#building-and-recc-chat

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junior mural
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Has anybody used macrium reflect to copy files

jagged ember
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I use synchredible

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very nice program; just gotta drag the ads off into a corner so they don't bother you

lyric thistle
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I used macrium

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Gets the job done

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Cloned ~300GB of stuff on a 1TB drive onto my 500GB ssd

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Resizing the partition was a little finicky, I had a small small portion of the drive left over that I couldn't manage to allocate for the partition that should've been able to be allocated

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Annoying but not the end of the world

fossil cedar
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Ouch

wispy grotto
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DUDE

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WHY

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THAT HURT ME AND MY 1070

median tiger
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i have the worst specs ever

hallow mesa
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I have medium tier specs

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it kinda sucks because it was good a while ago

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Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 2060
16gb DDR4 3200mhz CVP Ram
B550 Tuf Gaming Plus
512 GB SSD

stoic island
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decent nuff

fossil cedar
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Doesn't suck lol pretty good for mid range

worldly sierra
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Thats still good lol

hallow mesa
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My goal:
Ryzen 5 3600
RTX 3060-3070
16gb DDR4 3600mhz
B550 TUF
2x 1tb SSD

stoic island
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whatever cvp is

worldly sierra
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My goal is a dedicated gpu lol

hallow mesa
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corsair vengance pro

fossil cedar
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3060 is like 5% max over a 2060 not worth 3060 ti tho

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But tbh wait for 4000 series at that stage

hallow mesa
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hm

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ight

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I want a 3070 mostly

stoic island
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3060ti maybe worth

desert gulch
hallow mesa
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because dat 2080 pog

stoic island
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but 3060 not a big upgrade

hallow mesa
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better than the 2080

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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It's like prolly 15% better than a 2060

stoic island
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something like that

hallow mesa
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eh

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if I'm there I'd rather get a 3070

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tbh

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I hear it can work fine with a 3600

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is that true?

desert gulch
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Yeah

hallow mesa
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good

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I'm happy with my current PC though

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it can run some games at up to 300 fps

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which is nice

fossil cedar
worldly sierra
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Dang I cant send youtube links...

worldly sierra
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Well Marc made a video with that combo :P

fossil cedar
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Who?

worldly sierra
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ScatterVolt

hallow mesa
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honestly

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I find it funny

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I've never had any cooling problems

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everything works at a steady temp

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the highest my CPU gets to is like, 50c

rich helm
hallow mesa
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because of high graphics and cpu intensive work

fossil cedar
hallow mesa
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and my gpu gets to similar

rich helm
desert gulch
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Nah

jagged ember
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It can do 1440p fine

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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3600 could even power a 3080 on like 1440p tbh

jagged ember
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Lol I have a 3600 2070s

hallow mesa
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I think my next upgrade to my PC is going to be a 1tb SSD

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im running low on space

rich helm
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Same

jagged ember
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I can get 100+fps on apex if most stuff is set low on 1440p

rich helm
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But want to buy keeb instead

hallow mesa
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27.4gb free

fossil cedar
jagged ember
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3060ti was your only choice let's be fair

rich helm
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With my 3060ti

jagged ember
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I guess so?

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I can try run apex on all high

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Aw but not now I've got a bunch of tabs open

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Will affect numbers

fossil cedar
jagged ember
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Ah

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Well still, a ti is more worth your money

hallow mesa
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oof

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strange

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my cpu is getting at 61c

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idk why

jagged ember
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Hm that's totally normal

hallow mesa
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hm

jagged ember
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Actually that's very nice under load

hallow mesa
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I usually got really low temps before

desert gulch
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That's fine

jagged ember
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Very very nice

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Pog even

hallow mesa
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ye im playing Cities Skylines

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which you know

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very CPU intensive

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ill try another game

jagged ember
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I get 73 with prime95 torture test

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All cache levels

fossil cedar
hallow mesa
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oh yeah btw

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i only have the stock wraith cooler

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im looking to upgrade that to smthn else (mainly for cosmetic purposes)

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
stoic island
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gammaxx gt gammaxx bk etc are other gammaxx varients that are still good

hallow mesa
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honestly looks really good

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the veetro

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vetroo

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i mean

fossil cedar
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Vetroo is pretty i prefer the id cooling se 224 tho

worldly sierra
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GTE v2 isnt bad either

fossil cedar
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No it's okay i just think the fans on the gammaxx coolers look cheap

worldly sierra
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I would spend the extra 10 bucks or so on the arctic freezer 34

fossil cedar
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Id cooling or vetroo look better imo and better at cooling

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Also id and vetroo have rgb fans

worldly sierra
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Idk about how good they are at cooling, but looks i prefer the freezer 34

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Oh well, i mean i dont really like RGB lol

stoic island
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I mean Freezer 50 got a bad review

fossil cedar
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Vetroo rgb, id cooling has a white varient and a rgb varient

hallow mesa
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sorry wrong gif

fossil cedar
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Lmao

cyan plaza
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👀 how evga is holding off for elite memebers for 24 hours on new products

fossil cedar
cyan plaza
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might be able to get a new card when a new onec omes out now

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o rip forgot to change channel Dumb but i might do that now

round stream
fossil cedar
cyan plaza
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o wait also i'm a elite member so i can compare price that pc parts picker won't show for that 🤦‍♂️ ill have to recheack my build now

round stream
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oh ok

fossil cedar
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Also don't need 3070 performance

cyan plaza
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save money wait nevermind There are currently no ELITE Member products available. Please check back later.

little osprey
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30 usd Vetroo V5 performs similar to se 224 xt

fossil cedar
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Ohh i didn't know that I've only seen the rgb one

little osprey
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i think also ets t50 axe i dont remember

little osprey
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u can turn the rgb off if u dont like it kekw

fossil cedar
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Ohh i meant like white fan

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Can you turn off the rgb tho? Thought it wasn't argb and there was just a power cable on the cooler

mild lance
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i built my first pc today! took 3 hours

little osprey
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lets see it

mild lance
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1 second

mild lance
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i will post in the build pics

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
mild lance
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i panicked when putting in the GPU since it wasnt fitting

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until i realized there was a small rubber case on the connector

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not the best parts but miles ahead of what i had

fossil cedar
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Yes lol that's an easy mistake

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What specs does it have?

mild lance
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otherwise it was really fun

fossil cedar
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Nice

mild lance
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gpu is 1660 super, cpu is i7 9700k, 16gb ram, mb is msi z390 a pro

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case is diy skyline 06wr

fossil cedar
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Nice

mild lance
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only "rgb" is the fans. didnt spend extra on that

fossil cedar
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Fair rgb gets expensive

mild lance
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oh psu is coolmaster 750w 80 bronze

fossil cedar
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Nice

mild lance
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yeah going from low graphics witcher 3 with some lag to ultra with no lag is big

fossil cedar
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Nice, you probs upgraded from a laptop?

mild lance
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yes

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an i5

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now i boot in like 15 seconds

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vs 5-6 mins

fossil cedar
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Great

round stream
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what is a rgb, d rgb and other letter rgbs

muted patio
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RGB is 12 volt, 4 pin

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D/ARGB is 3 pin 5 volt

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Not interchangeable

little osprey
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has to do with customization as well

round stream
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which is better

muted patio
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aRGB

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arguably

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or dRGB

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same same

round stream
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ok

fossil cedar
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Argb stands for addressable ie it's not just a constant rgb cycle, it can be changed to what you want in software or something

earnest olive
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drgb stands for digital

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and is just what some manufacturers call argb

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no difference

round stream
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ohhhh

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ok im getting Drgb

earnest olive
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argb/drgb is generally better if your hardware supports it

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it can do anything regular rgb can do on top of rainbow/per-led effects

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and more power efficient i believe

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since it runs at much lower voltage

cold sorrel
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Phanteks likes using dRGB instead of aRGB.

earnest olive
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yeah phanteks is the biggest one

cold sorrel
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has a Phanteks case

earnest olive
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asus just calls it addressable gen 2

round stream
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yea coler master MB311 has drgb fans

earnest olive
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indeed

median tiger
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i hab intel celeron n3060 ;c

cold sorrel
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I'm happy I got my 3060. In this market, any recent card you can get your paws on is a good card.

earnest olive
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lol

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intel celeron n3060

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the 3060 that nobody wants

harsh sandal
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I just posted a pic in build-pics let me know what you guys or gals think

oblique moth
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Hey all, i'm a newbie at liquid cooling and am trying to plan my loop before i purchase all the parts. anyone have experience working in the Lian Li o11 XL and with the EK front distro plate?

flint quiver
hallow glen
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this build that i made depends on the shuffle, so it probably wont ever happen. The 0 dollars are from a bb gift card and I am planning on selling my old imac for 300-400 dollars. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ht3zwz is this a good hypothetical build?

earnest olive
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case looks offensively horrible

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rest is fine

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better cpu coolers exist for cheaper though

lyric thistle
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The case looks bland but fine lol

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Would be concerned about front fan mounts

earnest olive
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that does not look like enough airflow for 500 watts of cpu and gpu

lyric thistle
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Put high static pressure fans in the front

earnest olive
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do you already own this case

hallow glen
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what is high static pressure fans

rich helm
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Just Yeet a p360a

earnest olive
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if not definitely do not buy

hallow glen
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no i dont

lyric thistle
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Fan with more torque 💪

earnest olive
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this case looks like some $20 garbage from 2009

potent portal
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Eww front drive cages

earnest olive
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i've built in actual $20 cases that looked like this

potent portal
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Who uses that many 3.5" drives these days

earnest olive
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but those $20 cases had better airflow

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LOL

lyric thistle
earnest olive
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$20 case with a 120mm front fan grill for intake

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including a 120mm front fan and 92mm exhaust

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front fan even had blue led

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gotta say pretty solid for a case that costs as much as lunch

lyric thistle
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That's a fluffy lunch

potent portal
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Intel stock cooler 🤢

earnest olive
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bro

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it's an i3 and the case has no transparent panel

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that stock cooler was whisper quiet

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well you could kinda see it through the side vent holes

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but still

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stock cooler does great on an i3

potent portal
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I've seen i3 overpower that cooler lmao

earnest olive
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but how

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even in cinebench it was chillin

hallow glen
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is the 4000d good

earnest olive
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4000d airflow is excellent

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4000d non airflow not so much

hallow glen
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oh

earnest olive
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4000d airflow is one of my favorite cases of all time

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highly recommend for beginners

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the cable management in that case is excellent

hallow glen
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oh alright ill get that one then

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does it come with fans

earnest olive
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yeah 2 of them

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i added 360mm liquid cooler to make 5

hallow glen
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how much room for more fans does it have

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oh ok

earnest olive
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if you aren't using liquid cooler then you should add some

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i also did an air cooled build in it where i added 3 rgb fans to the front

hallow glen
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is the arctic p12 good?

earnest olive
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yes

hallow glen
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ok

earnest olive
hallow glen
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looks nice

earnest olive
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air cooled 4000d airflow with the stock fans as exhaust and 3 rgb added to front

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and the liquid cooled one

hallow glen
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i might go liqued cooled

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is it hard to maintain?

muted patio
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No

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Just occasional dusting like anything else

earnest olive
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aios are install and forget

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until it fails in 10 years

muted patio
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AI(O's don't really need maintenance

earnest olive
hallow glen
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oh ok so u dont have to change the water

muted patio
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Nope

earnest olive
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only custom loops need maintenance like that

hallow glen
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ok

earnest olive
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most aios don't even let you change the coolant lol

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some do

muted patio
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Most aren't water anyway, they're propylene glycol

hallow glen
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what is a good aio

earnest olive
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aios have very little variance

muted patio
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Arctic freezer II or EK AIO 240mm

earnest olive
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most of them have the same asetek pump inside

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you can pretty much buy whichever you think looks good and it'll do fine

stoic island
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galahad third one

earnest olive
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evga clc is also good price/perf

stoic island
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galahad freezer ii and ek-aio are the three really good non-asetek bois

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clc is loud boi

muted patio
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EVGA has super noisy fans tho

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I have

stoic island
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I think clc is asetek gen 6 or whatever?

muted patio
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I changed fans XD

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EVGA has weird pump also

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Gen 5 I think?

earnest olive
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I changed the stock fans of my td500 mesh

stoic island
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all I know is it has a tiny impeller

muted patio
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Gen 6 is newer

hallow glen
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what about the fractal design celcius

stoic island
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it was a tinny plastic impeller

earnest olive
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they weren't loud at load but they made a clicking sound at low rpm

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drove me crazy

stoic island
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rip

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probably defect

earnest olive
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idk I just replaced them with $3 id-cooling fans

stoic island
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took a quick peek at tpu testing

hallow glen
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what about the enermax liqmax III 360 weird name

potent portal
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The one with the slime gumming up the block?

muted patio
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I think they're past that

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But I still don't trust them

earnest olive
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that was an older version

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liqmax 3 apparently fixed it

hallow glen
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hmm

muted patio
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Time will tell

earnest olive
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indeed

hallow glen
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what about cooler master masterliquid ml240l RGB V2. im just gonna go for 240 and not 360

stoic island
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pretty sure 3 actually fixes it

potent portal
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ML240L V2 is meh, it's cheap for a reason

muted patio
stoic island
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yeye

muted patio
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EK AIO for $120 with Vardar fans and RGB is pretty good for the money

stoic island
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and freezer ii is very good too

hallow glen
stoic island
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galahad is just good performing, pricing very meh, but people like the looks

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not necessary for 3600c16 on Intel but your choice

muted patio
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OH, I thought they were AMD?

hallow glen
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oh yeah i forgot it was a ryzen build first

muted patio
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Ah

hallow glen
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i changed bc it was too expensive

muted patio
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3200 fine for Intel

hallow glen
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k

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what about the c

muted patio
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C16 fine

hallow glen
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k

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is that nanoseconds? 16 nanoseconds

muted patio
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Yes

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Cas Latency

hallow glen
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ok

potent portal
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C16 refers to clock cycles, not nanoseconds. To find the timing in ns, "CAS"/("clock speed"/2000)

hallow glen
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ok cool

hallow glen
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oh yeah

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forgot

fossil cedar
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its on a promo so if youre waiting and the promo goes you might want to find a different psu because its 110 -30$, you could buy a enermax revolution df 750w for that price

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i assume you already have the 10600k?

hallow glen
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bb gift card that i have

fossil cedar
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fair

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i would get 11400 if you dont have already tho imo unless youre gonna OC your cpu high

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also where are you getting a 4000d airflow for 45$???

hallow glen
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its with the bb gift card but its going over the 300 dollars

fossil cedar
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what do you mean?

robust lake
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He is using the gift card so he only need to add 45$

hallow glen
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yeah

fossil cedar
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ahhh

hallow glen
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hmmm

fossil cedar
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are you gonna do some heavy or semi overclocking?

hallow glen
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well im just going to use it for gaming, i dont know anything about oc

fossil cedar
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then youre spending unnecessary money on buying an overlclocked processor

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get a i5 11400 instead

hallow glen
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ol

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ok

fossil cedar
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with a b560 motherboard

hallow glen
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ok

fossil cedar
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hold on ill put in your list

hallow glen
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k

fossil cedar
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only went z590 because there was like 3 b560 boards

hallow glen
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im going to add a custom b560 board from newegg pcpartpicker doesnt have all of the boards

fossil cedar
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fair enough

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well tbh 180 is pretty decent and its a nice mobo but up to you

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ohh nvm thought it was asus not asrock :/

hallow glen
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sooooo, not as good?

fossil cedar
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also you dont need an aio but i assume you want it for the looks

hallow glen
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eh

fossil cedar
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ehh asrock just doesnt like intel r sum :/ still cheap for a z590 tho

hallow glen
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i dont really need it but someone recommended an aio

fossil cedar
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if you dont want it for aesthetics then you can get like a 30$ cooler instead

hallow glen
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yeah

fossil cedar
hallow glen
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ok imma add some case fans bc the aio is gone

fossil cedar
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okay

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id recommend arctic p12s

hallow glen
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yeah thats what im adding

fossil cedar
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👍

hallow glen
fossil cedar
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are you going to change the motherboard or no?

hallow glen
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nah

fossil cedar
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btw arctic have a pack of fans instead of single

hallow glen
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the gpu depends on the shuffle so I'm just hoping

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ok

hallow glen
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added

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imma post this in general

gilded dove
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hello guys

lyric venture
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Hello

frank vapor
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hi

cold sorrel
frank vapor
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ok

torpid notch
cold sorrel
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Sheer dumb luck. Won the shuffle last week.

winged lion
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Rip it was a 3060

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Better than nothing though

cold sorrel
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Better than a failing laptop with a mobile 1060

winged lion
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Yep

desert gulch
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For 180 for a b550 you'd be better off going for an x570

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But for that build I'd go for the b550 pro-vdh wifi

hallow glen
desert gulch
hallow glen
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k

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do u have a suggestion?

desert gulch
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Uhh

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B560 pro4 is pretty pog

hallow glen
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ok

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thats not in stock

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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They restock all the time

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Not hard to get one

fossil cedar
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true they said they were gonna wait for some to come into stock i think

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but 180 aint bad for z590

desert gulch
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Yes it is

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Especially if you won't use any of it's features over b560 features

lavish hazel
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Hey guys doing a build using an old deepcool tower. About to connect the the JFP1 cables and noticed that the power led are both labeled positive. It's obviously an error. One is grey cable and the other black. How would I figure out which on is actually positive?

muted patio
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Black is probs negative. If the LED doesn't work the way you hook it up, just power down and switch it. It won't hurt anything if it's backwards.

lavish hazel
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Cool thanks

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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So why do z590

fossil cedar
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idk i just said its an option but b560 probs better waiting for stock

vague oracle
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I went ahead and took the hard drive in my external hard drive out of it and it’s so much faster now

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It’s now going through sata instead of usb

little osprey
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i have fast internet speed but theres a weird pattern for downloading and getting 1MB per second

fossil cedar
little osprey
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ah ok

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im using tesltra modern

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and im only one using it

fossil cedar
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okay, is there a download tab in settings?

little osprey
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yeah

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wait

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no

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what download tab

fossil cedar
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anything along those lines?

stoic island
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Wat

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Looks like normal behavior

little osprey
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???

stoic island
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8mbps is about 1mb/s anyways

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There's also always some fluxuation in download speed

fossil cedar
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ohh yeah i misread

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i thought they did in mb/s

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you have a very slow connection to the internet

sharp tundra
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Yo, you think a 5800x would be good for Architectural design and rendering aswell as gaming?

little osprey
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im only one using it

fossil cedar
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are you using wifi?

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and what is your advertised speed from provider?

still roostBOT
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CEO of your mum#8790 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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what

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i had good internet a month ago

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now its trash

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
little osprey
sharp tundra
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Well I'm getting a 3080, so I think I'll be good either way.

fossil cedar
sharp tundra
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But I'm gonna start learning and teaching my self architecture so that way I can make some big bucks, and build my dream house

little osprey
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wdym

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
# little osprey wdym

what speeds where you getting a month ago, it doesnt really matter that modem you have

little osprey
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i was download at 2 - 6 mb

sharp tundra
vague oracle
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@sharp tundra Im using a 3700x for cad for engineering and it works perfectly fine so im sure a 5800x would be good

fossil cedar
vague oracle
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What software is it?

sharp tundra
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Well, this pc wasn't being built on pure performance. And it's not that I have a budget, it's just I'd rather not spend $20k on a computer ya know?

little osprey
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@fossil cedar i was downloading 2 - 6mb's now im getting 200 kb - 1mb

sharp tundra
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Let me find the list of what I'm getting

fossil cedar
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mb call your provider then

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thats still kinda low tho do you live in the country side or something?

vague oracle
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^ in my past experiences for some reason my old provider loved to throttle me down

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screw you optimum

lyric thistle
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America bbnohappy

fossil cedar
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that would be like super illegal anywhere but america

lyric thistle
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Gotta love having a 6mbps plan that's 55 bucks a month

fossil cedar
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oof

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thats still low

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but anyway

lyric thistle
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I want to move into town where there's probably better options

sharp tundra
fossil cedar
sharp tundra
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Amd then later down the line, I was going to get a full corsair custom loop

vague oracle
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Mbd is too big

fossil cedar
sharp tundra
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Nope

lyric thistle
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Absolutely not zack

fossil cedar
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why not?

lyric thistle
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Because att

vague oracle
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As much as a custom loop is cool i dont see a point if youre not doing massive OCing

sharp tundra
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Well one, I want an all corsair build cause I'm being picky, and two, I like the look of the corsair H150i Elite

fossil cedar
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nomad the mobo is too big for case

vague oracle
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^

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Oh the H150i is an AIO

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not a custom loop

fossil cedar
sharp tundra
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It's not too big. It's just pcpp doesn't include the lip under the cable cover as usable space, the mobo will only go underneath it by like a couple mm

potent portal
sharp tundra
#

And since that mobo has all the cables going out the side, I won't have to worry about conflict with the cable gaurd

#

It'll be the cleanest PC you've seen in a while, lol

vague oracle
#

What about screw holes?

sharp tundra
#

The screw holes are all ATX

vague oracle
#

But does the motherboard have an ATX screw layout?

sharp tundra
#

Yes

fossil cedar
# potent portal AT&T I'm guessing

ohhh america internet and mobile network rip offs, ik they have more space to cover but my internet is like €40 for 120mbps down and 15 or so up(idk why just dont get equal down and up speeds here most of time) and my mobile bill atm is €10 for unlimited data calls texts etc and going up to €20 i think in a few months after the promotional period ended

fossil cedar
#

nomad do need the pcie 4.0 drive?

#

bit overkill unless youre doing constant large transfers

sharp tundra
#

The only difference between ATX, amd Gigabyte E-ATX is that the mobo is about an inch wider.

#

I say gigabyte E-ATX because E-ATX isn't standardized

fossil cedar
#

thats fine then

sharp tundra
fossil cedar
#

okayyyy

#

but like if not you could get a 2tb pilot e or something and save like 170$

sharp tundra
#

I mean, I don't need a $700 mobo either, but it looks cool so I'm getting it

fossil cedar
#

thats the bump from a 5800x to 5900x

vague oracle
#

Yeah only reason why I have a $600 mobo is because I got it combined with a cpu for $400 with the cpu included in that price

#

Normally I’d never say to spend more than $300 on a mobo but if you think it looks cool go for it

sharp tundra
#

Again, I'm being picky and doing only a full corsair build.

#

Why?

vague oracle
#

Nothing wrong with that

sharp tundra
#

Because I can

vague oracle
#

Personally I love Corsair

sharp tundra
#

And also, if I every have a problem with anything, I only 1 company I have to talk to.

fossil cedar
#

but for the sacrifice of your drive not being corsair, you could go from a 5900x from a 5800x

sharp tundra
#

Not 30 different ones

fossil cedar
#

but its then 2 companies

#

also gl getting a 3080 for 700

sharp tundra
#

Well, 4 companies, Gigabyte, Corsair, AMD, amd Nvidia

vague oracle
#

I’ve been search for one for weeks now and it’s a pain in the ass to even find a 3070 for $700

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
vague oracle
#

lucky

sharp tundra
#

I'll find a 3080 for $700, just you see

little osprey
#

im downloading at 200 kb

#

and have good internet moderm

fossil cedar
sharp tundra
#

I just haven't been looking right now cause I'm not worrying about the pc at this very moment, cause I'm working on getting a motorcycle instead

#

And I spend too much money on Legos, lol

fossil cedar
little osprey
fossil cedar
little osprey
#

should i reset it?

fossil cedar
#

worth a shot

little osprey
#

hm yeah

sharp tundra
little osprey
#

i also have 2 google connectors

sharp tundra
#

2 weeks ago I bought the UCS A-Wing for $200 (nearly bought the Collesseum instead for $550)

fossil cedar
#

oml

little osprey
#

Ok

sharp tundra
#

I may get the UCS Mellinium Falcon at some point

#

That's a $800 set :P

little osprey
sharp tundra
little osprey
#

damn how much you reckon?

sharp tundra
#

Depends on where you live, what the availability is

fossil cedar
still roostBOT
#
CEO of your mum#8790 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

sharp tundra
#

But you'll have to pay to increase your internet speed

fossil cedar
#

well their getting a fraction of the speed they were getting a month ago

sharp tundra
#

Providers will do that

junior crescent
little osprey
#

its probably gonna cost ad least 200 dollars

sharp tundra
#

What you need to do, is find a deal from another service provider, and tell them that you would like to increase your internet speed, amd when they give you a price that's higher than what the competitor is, tell them you may just go ahead and switch providers, and 9/10 times, they give you a better deal just to keep you as a customer.

#

But if your bound by a contract, then dont

#

Cause they won't care either way

muted patio
sharp tundra
#

Cause they'll still get paid whether you leave or not

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
little osprey
#

k

muted patio
#

Without knowing CPU/Motherboard, I left the ram alone

fossil cedar
#

but still cl18 Cringe

#

ballistix cl16 is same price

muted patio
#

Eh, Intel won't notice as much

fossil cedar
#

true but still

muted patio
#

Intel might need 3200

#

Decide CPU and mobo first, then worry about ram XD

fossil cedar
#

true true

scenic quiver
#

so my pc less than 3 months old is showing RAM failing. I just ran a memtest86 and the test failed in the middle of it citing too many errors to continue. I just checked with MSI that the RAM I had bought is indeed supported by this motherboard. So i ask ye, gods of newegg tech, I need to purchase new ram, and I need reliability for both gaming and sketchup designing which do I go with? I had the corsair vengeance LPX 2x8gb.

muted patio
#

Ram speed? CPU and MB?

scenic quiver
#

3600mhz? cpu; ryzen5 5600x msi mpg b550 gaming plus

muted patio
#

Did you have the ram in the right slots, A2/B2?

#

BIOS is 100% up to date?

scenic quiver
#

that is correct.

#

correct as well. you actually helped me through the bios update vintage 😄

muted patio
#

memory controller is on CPU, BIOS updates can affect ram.

#

Noice!

#

Well poo, bad ram sucks

#

Crucial Ballistix or GSkill Ripjaws 3600C16 ram then

#

Both are good

scenic quiver
#

noted, looking now, thanks vintage

#

i gave you the wrong info vintage. I have in here the gskill ripjaws cl16 memory in this mobo (bad RAM). I was looking at the wrong saved part list i had for this pc >.>

muted patio
#

Hmmmm

#

I have that ram, it's been really good for me.

#

Shame

scenic quiver
#

i had ripjaws in my old PC too, never an issue

muted patio
#

Well

#

There's a new BIOS update

#

as of yesterday

#

XD

#

Might be worth a shot

scenic quiver
#

ugh not unless I ABSOLUTELY have to have it.

muted patio
#

Well, it's that or possibly buy new ram

#

i'd give a free fix a shot first XD

#

Also

#

Now that it's working

#

You can update the BIOS from within the BIOS instead of using flashback

#

Much simpler

scenic quiver
#

oh hmm

muted patio
#

Ye, same flash drive format

#

Go into BIOS

#

Update from there

scenic quiver
#

side note: on msi's site for my mobo, on the RAM infographic they say that 3200mhz is highest supported by JEDEC. while my current ram 3600mhz is supported by A-XMP OC Mode. and I never had those mode "switched on" when I set up my bios the last time. is this an issue?

muted patio
#

It shouldn't be but try XMP.

scenic quiver
#

will try that.

lament oyster
#

First build finally has all of the things done other than a 3080

fossil cedar
#

Nice

lavish hazel
#

I need to find a m-atx motherboard that will work with an i5-6600k LGA1151 chip. How do I know which mother works.

What would be my search criteria?

muted patio
#

Z270 chipset

grim fern
#

2 140mm fans or 3 120mm fans?

muted patio
#

2 140s. Quieter, less rpm

scenic quiver
#

I believe I found my issue. Maybe. So I removed the b2 stick and left the a2 stick in. Booted up my satisfactory game and bsod crashed in about 3 mins. Then removed the a2 stick and put the old b2 slot stick in the a2 slot and have yet to crash 8nside of 20 mins playing. None the less I've got a pair of those ballistix ram on its way.

lavish hazel
#

Ok I got a serious question. I'm upgrading my motherboard, CPU, RAM and PS. Keeping all the same hard drives. When everything is put toger, is there anything that needs to be done so this new setup starts and runs like normal?

#

Hope that made sense

stoic island
#

What type of drive, SATA?

bold vale
#

All right so what's the cheapest I got to spend to run a couple years beyond Assassin's Creed Valhalla at Max graphics. Or at the very least how much should I be spending when I only have a 1080 LED TV it is 55 in though but

#

It didn't work Mr 1111

stoic island
#

hm?

lavish hazel
#

Yes SATa

bold vale
#

I got to get another board and I'm not going to do ddr3's

#

Hoping I can solve this before 7:00 at Best buy or at least Amazon a little bit later

stoic island
#

It should work, might take a bit for first boot up, but new cpu+mobo+ram+psu should be fine

stoic island
bold vale
#

Well I took it to PC shop but he certainly was not as knowledgeable as the other guy that I usually talk to

stoic island
#

fair

bold vale
#

He didn't know what I meant by when I referred to it as jumping the power

stoic island
#

The 4770k (iirc the chip) only supports ddr3 by the way, ddr4 won't fit

grim fern
#

also should i take the challenge of managing cables for these or give up and buy a fan hub

stoic island
#

lol, jumping the pwr switch header

bold vale
#

Right so I have a decision I mean the i7 is great but ddr4 which to choose?

stoic island
bold vale
#

I could also contact freaking what's it called the cooler mattress see if they have anything that I need to fix that part

stoic island
#

Coolermaster for the case?

#

That case does look old

bold vale
#

It's ancient and abused

stoic island
#

yea...

bold vale
#

But gigantic and breathable too

stoic island
#

Eh, the simple solution to most PC things is to just throw more money at it and get a new one :P

bold vale
#

I thought I might let geek squad at Best buy take a look and just see if they have a recommendation too

stoic island
#

Geek squad is interesting..

bold vale
#

But I value you Mr 111

#

Lol

stoic island
#

Generally bad reputation, but I trust the PC shop guy

#

(I have a friend that works at best buy, they're... kinda bad at PCs, I wouldn't trust them with my PC)

bold vale
#

Yeah they're small there's only three or four that work there I think three and I relied on them for years

stoic island
#

And geek squad also generally has a bad rep

#

anyways, pc shop guys are usually nice

bold vale
#

Add one problems that this guy's a little dismissive

#

The other two are wonderful

#

0 boring as hell but wonderful

#

I mean who doesn't laugh at a good scarecrow gets his brain reference

#

All right motherboard it is

stoic island
#

Well, if the current CPU (4770k iirc) still works fine for you, a motherboard swap means you will have to use ddr3 ram.

stoic island
round river
#

are netgear wifi adapters optimized for netgear routers

unreal charm
#

2

#

no await

#

abraham lincoln

round river
#

what?

#

are netgear wifi adapters optimized for netgear routers

#

cuz my adapter wont work with router from isp

unreal charm
#

in short i cannot answer your question

vague oracle
#

I had problems with my net gear adapter when using it with a desktop but that might’ve just been me

jagged ember
#

All adapters should work with any router

vague oracle
#

If you can definitely go with an adapter that plugs into your motherboard

jagged ember
#

They perform better than usb ones for sure

lavish hazel
#

I could use a little direction guys... I did some upgrades. Got everything together. My hope was that when I turn on my computer it would load up and start and look like what I'm use to. But instead it booted to a screen that says MSI click bios 5.
I have no clue what to do from here. Can anyone help?

#

Also the date and time is off. It stating tomorrow's date.

muted patio
#

What all did you change?

lavish hazel
#

Hi vintage. We spoke earlier

#

So I put in a MB, CPU, ram

muted patio
#

Ah

#

MOtherboard change will often bork the Operating System

#

To the point where it won't boot, OS should be reinstalled if you change the motherboard

lavish hazel
#

Ok

#

So I understand what you're saying. I just cant think how to go about doing that.

#

Technical my OS is sitting on my hard drive

#

That is hooked up to this pretty setup that can't do anything.

#

🤦🏽

potent portal
little osprey
#

is i5 4590 a good cpu

#

for $76

halcyon swallow
#

ew

#

you can get the i5 10400 foe 150

#

nvm

lavish hazel
#

@potent portal thanks I'm working on downloading it now. But maybe you can answer something for me.
On my old setup I had my operating system and drivers on one drive, everything else on 2 other drives. When I finally get this thing going should I/or will I have to recreate my drives or what?

#

This is actually my second time putting a PC together. But the first time was in 2016 and I don't remember how I put the OP on it.

#

Scratching my head hard on that. Always considered myself to be smart

potent portal
#

Since you have everything separate already, you've got it easy. All your old data will be where it is now, you just need to tell the OS where it is by changing library locations. It's simple, open explorer, right click a library such as "Downloads", properties, location, find target. Hit ok, confirm the dialog, and it's done.

lavish hazel
#

Ok

#

You good for one more trivia...

My old CPU is a i5-6600k it's an 1151. I want to use it to build a m-atx. How do I know what motherboard works?

muted patio
#

Z270 chipset

#

Any M_ATX motherboard with the Z270 chipset

lavish hazel
#

@muted patio thanks vintage. I asked that question before and you responded z270 but I didn't realize you were answering me. This app was recommended to me from newegg customer service. The guy was right you all are great.

muted patio
#

Welcome!

jagged ember
#

Well it's really vintage that's great

#

As well as the other techies

potent portal
#

We get random people in the middle of the night that help too, it's weird.

little osprey
#

decided to go not very flashy on this one

desert gulch
#

id reccomend this board for that build

#

wifi and bios flashback

#

for a way better value

#

also for a 5600x id try to go for at least 3600 c16 ram if you can

#

also id reccomend going 1tb pilot e, since way better value and youll wish you had 1tb after you fill up 500gb

tough kettle
#

b550m pro-p also has BIOS flashback lol

tight sorrel
tough kettle
#

pro vdh wifi also has a VRM heatsink lol

#

not sure why a fixed IO shield matters

vague oracle
#

Imo a fixed IO shield I just for convenience

jagged ember
#

just attach it to the case before putting in the mobo

stoic island
#

Pro-p also wack price recently

tight sorrel
uncut pelican
#

^^^

#

Sure its more helpful

#

But it really isn't that hard to install one

tough kettle
#

mk

stoic island
#

Design tolerances make them wack

still roostBOT
#
Decks#5664 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tough kettle
stoic island
#

Sad

tough kettle
#

tl;dr of what I was typing- valorant is a terrible benchmark, I realized why professional reviewers don't include it as a tool to compare performance

#

unfortunately I found it out the hard way

#

I did like ~25 benchmarks

stoic island
#

Too much variblility?

tough kettle
#

WAY too much

#

and the problems I had with it are literally endless

#

there's a difference of an average of 70+ FPS between two similar tests

#

I re-did testing at first

#

thinking it was my fault

#

but I realized it isn't

#

it's the game lol

stoic island
#

Lol

autumn wolf
#

lets stop with trying to bypass the word filter

vague oracle
#

Anyone have any good suggestions for a mini itx case?

ionic nacelle
#

Should I buy components over time or save up and buy them all at once?

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
ionic nacelle
#

Found a gpu

#

Thanks for the advice

#

Time to save up for a ryzen 5600x

fossil cedar
#

If you're looking at eBay be careful there is a lot of scams

tight sorrel
stoic island
#

@vague oracle tu150 or nr200

ionic nacelle
#

1080

#

For 200

#

Asked the dude

#

Said it was fine

stoic island
#

make sure it works

ionic nacelle
#

Then sent me some video

stoic island
#

price sounds a bit sus so make sure before you do buy

fossil cedar
#

^

#

1080s are easily selling for 300

ionic nacelle
#

Though im not sure whether or not ill be able to buy it

stoic island
#

They go for like 600$ on ebay so

ionic nacelle
#

Im getting out of school in 6 hours

stoic island
#

try to make sure it works in-person

ionic nacelle
#

Indeed

#

Aaaand, the guy informed he just sold it.

#

😭

#

Who the hell goes to buy a gpu at 8 in the morning???

#

And who agrees to it???

fossil cedar
#

People that don't start work til the afternoon?

hallow glen
#

hello

subtle lake
#

Who can hop in a vc and talk about pc builds

#

lol

stark nymph
#

hello i’m doing a new build today and want to move an m.2 ssd from my old build to the new one. can i just take it out and pop it in to the new one or do i have to reformat it. it only has my steam games on it

earnest olive
#

you can transfer with no issues

#

if it is your boot drive you may have to reinstall windows

#

but if it has nothing but steam games that's fine

stark nymph
#

ok thank you very much 🙏

spiral sentinel
#

Np

ember bone
#

Hello Guys, how are you all? I am trying to build an affordable personal Pc, which will include big Ram and Gpu, anybody got product ideas for me please let me know.

subtle lake
#

I’m looking for help with an upcoming build but I still need a couple of parts and I am still trying to figure out what would be the best for my pc and also thinking about looks as well

#

I have a Ryzen 9 5950x and a ASRock > B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax mobo and an Enermax aquafusion AIO but I don't really know the brand that well and haven't heard much about it so I just assume it isn't that good but I want to use what I have but if this aio isnt a good one then i'm going to sell it and get a different one but I'm going for looks too

little osprey
#

Would it be wise to buy a 1050 ti on eBay for around $120-200

hallow glen
little osprey
#

Thank

stoic island
#

@ember bone Well, what's the budget?

ember bone
stoic island
#

Heh that's a good bit above what I imagined with "affordable personal pc"

ember bone
hallow glen
stoic island
#

@ember bone what will it be used for?

ember bone
hallow glen
#

yeah it is fun

#

and for that budget it should give you more

stoic island
#

It's nice when it works

ember bone
stoic island
#

Hm, video editing or like photoshop kind of production, or like blender render for game graphics...?

hallow glen
#

mr 1111 do u think that a 3080 could fit in this build? idk the market price rn

stoic island
#

Definitely

ripe wedge
#

oop this is build chat sorry

hallow glen
#

ok

ember bone
stoic island
#

I'll make a list in a moment

#

Hm, is there any particular software you use? Like AutoCAD?

ember bone
#

I work usually on Linux “run”

stoic island
#

Different software pit different loads on different components. It just gives me a better idea what component will need to be focused upon.

#

Hm

stoic island
#

Depends on which kind, eth and bitcoin and such are gpu accelerated, there are also some weird ones that are cpu accel and such.

ember bone
stoic island
#

Eth is currently a lot more profitable for gpu mining as far as I know right now soo

#

Not many people still do btc unless they have a big operation

ember bone
#

So I’m trying to build one more energy efficient and is faster than the most expensive ones or realistically something close to oh

stoic island
#

Eth for ethereum btw

ember bone
#

Ethereum is always hot bit coin is only for now

ember bone
rich helm
#

Is that mocking a techie BanHammer ?

stoic island
#

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ember bone
rich helm
#

I have no idea what that means

#

But techie is a role given to the people most knowledgeable and most helpful people on the server

#

Also Bitcoin has been very consistently mined and ethereum is the hot topic right now

ember bone
#

Yes Mr1111 is really the man on here bro

#

GO ETH!!!

stoic island
#

anyways back to the PC bits

#

So are you planning to mine on it?

ember bone
#

Or if you have something better I’m all ears

stoic island
#

You can run either windows or Linux or any other OS on most computers

round stream
#

hi

#

is the EK EK aio bad

potent portal
#

EK-AIO is one of the best for the price

round stream
#

there was a dude saying it was bad here

stoic island
#

who

round stream
#

logimte

#

or someting

stoic island
#

who

rich helm
stoic island
#

@silver fulcrum y

silver fulcrum
#

?

stoic island
#

what's wrong with ek aio

silver fulcrum
#

overprice

#

use arctic aio

rich helm
#

Bruh it’s similarly priced

silver fulcrum
#

performs better for 20 bucks cheap

robust lake
#

If he wants rgb tho

silver fulcrum
rich helm
#

😐

stoic island
#

bruh

muted patio
#

Ek is $120 for rgb thats cheap

stoic island
#

20$ is overprice

#

It's rgb

round stream
#

ok so the ek is good?

stoic island
#

Fan swap on the freezer ii to get rgb fans is more expensive

round stream
#

pls

robust lake
#

Change psu

round stream
#

ok to which one

stoic island
#

and yea p-gm blows up in some situations

#

literally blows up

round stream
#

...

rich helm
silver fulcrum
#

the psu is good

stoic island
silver fulcrum
#

it is tier b

stoic island
#

the cap blew up

#

@silver fulcrum ap-gm is fine, p-gm is not

muted patio
#

No pgm

silver fulcrum
#

oh

muted patio
#

Tier e

round stream
#

oh crap

rich helm
#

Also get sn750 instead of pilot e 500gb

round stream
#

is there a under 160$ motherboard for i7 10700f with wifi?

rich helm
#

Slightly cheaper

subtle lake
#

I’m looking for help with an upcoming build but I still need a couple of parts and I am still trying to figure out what would be the best for my pc and also thinking about looks as well

stoic island
#

b560 boards might

#

I'm going to go back to making a 2k$ list for that one guy on linux that wanted to mine..?

subtle lake
#

I have a Ryzen 9 5950x and a ASRock > B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax mobo and an Enermax aquafusion AIO but I don't really know the brand that well and haven't heard much about it so I just assume it isn't that good but I want to use what I have but if this aio isnt a good one then i'm going to sell it and get a different one but I'm going for looks too

fossil cedar
round stream
#

ok

ember bone
#

These zoom classes bro

ember bone
stoic island
#

uh what

#

what does that have anything to do with hash rate

#

it's about more GPUs

#

but you can get more GPUs by getting pcie daughterboards if the motherboard doesn't have enough slots

ember bone
#

“Taking notes”

rich helm
#

Right ?

stoic island
#

it's another board with slots on it

ember bone
#

More slots for gpu

#

But won’t the cpu life expectancy will decrease

stoic island
#

expansion cards, whatever

#

uh what

ember bone
#

The life expectancy of processor

#

If you add lot of gpu with daughter boards and mother board

stoic island
#

that doesn't do anything to the life expectancy of the processor

ember bone
#

Oh ok I just wanted to know that.

stoic island
#

maybe more storage if you needed

#

maybe more ram if you needed

#

maybe different case if you want

ember bone
#

Ok bet let me check that out real quick

stoic island
#

maybe bigger psu if you want to run more GPUs to mine

ember bone
#

You seems very found of GPUs in this case what are your thoughts on Ant miners

stoic island
#

asic's?

ember bone
#

Yes sir

stoic island
#

generally just annoying

robust lake
#

They cost like 3k

stoic island
#

expensive, long ROI, power hungry, and no resale value after usage

ember bone
#

Yes they are expensive

#

😶

robust lake
#

You can sell your 3080 after a year if mining isnt efficent anymore

#

Or just use it for gaming

stoic island
#

unless you have a big operation that can get a lot of them and power them all cheap, and are certain you will be able to run for a while, it's not worth it imo

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Consumer GPUs are (if at msrp) Cheaper, quicker ROI, while still power hungry, to a lesser extent, and a large market that will buy it if you choose to sell it

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roi for return on investment

ember bone
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You guys are forgetting the jet engine sound

stoic island
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?

robust lake
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I cant even hear my pc when mining

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Fans on 65%

ember bone
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From the cooling fans

stoic island
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on an asic?

ember bone
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Yes

stoic island
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yea those are loud too

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and no control over the fans in most cases

ember bone
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My friend basement sound like the docking yard for 747’s

stoic island
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lol

ember bone
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So gpu’s the way?

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Bet

stoic island
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For consumers

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ASICs probably start making sense once you're spending like 200k on asic miners lol

ember bone
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What are your thoughts on buying preowned ASICS ?

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And 200k lol maybe when I’m rich I’ll make all y’all my business partners

stoic island
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I personally don't mine and don't really get into it, but I assume preowned ASICs are probably in poor conditions

ember bone
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I see, I can’t imagine why you won’t want to mind you are great with this

stoic island
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Eh, maybe one day, too annoying right now to acquire the equipment to do so lel

ember bone
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el indeed And can they do something to ASICS so they end up getting the

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Data

stoic island
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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asics might also improve in the future, who knows

ember bone
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I have an idea 💡 hmu in dm brother

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About the gpu

ember bone
round stream
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can someone make me a 1.3k$ budget amd or intel build

fossil cedar
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Yeah 1 sec, gaming i assume?

round stream
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ye

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thx

fossil cedar
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Nb

round stream
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holdup 3060ti is 400

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would this be better

fossil cedar
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No

vagrant olive
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the only $400 3060 ti youll find is founders edition from bb, some aibs are around $500, newegg is easily the most expensive with their shuffles

desert gulch
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What’s wrong with the build only thing they should do is get sumthing like what @desert gulch suggested

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I mean for gaming I wouldn't rly go 10700 tbh

fossil cedar
desert gulch
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I'd rather a 11400

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Ye

fossil cedar
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Also no way 3060 ti $400

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And no need to water cool