building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

christ

[fossil cedar]

what?????????

oml

you got royally scammed

[muted patio]

That's way too much for that GPU

[earnest olive]

$325 on the used market gets you a GTX 1060 6GB with 4 times the performance of an RX 550

[muted patio]

Can you return any of those parts or no?

[rain tendon]

no for the Intel Core i7-10700K Comet Lake 8-Core 3.8 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor w/ Intel UHD Graphics 630

[fossil cedar]

🤞 at least the rx 550

[earnest olive]

but if you are so stubborn about not buying used parts that you would prefer to lose 75% of your performance then just buy an i5-11500 with no graphics card

[fossil cedar]

can you at least return the graphics card

[muted patio]

and the power supply

[earnest olive]

please do not buy a 10700K lol

[fossil cedar]

thats still too much for the processor

[earnest olive]

if you really want to go RX 550 then 10700K won't even wake up next to it

[fossil cedar]

an i5 11400 or 11500 and a b560 way better

[earnest olive]

i3-10100 would be bottlenecked by rx 550

[fossil cedar]

yeah

[rain tendon]

Can return the graphics card, it is still on the way

[earnest olive]

return it and buy used

[cold sorrel]

Not sure how much room I have to talk, considering I just bought a 5600x... but darn it at least I paid MSRP.

[rain tendon]

Sorry just not comfortable with used

[potent portal]

10700k is NOT a budget friendly choice

[fossil cedar]

^

[earnest olive]

if you don't buy used you will lose >75% of your performance

[violet harness]

9700k is decent

[muted patio]

wat

[earnest olive]

in this market you just have to buy used for a budget build

[fossil cedar]

They'd be way better with an 11400

[potent portal]

You can buy a GT 1030 from best buy right now for $130 if you really insist

[fossil cedar]

Why would they buy a 2 gen old cpu row.?

[earnest olive]

zero reason to buy a $200 9700K over a $120 10400F

[muted patio]

For $300? Ain't no way no how just no

[potent portal]

That has the same or better performance as the RX 550

[violet harness]

I’ve seen it for like 200$ on sale

[earnest olive]

9700K is still not worth 200

[fossil cedar]

Get a i5 11400 for that price

[muted patio]

Not worth it at all

[earnest olive]

more expensive than the 11400 still

9700K is worth maximum $80 now with the 10400F being $120 lol

[fossil cedar]

You'd save on the 11400 and it would perform better lol

[muted patio]

Ya

9000 series intel shouldn't even be considered at this point

No hyperthreading and no upgrade path

[fossil cedar]

10400f is such good value like 10$ more than a 10100

[fossil cedar]

Yeah only 9900k iirc has it

[earnest olive]

that's not true

[rain tendon]

ok, like now I have a headache

[earnest olive]

9900K is not the only 9th gen intel cpu with HT

[fossil cedar]

Ohh really?

[earnest olive]

pentium gold has ht

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yea the best cpu

[cold sorrel]

Okay, we're confusing the newbie. Maybe simplify the convo a bit?

[fossil cedar]

Probs a good idea

[muted patio]

Tried to

They need to return GPU and PSU, give us a budget for the rest and let us build a list

[earnest olive]

they're resisting sensible advice

[rain tendon]

The computer is for son, so I guess he'll have to get in touch with his friend of only 2 Me and friend lol

[earnest olive]

so it's kinda hard to help

[cold sorrel]

I still consider myself a bit of a noob, but I've tried to research everything. I just keep wandering back to ask questions.

[rain tendon]

this is the price for the build which we were getting
$1,056.35

[fossil cedar]

Sure thats how ya learn dw

[earnest olive]

$1056.35 for a build that will barely run league of legends

oof.

is the rx 550 even enough for fortnite?

[muted patio]

Can you answer our questions as to what parts you're able to return?

[fossil cedar]

Anyone here can get you a pc build wayy wayyyy better than that for that budget

[muted patio]

SO we can get you better parts for the same budget?

[fossil cedar]

480p maybe

[potent portal]

On lowest settings yes

[earnest olive]

i just checked

rx 550 gets drops to 50 fps in fortnite at 720p performance mode

that's... not playable for a competitive game

especially for $1056 lol

[muted patio]

Yikes

[rain tendon]

All the parts that I have already ordered and on the way with the exception of case are returnable

[muted patio]

Fantastic, now we have somewhere to start.

[potent portal]

The case is good anyway

[rain tendon]

Case is to but don't feel the ned to replace it.

[valid basalt]

heh, I hope the case is fine seeing as I have the same one -_-;;

[earnest olive]

the case is not terrible

the biggest thing i don't like about the case is no psu shroud

but it has decent airflow

[fossil cedar]

It's a decent case

[earnest olive]

return literally everything else

yeah i've done a build in the focus G

it was ok

[cold sorrel]

Case was not the problem in your list Rebecca.

[rain tendon]

ok

[fossil cedar]

The case is g dont worry

[earnest olive]

customer wanted a red case and focus G was the only one i could find

[cold sorrel]

I mean, I picked a case that isn't super optimal for airflow either. But it looked cool.

[earnest olive]

it's not bad

[rain tendon]

that's the one I have just in Black

[valid basalt]

I bought the thing back in october and only now am going to unbox it

[earnest olive]

but the lack of psu shroud hurts

though if you don't care about looks it doesn't matter

@rain tendon the case is fine everything else should be returned

[lyric thistle]

Red is a good matching kitchen appliance color

[earnest olive]

if you get over your fear of buying ONE used part you can have a computer that performs 3-4 times better for the same price

[cold sorrel]

I have:
http://www.phanteks.com/Eclipse-P360X.html

[lyric thistle]

Fridge, microwave, range, dish washer

Nobody does colorful appliances anymore tho

[earnest olive]

i am also wary of used parts but graphics cards i am willing to buy used

it is really hard to mess up a graphics card

they are too locked down to allow you to damage them without physically damaging the hardware

[fossil cedar]

Good case to my knowledge

[earnest olive]

and nobody is reaching inside their case to punch their graphics card

[rain tendon]

I have major trust issues and too old to conquer them at this point lol

[earnest olive]

then with all due respect allow someone else to build the computer

[valid basalt]

samsung

[earnest olive]

the current market simply does not allow for new graphics cards on a budget

i had to temporarily close my pc building business due to lack of new graphics cards

i am speaking from experience

[valid basalt]

ouch

[cold sorrel]

At least the Eclipse has air vents on the front and isn't solid glass/plastic/metal.

[valid basalt]

it only comes with 2 case fans though, you might need to pick up a few more

[earnest olive]

2 case fans is enough for their 3060

[cold sorrel]

I have a whole five-pack of RGB fans I plan to put in that I bought last year with the case.

[valid basalt]

? I'd think you'd want the two front ones and at least one exhaust

[earnest olive]

i did a 5600xt build with 0 case fans

worked fine lol

gpu never got above 60C in synthetic workloads

3060 isn't that hot of a gpu

5600xt is around the same tdp

and i overclocked it too

[cold sorrel]

5600x might run a bit hot, but I'll swap out the cooler later down the line. Want to get the main part of the build done now before my laptop decides to quit on me altogether.

[earnest olive]

of course it's recommended to have 1-2 case fans but it's not like they are necessary

[winged lion]

I need a good board sub 180 dollars for an 11400, is the ASRock H470 STEEL LEGEND good?

[earnest olive]

no

b560

[winged lion]

Ok

[rain tendon]

ok, well I have things to do and consider, but this is going to happen with new parts and if I have to spend a little more then I might. Thank you for everything everyone for the advice all will be taken into consideration!

[earnest olive]

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08W726FGL

[winged lion]

I’m tryna find a good b560 board

[earnest olive]

$109.99 b560 board

buy buy buy

quickly

before out of stock again

[winged lion]

Ok

[earnest olive]

good luck soldier

[cold sorrel]

5600x is already outta stock again on Newegg. Glad I jumped when I noticed it was in-stock earlier.

[valid basalt]

I got lucky on the 5900x

[earnest olive]

i wish i wasn't on the AM4 platform already when i was considering cpu upgrade

would have rather gone intel than paying $300 for 5600x

[cold sorrel]

5600x is a bit overkill, but 5900x would have been dumb for my use case.

[earnest olive]

can't believe people are willing to pay above msrp for the 5600x

i was barely willing to pay msrp

[valid basalt]

you don't want to waste 8 cores while playing fortnite?

[earnest olive]

how does anyone justify $400 for a 5600x

i found it for msrp on ebay lol

[winged lion]

Lol how

[lyric thistle]

5100 when

[earnest olive]

it was a retailer's ebay store

antonline

[valid basalt]

I can't pretend I'm going to fully utilize it, but I know this i7-9700 was driving me crazy during some workloads

[winged lion]

I live near microcenter so we have 5600x for msrp 😎

[winged lion]

Oh

[earnest olive]

really? 5600x is $370 at the nearest microcenter to me

[cold sorrel]

I got my 5600x at MSRP on Newegg today.

[earnest olive]

who knows why

amd fanboys are crazy

$370 + tax for a 5600x lol

[winged lion]

People who recommend the 3600 🥶

[winged lion]

Lol rip

[earnest olive]

dude how are people still buying the 3600 for $230

lmaooo

[winged lion]

Every budget build on yt recommends it 💀

[earnest olive]

loses to a $120 10400F

💀

[fossil cedar]

when it came out it was good but not anymore with 10400f being so cheap

[winged lion]

Oh

[earnest olive]

i bought my 3600x for $143

miss those days

[winged lion]

That’s nice

[earnest olive]

back when amd actually had budget options

[winged lion]

I never realized the 10400f was expensive

[earnest olive]

the 3600 was definitely the better budget buy at some point

when it was usually $160, the 10400 was still $200, and B560 didn't exist

[winged lion]

Also the 3600 is better for productivity

If I’m right

[earnest olive]

now the 10400F is $120, 3600 is $230, and b560 exists

well

[winged lion]

No b560 🥺

[earnest olive]

you can get an i7-10700K for the price of the 3600 now

so

10700K crushes 3600 in productivity lol

i9-10850K same price as 5600x

[winged lion]

No I was talking about vs the 10400f

The 10700k tho

[earnest olive]

well yeah but you're comparing two processors in drastically different price points

[winged lion]

True

[earnest olive]

10400F = $120
3600 = $230
10700K = $230

[winged lion]

This is actually cursed

To look at

[earnest olive]

the highest cinebench r20 score i managed to push in a 3600 was 4181 with insanely unsafe daily voltage

10700K got 5364 on a safe daily profile

daily score for a 3600 is more like 3700

and that was a golden sample 3600 too

https://hwbot.org/submission/4649014_sips_bleach_seductively_cinebench___r20_with_benchmate_ryzen_5_3600_4181_pts

[winged lion]

When you end up comparing a mid-high end chip with a low budget chip due to pricing 🥶🥶🥶

[earnest olive]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4710408_sips_bleach_seductively_cinebench___r20_core_i7_10700k_5364_marks

1.4V 3600

1.35V 10700K

3600 is safe up to 1.25V only

10700K safe up to 1.4V

3600 is even still $200 at microcenter

pain

[valid basalt]

hmm, I've been leaning Ryzen but that's a tough pill

[earnest olive]

oooh, microcenter has stock of the athlon 3000g

maybe i should grab one

[valid basalt]

I'm only going to be getting 2 more cores at an extra 200

[earnest olive]

they also have the 3200g though it's a bit expensive at $140

hol up

who exactly is buying a 3000G + 8gb 2666c19 single channel ram + a freaking gen 4 nvme samsung 980 pro

LOL

[fossil cedar]

The same people that put i7 10700ks on h410s?

[fleet pagoda]

How much should i price my pc at

3070 3700x gigabyte b450 aorus pro wifi 16gb ddr4 cl16 750w psu

[fossil cedar]

For what?

[fleet pagoda]

Wym for what

[fossil cedar]

What do you mean what should you price your pc at?

[fleet pagoda]

How much should i sell it for i listed my whole setup but a guy said he would just buy the pc

And i wanna see what i could get for it

[fossil cedar]

Why would you sell that

Great pc

[fleet pagoda]

Games suck

Not having the slightest bit of fun anymore

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[ripe wedge]

ive pushed my 10700k to 5.2 but thats as far as it goes and for stable 5.2ghz I have to do like 1.44v

[fossil cedar]

Why did you recently upgrade then?

[fleet pagoda]

Idk

[fossil cedar]

I would price it around 1800 or so maybe 2k just a guess

I'd price it out tho

What case, power supply, ram, cooler

[fossil cedar]

Nice

[fleet pagoda]

P400a 750w phanteks ripjaws and stock amd cooler

[desert gulch]

No no no not even close

I'd go highest is prolly 1500

[fleet pagoda]

I highballed then

[desert gulch]

I'd say 1500 would be highest you could reasonably do it for

[fleet pagoda]

Nothing stoping a counter offer tho

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

[fossil cedar]

but 3070

[desert gulch]

So?

3700x and 3070

[fossil cedar]

3070s are in very high demand

[desert gulch]

Isn't near 1800

Bruh you can build a 3080 rig for 1800

[fleet pagoda]

He said hed do 1700 cash

[fossil cedar]

if you can buy a 3080 tho, economics

[desert gulch]

Damn

[fossil cedar]

nice

[desert gulch]

I'd take 1700 and run

[earnest olive]

1700??? lol

the 3070 alone is 1300

you're smoking something ryan

easily 2k

[fossil cedar]

Exactly why i said 1800-2k

[earnest olive]

1500 highest for a 3070 build lol

2k EASY

[stoic island]

1.5k highest to BUILD IT, selling goes higher :p

[verbal quarry]

Really?

Where would you sell it?

[stoic island]

Ebay fb marketplace craigslist whatever you want

[verbal quarry]

Cool

I'm actually building a 3070 build xD

[stoic island]

But yea people will buy 3070 builds for 2000$+

[verbal quarry]

Wow

Also where does the vdg pin connector go on the b550-f?

[tribal fractal]

beans wtffff

[verbal quarry]

?

[potent portal]

Picture of the connector? That sounds like an RGB controller

[verbal quarry]

It did come with a rgb fan hub

[potent portal]

Would that happen to be a Sharkoon TG4 RGB or something similar?

[verbal quarry]

A similar I believe

It has this attached to it as well

[potent portal]

That one goes to the motherboard, an aRGB header which you have near the bottom middle, number 10

[verbal quarry]

So it goes in the 10?

[potent portal]

The one with the 3 pins with the gap in between, the last pic you posted

[verbal quarry]

Gotcha

[potent portal]

Goes into 10 yes, ADD_GEN2

[verbal quarry]

And what about the vdg?

[potent portal]

That should fit into the RGB controller

[verbal quarry]

Clrtc?

Or 11?

[potent portal]

Not on the motherboard, on the case RGB controller

[verbal quarry]

Um

How?

It's got at most half an inch of cord between the other connector

[harsh depot]

anything i should change? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/72LZ3Z

[verbal quarry]

I would go with a 750w

There's a phanteks Amp for 109 that is pretty nice and I believe is B teir

I have it and I haven't had any problems with it

[earnest olive]

650W is fine but corsair cx is not great

replace that ssd

lemme check

[harsh depot]

can’t fit that it’s 50 dollars more

[verbal quarry]

Ah dang

Do you need rgb?

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kz7CmG/evga-power-supply-210gq0650

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YKZzK8/pny-xlr8-cs3030-500-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-m280cs3030-500-rb

those will do fine

[verbal quarry]

I didnt know pny made ssds

[earnest olive]

they have decent budget-mid range options

nothing to write home about but currently happens to be the cheapest of my pre-approved budget ssd list lol

[verbal quarry]

Lol

[earnest olive]

3070 FE is a 1x8pin gpu

650W definitely enough

[verbal quarry]

I bought a 750 for future upgrades B)

[lament fulcrum]

3070 only needs 1 8pin?

[earnest olive]

FE only

most AIBs need 2x8

[lament fulcrum]

damn my 5700xt needs 1x8 and 1x6

the fe is still pretty powerful too

[earnest olive]

3070 FE has a 220W power limit

PCIe slot provides 75W and 8pin spec is 150W

[cold sorrel]

I've talked myself into just going with a 750w. It's only ten bucks more, and it means I have headroom if I need to replace anything down the line.

[earnest olive]

alright going on a date now pce

[verbal quarry]

Have fun 👋

Can anyone tell me where I can get a 5600x at msrp?

[lament fulcrum]

up ur tail

[verbal quarry]

I'm trying to get it asap

[verbal quarry]

I already looked its not there

[lament fulcrum]

just raid newegg's warehouse

[verbal quarry]

🤔

[lament fulcrum]

but i just looked at the i5-11400 bc their name

its actually better

and in stock

[verbal quarry]

Yea ik

[lament fulcrum]

$220

[verbal quarry]

But I have a amd mobo so

[lament fulcrum]

make 2 systems lol

[verbal quarry]

Sticking to what I originally planned

Actually I could probably sell the one I'm making for 2k

[lament fulcrum]

yeah prolly

[verbal quarry]

It's gonna have a 3070 in it so

[lament fulcrum]

why sell it? you got 3080+?

[olive kraken]

Crucial ballistix or Ripjavs for 5600x? Both @3600 cl16

[lament fulcrum]

idk look at reviews prolly, someone has probably done a comparison benchmark

both are decent memory models

[fossil cedar]

whichever is cheaper usually ballistix

[olive kraken]

Ballistix -10usd atm yah

[fossil cedar]

then ballistix

[little osprey]

is it bad if my keyboard is in the hot sun? im really curious because when i push down on the bar it makes cracking noises

[lament fulcrum]

prolly

[fossil cedar]

Dont think so lol

[olive kraken]

-1 for non lubed switches

[lament fulcrum]

plastic doesn't like sun, just ask the rail joints on the top of my car that'd ive replaced at least 3 to 4 times

[fossil cedar]

Oof

I've never heard of a problem like that lol

[lament fulcrum]

luckily i can get new rails at junkyard for 10$ a piece

[little osprey]

yeah keyboard plastic

[lament fulcrum]

they make the bar metal, but the joint that mounts to the roof, cheap korean hard plastic that hates sun

[little osprey]

everytime i put my hand on the bar makes cracking noises

[lament fulcrum]

currently one of the joints is completely off and i still have 2 kayaks on it lol

no harm though its the rear, and theirs a 3/4 bar support to help the rear

[little osprey]

is there a way to fix the cracking noises

in my keyboard?

[lament fulcrum]

get a new spacebar

[little osprey]

its the bar

makes cracking noises

[lament fulcrum]

???

the switch?

[little osprey]

where your wrist go on

[lament fulcrum]

oh

i mean check where it mounts

[little osprey]

the bar beneath space bar

[lament fulcrum]

no clue

i thought you meant one of those add on wrist supports that some keyboards come with

[verbal quarry]

I prefer crucial because of their more tuned performance

[little osprey]

oh lol

is it making cracking noises because of the sun

??

[lament fulcrum]

probably not

could just be cheap material rubbing together on the inside

[little osprey]

oh ok

[lament fulcrum]

i have a leopold keyboard, the plastic they use is not much

[little osprey]

does it make creaking noise on bar?

[lament fulcrum]

I dont have a bar

But no creaking noises

This thing barely flexes

[little osprey]

huh weird

[stoic island]

cracking noise?

[gusty pasture]

grease the switches

?

[stoic island]

wat

switches don't crack

at worst they're a bit scratchy

(unless you broke then)

[fossil cedar]

Probs some crunchy food underneath XD

[stoic island]

but they say bar below spacebar so

wack

maybe stabs?

[cold sorrel]

I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of debris has gotten under the space bar and that's what is making the noises.

[fossil cedar]

Probs whack stabs yeah

[timber crescent]

People who have used rgb ram does it light up system in any significant amount? Doing a white and black build wondering if having rgb ram will help light it up along with the rgb fans or would I be better off getting some led strip?

[gusty pasture]

led strip

[fossil cedar]

Don't have rgb ram but I'd say you're better witn just black ballsix or something and led strips

[timber crescent]

Ok good to know.

[fossil cedar]

@earnest olive what happened to your pc ? F

[earnest olive]

i am staying at gf's dorm

[fossil cedar]

Ahh

For 1.5 months would you not bring pc?

[earnest olive]

uhhh

i don't wanna lug over my huge tower lol

bringing over the monitor was already sus enough

[fossil cedar]

Fair lol

[earnest olive]

and my laptop is pretty decent

that's kinda what laptops are for

being brought around

[timber crescent]

Patoka the ballsix ram mean ballistix?

[fossil cedar]

True true

[earnest olive]

i have a td500 mesh that case is not known for being small

[fossil cedar]

Yeah

[earnest olive]

my pc is like 30 pounds at least

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[earnest olive]

it's mining at home though so at least it's not being wasted

[fossil cedar]

🤑

[earnest olive]

my laptop is mining too lol

my laptop is disturbingly good at mining

[fossil cedar]

Ohh you have a dgpu in your laptop

[earnest olive]

yes lol it is an rtx 3070 130w

[fossil cedar]

Ohh nice

[earnest olive]

beats my desktop 3070s at mining

[fossil cedar]

How

[earnest olive]

desktop 3070: 62.7 mh/s 115W
laptop 3070: 68 mh/s 118W

[fossil cedar]

68 mhs wtf

[earnest olive]

desktop 3070 vram can only do 8150 mhz while laptop 3070 vram can do 8815 mhz

[earnest olive]

vintage

[timber crescent]

Why are the crucial ballistix almost $20 cheaper than g.skill trident z of same speed and latency? Still good ram or should I spend the extra for the g.skill for.

[muted patio]

I've been reading

and watching

[earnest olive]

my laptop spiked to 100 mh/s while watching a movie last night

LOL

[fossil cedar]

Ohh damm how

[muted patio]

I left my mining profile on while playing satisfactory once

Surprisingly it worked just fine

[earnest olive]

laptop is just smurfing that's how

yeah I mine while gaming too

[fossil cedar]

Trident z for "looks"

[earnest olive]

it opportunistically uses whatever power the game does not use

so it doesn't bother anything

that's the best part about it

[timber crescent]

Look almost the same to me.

[earnest olive]

if I launch a game of league it just drops from 68 mh/s to 60 mh/s and I can still run 1440p144

[fossil cedar]

Nice

[earnest olive]

crucial ballistix 3600c16 is better than g.skill 3600c16 btw

my ballistix 3600c16 can overclock to 3800c14

my g.skill 3600c16 only does 3800c16 with looser timings

[timber crescent]

Looking at 3200 its an intel system.

[earnest olive]

intel still likes fast ram

ballistix can do 4500c16 on intel

:P

fitz got ballistix to 4500c16 on an intel board

[muted patio]

Not as much as AMD though, game benches are meh between 3200/3600

[earnest olive]

slower ram doesn't make or break the system but ballistix is only $94 anyways

fast ram can help your lows

it's like $16 more than the cheapest 3200c16 right now

I think it's worth in any midrange system

[timber crescent]

Yeah just trying to find if it has a white set like the 3200

[earnest olive]

it does

whether it is in stock or not is a different question

[fossil cedar]

Believe it's only 15 more than ballistix 3200 iirc

[earnest olive]

yeah there's cheaper 3200 than ballistix 3200 though

[fossil cedar]

Not cl16 to my knowledge

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fByqqs/oloy-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-md4u083216bjda

[muted patio]

10600K gained a whopping 2 FPS from 3000 to 3600. Even the averages and the lows didn't change much from the benches I saw. Some games the 10900k did worse with faster ram lol. IDK, up to the user if it's worth it or not.

[desert gulch]

Lol

[earnest olive]

tightening those secondaries/tertiaries will help

ballistix godly for overclocking on a budget

[desert gulch]

I mean there's rly not a lot of point for a couple fps imo

[earnest olive]

@timber crescent https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B083VN3YFH

rgb version is in stock

looks like non rgb is not

[desert gulch]

They going for white build?

[earnest olive]

they asked for white kit

black non-rgb is in stock for cheap

[desert gulch]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

It's like 1.80 cheaper than ballistix basically same price tho

[timber crescent]

White and black build was wanting white ram but might just get the black not to fond of how that rgb looks.

[solid dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JppZ3Z Could anyone check my compatibility? I am set on my build, I just wanted to know if everything fit, Thanks!

[earnest olive]

@timber crescent i have a white and black build using black ballistix

looks great

@solid dust yup you're good on compatibility

[solid dust]

Thanks @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

good part choices

[solid dust]

Thanks!

[earnest olive]

@timber crescent here's how that black ballistix looks in white and black build

oh wait

that's my old ram actually

well it's still black lol

you can't really see it

[timber crescent]

Yah doesn't look bad my current parts have a black motherboard cables and ram, with white case aio white lines. Gpu will be what ever I can get my hands on.

[earnest olive]

ah yes 2021

2019: nooo don't get zotac

2021: gpu is gpu

[desert gulch]

https://c.tenor.com/b16XxGNxvV4AAAAM/zotac-3080.gif
https://c.tenor.com/ne0S7tKlHJkAAAAM/zotac-joaquin-phoenix.gif

Zotac momento

[lament oyster]

I guess I’ll never buy ballistixs ram again lol

The RGB software doesn’t work lol

[stoic island]

...

use mobo software

[celest horizon]

I feel like I'm the only one who hasn't had issues with zotac ampere

Friends have had fans start to die

The thermal pads on mine are fine as well

[vagrant olive]

i havent had issues with my zotac 3060

it gets to like 85 during gaming but

its not awful

[muted patio]

85 is a bit warm yeah

[celest horizon]

lol, 85c core is surprisingly high

[vagrant olive]

85c on the uh

hot spot thing

in hwinfo

[stoic island]

How high does ampere start throttling, 95?

[earnest olive]

i think ampere and turing both thermal throttle at 83

[stoic island]

hm

I believe pascal was 85, right?

[earnest olive]

not sure

[stoic island]

and (my memory really bad) rdna was 105 tjunction, 95 core?

[earnest olive]

i know in afterburner on both turing and ampere 100% power limit is auto-linked to 83 and moves up/down with power limit by default

[stoic island]

and whatever rx580 was, was 85c core?

dunno

[earnest olive]

i only have a laptop to check right now but my laptop says 87C default configurable down to 75C

[desert gulch]

5700xt ref got to like 109 tjunction

then shut down

[stoic island]

lol

[desert gulch]

so prolly 105 ish

[earnest olive]

85c hotspot is different from 85c core tho

85c hotspot shouldn't be throttling

[stoic island]

yeye

[desert gulch]

yeyeyeye

[earnest olive]

my 3080 hit 110c hotspot with 38c core

vram hotspot

[stoic island]

lol

vision?

[earnest olive]

yeah

after modding 92c

[stoic island]

pad op

[earnest olive]

can go lower if more aggressive fan curve

down to mid 70s

[desert gulch]

nvidia moment

[tough kettle]

83 degrees, not sure if this is applicable to all cards though

[stoic island]

hm

[earnest olive]

all that i've worked with

[stoic island]

wonder if rdna was 95c or 85c core

[earnest olive]

and i've worked with a couple of them

you could probably look in TPU VBIOS database if you're really curious

[vagrant olive]

havent messed with oc'ing my card but if it gets to those temps at stock it would probably be unwise right

[earnest olive]

undervolting is a type of OC that can lower your temp

@stoic island

[vagrant olive]

alright, would the first step be to monitor power draw while gaming to see what i should limit it to

[stoic island]

5700xt

[earnest olive]

undervolting can also reduce power draw

[stoic island]

but yea

I just remembered that tpu gave you details on vbios

tpu good database

[earnest olive]

I love TPU

[hollow nebula]

Can anyone build me a overkill pc?

[earnest olive]

part list?

[hollow nebula]

Ye

[stoic island]

budget?

[earnest olive]

I have the perfect one

[hollow nebula]

Around 2.5k

[stoic island]

MAPLESTORY BUILD?

lol

[hollow nebula]

Can be a little more or less

[stoic island]

this is my perfect overkill thing
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/pLkXkL

[earnest olive]

yeah mr1111

you already know

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/DAOKOfan/saved/zrJ7XL

[hollow nebula]

Best for gaming and maybe stream

Ok lemme check

[stoic island]

anyways

NO THOSE ARE JOKES

[desert gulch]

need more ssd space

maybe throw in a 8tb?

[stoic island]

q4 doesn't offer 8tb iirc

rocket q does

[desert gulch]

well still get 8tb

[stoic island]

no

[earnest olive]

budget maplestory build currently weighing in at an insignificant $165K pocket lint

[stoic island]

lol

[desert gulch]

just for mass storage

[hollow nebula]

JEAUS

I can’t spend that much

😦

[earnest olive]

why not

it is a budget build to run maplestory

[stoic island]

those are joke lists

lemme make a real list

[jagged ember]

Bare minimum for maplestory tbh

[desert gulch]

would 1500 watts be enough for that thing?

[hollow nebula]

Maplesotry?

[earnest olive]

anyways let me give you an actual part list

[hollow nebula]

Ok

[earnest olive]

give me a minute

[jagged ember]

Lol yeah

[hollow nebula]

Lol

[stoic island]

I'm too lazy to make new lists so here's a decent one I edited
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c4MCW3

[hollow nebula]

Ok

[stoic island]

tbh bleach prob going to make an intel build too

I might edit that for 5600x

[hollow nebula]

Is there a better cpu

[stoic island]

uh what

[hollow nebula]

Like a i9

[stoic island]

...

[hollow nebula]

?

[stoic island]

i9 doesn't just mean better than i7

[earnest olive]

don't need it

[stoic island]

:P

[hollow nebula]

Really?

[stoic island]

Yes

[hollow nebula]

Oh

Why?

[stoic island]

it's just Intel product segmentation

[hollow nebula]

Oh

I just got regular nice

[stoic island]

Basically, i7 10700k = i9 11900k in performance

most games

[hollow nebula]

0_0

Does it look nice?

[stoic island]

also because Intel is dumb and embarrassed themselves with a 11900k

look nice in what way

[hollow nebula]

Ok

[stoic island]

there's enough budget left to make some aesthetic changes

[hollow nebula]

But is all in stock?

[stoic island]

all but 3080

[earnest olive]

the optimist list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LKXRxc
the impatient realist list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GFspkX

[stoic island]

as usual

lol

[stoic island]

OPTIMIST WHAT AND YOU GO LEADEX III 750W THATS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN REVO DF 850 >:(

11400 and freezer ii 360 also annoys me but

eh

[hollow nebula]

When is 3080 on stock?

Or is there a good prebuilt

[earnest olive]

d.f 850, 750, and 650 are all more expensive than this

[stoic island]

what

122$ revo

130$ leadex

[earnest olive]

leadex iii is showing 115 on mine

[stoic island]

wat

[earnest olive]

from newegg

[stoic island]

what the heck

that's new

[hollow nebula]

...

[stoic island]

when did they add this

[earnest olive]

you could definitely get away with a cheaper cooler but hey he's got the budget and i like quiet

[stoic island]

se-224-xt isn't loud

hell

[earnest olive]

could bump up the cpu to 11600K

[stoic island]

ninja 5 WILL be quieter

just because of how low rpm those fans are

if you just want quiet

[hollow nebula]

When is the hou on stock?

[stoic island]

ninja 5 is just thicc heatsink and low rpm fans for ultimate quiet

[hollow nebula]

Gpu*

[stoic island]

who knows

[earnest olive]

gpu in stock?

2023

[stoic island]

2022 according to Nvdia

[earnest olive]

(seriously, nvidia has said gpu stock will be bad until at least 2022)

[hollow nebula]

WHAT

[stoic island]

tbh prebuilt can get you a 3070 for 1500-2000$

[earnest olive]

there is a global semiconductor shortage lol it's not just affecting gpus

[stoic island]

xotic time

well

it's only affecting tsmc customers that didn't plan ahead*

:P

[earnest olive]

it's even affecting stuff like cars and routers that need computer chips but don't need cutting edge node tech

i remember seeing something about ISPs expecting a 60 week lead time on router shipments

that is more than 1 year

some car factories have had to temporarily shut down due to lack of chip supply

[stoic island]

pricing sad but decent prebuilt
https://xoticpc.com/collections/g3-avenger/products/g3-avenger-z490?conf=387078

lemme check wegg

actually kinda nice prebuilt on wegg
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali455/p/N82E16883360039

[hollow nebula]

None gpus are on stock

BEST PREBUILT

You guys have any best prebuilts?

[stoic island]

I just linked 2 lmao

xotic is for quality, not price to perf (good warranty and customization but it's like 20% more expensive)

wegg for all the perf

[hollow nebula]

So whoch is the best stuff

[stoic island]

there is never an absolute best

I say wegg

[hollow nebula]

The xotic?

[stoic island]

because xotic price high atm

[hollow nebula]

Oh ok

Is there one that 32 gb ram?

[stoic island]

just buy more ram and swap them in lmao

[hollow nebula]

Well thank you brodda

I would buy that

[odd cosmos]

What do u guys think is the best pre built around 1000

Or available parts with a bit of a higher budget (1100 or smt)

[floral otter]

Could any one suggest what component of my PC I should upgrade first? Either my gpu (gtx 1650 for an gtx 1660 super) or cpu (ryzen 2600x for an ryzen 5 5600x)
Games I mostly play right now is cyberpunk 2077 and minecraft

[muted patio]

How much for the 1660

[floral otter]

found one used for $450

[muted patio]

YIKES

No

[floral otter]

yea

so cpu?

[muted patio]

CPU won't do much with a 1650 under it

I'd take that $400 and find a GPU first

It will do more bang for hte buck

2600x still OK

[potent portal]

CPU will likely be the only thing you can get easily, but GPU would definitely be a better investment

[floral otter]

alright thanks

also forgot to ask, I found a gtx 1080 ti earlier, completely forgot about it, it was going for $700. Would that be fine?

[potent portal]

Yeah they're going for more than that lately, $700 is around the msrp price so not a bad deal

[floral otter]

alright, thanks agian

[odd cosmos]

Anyone knows best pre built for 1000? Or something similar maybe a bit more expansive at 1100 but with available parts?

And do u guys think getting integrated graphics like ryzen 3400g until gpu becomes more available is a good path?

[muted patio]

Not ryzen. Intel 11500 if you want igpu

Better cpu and igpu

[odd cosmos]

How good do u think it is

Can it replace the need for gpu?

Prob not but in the short term?

[muted patio]

In thebshort term yes

Better than ryzen integrated cpu

So when you get a gpu younhave a good cpu to go with it

[odd cosmos]

Ah ok do u think that’s the path I take or buy pre built?

[muted patio]

11500 on par with 5600x

Depends on howbpatient you want to be for a gpu

Its not getting any better sadly

[odd cosmos]

Um how good do u think 11500 is at gaming performance?

[muted patio]

5600x level

[odd cosmos]

It’s gonna be another 2 years when it comes back to normal isn’t it

[muted patio]

Idk about two years

[odd cosmos]

Like as in without a gpu

[muted patio]

But a while

[odd cosmos]

Yea

[muted patio]

Igpu isnt great tbh

[odd cosmos]

Any good ways of getting something like a 1660 super

[muted patio]

But just as goodbor better than ryzen igpu

[odd cosmos]

Yes tru but there really isn’t any options

[muted patio]

I know :/

[odd cosmos]

What r some ways?

[muted patio]

Patience of a saint

[odd cosmos]

Lol

[muted patio]

Warching all the online places like a hawk

[odd cosmos]

Do u think eBay is an option

Is it reliable

[muted patio]

R/hardwareswap

Ebay is all scalpers

[odd cosmos]

Lol

Um

It boils down to getting pre built

[fading sphinx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tLjnBc

[odd cosmos]

Or using igpu until gpu become available

[fading sphinx]

hi yall what would be a good filler graphics cardto use as a filler for now

ssorry typing with one hand

[odd cosmos]

Lol u can’t really do anything about the gpu situation ugh

Pre built seems like only option

Or igpu i suppose but ugh

[fading sphinx]

is there one thatll do fine for now im on a 750 ti rn so any inprovment is good for me rn

[shut lagoon]

What would be your budget for the card?

[fading sphinx]

im not on a real budget just dont wanna get too robbed

[odd cosmos]

Lol

So smt not over priced

[fading sphinx]

yea

[shut lagoon]

I mean thats kinda impossible rn

[fading sphinx]

i dlike 1080 bu ti dont think thats a thing rn

1080p

[muted patio]

Discontinued and going for 700-800 on ebay used

[shut lagoon]

wut

[fading sphinx]

oohh that i dont wanna spend on a gpu

id like to play in 1080p but i dont think thats possible rn

[shut lagoon]

it is, you can probably get a 1060 for pretty cheap(considering the current market) and it can play most games at 60+fps on meduim settings

on 1080p

[fading sphinx]

going for around 400-500

[potent portal]

Even a 950 or 1050 would be a good upgrade over 750 ti

1060 even more so, but make sure it's the 6 GB model

[fading sphinx]

kinda what im thinking

[shut lagoon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ROG-Strix-GeForce-GTX-1060-6GB-GDDR5-Graphics-Card-STRIX-GTX1060-O6G-GAME/174734093991?epid=22023264834&hash=item28aef6aea7:g:CQUAAOSwto1geQkH

thats actually not terrible

overpriced, but not terrible

[fading sphinx]

what would that have been going for on the previous market

[odd cosmos]

At that point I feel like pre built it way better

[shut lagoon]

But don't you already have the other parts?

[fading sphinx]

yea im too deep to go to a pre

[muted patio]

$400!!!

No way

[odd cosmos]

It’s not worth paying that much

[fading sphinx]

everything on pc parts picker thats zeroed out i have

[odd cosmos]

Way too much

[muted patio]

Hell no lol

[potent portal]

That was $150 maybe before the market insanity

[fading sphinx]

hmm

[odd cosmos]

Prob even lower second hand

[shut lagoon]

I mean he said his budget was 400-500, and considering the current market that card for 420 isn't terrible(once again considering the current market). Now, if this was a year ago, I'd be saying somthing different

So yes, veeerrryyy overpriced, but not so much considering the current market

[fading sphinx]

for 400 would i be happy enough

idk

[odd cosmos]

Um ig so but I feel like keeping the money is prob better

[potent portal]

You might regret it later, I would

[odd cosmos]

Just save it

[muted patio]

That card is terrible for $420.

[fading sphinx]

ny predictions to when thisll blow over

[shut lagoon]

I would say only get it if your really need/want the card. otherwise, you have a graphics card and thats more than a lot of screwed over people can say

[robust lake]

I mean try to get 3060 or 3060 ti for 550

[potent portal]

$400 to $500 should be a 3060 once you can get your hands on one

[robust lake]

It is better

[shut lagoon]

You can't get a 3060 for 550

[robust lake]

You can

[potent portal]

Yes you can

[shut lagoon]

if you have bots

[robust lake]

No

[potent portal]

Shuffle

[robust lake]

I got 2 for my friends

[fading sphinx]

get me one ill give you 100$

[robust lake]

From new egg

With out shuffle

[potent portal]

LOTS of 3060s drop in the shuffle

[fading sphinx]

idk how the shuffle works

[odd cosmos]

Yea and they come on sale once in a while

[shut lagoon]

bru Ive been going for a 3070 since the shuffle first started and haven't gotten one yet

but ig they have a lot more 3060s?

[robust lake]

3070s are common too

[shut lagoon]

So im just unlucky

[robust lake]

Only 3060 ti and 3080 are rare

[fading sphinx]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali489/p/N82E16883360084?Description=3060&cm_re=3060-_-83-360-084-_-Product&quicklink=true

[potent portal]

Every day around 10 AM PST go to https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle and select the items you'd be willing to buy, then hope your ticket is pulled in the drawing

[fading sphinx]

at the curent market just get this and use the card sell the rest off

@potent portal thanks

[shut lagoon]

you can get a 3060 for around 800-850 on the aftermarket, just btw

[tough kettle]

it is overpriced and a terrible deal

[shut lagoon]

Given the current market

[tough kettle]

yes

given the current market

[shut lagoon]

I literally can't find a 1060 (6gb) for less than 400 on ebay

so 420 for a strix card isn't a terrible deal

[muted patio]

For a $299 MSRP card, that's bad

[shut lagoon]

once again, giiiveeennnn the currreeennntttt mmmmmmaaaaaaarrrrrrrkkkkkkkeeeeeeet

[potent portal]

Patience and the shuffle are a much better option

[shut lagoon]

I just have had really bad luck with the shuffles ig, so I have viewed the shuffles as more of a mega backup plan. But ig if other people are having better luck yea I'd agree

[odd cosmos]

The shuffle doesn’t include budget cards 😥

[potent portal]

Plenty of people here have won the shuffle, it just takes patience

[potent portal]

If you mean lower end stuff like XX50 cards those don't exist in the current gen, and only new stock is in the shuffle

[odd cosmos]

Yea but they too expansive for me 😕

[fading sphinx]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-GeForce-GTX-970-4GB-GDDR5-Graphics-Card-BETTER-THAN-GTX-1650-RX-570/324574219234?epid=220560548&hash=item4b92218be2:g:SB8AAOSwYd5geQCa

what about this seems decent

[tough kettle]

na

look at FB marketplace

eBay isn't good for deals on GPU's anymore

[potent portal]

That's actually not bad

[fading sphinx]

my marketplace is mostly san antonio too many scammers there to do anything

[potent portal]

Even before market mess that GPU would have been around $200

[fading sphinx]

kinda what i was thinking but is it a good make

[tough kettle]

Na 970's used to go for around 100

one or two still do

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/456944208709521/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post

[fading sphinx]

200 in the current market dosent seem too bad considering

[tough kettle]

4GB DDR5 970

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1052256401925193/?ref=search&referral_code=marketplace_search&referral_story_type=post

1060 6GB for 100

even this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GTX-970/143977189002?hash=item2185b58e8a:g:UUkAAOSwAblgTP0h

[fading sphinx]

i dont feel too bad paying 2 for it shipped to me

is that common

[potent portal]

I'd be wary about people putting things like "shipping only" in listings, you send the money and they send you a picture of a middle finger

If you do Facebook market I mean. Best to look locally and meet in person.

[fading sphinx]

yea id only get something shipped from ebay not an indevidual

[potent portal]

That's probably a scam, notice they relisted the same GPU

[tough kettle]

where?

I don't see them re-listing the same GPU

[potent portal]

Refresh your browser lol

[fading sphinx]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-GeForce-GTX-970-DirectX-12-4GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0-VCGGTX9704XPB/184768355284?epid=220560548&hash=item2b050d5bd4%3Ag%3ACuEAAOSw2AxgeHK9&LH_BIN=1

199 free shippimng

display port out tho

[tough kettle]

wait he did re-list it, for a higher price...

your's shows 85+free shipping

mine shows 185+free shipping...

[potent portal]

LOL he realized his typo and canceled it

[fading sphinx]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-6GB-Graphics-Card/194041371351?hash=item2d2dc45ad7:g:QGwAAOSwzWxgeQY2

[potent portal]

Scam

[tough kettle]

sce,m

[fading sphinx]

felt like it

how is ebay ok with this

[potent portal]

They're not

They take down the ones that get reported

[fading sphinx]

what happens if i buy one

[potent portal]

If you're lucky paypal refunds your money in less than a month, if not it could be 3+ months

[fading sphinx]

sounds suck

[potent portal]

99% chance you get nothing for your money

[fading sphinx]

but 1%isnt bad odds

[potent portal]

That 1% is mostly "you get an empty box" anyway

[fading sphinx]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-EVGA-GeForce-GTX-980-SC-4GB-SC-GAMING-Silent-Cooling-Graphics-Card/293560526968?epid=22037365642&hash=item4459922878%3Ag%3AdV4AAOSwJ15epgj5&LH_BIN=1

[muted patio]

That's gonna need a full teardown and clean

Gross

[fading sphinx]

yea it looked dusty

but i dont mind cleaning it if it wouldent be too bad

preformance wise

[rich helm]

Gpus are semi difficult to tear down

[muted patio]

that's not bad actually

1660TI performance for $250

[rich helm]

Ooh

[muted patio]

OH WAIT

that's not a 980 TI lol

just a 980

[rich helm]

So like 1660

Probably

[frank stirrup]

slightly worse iirc

[muted patio]

1060 ish

6 GB

[rich helm]

Oh oof

That’s much worse isn’t it

[muted patio]

lil bit

[fading sphinx]

good news or bad news im lost

[frank stirrup]

not much worse

[frank stirrup]

gud buy

[muted patio]

1060 6 GB MSRP is 299 so not bad

Howver

[fading sphinx]

One or more sellers can't accept payments right now. Contact the sellers for help.

[muted patio]

with 4 GB vram it's 1080p ONLY

[fading sphinx]

weird

[frank stirrup]

you can do 1440p on 4gb at low

for many games

like pre 2017 ish

[muted patio]

Yeah, that's pushing it

[potent portal]

Depends heavily on the game, Fallout 4 with only a few mods frequently crashed my old 4GB card maxing out the vram

And that was 1080p

[frank stirrup]

I can do fallout 4 with no mods on 1440 downscaled to 1080 on my 4gb 570

Its like 30fps but I have anti aliasing on medium

[potent portal]

Yeah but who does fallout without mods

[rich helm]

I tried running optimuum texture pack on Java with max settings and crashed because of vram

[frank stirrup]

I personally didnt even like the gamee ngl

[rich helm]

I have 8gb lol

[potent portal]

Mods make everything better 😉

[frank stirrup]

there is no way that was the error then

[rich helm]

I had other graphics things too

[fading sphinx]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-FTW-6GB-GDDR5-Video-Card/254942417267?epid=222467009&hash=item3b5bc09173%3Ag%3AlMYAAOSwr7Rgd5Zg&LH_BIN=1

i feel like its getting kinda out of the ball park asfar as good deals

on these cheapercards

[potent portal]

A 3060 performs better, at $400 with shipping that's not a good deal

[frank stirrup]

unless they were taking 6gb vram again no problem

[surreal robin]

Hey I was wondering if I could use an am2/am3 bracket on an am4 cooler

[earnest olive]

yes

AM2/AM3/AM3+/AM4 all have the exact same mounting holes for coolers

[plucky sleet]

im helping this guy out

its funny af

we were all here at some point

[limber sierra]

Hey there I built a PC for a client that streams warzone. She's had a couple of system crashes so I replaced the power supply because I saw that the 12 volt rail was falling well below 11.5

Tonight I get this message from her with pictures of another crash. This looks more like a defective video card to me, you agree?

It's a brand new EVGA 3060 which is why I'm so skeptical. Could it be the CPU, motherboard or ram?

[frank stirrup]

Looks like an overclock didnt work well error to me

but yeah either ram or graphics card

[limber sierra]

This is a 9700k with 32 gigs of Corsair 3200 memory completely stock, unless you count the XMP enabled which I know is technically overclocking but still

After installing the new power supply I stress tested the PC with cinebench and heaven running simultaneously for over an hour and there was no crash

[flint sapphire]

Reseat the gpu and pray

[potent portal]

Did you remove the old GPU drivers properly with DDU when you changed graphics cards?

Misread, thought it was an upgrade build, but DDU may still help if settings or the drivers are corrupted

[limber sierra]

I did not use ddu but she had the second most recent NVIDIA drivers installed and when I switched the power supply I did a clean install of the latest drivers

[potent portal]

What was running when it crashed like that? What happened immediately before the crash? That looks like it could be a buggy game that crashed the video drivers.

[limber sierra]

She was running war zone and I assume obs for streaming

I showed her how to check the Windows system log so hopefully she'll find something she can send me tomorrow but it might not help at all

I'm just going to give her my 1080 TI that's been completely fine for years and rma the 3060

If it's still crashes with that video card and the replacement power supply then I'm going to be really pissed

[tight sorrel]

need advice... anyone know of a mesh front case that doesnt have a glass side?

[fossil cedar]

I think fractal meshify c has no glass

[potent portal]

There's a version without it at least, 4 different variants

[tight sorrel]

thanks! youre right

[modest shell]

Guys any idea where to find rtx3090 or 3080......any feed or alerts link ?

Pls Pvt message me with any info...main chat at times get overwhelmed

[blazing aurora]

me lol

i'm playing new vegas for the first time and while it's a wonderful game it crashes/bugs out every 3 minutes lol

hopefully there's some stability mods out there or something

[potent portal]

Look on Nexus Mods for the Unofficial Patch projects

[warped moat]

Also try new Vegas anti crash (NVAC)

[lament fulcrum]

@dapper fern you probably bent a pin when you were putting in the usb 3.0 plug. I did and only have 1 working usb on the front io now.

[blazing aurora]

thanks

[blazing aurora]

nice, i'll try that out

[earnest olive]

1080ti is a more powerful card than 3060

just be aware of that

[verbal quarry]

What are the specs for both????

[muted patio]

WDYM specs

It's about 30-35% faster than a 3060

Keep the TI and give GF the 3060 lol

[earnest olive]

guru3d EVGA 3060 XC time spy score: 8762
my bottom of the barrel dual fan zotac 1080ti: 10378

not quite 30-35% but still significant difference

[verbal quarry]

Good lord that seems like a scam

[earnest olive]

it's a customer's 3060 that is apparently failing so understandable he wants to get the system running

[muted patio]

Not really

This is why we watch benchmarks

[earnest olive]

just wanted him to be aware that he is downgrading