I think that's what I have since it was like $1-2 cheaper than mx4 was on amazon
#building-and-recc-chat
topaz void
odd cosmos
uhd 750
shut rampart
brb speaking of download got to update my gpu drivers
odd cosmos
really
in the intel graphics command center
it tells me to install a driver
lemme take a scrreen shot
muted patio
Huh, Intel direct website says none available
odd cosmos
it was updated on the 16th of april
odd cosmos
um i cant upload the screen shot hold up and lemem check that
yea thats the number
right
muted patio
SO that's the current one then
odd cosmos
yea but i dont seem to have that installed
given that it keeps telling me that i need to install it
lol
odd cosmos
um lemme check that as well, but it seems to be different from the status in intell graphics command center
muted patio
driver tab
muted patio
Try dl and install this https://www.guru3d.com/files-get/intel-hd-graphics-driver-download-4590,19.html
Hmmm
mebbe not LOL
brb again
muted patio
odd cosmos
lol k
muted patio
9466
odd cosmos
kay
the igx pin?
done, and restarted
but still the same graphic driver
27.20.100.9415
uh
muted patio
Wat lol
muted patio
Weird.......
odd cosmos
alright
trail socket
Just finished adding the 7th monitor to my fiance's rig (top monitor). These are mostly old monitors save for the 1080p acer in the center of them all.
odd cosmos
there arent any performance difference right?
muted patio
Nah
muted patio
Not until a new one is released maybe
odd cosmos
kk
trail socket
Her main displays are handled by RX 2070 Super, extra monitors by a Radeon RX570.
topaz void
Lol yea I was about to ask how you drive that many monitors on 1 gpu
odd cosmos
aye nice but may i ask, why do you have so many monitors ๐
topaz void
aye nice but may i ask, why do you have so many monitors ๐
why not?
trail socket
I chose to get an RX570 on ebay because I using two different generation nvidia cards is a pain. By using Nvidia and radeon, we can upgrade either card without conflicts.
odd cosmos
idk, just doesn't seem right to have your entire pov covered by monitors
trail socket
She works for ModSquad and by extension epic games, she is part of the team that audits stuff posted to the unreal engine marketplace.
With all the stuff she has to have open, this was the "best" solution.
2 more will be added soon too.
topaz void
That's fair having a lot of ultrawides is probably really expensive
trail socket
Yeah, most of these monitors are from clients that were tossing them (I do PC repair for a managed IT company)
topaz void
That's fair
trail socket
My rig only has two.
topaz void
Free stuff is always nice
trail socket
Two old fart monitors. I really want a 1440p Ultrawide.
topaz void
Just a year ago I had a 900p monitor and a 4:3 720p monitor. Now I have two 1080p monitors and its so nice lol
trail socket
I think for Christmas I am going to replace her main monitor with a 1440p display and, finally get my ultrawide and essentially upgrade her two 'side' monitors with 1080p displays.
The one portrat monitor works better than we ever thought because of a specific Excel spreadsheet she has to fill out with each report. it fits perfectly lol
topaz void
nice, I tried using my 900p 20" monitor in portrait once and it was too narrow to be of any use lol
trail socket
yeah 900p is a bit tight for that.
This is what I had to do to mount her top monitor. The monitor mount needed better weight distribution on this drywall wall.
topaz void
Yea glad to be done with that lol. My whole setup has gotten a huge upgrade in the past year. The only thing I haven't upgraded is my mouse and I honestly have no intention to since it works great
Yea that can be hard unless you're able to hit a stud
trail socket
She runs a Ryzen 7 2600, I run a 6th gen i7
cursive wharf
Two old fart monitors. I really want a 1440p Ultrawide.
If you want UW-QHD on a budget, I'd go MSI tbf. AOC got some nice ones too, but the freesync doesnt like Nvidia
trail socket
If you want UW-QHD on a budget, I'd go MSI tbf. AOC got some nice ones too, but ...
I was specifically looking at the G34WQC from Gigabyte I heard reports that it works with G-Sync
topaz void
a lot of newer freesync monitors will have a "G-Sync compatible" certification that I believe means they were tested by Nvidia
trail socket
I kick myself every day because months ago the G34WQC was going for 399
fast wagon
Didnt have front fan RGB for a week or so but I finally got it working!
woeful lava
Looks good
kindred temple
Posted my part list I am looking to build the other day, but made some changes again and want to make sure im still not doing anything too dumb.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXrr8J
rugged copper
Yo i need help with my jank intel build
I cant get it to recognize my gt 220
No im not trolling
kindred temple
I already have the GPU and CPU (so long as I can fix a few bent pins), but I reduced from an ATX to a mATX and opted for A520 as I dont need PCIE4
rugged copper
Posted my part list I am looking to build the other day, but made some changes a...
U sure u wanna do microATX mobo/case?
Ah
muted patio
I cant get it to recognize my gt 220
What motherboard?
kindred temple
@rugged copper yeah was looking into it and I don't need more than one PCIe lane really
kindred temple
I cant get it to recognize my gt 220
are drivers still supported for that lol
muted patio
It needs to be a UEFI compliant GPU to work with modern motherboards, FYI. That means GT640 or newer.
rugged copper
What motherboard?
idk, it came from an old OEM
I build PCs a lot, and these are all parts I had lying around that I decided to use to make an office PC for my mom
muted patio
yeah, it's a UEFI compliance thing
The GT220 isn't UEFI compliant
So no worky
is the most likely case
muted patio
I know right
kindred temple
yeah... im playing on a 465 right now lol
muted patio
Terrible
rugged copper
only other GPU I have rn is a 3070 which I'm not putting in this build
kindred temple
got lucky with 2070 evga b stockand its on its way
muted patio
The other crappy part is that Windows 10 doens't like Legacy booting now after some updates
So that's kind of not an option anymore either
solid dust
So on fans, the air goes towards the logo and out the side with the back supports right?
solid dust
Thanks
acoustic cypress
Hello Newbie, I need help with a build. I have lots of experience building. Newbie to Discord. My problem I have a Z590 AORUS ULTRA motherboard. I cannot find a AIO cooler that the backing plate fits the LGA 1200 socket. All AIO that I have purchased so far, the backing plate is to big. The three were CORSAIR, the other two Cool Master.
muted patio
It shouldn't be, I'm checking tho
yeah, that should fit LGA1200 no problem
You sure you're using the right backplate?
Any AIO that fits LGA1151 should work with LGA 1200
Backplates are the same
acoustic cypress
The kit comes with three backing plates two AMD and one LGA 115x and 1366 and 1200
muted patio
Yeah, the 115x should fit without issues. do you have a picture by chance?
muted patio
Well, you can't post it in here yet due to ranks so DM it to me, if you don't mind. I think 8 MB is the limit
acoustic cypress
Can do, if you don't mind
muted patio
I don't ๐
acoustic cypress
TY
solid dust
So I have a 3 to one wire for my fan power. The single cord is 4 pin female, and the 3 splits are 2 3 pin male and one 4 pin male that is red. Does it matter what fans the 4 pin plugs into? These are all output fans, not hooked up to a rad or anything
queen dagger
so i have the choice between a 10700k or a 10900k. which one should i get? I would be pairing it with a 3080, so im not sure which. im also not sure two more cores is worth like $150. imma go to bed, ill respond in the morning if i get any responces
desert gulch
so i have the choice between a 10700k or a 10900k. which one should i get? I wou...
I'd say it rly depends on what you would like to do with it, for mainly gaming and even streaming I'd say 10700k would be the better option in terms of value, while if you want to do a lot of multitasking and productivity workloads that can take advantage of 10 cores, 10900k would be a better choice imo
elfin moss
I'm updating my bios atm, using 5600x, fresh build
Just got into the boot screen, and it had told us to insert a boot media device and press a key
vagrant olive
is an h510 okay to use for a build for a person who wont be doing any strenuous tasks
not gonna get them a p360a bc they dont want rgb
little osprey
not gonna get them a p360a bc they dont want rgb
still
p360a
theres a no fan version no?
patent gyro
robust lake
None
jagged ember
Both are the cost of an entire pc
tight sorrel
Both are the cost of an entire pc
not in south africa theyre not
shut rampart
I wonder if vintageracer79 is on
stoic island
vintage is around somewhere
shut rampart
oh you are here
stoic island
hi
shut rampart
I have 1k to spend and wanted to upgrade my pc, vintage told me to buy this
but I was wondering i can switch the 5600x to a 5800x
stoic island
What do you currently have?
shut rampart
stoic island
You could, but 5800x is just kinda wack pricing
robust lake
You dont realy need new ram
stoic island
ballistix
stoic island
But ripjaw 3600c16 will work if ballistix is out of stock
shut rampart
I think 16g is fine
stoic island
ye
shut rampart
also about the mvne
shut rampart
can I switch that out for Western Digital BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB
shut rampart
my friend has one and he can sell me one for like 50 bucks
stoic island
1tb?
stoic island
Contact them about it, and how much the drive has been used
shut rampart
can't I just delete the used drive
shut rampart
what about that mean
shut rampart
and how can I fine that out
shut rampart
it should be brand new, he told me that he just install windows on it and 1-3 games
sullen spoke
crystal disk anime edition
stoic island
As long as that's true
full atlas
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkZwbh how is this 200$ list?
full atlas
Case will be run no front panel FYI
stoic island
@full atlas switch ssd plz
full atlas
Bc it had a full mesh dust filter
full atlas
<@!482708148613021696> switch ssd plz
Why?
stoic island
well
sullen spoke
scary ssd
shut rampart
any upgrade to the CPU fan
full atlas
Hmmm
sullen spoke
stock good enough for stock
shut rampart
what about the case do you think the case need upgrading
shut rampart
solid front panel
sullen spoke
Just put on cardboard box, no case needed
stoic island
It's a cost you can consider if you want aesthetics
stoic island
for like P400a/P500a/TD500 mesh
not necessary but could be nice to have
Lancool ii mesh
CM H500
those kinda things
stoic island
no
I didn't forget about it
@pine kayak I purposely left it out
like 4000d
need at least one more fan imo
and doesn't make sense when the case is like 95$ nowadays
pine kayak
you can buy more
stoic island
just 5$ more and you get a td500 mesh
with all the fans included
:P
it's too annoying to deal with adding more fans depending on mobo
shut rampart
im guessing a = mesh
pine kayak
still i have meshify c and td500 and both are great case also if you need a smaller case go with the meshify c
stoic island
no
shut rampart
naw it doesn't have the mesh
shut rampart
well anyways thanks for your help
stoic island
:)
shut rampart
for the upgrade vintage and you listed how much dedicated ram will i get
stoic island
What are you planning to do with the computer?
There is budget leftover if you want more ram
shut rampart
minecraft
shut rampart
hmm
sullen spoke
Ram for mc?
shut rampart
yes
sullen spoke
16 is plenty Iโd say
shut rampart
what about how much faster will this pc be with the upgrades
stoic island
depends on mods but ye
shut rampart
I have alot of mods install in minecraft
sullen spoke
The only time I had ram issues with mc on 16gb was when I had 300+ mods and there was a memory leak
shut rampart
how fast will my pc be with all of these upgrade do you know?
stoic island
5600x be speeed
wicked frigate
Hey guys are the ll120 sleeved bearing fans
stoic island
should be mag lev iirc
ornate locust
magnetic levitation
uneven oar
@wicked frigate you really shouldnt need to run all your fans at 100% all the time
If you are using the corsair fans, you can control them via iCue and their default profiles should be good for a baseline, and adjust from there. Not everyone's case and setup are the same. For example, my default LL's in the front went to quiet, profile, but my back I changes to a balanced profile. My two top AIO fans (ML's) are running balanced to push air out, but could go quiet since the difference at that temp is around 100 rpms
wicked frigate
Ok thx
frank stirrup
cold sorrel
Eh, I think 8 GB RAM is reaching the point where it's just inadequate. My laptop has 12 GB (yeah, weird config but that what it shipped with) and I'm feeling it struggle in places these days.
muted patio
Eh, I think 8 GB RAM is reaching the point where it's just inadequate. My laptop...
It is for a good portion of things nowadays
odd cosmos
do y'all know if EVGA ships to canada?
fossil cedar
They probs have a canadian site so yeah?
odd cosmos
um can't seem to find em lol
wait no, they dont have a offical canada site lol
and the stuff is like 20% expensive here in cad than the us ahhhh
celest sun
It is for a good portion of things nowadays
8 is okay... but def has it's limits. Basically can't game at all
odd cosmos
lol, that was the cheapest one i found it's actually fine ?
round stream
how does gddr6 numbers effect quality
little osprey
mm
higher res and higher fidelity = more usage of vram
wont always determine a cards performance tho
round stream
oh ok
muted patio
More curious as to what they mean by numbers
round stream
so if you have like 24 gb u can have like 10 monitors?
muted patio
Like, ram size? bus width?
little osprey
so if you have like 24 gb u can have like 10 monitors?
amt of monitors wont affect performance
muted patio
so if you have like 24 gb u can have like 10 monitors?
You can do that many monitors with less ram
little osprey
just the apps you have running
little osprey
no
muted patio
VRAM is ram for the GPU
little osprey
^
round stream
ohh
muted patio
Video RAM
round stream
ok
little osprey
gpu is like its own computer tbh
muted patio
Textures use it
hallow glen
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyTYZZ 3070 bundled with the psu
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyTYZZ 3070 bundled with the psu
Through out the pay actually goes on fire
fossil cedar
Psu*
hallow glen
well fine i will add the value of the psu to the gpu and get another one
fossil cedar
Yeah
hallow glen
rev df
fossil cedar
Good psu
hallow glen
ok i can still afford it
i might have to use my old monitor untill I have enough for another
fossil cedar
๐
hallow glen
r u competitive
visual tundra
Planning to
hallow glen
so u need 144 hz
visual tundra
My monitor can run 144 its just im confused cause of the hdmi
hallow glen
u probably need display port. what is ur gpu
hallow glen
talk to vintage im dumb
visual tundra
Amd 5500xt
hallow glen
mr vintage @muted patio can u talk to this man
visual tundra
Lmao
scenic turret
Not sure HDMI 1.4 supports 144hz, recommending to use the display port
I think it has a dp 1.2 which can easily hit 144
visual tundra
Ok
muted patio
HDMI 1.4 should do 144hz at 1440p
scenic turret
Oh does it
muted patio
Yes
scenic turret
Maybe mixing up with 1.2 nvm my bad
muted patio
Crap, looks like it's 1080p 144hz
1440p is 100hz
or 85hz
Def need 2.0 or DP for it
My bad
scenic turret
The monitor the guy has is 1080p 144
muted patio
It should handle that then yes
muted patio
I'm thinking desktop settings, yeah
visual tundra
So its fine ?
muted patio
Did you check on desktop display settings what the Windows refresh rate is set to?
HDMI 1.4 is fine for 1080p 144
Provided it's an actual HDMI 1.4 cable
fossil cedar
Imo dp better because of latch and better res and frame rates, well at least it used to anyway
marble seal
theres a few 3090s too i think
autumn wolf
dont have the money to buy a card but am trying to at least get it in my cart 
autumn wolf
managed to get it in my cart but said out of stock at checkout
at least i got it in my cart like i wanted
am happy
fossil cedar
dont have the money to buy a card but am trying to at least get it in my cart <:...
Not me filling out the VAG quiz even tho i aint gonna buy a 6800xt plus shipping to ireland :/
wicked frigate
I need help choosing out an monitor
stoic island
What budget
stoic island
What GPU
stoic island
Gigabyte M27q to start I'd say
stoic island
Eh
M27q is 1440p170hz for 330$
About double the price for 1440p240hz
Smth like FI27Q-X is 700$ for 1440p240hz
little osprey
can i uhm send a pc link in here, and you guys rate if its worth the money?
ig not
wicked frigate
I see
little osprey
how abt a pic?
stoic island
Pic needs lvl 3
wicked frigate
@stoic island
stoic island
Just chat a bit until you have lvl 3
wicked frigate
I need help pick out an mic
wicked frigate
For gaming
stoic island
Mic? Ask ghosty about mics
sullen spoke
Why am i ping
stoic island
Mic
sullen spoke
Wat budget
wicked frigate
Umm donโt have
muted patio
You don't know how much you want to spend??
sullen spoke
Haha ok
sullen spoke
Im going to assume usb?
echo vale
at2020?
sullen spoke
Well for usb there are some nice option. For dynamic mics the samson q2u is a nice usb/xlr hybrid. The condenser in similar price is hyperx solocast. If you want to go a little more expensive the elgato wave 1 is a fantastic usb condenser mic
sullen spoke
Dynamic is closer range and pick up less bg noise, condenser is wider and pick up more noise. So like concerts and podcasts yse dynamics, studios use condensers
wicked frigate
I want really good mic quality and it to pick up no background noise
sullen spoke
The other option is XLR setup which can be considerably more expensive because you need a usb interface. Cheaper xlr setups would be like a m track solo with a behringer xm8500.
Keeping in mind that dynamics pick up less noise but you have to make sure you are close to them, the samson q2u and the audio technica atr2005usb are nice usb dynamics that have the option of being used with a xlr interface if you wish to upgrade to xlr down the road
wicked frigate
What do most gamers use usb?
sullen spoke
Most gamers use headsets, 3.5mm or usb. XLR starts to go into professional/prosumer range
wicked frigate
Ok
Which one would u recommend if I went with usb/XLE
I just want really good quality and no background noise to pick up cause I have a lot of nacreous d noise
Backroad
sullen spoke
The Q2U is a favorite to many being not that expensive, good sound for the price, and the option of upgrading to xlr. It has good scalability. The only downside ive seen with the q2u is if you use usb and touch the empty xlr port it can make some static interference but that is all.
sullen spoke
There is a 3 prong xlr port on the back. If you use usb and you touch the prongs with your finger it can static. My friend always likes to jumpscare me with it xD
sullen spoke
The big circular port is xlr
wicked frigate
I see
Does it come with a stand
Is there a better on than that for little bit more
sullen spoke
The atr2005usb is similar style a bit more but i cant remember exactly how it compared to the q2u. Other than that there arent many other usb dynamics i can think of in the price
And that listing on b&h comes with a tripod stand
sullen spoke
The most popular usb/xlr are q2u, atr2005usb, m7v in order from least to most expensive i believe. All dynamics
wicked frigate
Ok
Out of those 3 which one is the best
Sound wise
God quality
Good
And no background noise
So I have to buy a mic stand separately
sullen spoke
Best quality is the m7v. The m7v is basically the usb/xlr version of the shure sm7b
sullen spoke
Some of them dont come with stands there are also bundles in some places
sullen spoke
You can look up reviews. Thats not exactly how it works but basically especially with dynamics, the closer you are the less bg noise
muted patio
Background noise depends on where you're recording, not the mic lol
wicked frigate
Ok
sullen spoke
That is also true
There is also geforce broadcast for bg noise if you have modern nvidia gpu
sullen spoke
Depends how much to spend. I think the q2u is best for the money
wicked frigate
I wanna spend no more than -00
100
Any better ones than the q2u
Or is that it
sullen spoke
You can check reviews, but for dynamic usb is definitely one of the best under 100
sullen spoke
Here is one right at 99usd if interested https://youtu.be/tblhobnggJw
fossil cedar
There is also geforce broadcast for bg noise if you have modern nvidia gpu
Rtx voice is an absolute godsent for my friends on discord because of my keyboard
sullen spoke
At around 5:30 he compares to q2u
wicked frigate
WhT about the atr2005
sullen spoke
I cant really say. I havent listened to that one in a while and im not at my pc
wicked frigate
Ok so my options are q2u or the
ATR
One
Who h one would u recommend
Here will u be ok if I dm u if I have more questions
clear moat
They make aios for 3080 yet?
stoic island
They make hybrid 3080's
clear moat
Wym
stoic island
like this
clear moat
Prebult tho?
clear moat
Sorry my mistake
stoic island
and also, I seriously don't recommend doing the old strat of grabbing the nzxt bracket with a cpu aio, since this gen has hawt vram that should be cooled well
clear moat
Going to change out thermal pads today
Will update with memory junction yemps
Temps
stoic island
(bracket thing in question)
stoic island
nzxt's bracket thingy
topaz void
Lol yea I saw that on newegg the other day and they don't give any sort of details on compatibility and just the whole thing seems like a bad idea lol
lyric thistle
what does it even do lol
stoic island
basically lets you mount a normal CPU aio on a GPU
lyric thistle
it has afan
topaz void
It's so you can mount a kraken
muted patio
Goes on GPU to let you mount an AIO to it
lyric thistle
oh
muted patio
Fan is for VRM and VRAM
lyric thistle
huh
stoic island
ya
lyric thistle
interesting
topaz void
I thought DDR5 was supposed to be lower power but maybe I'm just dumb
fossil cedar
Gonna need to start putting 20mm fans on your ddr5 vram XD
fossil cedar
I thought DDR5 was supposed to be lower power but maybe I'm just dumb
It's more efficient but it runs faster so
topaz void
It's more efficient but it runs faster so
That's fair, I guess I should have realized that when I literally watched ltt's video today about the GDDR6X overheating on 3090's
fossil cedar
Yeah course it was zotac and 100c gaming lol
stoic island
there's also heat tolerance
fossil cedar
Yep like g6x being able to go up to 105-110
topaz void
I think micron has the ideal operating temp in the 90s though if i remember right from the video
stoic island
topaz void
Ok so I was right about Micron saying operating temps is 0-95C. This is from their site
fossil cedar
Ok so I was right about Micron saying operating temps is 0-95C. This is from the...
It's not supposed to throttle till 105ish anyway, that's what I've heard anyway
topaz void
That I'm not sure of I just knew listed operating temps were 95
stoic island
and with OCing, it usually scales as higher clocks with lower temps
topaz void
I thought it's been confirmed for a while
fossil cedar
I mean we all knew about it already anyway for at least a few weeks thanks to msi
topaz void
I thought it was just no date
Ah that's what it was it was good old' loose lips sink ships msi
fossil cedar
I thought it was just no date
No date yet but some leaks that came out yesterday or something was may 26th
topaz void
that's fair
fossil cedar
True but it's hardly a typo on the crates
stoic island
(specs wise)
topaz void
I also think msi literally had something online too not even the crates
stoic island
There's a big difference between knowing it exists and knowing what exactly it is
imo
topaz void
Oh msi had a listing for a 3080 ti ventus 3x oc on a polish retailer
muted patio
wat
topaz void
Had to use a vpn to put myself in poland but its still up
muted patio
Sus
topaz void
suposedly they're a pretty big retailer in poland๐คทโโ๏ธ
topaz void
So I'd say it's a pretty solid confirmation for at the very least 12 GB of GDDR6X
stoic island
who knows tho
muted patio
Maybe. Trust nothing until it happens lol.
stoic island
didn't the 3070ti get listed by Lenovo for a while, and then turn out to not be real?
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
fossil cedar
It's the 3050 ti with 12gb vram like 3060 
stoic island
either way, Nvidia announcement w specs will be neat
topaz void
Oh yea for sure, I guess my comment was more just there seems to be a lot of leaks or hints implying it is in fact coming
stoic island
fair
fossil cedar
Paper launch ๐
topaz void
Paper launch ๐
Oh for sure
fossil cedar
wE hAvE mOrE cArDs tHiS tImE
topaz void
wE hAvE mOrE cArDs tHiS tImE
It still kills me that AMD made a big stink of actually having stock unlike nvidia and now their cards are significantly rarer
fossil cedar
Yep lol
topaz void
also speaking of gpu launches did intel ever set a date?
fossil cedar
Not yet
topaz void
Watch turns out intel never had a gpu it was just so people would keep talking about intel and they hoped it would help their cpu sales
topaz void
I mean they've pulled the plug on a gpu devision before why not again? lol
fossil cedar
Too far invested at this point i think
topaz void
That's fair. It'll be interesting to see how they actually stack up
fossil cedar
Like same thing with 11th gen i7 and i9 i believe gotta recoup some r&d costs
fossil cedar
Roood
hallow glen
buh
odd cosmos
how do you all know the amount of power your system is pulling?
cold sorrel
Odd question. Can I install the fans in my case before I put the mobo in or is that a bad idea?
muted patio
I would put the mobo in first, especially if you're putting fans in the top of the case.
cold sorrel
Sorry I'm asking a barrage of weird/dumb questions. Trying to get the nerve up to finally assemble everything.
odd cosmos
Sorry I'm asking a barrage of weird/dumb questions. Trying to get the nerve up t...
lol i thought i asked stupid questions, they are all pretty nice so thanks to everyone here!
round stream
how do you all know the amount of power your system is pulling?
pcpartpicker?
go 100w more cus oc and stuff
muted patio
how do you all know the amount of power your system is pulling?
Check CPU and GPU tests
odd cosmos
yeye, but idk how to actualy check it in real time
muted patio
Anandtech and Tomshardware do the hard work
They have testing that shows total wattage pulled in a system
Like, some 65W CPU will pull 200W lol
cold sorrel
I guess after supper I'm pulling the mobo out and will start attaching things. At least CPU/RAM should be relatively painless.
odd cosmos
oh where can i download them?
muted patio
Download the testing?
Just google something 11600K power draw toms or something like that
muted patio
Oh
odd cosmos
lol
muted patio
What cpu
odd cosmos
I guess after supper I'm pulling the mobo out and will start attaching things. A...
gl!
cold sorrel
The CPU cooler will make me nervous... so will actually putting the mobo into the case. Be a lot of "don't drop it, don't drop it" running through my head.
muted patio
11500
For Intel, use Intel Power Gadget https://software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/develop/articles/intel-power-gadget.html
odd cosmos
kay thanks!
odd cosmos
The CPU cooler will make me nervous... so will actually putting the mobo into th...
depending on the size of the case, i think its easier to put the fan on before hand, but remember to check if you can
round stream
is the segotep better than the enermax df
odd cosmos
just felt easier for me and my case provided enough space for it lol
muted patio
Unless you have a big case, mobo always first
muted patio
is the segotep better than the enermax df
No
odd cosmos
Unless you have a big case, mobo always first
think he was talking about the cpu fan lol
muted patio
think he was talking about the cpu fan lol
TaliaKirana โ Today at 4:32 PM
Odd question. Can I install the fans in my case before I put the mobo in or is that a bad idea?
odd cosmos
i was saying that (if he could) it might be easier to put the cpu cooler onto the mob before putting it on
TaliaKirana โ Today at 7:38 PM
The CPU cooler will make me nervous... so will actually putting the mobo into the case. Be a lot of "don't drop it, don't drop it" running through my head.
cold sorrel
I was indeed talking case fans there. I was removing the default case fan to replace it with a pack of RGB fans.
odd cosmos
oh yea sorry, misunderstanding, i was replying to your second statement lol
cold sorrel
Because all my fans must match
odd cosmos
For Intel, use Intel Power Gadget https://software.intel.com/content/www/us/en/d...
got it open, and it seems to work well, but im concered as to why my cpu is pulling 30W + doing pretty much nothing
considering that they can only pull 65 max
muted patio
Cuz that's how it goes
Oh, 65W is FAR from MAX
That only applies to base clock
NOt boost clock
Hence why I said a 65W TDP CPU can pull 200W
odd cosmos
oh but it cant overclock though, or are we talkng about different things?
muted patio
TDP means literally nothing
odd cosmos
welp lol
muted patio
So if a processor is 3.5 ghz base and 4.8 ghz boost
The 65W only applies to the 3.5ghz speed
odd cosmos
OH
muted patio
4.8 ghz boost will pulll more
odd cosmos
thats how it works alright
and is there any way to get the total power draw of the entire system?
fossil cedar
The best way to calc your power usage is get one of those power measure brick things tbh
muted patio
With a KillaWatt meter plugged into the wall
odd cosmos
oh yea i was about to mention it!
muted patio
and your PC plugged into that
odd cosmos
alright, should i buy one?
fossil cedar
With a KillaWatt meter plugged into the wall
Yeah that's the name of it
muted patio
Honestly, just tell us your CPU and GPU and we can tell max power draw
odd cosmos
kay
i really wanted to see how much power my system uses live since it was kinda interesting but alright ig
muted patio
11500 with no gpu yeah
eternal igloo
Is a lian li 205m a good matx case?
worn wave
For the price its alright yes
azure yew
hey new here have a quick ? my Cpu and its fan just shat all over my day and now i need to rebuild the GPU and the Ram Survived aswell as the Hard Drive Motherboard is outdated so its gone and the power supply is iffy my initial though was to get a pre build that had a good CPU, Motherboard, and Power supply and switch out the GPU https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-570-rx-570-armor-mk2-8g-oc/p/N82E16814137291and add my Ram does anyone have any recommendations
muted patio
i really wanted to see how much power my system uses live since it was kinda int...
I mean, you can buy a killawatt meter if you want. Or just compare to these tests. https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-11400f/20.html
eternal igloo
For the price its alright yes
Do u have any other suggestions for matx cases?
odd cosmos
I mean, you can buy a killawatt meter if you want. Or just compare to these test...
kk, the main reason i kinda want to get one is so i can calculate roughly how much power i use and how much it cost. Then decide if its worth getting something like a 3080 to make back some of its cost through mining
muted patio
Oh, you'll def do that mining
Go to Nicehash
They have a calculator that inlcudes electricity costs
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odd cosmos
oh alright
desert gulch
I mean, you can buy a killawatt meter if you want. Or just compare to these test...
Ye but ig if they want to measure power input before it's thru the psu then killawat is the best way
muted patio
Just need to know your cost per KW/h
desert gulch
Since psu isn't fully efficient
odd cosmos
but im trying to decide if a overpriced 30 series card is worth it
desert gulch
Depends
muted patio
relatively inconsequential
desert gulch
80+ white
fossil cedar
but im trying to decide if a overpriced 30 series card is worth it
Look at nicehash calc
muted patio
heh
muted patio
not as much as you think
odd cosmos
ye alright lemme go check it out
canadian power costs are also weird
mining at night actually might be worth it
my area has some complicated power costs lol
fossil cedar
I mine 24/7 and we have a night meter because electric car, at night it's half price pretty much
desert gulch
Still only 5%
Non 80+ vs 80+ plat gives you some difference then
round stream
can you mine with a mac
odd cosmos
nvm it's too complicated dont even know how it works
desert gulch
Assuming non 80+ is below 80+ white
muted patio
24/7365 full load
desert gulch
What specs?
fossil cedar
Non 80+ vs 80+ plat gives you some difference then
Try find a psu that's under 80+ white
muted patio
with everything in it, 7 fans, AIO, 3700x, 3070, 90% load 24/7, 7 drives, etc
desert gulch
Try find a psu that's under 80+ white
Wish.com, random ebay
muted patio
and 2 onitors
desert gulch
with everything in it, 7 fans, AIO, 3700x, 3070, 90% load 24/7, 7 drives, etc
Uhhh like full year cost?
desert gulch
Whats price per kilowatt there?
desert gulch
20 bucks
muted patio
Ya
fossil cedar
Wish.com, random ebay
Still seriously you don't make back the jump from bronze to titanium or plat in like 5 years
desert gulch
Mhmm
odd cosmos
welp they havent updated for the 11th gen intel calculations
fossil cedar
Gold to plat, $6 a year
But usually like 50$ more for plat or titanium
muted patio
Or even more
odd cosmos
or am i doing something wrong?
fossil cedar
welp they havent updated for the 11th gen intel calculations
You wanted to mine on your cpu?
muted patio
or am i doing something wrong?
For mining?
use 3080 GPU lol
CPu isn't used for mining
odd cosmos
dont u have to enter your entire build into it?
desert gulch
But usually like 50$ more for plat or titanium
In some places that's worth tho tbh
odd cosmos
like everything?
fossil cedar
Like 30c for a cpu per day
odd cosmos
or just gpu?
muted patio
Should be around like$8 after electricity costs
desert gulch
If electricity is hella expensive or there's not a lot of it
muted patio
$8 a day
muted patio
If electricity is hella expensive or there's not a lot of it
Most expensive power in the country, what is it?
fossil cedar
In some places that's worth tho tbh
Very high electric costs yeah
fossil cedar
Well okay use mine
topaz void
I mean also keep in mind that electricity is billed by the kwh. and at least here it's $0.0984
fossil cedar
20c in Ireland
topaz void
woah power expensive in ireland lol
odd cosmos
is that good?
desert gulch
What's power costs?
fossil cedar
woah power expensive in ireland lol
10c at night tho
muted patio
20c in Ireland
So 0.2 Euro?
fossil cedar
So 0.2 Euro?
Yep
muted patio
So 0.24 USD
odd cosmos
What's power costs?
if u are asking me, i used 0.085 cad for now
fossil cedar
Yeah
muted patio
Even at 0.24 cents per kw/h
Gold to plat is $19 a year
Bronze to Titanium is $50 a year so might be worth it.
Still take a couple years to pay it back tho
fossil cedar
It's acc slightly less cuz my night rate is 10c so works out to .2$ but yeah
fossil cedar
Yeah just cuz
odd cosmos
btw which card is the most efficient at mining?
muted patio
Well yeah
fossil cedar
Still take a couple years to pay it back tho
But also that extra 50$ would price be more 70 over here I'm gonna guess
fossil cedar
3060 ti
muted patio
Regardless, the cost to performance is the same it's just how deep your wallet is
fossil cedar
3060 ti and 3070 mine same
odd cosmos
k lemme check out the availability
muted patio
when it comes to mining
odd cosmos
Regardless, the cost to performance is the same it's just how deep your wallet i...
lmao k
muted patio
Well no it is
muted patio
$10 day for a $1000
fossil cedar
Bronze to Titanium is $50 a year so might be worth it.
Doesn't that also work out for like 100% load tho or not?
muted patio
or $5 a day for $500
muted patio
Doesn't that also work out for like 100% load tho or not?
I did 90% TDP 24/7
Cuz I mine
odd cosmos
$10 day for a $1000
thats not entirely bad actually, say i only mine for 50 days, thats a 500 dollar 3080
muted patio
Ah
Provided the cost of Bitcoin/Eth doesn't go down
If it goes up, great, if it goes down, meh
fossil cedar
a day
It's same perf as 3070, calculations might be a bit messed up because huge price spikes atm
muted patio
$4-5 USD a day
scenic turret
About 5-6 cad a day
muted patio
Is what I'm making with my 3070
odd cosmos
k
scenic turret
In my experience with a 3070
odd cosmos
and thats 24 hours a day right
muted patio
as of this very second I'm making $5.06 a day
scenic turret
Yea pretty much
scenic turret
Eth growing again
muted patio
ye
fossil cedar
I did 90% TDP 24/7
Okay ntb, yeah i mine too but parents pay for electricity anyway (i pay flat rate /month for mining) and just got a gold from a white so should be okay lol
odd cosmos
so just to make sure, you have to mine for 24 hours a day right?
and you cant really use the system while it mines>
muted patio
Okay ntb, yeah i mine too but parents pay for electricity anyway (i pay flat rat...
Yeah, I'm just saying the efficiency doesn't matter a whole lot
fossil cedar
Yeah
muted patio
so just to make sure, you have to mine for 24 hours a day right?
Don't have to, I game with mine as well
but only a couple hours a day
little osprey
titanium if you're using high wattage stuff
rating doesn't really matter if its a rig or two
odd cosmos
Don't have to, I game with mine as well
um, so its a bit less than 5 cad if i use the system a bit
and i think i should prob just mine for like 12 hours since low peak
muted patio
Gold to Plat at 0.24 per KW/h is $20 a year man
fossil cedar
and i think i should prob just mine for like 12 hours since low peak
Mine when not gaming
little osprey
pulling 5KW+?
little osprey
.12
odd cosmos
Mine when not gaming
yea i dont play triple a titles so i dont htink that will be much of an issue
little osprey
i use whatever i can buy
most new miners are starting in cali which is like .20+
iirc
odd cosmos
im worried about high peak since the price is around 0.176 cad kwH
fossil cedar
yea i dont play triple a titles so i dont htink that will be much of an issue
Well you can play Minecraft or whatever but if you mine while gaming at same time experience is meh and you're hash rate halves or more
muted patio
SO gold to plat for my 500W system 24/7 365 90% TDP is $9 a year, multiply that by 10 and it's $90 a year. For how much more cost in PSU's?
fossil cedar
im worried about high peak since the price is around 0.176 cad kwH
That's not as much as me, I'm .24 us snd still make loads
odd cosmos
Well you can play Minecraft or whatever but if you mine while gaming at same tim...
xD, minecraft is pretty much the only game i play, no time for anything else lol
odd cosmos
That's not as much as me, I'm .24 us snd still make loads
oh really
little osprey
SO gold to plat for my 500W system 24/7 365 90% TDP is $9 a year, multiply that ...
you already need to buy specific ones that have enough 8 pins unless you have a scuffed setup so price difference likely isn't much
odd cosmos
the calculator says i make a bit more than 3 cad a day using 3060ti
muted patio
I understand that but add em all up and the cost savings isn't as much as you think it is.
scenic turret
Oh Mando, the 3060ti FE I got yesterday will go in my main rig, going to upgrade the PSU to 1000W and undervolt both cards to mine
muted patio
what other card do you have?
odd cosmos
Yeah still like 4-4.50โฌ ish per day with 3 -4 hours of gaming
not sure if its worth it going out and getting such a overpriced card for mining tho? what do you think?
scenic turret
3070FE
muted patio
I don't think 100W is necessary to mine on those
little osprey
whats original psu
muted patio
Properly set up each card will pull 135W MAX
scenic turret
I don't think 100W is necessary to mine on those
850W fine then?
scenic turret
EVGA G3 850W rn
muted patio
Even if you mine on one while gaming on another
odd cosmos
what are some other factors that might affect the mining efficiencies?
little osprey
yeah just keep that one for now
scenic turret
Oh perfect nice
little osprey
upgrade it if you get a 3080/3090
muted patio
Provided you have enough power cables for them
odd cosmos
i should also probably get a new power supply soon before return window closes xD
fossil cedar
not sure if its worth it going out and getting such a overpriced card for mining...
My 3070 was โฌ720 in a month or so, I've already made 120ish back
odd cosmos
My 3070 was โฌ720 in a month or so, I've already made 120ish back
um seems nice, but i need better psu
muted patio
Gotta remember, mining pulls nowhere near TDP
3060TI and 3070 should be 130-135 W mining
scenic turret
I have plans to convert that build to a mining rig
odd cosmos
how mcuh power does a 3060ti need?
scenic turret
1000W is meant for more cards
muted patio
Less than 200W for a 3060TI
fossil cedar
um seems nice, but i need better psu
I've been running mine on a 600w evga w1 psu until a few days when i get the chance to change cases and psu to 750w
fossil cedar
3060TI and 3070 should be 130-135 W mining
Mine is 120w
odd cosmos
lemme see if i can return it
muted patio
alr, so my 550 is not enough
For a 3060?
muted patio
or 3060TI?
little osprey
its all universal so you don't have useless ports
odd cosmos
really?
muted patio
Provided you have enough PCI-E cables it's fine
odd cosmos
LOL
little osprey
you'd have to fill like every sata port and m.2 slot in order to overload that PSU
odd cosmos
Provided you have enough PCI-E cables it's fine
prob do
odd cosmos
you'd have to fill like every sata port and m.2 slot in order to overload that P...
lol alr
now, finding a gpu..........
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fossil cedar
now, finding a gpu..........
Thars the hard part lol
odd cosmos
yea lol
and there are no other factors that might affect the efficiencies right?
also can cpu mine along with gpu?
little osprey
don't bother
muted patio
CPU mining is terrible
odd cosmos
don't bother
oh
it says the 10th gen i5s can make arond 0.5 cad
a day
so its not terrible
muted patio
Also not worth it. 50 cents a day
odd cosmos
um yea tru alr