#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 1053

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:26 PM

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No it didn’t come with any

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 4:26 PM

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WHAT

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Yeah idk Phanteks build quality is great but their rgb instructions make me want to commit unalive

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Oh right

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The front panel has the controls

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So I think the top front is actually the controller

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:27 PM

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Yeah and they work

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I was able to switch the color and mode of the rgb

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But there was still no rgb to the fans ;-;

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:28 PM

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do you see a sata cable sticking out of the top front

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Wait, what's connected to that?

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Is there a vc i can join so i can just stream this

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 4:28 PM

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And yea it should be connected with sata power, but if it's already working.. maybe might just need to daisy chain

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:28 PM

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the manual is really bad lol

still roostBOT Apr 21, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Zoink#4345 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Forgot about that

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No s word in newegg server 🪨

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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unfortunately i have not used this case before so i dunno how the controller works

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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stoic island And yea it should be connected with sata power, but if it's already working.. ma...

Yeah I plugged the sata boi into my PSU sata and that’s what got the DRGB or whatever to work

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But it didnt turn on the rgb in my fans

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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What about rgb wise, how is it connected?

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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the fans must just not be plugged in

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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They arent

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Controller - working fan - not working - not working?

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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I dont know where to plug them in

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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@fast wagon try daisy chaining the argb fans

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:29 PM

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I did that

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But the end of it is unplugged

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Because idk where to put it in

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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take a pic of all of the cables coming out of the top front of the case

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Okay

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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maybe there is an argb male connector coming out of it

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Oh there is

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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might have a rubber/plastic protector on it

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Yeah

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There is

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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yeah plug your fans into that then

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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I just dont know what to do with it

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I cant lmao

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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you said you daisy chained them

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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My fans are male connectors

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:30 PM

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is there a female connector

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Hold on

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:31 PM

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there should be 3 male 3 female

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so you should be plugging in 3 males into 2 females and using the last female to the controller

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wait

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am i being dumb

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controller male > female of fan 1
male of fan 1 > female of fan 2
male of fan 2 > female of fan 3
male of fan 3 unused

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yeah there

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then they should all work

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:32 PM

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That wire I held at the end was the daisy chained one

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earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:33 PM

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yes that is a female connector at the end

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so you can plug that into the controller's male connector

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and it should be good

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:33 PM

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I tried that

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earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:34 PM

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didn't work?

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:34 PM

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I’ll try turning it on again

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:34 PM

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wait that is labelled motherboard drgb 3 pin

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might not be the right one since you're not using motherboard sync

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Nope, doesnt work and now the rgb is off as well that was working previously

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:34 PM

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that cable is meant for connecting it to the motherboard

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:35 PM

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And my motherboard doesn’t have that header

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:35 PM

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look for a different male connector from the top front that doesn't say mobo

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:35 PM

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This one says D-RGB-FAN

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:36 PM

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yeah looks promising try it

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should be the right one

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Plug it in where though)?

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The female connector I just tried was the one that didn’t work

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:36 PM

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to the female connector from the fans daisy chains

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yeah but this is a different male connector

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:37 PM

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That female connector isn’t from the fan daisy chains

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No its the same one lol

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There’s only one

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:37 PM

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huh

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undo the daisy chain on all your fans and do it like i wrote earlier

gleaming gazelle Apr 21, 2021, 4:37 PM

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do you not have a "hub" for the RGB wires in the back?

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:37 PM

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earnest olive controller male > female of fan 1 male of fan 1 > female of fan 2 male of fan 2 ...

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fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Okay

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:37 PM

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you might just have it daisy chained incorrectly

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hopefully

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:38 PM

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The controller male does not fit into female of fan #1

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:39 PM

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huh

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what does the female connector look like

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Bruh

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Discord deleted my picture hold on

gleaming gazelle Apr 21, 2021, 4:39 PM

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it has holes in it

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:39 PM

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explicit filter false positive?

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lol

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:40 PM

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It keeps deleting it

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Dude

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One second lmao

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:40 PM

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the discord explicit filter is terrible

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prevented me from sending a meme featuring a fully clothed person in my own server 😔

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he had long sleeves and jeans too smh

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Thats the only picture I can send of it

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Ffs

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:41 PM

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ohhh it's the phanteks proprietary stuff

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:41 PM

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Thats the female connector on fan #1

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:41 PM

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yuck

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:42 PM

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Deleted again

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I hate this

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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so you plugged in the sata power right

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into the one coming out of the top

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:43 PM

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Yes

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earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:44 PM

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if only the phanteks manual wasn't so bad

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 4:44 PM

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Ik

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If I can’t fix the fan rgb in the next hour i’m just not going to use it

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:45 PM

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hope you can figure it out

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i should buy this case sometime so i can investigate

robust wyvern Apr 21, 2021, 4:55 PM

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I currently have an MSI B350 Pro-VDH motherboard. It can only handle 2666Mhz on ram. If I upgrade to an Asus Z390 Pro Gaming motherboard and buy better ram what kind of improvement would I see in FPS? Or would I even see a change. I have a 1070Ti gpu.

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:55 PM

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what is your cpu

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and what games are you playing at what resolution

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faster system ram mostly helps when you are not gpu bottlenecked

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so if you are playing esports/less graphically demanding games you will see a larger improvement than if you are playing metro exodus rtx on

robust wyvern Apr 21, 2021, 4:57 PM

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i7-8700 and I play WoW and Valheim currently. Looking at possibly getting back into the Assassin's Creed series.

plucky mango Apr 21, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Hi, I need help getting a KVM setup for my personal and work laptops.

I have 2 apple monitors (both are mini display)

I have a new macbook pro (4 usb-c ports) and a lenovo yoga (2 usb-c and 2 standard usb ports)

Can you recommend a cost effective setup that would allow me to use both computers with my current monitors?

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:58 PM

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i would consider selling the cpu/mobo/ram as a bundle and going i5-10400 or so with b560 mobo

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may be more cost effective and get you on a newer platform

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since z390 is EOL already

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it may also be easier to sell as a bundle

robust wyvern Apr 21, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Kind of what I figured.

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Thank you for the help.

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 4:59 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wR29dD

System Builder

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you could keep your old cooler or you could sell it with the bundle

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this would do great

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you could also pay a little extra for i5-11400 instead of i5-10400 if you want 11th gen

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the difference is not that much but it may help for WoW since it has better single core

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maybe raids will run more smoothly lol

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zyxvt8

System Builder

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also @plucky mango sorry i'm not ignoring you i just have no idea about your question i'm a desktop person

cold sorrel Apr 21, 2021, 5:06 PM

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Man, I'm glad I nabbed my parts when I did. It sounds like it's going to be even more a nightmare shortly to try and build a PC.

hallow glen Apr 21, 2021, 5:15 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BPgfZZ the two gpus are an or based on the shuffle

System Builder

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also the 6800 xt in the shuffle could sub in

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbCQsX

System Builder

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 5:47 PM

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@earnest olive now it doesn’t post lol

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And there’s no light indicator on the mb to tell me what the problem is

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 5:48 PM

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oof

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 5:50 PM

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Nope reseated ram with 2/4 sticks and it boots

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Im just waiting for the future ai to be able to tell me what exactly it is I’m doing wrong

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So I don’t have to spend so long guessing lol

golden pasture Apr 21, 2021, 6:16 PM

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fast wagon And there’s no light indicator on the mb to tell me what the problem is

What cooler is that?

fast wagon Apr 21, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Deepcool Captain 360X

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i got it all working now tho :)

blazing aurora Apr 21, 2021, 6:35 PM

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earnest olive oof

nice name

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fellow intel enjoyer

full atlas Apr 21, 2021, 6:39 PM

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This came in today

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I got it from best buy😫

full inlet Apr 21, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I got mine from amazon

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close to msrp honestly

full atlas Apr 21, 2021, 6:44 PM

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It was oos on amazon when I ordered

full inlet Apr 21, 2021, 6:44 PM

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at least before taxes

full atlas Apr 21, 2021, 6:44 PM

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full inlet close to msrp honestly

That’s not hard with an 11400

full inlet Apr 21, 2021, 6:44 PM

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iK

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 8:04 PM

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hallow glen https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZbCQsX

I'd recommend just a pilot e or sn550 or something instead for the ssd btw

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:33 PM

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Y’all know which is better? The 11500 or 3400g

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Both in terms of igpu and cpu power

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And is 11500 worth 50 cad more

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I totally didn’t know that the 3400g was so good and got the 11500 and just realized

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Actually it’s like 80 dollars more since I got a separate cooler

blazing aurora Apr 21, 2021, 9:38 PM

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3400g has the better igpu iirc but I'd recommend the 11500

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 9:39 PM

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New Ryzen APUs are coming soon that will be faster with better iGPU

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 9:40 PM

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odd cosmos I totally didn’t know that the 3400g was so good and got the 11500 and just real...

3400g as a cpu is actually relatively terrible, it just has a great iGPU

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:41 PM

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stoic island 3400g as a cpu is actually relatively terrible, it just has a great iGPU

Oh ok how come?

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:41 PM

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potent portal New Ryzen APUs are coming soon that will be faster with better iGPU

Lol oof I just started building my pc

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 9:41 PM

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The CPU is Zen+

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:41 PM

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And prob gonna use igpu for a while

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 9:41 PM

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Even though 3xxx suggests it's Zen 2

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:41 PM

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Oh ok

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But for gaming performances

sudden valve Apr 21, 2021, 9:42 PM

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pp

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:42 PM

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The 3400g would be better?

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 9:42 PM

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With no GPU, yes, once you put a GPU in there, 11500 slaps it

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Oh ok

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So long term over short lol

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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potent portal New Ryzen APUs are coming soon that will be faster with better iGPU

I saw it was OEM only until later though?

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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I was scared I had spent 80 dollars more

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For 2x worse performance

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Lol

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Eh

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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That’s good to hear

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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I5 gomma be worse short term but better once you get gpu yes

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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But it’s gonna be worse for a while since gpu so hard to get lol

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:43 PM

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fossil cedar I5 gomma be worse short term but better once you get gpu yes

Ye

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Btw

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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I'd rather do that tbh

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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How easy is it to break the i5s pins?

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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odd cosmos How easy is it to break the i5s pins?

Intels pins are on the mobo

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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stoic island I saw it was OEM only until later though?

You know what people will do though. They buy the PC for the GPU and strip and sell the other parts 😂

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Oh mn

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Mb

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How easy is it to break it?

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Just be a bit careful and you'll be g

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Ok

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And the fan inside it is trash right

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So I can throw it away basically

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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The default cooler?

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Yea

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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I wouldn't throw away just incase

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Was wondering why the box was so big lol didn’t realize it had cooler inside

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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But get a gammaxx 400, id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 for it

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Yeah. Keep it as a backup, but it would struggle with the stock settings.

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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Yea I got a 400

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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potent portal You know what people will do though. They buy the PC for the GPU and strip and s...

I mean, I'm assuming same situation as 4000 APUs

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:46 PM

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potent portal Yeah. Keep it as a backup, but it would struggle with the stock settings.

Yeah or incase you need to rma

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:47 PM

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Ok but i got a separate cooler so I should be good

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Btw which gpu do y’all think is easiest to get?

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Yes but i wouldn't throw away the default cooler just incase you need to return or want to sell 2nd hand or incase the other one fails

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Yeye

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Just in case lol

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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Yep

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:48 PM

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How difficult is it to win a shuffle?

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Bc it seems like my only way of getting gpu

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Shuffle is completely luck based

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Chances would bd product/people entered for that product

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:58 PM

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potent portal Shuffle is completely luck based

Yea ik but how many people usually enter, for example the 3060

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The kinda lower end

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Ones

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 9:58 PM

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They haven't released any info on specifics for anything

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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That information is not available

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Oh

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Welp

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Any other methods?

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Methods for what?

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Ig refreshing page like a hawk is an option

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To get a gpu

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Nope

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Doens't work for Best Buy either

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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odd cosmos The kinda lower end

anything that they can afford they are probs entering

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Refresh after first tag of the yellow button and it resets you

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:00 PM

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Oh

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So shuffle basically only way to get gpu

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Other than second hand

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Or some sort of automation

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:00 PM

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Your best option is a local store, I'd call shuffle a distant second

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:00 PM

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best buy drop and fantastic luck

vagrant olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:00 PM

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zotac and bestbuy are best sites to buy a card imo

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but zotac you have to get lucky with connections

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:01 PM

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zotac zack

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:01 PM

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potent portal Your best option is a local store, I'd call shuffle a distant second

Yea I was thinking that but there really aren’t any in Canada

vagrant olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:01 PM

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https://tenor.com/bru9M.gif

Tenor

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 10:01 PM

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Open box Zotac hasn't existed in like a year peepoSadSip

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:01 PM

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muted patio best buy drop and fantastic luck

How difficult is it lol

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Do u have to set up a notification thing

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:02 PM

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You need to be faster than the bots hitting the yellow button, then you have to hit it again after a delay

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Welp so basically impossible

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:02 PM

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odd cosmos Yea I was thinking that but there really aren’t any in Canada

shuffle is us only too

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:02 PM

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Since how can u be faster than a bot

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:02 PM

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And then checkout in seconds as well since being in your cart is not a reservation

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:02 PM

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fossil cedar shuffle is us only too

No but I have some family there so yo

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Yk

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:02 PM

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ahh

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:03 PM

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potent portal And then checkout in seconds as well since being in your cart is not a reservati...

Ugh current market

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Ba

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Bs

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Any good notification sites u guys recommend?

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Now in stock kinda works but idk why but the noti is delayed

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:03 PM

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Google a stock drop Discord, we can't link other channels here

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:04 PM

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you could always try evga when the 3080 ti comes out they drop once iirc

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:04 PM

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potent portal Google a stock drop Discord, we can't link other channels here

Oh yea lol

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Prob depending on your power situation

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That should be fine

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

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650W what model

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SOme good, some bad, GOld means nothing lol

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

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But no more than that tho

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3080 might work but ur pushing it at that point

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

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check the model, either through the receipt, box or label on the psu

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

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BT? B? G5? PB?

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Uh no

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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w1? br?

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Don't be putting a 3080 on a 650W PSU

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Ok yea admittedly but isn’t a good one enough for 3080

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Ur pushing it but still

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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odd cosmos Ok yea admittedly but isn’t a good one enough for 3080

No

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Oh sry lol

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don’t listen to me then

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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I mean, really should check the model but go for it

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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tbh my 3070 runs on an 600w evga w1 but wouldnt reccomend

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Might be good, might be bad

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Good luck!

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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3060 should work on 550 right

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Depends on other things

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LIke CPU

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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11500

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Also depends on PSU

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Model, not brand

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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Yea ik lemme go check

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:09 PM

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550W N1? Heck no

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W1? heck no

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:09 PM

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Lol it’s a cx

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:10 PM

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SHoul dbe fine

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Ok which ones are best?

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Out of the different psus

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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revolution df 850w

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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And what r the differences

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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12

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120

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Revolution d.f. 850w

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Oh how much is it?

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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120-130$

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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I’m not gonna get it but might consider down the line

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Woah that’s actually not too bad

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Mine was 90 cad

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550w cx

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Cx decent

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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But it was on sale for like 30 idk

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Aright

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Hb tx?

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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TXm, the modern one, great, tx, the like 7 years old one, bad

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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lol ok thanks

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👍

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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try get at least a 600w tbh

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Yea ik but couldn’t find one that looks reliable

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And mine was pretty good price, plus I’m not gonna go hard core

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3060 prob my max gpu

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Maybe more down the line but rn yk

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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3060 min 600w iirc

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550w min

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Didn’t vintageracer say 550 was enough?

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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600w reccomended i believe

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but yeah its fine

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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Since it’s a cx

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Ok lol

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Got scared for a sec

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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550W is recommended

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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muted patio SHoul dbe fine

should be anyway

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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fossil cedar 600w reccomended i believe

But aren’t those all over estimated

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Not really

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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And I only have 11500

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Why do people always skimp on the power?

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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muted patio 550W is recommended

ohh somewhere said 550w min

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Like, that's what makes everything work

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Lol

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Literally

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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280w or bust

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Adequately powering computer hardware?

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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Don’t get how a gpu only needs 300w and needs 600 in total

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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No way

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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$1000 CPU but cry about $100 PSU

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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they take into account a 100w tdp or so processor tho

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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People think "oh Dell only puts a 330W power supply in their PCs, 400 should be more than enough"

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Oh yea but how come?

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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odd cosmos Don’t get how a gpu only needs 300w and needs 600 in total

Power transients are a thing

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65W Intel CPU can pull 200W

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These are why

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Wait WHAT

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200W

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Yea

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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TDP is irrelevant

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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MY LIFE IS A LIEEEE

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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yeah

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Doesn't like 11700k pull up to 400w OCed

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When PL is like 105w

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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There is nothing else in the system that really pulls power goth

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Right*

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Do ~100w for rest of system power imo

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There's a bit of everything that pull a bit

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Oh ok

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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May add up

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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What about locked cpus

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Also, it's not good to run a PSU at 100%

odd cosmos Apr 21, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Yea it’s suggested at 80?

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:19 PM

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lyric thistle What about locked cpus

They can still pull well over TDP

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:19 PM

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@muted patio unless it's a good psu, then it can pull overload without much issues

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2021, 10:19 PM

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still, rule of thumb @stoic island, dont go over if you dont absolutely are forced to

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:19 PM

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Of course

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:20 PM

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foggy hazel still, rule of thumb <@!278694081440251905>, dont go over if you dont absolutely...

Because good PSUs can pull overload, I use power draw testing directly

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(without accounting too much for spikes)

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Since spikes can be dealt with assuming ocp not wack

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2021, 10:21 PM

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aye aye

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Because the "not good to run at 100%" bit is usually what makes people buy PSUs rated for 1.5x what they're actually pulling :(

muted patio Apr 21, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Don't need to go 1.5x either

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People silly

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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Ya, it's in-between

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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odd cosmos Yea it’s suggested at 80?

less if possible

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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So use the actual rating on the PSU, trust the manufacturer for once xD

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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it runs on a curve

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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What

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

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the efficiency curve

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for wattage

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but its kind similar before 80%

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Efficiency curve is like 1% deviation

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Doesn't really matter

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:23 PM

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yeah

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2021, 10:23 PM

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unless you are dealing with some really sketchy models

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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Ofc

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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and/or really old models

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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but i mean its no harm to run less than 80 means less likely for psu fan to ramp up to i think

foggy hazel Apr 21, 2021, 10:24 PM

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i vaguely seem to remember HardOCP having a psu on their test bench that had a triple peak on the efficiency curve

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or something equally silly

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the conclusion was something along the lines of: Set it on fire IF you have bought it

stoic island Apr 21, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Efficiency curve of the CWT GPU, which revo d.f. is built off of

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I know crappy image but eh

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Nice

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

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anyone know what would cause this fan to blink red like this when the pc is in off state?

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mobo is the proper shade of pink and the fan in question works properly when pc is on

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:32 PM

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Incorrect power level is my guess

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Especially since it's off

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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yeah that makes sense but what causes that? is it just the mobo's fault

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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RGB tech isn't perfect. I'd say the motherboard yeah.

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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could it be because case fans are daisy chained off of it? the case fans don't light up at all when it's off

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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the LEDs pull power from the 3 or 4 pin connector, im sure theres enough power present on the header to light up the LEDs

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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Even when it's off though?

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:33 PM

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the board isnt off, theres power running through it

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it could be a board issue, where theres power leakage where there shouldnt be

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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earnest olive anyone know what would cause this fan to blink red like this when the pc is in o...

We were told it's off

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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or just a quirk of the board

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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happens in both off and sleep

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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Which is why I think it's a power issue with the board

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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or the fan could do this in every system and its just defective or poorly designed

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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my own pc has the option to keep rgb on while pc is off and it has no trouble powering all 8 fans

rich helm Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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My Corsair fans default to green

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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even though the fans are using splitters through 2 headers

rich helm Apr 21, 2021, 10:34 PM

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When off

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:35 PM

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this pc has 2 case fans daisy chained off of the cpu fan's argb connector

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the case fans don't light up when pc is off

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:35 PM

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is there a second one of these fans, and is it plugged into the board the same way as the problematic one?

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:35 PM

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no this is the cpu fan so don't have another

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:35 PM

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try it in a different board maybe

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:35 PM

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it all works perfectly fine when on

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don't have another board to test

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not particularly interested in taking apart gf's pc while she needs it lol

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it's not a huge problem just wondering why it's happening/if i did something wrong

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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use a multimeter, check voltage on the cpu fan header

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while the system is off

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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don't have one

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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really?

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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nope

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do most people have a multimeter on hand...?

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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your a techie/mod assist here who builds computers and really smort

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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I'd just call it an RGB quirk, it seems wasteful to me to have it in a C state instead of off to me

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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but doesnt have a basic tool?

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oof

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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earnest olive do most people have a multimeter on hand...?

I have 3 lol

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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order one now lmao

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:37 PM

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i've never needed a multimeter for a pc build

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:38 PM

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i use em all the time for working with PSUs

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and for poking around funny issues such as these

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:38 PM

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potent portal I have 3 lol

Why 3 lol?

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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bc you lose one, buy another, then find it again lmao

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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Fair lol

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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would it possibly have anything to do with the daisy chains? i kinda don't think so cause my board has no trouble with that

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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no

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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One for my car, one for small jobs I don't need exact measurements for, and one that is precise to 4 decimal places

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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so just a board quirk

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it's an asrock b560m pro4/ac

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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unless they end up in a powered fan hub, or something else thats not a fan header

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 10:39 PM

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Don't see why the daisy chaining would be a problem

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:40 PM

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no all of them are connected to mobo 5v argb

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:40 PM

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so the fan has an argb AND power connector?

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or just one or the other

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:40 PM

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Didn't you say 2 argb headers though?

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:40 PM

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pwm, argb female, argb male

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i connected the argb female of the cpu fan to the mobo

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and then daisy chained the case fans off of the argb male

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

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i saw enermax, and just assumed the LEDs were powered off the fan header lmao

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

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it's argb not red led

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:42 PM

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If you've got all 4 daisy chained on one header you might want to get a powered hub, usually 3 is the soft limit

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:42 PM

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there's actually occasionally a light green flash alongside the red flashes which makes me think it's trying to do pink

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since pink is deep red + a little bit of green and blue

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in terms of rgb mixing

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but yeah all the lighting works fine when the pc is on

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:43 PM

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all i can say for sure is that there is some rogue power while the system is in the off state, and its coming from somewhere

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:43 PM

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iirc i have 2 case fans daisy chained to the cpu header and then one case fan connected to its own header

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:44 PM

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could be a board design flaw, who knows

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:44 PM

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but the case fan connected to its own header also has no light

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well the board is supposed to support lighting on while board is off

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:45 PM

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so it could be overdrawing power off the ARGB header maybe but i doubt it

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:45 PM

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earnest olive iirc i have 2 case fans daisy chained to the cpu header and then one case fan co...

If it's 2 separate headers power isn't the problem, and it's probably just a quirk with the board

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:45 PM

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overdraw? it seems like underdraw

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:46 PM

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well, overdraw from the perspective of the board, as in the board might not be in a state to supply that much power

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:46 PM

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Perhaps the board isn't able to give the full 1A in the "off" C state

viral ore Apr 21, 2021, 10:46 PM

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for some reason

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:48 PM

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poking around in bios rn cause she started painting lol

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 10:49 PM

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Maybe you could try doing 2 fans on each RGB header instead of 3 and 1? Then the header doesn't need to give as much juice

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 10:49 PM

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well the case fan that has its own header is still completely dark in off state

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i disconnected the daisy chained fans and same thing

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as an experiment i tried daisy chaining the cpu fan to one of the case fans and connecting case fan to mobo directly

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same thing

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so maybe just a quirk of this fan

spice badger Apr 21, 2021, 11:25 PM

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should I get a prebuilt rn

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Pretty good idea tbh

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:27 PM

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*If the price is right

fossil cedar Apr 21, 2021, 11:27 PM

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Yes ofc ^

olive berry Apr 21, 2021, 11:29 PM

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Hey guys. Im new to this kind of stuff and i was wondering if anyone could help me. I need to see if my storage is compatible with all my other stuff and if not what should I get instead to make compatible?

round stream Apr 21, 2021, 11:30 PM

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olive berry Hey guys. Im new to this kind of stuff and i was wondering if anyone could help ...

https://pcpartpicker.com/

Pick parts. Build your PC. Compare and share.

olive berry Apr 21, 2021, 11:30 PM

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thanks

spice badger Apr 21, 2021, 11:31 PM

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Wait, did the nzxt starter pc build price go up?

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Yes, due to the GPU shortage

spice badger Apr 21, 2021, 11:34 PM

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bitcoin can f off

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I should've got one when they were 700

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:35 PM

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The shortage has very little to do with miners tbh

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It's primarily a huge spike in demand because everyone is working from home and needs new PCs

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Pair that with the new gen of GPUs being WAY better than many previous generational gaps, which is another factor in the demand spike

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Miners have only gotten between 5-10% of the stock of GPUs according to many estimates

cold sorrel Apr 21, 2021, 11:38 PM

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I'm probably going to do my build this weekend. I have stuff I need to do during the week.

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:39 PM

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Nice! It's about time, but it pays to be patient

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 11:39 PM

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10-20 series was a much wider performance gap tho wasn't it

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1080 non ti about the same as a 2060 Super

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:40 PM

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lyric thistle 1080 non ti about the same as a 2060 Super

LOL no

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Not even close

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Besides, the super was more of an afterthought after Nvidia saw AMD creeping up

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 11:41 PM

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:42 PM

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It's like a 20% difference between the 1080 ti and 2060 super https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-7700k-4-20ghz/

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Especially at high resolution

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Oh wait you said NON ti, that's what I get for skimming...

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Yeah those ones are pretty comparable you're right about that

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Non super 2060 is pretty similar too

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Below 1080 non ti but not far below

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That's a huge improvement from 10-20

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:47 PM

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Going from 2060S to 3060 ti is more of a jump than that though

drifting solar Apr 21, 2021, 11:47 PM

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1060 gang where you at?

potent portal Apr 21, 2021, 11:48 PM

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3060 ti is roughly a 2080 (not super)

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Tru

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 11:53 PM

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JuSt OvErClOcK yOuR 2060 tO mAtCh A 3090

lyric thistle Apr 21, 2021, 11:53 PM

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GeForce 210 beats 2060 😤

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 11:54 PM

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lyric thistle That's a huge improvement from 10-20

you gotta consider that the 1650 and 1660 exist, 2060 msrp is almost as high as 1070 msrp

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1660 is a closer competitor to the 1060

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with a much tamer performance jump

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4712 from the 1060, 5822 from the 1660, 8094 from the 2060

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i've seen 7.1k on 1070

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7.1k > 8.1k not a huge jump

full inlet Apr 21, 2021, 11:57 PM

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drifting solar 1060 gang where you at?

right here

drifting solar Apr 21, 2021, 11:57 PM

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nice

earnest olive Apr 21, 2021, 11:58 PM

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i used a 1060 for 5 months as a temporary gpu

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do i count?

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it was an overclocking champ

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got it to 2.2ghz

winged lion Apr 21, 2021, 11:59 PM

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drifting solar 1060 gang where you at?

Laptop 1660ti right here grey_agonyLaugh

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 12:02 AM

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How does it make sense that a mobile 1660 ti is better performance than a desktop 1060 6GB, but it uses so much less power? I know the technical answer, it's just baffling to me

round stream Apr 22, 2021, 12:02 AM

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cold sorrel I'm probably going to do my build this weekend. I have stuff I need to do during...

whats ur build

valid sinew Apr 22, 2021, 12:02 AM

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hi, sorry if this is a very noob question or something, but i'm trying to build my first pc using pc part picker and i realized i don't really now what to look in certain parts
so my question is, how can i tell what are good parts to get? i'm sorry if this doesn't make much sense i don't have much of an idea what i am doing :/

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:03 AM

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16/20 series was a big improvement

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Turing?

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Wait what's the architectures called lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:04 AM

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potent portal How does it make sense that a mobile 1660 ti is better performance than a deskto...

their performance is pretty close and the gtx 1060 doesn't use much power to begin with (120W), but the 1660ti is on tsmc 12nm while 1060 is on tsmc 16nm

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:04 AM

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10, 20

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:04 AM

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the node jump is probably a pretty large part of the efficiency bump

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 12:04 AM

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Like I said, I know the technical answer, but it's just crazy how fast technology improves

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:05 AM

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my midrange laptop's gpu solidly beats my first build's 1080ti

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the 1080ti took 370W to deliver 10.4k time spy

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this 3070M takes 130W to deliver 11.2k

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quite a leap

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:05 AM

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I have a GTX 970, mobile 1650 ti is probably close

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Is ryzen master the only way for me to oc my 5600x? Because the installer isn't installing anything and isk what to so

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:06 AM

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use bios

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Ah, i'm so sped

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Thank u

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:06 AM

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what workload are you doing that you want to manual oc

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Ok not that close lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:07 AM

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manual oc will decrease your gaming performance so only do manual oc if you have a production workload in mind

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:07 AM

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Not doing anything too crazy I am just doing some video editing and rendering some stuff

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:07 AM

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ah okay

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:07 AM

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Figured I'd give it a try

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:07 AM

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yeah you are good to manual oc then

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i just ask cause a lot of people try when they're just gaming

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@potent portal

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progress

fossil cedar Apr 22, 2021, 12:08 AM

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valid sinew hi, sorry if this is a very noob question or something, but i'm trying to build ...

You kinda need to do your own research to see what's good, although someone in here can give you recommendations for parts that are good

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:08 AM

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Even if it gave u performance I don't think it would help me run 1440p rtx mc without Upscaling

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:08 AM

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you will be 100% gpu bound in that lol

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:09 AM

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cries in 3060ti xD

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:09 AM

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my 3080 is brought to its knees running minecraft rtx with dlss on

valid sinew Apr 22, 2021, 12:09 AM

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fossil cedar You kinda need to do your own research to see what's good, although someone in h...

i see, thank you

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:09 AM

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it was very amusing seeing it slammed against the 370W PL to play minecraft of all games

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:09 AM

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Yeah, I am waiting for next pay check to get a 3080 and sell 3060ti cuz 40fps mc aint it

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:10 AM

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40 fps???

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i think something else is wrong

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:10 AM

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Without dlss yeah

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40-50

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:10 AM

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my 3600X + 3080 did 190 fps at 1440p with rtx on

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that was with dlss but i don't think you should only be getting 40 fps without dlss

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I got baby 3060ti

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I was at 100% use

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60c

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:11 AM

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i haven't tested it on my 3070

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and i am 400 miles away from my pc so i can't

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:11 AM

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Rip

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:12 AM

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i see a 3060ti doing 60 fps at 4k ultra rtx + dlss

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Also congrats on 1st dose kek

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:13 AM

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thanks

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i'm not sure what dlss mode minecraft uses

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:13 AM

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That sounds about right if I turn on dlss I get 90-120

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:13 AM

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iirc there isn't a mode selection like most dlss titles

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just on and off?

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Yep, just "Upscaling"

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:14 AM

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wonder what native is when turning it on at 4k

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:14 AM

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Has to be like 1080

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:14 AM

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i don't actually own minecraft or i'd do some more testing

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i had a customer that wanted me to install minecraft on their pc for them

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so i used their microsoft account to test rtx minecraft on my own pc

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lol

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:15 AM

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Hahaha no worries I'm just using rtx cuz Its like a trance rn

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Lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:15 AM

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wonder how my 3070M would do

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:15 AM

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Big brain

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:15 AM

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it's weaker than a desktop 3060ti

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:15 AM

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earnest olive wonder how my 3070M would do

I told my ps4 friends to try it lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:16 AM

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and i have it hooked up to my 1440p165 monitor right now

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Oh wait u cant

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:16 AM

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i only have one intensive game installed on this laptop

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the outer worlds

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Yeah that's my setup rn 1440p170

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Ooh

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Not a bad choice tbh

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:16 AM

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usually if i'm on my laptop it means i'm somewhere where i don't have a ton of time for single player gaming lol

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Also a fair point

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Busy peeps

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:17 AM

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Laptop id imagine would be good for travel or LAN party type things

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:17 AM

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yeah i'm staying over at gf's place

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not about to bring my giant pc tower

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:17 AM

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I mean...

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If it has to be done

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:18 AM

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This is why you need mini itx tower

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:18 AM

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bringing my 27" monitor was already sketch

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LOL

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Kek no

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:18 AM

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i am not going to shove my 3080 into a mini itx case

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too big

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this is my temporary setup

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:19 AM

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I’m considering building a mini itx rig with 11500 and putting a cheap card in later for travel

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:19 AM

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it's alright

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Ooh

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Cute

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That 100% kb

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I thought those didn't exist

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:19 AM

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laptop is pretty powerful not really missing my pc that much

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Yeah I don’t have money for 1500 dollar laptop tho

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Lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:20 AM

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i got it for "free"

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:20 AM

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laughs in uhd620

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Wait

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:20 AM

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filed it as an education expense

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yeah... i definitely need a 3070 laptop for school

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Sip

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:20 AM

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College paying?

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Engineering school duh

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Get quadro

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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so looking at desktop 3060ti benchmark

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Hmm can high schoolers get education expenses jk lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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the desktop 3060ti gets 11.9k in time spy graphics score

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and my laptop 3070 gets 11.1k

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Ooh

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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so it's not that far off

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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I should try time spy

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On my 3060ti

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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the laptop's cpu is slightly better than a desktop i5-10400

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Same

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 AM

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still comet lake 6c/12t but with higher boost

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sustains 4.3ghz all core and boosts up to 5ghz sometimes

full inlet Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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@earnest olive you will be happy to know I got a i5 11400 instead of a r5 5600x

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Ew

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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while i5-10400 sustains 4ghz all core with 4.3ghz max boost

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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earnest olive sustains 4.3ghz all core and boosts up to 5ghz sometimes

5ghz on a laptop processor wait

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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full inlet <@!122901618369757184> you will be happy to know I got a i5 11400 instead of a ...

good job

full inlet Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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yeah i've only actually seen it hit 5ghz once though

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usually it doesn't boost higher than 4.7

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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Some bad binned 10600ks struggling to get 5ghz oc

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:22 AM

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5600x better, cuz u gotta root for the underdog

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:23 AM

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i mean

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intel puts the best bins in premium laptops

rich helm Apr 22, 2021, 12:23 AM

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True

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:23 AM

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cause power efficiency

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5ghz laptop

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HYPERS

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:23 AM

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So all u need is a compatible mobo, sauder and desauder and boom

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Goot cpu

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Nice

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:24 AM

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well it's actually possible to use laptop cpu in desktop mobo

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aliexpress engineers figured it out

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:24 AM

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5ghz on laptop is sexy

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:24 AM

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they also took it a step further and put 9th gen laptop cpu in 7th gen desktop mobo

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:24 AM

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Dam

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:24 AM

#

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they support H110-Z370

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very impressive actually

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:25 AM

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Yeah that's pog

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:25 AM

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and this is the overclockable laptop chip so with good cooler you could make it match a 9900K

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:26 AM

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Idk y but it reminds me of a project car

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:27 AM

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https://shandianxia.aliexpress.com/store/5940103?spm=a2g0o.detail.100005.1.6217735c1oS2YH

aliexpress.com

ShanDianXiaKeJi Store - Amazing prodcuts with exclusive discounts o...

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gotta love aliexpress engineers

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they actually got their modded laptop chip to 5ghz on 8c/16t lol

olive kraken Apr 22, 2021, 12:28 AM

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That's lowk heart warming messsge

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Wth the dedication

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:29 AM

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the madmen beat a 9900K

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on a mobo that only supports up to a 7700K

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and the cpu only costs $182

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very very impressive

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lol

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the reviews are all in really broken english and posted by russians

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:32 AM

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My favorite cpu, Intel 0000

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:32 AM

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not sure if google translate or bought a click farm

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yeah that happens because it's an engineering sample

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:33 AM

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Epic

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What release cpu is it similar to?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:33 AM

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kind of impressive that cpu-z detects the original laptop socket (BGA1440)

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i9-9980HK

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Wild

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:34 AM

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i wouldn't actually buy this product or recommend buying it

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cause you gotta do stuff like custom bios to get it to run

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and maybe pin mod your socket as well

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:35 AM

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Lol yeah no way xd

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:35 AM

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but it's a cool feat of engineering

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could be an interesting way to breath new life into an older Z170 board though

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or Z270

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Is @potent portal here o3o?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:37 AM

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some of the z270 boards have pretty overbuilt vrms that can handle a 9900k but are locked to 7th gen

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he was earlier, not anymore

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why?

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Wanted him to help me with my pcpartpicker build he helped me with a few weeks ago

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:38 AM

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link it

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:38 AM

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I decided I wanted to get a full tower for my build mkay

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wYQYCz

System Builder

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I was saying mkay when you said link it.

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:39 AM

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do you have to go ryzen

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as a 5600x owner it's really not worth it over i5-11400

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hence my name

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and especially not at the $390 price tag in this list

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i regret even paying $300 for it

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:40 AM

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So it's cheaper?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:40 AM

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yeah practically identical performance but for like $180

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:40 AM

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Oh right i-5 that's intel right?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:41 AM

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you will need to get a cooler for it

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but the 5600x won't run well on stock cooler anyways

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Yeah not doing a cooler

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:41 AM

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i have my 5600x under a 360mm liquid cooler

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still runs quite toasty

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Not into the liquid cooling stuff

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:42 AM

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don't need a liquid cooler

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just a decent air cooler

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:42 AM

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I'm mainly interested in a full tower that will go well with rgb

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:42 AM

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did you specifically want your ram to be red

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because the black version of the exact same ram is like 20 cents more

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and if you're doing rgb black is a lot better than red

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the black rgb version of the same ram is another $16

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also going intel will not stop you from going rgb

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you can grab a cheap rgb tower cooler for the cpu

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:45 AM

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A full tower?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:46 AM

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...yes, you can go intel in a full tower

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atx standard has been around for like 30 years

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:46 AM

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Well my cruddy laptop is intel so I might stick with intel anyway

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:47 AM

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brand is irrelevant just buy good product for price

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good product for price currently happens to be i5-11400

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:47 AM

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Though when I see i5 I see i7, and i9, and feel like is i5 that good o3o?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:47 AM

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this cpu cooler costs only $25 and will do a much better job of cooling than that crappy amd stock cooler

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:48 AM

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i3 is good

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:48 AM

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That looks pretty nice honestly

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:48 AM

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i3/i5/i7/i9 doesn't matter

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look at individual product

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i3-10105 beats i7-4790 and matches i7-6700

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:48 AM

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10105?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:48 AM

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i5-11400 beats i7-8700 and imo beats i7-9700 too

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Didn't know that was a sku

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:49 AM

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yeah they made a comet lake refresh for the 11th gen "i3s"

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there are no real 11th gen i3s

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just 10th gen clocked 100mhz higher and put a 5 on the end of the sku name

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Neat

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:49 AM

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hmm well uhh where do I find that cooler on pcpartpicker?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:50 AM

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i am changing your part list for you

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:50 AM

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K thanks

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I plan on buying parts from cheapest to highest starting next month

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All the way to october

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:51 AM

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strongly recommend against doing that

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find gpu first due to shortage

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buy everything else at once even if you need to wait a while to save up enough money

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you don't want to hold onto a mobo for 5 months to finally build and find out it's defective and past return window

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:51 AM

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mobo?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:51 AM

#

motherboard

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Don't really have the funds to buy a gpu right now, and wanted to build a pc in time when pso2:ngs comes out.

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So I can play with friends.

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:53 AM

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how graphically intensive is it

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perhaps you can get an i5-11500 first for the upgraded integrated graphics and play it on the integrated graphics

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while you wait for gpu

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that's another advantage of intel, having integrated graphics in midrange-high end cpus

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amd only puts integrated graphics in low end cpus

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:54 AM

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https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/phantasy-star-online-2-new-genesis/20451

Requirements Test

Check the system requirements. Can I Run it? Test your specs and rate your gaming PC.

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:54 AM

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oh that is not intensive at all

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should be playable on the integrated graphics of the i5-11500, albeit not perfectly

#

but it will still be playable while you save up for GPU

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3CHgj2

System Builder

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:55 AM

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I like being able to play it without lag, and issues.

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Kind of tired of this stuff as I've been playing on laptops for most of my life

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:55 AM

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what are the specs of your current laptop

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intel upgraded their integrated graphics pretty substantially this gen

#

can actually do some decent light gaming on it

#

#

it's still not amazing but it's a lot better

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:58 AM

#

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 12:59 AM

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you'll be able to get your pc up and running before you can afford the gpu and then just slot in upgrade later

#

hmm going to assume that a laptop with a 7100u has no dedicated graphics

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 12:59 AM

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Not really

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And I still have no full tower case

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:00 AM

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so the integrated graphics of the i5-11500 should be about 3 times stronger than your laptop's graphics

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and on the cpu side it will be 6.6 times stronger

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 1:00 AM

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3 times zero is still zero thinkies

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Jk

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:00 AM

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well.. it says the game runs on a gtx 950

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that is not super graphically demanding

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 1:00 AM

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Nah

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:00 AM

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It's minimum

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:00 AM

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it won't be a perfect experience but it will definitely beat the laptop

#

the point is that you can get the pc running earlier

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and add a gpu later painlessly

#

and it will still be a substantial upgrade over your laptop before you put in the gpu

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Still gonna have to lower settings until you get the gpu

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Do all these specs work with a 3060ti gpu?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:01 AM

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absolutely

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Uhd 750 is good but not 950 good

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:01 AM

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lyric thistle Still gonna have to lower settings until you get the gpu

it's still a massive upgrade lol

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 1:01 AM

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Fosho

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:02 AM

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something is better than nothing

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:02 AM

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lyric thistle Still gonna have to lower settings until you get the gpu

I don't like hearing that sound ominous

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:02 AM

#

to be clear i am not saying the integrated graphics of the 11500 is going to be a beast at gaming

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but it will be a lot better than your laptop

#

and will be nice to have your pc running while you wait for a gpu

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:02 AM

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I do honestly agree on this

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:02 AM

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and don't underestimate how long it will take to get a gpu

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some people have been searching for one for 7-8 months by now

#

silicon shortage is brutal

#

it took me 5 months to buy my 3080

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:03 AM

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I heard about the microchip shortage that's happening

#

Also uhh

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:03 AM

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having the integrated graphics of the i5-11500 will be a nice stopgap

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Mind helping me pick a full tower as well

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:03 AM

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the one in this list is fine

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unless you want a different one for aesthetic reasons

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Uhh I just want a full tower

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:03 AM

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wait

#

you mean EATX?

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:04 AM

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Full tower pc case

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No mid tower

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:04 AM

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sure but it's going to cost a LOT more

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:04 AM

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I know

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A irl friend recommended me get one for upgrades in the future as he also did a mid tower, but it bit him in the rear end.

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:04 AM

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like $160 more

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:05 AM

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And I trust my friend that will do me no wrong

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I know

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:05 AM

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what kind of upgrade needs a full atx tower lol

#

i slapped a 3080 and a 3070 into the same mid tower

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and i also have a monitor inside it

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and 8 fans

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dunno what more you could need

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:05 AM

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I just want a full tower

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Doesn't matter the cost

#

With the way gpu prices are this is basically nothing

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:06 AM

#

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kind of bad airflow though

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but that's the cheapest one with preinstalled rgb

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:06 AM

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main iron Is <@396513761550270464> here o3o?

I am now, for a bit

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:06 AM

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hmmm is there one with a step above that with good airflow as well?

#

Hey fal'cie

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Heyo

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Was hear looking for yah

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:07 AM

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get an O11 dynamic xl and load it up with your own rgb fans

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Wanted to ask for your help with getting a full tower

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One with rgb in it.

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:07 AM

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Corsair 5000d airflow

#

Has an rgb option too

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:08 AM

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5000D airflow is a mid tower

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:08 AM

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Oh right, it's just a massive mid tower 😂

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 1:08 AM

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I won't be doing ATX

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:08 AM

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if you're really stubborn about getting a full tower just grab an O11 and stuff 9 rgb fans in it

lyric thistle Apr 22, 2021, 1:08 AM

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No upgrades that I would need to justify

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:09 AM

#

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pretty much the only airflow + looks option for a full tower

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:09 AM

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Won't buying the rgb fans seperate would cost more?

marble seal Apr 22, 2021, 1:09 AM

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you fan fit a tenth fan in the back for extra rgb

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yes

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:09 AM

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well

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no not really

#

considering how quickly the prices of these full towers go up

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:10 AM

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Yeah the O11 dynamic xl is probably your best choice

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:10 AM

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i didn't see any with good airflow for below $400 that have preinstalled rgb fans lol

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:10 AM

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P500a

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:10 AM

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that's a mid tower

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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main iron A irl friend recommended me get one for upgrades in the future as he also did a ...

Also, why would that be?

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I assume just eATX support but

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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yeah i have no idea

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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Mid towers can support eATX too

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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but he's very set on a full tower

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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P500a is practically a full tower

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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Newegg says full tower

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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i crammed an unreasonable amount of stuff into my mid tower lol

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:11 AM

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Like o11 actually supports less things than a p500a

#

Doesn't support 480 rad

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:12 AM

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full tower is going to look so empty without a gpu

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loool

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:12 AM

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Doesnt support 165mm air-coolers

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Etc

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:12 AM

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but pwetty

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:12 AM

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It's just

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Why does o11 get called full tower

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When p500a doesn't

#

Both support eATX

#

Hell, p500a supports dual systems

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I don't think o11 supports dual systems

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:13 AM

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I don't feel like there's a true standard for these things, mostly marketing I guess

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Yea mid and full tower doesn't have any standard to em

#

Like how eATX standards are wack

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:13 AM

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Well Fal'Cie since you helped me first I will follow what you recommend

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3CHgj2 also i5 helped me adjust some things

System Builder

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:14 AM

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Pick whatever you like out of these, doesn't need to be from my recommendations

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:14 AM

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Recommended i5 over a ryzen 5600

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:14 AM

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11500 specifically

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for the igpu

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:14 AM

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I was about to say, that's about the only reason for that lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:15 AM

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they don't have the gpu on hand and they are stuck on a laptop with an i3-7100U

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:15 AM

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UHD 750 is fairly decent

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:15 AM

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i5-11500 is a good way to get running

#

then drop in a gpu painlessly once they find one

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Still gets beaten by comparable vega graphics, but decent

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:15 AM

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destroys their laptop in both cpu and igpu department

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Hm, core GM is weird

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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well yeah but then you either have to get a 3400g or play the aliexpress oem seller lottery with no warranty

#

and if you get a 3400g you have to gamble on a b550 board working

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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No good reviews, supposed to be a cut-down focus, but only thing we know is a crappy sleeve fan

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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or screw your upgradability with a b450

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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my laptop specs lol

potent portal Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Or wait a few months for new chips

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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No data on caps

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:16 AM

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i have a 650 core gm

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:17 AM

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What are you running on it?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:17 AM

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handled sustained 610W of gpu power no problem

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no fan noise or anything

#

i have my 3080 and 3070 mining on it which is usually 340W but one time after the rig restarted afterburner decided not to auto apply settings and i left it mining at stock for 20 minutes before i noticed

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Dunno, says Hong Hua Sleeve bearing fan on the spreadsheet, oh well

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:18 AM

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so that's 610W sustained

#

will surely do fine with a single 3060ti

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:18 AM

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umm I still haven't decided on a full tower yet. I guess I'll go with the 229 thingy, or that cheap full tower i5 talked about

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Maybe

#

I still would suggest P500a

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:18 AM

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i put a load equivalent of 3 3060tis on it

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lol

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:18 AM

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earnest olive will surely do fine with a single 3060ti

I'm just slightly concerned about what caps are in there, but if you have had it for a while, I guess we can assume it's okay for now

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:19 AM

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yeah it has been driving my 3080+3070 24/7 for over a month now

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:19 AM

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Just not fun when there's no good reviews or data on it

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:19 AM

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So you said p500a is practically a full tower right?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:20 AM

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it is supposedly tier B

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:20 AM

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So I can upgrade it in the future with not problems?

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No problems?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:20 AM

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uses some russian reviews as the basis

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:20 AM

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P500a is really nice, you can see all the specs on expansion and all

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:20 AM

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and it has a teardown

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https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://occlub.ru/testodrom/43849-seasonic-core-gm-500-i-gm-650-obzor-vot-teper-sovsem-zamechatelno?singlepage%3D1

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google translated russian review lol

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wait

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aren't you russian?

#

can you read the original? LOL

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:21 AM

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main iron So I can upgrade it in the future with not problems?

Any normal atx case should allow you to upgrade just fine, but P500a does support some really nice stuff like eATX boards

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No

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Wrong nation

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:21 AM

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oh

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i remember someone asking you if you could read something in russian for them

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Lol

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:22 AM

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where are you from?

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Different nation

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:23 AM

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the review says the main capacitor is manufactured by hitachi in the 500W version and nippon chemi-con in the 650w version

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Won't lie I even looked at websites that did comparisons for mid tower to full towers, and they usually give the same answer.

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:23 AM

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has OPP, UVP/OVP, OCP, SCP, and OTP

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:23 AM

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Did they test them?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:23 AM

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yeah

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i linked the translated review if you want to see for yourself

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full teardown and testing

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:23 AM

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What's the triggering point for ocp? Just making sure

I'm on mobile atm lel

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:24 AM

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122% for 650W ver

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125% for 500W ver

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:24 AM

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Sounds decent

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:24 AM

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so 793W and 625W respectively

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this looks good

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less than 1% deviation from 12V at any load level

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Wish they'd just slap the data on the spreadsheet smh

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Oh yea, what about hold up time

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:25 AM

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good efficiency

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i'm running it right near the peak

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total system power around 360W

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:26 AM

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Efficiency is kinda given but yea

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:26 AM

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well

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the google translation breaks some of the tests from displaying properly

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but i cannot read the original

stoic island Apr 22, 2021, 1:26 AM

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rip

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I'll try to check again later

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:27 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-lian-li-o11-dynamic-e-atx-full-tower-case/p/2AM-000Z-00049

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this the o11?

earnest olive Apr 22, 2021, 1:27 AM

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anyways everything points to it being an excellent budget psu

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will have no issue with a single 3060ti

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i would trust it with a 3080 depending on the cpu

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and that's just for wattage reasons rather than quality reasons

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seasonic has a pretty good track record not like we're talking about an untested raidmax

main iron Apr 22, 2021, 1:29 AM

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It looks similar

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And 229

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Not bad