#building-and-recc-chat

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earnest olive
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easily flip for $700-800

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lol

odd cosmos
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but rx580 still very hard to get lol

odd cosmos
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thats some cheese lol

earnest olive
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yeah i will be waiting until after gpu shortage ends to flip it

odd cosmos
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heard that 3060 is getting a new update

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that can't mine crypto

odd cosmos
earnest olive
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i do have a use for it for now though

odd cosmos
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yea..?

earnest olive
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i am a miner and the mobo has room for 2 gpus Sip

odd cosmos
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is mining still worth it?

earnest olive
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absolutely

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pulling $1200/month rn

odd cosmos
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with that system?

earnest olive
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nah

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3080 and 4 3070s

odd cosmos
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WAIT

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4 3070s

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and a 3080

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thats gonnna take a while to make back

earnest olive
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not really, bought them all at msrp

odd cosmos
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im not an expert but idk if it's worth it in cad since electrical costs are higher

odd cosmos
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shuffle?

earnest olive
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yeah

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3080 was from refreshing

odd cosmos
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woah

earnest olive
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i intend to keep that as my main gpu after mining crashes

odd cosmos
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u have some patience alright

earnest olive
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flip the 3070s in gaming pcs

odd cosmos
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do u even work anymore lmao

earnest olive
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i've only been mining for 2 months and i'm 1 month away from paying off all of the gpus

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i am a uni student with a part time job

odd cosmos
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wow

earnest olive
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so yeah i still "work"

odd cosmos
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gonna be a millionaire before u graduate lol

earnest olive
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i used to run a small pc selling business but i shuttered it temporarily due to gpu shortage

stoic island
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btw you still build PCs or

earnest olive
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no

odd cosmos
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totally didn't know mining is that efficient

earnest olive
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but thanks to that portfolio i won't have any trouble getting rid of the hardware i have amassed later on

odd cosmos
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but i dont have the budget to go out and get a 3080 lol

stoic island
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fair

odd cosmos
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btw what r u planning to do with those gpus?

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after yk, either new ones come out or crypto doesn't work out anymore

earnest olive
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sell in gaming pcs

odd cosmos
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woah thats some profits

earnest olive
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got into a league match replies will be sparse now Sip

odd cosmos
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do u use ur personal pc to play games or one of the mining ones? lol

odd cosmos
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that is if u do use 3080 anyways

earnest olive
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i started mining in the first place because i felt my 3080 was being underused lol

odd cosmos
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wait how much was 3080?

earnest olive
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770

odd cosmos
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um thats like 900 cad

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same price as all other parts in my pc without gpu lol

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how much is 3060? i was thinking of getting one but i got 550W power supply idk if it will work

stoic island
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330 usd msrp

potent portal
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A good 550 should be enough for a 3060

odd cosmos
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Corsair CP-9020122-NA CX Series 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze Certified Non-Modular Power Supply

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this one

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it was on sale for only 60 cad

potent portal
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CX is good

odd cosmos
earnest olive
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i can mine while playing league and lose only about 10% of the hashrate of one card

odd cosmos
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thats how good a 3080 is 😭

odd cosmos
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with i5-11500

potent portal
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Yes that should be fine

odd cosmos
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does it bottleneck?

earnest olive
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actually i run games on 3070 now

potent portal
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The power? or the CPU?

odd cosmos
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cpu

earnest olive
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3070 loses less than 3080

potent portal
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No it'll be fine

odd cosmos
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ok

stoic island
odd cosmos
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thats only 400 cad pretty good price ngl

odd cosmos
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3070, or 3080 both enough to run pretty much everything right

odd cosmos
stoic island
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see the "sometimes"

earnest olive
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i mean

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3080 loses 20% mining speed running league

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3070 loses 10%

odd cosmos
odd cosmos
odd cosmos
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then get them to ship it to me

vagrant olive
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how much should i sell my lightly used 3060 in box for
never mined on it, just played like csgo and stuff on it

odd cosmos
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since im in canada remember lol

odd cosmos
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😎

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jkjk

earnest olive
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honestly not sure but 3070 is just better mining card in general

odd cosmos
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really?

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how come it's better?

earnest olive
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2/3 of the hashrate of the 3080 for half the power draw

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and availability is much better than 3080

odd cosmos
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oh wait they nerfed it right

earnest olive
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which is why i've been able to get 4 3070s but only 1 3080 lol

odd cosmos
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so "gamers" can actually buy it

earnest olive
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nah

odd cosmos
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oh

earnest olive
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neither 3080 nor 3070 is nerfed

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gddr6x is just very power hungry

odd cosmos
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read an article this morning saying they did and making it even worse with new model or smt

odd cosmos
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how much is electricity is ur area?

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to make 1200 net a month

odd cosmos
potent portal
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The 3060 was supposed to be nerfed but only for etherium, and they accidentally released a driver that worked around that so they pwned themselves

stoic island
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yep

odd cosmos
vagrant olive
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so im gonna sell my current one

odd cosmos
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but they gonna release a new one apparently

earnest olive
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about 0.2 cad per kwh

odd cosmos
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hopefully easier to get

odd cosmos
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dont even know honestly lol

odd cosmos
vagrant olive
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im probably going to sell it for what i paid, but idk maybe ill add like $50

odd cosmos
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um, idk maybe someone else can help you, sorrryyyy

odd cosmos
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u can prob add more than 50

vagrant olive
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ahaha

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i dont want to be an awful person

odd cosmos
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aw thats nice lol

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but really, don't think people selling it for 400 these days

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it's pretty new right

vagrant olive
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yeah, i paid 560 after tax and shipping for it. ouch.

odd cosmos
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oh

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not from shuffle?

vagrant olive
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nope

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zotacstore

odd cosmos
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oh then

vagrant olive
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i hate shuffle, the mobo and psu combos drive the prices up a ton

odd cosmos
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yea

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but yk, it is what it is

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the fact that they are doing it is nice

vagrant olive
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yeah the only other way to get a card is bestbuy

odd cosmos
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very hard these days lol

vagrant olive
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amazon is bot heaven

odd cosmos
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yea and walmart

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lol

vagrant olive
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yup

potent portal
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Neither of them care about consumers at all, only that they get money

odd cosmos
vagrant olive
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no company does lmao

potent portal
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To them the money is the same no matter where it comes from

stoic island
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Amazon's website sucks

potent portal
vagrant olive
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actually zotac was pretty nice, there was a vpn exploit where buy groups were buying all the stock on their site while everyone else was blacklisted

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and they fixed it for the next drop

odd cosmos
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people these days

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finding exploits to get a gpu

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😕

stoic island
vagrant olive
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yeah

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bestbuys shipping/pickup thing is weird

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i had a 3070 fe in cart last drop and they didnt want to ship it and no stores within 250miles

odd cosmos
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in canada, canadacomputers is actually kinda vaild when trying to get gpu or cpu

stoic island
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according to hei, nothing has stock in canada

odd cosmos
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yea but something like best buy

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it's impossible to get a gpu here in cad

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while i had a friend get a 1660 super

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at canadacomputers

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market pretty horrible

hexed hull
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Is a 2060 for 500 worth it from micro center

potent portal
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No

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You could get a 3060 ti for that price

opal halo
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Get a 2070 super

hearty mist
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got a new mouse

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stoic island
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nice

midnight vigil
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MSI MAG B560M BAZOOKA?

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for intel core i5-11400f

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can i upgrade to an i7 at some point with that

frank stirrup
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better to get amd if you want to upgrade

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like a b550 board

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and a ryzen 5

fossil cedar
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R5 5600x is bit of budget jump over 11400f tho

stoic island
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answer is yes

cold sorrel
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I spent a while here getting advice before I bought all my parts. The only advice I sort of ignored was to downgrade the motherboard to a cheaper b550. (What I got was a b550 still, just not the cheapest one.)

fossil cedar
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That's fine, some features are worth paying for for some people

cold sorrel
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I wanted an integrated I/O shield, wifi, at least one aRGB header, and a board that had no tacky color accents.

fossil cedar
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That's fair

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The io shield and wifi usually up the price compared to a cheaper board you can also spend more on a board with better vrms

cold sorrel
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The one I went for was like $179 on Amazon. It's not like I spent 300 bucks on a mobo.

fossil cedar
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That's fine tbh

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That's a nice mobo range

merry cove
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When you use almost full power of power supply it safe

muted patio
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Depends on the power supply

merry cove
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Let say you have 600w and you use 534 it gone damaged you pc

muted patio
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It literally depends on the PSU make and model

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SOme can handle it some can't

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And how did you come up with 534 watts?

merry cove
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My is my cpu is 95w

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And my gpu is 100e

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W*

muted patio
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What CPU?

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TDP isn't power draw

merry cove
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RYZEN 5 3600x

odd cosmos
merry cove
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And my power supply is evga

odd cosmos
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and 5600x is so much more expensive

muted patio
odd cosmos
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i just dont think its worth the money

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at that point u can basically get 11600k

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or smt

muted patio
merry cove
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Right here

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muted patio
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SHould be all right but PSU's run best at 80-85% capacity

merry cove
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It should be fine right no damage

muted patio
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Should be but pushing a power supply isn't always the best idea. A little overhead is a good thing

frank stirrup
odd cosmos
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ok fair

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but for rn, i would go with intel but if u wanna upgrade then ig ryzen is the way to go

full atlas
frank stirrup
frank stirrup
odd cosmos
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esp u r considering going with igpu until yk, something comes up

rich helm
fossil cedar
rich helm
fossil cedar
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true but maybe they just want to have a youtube video open while gaming or somethign lol

hallow glen
fossil cedar
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Whoever sent that and deleted it don't get a 11600k

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Especially only on a b560

hallow glen
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ok

fossil cedar
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I'd get 11400

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And an id cooling se 224xt, gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5 for the cooler instead of the aio

hallow glen
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k

fossil cedar
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Unless you want aio for looks but idk how good that aio is, my go to recommendation for aio is arctic freezer ii

muted patio
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Which AIO, the EK?

hallow glen
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yeah i had the ek on

muted patio
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EK is right behind the Arctic in terms of performance

fossil cedar
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Fair enough

muted patio
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GN has tested them

fossil cedar
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I wasn't sure about that specific ek aio

muted patio
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Most people go EK for RGB tho

robust lake
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It has rgb so it is betterPogU

muted patio
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It's the same as the RGB

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Same pump, rad and fans just not RGB

fossil cedar
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You can just use the included thermal paste btw

hallow glen
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hmmm

desert gulch
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It's actually a p pog price too

hallow glen
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isnt arctic silver really good?

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thermal paste

desert gulch
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I like mx5

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Its my personal choice stuff

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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Mx5

fossil cedar
hallow glen
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oh]

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im just going to go with the ek aio bc they look cool

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and imma go with the rgb one

fossil cedar
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Okay

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But the included paste it's fine tbh

desert gulch
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Mx5 exists

hallow glen
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ok

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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And it's pretty kool

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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Idk difference

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Was better price

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And I'm rly happy with it

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So it's kinda my favorite stuff now

muted patio
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MX5 is supposed to last longer than MX4

fossil cedar
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Ahh

muted patio
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Kryonaut still king

fossil cedar
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Well isn't that like 20$ per gram or something?

hallow glen
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its 9 dollars a gram

muted patio
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Ye

hallow glen
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is 1g enough for a cpu?

fossil cedar
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Ohh nvm I'm thinking of the liquid metal or something

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Tbh the included one is fine there isn't that much of a diff

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But yeah

hallow glen
muted patio
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Difference in pastes is anywhere from 1-3C for the most part

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So yeah, kinda not worth it

fossil cedar
hallow glen
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k

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do u need that for intel?

rich helm
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For 11th gen it’s better

fossil cedar
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You don't need anything more than 2133mhz but it's a lot better

hallow glen
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ok

fossil cedar
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Also gl getting the 6800xt, yikes big budget for that

hallow glen
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just want a pc Yawy

fossil cedar
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Fair enough lol

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3080 might be better option for bit cheaper? But up to you

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Really depends on what you can find

hallow glen
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3080s are going for 2k

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🤷

fossil cedar
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Ohh you're gonna buy off of ebay :/

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Big oof for wallet

hallow glen
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yeah

robust lake
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Just wait

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You will get one

fast burrow
fossil cedar
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^

fast burrow
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And don’t ever fork over 2k for a card that’s not worth 2k

hallow glen
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yeah

earnest olive
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2k is low for a scalped 3080

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seen them for 2.6 on ebay

hallow glen
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damn

languid sparrow
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what would be a good amd cpu for a 3060 ti

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?

earnest olive
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why amd

hallow glen
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budget?

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yeah

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and why amd

earnest olive
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do you enjoy paying more money for less performance

languid sparrow
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budget 380

hallow glen
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you could get a intel 11400 and a b560 for that price

languid sparrow
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I cannot get a intel motherboard that fits with my build well

hallow glen
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ah ok

earnest olive
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why not?

languid sparrow
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first of all size

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and color is off

earnest olive
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...?

hallow glen
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they have atx

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and matx

earnest olive
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intel and amd mobos use the same size form factors

hallow glen
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and all of them

languid sparrow
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I am goint with a super small build

hallow glen
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they have itx

languid sparrow
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like micro atx

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or itx

earnest olive
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lol..

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microatx is abundant

languid sparrow
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so what cpus can I get

earnest olive
languid sparrow
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so what should I get the amd or intel?

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cpu?

earnest olive
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the ryzen 5 3600 is $250 right now

languid sparrow
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Wow

stoic island
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Right now, Intel wins

earnest olive
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10400/11400 seems like an obvious choice to me

languid sparrow
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for a 3060 ti btw

earnest olive
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for a 3060ti you should be fine with just a 10400

stoic island
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because 10400, basically a 3600, is ~170$, and 11400, better than 3600, is ~200$
:P

languid sparrow
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whaqt about a 11400

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what*

earnest olive
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10400 can be found as cheap as $110 at microcenter

stoic island
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damn

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that's really nice

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10400 non-f?

languid sparrow
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I will be doing mostly gaming

earnest olive
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nah it's the F

languid sparrow
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if that helps

stoic island
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ah

stoic island
hallow glen
languid sparrow
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yes

earnest olive
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he's talking about the 3060ti so much there's no way he doesn't have it lol

hallow glen
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yeah

languid sparrow
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lol

hallow glen
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thats a nice card

languid sparrow
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thx

earnest olive
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nice find

hallow glen
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looking to get myself a 3080

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or amd equivalent

earnest olive
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put the 3080 in your 2012 mac or you're a coward

hallow glen
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im not a coward ill do it

earnest olive
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do it

hallow glen
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ok

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how do i set up a eGPu

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hmm

earnest olive
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why egpu just go full scuffed with wifi slot to pcie x16 adapter

hallow glen
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yesss

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i would have to take apart the entire thing

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||im pretty sure this is satire||

stoic island
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m.2_e to m.2_m to pcie x16, shouldn't be that hard

hallow glen
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no please

earnest olive
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connecting gpu to wifi slot has actually been done before

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wifi slot running at like, pcie 2 x1

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lol

stoic island
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and I just found the adapters to be able to do it

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ez

hallow glen
earnest olive
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etsy LOL

muted patio
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Etsy cringe

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Guaranteed scam

hallow glen
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ok

stoic island
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what the heck is the spacing on that

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the formatting just makes it look like a scam

muted patio
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Any GPU on Etsy is a scam. XD

earnest olive
rich helm
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I like to contact people on offerup

earnest olive
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they handmade a 3080... impressive

hallow glen
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this card on ebay is 1500...it has a lot of photos

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ghmmm

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oop its broken

rich helm
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How to know if someone is scamming on offerup: they ask to do payment other than through offerup

earnest olive
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well just because they have one doesn't mean they are going to send it to you

hallow glen
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what did i expect

balmy patio
earnest olive
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i heard offerup's buyer protection is fake anyways

muted patio
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Pretty much

earnest olive
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a ton of reviews where a customer got shipped a box of rocks and offerup said "lol who cares bye"

rich helm
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Oof

muted patio
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Yep

rich helm
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Also scam when they start starting every sentence with sir

earnest olive
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been avoiding offerup as a result

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i saw some good deals on it

rich helm
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Sir, this is 100% real, shipping through fedex 100% guaranteed

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Not a scam at all

balmy patio
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that 100% too lmao

odd cosmos
rich helm
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Sir, I just need to do zelle payment. I promise you sir it’s not a scam

odd cosmos
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lemme just hand make some 3080s real quick

muted patio
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What is zelle

earnest olive
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bank transfer app with no fees

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i use it for my local sales but anyone using it for an online sale is 100% scamming

rich helm
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Equivalent to mailing cash

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No way to get it back

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Ever

earnest olive
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zelle is my preferred payment method for local pc sales

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just cause it goes to my bank account instantly

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venmo takes 3 days and cash i have to deposit it myself

hallow glen
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you build pcs?

earnest olive
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ye

hallow glen
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kewl

rich helm
earnest olive
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paypal g&s better

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2.9% fee and real buyer protection lol

rich helm
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Even with just a PayPal payment not through eBay?

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I thought that buyer protection only applied to eBay

earnest olive
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paypal goods & services is different from paypal friends & family

fossil cedar
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^

earnest olive
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you send an invoice

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they pay it with a 2.9% fee

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seller must attach evidence and detailed description of item

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i've used paypal g&s to successfully buy some expensive stuff with really low fee

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scammers don't really want to mess with paypal

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alright i got work to do bye

distant spoke
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Can someone help me, My custom pc was working fine for a year but suddenly isn't booting into windows, and I already checked that the bios is detecting my boot ssd. It posts but doesn't load into windows. Help pls

odd cosmos
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ssd malfunction?

little osprey
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Having a issue with 6800xt I run a game runs decent then when I move there will be fps fluctuating from like 40,60 to 200,390 weird even when I'm not moving in the game, sometimes it does the opposite it'll sit at 60 then when I move it goes to 200 max setting ls btw, then after a while I'll get a driver crash error and then it'll not respond and if I run again it'll do same thing, is it a ram not being fully unlocked in bios or something else

odd cosmos
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oh nvm

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didn't read entire thing lol

distant spoke
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Yea windows is now trying to automatically repair

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If that doesn't work imma have to reinstall windows

stoic island
rich helm
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Maybe should of snatched

odd cosmos
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try searching on reddit lol

distant spoke
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Frick I have to reinstall windows

little osprey
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It's all games Diablo 3 , steam games ,dbz kakarot, build is 570x steel legend wifi ax, ryzen 7 5700x, msi gaming trio 6800xt,1 tb nvme firecuda 520,8gigx4-32g Trident neo 3600,enermax 850w revolution, Inwin jupiter aoi cooler @stoic island

stoic island
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5800x..?

little osprey
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Yes

stoic island
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And what's the cooler...?

little osprey
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Inwin jupiter aoi

stoic island
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The inwin sr36 aio....?

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@little osprey anyways, have you enabled xmp?

little osprey
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Yes

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Now I have before I didnt

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The crash is gone but the frames are not as stable as when I first got it

fossil cedar
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Are your drivers and windows up to date?

little osprey
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I still have stuttering it'll be at 200 300 then go down to 60

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Yes

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Bios flashed

fossil cedar
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And do you have the amd chipset drivers installed?

stoic island
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Do you have afterburner and rtss? That'll be more helpful to identify the behavior

little osprey
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I have adrenaline

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Has both chip sets no?

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I have ryzen master utility

stoic island
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Adrenaline might, it's got lots of things

fossil cedar
little osprey
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Yes

stoic island
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Afterburner+rtss has an option for a realtime frametime chart, which is really nice for spotting stuttering or just overall avg fps being bad

little osprey
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I have the master utility set to default gaming spec

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I'll check it out

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People were saying you don't need after burner if you use the master utility tool

stoic island
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Here's the thing

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Afterburner is mostly used for overclocking, but it also has a feature that lets you use an on-screen-display, and the OSD is very useful

little osprey
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K

stoic island
little osprey
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Thanks

stoic island
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:)

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Anyways, the OSD also let's you see a lot of other useful information real-time, which will be useful for seeing what may be causing the problem

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For example, temperature being like 100c means it's throttling

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You could watch frequency to see if it's just not boosting correctly

little osprey
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hey everyone . I have weird question lol so I have thunderbolt 2 interface and wanna use it on PC 🤔 any way to connect it ? 🤔🤔

rich helm
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?

celest sun
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On that note, has anyone used a GPU enclosure with Thunderbolt 3? Curious about power levels and cooling

final void
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Can anyone help me build a partlist for a $1,800 USD PC? My friend is interested but I'm not sure exactly what to recommend him since I haven't been in the loop of PCs for a while. He's gonna use it for mainly video production/rendering/photography and daily use.

rich helm
little osprey
merry cove
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It gigabyte x570 good for RYZEN 5 3600x

rich helm
rich helm
merry cove
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How about b450

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It is fine

rich helm
fossil cedar
celest sun
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I went into this knowing that, but still I persisted.

rich helm
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@final void before you get parts list, win a 3070/cheaper 3080 from shuffle

celest sun
#

$4000 later

final void
#

I havent really been in the loop for PC stuff in a while so i got no idea

#

lmao

fossil cedar
rich helm
# final void wdym?

Graphics cards are really hard to get rn and for that budget I recommend one of those two.

merry cove
#

It b450 good for RYZEN 5 3600

fossil cedar
#

So there's no GPUs in stock

celest sun
#

I paid $2500 on ebay back in january for 3090 strix

final void
#

Ah

celest sun
#

its like 3000 now

rich helm
fossil cedar
rich helm
#

Msrp of 3090 strix is 2000+ anyways right

celest sun
#

Yeah, 2300 at checkout after taxs

rich helm
#

@final void there is a shuffle rn

celest sun
#

now anyways..

final void
#

Can you build the partlist with the GPUs and I can probably wait to buy it for him

rich helm
little osprey
final void
#

Oh alright thanks

#

Are the shuffles just like raffles to buy them?

#

Like with shoe releases?

marble seal
celest sun
#

Im still cringing, the performance was worth it tho

#

guaranteed 4k 60 ultra with any game

marble seal
#

ive got a gigabyte one for now till prices come down, but its not compat with ekwb like the strix

#

also ugly

rich helm
final void
rich helm
final void
#

Ah wasnt sure

#

He wanted the budget at like 1.8k cuz he has 2k to spend on a pc/monitor and he wants to save 200 for the monitor

rich helm
#

Technically if he is using nvenc encoder he wouldn’t need such a good cpu

rich helm
jovial vine
#

hey im doing my first build, and an i3 can run a 2080 right?

potent portal
#

850 is a little overkill on PSU

potent portal
jovial vine
#

im joking im not that stupid

rich helm
#

Not even that bad of a combo

#

If it’s 1440p

potent portal
#

But really though a i3 11100 wouldn't hold back a 2080 that much

#

It's all about single core perf

jovial vine
#

what if a have 8 gigs of ram

potent portal
#

That would be a bit more of a problem lol

rich helm
#

2080 is not super extreme compared to like 3060ti +

final void
#

its just a bit higher than the budget

potent portal
#

Was there a specific reason for 32GB?

final void
#

PC is gonna be mainly for just video/photography

#

and daily use

rich helm
final void
#

yea

potent portal
#

Gotcha

#

Probably have to drop down to a 3060 ti to fit the $1800

fossil cedar
rich helm
#

Yes

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
potent portal
#

Ah true the 850 is on promo

final void
#

Tysm

potent portal
#

No problem

odd cosmos
#

y'all think this is a good deal?

#

B560M STEEL LEGEND for $169.99 cad

fossil cedar
#

Asrock hates intel

potent portal
#

True

fossil cedar
#

Just get that instead

potent portal
#

Plus Canada Computers has that same board for $155

fossil cedar
#

Like 17$ more

odd cosmos
#

uh i might have bought it uh

odd cosmos
fossil cedar
#

Ohh it will be fine

odd cosmos
#

it's not horrible is it?

#

do i need to return?

fossil cedar
#

It'll be fine

odd cosmos
#

ok

odd cosmos
potent portal
#

Ehhh it should be ok if you don't mess with the BIOS too much

odd cosmos
#

bios?

#

thats a stupid question isn't it lol

potent portal
#

No that's a valid question

#

The BIOS is the interface that controls the basic hardware such as the processor and storage

odd cosmos
#

oh ok so basically alll the mob settings?

potent portal
#

Asrock BIOS tends to be a little finicky

#

Yes the mobo settings

odd cosmos
#

ok

#

thats not a problem cause im not very smart when it comes to computers

#

so i wont do anything

#

and dont know how to 😎

potent portal
#

Just make sure to enable XMP for the memory but besides that defaults usually work

odd cosmos
#

btw about the mail-in rebate, do u know how it works?

potent portal
odd cosmos
final void
potent portal
#

The XMP setting will make your memory run at its fastest rated speed

odd cosmos
odd cosmos
potent portal
final void
#

How would that be?

odd cosmos
#

good that i got some 3600 memory at a good price lol

final void
#

How much would that be*

odd cosmos
potent portal
odd cosmos
#

i saw a video that shoed the asrock having a disk as the drives but how am i supposed to download the drives if i can't put the disk in my computer?

potent portal
odd cosmos
#

ok

#

then make it max irght?

earnest olive
#

no need to apologize for questions we were all new to computers once

odd cosmos
#

when it arrives can i ask for some help here lol

potent portal
#

If you're just setting the XMP all you need to do is turn it on

odd cosmos
odd cosmos
fossil cedar
odd cosmos
#

about the disk drives, how will i install them?

earnest olive
#

a year ago i dropped thermal paste into my ram slots, freaked out, and ended up getting it out with an electric toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol

odd cosmos
#

or can i do them separately online rather than using the verision in the disk

potent portal
odd cosmos
#

yea

#

oh ok

earnest olive
#

now i make tens of thousands of dollars a year selling pcs

#

we all start somewhere

odd cosmos
#

so the disk it comes with doesn't matter irght

potent portal
#

No the drivers on the disk will be out of date anyway

odd cosmos
#

ok

fossil cedar
earnest olive
#

lol who even has a disk drive anymore

odd cosmos
#

why would they ship them anyhow?

odd cosmos
#

i watched a video and it said u can download the drivers from a disk

earnest olive
#

time management

odd cosmos
#

and i realized i didn't have a disk drive

#

to actually put the disk

potent portal
odd cosmos
#

oh lmao

#

welp

#

but those things arent that expensive so prob dont cost much for them to make

potent portal
#

Yeah it's only a few cents per disk

odd cosmos
#

yea

#

btw whats the point of mail-in rebates?

#

why can't u just send in a digital verision?

potent portal
#

Another relic of ancient eras, some places do offer digital rebates but not everyone has evolved to that point

hardy kiln
#

how do i save money with a build

muted patio
#

TO make people think they're getting a good deal then they forget to send in the MIR so the manu still makes full price

rich helm
earnest olive
#

yup

rich helm
#

You must make a ton of builds and make a lot per build

earnest olive
#

on pause due to gpu shortage sadly

#

now i'm just mining instead

#

i miss building pcs though

hardy kiln
#

are they still fun building even after hundreds of builds

earnest olive
#

hell yeah

#

except when you get a defective part and have to troubleshoot

rich helm
#

Yeah I got interested in flipping but I am putting it on pause

earnest olive
#

it's really cool seeing customers happy with their new system

#

one mom sent me a video of her kid playing valorant on it and saying thank you lol

rich helm
#

I want to flip just because you get to build many different PCs

#

I have built about 34 very similar PCs but nothing really different

earnest olive
#

using a bunch of different hardware means i have a lot of overclocks to submit to hwbot too

#

lol

odd cosmos
#

i have to drive like 2km and pay a shipping fee to be able to get like 15 dollars back

#

so not worth it honestly

potent portal
#

That's sadly the point

potent portal
odd cosmos
#

so annoying

#

they make it seem like u can save some money

#

then hit u with reality

potent portal
#

Only about 1/3 of rebates actually get sent in so the manufacturer doesn't lose much money

odd cosmos
#

yea unfortunately

coarse coral
#

i'm 20 for 20 on rebates

odd cosmos
#

my ram just arriveeddd!

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

your favorite part is getting defective hardware?

#

O_O

#

once i got 6 defective pieces in one build and i was so confused swapping stuff between test benches

#

ended up returning everything

#

idk how it's even possible to get that unlucky

#

99% of my builds go flawlessly and then one has 6 defective pieces

royal shore
#

Longtime laptop gamer, but starting my first PC build. Thoughts on this? Anything you’d change and why? Thanks and happy hunting for GPUs! 😂

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB(2x16GB) DDR4-3600 CL18
Storage: 1x WD Black SN850 1TB M.2
1x Samsung 980 Pro 2TB M.2
GPU: RTX 3080 or RX 6700XT
Case: Corsair iCUE 5000X RGB ATX
PSU: Corsair HXi 1000W 80+ Platinum Fully Modular

stoic island
#

Well, you should use pcpartpicker to start off.

#

And what's your total budget, and the purpose?

frank stirrup
#

Just something very satisfying when you find the reason behind the pc not working

stoic island
frank stirrup
#

And its a challenge that regular pc building doesn’t give tbh

muted patio
#

Save money, get a PCI-E Gen 3 SSD. PCI-E 4.0 is overkill. Big difference between 3080 and 6700XT, did you mean 6800 or 6800XT? Lastly, get 3600C16 ballistix RGB and trim the timings down or bump the speed to 3800. Corsair ram is overpriced and kinda poopy.

stoic island
#

Yea, it's just too much to tell them that at once, gonna see if they can slap it in pcpp so we can throw them an upgraded list

#

I'd also change case

frank stirrup
#

Still one of my favourite things to do

stoic island
#

5000x is the solid front panel one with rgb fans iirc

earnest olive
#

🗑️

#

why do they even bother putting fans in front of a solid panel

#

decoration i guess

stoic island
#

It's just

#

Wack things

frank stirrup
muted patio
#

There was like 1 per day for a while there

stoic island
#

If trouble gets tossed here, half the time it's very troublesome

frank stirrup
#

It gives a challenge

stoic island
#

Fun when you do find the issue but

#

Sometimes there is no solution you know

earnest olive
#

the ssd was so messed up it somehow destroyed another mobo i used to test it too

#

who knows how

stoic island
#

Lol

muted patio
#

Gimme stop codes and a file name. NYEHE

earnest olive
#

never turned on again after plugging in that ssd

frank stirrup
earnest olive
#

and it was working perfectly before

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
frank stirrup
#

I mean power delivery on the x570 would be better for an 8 core cpu tbh

earnest olive
#

irrelevant

stoic island
earnest olive
#

my $150 b550 board will easily handle an OC 5950X

muted patio
#

And maybe WhoCrashed and a couple files

stoic island
frank stirrup
stoic island
#

Chipset has absolutely nothing to do with VRMs

#

Arguably the worst VRMs on any am4 board from the past 2 years are on x570 boards

#

:p

muted patio
#

ALA Asrock Z490 not handling 11600K overclock XD

earnest olive
#

even the bottom of the barrel cheapest b550m boards possible will be able to handle a 5800x tbh

muted patio
#

490 or 590? Can't remember now

frank stirrup
muted patio
#

Uh, no

earnest olive
#

false

frank stirrup
#

There are always exceptions tho

stoic island
#

Like I might even trust a b550 ds3h over a MSI x570-a pro

earnest olive
#

that's just

stoic island
#

It was so trash

earnest olive
#

completely and utterly false

stoic island
#

Just

muted patio
#

board makers learned hard lessons on X570 LOL

stoic island
#

Please

frank stirrup
#

Ah I see

#

My bad

stoic island
#

Please please please don't think more money more better

frank stirrup
stoic island
#

It's a bad mindset

earnest olive
#

asrock z490 phantom gaming 4 failed to run a 10900K at stock (crashed) and could not even boot at 5 ghz

stoic island
#

Yep

earnest olive
#

there are h410 boards that can run stock 10900K

#

let alone b460

frank stirrup
#

Oof

stoic island
#

@earnest olive pretty sure multiple asrock z490 boards failed stock 10900k

earnest olive
#

yeah

stoic island
#

I remember the comment on the lga1200 list

earnest olive
#

asrock's entire z490 lineup except for their itx board was pure ewaste

#

lmao

stoic island
#

Yea

earnest olive
#

shame cause they make some good amd boards

#

dunno why they hate intel

stoic island
#

Eh, they're meh

earnest olive
#

good for price i should say

stoic island
#

I don't think they have any really good boards

#

Yea they're decent boards

earnest olive
#

they have some boards with top tier price/perf

#

remember the days of $80 b450 pro4 before b550 came out

#

pepperidge farm remembers

stoic island
#

Nahhhh

frank stirrup
#

Asrock bios is pretty bad imo

stoic island
#

What was it, 74$ for b450 ds3h?

earnest olive
#

b550 pro4 is one of the cheapest boards with post codes i think

stoic island
#

Maybe even 64$

earnest olive
#

yeah but the pro4 is a hell of a lot better than ds3h lol

stoic island
#

There's no way

earnest olive
#

it does lol

#

it saved me when i was trying to troubleshoot a b550 pro4 build not booting

#

i never would have caught it if it wasn't for the post code

#

it was the usb bluetooth adapter preventing boot lmao

#

there's no physical display on the board but it shows post code on the bios splash screen

#

physical display is better but that's already a really impressive feature to have on such a cheap board

#

$109 for the matx version

#

$135 atx

#

my $150 b550 aorus elite doesn't have post codes

stoic island
#

@earnest olive where the heck is the post code

fossil cedar
#

tbh ik its a bit cheap but my b450m ds3h hasnt given me many problems

earnest olive
#

bottom right corner of bios splash screen

#

YMMV but i was never able to get 3600mhz ram working on b450m ds3h

stoic island
#

What

earnest olive
#

b450 pro4 could do 3600c16

stoic island
#

Bios screen

#

For post code

#

HM?

earnest olive
#

used like 5 ds3h and none of them ever posted with 3600mhz ram

stoic island
#

Are we talking about the same thing?

earnest olive
#

yes

#

the 2 hexadecimal digit code

stoic island
#

There's no display on the board

earnest olive
#

yeah

#

i'm saying

#

it shows post codes on that screen

stoic island
#

We're talking about different things then

earnest olive
#

not on the board itself

muted patio
#

Yeah but it has to post to get the post code?

stoic island
#

The post code display on the board itself is much more valuable

earnest olive
#

absolutely

#

but we're talking about a $110 board here

stoic island
#

Asrock does have the cheapest board with post code iirc

#

But not pro4

earnest olive
muted patio
#

LED"s are cheap, there's no reason to NOT have them on a motherboard in 2021 lol

earnest olive
#

i assume it has to get to a certain point first

#

but it's still a useful feature

stoic island
#

For most of us, troubleshooting has to do with no display, aka. that is useless

#

And generally, when we say mobo has post code, we mean there's a display on the motherboard.

earnest olive
#

i've only worked with one board that had a display on the mobo

#

and it was $300

stoic island
#

Asrock has a board that's like 190

#

On sale for 140 once

earnest olive
#

x570 taichi

stoic island
#

I can't remember the name

#

No

#

It's b550

earnest olive
#

no i meant mine

stoic island
#

Ye

earnest olive
#

i've used $200 mobos with no display

#

having something at all on a $110 board is impressive

stoic island
#

It's just

#

Very unimpressive to me

earnest olive
#

used a z490 strix-g with no display

#

that thing was like $240

stoic island
earnest olive
#

well it added value in saving me hours of troubleshooting

stoic island
#

PG velocita was the board

#

It has an actual post code

earnest olive
#

i was looking at that board

#

but no sata port on the bottom is a dealbreaker for me

royal shore
stoic island
#

@royal shore I mean pcpartpicker is better for sharing the list lol

#

It's much easier to make changes on there

earnest olive
#

it's a shame cause i like the board otherwise

#

it's astounding to me how few b550 boards have sata on the bottom

#

sata on the right is hideous

royal shore
earnest olive
#

3080 and 6700xt live on different planets Sip

royal shore
earnest olive
#

don't need an account to share a list

stoic island
#

Even on phone you can easily share

Screenshot_20210419-160859.png
earnest olive
#

only need an account for saving lists, creating completed build posts, and adding custom parts

stoic island
#

nice to have account tho

earnest olive
#

well yeah i use all of those features heavily

stoic island
#

I just use custom parts

earnest olive
#

i got some money out of making completed build posts

#

silicon power sponsored me some ram

stoic island
#

Oh yea did they send anything else after that?

earnest olive
#

nah

#

but hey i'll take the free $100

still roostBOT
#
bootybeatboxer#2342 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

earnest olive
#

send a pcpartpicker list instead of a wall of text

royal shore
#

lol my b

earnest olive
#

case is bad

#

ram is bad

#

do you really need gen4 nvme ssds?

#

$560 psu?

#

i think you are underestimating the price of a 3080

ancient wraith
#

What's this

muted patio
#

iSCSI is a name i've not seen in a long long time

#

What are you trying to do?

ancient wraith
#

I just turned on my pc

earnest olive
#

never heard of iSCSI lol

ancient wraith
#

I wasn't doing anything

earnest olive
#

what is it vintage?

muted patio
#

It's for external iSCSI drives

#

SCSI drives

#

Via ethernet

#

XD

#

truly vintage things

ancient wraith
#

Idk what that is

royal shore
#

@earnest olive PSU I actually already got on sale for 450. Case I may switch for the 5000D airflow, that better?

SSD wise, maybe not, but I don't want any hiccups and want to future proof a bit

earnest olive
#

oh wow this is mid 1980s stuff

stoic island
#

Alright, I'll make my edits

#

uh on sale?

ancient wraith
#

But what do I do

stoic island
#

450$ on sale?

earnest olive
#

you spent 450 on a psu???

muted patio
stoic island
#

hm

ancient wraith
#

And why is it there

stoic island
#

It's HXi but still

#

oh well

muted patio
#

But IDK why WIndows 10 is showing you that?

stoic island
#

high end PSUs are oos

earnest olive
#

dude, i'm running an rtx 3080 AND an rtx 3070 on a $90 psu

muted patio
ancient wraith
#

Yes

stoic island
earnest olive
#

why did you spend $450 on a psu for a single gpu

#

corsair txm750 @stoic island

ancient wraith
#

Should I click yes

stoic island
#

oh

#

wait what

#

@earnest olive how are you running both while mining

muted patio
#

hold on

earnest olive
#

i'm actually running them on an even lower end psu now

stoic island
#

does it just have loose ocp or smth?

earnest olive
#

and no problems

stoic island
#

anyways

earnest olive
#

seasonic focus 650 gold

muted patio
earnest olive
#

total system power is like 360W

#

is the psu still returnable? cause this is a gigantic waste of money

stoic island
#

Rosewill capstone is an A tier PSU that used to sell for ~1200w for 100$

#

anyways

#

@earnest olive high end PSUs all oos for some reason but

#

eh

#

wait it's just a 3080 build

#

revo d.f.

earnest olive
#

yeah it's a single 3080

ancient wraith
#

Wait what

earnest olive
#

why spend $450 on psu lol

ancient wraith
#

Ok I clicked it

stoic island
#

I'll just go edit the list and brb

muted patio
royal shore
#

hmm, pcpp had my wattage at 559 so I did the x 1.5 and got 838.5, I figured if I ever want to beef up I would rather not be hovering right at 850W @earnest olive

ancient wraith
#

What is scsi

stoic island
#

ehm

ancient wraith
muted patio
#

850 is fine

stoic island
#

You should just look up testing data

#

for power draw

ancient wraith
#

Its says this now

muted patio
#

Just click cancel

stoic island
#

anyways

earnest olive
#

i mean

ancient wraith
#

What is scsi

earnest olive
#

750 is more than enough for your system

#

but if you really want 1000w

#

there are 1000w psus that cost less than $450

muted patio
earnest olive
#

and are still incredible

ancient wraith
#

Wow why is that there

muted patio
#

NO idea why that would come up

royal shore
#

it was because I went with platinum over gold I think

muted patio
#

UNless you installed motherboard RAID software perhaps

ancient wraith
#

No

earnest olive
stoic island
#

@royal shore any reason there's a 1tb ssd and a 2tb ssd?

muted patio
ancient wraith
#

I saw raid in bios but It was off

stoic island
#

lol

earnest olive
#

18.4 GB hard drive

#

$150

#

comes with a 5 year warranty

#

solid

royal shore
#

also with it being the HXi with the whole iCUE software that added too

earnest olive
#

...what

#

icue is for rgb

stoic island
earnest olive
#

also the worst rgb software

#

ahh much better

#

$700 for the 3080 though... that's a pipe dream

muted patio
#

on the HXi

still yoke
#

suppose i didn't put thermal paste

earnest olive
#

is that really necessary

still yoke
#

on the cpu

#

what would happen

stoic island
#

hawt

earnest olive
#

i've never felt the need to control my psu fan

muted patio
earnest olive
#

@still yoke depends on how flat the IHS and cooler are

still yoke
stoic island
#

depends

#

usually a bit hot

still yoke
#

and suppose i put too much?

ancient wraith
#

I looked scsiv lol wtf

earnest olive
#

i've had an 8 core cpu running at 18C with no thermal paste