Yes but not worth like negligible amounts to have a terrible time while using pc
#building-and-recc-chat
fossil cedar
odd cosmos
ok
but if yk, im not using it
mining with cpu is not that bad is it?
since if there are no downsides, something like 100 dollars a year from doing nothing is nice
fossil cedar
Ehhh i mean cpu is also gonna generate a lot more heat
odd cosmos
um yea ig so
but i can take off side panel to combat that yk
and the p400a has pretty good cooling
fossil cedar
It's like 30-50c w day if you ran 24/7
fossil cedar
but i can take off side panel to combat that yk
The poor environment
fossil cedar
Good idea
fossil cedar
Yeah those prices you see on the calc are 24/7 not average
odd cosmos
and say i only mine for 22 hours,
i should make around 5
since high peak
and mid peak
i used low peak price to calculate so yk
it should be around 5 cad
a day
thats not entirely bad
fossil cedar
it should be around 5 cad
That's not right it should be around 50c
little osprey
its usually 3900Xes you want to use if you do CPU mine
odd cosmos
its usually 3900Xes you want to use if you do CPU mine
oh yea, how come?
little osprey
more cores = higher hashrate
odd cosmos
oh alr
fossil cedar
for a 3060?
Ohh thought you were still on about the10400
odd cosmos
should i have considered that before i bought lol
odd cosmos
Ohh thought you were still on about the10400
oh yea LOL
i have the 11500 if that makes much of a difference
fossil cedar
Yep
fossil cedar
Nicehash for me
muted patio
and ethermine.org
fossil cedar
Fees too high
Thing is nicehash having the deal with coinbase means lower fees if i use nicehash
odd cosmos
not gonna ask why cause i prob dont understnad lmao
little osprey
phoenix is sus rn so im recommending nicehash for amd
odd cosmos
prob should start entering shuffle tmrw
no idea how im gonna get my hands on a 3060ti
fossil cedar
Good luck
odd cosmos
lol thanks
verbal quarry
what does the hybrid do on psu?
odd cosmos
just one last thing, should i get a new psu just in case?
muted patio
No
odd cosmos
i have a corsair cx 550W
muted patio
550W is fine lol
verbal quarry
is it worth having it off?
muted patio
CX is just fine
muted patio
is it worth having it off?
IMo no
verbal quarry
alr
rugged copper
My intel i5 650 is a wee bit of a bottleneck
fossil cedar
is it worth having it off?
No just leave it
rugged copper
What do
fossil cedar
My intel i5 650 is a wee bit of a bottleneck
For what gpu?
ancient wraith
anyone know what to do
odd abyss
how can i figure out a good monitor i could run with this?
fairly cheap but good is what in kinda looking for
after buying all these expensive parts i need to buy sum cheaper lol
vagrant olive
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jccDVc
side note, im sure you know this but do you have a gpu to use? 11400f no igpu
and for that
vagrant olive
kk
odd abyss
lol
vagrant olive
damn the monitor i was gonna do isnt in stock for the good price
odd abyss
eh, send it to me i’ll check it out
i want good graphics
like 1080p or sum
can i go higher? or no
shut rampart
hmm
shut rampart
anyone good at picking desk LOL
vagrant olive
yeah probably like 2000 series or up
odd abyss
but i could run 1080p fine
muted patio
2000 series discontinued
odd abyss
2000 series discontinued
wym
muted patio
Don't buy, extremely overpriced used
odd abyss
naw
vagrant olive
anyone good at picking desk LOL
cant help ya with that but man i was trying to look for a new desk recently and jesus they have gone up in price
muted patio
nVidia RTX 2000 series, they stopped making them last July
shut rampart
vintage are you good at picking desk
muted patio
Desk is way too subjective for that IMO lol
shut rampart
cant help ya with that but man i was trying to look for a new desk recently and ...
yha true
shut rampart
idk if I should get a L shape desk
echo vale
odd abyss
can’t tell if that’s a joke or not
timber crescent
Dumb question can I put an mini itx in a case with holes for atx and micro atx?
topaz void
Dumb question can I put an mini itx in a case with holes for atx and micro atx?
Do you have a specific case in mind? Some I would think it would be fine but others might now be
jagged ember
I don't think so, cases designed for atx and matx won't fit itx
But double check that
timber crescent
Its a old cooler master haf no glass or acrylic.
topaz void
My other question would be why? itx boards are much more expensive
jagged ember
And less space to work with
desert gulch
My other question would be why? itx boards are much more expensive
they may already have one
timber crescent
I have my old pc giving it to my dad he doesn't like the case though.
topaz void
Haf doesn't appear to support itx
timber crescent
So the four upper hole on an micro atx are not same as an itx board?
jagged ember
Upper left sure
Anywhere else is questionable
Iirc itx is about half the length and width of matx or something
muted patio
Yeah, cases that support ATX/MATX don't do ITX
jagged ember
Just about yeah
The case won't be keyed for itx
But that said...
You could just do it yourself lol
lyric thistle
don't matx cases have standoff mounts for itx?
muted patio
Not really
lyric thistle
could've sworn
jagged ember
Mine doesn't
muted patio
Not any I've ever seen, it's ATX/MATX for the most part
lyric thistle
well if it's a matx case it won't support atx lol
muted patio
Or ITX/MATX for the smaller cases
timber crescent
You know what I already have it apart will check to see if the holes line up.
Let you know in a few minutes.
If it doesn't will just put back in my case.
jagged ember
Lol just drill new holes
timber crescent
Dad changed his mind 🤦♂️ now my case is fine it was just before I started to disassemble mine.
Save a bit of time.
lyric thistle
yea if it's got standoff mounts for matx it's got standoff mounts for mitx lol
forest steppe
If I get a b460 phantom gaming 4 can it handle 3600 MHz ram (I’m new to pc building)
lyric thistle
that's not bad for a school computer
tepid path
that's not bad for a school computer
please tell me what i should buy to upgrade i have 150$
i need a upgrade bad
topaz void
<:ssadge:827702421279080468>
That's scarily close to the old pc I just replaced. had a i5-4690k a random mess of ddr3 memory totaling to 20GB and a few other things
tepid path
it looks so old
lyric thistle
my school's computers had 3rd gen i3s and i5s, 4 gigs of ram (the specialized photo editing computers probably had better)
what gpu do you have @tepid path
tepid path
what gpu do you have <@!836412265573515284>
lemem check
tepid path
what gpu do you have <@!836412265573515284>
Intel hd integrated graphics 4600
muted patio
You already bought a 2700x and X570??
desert gulch
and why 2700x?
little osprey
and i need some reccomendations for the rest
topaz void
does x570 even support 2700x?
little osprey
excep for gpu and fans
little osprey
does x570 even support 2700x?
not sure
muted patio
yes but a $400 mobo with that cpu?
muted patio
oof
lyric thistle
ight so that's probably the only thing you'll really need, a gpu, maybe a power supply if the gpu needs more power, and lastly an upgrade to an i7-4790 or xeon e3-1271v3
little osprey
i already had it
little osprey
ight so that's probably the only thing you'll really need, a gpu, maybe a power ...
yeah but im not getting a gpu until later
lyric thistle
other than that I think you're good
forest steppe
Need B560 for that
Thx bro
lyric thistle
talking to weston ^^
tepid path
ight so that's probably the only thing you'll really need, a gpu, maybe a power ...
i was wanting a new case and mother board too
my pc looks old
lyric thistle
yea
tepid path
and some ddr4
muted patio
yeah but im not getting a gpu until later
Well, PC will be useless until you do
no integrated GPU there
desert gulch
mhmm
little osprey
Well, PC will be useless until you do
no yeah ik
muted patio
And honestly, can you return that MB?
desert gulch
but yeah that motherboard is a huge waste of money
muted patio
Or CPU?
little osprey
im going to the us in a few months to buy the rest of the parts
lyric thistle
if you're going ddr4 you're getting a new cpu weston
little osprey
but yeah that motherboard is a huge waste of money
i already had it
desert gulch
you just said you bought it
tepid path
if you're going ddr4 you're getting a new cpu weston
oh
muted patio
Get a better CPU then?
little osprey
Get a better CPU then?
its in the us
muted patio
2700x is kinda rough
little osprey
im not there rn
lyric thistle
at that point you might as well build a whole new kit
tepid path
at that point you might as well build a whole new kit
yeah ik
little osprey
im only doing some coding rendering and some gaming
tepid path
but i don't have 800 dollars laying around to just get a new rig
little osprey
is it actually that bad
lyric thistle
yea
desert gulch
it is
little osprey
oh no
little osprey
well already have it idk what else to do
desert gulch
whered you buy from?
lyric thistle
do you have an ssd weston?
little osprey
my uncle bought it for me in tx im not sure what store
tepid path
do you have an ssd weston?
yes and a hdd
lyric thistle
nice
desert gulch
my uncle bought it for me in tx im not sure what store
prolly amazon
id see about returning it tbh
for 400 bucks its a complete ripoff
little osprey
i was thinking of getting like a 512gb ssd and a 1t hdd
little osprey
prolly amazon
i think it was a local store
thats where he gets most of his stuff
like microcenter
desert gulch
i think it was a local store
for the price that pcpp is showing you can almost get a 5800x lol
tepid path
i need to pick out parts in pc part picker
royal nest
Hello, i am planning to upgrade to not very expensive one but a mid range that can work for future games aswell
desert gulch
Hello, i am planning to upgrade to not very expensive one but a mid range that c...
budget?
little osprey
for the price that pcpp is showing you can almost get a 5800x lol
i dont think i can return it
royal nest
1k-1.1k thats it
desert gulch
you have any pc parts rn?
like storage devices?
or is this your first pc in a while?
lyric thistle
so I think the smallest effort upgrade for you would be a gpu and a psu, I'd say something around the performance of a gtx 1650 @tepid path
tepid path
yeah
desert gulch
ill make a list for rey real quick
lyric thistle
I got a gtx 970 for my i7-4790 computer
tepid path
do you know what power supply you have?
lemme check
royal nest
you have any pc parts rn?
Yes, i have crucial ssd mx500, psi colermaster 600w 80plus and coolermaster case but it’s for ddr3 ram can it be run on new 10th gen?
lyric thistle
you can take a pic of the sticker, has all the info about it on there
desert gulch
Yes, i have crucial ssd mx500, psi colermaster 600w 80plus and coolermaster case...
no
sadly
like the ram wont work
but ssd, psu, and case will work
lyric thistle
I had a psu like this lol, 280w, very basic
and I don't think it was 80 plus rated
royal nest
So what do you suggest i should go for? Ryzen or intel?
royal nest
im gonna say intel
If intel i want 10th gen so maybe in future if I upgrade it can be done easily without changing mobo, or is there 11th gen too?
desert gulch
If intel i want 10th gen so maybe in future if I upgrade it can be done easily w...
11th gen is on same mobo
basically 12th gen will be on a new mobo
that will be on the LGA1700 socket
same thing with amd, their next series will be on a am5 mobo
royal nest
So you suggest me to wait?
desert gulch
so current gen cpus would allow for no upgrade without a new mobo
lyric thistle
i have no clue waht psu it is
send a pic if it has a sticker on it
desert gulch
unless you upgrade to a cpu from same gen
lyric thistle
probably via dm since you're not lvl 3 yet
desert gulch
i mean, waiting ig could work, but there will be a early adopters fee
as the ram will be new aswell
itll be ddr5
desert gulch
im guessing late this year or early next year
TeamGroup plans for its DDR5 RAM modules to be released in Q3 of 2021.
so team is saying late this year
royal nest
Thanks for your help, I am thinking to wait since ddr5 will be around for like next 3-4 years right?
desert gulch
keep in mind tho there will be a early adopters fee for it
uhhh yeah im guessing itll last around that long
desert gulch
basically its new, so theres gonna be a premium on it
youre gonna pay more for it in early 2022 than in like 2023
royal nest
So expensive?
desert gulch
more expensive than it will be after its more mainstream
royal nest
But do you think ddr5 and ddr4 got big difference?
desert gulch
oh yeah huge different
royal nest
I mean is it worth waiting?
muted patio
At first it won't be much different
It will take a while for speeds to up and CL to go down
desert gulch
i mean i think its gonna be real good once its optimised well for
royal nest
Or should go for 11th gen cpu and mobo?
desert gulch
team is saying they expect performance increase of up to "1.6 times"
royal nest
Hmm, I will take my time to think about that and possibly get back here... you guys were so helpful thanks again 😊
shut lagoon
Finished this build a couple days ago, thoughts?https://pcpartpicker.com/b/3rgJ7P
desert gulch
Finished this build a couple days ago, thoughts?https://pcpartpicker.com/b/3rgJ7...
beautiful!!!
shut lagoon
thanks
royal nest
team is saying they expect performance increase of up to "1.6 times"
Also, if you have any idea on when these gpus prices will be down? I mean if possibly you have heard anything?
desert gulch
i mean im guessing like a year ish tbh
royal nest
😵
desert gulch
just depends on how supply is
royal nest
People say it’s due to miners
desert gulch
could be as soon as a few months tbh
obsidian wigeon
Not really tbh
muted patio
It ain't miners lol
desert gulch
People say it’s due to miners
its really not
obsidian wigeon
It's more scalpers
muted patio
Nah, not even them
desert gulch
thats just ppl who are mad at miners
obsidian wigeon
Huh
muted patio
PC demand up 26% 4th quarter of 2020 and going higher
muted patio
Mostly that, people working from home, kids schooling from home, etc
royal nest
Oh, covid yeah
obsidian wigeon
yeh
muted patio
People needing PC's at home
obsidian wigeon
People forced to stay home
muted patio
More that than anything else
obsidian wigeon
Luckily I already have one kek, even tho it's a crappy laptop
People blaming it on miners are just angry tbh
muted patio
Got my 3070 in january before the taxes hit
desert gulch
lol i got my 5700xt for 390 back in july
royal nest
Yeah, almost everything is relayed on pcs here in my country they are schooling from home since may 2020
desert gulch
now its worth ez 600-700
muted patio
Scalpers are just taking advantage of the situation but are a small part of the issue
desert gulch
mhmm
obsidian wigeon
true
lyric thistle
I don't like crypto mining but yea 
obsidian wigeon
I honestly plan to become a miner lel
desert gulch
lol
shut lagoon
Scalpers are just taking advantage of the situation but are a small part of the ...
Theres also the whole silicon shortage in tiwan bc of the droughts, right?
muted patio
Eh, kinda
obsidian wigeon
Supply could be better when lovelace comes
muted patio
Plus Chinese New Year last month slowed things up as well
obsidian wigeon
But that's my hope
muted patio
Tons of workers on vacation
obsidian wigeon
Covid is here to stay, ack
muted patio
sdo we catching back up after that
obsidian wigeon
ah
lyric thistle
ezp
obsidian wigeon
sad
lyric thistle
z
muted patio
I wouldn't expect any to hit the market
lyric thistle
become oem
royal nest
Well I found this discord server through a tweet in which they asked to join here for a giveaway and I think even if someone doesn’t get it, this a good server for someone like me who is planning to upgrade or build. Cheers guys I will be around and I think that i should like 5-6 month more
I mean by then it will be clear if they are actually releasing ddr5 mobo or how it is
muted patio
They will be releasing them but not until the very end of 2021 or early 2022
desert gulch
And even then you will pay for being early to it
obsidian wigeon
^
raw crane
Hello what is system 32 and why are people telling me to delete it
lyric thistle
lmao
sys32 is windows
people are telling you to delete it because it's a long running meme
muted patio
Hello what is system 32 and why are people telling me to delete it
TO ruin your computer
don't listen to the jerks
desert gulch
Will windows even let you delete it?
lyric thistle
when you delete sys32, the os dies
lyric thistle
Will windows even let you delete it?
probably not
raw crane
They were telling me to delete it because it’ll reboot up to system 33 and you’ll get better like, FPS and graphics
lyric thistle
I think you have to do it via command line or something
desert gulch
Lemme guess, some tiktok kids gave you that advice?
raw crane
So I was confused
lyric thistle
they're trolling you 😔
royal nest
And even then you will pay for being early to it
Well then what do you suggest if I buy a new mobo what it should be for a budget pc 10th gen one?
desert gulch
Well then what do you suggest if I buy a new mobo what it should be for a budget...
Well if you go b560, it'll work for 10 and 11th gen
Same socket
royal nest
I was looking at b460 pro asrock is it older than b560?
desert gulch
Don't go b460
It'll limit ram speed
2666 on i3 or i5
2933 on i7 or i9
Where as any b560 should be capable of 3200+
royal nest
Oh, didn’t know there was something like that on mobos 😵
desert gulch
And yes b460 is older than b560
royal nest
I mean I thought it was just buy a 3200 ram and put it into the socket and then it will give me that speed straight
royal nest
Let me check b560
desert gulch
Every b560 is capable of 3200+
royal nest
What is the difference between an atx mobo or a simple one?
desert gulch
atx is form factor
its like one of the bigger ones
thats most of the standard form factors
lyric thistle
and then there's EATX
lyric thistle
big chungus
desert gulch
not super common in gaming pcs
lyric thistle
mostly for HEDT parts I think
desert gulch
mhmm
royal nest
I see a mini-itx too
lyric thistle
bigger cpu die
desert gulch
I see a mini-itx too
ye funny thing is, MATX is usually cheaper than ATX, but mini ITX is more expensive usually than ATX or MATX
royal nest
Which one do you think is better, micro atx or mini?
lyric thistle
I like micro
next kestrel
cheapest
desert gulch
micro very nice for price for what you get
lyric thistle
cheapest is usually micro as well
next kestrel
cheapest with 4 ram slots
lyric thistle
maybe one that doesn't have vrm heatsinks which I don't think is an issue if it has lots of vrms
don't think you'll usually find one without the heatsink but a lot of vrms
royal nest
Ok also what is the meaning of these alphabets next to the 560 like b560M-A or B560 prime etc?
desert gulch
just different names for different boards made by different manufactureres
vagrant olive
thats just the model of it named by the manufacturer
desert gulch
but they all run on the same thing
lyric thistle
the M means matx
vagrant olive
^
royal nest
What about mpg x570 by msi?
lyric thistle
that's amd
royal nest
Oh
lyric thistle
x570 is the high end chipset for amd, b550 is the midrange, a520 is the low end
z590 high, b560 mid, h510 low for intel
desert gulch
mhmm
timber crescent
What cpu are you looking at out of curiosity?
lyric thistle
there's some chipset/mobo feature guides aren't there
topaz void
there's some chipset/mobo feature guides aren't there
Probably? I just know the big one between b550 and x570 is the pcie gen 4 lanes
lyric thistle
I've used wikipedia for basic info on earlier intel core series chipset features
desert gulch
Probably? I just know the big one between b550 and x570 is the pcie gen 4 lanes
and id say vrms are better on some x570s, (not the msi ones lol) since they expect higher end cpus being used on it
topaz void
and id say vrms are better on some x570s, (not the msi ones lol) since they expe...
Lol yea I was about to say my B550 from msi has way better vrm's than their x570 options
But yea that makes sense too
desert gulch
ye msi x570 sucks bad
topaz void
I want to say their b550's had some of the better vrm's too compared to other manufacturers so they compensated big time
topaz void
Oh yea ik, their x570's were awful
desert gulch
der8auer has a good thing on it
royal nest
topaz void
why is arabic amazon mirrored. I don't like it
desert gulch
so that price in usd is nearly 300 bucks
royal nest
What cpu are you looking at out of curiosity?
Core i7
royal nest
so that price in usd is nearly 300 bucks
Yes
royal nest
so that price in usd is nearly 300 bucks
Is it good?
desert gulch
unless you have an unlocked cpu, "K" variant, id go b560
royal nest
I am actually confused if the k or f doesn’t have much difference then I’ll go for k since it’s the best right
timber crescent
Does b still limit the ram speeds? Think i read somewhere that intel was funny like that.
desert gulch
"f" means no integrated graphics
desert gulch
Does b still limit the ram speeds? Think i read somewhere that intel was funny l...
b560 allows for mem oc
and k means unlocked, so you can basically overclock it
royal nest
And simple 10700?
desert gulch
simple 10700 is not unlocked and has integrated graphics
topaz void
Does b still limit the ram speeds? Think i read somewhere that intel was funny l...
It used to but I think they remedied that with the 560
it was either the 560 or the previous mobo ik it is a thing again now though
timber crescent
Ok thought I had read that b wasn't at one point.
royal nest
So 590 also got that ram limiting issue?
desert gulch
bascially b560 wont allow for cpu overclocking
but z490/z590 will
so if you dont have an unlocked cpu then go b560
muted patio
B460 limits ram
desert gulch
mhmm
topaz void
B460 limits ram
ah ok i knew it was recent that intel allowed memory overclocking on b series boards but didn't remember how recent
topaz void
That said though I do think it was also on really old b motherboards too because I think my b85 had xmp if I recall correctly. Not that I had memory that I could use xmp with
topaz void
That's fair, the b85 I had was DDR3 too lol.
royal nest
Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS ELITE AX LGA 1200 Intel Z590 ATX Motherboard with Triple M.2, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C, Intel WIFI 6, 2.5GbE LAN
Think this one is a bit better than the one i posted above
topaz void
if you aren't getting an unlocked cpu you don't need z590 though?
muted patio
Nope
Non-K just get B560
But not a cheap one
ASrock and some of the other lower end ones have garbage VRM for the better processors
royal nest
if you aren't getting an unlocked cpu you don't need z590 though?
Is it just like wasting money you mean?
muted patio
Yes
topaz void
Is it just like wasting money you mean?
pretty much
royal nest
Ok thanks, I will look for 560 then.
clear moat
recommend replacing thermal pads on 80
distant spoke
Help please
My PC's perfectly functioning m.2 stopped functioning after I tried to add a new m.2 into the second slot on my asus z390a motherboard
little osprey
Good morning everyone. Is there any point in asking for help in choosing a GPU you may be able to buy currently for a new builder?
lyric thistle
sure
little osprey
This is what i have so far.
Waiting on a power supply and case. I plan on streaming. That CPU is a 5800x
little osprey
Nope haha.
lyric thistle
it will be important to get at least a basic gpu/display adapter to use the computer when it's assembled
little osprey
I knew things were rough but still thought id get these ready to go.
lyric thistle
5800x doesn't have igp
little osprey
I plan on not using it or building it until i have some kind of GPU
Well, i want to build it just dont want to turn it on 🙂
lyric thistle
you should build and fire it up asap for return purposes
if any parts you received exhibit faulty behavior it would be nice to know sooner rather than later so you can return the broken part within the return window
little osprey
So nothing will happen to anything if i dont have a GPU?
Sorry, serious nooby here.
lyric thistle
5800x doesn't have igp
well, it won't run without a gpu
has to have some form of graphics to turn on, whether that be integrated or dedicated
little osprey
So for now, should i buy the cheapest money can buy that i can find?
lyric thistle
a GT 710 or even a GeForce 210 would work just to get it running
little osprey
Perfect. Thank you very much indeed for your time and advice
little osprey
Np. If this is what it takes it is what it is 😦
lyric thistle
you could always sell it again if you wanted to :p
though I'd recommend having one on hand for emergencies
little osprey
I may keep it. If i ever get famous in the streaming word i can share my story and set up of what it was like when i started 😛
lyric thistle
haha
forest nexus
tight sorrel
the lian li
slow solar
is 11900k better then 10900k
robust lake
11900k is a waste of money
slow solar
wow
frank stirrup
its not an i9 and you cant convince me it is
slow solar
so is 10900k better then 11700k
frank stirrup
singlecore is better for the 11900 but 2 less cores
frank stirrup
so is 10900k better then 11700k
yes
slow solar
yeah i think he said 5.1
fossil cedar
is 11900k better then 10900k
Get a 10850k or get a Ryzen 9 5900x
slow solar
so 10900k is the best option for like intel range of 10k stuff
fossil cedar
10850k imo basically a 10900k but like 100 cheaper
fossil cedar
You can't shop by ghz anyway
frank stirrup
You can't shop by ghz anyway
thats like saying 5000mhz cl 30 ram better than 3200cl14 lol
fossil cedar
But no you can't do that on standard cooling and voltage you need good cooling
frank stirrup
also a really good bin
fossil cedar
thats like saying 5000mhz cl 30 ram better than 3200cl14 lol
Because both the numbers bigger duh
frank stirrup
You make a good point
slow solar
lol
fossil cedar
should i get a 3060ti or wait for 3080ti
That's a big price gap what's your budget, also whichever one is inflated
slow solar
i heard that 3080ti is drastically better
fossil cedar
i heard that 3080ti is drastically better
Well ofc it's gonna be drastically better, its gonna have an msrp of like a grand
What voltages and cooler?
frank stirrup
how is an aio standard
slow solar
Well ofc it's gonna be drastically better, its gonna have an msrp of like a gran...
even after the mining apocalypse?
fossil cedar
Aio isn't standard, standard is like a gammaxx 400
frank stirrup
or like a 212
tough kettle
I've only seen 9900K's do 5GHz at 1.3v with standard cooling but ok
slow solar
Well ofc it's gonna be drastically better, its gonna have an msrp of like a gran...
what do u think how much will the price drop after the mining apocalypse
frank stirrup
Good perf on standard cooling would bee like my 3600x all core 4.4ghz at 1.28V on a 212
fossil cedar
even after the mining apocalypse?
No mining is a tiny part, it's just massive consumer demand
frank stirrup
what do u think how much will the price drop after the mining apocalypse
not much
fossil cedar
what do u think how much will the price drop after the mining apocalypse
Hardly anything even if ether and all other cryptos fell off the face of the earth
fossil cedar
Its like 90% gamers 5-10% just miners because most gamers are mining in their off time
frank stirrup
You forgot them there scalpers
fossil cedar
Well I'm ignoring the scalpers because they'll either end up in gamers or miners hands eventually
frank stirrup
Well I'm ignoring the scalpers because they'll either end up in gamers or miners...
Still leads to price increase tho
overall
fossil cedar
Still leads to price increase tho
Ohh yeah but they were talking amount demand i think
fossil cedar
so 11900k is trash
Yeah
frank stirrup
I've learnt here more in 10 mins then on youtube for 2 months lol
youtube doesnt give the entire picture tbh... it gives what people wanna see
fossil cedar
Waste of money
raw crane
Can you guys recommend any good videos to hell me install Ethernet drivers
frank stirrup
so 11900k is trash
as GN called it, its pathetic
fossil cedar
youtube doesnt give the entire picture tbh... it gives what people wanna see
Yeah people wanna blame those damm miners
raw crane
On a driver from another laptop
slow solar
as GN called it, its pathetic
ok
frank stirrup
Can you guys recommend any good videos to hell me install Ethernet drivers
go to support page of manufacturer and download the driivers for the device
slow solar
what good motherboard should i get with 10900k and 3080ti
frank stirrup
and doubleclick the exe
frank stirrup
what good motherboard should i get with 10900k and 3080ti
Z chipset
raw crane
Thank you so much
fossil cedar
Can you guys recommend any good videos to hell me install Ethernet drivers
Just go to intels site or realtek etc whoever makes the ethernet driver then download and put onto a usb
frank stirrup
Im not the person to ask for intel motherboards
slow solar
uhhh
fossil cedar
Z490 or z590
frank stirrup
Z490 or z590
Yeah
fossil cedar
There's both with rgb depends wich one
frank stirrup
My recommendation tho is dont get an asrock board
fossil cedar
^
slow solar
ok
frank stirrup
their bios is more poopy than the gpu stock situation
slow solar
so Z590 hero wifi something
slow solar
their bios is more poopy than the gpu stock situation
lol
I don't really know details about component compatibility
frank stirrup
slow solar
i just need a pc that can run my simulator lol
frank stirrup
Thats a list by forks
fossil cedar
i just need a pc that can run my simulator lol
May i recommend ryzen 9 5900x if it fits in your budget
frank stirrup
Basically VRM is what provides power to the cpu
frank stirrup
so good vrm=good board
frank stirrup
The Z490 aorus elite looking nais
fossil cedar
I've never used ryzen but I've heard its in some way better
Yes Ryzen 5000 is better than intel atm but if you want a z590 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V7PQzy/msi-z590-pro-wifi-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z590-pro-wifi
frank stirrup
The z590 aorus elite lokking better imo
fossil cedar
What?
frank stirrup
z590 support intel and amd
No
fossil cedar
z590 support intel and amd
No just intel
slow solar
that sucks
fossil cedar
Motherboards are cpu brand specific
frank stirrup
Not a single motherboard supports intel and amd
slow solar
oh ok
fossil cedar
Not really it means that you don't end up with a janky performing board
frank stirrup
Intel is Z>B>H
fossil cedar
Don't even touch h
frank stirrup
AMD is X>B>A
slow solar
what?
raw crane
The driver I used to download windows, can I download more stuff on it
slow solar
maybe it is better
uneven oar
AMD is X>B>A
bout to say lol
slow solar
that its brand specific
fossil cedar
The driver I used to download windows, can I download more stuff on it
Yes?
raw crane
Otay just making sure
frank stirrup
The driver I used to download windows, can I download more stuff on it
do you mean usb drive?
fossil cedar
What do you mean by latency bruh?
frank stirrup
Yeah you can
fossil cedar
Yeah
raw crane
Okay thank you
fossil cedar
Yeah you can do whatever
raw crane
Otay thank you
frank stirrup
There was a point when I used to run 3 linux OSes off a single 64GB pendrive lol
frank stirrup
is it an empty drive?
No it still has the windows installer on it
fossil cedar
is it an empty drive?
Well you'll need to format the drive first but yeah
fossil cedar
We aren't talking about mem latency
frank stirrup
so i can install it on another pc too
yus
slow solar
dope
fossil cedar
You can install windows for free using the media creation tool on their site and a usb stick
frank stirrup
Its almost like zen 3 fixed that and yet you say a cpu which no one here is talking about has bad latency so amd is bad
slow solar
thats ryzen 7
frank stirrup
Who here is talking about zen+
fossil cedar
Where did get that graph also that's zen + not ryzen 5000
frank stirrup
thats Zen 3
fossil cedar
i think pato said ryzen 9 5900x
Very nice cpu
slow solar
xd
fossil cedar
Kicks intels touche
frank stirrup
i think pato said ryzen 9 5900x
slaps around a 10900k lol
robust lake
More expensive tho
frank stirrup
Well more cores and better single core as well tho
fossil cedar
More expensive tho
Well yeah but they were looking at 11900k so think they got budget for 5900x
fossil cedar
Yeah intels good for budget
frank stirrup
Ryzen is better for high end but intel has some good budget cpus
only i5s
the rest of intels 11th gen lineup is a waste of sand and pathetic
robust lake
Yeah but 10700k is nice
frank stirrup
Yeah but 10700k is nice
Waste of sand
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n0_UcBxnpk
He said 10700k
fossil cedar
Yep
frank stirrup
thats 3 years old
also not a great cpu by any meaning of the word anymore
Genshin Impact
Checkmate
also if you gonna be getting a 3080, 1080p is dumb
Your point?
you asked for a game that the 9700K couldnt run at 240fps and I gave it to you
also since you never specified a graphics card it cant run more games at that fps than it can
raw crane
Okay I need phat help. My motherboard (MSI Z490 a-pro) doesn’t have wireless wifi so I connected it to Ethernet however no network connection is showing up. I thought I needed to update the drivers in which I did (transferred through usb drive) but I guess it’s not working even though I downloaded it like 100 times. If anyone has any solutions it’ll be appreciated
From the MSI website
Specific for my motherboard
Yeah
I updated bios
And I restsarted windows yes
This is all of the info I guess
New Ethernet cable I really don’t think it’s the problem
Yeah
And it works on the same area
raw crane
Okay I check
stoic island
bruh
14900k? It'll probably kill your PSU before it plays genshin >:)
Yes
@little osprey remember basil?
:P
heh
But seriously, there are some 9700k probably won't get 240 in, like say ark, rust, rdr2,
or particularly CPU heavy strategy titles
like any Paradox games
most fps games it'll be fine
other than maybe wz/cw
those are a bit heavier
fleet pagoda
Ist there a way to get more storage on ps5
azure lion
wait for the update to use the nvme slot idk, just guessing tbh
fossil cedar
Ist there a way to get more storage on ps5
To store ps4 games you can use an external hard drive/ssd for ps5 games you need to wait for the update that recognises m.2 ssds that you can add
fossil cedar
Yes
wicked frigate
Ok
fossil cedar
Although probs very overpriced
wicked frigate
How good would it be
fossil cedar
Good, but what price is it?
rich helm
Better to go 3600 cl16 and oc
fossil cedar
Idk
It's 2x the price of 3600cl16 not worth, you can overclock it yourself if you really want to
rich helm
Yes
uneven oar
Better to go 3600 cl16 and oc
are you talking price wise or in general?
rich helm
are you talking price wise or in general?
Price wise
wicked frigate
What about I. General
rich helm
In general the cl14 would be better cause it should xmp to that timing
wicked frigate
Ok
fossil cedar
Yes but i wouldn't pay for 3600cl14 because it's 2x the price of 3600cl16 and only worth mb 15 20$ more really, just oc it yourself usually
uneven oar
i mean if you have cash to blow then go for it
wicked frigate
Lol
celest sun
i mean if you have cash to blow then go for it
High five for disposable incomes!
fresh compass
Hey guys what should I do if my cpu cooler (ryzen 7 3700x) stock cooler shows plug in cm device to get started
fossil cedar
Hey guys what should I do if my cpu cooler (ryzen 7 3700x) stock cooler shows pl...
You might have your cooler plugged not into the cpu fan header that could be why
muted patio
Need both cables on it
Fan is plugged in but you need the USB cable for it also
Plugged into a USB 2.0 header on the bottom of the motherboard
wicked frigate
Guys just wondering in pc part picker can you write where you got the part from
fossil cedar
You can add a custom part if your logged in
potent portal
distant spoke
Can someone halp me plz My PC's perfectly functioning m.2 stopped functioning after I tried to add a new m.2 into the second slot on my asus z390a motherboard
muted patio
Which m.2
cursive walrus
so im trying my first ever build and i kinda need some help on if its good or not
can anyone help me?
muted patio
Everything says purchased so it's a bit late now yeah?
cursive walrus
i found someones build and worked off it
muted patio
Oh
cursive walrus
and this was one that i found suiting for my price range
distant spoke
And an intel 660p 1tb
muted patio
Instead of 212 get Vetroo V5, cheaper, RGB and better cooler. If oyu're not getting an INtel K CPU, get a B560 Motherboard instead. Z490 is only needed for overclockable K CPU
cursive walrus
i have no idea what any of that is but i will look for that stuff
cursive walrus
ok
muted patio
And an intel 660p 1tb
Reading the manual
cursive walrus
is this good?
distant spoke
The m.2s are a intel 660p 1tb and a crucial p2 2280 500gb
cursive walrus
for motherboard
muted patio
The m.2s are a intel 660p 1tb and a crucial p2 2280 500gb
I saw that, what CPU is it
cursive walrus
also i cant find the fan you mentioned
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8fmz7
This would be a good bit better if it's for gaming and you don't need the 8 cores https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rsyxvf
cursive walrus
ok
fossil cedar
A 3060 ti if possible
cursive walrus
im trying for something that can run my vr headset at a very good speed
fossil cedar
But either or
cursive walrus
i play beat saber alot and my current setup is kinda laggy
fossil cedar
Ahh yeah probs just easier to build new pc then
fossil cedar
Get the gpu first
Dont buy from a scalper tho
Use newegg shuffle and best buy pretty much
cursive walrus
yeah
wicked frigate
Does anyone know if sn850 comes with a warranty
rich helm
Does anyone know if sn850 comes with a warranty
All decent ssds come with warranty
fossil cedar
Wouldn't bother getting sn850 tho
fossil cedar
A pilot e or sn750 wont be noticeable difference i would say
round stream
is there a difference in mushkin helio somehting and pilot
fossil cedar
WOn't notice at all
I was thinking maybe if they were doing large file transfers all the time but that's it
muted patio
Yes, pilot faster
round stream
how do you compare if its faster
fossil cedar
Better read write and iops
wicked frigate
Does anyone know sn850 warranty or no?
fossil cedar
Does anyone know sn850 warranty or no?
Probs 2 years
round stream
oh ok
wicked frigate
Ok
fossil cedar
Does anyone know sn850 warranty or no?
But get a pilot e instead
fossil cedar
Probs 2 years
5 year apparently
wicked frigate
How do u finds that out
fossil cedar
Wait i think I'm mixing stuff up I'm not 100% sure but it should be in the specs
But a pilot e or sn750 is all you need
wicked frigate
I see
I mean sn850 is on a sale rn
$55 off
Does anyone know how I can return a part to Newegg
fossil cedar
Where?
fossil cedar
Does anyone know how I can return a part to Newegg
Go to the returns tab?
muted patio
Even on sale it's overpriced
wicked frigate
Do I have to call them cause I bought it a while ago but it had a warranty
rich helm
In orders
wicked frigate
But I bought before o had a acc
fossil cedar
But I bought before o had a acc
How did you buy something without an account?
fossil cedar
Then go to your emails mb?
muted patio
Like, go here and choose how you want to do it. https://kb.newegg.com/knowledge-base/contacting-customer-service/
ON the right
shell vortex
is this a good one https://pcpartpicker.com/user/kbtheprogamer/saved/g2gPFT
shell vortex
ok
muted patio
$350 for a 1050TI is too much
wicked frigate
You don’t have to pay that much for windows
shell vortex
oh yeah
wicked frigate
Just get an oem key
shell vortex
ok
shell vortex
ok
fossil cedar
is this a good one https://pcpartpicker.com/user/kbtheprogamer/saved/g2gPFT
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CCJt2V use this and use the integrated gpu until you can get a 3060 or 3060 ti
shell vortex
ok
desert gulch
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CCJt2V use this and use the integrated gpu until y...
Vetroo v5 is 23 bucks rn iirc, and don't get mp33, get a sn550
Ye wegg has it for 22.99
fossil cedar
Vetroo v5 is 23 bucks rn iirc, and don't get mp33, get a sn550
The perform the same iirc and didn't know vetroo was on sale
wicked frigate
Can someone so a 3000 dollar build???
fossil cedar
No