building-and-recc-chat

[odd cosmos]

ikik now thankss tho

im so dumb smh

[solid dust]

🤦‍♂️ lmao. That will make it so much easier now lol

[earnest olive]

lol

[livid canopy]

we need a city dump for removed hdd cages

[fading sphinx]

@earnest olive tried one stick nothing

[livid canopy]

i really had to "Work" mine out of my mesh II p

[earnest olive]

remove the sata drive too and try to boot into bios with no drives attached

[livid canopy]

some sata cables are pci laned or is that amd only? that being said since it only has 20x lanes This could be the issue

or sata ports

[earnest olive]

nope

[livid canopy]

so even if they manage a boot on sata

the sec the re-install the pci-e ssd

[earnest olive]

i've had faulty sata device prevent system boot before

[livid canopy]

it may force disable one of the drives to enable pci 16x to gpu

[earnest olive]

...it's a z590 chipset

[livid canopy]

not saying this is what it is but i encountered this on the b550i itx build when i installed a 2nd sata drive pci-e got all jumbled and boot process had it trying to boot from a non win installed drive

[earnest olive]

it has 24 pcie lanes by itself

and the cpu has 16

so he has 40

not the issue

and even if pcie lanes were the issue, sata does not use pcie lanes

[livid canopy]

in my case it switches the lanes/priority depending on which sata connectors are used

still booted etc but gpu was at 8x until i found the right headers to populate

as well as legacy mode or not for the case of the m.2 drive

[fading sphinx]

@earnest olive still nothing tried it without the drive and ram swapping around only thing is the eggs on the board light up

[earnest olive]

eggs?

[livid canopy]

the leds

[earnest olive]

oh

which one?

wait debug leds or rgb

[livid canopy]

perhaps you mounted cpu too tight?

[earnest olive]

no such thing as mounting a cpu too tight

and even if so it was working before

[fading sphinx]

Rgb

[earnest olive]

the socket can't exactly push down on the cpu more than it's designed to

[desert gulch]

ye ye

[earnest olive]

like i guess you could use your hand to mash the cpu into the pins but

then you have bigger problems

[desert gulch]

maybe if you use the wrong socket for ur cpu

and jam it in there

[fading sphinx]

It posted earlier

[earnest olive]

yeah

[desert gulch]

hmmm

[earnest olive]

have you disconnected all peripherals/usb devices?

[fading sphinx]

No I’ll do that now

[earnest olive]

as dumb as it sounds i had a pc refuse to boot due to a faulty usb device... while i was demoing it to the customer

it was very awkward

especially since he was skeptical from the start

he ended up being happy with his rig though

[fading sphinx]

Nothing

Well just the rgb

[earnest olive]

weird

when it posted earlier was that with or without the gpu

try removing the gpu

[fading sphinx]

No it posted with gpu

I’ll try tho

[earnest olive]

hmm

that's really weird that it stopped working now

[fading sphinx]

All I did was turn it off with power button and back on

Still no gonna try jumping it again

Nothing

[earnest olive]

with gpu removed too?

[fading sphinx]

Yea

[earnest olive]

wack

hard to tell what the issue could be now

[fading sphinx]

It’s weird I know the boards getting power and it fired up what the heck

Before*

[odd cosmos]

wait guys, which screws do you use to secure the mob onto the case?

[fading sphinx]

My case came with them

[odd cosmos]

ok i found a thing that shows them but it's gonna be hard ugh

and also, how do y'all find out which one to plug into which port?

[fading sphinx]

The mobo user manual will say where to put everything

Almost everything is self explanatory

As far as plugging in stuff

[odd cosmos]

ok

[fading sphinx]

I dunno I’m gonna take a day brake and come back at it fresh

[odd cosmos]

also, are pins only supposed to go half way?

[potent portal]

Power supply plugs should click in place when they're in all the way

[odd cosmos]

the hd audio one only can go half way

idk

why

[potent portal]

Are you putting it in the right header? It's usually the very bottom left one

[odd cosmos]

yea

yea bottom left

[potent portal]

If you're sure you got it in the right spot you might need to use a little force. Make sure you're pressing down, not at an angle though.

[odd cosmos]

ok

hwo mnay ports are there est?

around

[potent portal]

Which headers you use depends mostly on what case you have. Usually anywhere from 2-5, not including the front panel buttons and LEDs.

[odd cosmos]

ok

so basically

like cpu

fans

sound

etc?

[potent portal]

Yeah, and USB for the case

You might use a few more if you have a lot of fans

[odd cosmos]

there are a lot that are unnamed

how do i know if i should use or not?

[potent portal]

Your manual will have a diagram with all the ports numbered and labeled

[odd cosmos]

alr

thanks

lemme go find it ugh

in the mob manual?

[potent portal]

Yes

[odd cosmos]

kay

[potent portal]

Which board? I'll tell you what page

[odd cosmos]

um

B560M steel legend

[potent portal]

Page 7 has the ports numbered, and you match the number to the list on page 8

[odd cosmos]

ok

lemme c

thanks btw

idk if it's even gonna power on

[potent portal]

Then page 9 has the back panel numbered the same

[odd cosmos]

i think im dead, the descriptions dont really explain well

idk where to put all the cables

[potent portal]

What cables? You can post pics if there's any that you don't know

[odd cosmos]

pretty much all of them

i got the cpu down

the hd audio

the huge one (i think pwoer for everything)

and nwo im really confused about three

which are

POWER SW

H.D.D LED

[potent portal]

Ah the front panel ones

[odd cosmos]

yea

idk where to plug them on

is it panel 1?

[potent portal]

Page 20

Yes

[odd cosmos]

ok

and is there anything else?

what does the M/bd RGD do?

[potent portal]

RGB?

[odd cosmos]

yea

[potent portal]

Page 24

[odd cosmos]

so complicated lmao

[potent portal]

The first time it can be, especially if you're doing extras like RGB

[odd cosmos]

yea....

does every case have a power LED one?

[potent portal]

Every one that I've seen does

[odd cosmos]

ok

i can't find mine

[potent portal]

With the exception of a few rack servers

[odd cosmos]

i have a p400a

btw

[potent portal]

It's not important for now

[odd cosmos]

if u didn't know

[odd cosmos]

ok

around how many r there for the p400a

?

[potent portal]

It's just a light on the front panel to show the PC is on

[odd cosmos]

ports i need to plug in that is

is it a 2 pin or 1 pin?

[potent portal]

How many fans and how many RGB devices do you have?

[odd cosmos]

for the POWER LED

[odd cosmos]

3

rn, i have the rans

[potent portal]

The power LED should have 2 pins

[odd cosmos]

which are RGB

um and then cpu cooler

which is red LED

do u have a list for all the cables i have to plug in?

and the mob is apparently RGB

[potent portal]

I wouldn't know without looking at your exact parts which cables are needed, I could only guess

[odd cosmos]

oh

alright is there any tips for me?

[potent portal]

One thing at a time. Don't overwhelm yourself. Ask for specifics if you have questions on what things are or what they do.

[odd cosmos]

alright...

[desert gulch]

i mean a basic tip if you really want it is that all the screws dont need to be crazy tight, a lil past fingertight on stuff is fine for most stuff

[odd cosmos]

do u think i should plug the main power in to check

that i did something correctly

or should i do everything first

[potent portal]

All you need to plug in to test if it turns on is the 24 pin main power, 8 pin CPU power, CPU (and its fan), and memory. GPU if you don't have integrated.

And the power button if you want to use that to test it

[odd cosmos]

alr

where is the memory supposed to be plugged into?

[potent portal]

To the right of the CPU

[odd cosmos]

yea integrated lol

how many pins?

[potent portal]

On the page 7 diagram it's number 2 and 3, the long thin slots

Technically 288 pins but that doesn't really matter

[odd cosmos]

sorry what?

288 pins?

[potent portal]

Use slot 2 and 4

Yes

[odd cosmos]

page 7 doesn;t have a diagram?

[potent portal]

The memory looks like this

[odd cosmos]

yea ik

[potent portal]

There's 4 slots that it will fit in to the right of the CPU

[odd cosmos]

i put them in already

[odd cosmos]

yea i saw

but is there power pins to it ?

[potent portal]

No, it's powered from the motherboard

[odd cosmos]

ok

so we have cpu rn

24 pin

main power

cpu fan

what else do we need?

also i cant find power LEDs idk

where they r

does igpu need pcie?

[desert gulch]

no

[odd cosmos]

and it wont fry if i didn't plug in everything right?

[desert gulch]

it uses cpu power

plug in the 8 pin cpu power

should be near top of mobo

[odd cosmos]

yea did

anything else?

[desert gulch]

i mean if you got everything else loose plugged in then ye you could try to power it on

[odd cosmos]

btw the 3 pin rgb for fans are really loose

is that ok or?

[odd cosmos]

there are a lot of wires loose

since

i have igpu rn

so a lot of PCIE are unplugged

[desert gulch]

ye

no need for pcie stuff

[odd cosmos]

yea

i got everything else pretty much

btw the 3 pin for rgb of the fans

is loose

is that fine?

[desert gulch]

case fans arent needed to post a system

[odd cosmos]

ok but they are kinda loose

tho

[desert gulch]

i mean wdym loose

you plug it in all the way?

[odd cosmos]

it's kinda loose yk

like not a click sound

whne i plugged in

btw i chekced and the cpu fan works, the mob rgb works

and idk if other things work since they dont have indicator

[desert gulch]

they wont click

rgb headers do not click

they just slide in

[odd cosmos]

Ok

But after I put them in nothing happened

It’s called the

M/BD RGB

Idk what it does

Also I can’t find the power led

And the connectors for case

But how do I tell if the cpu is working?

[solid dust]

Why are there soooo many cables

I only have like 10 plugged in

And 87 more to go

[odd cosmos]

Lol

Same

[solid dust]

And I have ocd so I have to cable manage in the best way possible so you literally cannot see a single cable lmao

[odd cosmos]

So the motherboard cpu cooler seems to be working. However the case fans aren’t spinning or have rgb when we turn the pc on. Is that normal?

[solid dust]

Are they plugged in to your motherboard, and into the right spots? I accidentally plugged in my rgb and fan control into opposing plugs since they were both 3 pin lol

[odd cosmos]

Can’t really find them lol

And can’t find the power led

Do the case fans spin even if it’s not hot

[solid dust]

Yes

[odd cosmos]

wait how do u know if cpu is on?

i got my display and connected but no signal

what could that be?

[solid dust]

I’m not completely sure. I’m not super skilled in PCs

[odd cosmos]

oh its fine im sure other people can help

anyone else?

[solid dust]

You might want to use the PCMR or BuildAPC discords for other help

@odd cosmos accept my friend request and I’ll invite you to those

[odd cosmos]

kk

Anyone can help with my issue, so basically, when I plug it into a display, no signs is presented

What could be wrong?

[marble seal]

are you plugging into the gpu or the mobo?

if you have a gpu make sure you plug into that

[odd cosmos]

Wdym I don’t have gpu rn lmao

[muted patio]

wait what

what CPU?

[odd cosmos]

Yea ik but that shouldn’t prevent it from receiving any signal

[muted patio]

what cpu do you have?

[odd cosmos]

Intel 11500

[muted patio]

What motherboard?

[odd cosmos]

B560M

Steel legend

Idk if I plugged in everything tho

[muted patio]

Yeah, probs need a BIOS update for that cpu TBH

[odd cosmos]

The case fans turn on but don’t spin l, the cpu cooler turns on and spins

[muted patio]

You don't have a video output tho

-_-

[odd cosmos]

I think motherboard has most of its rgb working

[odd cosmos]

Oh yea how those?

Tho*

[muted patio]

Mmmm, mebbe not

[odd cosmos]

Ik but that shouldn’t prevent it from displaying a signal should it?

Since igpu

[muted patio]

Many things can

If no video out then no post

[odd cosmos]

What are all the things I need to plug in?

[muted patio]

Just because fans spin and things happen doesn't mean it's posted

[odd cosmos]

Yea

I understand

But could there be some serious issue?

[muted patio]

and no diagnostic lights, wonderful

[odd cosmos]

Like broken cpu

[muted patio]

CPU power plugged in?

the 8 pin?

[odd cosmos]

Yea

I think so

It’s cooler is working

[muted patio]

You're sure it's not the video 8 pin?

IE VGA

[odd cosmos]

Wait

How to tell?

[muted patio]

End of cable will be labeled CPU where it goes into the motherboard

It will be 2 4 pin connectors stuck together

[odd cosmos]

Yay onezv

That one*

On the left of cpu

Top left

[muted patio]

Yeah, looks like it might not be in all the way tho?

[odd cosmos]

Oh

[muted patio]

Check it

[odd cosmos]

Think it is

[muted patio]

Sometimes with those 4 pins, one has to go in first for the other to be fully seated, it's the way they interlock

[odd cosmos]

Isn’t it 8?

[muted patio]

Should be 2, 4 pin connectors stuck together

[odd cosmos]

Ok yea

Think they in properly

Could it be anything else?

I’m really scared it’s broken cpu

[muted patio]

Ram not seated all the way

24 pin power not in all the way

NVME drive in the wrong slot

any number of thigns

[odd cosmos]

ok lemme see

[odd cosmos]

It should be this one right?

[muted patio]

What drive is it exactly?

[odd cosmos]

Nvem m.2

[muted patio]

What drive is in there

need a model name

[odd cosmos]

Um lemme check for you

https://www.amazon.ca/Black-SN750-500GB-Internal-Gaming/dp/B07MH2P5ZD/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-fixed1_0?cv_ct_cx=nvme+m.2&dchild=1&keywords=nvme+m.2&pd_rd_i=B07MH2P5ZD&pd_rd_r=7f6fa539-b867-4d18-b140-87e4aa7434db&pd_rd_w=T3ma4&pd_rd_wg=JEhuu&pf_rd_p=941a7f3b-cd90-414e-84f6-66cbb0e62e1b&pf_rd_r=YYQ9N9WPEZVVR5JNEYZA&psc=1&qid=1619237002&sprefix=nvme+&sr=1-1-1591fd04-136d-468c-8940-b7976c53027d

This o believe

[muted patio]

And you used the screw in the end of it to hold it down?

[odd cosmos]

Yea

[muted patio]

NOt just the cover?

K

[odd cosmos]

One screw holds down the cover and ssd?

[muted patio]

No

[odd cosmos]

Wait

Then

[muted patio]

ON the end of the SSD there's a notch

[odd cosmos]

ITS THAT

[muted patio]

There's a seperate screw for it

[odd cosmos]

Oh

[muted patio]

really tiny one, usually in it's own bag

[odd cosmos]

Then another one fire the cover

[muted patio]

Yeah, or two for the cover

[odd cosmos]

For

[muted patio]

depends on the board

[odd cosmos]

Yea 2

Ok

Can I leave it like that for one night

Cause I kinda have to sleep

[muted patio]

Might be why it's not booting

[odd cosmos]

And fix tmrw?

[muted patio]

so leave it powered off until you check

[wise shore]

Hello

[muted patio]

sup

[odd cosmos]

Ok i turned it on a couple times to trouble shoot

Is it fine

[muted patio]

it's fine, just check it tomorrow

[cerulean trellis]

i need help

[odd cosmos]

Ok

Anything else?

Is a broken cpu likely?

[muted patio]

No

Few more things to check but you said you had to go to bed

[odd cosmos]

Could it be a missing pin not plugged in?

Yea it’s 12 lol

[cerulean trellis]

my friend got his new pc today and only his cpu shows up in task manager.

[odd cosmos]

But I’m really nervous

And can’t sleep

[cerulean trellis]

but it displays

[muted patio]

No, missing front panel connector won't do it

[odd cosmos]

Ok

[muted patio]

WDYM

[odd cosmos]

Then it’s prob ssd thanks

[muted patio]

Might be

[odd cosmos]

I’m still nervous and want to fix tdy but I don’t have energy lol

[cerulean trellis]

he got a new pc and his gpu is acting weird

[muted patio]

what gpu

[cerulean trellis]

we dont know

[odd cosmos]

Cya

[cerulean trellis]

it doesent show in task manager

[odd cosmos]

I will inform u if I fix it tmrw

[muted patio]

Uh, you don't know if it has a GPU or not?

[cerulean trellis]

it only shows cpu hdd ethernet etc

yes it has a gpu

[muted patio]

Well, what gpu lol.

Check Device Manger

[cerulean trellis]

it posts but it doent show in task manager and game performance is really bad

k

[muted patio]

where did he get the gpu

[cerulean trellis]

idk

[muted patio]

Check device manager. might have to physically pull the side panel and check the machine

MIght just be drivers aren't installed

[cerulean trellis]

oh wait we got the gpu

i hate to say i

it

hd 5770

smh

[muted patio]

oh

[cerulean trellis]

i dint know it was that bad

[muted patio]

That would explain a few things then

[cerulean trellis]

sheesh

[muted patio]

Yeah, bad news

[lyric thistle]

oof

[solid dust]

Ok do I need to plug an 8 pin into this? It’s at the bottom of my z590a pro

I can’t find what it’s for in the manual, but I it’s called a PCIE-PWR 1

[viral ore]

thats just a 6 pin PCIe power connector

same thing that goes into your GPU

and no, you prolly dont need it

but if your gpu doesnt work when you finish building the system, that may be required

[solid dust]

I have two 8 pins that go from my psu into my gpu so I shouldn’t need it

Right

[lyric thistle]

is there a page on this in the manual?

[solid dust]

I cannot find it

The manual is all online, so their might be

Ok, but I am just trying to get my PC to post. The rgb fans and ram are lighting up, but nothing else is working

I am using integrated graphics on my cpu right now

And my radiator is not hooked up to any fans, it is just mounted to the front of my case with the case fans blowing into it, but I have no outtake fans at all mounted currently

[clear moat]

how do i check the total wattage being used for my pc?

[lyric thistle]

get a thingy that plugs into the wall

[clear moat]

think my pc dying

[lyric thistle]

then the computer plugs into it

[clear moat]

running 3080 on 650 watt KEK

[muted patio]

with what cpu

[clear moat]

i7 8700k

[muted patio]

Problem with 3080's is the transient loads

[clear moat]

wym

like i dead ass think i can smell the psu

[muted patio]

it SHOULD be ok but man that 8700k is really underpowered for the 3080\

[clear moat]

so i turned off my game

[muted patio]

If you can smell the PSU it ain't good then

It's a bit underrated yeah

[clear moat]

wym tho?

its oc'd to like 4.5

[muted patio]

750W is recommended

[clear moat]

ye

[muted patio]

what res you playing at

[clear moat]

1080

[vagrant olive]

wdym if i cant smell a faint burning smell from my psu its not working hard enough

[muted patio]

Heh

[vagrant olive]

no components better be slacking in my computer

[muted patio]

at 1080p high FPS, you're lmited by CPU

[stoic island]

Spikes shouldn't really smell, more ocp triggering concerns tho

[muted patio]

Hence the 8700k is a bit underpowered for that gpu

[muted patio]

Or lack thereof

[stoic island]

But yea with 1080p and anything above 3070 you'll most likely be CPU bound

[lyric thistle]

what psu

[stoic island]

I mean, it's huge 1ms spikes kinda thing with like 300w avg iirc

[muted patio]

They pulll almost 300W normally

Transients were 400-450

[stoic island]

Ya

[clear moat]

psu is evga 650

lol

it pulled 239 watt earlier

[solid dust]

Yayyyyyy! I got my PC to post second try!

[earnest olive]

oh yeah? well can your pc do the dishes and sing a song

jk congrats 🙂

[lyric thistle]

only with encouragement from its family and friends

[clear moat]

@stoic island you on?

anyone with a 3080 play rust?

[frank stirrup]

Yes.

[lunar plover]

woupd a 3080 still be cpu bound at 1080p with a 5800x

[stoic island]

Most likely yes

[lunar plover]

what would i need to get to make it the fastest it can be?

i'm guessing a 5900x or something like that

[hasty mountain]

mine can

its called a dishwasher

when u press a button it starts singing

[fossil cedar]

Even a 5900x would bottleneck at 1080p but best you can get atm

[hasty mountain]

is this a good enough build

[muted patio]

Change that drive

It's a Sata drive

Get an SN550 instead

[fossil cedar]

Get an id cooling se 224xt gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5

[muted patio]

1050TI for $400??

Please don't waste your money on that

Are these US prices???

[hasty mountain]

alr

[fossil cedar]

Just get an i5 11500 and b560 motherboard and don't buy a 1050 ti for 400

[hasty mountain]

i want a white motehrboard

[fossil cedar]

Also that seems very expensive for a bq psu

[hasty mountain]

lemme c if its white

[muted patio]

Change the WD Blue to an SN550.

[hasty mountain]

mk

[muted patio]

And the PSU should be changed as well

way overpriced

[hasty mountain]

k

how much wats

[muted patio]

I'm looking

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KHhFf7/asrock-b560-steel-legend-atx-lga1200-motherboard-b560-steel-legend that motherboard do?

[hasty mountain]

yep

ty

[fossil cedar]

Way better np

[muted patio]

Power supply prices going up

ouch

[fossil cedar]

I would recommend ditching the 1050 ti, getting an i5 11500 instead and just waiting for a 3060 orr 3060 ti

[fossil cedar]

Bq 600w best for 90$ 👀

[muted patio]

nah, get this one instead. Tier B, modular https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-650-ga-220-ga-0650-x1-650w/p/1HU-00J7-004V5?Description=650W power supply&cm_re=650W_power supply-_-1HU-00J7-004V5-_-Product

[hasty mountain]

can u have an igpu and a dgpu but change the source to the dgpu?

[fossil cedar]

Ahh few i thought you meant they went up that much

[muted patio]

Yes

[hasty mountain]

alr cool

[fossil cedar]

Yeah you just plug into dgpu instead of mobo

[hasty mountain]

ahh

k

ty

[muted patio]

Segotep went up to $80+ now

[fossil cedar]

Damm

[muted patio]

mmhmmm

Gross

[desert gulch]

Big sad

[hasty mountain]

other than the case this is my build

[muted patio]

11600K now?

[hasty mountain]

yes

[muted patio]

Go back to the Z590 lol

[hasty mountain]

no vid card

[robust lake]

Idk if the mb is good

[desert gulch]

Have you ordered case yet?

[robust lake]

For 11600k

[muted patio]

It's not

Previous CPU was 11400

[desert gulch]

And a better cooler, gammax 400 is kinda meh

For a 11600k

[muted patio]

With 11600, need Z590 now

They changed CPU

[robust lake]

Yeah and not asrock one

[hasty mountain]

alr well my thing is 700 cad so

i can spend more

[robust lake]

700 without gpu?

[hasty mountain]

its igpu

[robust lake]

ok

[desert gulch]

Hva eu bought the case yet?

[robust lake]

You can get the z590 vison g for 280 if it fits your budget

[hasty mountain]

no

cus its not gud

[hasty mountain]

yea i can

[desert gulch]

I'd go for a p360 if that's good priced over there

Should be right around h510 price

And much much better airflow

[hasty mountain]

k

ty

i personally dislike phanteks cus it hurts me mentally and physically is there another case thats gud?

mayb a bit more expensive

[robust lake]

There is 4000d airflow

For 100

[hasty mountain]

mk

alr alr

yea that seems gud

hmm is there another cus dont like the grey

is lian li gud

lancol2

final build?

i went lancool 205

[robust lake]

Oh ok

Not sure about the airflow on that

1 sec

[hasty mountain]

k ill c too

it seems like it has good cooling

[robust lake]

yeah i think its decent

[desert gulch]

I'd also for sure change cpu cooler

And prolly ssd

[jagged ember]

gammaxx might not be enough for an 11600K

[hasty mountain]

k

[desert gulch]

Exactly

[muted patio]

It's not

[jagged ember]

DRP4

thats enough tho right?

[hasty mountain]

is an enermax aquafusion gud?

[muted patio]

No

[hasty mountain]

lmao

[muted patio]

120mm AIO in general aren't good

[hasty mountain]

alr

wat cooler is enough for this big boi

[muted patio]

https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Addressable/dp/B08F2FS7SR/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=white+cpu+cooler&qid=1619277205&sr=8-5

It's just an 11600K, that will work

[hasty mountain]

k

[muted patio]

It can handle a 5900x

[hasty mountain]

k

[stoic island]

80$ 500gb evo plus eh

Also, why not lancool 215 or lancool ii mesh?

[muted patio]

They change things every time we suggest them lol

Good nuff

[hasty mountain]

i went with lancool 2

[muted patio]

No better than the 510 with a solid front panel

[vale crypt]

hi

I want to build my PC but I do not what parts should i get

brand wise.

[lunar plover]

parts > brand

[vale crypt]

parts yes

[lunar plover]

damn wtf

[clear moat]

@stoic island what cou you recommend for 3080

I don't see any bottle necks tho

[lunar plover]

for cpus right now i would recommend AMD, mobos you can usually choose between msi asus or asrock, they all make good boards

[fossil cedar]

At 1080p yeah because processor has to push the info to the 3080 like

[lunar plover]

yeah, i understand that

maybe i should upgrade to 4k or something

[fossil cedar]

Well depends on their budget, intel budget king atm

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't worry about it, go 1440p if you want

[lunar plover]

i respect that, i do have my eyes on a $450 5800x tho

[fossil cedar]

But tbh with the frames being so high at 1080p with 5900x and 3080 you wouldn't notice the dip to 1440p

[fossil cedar]

Yeah good processor hard to get tho lol

[lunar plover]

might just use my 1660S until i get a 3080 or 70

it's gonna be a huge leap, i'm excited

[stoic island]

@clear moat cpu? 11600k is fine, I'd just change the ssd

[jagged ember]

mm

1660s is not a bad card

[clear moat]

I have 8700k

[stoic island]

Oh wait wrong guy

8700k is decent for now

[jagged ember]

it'll be fine

[clear moat]

I don't see how anyone can use a reg hdd

[stoic island]

@hasty mountain I'd change the ssd

[hasty mountain]

k

[stoic island]

500gb evo plus for 80$ kinda oof

[jagged ember]

7200rpm hdds araent awful

[muted patio]

I told em just get SN550

[hasty mountain]

wait lmao

[muted patio]

And they went samsung XD

[hasty mountain]

alr ill get that

lmao

[stoic island]

If you're going with ssd only, I'd say 1tb sn550 or mp34 or mp33 or p31

[muted patio]

They had a WD blue sata in there at first

[stoic island]

Or helix L or anything on windshields' list

Lol

[clear moat]

Also question guys

[jagged ember]

are these budget options?

[stoic island]

Everything other than p31

P31 is just meme nand and performance

[jagged ember]

gotcha

[stoic island]

All the other should be <110$ for 1tb

P31 is 135$

[jagged ember]

sheesh

[stoic island]

It's also like the best performer for rnd other than like optane lol

[jagged ember]

mm

good to know

thank

[clear moat]

So on my 3080 I drop the power to 50% and I get like 110 fps steady on my game but when I up it to 100% power its steady 90fps and peaks of 120

Is it because of my power supply struggling?

[stoic island]

What PSU?

[clear moat]

Evga 650

[fossil cedar]

Yikes

[stoic island]

Which exact one

[jagged ember]

thats a liitle tight on power

[clear moat]

Been years since I looked at it lol

[stoic island]

Oh boi

[muted patio]

It's probs the CPU struggling to feed the 3080 at 1080p TBH

[fossil cedar]

Unless it's a supernova time for new psu

[stoic island]

I'm thinking maybe something like volt reg if the power limit is the only thing changing

[clear moat]

750 would be solid tho right?

[muted patio]

Grab GPU-Z and find out

See what the voltages and GPu restrictions are doing

[fossil cedar]

Yeah although enermax revolution df 850w same price as 750w 120$ v good psu if getting a new one

[jagged ember]

*Cpu-z

[clear moat]

I'll have to check when I get home

[jagged ember]

unless thats actually what you meant to type

[muted patio]

GPU-Z

[stoic island]

@jagged ember gpuz for gpu power lol

[jagged ember]

okay

ignore me

[muted patio]

Not just power but also what's limiting it

[clear moat]

I bought a 750 tho should be coming in today

[jagged ember]

my brain is wrinkling

[stoic island]

What exact one?

[clear moat]

gimme like 30 minutes and I can say lol

[jagged ember]

suspense

[stoic island]

Is it not on your order history..?

[clear moat]

Nah

Ik ik

[stoic island]

Wacky

Hopefully it's a good unit

[clear moat]

Define good unit

[jagged ember]

not bomb, for a start

[muted patio]

hard to say without a model or brand

[stoic island]

Won't blow up, decent protections, decent volt reg, decent hold up time, etc

[clear moat]

Brand is evga don't know modle tho

[stoic island]

Plz don't be w1

[jagged ember]

must know model

[clear moat]

W1 bad?

[jagged ember]

evga make bomb too

[muted patio]

W1 bad ye

[clear moat]

SHEEESH

[muted patio]

EVGA doesn't make a lot of great power supplies

[jagged ember]

that's not what you got, is it

[lunar plover]

evga psus aren't trustworthy for me

[stoic island]

It was either w1 or n1 that blew up

[jagged ember]

N1

[stoic island]

Wait

[muted patio]

N1 blew

[jagged ember]

N1 is the bomb

[muted patio]

W1 bad tho

[jagged ember]

[stoic island]

Lemme think

W1 and n1 might be same unit, lemme check

[muted patio]

Both should be avoided lol

[stoic island]

Okay nvm I'm being confused

[stoic island]

[lunar plover]

is the seasonic focus gold 850w a good psu?

[muted patio]

Yes

[stoic island]

Which one

[muted patio]

But overpriced

[stoic island]

Focus fm or focus gm

Fm bad

GM good

[muted patio]

Seasonic tends to be high priced though, Enermax POG

[stoic island]

Ikr

[lunar plover]

i'mmmm not sure

[stoic island]

Phanteks amp is neat too

Amp is just rebranded gx iirc, and it's generally quite a bit cheaper

[lunar plover]

says it's gx

[stoic island]

Gx good

But

Revolution d.f. offers the same quality, if not better, for generally much cheaper

[lunar plover]

lots of DOA reviews tho

[muted patio]

For enermax??

[lunar plover]

for gx

[stoic island]

DoA reviews are wack

Law of big numbers

If lots of people buy something, even if failure rate is 0.01%, there's bound to be a lot of failure reports

[clear moat]

Myb it's not evga it's nzxt

[lunar plover]

this is gonna be my first build but i know a medium amount of pc stuffs

[muted patio]

nzxt what

need model

[clear moat]

Got you papa will send when I see sorry at work rn

Not tryna get clapped

[stoic island]

Is ok

Just @ us when you get it

[lunar plover]

what'll cool the 5800x enough so i can overclock it without worrying?

was looking for 60-80 temps

[muted patio]

actric freezer II, Lian Li Galahad, EK 240mm RGB

[stoic island]

Ya

[lunar plover]

well maybe not 80 but like 75

[odd cosmos]

Guys is this the screw for the m.2 ssd

[stoic island]

Freezer ii, galahad, ek-aio 240mm/280mm all did ~50c above ambient (test was run at 20c ambient) for an OCed 3950x so yea

[muted patio]

Probably

If it's all by itself

[stoic island]

Looks like it

[lunar plover]

ooh, might get the galahad

[stoic island]

Galahad is the expensive, but nice rgb option

[odd cosmos]

Yea

[stoic island]

Ek-aio is less expensive but still rgb

[odd cosmos]

I found another one of those tho

[muted patio]

2 slots, 2 screws

[stoic island]

Freezer ii is cheapest and slightly (very slightly) better performing

[odd cosmos]

But they came by themselves in that container

[odd cosmos]

Oh yea

Ok thanks

Lemme c if it posts

[lunar plover]

it's weird how most of the best performing aios have really ugly waterblocks

[muted patio]

Arctic Freezer has a VRM fan

It actually kinda works

Also offset mount for Ryzen

Which really works

[stoic island]

It does work, it's just not certain what the vrm fan does in general for people who already have competent VRMs and heatsinks

And yes forgot about offset mount lel

[lunar plover]

the ek 240mm d-rgb looks siiiick

i love those dim fans

[cold sorrel]

I'm definitely convinced I hit the right moment this year to pull the trigger on getting the rest of my parts. PSU prices are spiking, RAM is going up, the good NVMEs are going out of stock, GPUs are near unobtainable.... Now I just need to put everything together.

[uncut pelican]

Thoughts on the nzxt liquid coolers?

[lunar plover]

decent

CAM sucks tho

[muted patio]

Very overpriced

[lunar plover]

also an extra 100 buck for a screen? no thanks

[muted patio]

Ye

Middling cooling performance also

[uncut pelican]

How abt the corsair h100i elite compelix

[stoic island]

Same thing, generally overpriced

It's just standard asetek

[jagged ember]

Why not arctic freezer ii

[muted patio]

Ifbyou want a nice look lian li galahad

[stoic island]

If you need rgb, ek-aio or galahad

[lunar plover]

tubes are a lil stiff plus the waterblock is pretty ugly

[jagged ember]

Well, any of the other options above

[uncut pelican]

Function > fashion

[lunar plover]

still, would rather get ek

plus that's not always true

[clear moat]

@stoic island NP-C750

[rustic flare]

hmm i kinda feel like my build isn't performing as well as it should be any ideas

[stoic island]

ALright, NZXT C is nice

[stoic island]

wdym?

[ember bone]

?

[clear moat]

When you said nice can you explain what you mean? I'm trying to educate myself on power supplies

[rustic flare]

i guess like

im getting slight fps jitters

kind of rarely but

[ember bone]

Not enough power for gpu

[stoic island]

?

lemme get you a good article

[rustic flare]

i tried minecraft also and it's kind of hitting low 70 average

kk

[stoic island]

@clear moat Very good info if you want to know about PSUs
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supplies-101,4193.html

[stoic island]

Also, minecraft is very weak

like java still only uses a single core afaik

[rustic flare]

i see

[stoic island]

@rustic flare if you want to gauge your performance, use something like 3dmark, the trial version lets you do full tests, just can't turn off demo.
https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5775-3dmark.html

[rustic flare]

kk o7

[pseudo forge]

Anyone know what usually causes FPS drops?

[lunar plover]

could be a bunch of things

are your thermals good?

[dense sparrow]

whats best 144hz monitor?

[stoic island]

lots of wacky things

[stoic island]

depends on budget

[frank stirrup]

cpu or gpu

[stoic island]

@frank stirrup and ram

[pseudo forge]

Yeah my thermals are fine

[stoic island]

and hdd in cases

and software

[dense sparrow]

less than 200

[stoic island]

lots of software issues

@dense sparrow MSI G242 likely

[frank stirrup]

os in general

[pseudo forge]

I think it might be my drivers haven’t updated since I got my pc

[lunar plover]

what're your specs

[stoic island]

not just OS, other software too

it's all wacky as heck

[pseudo forge]

5600x 5500xt 16gb ram 3600

[frank stirrup]

smh. DRIVERS VERY IMPORTANT!

[lunar plover]

might be drivers

[stoic island]

main things, xmp, drivers.

[frank stirrup]

motherboard bios too in ur case

and even resizable bar

[pseudo forge]

Are drivers not automatically updated?

[lunar plover]

afaik, no

[dense sparrow]

what about MSI Optix G271?

[stoic island]

no

y

[pseudo forge]

Ohhhh

I guess I need to update my drivers then

Which drivers are most important

Gpu?

[stoic island]

27in 1080p is just annoying

all drivers are important

[pseudo forge]

Is there a way I can just update everything at once

[frank stirrup]

each and every one

[pseudo forge]

I’ve never updated drivers so idk how to do them

[stoic island]

some software can do some, but not really

it's just download

run the installer

[dense sparrow]

ok then i can get 24" is that good for G271?

[frank stirrup]

chipset, gpu, motherboard bios

[stoic island]

it'll either finish or ask you to install

[frank stirrup]

are the most important ones

[stoic island]

@dense sparrow G271 literally refers to a 27in panel

G271

that's how MSI names their monitors

[lunar plover]

is there any good monitors that don't have any artifacts or motion blur for 200-300 bucks?

[pseudo forge]

So for example I go on google and type 5600x drivers and download the latest one?

[stoic island]

artifacts and motion blur are gpu/software side lol

[cold sorrel]

Updating most drivers is really easy. If you can install a program, you can update drivers.

[lunar plover]

whoops, any good 1440p 144 hz i meant

[frank stirrup]

those are gpu things

[frank stirrup]

no

[lunar plover]

no they aren't

[frank stirrup]

you go to amd support page

[stoic island]

Artifacts mostly come from corrupted vram

that's the most common case

not monitor

[frank stirrup]

motion blur is game setting

[lunar plover]

oh wait what

[stoic island]

well, maybe not corrupted, but unstable

[dense sparrow]

THEN WHY IS THE 24"

[pseudo forge]

Ahhhh okay thanks guy appreciate it will update soon

[dense sparrow]

whoops caps

[lunar plover]

then i meant tearing and stuff

[stoic island]

@dense sparrow look at the name, that says G241 in the title

[frank stirrup]

G241

[stoic island]

G241 is the 24in panel

[pseudo forge]

Also when are GPUs gonna be easier to buy lol

Been waiting a year now

[frank stirrup]

What are you on about

[frank stirrup]

one more year

minimum

[dense sparrow]

oh um

[stoic island]

:P

but yea g241 g242 both good

g242 is just refresh

[lunar plover]

the 1080p 144hz monitor i have now has a bunch of motion blur and tearing, there's a setting for motion blur to be off in the monitor settings but it makes the pannel REALLY dim

[dense sparrow]

oh ok

so i should get MSI Optix G241 ?

[cold sorrel]

I have a G241. Been a nice monitor, I know this because I've been using it with my laptop since the laptop screen died.

[stoic island]

Yea, G241 is nice

[dense sparrow]

ok u sure? is good out of other G24___ ?

[stoic island]

g242 is just a refresh of g241

doesn't change much

[cold sorrel]

(And no, not bothering to replace the laptop screen right now. I might do it down the line as a hobby project, but I'm building a new desktop soon. Which is what this monitor was actually bought for.)

[dense sparrow]

oh ok

ill get MSI Optix G241

[fluid minnow]

What are good fans to get

[lunar plover]

noctua makes some great fans

could go phanteks too

[fluid minnow]

Ok

[odd cosmos]

Is this the screw for the ssd?

But if it is, there isn’t a place to

Slot in the heat sink cover

[uncut pelican]

I believe you can use the screw the heatsink was using

[odd cosmos]

And secure both ssd and heat sink into place?

[uncut pelican]

Mhm

[odd cosmos]

Should I do that?

[uncut pelican]

As long as it fits yeah just make sure to not force it in

[odd cosmos]

Mk

[rustic flare]

yeah that's so weird

jedi fallen order max settings runs at max

maybe it's just minecraft trolling me hard

[fading sphinx]

@earnest olive i unplugged and replugged everything and my pc is working thanks for all your help

[static ravine]

I took out my core I5 2400 to wipe off the old thermal paste and when Im trying to reseat the cpu there is a lot of resistance

[fossil cedar]

Check if any of the pins are bent

[static ravine]

R.I.P

from the looks of it a couple are bent

[midnight vigil]

oof

[earnest olive]

good to hear

[rancid lodge]

Hey so I’m installing my mushkin pilot e and the back of my mobo’s m.2 heatsink has this sticky pad, it had a sticker that said remove so I removed the sticker but do I remove the pad too? Or is it a thermal pad I should leave on

Tried removing it and a corner broke off so I assume I probably shouldn’t remove it?

Also does it matter which m.2 slot I put it in?

[ornate flicker]

You should put it in M.2 slot 1 both because starting with 2 would trigger me and because the first slot is always guaranteed full bandwidth.

Leave the pad. If your drive has a heatsink around it like mine did, you will have to remove that to install it, most likely.

[rancid lodge]

Yeah that’s what I removed in the pic, pretty sure the white pad is thermal but I’m not 100% sure

And which is the 1st slot

The one on the bottom had the heat sink

[desert gulch]

dont remove the pad lmao

just remove the plastic protective peel

[rancid lodge]

Yep okay

And is the top or bottom slot the 1st

Or would I need to look at the mobo layout for that

Okay never mind I found out which one is slot 1, was on the mobo itself

[fluid minnow]

What is a good power supply

[stoic island]

for what build

and what budget

[tulip notch]

does anyone have the msi - mpg Gaming Edge AC Motherboard

[stoic island]

Which one?

What chipset?

[tulip notch]

intel Z390

[stoic island]

What do you want to know about it?

[tulip notch]

MSI - MPG Z390 Gaming Edge AC

will it take addressable LED fans

[stoic island]

@tulip notch here's the notes on the 3 pin 5v aRGB headers

[odd cosmos]

Wait guys, do u have to break off the pins on some case cables?

[stoic island]

you what

[odd cosmos]

and btw, can someone trouble shoot with me bc im pretty sure i have all the essential cables plugged in and the computer is not posting a signal

[tulip notch]

thanks why i asked is that the motherboard in my desktop is going on me this is the board he reccommended as a replacement

[stoic island]

Take a picture maybe?

[odd cosmos]

of which part?

[stoic island]

The entire system

[odd cosmos]

ok

turned on?

[stoic island]

Sure

[verbal quarry]

I have my pc posted what should I use for its software?

[odd cosmos]

just wait around 5 min

imma screw the loose screws in

cause it's lying down on the floor rn

and u can't see anything

[stoic island]

Get mobo drivers off mobo website, and GPU drivers off GPU website

[verbal quarry]

Ok

[tulip notch]

Mr1111

[stoic island]

Geforce experience is useful for Nvidia, Adrenaline for AMD GPUs

Yes?

[verbal quarry]

Oh crap I just realized I don't have windows lmao

[earnest olive]

time to install linux

[tulip notch]

i have a fan setup not corsair but it has the 3pin connector should it work with the motherboard

[earnest olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792863650729820180/834969075679100947/linux_league.png

think about it

[stoic island]

Yea, there's 1x3 pin that is for standard 3 pin argb, and 1x3 pin for Corsair's proprietary connector

[verbal quarry]

Whats the differences between the two?

[stoic island]

very different to use

[earnest olive]

it was a joke

[stoic island]

and depends on distro

[earnest olive]

just install windows lol

[stoic island]

If you're used to windows, use windows

[verbal quarry]

Any recommendations on where I should get a key?

[stoic island]

You don't need one to start (there's an option to enter key later)

ebay usually

[odd cosmos]

That’s the system so far

Not posting

[lyric thistle]

Back alley 😎

[static ravine]

kek

[odd cosmos]

And no signal on the monitor after connecting

[vagrant olive]

theres an error led on the mobo

does it have a label

[stoic island]

what chip?

[vagrant olive]

^ also that

[odd cosmos]

Intel i51500