building-and-recc-chat

[robust lake]

oh i was looking at the m atx one

this one is 110

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119385?Item=N82E16813119385&Description=b560&cm_re=b560-_-13-119-385-_-Product&quicklink=true

[odd abyss]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jccDVc

thus my build

[little osprey]

uhh

[odd abyss]

what

[little osprey]

[rich helm]

Yeah asrock is kinda wack, I’d go with asus just cause it’s bios isn’t cursed

[robust lake]

also cheaper

you picked a 230$ one

[rich helm]

Plz change that ram

It hurts

[odd abyss]

bru

THIS IS MY PC

[robust lake]

your first list was good

[odd abyss]

smh

[rich helm]

Oh lol

[odd abyss]

dude

thx for the negative energy lmfao

[robust lake]

oh

lol

i thought it was momo

[little osprey]

The motherboard is 90 usd more than the cpu
the ram is ugly and a micron rev e ballistix kit is 10 usd cheaper
the ssd is overpriced and doubt youd be using that performance
P12 are better value fans than the P
Segotep GP iirc had no OTP and poorly set OPP

[odd abyss]

bro

this kid

[little osprey]

as well as 11400 being a much better value cpu

[odd abyss]

this

listen to me

[little osprey]

Vetroo V5 being cheaper as well as featuring rgb

[odd abyss]

this is my pc

[rich helm]

I have some too it’s from experience

[odd abyss]

that build

IS MY PC

smh

[little osprey]

no otp ?

[odd abyss]

i give up

[rich helm]

No what

[little osprey]

on the segotep unit. thats a gp600 right ?

[rich helm]

650w gold

[little osprey]

one of my buddies did testing on the GP600 and found no OTP and overset OPP (segotep claims to have these features tho)

[rich helm]

Gp600 is non modular and 650w is fully modular

[little osprey]

not sure what the platform on the 650W is like

[rich helm]

I have no gpu in this thing so I’ll be fine either way lol

Only cpu

[fossil cedar]

Change the ram for ballistix 3600cl16 at that price

[little osprey]

lol

[rich helm]

It’s his build he already has made

Built

[odd abyss]

will that fit

[little osprey]

huh

if its ddr4 it will fit

lol

[odd abyss]

oh ok

[fossil cedar]

Same price

[fossil cedar]

Ohh

[fossil cedar]

If you've already bought stuff then dont bother

[odd abyss]

i’m just planning on upgrades. thinking SUPER far into the future. also JUST got this pc and it’s my first ever. i just live thinking of upgrades

lol

pc’s are 10x better than console

i’m so glad i got one

[fossil cedar]

90 usd for 3200 is too much, that's the price you can get 3600 that's why he was saying to change

[odd abyss]

i didn’t buy it how it is rn

i got all those for $500 or sum

that’s why i was so excited to get that build

and then got a 1660

for a cheap price but don’t like to say lol

[fossil cedar]

Don't bother thinking about upgrades for a while tbh, i saw in general that you said you had a 1660, keep that who knows what 4000 series pricing is gonna be like anyway

[odd abyss]

aight

but yeah, i got all my parts for $500 in yoga

total*

is that good for the build i have rn

and it’ll also last a while

[fossil cedar]

Nice

All that for 500 is good yeah

[odd abyss]

aight

[eager flower]

tt

[muted patio]

Segotep has all the protections, don't worry

[livid canopy]

anyone know if 10100f can be pushed to 4.4+AC on a b560?

[muted patio]

Cant oc on b560

[fossil cedar]

or a non k cpu

[frank stirrup]

Some mobos allow you to adjust voltages and stuff to get some OC

[fossil cedar]

ahh

[livid canopy]

you can go to power or level 2

which is turbo mode essentially and push it to 160-180w

but as far as i know 11400f idk abot 10th gen

[fossil cedar]

ohh unlock the stock voltages or whatever gotcah

[livid canopy]

its like the cost of a 212 and a 11400f or 10100f with that enabled vs a larger air cooler or big rad aio for a 5ghz 10600k

the price variation can go towards a faster gpu

[fossil cedar]

11400f all the way

also 212 bad

if you were gonna get a cooler get a gammaxx 400, vetroo v5 or id cooling se 224xt

[livid canopy]

plus the lack of need for LLC tinkering or a titanium/plat psu for 12v performance since i wont be max oc on a k cpu

the ID looks nice

i tend to forget the upwards of 200$ ram kits for 5ghz ocs too...

just cut that all and put it towards a steup up in gpu

[fossil cedar]

yup 10100 is hardly worth looking at anyway because its so close to the 10400 anyway

[livid canopy]

true and the "it wont hurt" to have a few more corse, when it hurts with 4c if i drop to a lower res than 4k or try to run high refresh etc

the 11400 will be better for that

as the system ages

[supple gale]

I need uh.. help

Got a computer from a friend and it won't post. It was posting, then after I plugged in the front usb header it stopped

Now it no longer posts at all, removed the video card, cleared the cmos, pretty much all help desk solutions are covered

[fossil cedar]

make sure the psu is switched on?

just incase

[supple gale]

Lol yes

All fans spin and the mobo light is on and it doesn't turn off

It just doesn't show video

No beeps, nothing indicating something is wrong

[fossil cedar]

cable connected to the gpu and not mobo?

[livid canopy]

does it perhaps have an igpu-video out

[supple gale]

Yeah tried removing it and using the on board video without it

On board it has an hdmi and vga

On board hdmi also shows nothing

Side note it was posting fine before the usb header thing

I was getting in the bios fine before plugging it in

Now I get no video

Even after removing the header

[livid canopy]

checked the mb 4/8 pin and 24 pin etc

[stoic island]

what parts

[fossil cedar]

try reseat ram

[supple gale]

Everything is plugged correctly yeah

[livid canopy]

1 stick only and reset cmos

[supple gale]

I can do this one sec, only tried cmos reset with 2 sticks

[livid canopy]

check if they have a chanel 1/a etc for priority

[stoic island]

what cpu, what board, what sticks, what case, what gpu?

[supple gale]

1050 ti, i5 5700, mobo is a asus h110m-e

[stoic island]

5700..?

[supple gale]

Dunno haven't taken off the cpu cooler that's just what I was told

[livid canopy]

idk if it exists mayne

4700 perhaps?

[desert gulch]

O you bought it used?

[stoic island]

there's 5700hq and such laptop chips but don't think a desktop chip exists

[livid canopy]

its like a x99 or somethin

[supple gale]

It was their old prebuilt they didn't need anymore because they got a new one

[livid canopy]

for 5xxx

[desert gulch]

There's a ryzen 5700 lol

But intel bboard

[stoic island]

was talking about this

[livid canopy]

at least the board inst a prebuilt oem

[stoic island]

but anyways

[desert gulch]

Ye

[stoic island]

Going by ark, it has to be at least 5th or 6th gen

@supple gale Maybe it's an i5 7500?

[supple gale]

that could be it

[livid canopy]

the gpu is pretty decent too

[stoic island]

makes a bit more sense

[supple gale]

still removing the cmos with 1 stick, damn battery is under the gpu

[livid canopy]

im guessing 6500 i5

[supple gale]

i'd be able to confirm if i could get in the bios lol

[livid canopy]

lol

luckily you can use other ram to try to post ddr3 or 4 i wonder

[stoic island]

It's ddr4

[supple gale]

^

[stoic island]

doesn't seem to have a preferred slot

[supple gale]

came with 2 4gb sticks

man this thing is like, half old and half new it's so weird

[livid canopy]

bc "upgrades" lul

[supple gale]

nah the guy it came from is physically disabled and knows literally nothing about computers

he wouldn't be able to upgrade the ram if he tried

[stoic island]

wacky

[livid canopy]

perhaps he took it in somwhere

[supple gale]

like he had one of those special controllers because of how little he can physically move

[livid canopy]

or a local kid suped itup

[stoic island]

@supple gale also, what usb connector did you plug into which header?

doesn't matter too much but

[supple gale]

3.0 front headers

with that stupid ass 3.0 universal thing

[livid canopy]

does the chassis have 3.0 headers

[supple gale]

yeah

[livid canopy]

idk if that even matters

[stoic island]

no debug led but eh

[supple gale]

well, 1 now because the other looks like it was chewed up

[stoic island]

tried jumping it via the front io headers?

[supple gale]

cmos cleared, 1 stick in about to try to boot

honestly i don't even care if they're plugged in

[stoic island]

..?

[supple gale]

the cable was just hanging so i said screw it and plugged it in and then the whole thing stopped working

[stoic island]

oh well

Is it no display/no boot or just no response from turning on?

[supple gale]

yeah

and the cmos clear with 1 stick of ram didn't work

[stoic island]

which one

[supple gale]

no display sorry

[stoic island]

So it turns on, but no display?

[supple gale]

all fans spin and it just stays on after boot

[stoic island]

whee

[supple gale]

yeah

lol

[stoic island]

You got any extra thermal paste?

Might be worth re-seating CPU and just checking what CPU it is

[supple gale]

well it was posting before i tried pluggin in the header so i don't think it'd be that(regardless i don't have any laying around atm)

who builds a motherboard with led/beep noises for diagnosing

[stoic island]

might as well re-seat GPU then, and reseat cmos again, this time for longer, making sure it's unplugged from wall and such

[supple gale]

i didn't even replug in the gpu yet

[stoic island]

uh

[supple gale]

trying to boot off the on board hdmi

[stoic island]

do you even know if whatever chip is in there even has an iGPU?

[supple gale]

it should

i can try the gpu again anyway

but im not holding my breath lol

apparently it was working 100% fine before it left the guys house

all they did was remove his c drive with his data on it

[stoic island]

Do you have a drive currently installed?

[supple gale]

and it did post when i first got it, just not after attempting to attach the usb

uhhh

yeah there's an ssd in there

assuming it was the backup drive or something

[stoic island]

oh well, unplug from wall, reset cmos for 5 minutes just in case, and after the battery has been out for 5 minutes, try installing GPU and boot again

[supple gale]

alrighty

here goes

[half narwhal]

Best cpu to get in a 1200-1300 budget? Can go a little more

[supple gale]

nothing

[lyric thistle]

ps5

[desert gulch]

Like a 12-1300 dollar build or 12-1300 dollar cpu?

Also depends on what you wanna do with it... Gaming, rendering, editing...

[half narwhal]

gaming content creation and streaminh

whole pc budget

[rich helm]

Prob 11400 then

[desert gulch]

Uhh I'd say 10700 would be easily doable

[rich helm]

That too

[desert gulch]

If you live near microcenter 10850 may be on sale

[rich helm]

Was just about to say that lol

[desert gulch]

Ye lol

I wouldn't go 11400 tho

For all of that

If just gaming then ye but for like all that productivity I'd go for more cores

[rich helm]

Ehh depends you could just use nvenc

For streaming and video editing

[desert gulch]

But I mean for editing and all that

I'd go for 10700 at least

Especially with that budget

263.99 for a 10700f rn

[supple gale]

it posted...

[desert gulch]

Dang how'd you get it to post?

[supple gale]

i swapped the sticks of ram.

[desert gulch]

Nice

[supple gale]

i hate computers.

[desert gulch]

Until they work

[supple gale]

...

fair

[desert gulch]

Then u love them

[supple gale]

lol

also the mystery cpu was a 6500

[desert gulch]

Dang even better

Newer generation lol

[supple gale]

and i think i found the issue with the computer

[desert gulch]

Is it ram?

[supple gale]

yeah

one of them has crud on the contacts

[desert gulch]

Oof

[idle crystal]

do they make processers for a 11 year old laptop? btw its a hp ProBook6450b

[hearty pasture]

Is the i5 11400 more worth it than the i5 10600k? I'm working on a budget pc build and I can't decide which one I want

[fossil cedar]

No just buy a new laptops

[fossil cedar]

The 11400 should be cheaper than the 10600k well depending on region but you'll need a z board to actually overclock the 10600k

[desert gulch]

The big difference is just that you can overclock 10600k, where you can't overclock a 11400... Depends if you want to overclock and pricing at time of purchase

[wooden spindle]

i7 10700k and z490e asus with rtx 3070 good or not

[fossil cedar]

yes but 10700k and z490 if youre buying no isnt great but if you already have yes

[wooden spindle]

do u mean not good because theres a new gen ?

[desert gulch]

I mean just value wise it's not the best

[fossil cedar]

i mean its not good value to buy atm

[desert gulch]

Not just because of next gen

[wooden spindle]

if u have the money buy it

[fossil cedar]

no

if you have the money get a 5800x

[wooden spindle]

thats new

[fossil cedar]

is it just for gaming?

[wooden spindle]

anime and youtube 90%

gaming minecraft

[desert gulch]

Bruh

[fossil cedar]

then why do you need a 3070

[desert gulch]

Then why

[wooden spindle]

it has a nice name

[fossil cedar]

and i5 11400 and a b560 motherboard with onbaord graphics

[fossil cedar]

bruh

[lyric thistle]

get a gt 1030

[desert gulch]

I'd go 11500 is no dgpu

For long term

[wooden spindle]

dude minecraft on a 3070 is better

[fossil cedar]

well yeah but its minecraft and watching bids

[fossil cedar]

get a 3060 instead tbh

[wooden spindle]

already have the 3070

[desert gulch]

I mean 11500 will run mc fine if no shaders and stuff

[fossil cedar]

well then i guess thats okay

[wooden spindle]

tbh

i rarely use my pc

[fossil cedar]

what have you already purchased

[wooden spindle]

and when i use it i turn on cocomelon or baby shark for my little brother

last time i played mine was 4 weeks ago

[desert gulch]

Could always sell 3079

For big profit

[wooden spindle]

but its cool to have a 3070 for baby shark

[wooden spindle]

waste of time

[desert gulch]

I mean like 50 bucks over msrp local selling would make someone's day

Like craigslist or sumthin

[wooden spindle]

im in saudi arabia dont have craiglist

[desert gulch]

O

[fossil cedar]

are you just asking if you have a good pc or if you should get a 10700k

becuase if youre asking if its good yes

[wooden spindle]

yeah just asking

[fossil cedar]

waste of moneys

[fossil cedar]

ebay fb marketplace?

[wooden spindle]

lmao my pc is my little brothers now

[fossil cedar]

fair

[wooden spindle]

i have it but its so hard to sell and buy from ebay saudi

[desert gulch]

lol my dad uses his pc for like 95% zoom and stuff, it has a 2080ti in it i got used for hella good price xD

[fossil cedar]

nice

[wooden spindle]

damn zoom 2080 ti

[fossil cedar]

i just said because they said waste of time lol

[desert gulch]

ye

other %5 of what he does is flight sim

[fossil cedar]

literally same perf as a 2080 ti for baby shark ulol

[desert gulch]

so its sorta a waste

[wooden spindle]

my bro and ur dad should be friends

[desert gulch]

cringe

[wooden spindle]

😐

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pqFxvf

Thoughts?

Going to sell it

[wooden spindle]

very good

prob go 750 watts gold

[uncut pelican]

My main build runs a 650w fine without oc but might not be a bad idea

[wooden spindle]

thats why i said prob

[desert gulch]

looks fine

but ye id prolly step up psu a bit if it was my personal rig

id go 700 prolly

but itll run fine on that one most likely

[fossil cedar]

ballistix ram is 10$ cheaper and for a 3070 needs 650w min

[desert gulch]

bruhhhhh

legit read what he said

"Going to sell it"

meaning he already has those parts

[fossil cedar]

ohh didnt see

[desert gulch]

prices have changed on rip 5

[fossil cedar]

fair fair

think im going blind lol

[uncut pelican]

Try to make enough profit to keep doing this again and again

[desert gulch]

and i bet that build will run fine but in future id def step up wattage

id go for a 700w tbh

[uncut pelican]

Yup

[desert gulch]

segotep makes one

[uncut pelican]

Aight

I wanna build but i need to buy gpu first

Which im having a problem with

[desert gulch]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Segotep-700W-Power-Supply-GP-Series-80-Plus-Gold-Certified-PSU-Gaming-Modular-ATX-Power-Supply-with-Silent-120mm-Fan/690228751?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101004170&&adid=22222222227387099832&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=478664849479&wl4=pla-1013739269011&wl5=9032850&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=136045441&wl11=online&wl12=690228751&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjw-LOEBhDCARIsABrC0TlKHgWVOPgWLxogew8SBE_z8vZAZsuAJv6pX8Gifmwi6PuvzMWcb8kaArSLEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

heres one

long link but whatever

[stoic island]

cut

it

down

https://www.walmart.com/ip/690228751

look at that

[uncut pelican]

:O

[stoic island]

nice and short

[uncut pelican]

Impressive

[desert gulch]

i love long links

[hearty pasture]

Yes, I do not plan on getting a z board but I can get the 10600k for much cheaper than msrp and it has a very good base clock at 4.1, much better than that of the 11400 at 2.9, but I can get the 11400 for 30 dollars cheaper which is where my predicament comes in, I am leaning owards the 10600k though.

[fossil cedar]

What's the price diff?

[desert gulch]

id say 11400 is the way to go tbh

[desert gulch]

he legit said it lol

"but I can get the 11400 for 30 dollars cheaper"

[fossil cedar]

Ohh i just saw a lot cheaper

Ehhh I'd still go 11400 if not overclocking tbh

[desert gulch]

ye

[mental steeple]

poop

[stray gale]

is it smart to mix match ram if they have different specs

have 2 sticks rn and dont want to put the 2 new different sticks in

[muted patio]

It will all run at the slowest speed and timings of whatever is installed

SHOULD boot but sometimes won't

[still roost]

BeansAndKiwis#4285 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stray gale]

whoops

[muted patio]

Correct

Installing faster ram with slower ram will do nothing for speed

only amount

[stray gale]

alright yeah im not in any dire shortage of it

[fossil cedar]

Wouldn't recommend but i have done but it was same brand same die only thing that was different was 1 stick was 3000 and one was 3200

[stray gale]

yeah i dont think the ones id be putting in are any good whatsoever lol

[jade forge]

For my friends build what's the lesser of two evils antec 430 watt or diablotek 450 watt free is free I know bad idea he's broke and that's all I have in donation bin

[blazing aurora]

was sara banned too?

[rich helm]

A couple weeks ago

[blazing aurora]

ah

that's rough, she seemed cool

[fossil cedar]

Well can they really not pay 50 for a segotep 600w or something?

Tbh 430w would be okay if it's just an igpu system, I've never hsystems diablotek

[muted patio]

Antec over the Diablotek

[lyric thistle]

evga br 450

[vagrant olive]

diablotek bombsPSUs > everything

[lyric thistle]

diablotek more like diablowtek

[vagrant olive]

im so confused

"non modular cable design"

the fully modular cable design allows use of-

[lyric thistle]

mm yes

perfect

[jade forge]

According to pc part picker everything runs fine on 350 watt z97 mobo, it 4790k and gtx 460 so should be fine power requirement wise

[muted patio]

GTX460?

They're not gonna try and game on that are they?

It only has 1 GB VRAM......

[blazing aurora]

god i hope not

sounds painful

[muted patio]

It will be

Very painful

[blazing aurora]

might as well play on integrated graphics

[muted patio]

Would actually be better

[blazing aurora]

yep

not optimal, but better

[rich helm]

Not if you have like intel 2th gen or something right

[blazing aurora]

2th?

[muted patio]

it's a 4790k

SHould be able to have at least 2 GB VRAM in BIOS

so things are playable

[rich helm]

4790k is what I used for like 5 years

My siblings still use it

Can run Minecraft and csgo if you don’t mind crazy frame drops

[fossil cedar]

That's very old jeez, but pc part picker doesnt account for boost clocks btw just tdp

[jade forge]

@blazing aurora I gamed on this 460 for a year when I get my hands on new he gets old free or $20 because that's all people here said it's worth I just played la noir and he will just play gta v and maybe mine craft

[earnest olive]

gtx 460 gets pooped on by passively cooled gt 1030 meant for office pc

it's a 150w web browsing gpu

not sure how it stacks up against the i7-4790k igpu

[odd cosmos]

Building a pc for a friend and after plugging in case fans, they turn on for like 1 second and turn straight off

And can’t seem to find the pins to the cpu for some reason

[earnest olive]

does the system boot

[odd cosmos]

CPU isn’t plugged in lol

[muted patio]

well

[odd cosmos]

can’t find the pins for it

[earnest olive]

uhh

why are you trying to turn on a pc with no cpu

[muted patio]

Normally top right of MB or near CPU socket

[odd cosmos]

It’s a semi mod psu

[muted patio]

CPU power isn't plugged in?

[odd cosmos]

Yea I found where it goes but can’t find the wire on the psu

[earnest olive]

no like

cpu power

[muted patio]

We talking CPU, CPU fan or CPU power?

[odd cosmos]

Power

8 pin

[earnest olive]

semi modular psus basically always have cpu power cable preinstalled

[odd cosmos]

Right

[earnest olive]

what psu is this

[muted patio]

yeah it's with the 24 pin ATX connector hard wired

It's not solid 8 pin though

It's 4+4

[odd cosmos]

Sea sonic 650w

[muted patio]

There's no 4+4 cable?

[earnest olive]

please don't say s12iii

is that one even semi mod

[odd cosmos]

Oh 4+4 doesn’t fit tho

[earnest olive]

prob not

flip it around

it only fits in one way

[muted patio]

Ye

[odd cosmos]

WAIT

[earnest olive]

lol

[lunar reef]

👽

[earnest olive]

there's a clip that prevents you from plugging it in the wrong way

[odd cosmos]

alr alr

i think i found it

but how does the cpu power effect the case fans?

[earnest olive]

pc doesn't boot without cpu

period

full stop

[odd cosmos]

also, where should the cpu fan cable be connected to?

but it's just the fans turning on right

[earnest olive]

...no

system detects no cpu

[odd cosmos]

oh welp mbmb

[earnest olive]

system turns off

it's like asking why your baby won't drool on itself after you remove its brain

[odd cosmos]

LOL

[earnest olive]

cpu is literally its brain

[odd cosmos]

alr alr mbmb

where should the cpu power be plugged into?

[earnest olive]

there's only one place it will fit

read the manual

[odd cosmos]

alr

[earnest olive]

almost always top left of the board

but these are questions the manual can answer

[odd cosmos]

k

im stupid

i found it

[leaden shell]

Should I place my NZXT Z73 radiator hoses at the bottom of the front panel or top of the front panel in the Lian Li Lancool 2?

[muted patio]

Bottom if possible

[leaden shell]

And also, remove this black plate here, put my radiator behind the bracket and put the fans infront the bracket where my current fans are? Or should I mount the fans onto the radiator and put both behind?

[muted patio]

If they wont reach top is fine.

[leaden shell]

Okay thanks!

[muted patio]

Fans in front is fine

As long as they push through the rad

And dont pull through

[leaden shell]

So sandwhich the brackets? I heard someone say closer to radiator the better but then it'll look awkward with everything being on the back side of the bracket.

[leaden shell]

Oh yeah for sure 😂

[muted patio]

Sandwich is fine

[leaden shell]

Thanks!

[muted patio]

YW

[leaden shell]

About to upgrade my 3600 to the 5600x and putting on the NZXT Z73 one time

And was running for 30 minutes

How long do I have to unplug everything lay the case down etc before the thermal paste cools again? I really don't want to pull it out of the socket.

[muted patio]

You want thebpaste hot so the quicker the better. Twist cooler off before pulling. And above allbelse update your bios before you install the new cpu!!!

[leaden shell]

Oh yeah I updated it last week 😂 the funny-not so funny thing is that the power went out a couple hours after.

[muted patio]

Whoa

Close call lol

[odd cosmos]

ok sooo the pc has a vga and boot error

how do i fix that

[muted patio]

VGA = graphics card

Power it

[odd cosmos]

i have an igpu

[muted patio]

Well, that's an issue then.........

[odd cosmos]

uhh

[muted patio]

brand new build? What cpu

[odd cosmos]

i5 11500

i didnt brake it

i dont think

im positive

[muted patio]

VGA means no GPU detected and Boot means no boot device detected. What motherboard is this

[odd cosmos]

asus tuf b560m

[muted patio]

You're SURE both 4 pin power plugs for CPU are fully seated? You've got a monitor plugged into the HDMI or DP port?

[odd cosmos]

yess wait lemme c the cpu

ok so the vga error is gone

but

the boot error still there

however the monitor is powered on\

[muted patio]

BIOS screen?

[odd cosmos]

no

[muted patio]

Ah, what's in it for a drive?

[odd cosmos]

it shows the system specs but we can't do anything do it

[muted patio]

uh

read the very bottom of the screen

Usually F1 to start

[odd cosmos]

um nothing rn

[muted patio]

It has no drive in it at all???

XD

Yeah, that ain't gonna work

[odd cosmos]

wait drive as in ssd?

[muted patio]

yes

[odd cosmos]

it has a 1TD nvme ssd

[muted patio]

what slot

[odd cosmos]

in the m.2 one?

hold up lets do the old restart

[muted patio]

There's 2 M.2 drives

[odd cosmos]

and see if it works

[muted patio]

2 drive slots

[odd cosmos]

yea its in the top one near the cpu

[muted patio]

What drive is it

[odd cosmos]

should be the right one

m.2 nvme 1TD ssd

[muted patio]

What brand and model

[odd cosmos]

western digital SN550

[muted patio]

Should be fine in the first slot then

[odd cosmos]

yea WAIT

the screen changed

lemme read it now

it says new cpu installe

[muted patio]

UH huh, that's normal

[odd cosmos]

no keyboard detected

[muted patio]

ah

[odd cosmos]

is that why

lemme plug in a keyboard real quick

[muted patio]

That's exactly why

[odd cosmos]

got it

alr alr its in BOIS now

set up xmp and then boot

[thorn berry]

Kengen — Today at 6:27 PM
I have a Dell Alienware R3 laptop with a failing internal SSD. It is a Dell M.2 PCIe NVMe Class 40 2280 Solid State Drive - 256GB. I would like to replace this with a reasonably priced 1TB drive. Can anyone give me a recommendation on this? Thank you.

[muted patio]

Then boot from Windows Installation Media

[muted patio]

What's reasonably priced for you>?

$100 get's you 1 TB

$50-60 gets you 500 GB

[thorn berry]

Up to $150 CDN

[odd cosmos]

alr alr thanks

[muted patio]

Ah, Canada

[thorn berry]

Yep! A Canuck.

[muted patio]

Pricing for drives is kinda weird there sometimes compared to here. however, this is right at that limit, it's fast, reliable and good. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe1tb-d8

[thorn berry]

Thanks a mint. I will go have a look at it. Ken

[muted patio]

YW

[thorn berry]

Got it. Thanks again.

[muted patio]

Great, you're welcome!

[mystic siren]

What mother board would you recommend with a core i 11400?

Excluding the b560 and the other 2 new ones

Bc México doesn't have them yet

[muted patio]

uh

waiting then

B460 limits ram speed to 2666

[mystic siren]

I have 3600 rams

So i wait?

Also i wanted to ask the only mother board here

Is this one

[muted patio]

You said no B560 tho lol

But that one is honestly fine

If that's what is available

[earnest olive]

2800 pesos?

[muted patio]

$140

seems about right

[earnest olive]

yeah not terrible

[muted patio]

Same price as here I think

Eh, maybe not

[earnest olive]

a bit pricy for b560 overall

but not terrible

probably cheaper than z490

[muted patio]

Ya

[earnest olive]

decent board not bottom of the barrel

[mystic siren]

Does that one can handle a 5700xt?

And 3600 mhz ram?

[muted patio]

Yes

It can

[mystic siren]

Ok, nice, ty

[muted patio]

YW

[jagged ember]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F3js7X

missing a gpu, but otherwise is this a good list for games like F1 and COD?

[muted patio]

OH hey, that list looks familiar XD

[jagged ember]

lol

[muted patio]

COD tends to be more CPU intensive than GPU but F1 definitely

[jagged ember]

any part updates necessary for this list?

[muted patio]

CPu cooler

Vetroo or ID cooling

[jagged ember]

oh right

yep

[muted patio]

Otherwise nah, good budget rig

[jagged ember]

ack vetroo has no prices

[muted patio]

uh oh

[jagged ember]

id cooling it is then

[muted patio]

BUY IT NOW $23!!! https://www.newegg.com/vetroo-v5/p/13C-00F3-00002?Description=vetroo&cm_re=vetroo-_-9SIAPNCBP46768-_-Product

[jagged ember]

yOOO

[muted patio]

Just buy it XD

[stoic island]

lol

[earnest olive]

I bought a vetroo v5 recently

feels like stealing

[muted patio]

IKR

[earnest olive]

how can such a nice cooler be so cheap

gonna put it on a 4770k

[muted patio]

224SE on my wifes 10600 is doing nice

haven't tried an OC yet

[earnest olive]

gotta set the rgb to red for sure

[jagged ember]

just to be sure, this is not a real concern is it?

[muted patio]

Just use the 2nd M.2 slot

[jagged ember]

okay cool

[earnest olive]

my friend sold me this cute bundle for $110 shipped

[stoic island]

nice

it's cute

[earnest olive]

4770k + 16gb ddr3-2133 + z87 maximus hero

[muted patio]

Nice

I have two Z87's with 4590's in them

Saving them for an O crap day

[earnest olive]

dunno if it's the 2133c9 kit or the 2133c11 kit tho

i'm tossing 2 2070 supers into it

vintage do you happen to know if putting 1 radeon and 1 nvidia gpu in the same system will cause any issues

[muted patio]

I've heard mixed results with that

[rich helm]

Linus did it

[jagged ember]

oo nice and red lol

[muted patio]

Some work and some don't

IDK how to tell though other than to try

[earnest olive]

i want to trade my 2070 supers for 5700xts

[jagged ember]

why tho

[earnest olive]

so i might end up with 1 of each for some time

cause 5700xt is a much better mining card

[jagged ember]

ah, i see

man i should start mining

[earnest olive]

52 mh/s at 90-100w compared to 41 mh/s at 120w

[jagged ember]

everyone out here making money lol

[muted patio]

little bit

Eth went up so much lately I made $30 doing nothing

[jagged ember]

dangit

[desert gulch]

[jagged ember]

so uh, considering i know nothing about mining

nicehash?

[muted patio]

Mmmm

That's the easy way but they have high fees compared to others

TREX and ethermine.org takes minutes to set up once you have a coin wallet

[jagged ember]

hm

will look up trex and ethermine

[earnest olive]

now isn't a great time to get into mining

[muted patio]

Ethermine is just the pool

[earnest olive]

unless you just wanna mine with your one gaming gpu

[muted patio]

Just hit up Trex

[jagged ember]

that's me

[earnest olive]

future of mining is very uncertain rn

profitability is going down even as eth price is going up

[jagged ember]

was it because the computations required are getting more and more difficult?

[earnest olive]

no

more people competing for the same rewards

[jagged ember]

not to derail the topic

but

https://www.staples.ca/products/2950196-en-msi-infinite-a-9sh-691ca-gaming-desktop-computer-30-ghz-intel-core-i7-9700-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-16-gb-ddr4-windows-10-home

i've completely derailed the topic

is this a good deal for 1 grand?

i'm just questioning the 1660 in there

[muted patio]

9700

no

no hyperthreading

[jagged ember]

oh jesus i forgot about the hyperthreading

[earnest olive]

1.1k cad? i think it's good

[jagged ember]

how big of a difference does hyperthreading make?

[earnest olive]

used gtx 1660 is selling for like 700 cad right now

[muted patio]

Is that CAD?

[earnest olive]

yeah

[muted patio]

it is

[earnest olive]

8c/8t is slightly worse than 6c/12t in most tasks

[jagged ember]

oh oops i forgot to say cad

[earnest olive]

better in some

[muted patio]

$800

so yeah, not bad

[jagged ember]

mm

would definitely up the boot drive tho

[earnest olive]

is the ram dual channel? lol

[jagged ember]

i sure hope so

can't tell tho

[earnest olive]

it says max ram upgrade is 16gb

that's sus

maybe that means it's only 1 slot

O_O

[desert gulch]

owo

[earnest olive]

cursed 1 ram slot mobo

[jagged ember]

cursed

[muted patio]

It's dual channel

Found a review

4 ram slots

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/msi-infinite-a

[jagged ember]

oh nice find dude

thanks!

[earnest olive]

it's a nice deal

i7-9700 is still a capable cpu

[jagged ember]

thank you for your input techies

i believe my friend will be pleased with this pc

[muted patio]

👍

[earnest olive]

it's about as good as a 3600 in both single core and multi core

physical cores > threads

[jagged ember]

just slightly worse?

[earnest olive]

nah pretty much on par

[jagged ember]

oh dang

[earnest olive]

just hope the prebuilt can keep it sufficiently cooled

we all know cooling is always a concern in prebuilts lol

[jagged ember]

mm true

that cpu cooler kinda sus

at least it has side vents tho

sorry, side vent

singular

[earnest olive]

this review has an i7-7700 which i think is easier to cool

[jagged ember]

so i guess it's down to seeing if temps are good or not

and then buying a vetroo if it's not

[desert gulch]

IT VENTED

even more sus

[jagged ember]

sus

[earnest olive]

inb4 it has proprietary mobo with proprietary cooler mounting holes

[jagged ember]

noooo

[still roost]

Wideus#1940 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[jagged ember]

frick

i forgot

it's been a long time since i've made that mistake

but proprietary mobo is ass

[earnest olive]

hope the right to repair movement makes proprietary mobos illegal

xd

[jagged ember]

proprietary mobo can die

[lyric thistle]

Which one

LGA or PGA

[earnest olive]

i think lga is better for one very simple reason

mobo tends to be cheaper than cpu

i'd rather accidentally break pins on $150-200 mobo than $300+ cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

isn't pga what amd cpus uses?

the one where pins are on the cpu

lga is pins on mobo

[earnest olive]

yes

mb

i meant to write lga

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

but yeah i agree

[lyric thistle]

Don't PGA cpus have a higher chance of coming unfastened from the retention arm

[rich helm]

Amd ones yes

They get pulled off with coolers easily

You never getting an intel cpu out of that socket when pulling the cooler off

[jagged ember]

But why tho?

Is it the retention method?

[lyric thistle]

Intel cpus have the retention arm plastered down on the ihs

While the amd retention arms I guess grip the pins

[jagged ember]

Hm

[lyric thistle]

Tbh just means you have to be careful removing the cooler, and wiggle it more, be patient

Rotate the cooler

[jagged ember]

Yeah basically

[lyric thistle]

I like the aesthetic of the amd ihs, it's sharp looking, but the Intel ihs has the proper holding method that amd cpus should probably just adopt whether or not they keep or stop using CPU pins

[desert gulch]

boom buy a lga1200 to am4 adapter and put some glue in when installing the cpu into am4 side of adapter so it wont come out then problem solved

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/halter-beyin-komik-brain-workout-gif-13417733

[muted patio]

@leaden mantle pinned in here

[lament fulcrum]

Se 224 xt good enough for 5800x?

[muted patio]

That's pushing it

Vetroo V5 is $23 on newegg right now

Kept a 5900x at 65C under cinebench

SO should do fine for 5800x

[lament fulcrum]

Yeah i mean it keeps my 2700x pretty cool. Im just putting a part list together

Or should i just spend the money and get a chromax noctua since its a high value

[muted patio]

Which Chromax

If you go that route I'd get a 12 or 15

[lament fulcrum]

Probably nhu15

Nhu12s actually. Nhd15 is a bit overkill

[desert gulch]

theres always fuma 2

[lament fulcrum]

They only have black chromax rip

[desert gulch]

https://www.amazon.com/Original-Design-Towers-Cooler-SCFM-2000/dp/B07QMK5R45/ref=asc_df_B07QMK5R45/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416723174073&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11619690602893341471&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032850&hvtargid=pla-716341191240&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=100759323984&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416723174073&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11619690602893341471&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032850&hvtargid=pla-716341191240

long link but whatever

ik someones gonna tell me to shorten the link but whatever

[lament fulcrum]

Going for white cooler

Can do aio but would rather run air if possible

[muted patio]

Vetroo has white too

[desert gulch]

https://www.newegg.com/vetroo-v5/p/13C-00F3-00001

ye its 23 bucks aswell

[lament fulcrum]

Vetroo vs se224?

[muted patio]

Vetroo

[lament fulcrum]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jgVZmk

What yall think about this part list

[muted patio]

Corsair ram is kinda poopy with CL18 timing, should be C16 at least and ballistix or something else RGB.
Cooler should be vetroo V5 white, better than Arctic Freezer, has an extra heat pipe and better fin density.
PCI-E 4.0 for an NVME drive is kinda pointless, save the $50 and get another mushkin because you won't notice a difference in day to day use.

[south jewel]

You could get a white ROG B550 for what 70$ cheaper and the veteoo v5 like vintage said (Ik the nzxt B550 looks nice but you could easily save money with the one I said)

Sorry 50$

https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwjBu7DPparwAhVcBogJHYN_DSAYABAEGgJxbg&ae=2&sig=AOD64_27XDpI8LftadDXlowXdtTh194WLQ&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwinwKTPparwAhVCVc0KHWXiBbYQwg96BAgBECI&dct=1&adurl=

I shoulda got my vetroo black I got it white cus It was my first part and I didn’t decide what I was gonna make the color scheme (I got it first cus it was like $20)

[lament fulcrum]

I could probably overclock the ram to cl16 and the arctic looks to better to me and is a bit more quiet vs vetroo.

Von tech did a sound test on the vetroo and that thing is a friggin turbine

[potent portal]

I wouldn't buy it counting on an overclock. Some cheap IC are garbage for that.

[frank stirrup]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zq6PkX

@lament fulcrum

[south jewel]

A lot better than the previous one only thing is like vintage said u can get a pair of ballistix for cheaper and maybe white case fans

[frank stirrup]

added in rgb ram because prev one had rbg ram

Ballistix were 30$cheaper iirc

[south jewel]

Well if u like the royal for for em

Go*

[robust lake]

Why 28$ for this fan

And the k70 keyboard isnt worth it i think

[frank stirrup]

edit it further ig

[robust lake]

im on phone so its anoying

[frank stirrup]

ic

[lament fulcrum]

Idk i just put a keyboard on there around the same price range as my previous

Fans go with the mobo, mobo has a specific rgb header for nzxt environment

This is just a late night rando build. Dont plan on building anything for the next couple years at least

[topaz vale]

how many displays can I run on a 3060ti tuf oc? theres 2 hdmi 3 display ports but i thought I read somewhere I can run more than there is ports

[potent portal]

According to the asus website the max number of displays is 4.

[topaz vale]

rip

[topaz vale]

I mean that works but I wanted to hook up my drawing tablet as well. I'll just have to run 3 monitors with my tablet on my other desk

[little osprey]

what is this place?

[jagged ember]

Build chat

[sharp tundra]

You know what I just realized? We got the Ps1, ps2, ps3, etc amd we got the xbox, Xbox 360, etc, but we don't got a PC 2. WTH up with that?

[jagged ember]

Pc will always be pc

And how would pc names evolve?

[marble seal]

pc2: even more personal -- only in stores this fall

[leaden shell]

Can someone help me please

My new AIO I installed made my pc loud and the fans were at 100, it is the NZXT Z73, do I change it in the bios or NZXT Cam?

The fan speeds for the sound

I have it plugged into cpu_opt

[muted patio]

Put it on CPU_FAN

[leaden shell]

Will that fix it?

Because the fans are silent in the bios but as soon as I boot into windows they all go back up

[muted patio]

The do it in NZXT CAM

[leaden shell]

I have an AIO Pump header too

[muted patio]

Or it may be your motherboard software interfering also

[leaden shell]

But in the video he put it in cpu opt

[leaden shell]

Hmm

[muted patio]

Like Dragon Center or AI Suite or something

It will override settings from NZXT cam

[leaden shell]

Still loud

[leaden shell]

Don't have those

[muted patio]

Are you sure it's the AIO and not your other system fans?

[leaden shell]

It's my system fans yeah.

But still changed in bios

And was silent

[muted patio]

Do you have the USB cable plugged in from the kraken pump to a UISB 2.0 header?

[leaden shell]

Now it is loud

[muted patio]

System fans

[leaden shell]

Yep

[muted patio]

Not AIO fans?

What are they

[leaden shell]

Naw the aio fans are in front

Corsair exhausts and I managed to put my 2 old lian li intakes at the bottom of the gpu for intake too

[muted patio]

Which fans are making the noise, AIO fans or the rest of your case fans

[leaden shell]

It sounds like my gpu fans but msi afterburner says they are at 29%

So it m8ght be the fans below

[muted patio]

how many pins do the lian li fans have

[leaden shell]

Don't mind the orientation of the screen lmao, I will fix that another time.

[leaden shell]

3

[muted patio]

That's why

[leaden shell]

I plugged them into the cha 2 and cha 3 fans

[muted patio]

Go into BIOS

Change CHA2 and CHA 3 to DC MODE

Cuz you can't control 3 pin fans with PWM

[leaden shell]

Alrighty

Lemme check

[leaden shell]

It says they are on DC though

Like when I am in the bios the fan slows down to this speed and is perfect

Really weird

My CPU fan is on pwm with the aio, should I put it on DC?

[muted patio]

3 PIN is DC

4 PIN is PWM

[still roost]

xNick_O#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[leaden shell]

My bad for language

Okay so

I realized the NZXT Z73 is 3 pin

So put cpu fan on dc?

[muted patio]

No, it's only two wires yeah?

[muted patio]

It's just feedback, AIO control is done through USB and software

[leaden shell]

The z73 has the usb cable going to the back into usb 2.0 and then 3 fan splitters plug into the extender at the back then 1 cable is unused

[muted patio]

I know

I read the manual

You really need to figure out WHICH fans are at 100% so we aren't guessing

[leaden shell]

Yeah but whenever I am in the bios it sounds normal

Let me put the 2 lian li fans at the bottom at 100% in bios and see

[muted patio]

Ok, forget about the BIOS being normal

Figure out which fans are loud

[leaden shell]

Yep, it is those lian li fans at the bottom

So keeping the z73 3-pin cpu fan header on pwm

[muted patio]

You've got em set to 60% in the BIOS

That's kinda high

lower it

[leaden shell]

I really don't know what is overriding it when I boot into windows

Alright

Of course I can't go lower than 60

[muted patio]

Slide it over to manual and set your own curve

[leaden shell]

Typical asus

[muted patio]

on the bottom

Like the text says

[leaden shell]

Can't drag it below 60

Any of those dots

[muted patio]

what does the check box on the right say

[leaden shell]

Manual ? Or DC?

[muted patio]

You have Armoury crate installed?

[leaden shell]

No clue what that is so I'm guessing no

Just searched it up and to my knowledge, nope.

I have the Asus X570 tuf gaming plus

[muted patio]

I have the same one. TBH I control my fans through AI Suite.

[sly sapphire]

What’s a good budget build (500-600 dollars) for hosting a small Minecraft server?

[leaden shell]

And you can't go below 60 too?

[muted patio]

No, I def can

[leaden shell]

Especially since my bios is updated

[leaden shell]

No I meant in the bios

I will install ai suite

Does that override the bios?

[muted patio]

IDK, don't use the BIOS fan curves XD

[leaden shell]

Oh 🤣

Let me try that then

Oh wow...

Nzxt Cam stopped one of my GPU fans and is throttling the other one too

[muted patio]

NZXT cam should have no control over GPU fans

[leaden shell]

It does

[muted patio]

I hate that software like I dislike their aio's

[leaden shell]

Unless I mixed it up because literally it says GPU for some reason

[muted patio]

They shouldn't have that in there, apparently they do

[leaden shell]

Maybe I tightened the fans too much at the bottom as well even though I try not to

[muted patio]

NZXT should keep it's nose out of GPU things and leave that to GPU software

[leaden shell]

Yeah but about the gpu fan, it randomly started again

It is really strange

[leaden shell]

Exactly like wth

[leaden shell]

Ajd the noise is gone

I only hear the AIO pump really

Even though I put it at the bottom I hear liquid flowing which I saw on some forums it means bubbles are there so I have to tilt the case or something

[muted patio]

This is why I disagree with tubes at the bottom. Air gets trapped in the pump and can't be forced DOWN through the tubes

With tubes at the top, air will go into the tubes, the highest point in the system and can be forced into the top of the radiator

It's just like a car engine

[leaden shell]

GamersNexus moment tbvh

Will that damage my AIO? I will probably change it around and reseat the pump to change the orientation next month or so because I am so tired and not really feeling to do all that again.

[rich helm]

It will reduce the life span I believe

[muted patio]

No, it won't damage it nor reduce the lifespan

Either that or put your PC on it's back where all the connections are and run it to force the air out of the pump

[leaden shell]

Oh phew, alrighty will do that in a bit but man, from yesterday till today, thank you so very much for the assistance..

[muted patio]

YW

[leaden shell]

Oh also, with my old CPU I had my 3600 on default where it boosts the clock speed for itself but now, I noticed my clock speed is always high even though I touched nothing and my CPU is at a constant idle temp of 57 degrees with the AIO and when I just ran a stress test in Cinebench R23, it stayed at 57 degrees too and in Ryzen master so it means that the clock speed or wattage is heating it up on idle..

[muted patio]

Change your windows power plan to AMD Ryzen balanced

[leaden shell]

It's currently on this

[muted patio]

IDK, check task manager. Might be something using cpu.

[leaden shell]

Nope, fairly low CPU usage.

[jagged ember]

have you tried rebooting the pc?

[leaden shell]

Yep. Rebooted a lot since I put in the new CPU.

Is it possible to have a low usage and a high clock?

[muted patio]

Power plan details, lower minimum CPU state to 30% or similar

[leaden shell]

It might be wallpaper engine.

[jagged ember]

ah

yes, that's possible

[robust lake]

Yes

Sometimes it can use alot

[muted patio]

Power plan might be set to 99 minimum, check it

[leaden shell]

Alright let me try changing the wallpaper on wallpaper engine before I try that since the usage is around 20%

Alrighty

[jagged ember]

20% is a little high for idle

[leaden shell]

Oh wow..

[muted patio]

Wallpaper engine does that...........

[leaden shell]

That somehow worked.. That's really strange. Has never happened to me before on the old CPU.

[robust lake]

Because you had video

Lol

On the wallpaper

[leaden shell]

I just changed the wallpaper to something different and it went down.

[jagged ember]

wallpaper engine can use many resources

it depends on the background and what it does

[leaden shell]

Yeah it was paired with my case lights and audio too.

[jagged ember]

ahh that makes a lot of sense

[leaden shell]

Damn, thanks.