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It's m.2 form factor
yea
any good nvme drives?
and whats the difference between sata and nnvme
these are the only screwdrivers im using rn
and a bigger craftsman one :/
Umm mp33, sn550
Are a couple budget ones
Sn750 and pilot e are a couple better ones
Mp34 is a great one too
the sn550 is same price as the original samsung woah
how is it better tho? (in which ways)
speed?
Well I'm pretty sure sn550 is an nvme drive
And yea it's be faster
this wouldn't work, right vintageracer? (not sure if I am able to ping mods here)
okay
Yeah, you can ping us, just do it responsibly
alright, thanks
ok any better options for ram tho? that was the first i found so i saved it lol
Ye
Ye
Just remember if you plan to upgrade to a k chip someday that board won't let you overclock
and every thing would fit into a 400a case?
oh ye
Uhh yeha
ok any board that does allow over clock tho?
Z490 or z590
i just took the first option 😔 sry for all the questions lol
Ye
Over hear it's like 170-180 usd for a z490
true i should prob stick with this then
Yup
BA
thats so much cheaper
and then one last question
how good do you think the igpu is gonna be in 11400
like can i use it for a while
until gpu becomes available
I mean if you want a better igpu go 11500
11400 uses uhd 630, while 11500 uses uhd 750
750 is the new one
yea but it's unavailable here rn
Yeah so I'd go 11400
but i can drive like 30km to get one lol
Honestly you prolly won't need that uhd 750 if you gonna get a gpu at some point
u think the 630 can last like 1 year max
Yeah
till some sort of gpu becomes available
and if i do decide to get 11500, will the board fit with it?
I mean it's not gonna play aaa games on good settings but it is a igpu
Yeah 11500 will fit
yea i don't really play aaa titles
some light gaming max
I mean like csgo and stuff it'll handle easy
kk
thanks for the help gonna order all this tmrw morning
most of them are prime shipping so they should arrive soon
very exciting!
Epic
u working on anything?
Suck for.....?
Yeah
And what kind of RGB. IIRC, the F doesn't do aRGB or only has one port while the E has it or has more. SOMething like that
Oh yeah vintage, which part of the screw driver would I use to put on the 2 pins and is that how I do it lol
5900x
The tip
so I touch both of the pins at the same time with this part?
I feel like I have no ability to pick boards for this chip
That one would be fine
Okay and the other mod said for about 15 seconds so i’ll do that
also does clearing cmos do anything to windows

No
so no vrms the heat of the sun or anything?
nah, it'll be fine
Okay phew
has flashback and meets my other criteria so...
Go for it, it's fine
ryzen really likes fast memory right?
yeah, you want 3600 or faster
So i...get the tip of the screwdriver and touch the 2 pins below the little circle battery thingy (at least that’s where it is on the b550-a pro) for 15 seconds while the power plug is unplugged and pc is off then after the 15 seconds are over I connect everything again and turn it back on?
Yep
okay
Probs have to go back in BIOS and reset RAM speed etc
that’s fine
just started absolutely raging earlier since today it was supposed to be done and I would be able to use my pc today
jesus the super fast ram is hella expensive. I'm supposedly having some crucial 3600 I won coming but something seemed... off about the contest email
16 GB should be ~100
yeah, dunno if I should go ahead and buy 32 or wait and see if the 16 is actually coming and match it. I have no timeline on the 16
also it doesn’t matter how far after it did all this that I clear cmos, right? It’ll work at any time i try it?
nah, time doesn't matter
Eh, just try it
No, just try it lol
Okay lol
Well, I just ordered the rest of my parts off Amazon. I added the CPU cooler I've been seeing recommended, decided I didn't want to fuss with swapping it out down the line. Just do it now, won't have to touch it again. List is mostly right, but I backed the Ballistix RAM down to the black non-RGB version. Decided the case and case fans were enough RGB.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXJmZZ
Man, I am equal parts excited and nervous about doing this. After over a year (closer to two, really - I started researching in 2019), I will finally be building my own new PC.
Once it's all up and running it'll be the greatest thing
Pretty nice
Phew...okay so clearing cmos worked! I am so so so so so so so so so relieved
Clear cmos is bae
Now, I just have to wait for Wednesday. That's when the last package is slated to show up. Monday is CPU and NVME; Tuesday is looking to be the RAM; mobo, hard drive, PSU, and CPU cooler Wednesday.
i look motherboard overclocking performance which is good name motherboard ?
For what cpu
core
Core what lol
core 9
yup
9900
MSI PRO Z490-A PRO LGA 1200 Intel Z490 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
is overclock ?
Cant overclock unless a k at the end of the cpu name
Intel Core i7-10700KF Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz LGA 1200 125W BX8070110700KF Desktop Processor
?
That can use Z490. The 9900 cannot
i think 9900k
If it's not K, you can't overclock
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whats a good psu for a 3700x and a 3070
What’s a good apu
Enermax revolution 850w is $120
ok
Revolution df* btw
250$
yeah 3400g is good
But only if it's near/below msrp, best buy has for 150 i believe but use pcparpicker to get best option
Yup
my friend has the same pc and softwares/apps I have, however he BSOD 3-10 times a day, he just BSOD and this is what the critical error says, any fix?
at time of BSOD: The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
2 minutes After BSOD:A problem has occurred with one or more user-mode drivers and the hosting process has been terminated. This may temporarily interrupt your ability to access the devices.
3 minutes after BSOD:The device HID-compliant headset (location (unknown)) is offline due to a user-mode driver crash. Windows will attempt to restart the device 4 more times. Please contact the device manufacturer for more information about this problem.
What would y'all say the most affordable 2.4ghz pcie wifi card is?
Look at pc part picker, any one will do 2.4ghz although tp link is good
Try get them to update Windows/drivers sounds like a driver issue tho
"4k 120 hz"
Yea lel
is the stock cooler from i5-11500 enough?
Stock cooler is meh, it will run, just won't boost much. If you have any extra budget, se-224-xt for 30$ will do great.
k
thanks
it's not available in canada so i choose the Gammaxx 400, that should be fine too right
Yeye gammaxx 400 nice
only problem is that it doesn't look too good :(
ye id cooling se 224xt and vetroo v5 better looks than gammaxx but they perform same so
Yeah
Vetroo aint really worth more than like 35$ mb 40 btw
I mean, for an air cooler it's rather impressive
No, you'd be better off with a 5600x and id cooling se 224xt
Gross
k
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-5600x/p/N82E16819113666?Description=ryzen+7+5600x https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0013-00079?Description=ID-COOLING SE-224-XT&cm_re=ID-COOLING_SE-224-XT-_-9SIAN1KCBK3056-_-Product&quicklink=true what about those two
or the non rgb fan it's like $10 less
is that good?
no response 
5600x is supposed to be 300
could you send me a better one?
you gotta look at shuffle /amd.com
ok
i believe
MSRP 299
^
Anything more is a scalping third party seller
they restock on thursdays i believe
i think its thursday anyway
wat
might be tuesday, im sure google will know
is g lol
the ryzen 5 is 280 at microcenter if you have one near you
the closest is like 5 hours away iirc
how is this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V9gFLP
SHould be fine but I'd recommend a better cooler than stock Intel
Gammax 400, ID Cooling SSE 224, etc
or the v5
Yeah vetroo v5 was another decent alternative
it has rgb as well and 5 heat pipes
Ballistix is cheaper if you haven't bought the ram as well btw
Bruh you don’t need an 850w psu
A 650w is the recommended by nvidia
Enermax revolution bae, allows for upgradability and it's the same price as the 750w revolution
And also why intel
Specs
Intel best for budget atm
im pretty sure its not even a PC
I got i5
Probably sucks
yes
Yeah probably a 3470
Should I wait for after covid to buy a PC
If it's a prebuilt they're fairly decent stock wise
Doesn't ring a bell but idk mb tag them
@willow sigil sir
Or she
Could I see the inside of your optiplex 7020 sff?
I want to add that smh
He got like a RGB fan in it
Don’t just add an RGB fan
That’s stupid
Actually upgrade the parts
Ik
I want to see if he has anything else in it
bc the gpu I was gonna put in didnt fit
Would anyone know the specs for a PC that I’d need to run X plane 11 exclusively for under 1500 just for the PC itself? I’m trying to help a friend build one and I have never used simulators before. Thanks!
never heard of that game but he might be better off getting a prebuilt for 1500 with a 3060 at that price as its a pain to get a gpu atm
Tht thang just hard to find 🤦🏽♂️
X-Plane apparently recommends at least a GTX 1070
For somebody to spend tht much on 1070 you can literally book a session irl.
980ti > 1650s
Considering used 1070 cards are going for over $400-500 on ebay today...
Rip off bruh
Of course it is, but that's how the market is right now. You can't find anything better for less unless you get SUPER lucky and are really patient.
I could sell my 2070 for double what I bought it for
I don’t doubt u on tht one.
Somebody on here hooked me up w Some decent specs and I can’t find the only thing tht will make it work tht 3080
You'll have better luck getting a 3060 r sum tbh
True at this point I just want to get gaming so a 3060 or a 2060 works
Tbh anything good I can get my hands on
Gpu market 🗑
Yup
what motherboard should i get
well i dont have one yet but im set on the ryzen 5 5600x
b550
Any one that has bios flashback
^^^
idk what that is lol
Do you want any specific features? WiFi? Integrated io shield?
well wifi would be nice
Yes you need to flash the bios when you get the motherboard, that's why we said you need a board with flashback
does that have one
Yes that's why i sent it
the computer wont work
yeah i had to update my bios to use my 5600x
it let me get into bios tho
so that was helpful
Pretty much all of them for ryzen 5000 need a bios update
how easy is it to do that
With flashback? Super easy
^
what do u have to do?
Put bios file on a flash drive, rename (if needed), plug in power, push flash button
im supposing you need another computer to download the bios file
Watch a tutorial on YouTube if you want a visual step by step but yeah what fal said
and put it on a flash drive
Yeah tbh a laptop or even your phone if you had a usb c/usb a flash drive
k
You could even do it with an Android phone if you have the USB host adapter
That's the part you were missing there Patokav
i have an iphone 8
yes
That'll do then
Np*
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That's the technical name, USB host adapter
I just meant if you have a usb that usb c and usb a
Ahh
@potent portal i meant one like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07YYK13LF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_GTSCRQ4JKDN6X8B35X6K
Ah I see, smol one
Yup that's the one my gf has it's usb c one end and a on the other end
Pretty handy
is there a motherboard for the ryzen 5 5600x that doesn't require a bios flash
If you're lucky you get an updated one but not usually
anyone know a good power supply? (650W) kinda budget
the one i just ordered was said to be sold out after i ordered it 😑
Bruh
idk lol
oof
Segotep on amazon $72
:/
and also yk the GAMMAXX 400 right, it's also apparently "out of stock"
Order now and we'll notify you via e-mail when we have an estimated delivery date for this item.
it said in stock 😶
whats the difference between modular and non-modular?
and is this option good?
hb this?
For....
oh ok i was kinda thinking that too but idk if it's worth almost double the money
Up to you
ok
are there better deals for power supplies tho?
Idk about canada :/
Check thebpsu tier list pinned to this channel
wait also, whats the difference between modular and non-modular?
Try and stickbwith b or higher
ok
oh is there enough of a difference that i should get one over the other?
Just pick one in tier b or higher since i dont know the market. Gold and blue colored are best
Yes
YW
Thx
i like the white rgb keyboards
Same
idk if i should go for a white or black pc theme
I have all the parts ready montero is being delivered still no gpy though
i might go for a darker pc
Monitor*
and a white keyboard
mega oof
And still no gpu
what gpu you looking for?
good luck
But I prefer 3060 ti
i'll let you know if i find any for a good price
Thx
im looking for a 3060
i've had 2 chances to get one for $390 but my dad wants me to make a list of the parts i'll get first
I found one on ebay for 50 more but it was a auction and it increased to almost 3 times more

oof
I had a chance on store but I dint know they would be out instantly
i wish you the best of luck tho
Thx u too
Hey all, I'm having mic trouble with my new build. Is anyone an expert?
Describe this "mic trouble", different problems need different experts
Alright, the motherboard is Rog Strix z590-e
The headset is pretty basic with analog connections
The driver seems to be "USB 2.0 audio interface, Realtek"
The sound comes through fine, but the mic is extremely quiet. I end tasked the motherboards default noise cancelling feature and the people can hear me slightly better, but my voice is mostly faint and all the mic settings are on max
Anyone have an arduino idea?
I thought it was strange it was using a usb audio driver for analog. My old PC used a basic "Realtek HD audio" driver, which worked fine
I'm assuming you've installed this driver from the board support page? https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1200/ROG_STRIX_Z590-I_GAMING_WIFI/Realtek_Audio_Driver_V6.3.9600.2276_WIN10_64-bit.zip
I haven't installed any drivers, other than windows 10/updates
Does the board require manual driver installations?
Oh, well definitely install that driver
Okay I'll look now
Yes motherboard drivers need to be manually installed
You've probably got a few ⚠️ in your device manager
Just for "pci device", like 6 of them
I'm looking for the support page, that link didn't work for some reason
Alright working on the audio, let's see
running "asus setup"
brb
I think I'm getting somewhere, thanks!
Grab the Chipset, LAN, and Audio drivers from the support page while you're there, that can only benefit you
yo i have a 3600 and temps arent really a concern but i just got noctua fans and now the sound of the stock cooler fan is very noticable
what should i get to replace it
se 224 xt or gammaxx 400 or vetroo v5
Hey I got the chipset/intel graphics driver but on install it said "computer does not meet minimum requirements for this driver". Is there a way to fix that?
What you need help with?
Ram is in the wrong slots too
^
You want the ram in slot furthest away from cpu then empty slot then ram
An*
That doesn't mean anything
Oh
Z490
What cpu?
I9 11900
Needs a bios update
But it says it’s the cpu
Yeah, I just built one of those. Ram needs to be furthest from CPU, skip a slot, then ram, then empty slot
^
1 why 11900
but yeah if it's on a z490 you need to update the bios
^ you won't get dual channel ram with them side by side unless you have 4 sticks of ram
Bruh the hole thing does turn on
I don't think that board has BIOS flashback either
Not with a CPU light dood
It's not POSTing
No just the fans are getting power
I used 4 monitors
Hang on, can't update BIOS without flashback
I don't think that board has it but checking
Sorry it’s my first pc
It's okay
But while vintage is checking if it has bios flashback, fix your ram slots
Put your ram like this
Well, bad news
No flashback :/
You either need a 10th gen CPU or a new motherboard
Time to return motherboard
Why
Or a Z490 with Flashback
Reason: Bad word usage
Because the BIOS that controls the CPU isn't compatible with 11th gen
It needs updating
You cant update the bios without a 10th gen cpu
Wow
ONly way to do it is with a 10th gen or a new MOtherboard with Flashback or Z590
What am I gonna do know
And I was saving money to get a graphics card
Get a z590 motherboard
Z590 isn't much over a z490 tbh
Nicki do you live in the US?
You need a white board yeah?
Hmmmm
What country? I'll find you a cheapish z590
Intel motherboards with flashback are rare as hens teeth
Well actually, is it a 11900k or just 11900?
So Z590 it is
11900
Careful with the B560
But intel said it will support z490
and the VRM for 11900
It will with a proper BIOS
Yours doesn't have it
Nicki what country in eu? So i can send you a link for your country
Forgot how much power it drew :/
Greece
You're probably better off buying from Germany then is that okay? Pc parts in greece are way more expensive for some reason
At least it will work this time tho
Well I was saving money to get a 3080 too
That’s sad
And I can’t find a card anywhere
Or knows where to get one?
No buying and selling here. Also, they're all out of stock and very hard to get
Try german sites like caseking i believe
But you gotta be patient
Buying stuff from uk is pointless now anyway for ppl in eu because of brexit we gotta pay import duty and our governments tax on top of product+shipping+import duty which would end up being like 2x the cards price
Well you gotta
Looking for the cheapest gpu that can match this. Is currently set up for integrated graphics
This is the monitor that will be used with it
I was thinking of getting a 710
Onboard GPU better than that
Ahh ok
Can't go any cheaper? Not even for AMD?
wat
Why would you not just use igpu if you're using pentium
All GPu's are really overpriced RN
^
anyone have recommendations for a program that allows me to set my case fan curves off of GPU temp?
You can only control your case fans in the bios and usually just off of cpu temps or a few temp sensors on the board
Not just BIOS
ASUS has AI Suite
Works well, other mobo manufacturers have software too
Ohh my b
I'd assume it's motherboard specific tho right?
AI Suite only works with ASUS
Gotta use your mobo specific software
i thought so. speedfan unfortunately doesnt support my mobo
i noticed lol
what's some good thermal compound i should get when i build a pc
i saw the copyright ended in 2016
You can use MSI AFterburner for GPU fans
Therm Grizzly Kryonaut
Mx4 by arctic
so thats why this is so hard to find. I have no issue with controlling my GPU fans. i would like to control my case fans based off of GPU temp.
IDK how to do that TBH
Just have an agressive curve based on your mobo temps mb
i have considered this
ok
If not just get mx4 for like 4$
ok
argus monitor
it's paid software but it is the only solution i'm aware of
and i was pulling my hair out trying to figure out the same thing a while back
You're a legend
enjoy 🙂
they have a free trial but i think it will suit your needs
can control everything based off of a frankly insane number of temp sources
ever wanted to control your water pump based on your hard drive's temperature? argus monitor lets you do that
they have gpu as a temp source as well as gpu average over 10 sec which is nice for minimizing noise from temp spikes
controlling my case fans off cpu was not cutting it when my cpu was 32C in gaming and my gpu was hitting 75C without the airflow from case fans
Anyone knows a z590 motherboard that is around €200 ?
For where in Europe?
Well, anywhere that amazon.de covers, This @little osprey
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B08VH8JZRD
So it's like a recent version of speedfan. Nice!
yeah pretty much
i thought speedfan was the answer at first
until i realized i was reading threads from 2013 and speedfan had no idea what my b550 mobo was lol
What motherboard should I get ?
How do I compare them?
What is the website name so I can compare them?
tbh if you can't tell the difference between motherboards you're better off with a cheaper one
unlikely to use the features of a higher end motherboard if you don't know what you're looking for
this board is much cheaper, still has pcie 4.0 if you have an 11th gen cpu, and decent for overclocking
I need an z590
Why?
What more do you need?
but why?
whats the point?
wasting money for absolutely no reason?
Also, I thought around 200$ was upper limit of budget lmao
Not anything in the 200s
Some people just don't care about wasting money 
Because they have a 11900 and have a z490 rn with no flashback, might be a lot easier for them to not have to deal with flashback
yeah but z490 boards have flashback too
Ik it's not that hard but they need a new board anyway
why not one of those
Yeah but they don't seem like they want to or something, if you look up they seem a bit less techy it's their first build
That's fair
hamster 2, that command is disabled in this channel.
so why are they insisting on z590 even tho snail or whatever hes called nowadays told them that theres no added benefit unless you need a very niche and specific feature
right here
Though going from a full featured board to another full featured board is less justified imo 
Do they don't have to do the bios update themselves
I have a bare bones H81 from Lenovo and I want a Gigabyte H97M for some features
I mean you have to update multiple times even on the latest chipset to get newer features
how does one more time matter?
The features wasnt the problem, they just needed a 11th gen bios update
yeah but how does one more bios update matter
especially with flashback
literally easier than installing windows
With z590 you dont gotta do any bios update
That's just not true lol
to get the computer up and running
That's all they need
to get the latest features as they roll out you need to update again and again
They don't need those features tho
Whats tough about dragging and dropping contents of a zip file and selecting that file in the bios
Nothing but windows is really easy to install
so then again. whats the pint of the 11th gen if you dont want the latest features
Regular users might be scared about bios
waste of money tbh
They bought an 11900 i don't think they know that much in relation to pcs especially cuz they were just like but i want a gpu now where do i get
have you ever done a UEFI update? it's stupid easy to do...
Yeah but they didn't seem very tech savy
in windows its basically 2 clicks
that's why we are here
^^^
someone here is gonna have to walk them though installing windows
what's a few more steps
True but still
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wouldn't be surprised if the z490 board just boots up fine with the 11900 in it
it's unlikely, but possible at this point in time
It didn't
so he already has a board?
They already had the z490 board with 11900 assembled
Yeah but no flashback on the board
how long ago did they purchase it
Ya they want to refund it
They gonna return it
how long ago did they purchase it
I mean literally the steps are
- format pendrive to fat 32 in the rightclick>format menu
2)(link to bios file) download and open. drag and drop everything in the folder to the pendrive.
3)restart pc and spam F2
4)(directions to bios flash utility in the board manufacturer bios)
5)select pendrive and the only file it detects in the drive
6)select all positive responses
also this is a non k cpu, right? it doesn't even need to be z590
VERY true
Not sure but they said they were gonna return
I said b560 would be fine but vintage said not really because of the vrms that you'd wanna be careful
A higher end b560>lower end z590 when it comes to power delivery tbh
ayyymd boi?
nah, college has been keeping me out of the loop
very low end z590 but still
F
11th gen launched and I haven't done enough research :(
I know most of the chips aren't worth buying tho :P
i5s only good ones
i7 waste of sand
thas what i said tho
Specifying chips
100% 11900 💩 but didn't want to point that out too as they already had and seemed annoyed enough
I would return it and get a ryzen 9 lol
easy core increase by half
Didn't wanna point out that the did a bad choice
They also had the ram in 2 sticks side by side by cpu
So they where not very savy
I mean they already made 2 bad choices
change taht to 3
3 bad choices
i mean returns arent really tough in a time period either
Reason: Duplicated text
how is it duplicated text 🤔
when it's 4 different links
anyhow, what do y'all think about these 4 monitors, which is best?
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This one prob, higher refresh.
Looks decent anyways
yea
So if i have a ryzen 5 2600x, 1660ti and 16gb ram should i be able to stream and play apex at the same time?
So is the 3080 ti really gonna be faster than the 3090?
No
you'll be fine just use nvenc encoder
whats stopping me from being able to?
nothing
what is nvenc encoder?
built in video encoding hardware on GPU
you will see it in your OBS/streaming software settings
oh ok, do i just have to enable it?
I don't know for software other than OBS but for OBS you can just choose encoder in stream settings
there will be a dropdown with like h.264 and nvenc
oh ok, thank you for your help
no problem, happy gaming
How would it be

it some times happens doe
I have a friend wanting to build a pc for $2000ish he already has a case, but needs a monitor headphones and a webcam.
Does he have the components for inside the pc?
no
Ok tell him to just get 3070 first
Not too worth buying other components until he has 3060ti/3070 (upper priced 3070 might not fit budget with monitor included)
yeah
I just bought a computer off new egg and I’m so excitedddd
what'd you buy?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q9LGYg made this list some time ago...
iBUYPOWER Slate 4 163A - AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - Radeon RX 580 - 16 GB DDR4 - 1 TB HDD - 240 GB SATA SSD - Windows 10 Home - Gaming Desktop its my first one Lel
How much u pay
1.1k
Huh
Ouch
4gb rx580? or 8gb
Pls tell me 8gb 🙏
if it's 8gb that's pretty close to how much it would cost to custom build
It's an 8gb i looked it up
Rip
Rip those dell ones are like 10400 and 1660ti for 850
And a motherboard
It's a motherboard
It also has a power supply
It powers supplies
gaming,programming and some editing
@pine storm any GPU..?
rtx 2070
hm
hmm
lots of things on the list just bothers me
I'll just make an example of what I'd do
@pine storm This is what I'd do
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jMJRxc
Z490-a pro has surprisingly decent VRMs, no worries there
freezer ii outperforms x73
ballistix ram is nice, and I feel like you may have an use for more ram, saved money on other parts anyways
Pilot-E performs the same as 970 evo plus for most people for a lot cheaper, it's e12 with micron nand, pretty nice
Seagate vs Toshiba is just a personal thing, cmr over smr isn't that important for consumers, so you can swap it back if you really want.
P500a is just a better case than o11 imo, better airflow, still has 360mm top mount, more space, and less overused
(and comes with 3 fans without needing to spend more)
Revo d.f. 850w is just a better multi-rail CWT unit, I prefer multi-rail over single-rail for better ocp for >750w units
And Revo d.f. is on a great platform, the brand that's on it doesn't matter that much, it's based off CWT GPU, the same platform Corsair RMx is based off of.
wow thank you for your help bro
The only thing is if there were any special features you wanted from z490-e, or any specific reason you picked it
no not really, I was going for a z490-f but couldn't find it
fair
kool
we love seeing rookies actually grateful for advice
feel like i've seen so many people start fighting over advice lately
yea

haha that's just plain stupd, why ask for advise if you're not gonna like what they advise you
HoW dArE yOu SaY $250 rYzEn 5 3600 AnD b450 tOmAhAwK iN 2021 bAd 
eh, some people post lists to feel good, and feel personally attacked
well you wouldnt think it, but ppl do it a suprising amount here lol
that kinda thing
since when was it not a thing, never saw anyone being ungrateful lol
but a good portion of people are nice
legit someone had a like d tier psu then got mad when i suggested a better one
"I want your opinions on this list but only if it's praise for how perfect it is"
since they felt like i was making them spend more money
you aren't in here often if you haven't seen people fighting over sensible advice lol
oh sorry for that
Confirmation vs actual advice
y'all some nice people
not smthing to be sry about
some people get really offended if you change something on their list... after they asked if the list is good
stay around here for a week and youll see one prolly
oh yea lol
exactly, they say they want advice then say they liked their list better before
@stoic island thanks again for your help and your time
I'd give it til Tuesday
:)
its like big bruh moment
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKPYK3 rate my list 
is the cooler really needed?
It's so
0/10 ToMaHaWk iSnT gOOd eNoUgh iN 2021
it's so accurate lmao
FiRsT oF aLl HoW dArE yOu
lol ye
i'm suing you for emotional damages
I swear I've seen that exact list like 5 times
lmao this is funny
this happens alot too
anyways
this list is like the average one we see here
nice to have nice people from time to time
like you 🙂
lol ye
can we talk about this btw
:)
thats literally more expensive than i5-11400 in canadian dollars
because x youtuber said 3600 good
hmm that sucks go a320 to save money on that list
xD
i used to think that ryzen good bc all the videos i watched said so
but then i met u guys lol
it is good
i5 11th gen so much better tho
just some are
well yea
good products, bad prices
especially in productivity ryzen wins
but the 3600
yeah 3600 has gone up alot
yeah after seeing the i5-11400 perf and cost
so overpriced
i bought mine at 165
woah
i bought my 3600x for $143... miss those days
intel might end up bein next rig years from now

i just got my i5-11500 for 269 cad
magic
lucky lol
my latest pog deal was an i7-4790 xeon, 16gb ddr3-1600, and a z87 mobo for $47
all for 47?
yeah
slap in an rx 580 8gb and put it in an rgb case

