[robust lake]

You dont realy need 360

[tight sorrel]

nope

[stoic island]

It just doesn't offer enough imo against td500 mesh

[robust lake]

280 is almost same preformance

[stoic island]

coolermaster website being dumb

@tight sorrel Also, td500 mesh, not the original td500

okay coolermaster website is just not working now ig

[foggy hazel]

aye, its having trouble resolving Mr1111

[covert vapor]

It is probably like how LIan Li says the top of the Lancool II can't mount a 280mm rad when it can, but it just has certain ram height tolerance issues

[stoic island]

I'm 90% sure Coolermaster says it can fit 360mm top mount

I think TD500 may not, but td500 mesh can for sure

I've made so many people do 360mm top mount in a td500 mesh smh

[tight sorrel]

apologies

[foggy hazel]

there you go :)

[stoic island]

nice

website finally works

here's bleach's build, I believe this is on the td500 mesh

[fossil cedar]

The poor 2nd card being choked

[stoic island]

meh, if it works, it works xD

[fossil cedar]

2 cards in a 750w ;-;

[tight sorrel]

did... did he just rest a fan on the GPU?

[stoic island]

@tight sorrel it's a common thing for cooling vram while mining tbh

esp since gigabyte vision kinda bad vram cooling

[tight sorrel]

no.. thats smart... especially since seeing how hot the VRAM gets on the back of 3090s

[covert vapor]

^

Didn't Linus just do a video on that exact topic?

[tight sorrel]

yup

[stoic island]

linus linus things

[fossil cedar]

It's hardly a 3090 and another gpu in a 750w system

[stoic island]

I think it's a 3070 and 3060 in there

might be 3080 and 3060

[fossil cedar]

3080 you'd want 750w alone tho no?

[tight sorrel]

2 8 pin... 3080 most likepy

[stoic island]

(keep in mind mining pulls less than gaming most of the time, esp with decent OCs)

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ik but surely they switch the top one to game on and stop mining on it?

[little osprey]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ would you say its fine like that ? note: 3060 is only 450€ not 1300€

[stoic island]

I mean, iirc bleach says he games on the iGPU, since he just does league

[fossil cedar]

You cant oc a non k intel cpu

[stoic island]

@little osprey Wrong link, grab this link

[fossil cedar]

It was reading some mix match of parts from before i did something lol

[little osprey]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dhnr8J

[stoic island]

hm...

@little osprey I'd just suggest you grab a white td500 mesh

[fossil cedar]

Galahad white not available in germany :/

Guess corsairs one is okay

Ballistix also no white rgb in germany :/

I'd try get a 3060 ti as well

Huge improvement over the 3060

[median grotto]

bruh yall talking 3060s i have a 1070

[fossil cedar]

Still a perfectly good 1080p card

[stoic island]

meh

[median grotto]

1440p

[stoic island]

I think they said they already got a 3060

[fossil cedar]

Well that's why youre complaining

[median grotto]

yeah i cant really run 4k

[fossil cedar]

Ohh :/ could sell it for like 800 if they could find a 3060 ti and basically get the upgrade for free

[lyric thistle]

then don't

[fossil cedar]

1070 ain't supposed to

[median grotto]

yeah thats why im complaining

[fossil cedar]

Play lower res then

[median grotto]

i used to have a 6870 and also a gt 1030 💀

i shouldnt complain tho bc the 1070 supports rtx at 30fps

[fossil cedar]

.... No it doesn't support rtx.....

[median grotto]

yes it does lol

[stoic island]

It kinda does

from dx12 rtx

but not the Nvidia proprietary rtx

[fossil cedar]

Ohhh

Interesting

[fossil cedar]

Didn't realise that was a thing

[median grotto]

ye its pointless tho except for on minecraft

bc it runs like crap

[little osprey]

sry i was in a vid. konference @stoic island what is a td500 mesh and why should i use it ?

[stoic island]

td500 mesh is a case

It comes with fans instead of o11 not coming with fans, it's cheaper, it's white, and it can fit 360mm radiators top mount

also comes with argb fans, with a build in controller for the case argb fans

it's just a nice case

[little osprey]

ok

but is the o11 dynamic a ok/good case in general ?

[stoic island]

for cooling? it's

very meh

[fossil cedar]

It's fine

[little osprey]

ok

[stoic island]

The price just makes it bad imo

150$, and it doesn't come with fans

like what

TD500 mesh is 100 usd/euros, 3 fans, and has 360mm top mount

:P

[little osprey]

because i want white sleeved cables do you have any advice, i heard cable mod cables are good but they are expensive af

[stoic island]

custom cables are weird

[little osprey]

but why ?

[fossil cedar]

The psu cables you have a pure black, if you're okay with a bit of contrast I'd just do that

[stoic island]

(not many real reputable sellers other than cablemod, and cablemod is expensive)

[fossil cedar]

Because they can have different pinouts and stuff

[stoic island]

asiahorse things are weird

and yea, PSU pinouts are also weird

[little osprey]

ok then i will just stick with the normal calbes, aslong as i dont f*** up the cable management it will be fine

[stoic island]

cable management most of the time involves "stuff everything in the back", and that does the job

[marble seal]

you could get strimer plus for gpu/mobo, and you barely see the cpu ones if done right. theyre white and rgb 🙂

[little osprey]

i mean if i use a aio with display why would i want to hide it ?

[wicked frigate]

Guys what happen to b and h

[little osprey]

one question, why do i need a 850 watt

[wicked frigate]

It said 3060 is in stock

[little osprey]

the 3060 should run with 650

[stoic island]

@little osprey not need, it's just really nice for the price

[wicked frigate]

But it says it’s unavailable

[little osprey]

ok ok

yea i noticed that

[stoic island]

like 120euro for a great 850w unit, instead of like 110 euro for a great 650w unit kinda thing

[wicked frigate]

I got an email but it’s not working

[little osprey]

what does the 80+ bronze, gold, platinum, etc mean?

[tight sorrel]

its an inodcaiton of how much power coming from the wall is being converted to power in your system

[stoic island]

It's efficiency rating, it doesn't tell you the full story though

[little osprey]

ok so it doesnt mean it could just explode on you ? xD

[stoic island]

80+ Bronze is like 90% efficient, Gold like 92%, plat like 93%, titanium like 94% kind of thing

No

For an overview of general quality, consult the tier list
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

Tier E PSUs are mostly confirmed blowing up or burning PSUs

[tight sorrel]

so for example, 90% means that to make 650w, you draw 700W from the wall..

or whetever the calculations is

[little osprey]

lol

or as gigabyte just blowing up 😂

[severe verge]

guys i need a gpu for around 600 dollars what model should i look for

[lyric thistle]

the 600 dollar one

[muted patio]

3060TI

3070

[severe verge]

is the 1080 ti a good model

[muted patio]

Not fo $600

[fossil cedar]

1080 ti would be okay for 400ish

[severe verge]

okay what about 980 ti

[muted patio]

Even worse

[severe verge]

okay

well all the ones you guys listed are over 1000 dollars on the market place

[muted patio]

So don't buy them there?

wait for a shuffle or best buy drop?

[severe verge]

ok is a 2060 ti good at all

and is it worth for $850

[robust lake]

2060ti

?

[muted patio]

There is no 2060TI

[severe verge]

i meant 2060 no ti

[muted patio]

Def not

[robust lake]

No

[muted patio]

MSRP $300 and not that good

[robust lake]

Worth 300 and not even that

[little osprey]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GYgmz7 @stoic island how long do you think it will work without changing anything ? and do you haev anything to point out note:i am going to go for 3060ti which is around 600€ atm in germany

[static ravine]

change ram

[stoic island]

Well, is there a reason why there's no PSU in the list?

[little osprey]

oh

[static ravine]

and add a psu

[stoic island]

Pretty sure they're fine with spending more for white things

so, it's usable

[robust lake]

Also 100euros for the case

[little osprey]

yes i like corsair and the rgb style and the general look of it

[static ravine]

I'd go for ballistix but i guess the white vengeance is okay

[stoic island]

ballistix not in stock afaik

so yea

[static ravine]

oh

[stoic island]

oh wait white rgb ballistix is in stock

didn't see it at first

@little osprey maybe this
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/dgZzK8/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bl2k8g32c16u4wl

[static ravine]

I'd go for lower profile

[stoic island]

..?

[static ravine]

so ballistix good

[stoic island]

ballistix is nice either way

[static ravine]

yea

[stoic island]

Corsair ram dies are dumb

[static ravine]

I'd opt for lower profile ram just for the reason that if for some reason you want to upgrade to a cooler that limits ram height you'd be fine

[severe verge]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-3060-oc-12gb-gddr6x-video-card/15309513 is this good at all for the price

[little osprey]

what do you mean with that/what does that mean ? sry i am german

[robust lake]

Its fine

[little osprey]

or to you mean corsair colorings are dumb

[celest sun]

Those Noctua Giant heatsinks are efficient, but a pain

[robust lake]

I do go for 3060ti

For the same price

[severe verge]

where can i find it

whats the difference between the 3060 and the 3060ti

[robust lake]

Newegg shuffle or bestbuy

[static ravine]

you can knock off a fan

[robust lake]

Around 20-30%

[severe verge]

okay

[static ravine]

3060 is a 20 - 30% less powerful card

[severe verge]

okay thx

[celest sun]

Ended up just returning and getting AIO Loop

[topaz void]

Hey anybody know about how long msi usb bios flash takes? In my infinite wisdom I didn't grab a monitor before starting the update.

[severe verge]

for some reason the gpu at best buy is cheaper

[tight sorrel]

couple of minutes

not long

ive done it on the B450 GP and X570 Tomahawk and it was not long at all

[severe verge]

so this is good this gpu

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gddr6-video-card/15166285

[fossil cedar]

A ram die is the ram chip used on the ram stick basically

[muted patio]

yeah

[severe verge]

okay and when it says coming soon do u think it will yake lng

[little osprey]

1,3k€!!!!

in germany

[fossil cedar]

Yeah everywhere pretty much

[little osprey]

what does "yake lng" mean ?

[tight sorrel]

take long

[little osprey]

ok

[snow wasp]

U can try getting it in online drops or in person

But I’m not sure what the situation is in Germany

Msrp is no where close to 1300 xD

[fossil cedar]

Through msrp out the window tbh

[snow wasp]

I got my 3070 for 699😂

Strix model btw

[severe verge]

what is the difference between https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/evga-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-ftw3-ultra-8gb-gddr6-video-card/15229237 and https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gddr6-video-card/15166285

[muted patio]

Price and who you get it from. FTW3 isn't worth the premium IMO unless you HAVE to have rgb

[snow wasp]

In this market, u get what u get and u don’t complain 😂

[severe verge]

ok

[little osprey]

in germany we have nothing like microcenter we haev shops where they sell 2080ti for 1,5k€ so 1810,99$ and that was the only thing i saw

[muted patio]

Well yeah, those are all discontinued since last July. Discontinued parts prices go through the roof

[fossil cedar]

Yeah still not msrp tho, 700 is like the new msrp for 3070s

[little osprey]

but why is corsair vengeance 3200 bad compared to Crucial Ballstic Rgb 3200 ?

[fossil cedar]

Caseking have done a few drops

[little osprey]

yes

oly online

[snow wasp]

Yea ik I wish I paid less but knowing that people are paying more than 1k for 3070... I’m fine with that price

[little osprey]

what did you pay ?

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix has better ram chips and cheaper

[snow wasp]

699+ ny tax = 761? Ish

[fossil cedar]

Most countries are like this tbh

[snow wasp]

Forgot exact amount

[little osprey]

is the corsair dominator better than vengeance ?

[robust lake]

Better rgb

[little osprey]

nah

dont think so lol xD

[fossil cedar]

Corsairs ram is just a bit meh tbh

[snow wasp]

They’re fine tbh...

[little osprey]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Fine but better options so meh

[robust lake]

I need to change my ram

Have cl18

[little osprey]

but why is Crucial ballistic RGB better ?

[robust lake]

[snow wasp]

I got my 32gb 3600 cl16 for 55😂

[muted patio]

Better timings

make faster

[snow wasp]

Vengeance pro

[fossil cedar]

Better chips and timing

[little osprey]

what does timing do/what does it mean?

[fossil cedar]

If 3600cl18 thats ntb

[snow wasp]

Amazon sent me 2 2x8 packs 😂

[fossil cedar]

Speed basically

[robust lake]

Yeah 3600

[snow wasp]

When I ordered one

[robust lake]

Its fine

[little osprey]

ok but they are both 3200 MHz

[stoic island]

Corsair is dumb and stuffs bargain bin dies in there

[robust lake]

But i will replace it in a few months probably

[fossil cedar]

My 3200 is oc'd to 3600cl18 too

[snow wasp]

If ur going amd 3600 yea but I’m not sure if I tel needs 3600

Intel*

[robust lake]

Maybe i can oc it to cl16

[desert gulch]

11th gen will like 3600

[fossil cedar]

It's nice on 11th gen but not needed on 10th

[snow wasp]

😯

[stoic island]

different chips on the ram = different capabilities and performance

[snow wasp]

Basically they’re build different 😂

[desert gulch]

Most are

Altho those chips usually come from one of a few manufacturers

[stoic island]

(Micron, one of the chip makers, own Crucial, so Crucial gets the nice Micron dies)

[snow wasp]

Micron or Samsung

[fossil cedar]

Micron vs samsung

[desert gulch]

I know sk hynix and Samsung are the big ones

[stoic island]

Micron Hynix and Samsung are the biggest ones

[desert gulch]

Ye

[stoic island]

theres another maker of ddr4 ram but I always forget, it's a small one

[desert gulch]

Whats team use?

[fossil cedar]

Anyway corsair will most likely be like a samsung c die or something

Depending on model

[desert gulch]

Might be b die

[fossil cedar]

There's like 2 b die versions but I've 2 c die kits

[snow wasp]

Idk from the Amazon listing ppl said my model of vengeance pro uses micron

[fossil cedar]

Samsung

[stoic island]

Team depends heavily

[desert gulch]

Is it just whatever they find in the garbage can?

[stoic island]

@snow wasp Corsair is wacky as heck because they choose to do different dies for like everything

Basically, other than dark pros

[desert gulch]

Weird

[stoic island]

Dark pros are b die

[desert gulch]

Not bad

[hallow glen]

whats a good under 70 dollars matx case

[snow wasp]

How are micron e dies?

[fossil cedar]

Nice

[muted patio]

Fantastic at everything

[snow wasp]

That what on my vengeance pro...

[fossil cedar]

Pretty sure corsiar only use samsung

[snow wasp]

Die Density / Count
8 Gb E-die (Z11B / 19 nm) / 1 die

this is from thaiphoon burner

[desert gulch]

Nah

[muted patio]

What it's say at the top right

[snow wasp]

of the app?

[muted patio]

Ya

Samsung makes an E die as well

Need to find the die manufacturer, not just die name

[muted patio]

There ya go

[snow wasp]

im new to windows so yea

had a hard time finding where this pic was

[jagged ember]

vintage my friend ignored my build list

:(

[muted patio]

Corsair just uses whatever they can get their hands on

[snow wasp]

ig lol

[jagged ember]

went for a 5600x instead

[muted patio]

They really do, samsung, hynix, Micron, they use it all

[fossil cedar]

Taiphoon said my c dies where b dies so it just guesses tbh

[snow wasp]

how did u know it was c die then?

[fossil cedar]

Falcie sent me that list

Look at the num on your ram

Mine was bottom right

[snow wasp]

Ummmmm

Nvm😂

[fossil cedar]

Just take 1 out and out it back in

[snow wasp]

The radiator is blocking it

Nvm

I can read it

It ver 3.31

I just had to push the cables from the pump away

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PW4QZP2/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_10?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

that's the product page

the price got raised from 115 to current

i paid like 55 cuz i had points from a credit card lol

[fossil cedar]

Rev b i think that's okay

Or rev d idk why is there 2 3.31s lol

[cold gate]

hola

hi

[honest thicket]

Opinions?

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali519/p/N82E16883360119?Item=N82E16883360119

[fossil cedar]

Depends on price

[honest thicket]

$1,399

[fossil cedar]

Ehh i mean it's ntb for that price if you need a whole new system

[muted patio]

B460 limits ram speeds so ehhhhh

[obsidian wigeon]

It's a prebuilt, so it's pretty okay

[fossil cedar]

On i7/i9 it limits to 2933 so basically 3000

[obsidian wigeon]

But that i7 is handicapped

By the ram ofc

[muted patio]

Well aware lol

[honest thicket]

Should I upgrade mobo and cpu or just mobo?

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't suggest spending anymore

It's fine, just not optimal

[fossil cedar]

Ok lol just yeah b460 aint great but it would only handycap the ram if a 3200 or 3600 set was put ib

[muted patio]

Also can't support 11th gen

[honest thicket]

Im really appreciating this input, thank you all

[fossil cedar]

Imo there's never a point upgrading mobo without upgrading cpu and it's a good cpu i wouldn't bother buying a different mobo tho

[jagged ember]

Ouch 3060

But at the price of out of stock I can't determine if it's good value or not

[obsidian wigeon]

when gpus hits shortages

[fossil cedar]

Ehh 3060 ti builds and 3070s are going for 1600 now

[obsidian wigeon]

kek

[fossil cedar]

They said 1300 so ntb wouldn't pay much more tbf they're basically only paying for the cpu and gpu at that rate (assuming it was a scalped or inflated price of 3060 ofc)

[still roost]

bdelrio#2604 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[jagged ember]

Yeah, that's a not gpu centric pricing

Fair enough

[honest thicket]

Any opinions on upgrading the cpu fan? The rgb wont turn off

[fossil cedar]

I'd slap a gammaxx 400, vetroo v5 or id cooling se 224xt

On that bad boi

[honest thicket]

ill look into it. thank you

[obsidian wigeon]

It's just 10700f, no oc tho, but cooler upgrade is nice ofc

that thing is like easy 200w+

[fossil cedar]

They're all 23-35$ coolers so not too pricey

[obsidian wigeon]

yeh

[fossil cedar]

And will kick that dinky coolers ass

[rich helm]

200w 10700 really?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[rich helm]

I would think It would only pull like 150

[jagged ember]

For sure any of those coolers will wipe the floor with stock cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

Sources says 200+

Peak that is

[earnest olive]

i7-10700 PL2 is 224W under intel official stock spec

[obsidian wigeon]

Worse bin than 10700K

Sooo, it takes more

[earnest olive]

28 second tau

[obsidian wigeon]

It's amusing

[earnest olive]

it's completely reasonable

[obsidian wigeon]

But ye

Look at that 5800x consumption tho

[earnest olive]

ryzen 7 5800x should be more efficient than ryzen 7 5800 OEM at the same clock speed

[obsidian wigeon]

hella low

5600x even less

[earnest olive]

lower but probably harder to cool than the 10700k

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

5800x is hot

[earnest olive]

I remember when zen 3 was new everyone on reddit was freaking out "is 90C normal for my 5600x/5800x"

lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[earnest olive]

yes, yes it is

[obsidian wigeon]

almost all mobos has pbo on too

so it pushes to the max

[earnest olive]

watching my 5600x hit 90c on 360mm aio and 8 fans

[obsidian wigeon]

I wouldn't freak out unless it throttles

[earnest olive]

boutta custom loop my 5600x with 2 480mm rads in full push/pull config with 8 gentle typhoons

it's still gonna hit 90c

replace my gpu with passive gt 710 so no heat is being fed into 5600x

gotta SLI 3 pumps for good measure

[celest sun]

jesus christ 90c on your CPU?

Are you using a Micro ITX case?

[earnest olive]

td500 mesh airflow

8 fans and 360mm rad

[little osprey]

my 10700k not going above 65c under load with 240mm aio 🤔

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y4PDvf I updated my list. any changes I should make? (Case will be run no front panel)

[earnest olive]

then you aren't loading it enough

[little osprey]

without oc

[stoic island]

Bro

@earnest olive 1.5v man?

[earnest olive]

i made 10700K thermal throttle on all cores with 360mm aio, 5 fans, and no gpu

[earnest olive]

nope just pbo undervolted CO -15 all core

[stoic island]

But anyways I had my 3800x hit 105c with an all core OC under a d15 so

[earnest olive]

was at like 1.2V SVI2 TFN

[stoic island]

It also hit 93c with 1.3vset 4ghz

[earnest olive]

zen 3 runs a lot hotter than zen 2

[stoic island]

So

Yea

[little osprey]

overclock

[earnest olive]

my 3600X hit 70C at the same load as my 5600X hitting 90C with basically the same power draw

[stoic island]

(8 core zen 2 ~ 6 core zen 3 yaknow)

[earnest olive]

and 3600X was at higher voltage

1.25V vs. 1.2V

5600X spikes as high as 50C idle with computerbase.de custom power plan V4

3.4ghz 0.975v

3600X was chilling at 25-35

[stoic island]

Damn

[earnest olive]

zen 3 has really aggressive boost

it's pretty cool seeing 5600x boost to 4.9ghz

[little osprey]

intel fanboy here lol 😂