building-and-recc-chat

[gentle crane]

i just saw a build

of a box

pretty based

[ancient wraith]

my pc is 59c idle

bruhh

[stoic island]

Idle temps don't matter smh

[jagged ember]

Only load matters

[ancient wraith]

ok

ive been playing warzone for like an hour and its 69c

[little leaf]

thats fine

[desert gulch]

That's fine lol

[desert gulch]

"an hour"

[ancient wraith]

lol i didnt know how long

[ripe wedge]

sometimes discord bugs

[ancient wraith]

lol

[ripe wedge]

discord may have done an update in the background

and restarted

69C is perfectly fine tho

[ancient wraith]

my gpu is80c

[desert gulch]

Junction?

[ripe wedge]

its prolly fine

id only be worried if it was like 95c

[ancient wraith]

my pc is so loud bro

[ripe wedge]

or hitting 90

[desert gulch]

Fans to cool pc = noise

[ancient wraith]

fax

it used too be quiet

[ripe wedge]

well if u want ur gpu a bit cooler you could cap ur fps

maybe lower settings a bit

[desert gulch]

If it was a 5700 and it hit 95c main, it would be shut down by now

[tough kettle]

80 is actually a bit high of for what you are doing, what GPU do you have?

[desert gulch]

Since junc temp around 109 shuts down 5700xts

[desert gulch]

I'm thinking it could be junc temp

[ancient wraith]

2060 ventus

[tough kettle]

still which GPU

[ancient wraith]

2060 ventus

[ripe wedge]

ventus

oof

ventus cards especially 2000 series had bad coolers

[tough kettle]

nVidia GPUs have a temperature junction at 84c If I recall

and throttle extremely hard beyond that

those are definitely undesirable temperatures

what you are getting

@ancient wraith what is your fan profile like?

[ancient wraith]

afterburner

[ripe wedge]

you run it in Fahrenheit

[ancient wraith]

srry

i dont use afterburner much

[ripe wedge]

its ok, you are forgiven

[ancient wraith]

thanks

anything i should do

too fix temps

[ripe wedge]

more fans?

[ancient wraith]

i have all da slots filled i need a new case

[tranquil marsh]

Can someone help me figure out a quick thing? I'm getting a concerning error in my part picker line up

[autumn wolf]

?

[tranquil marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

It says my motherboard required a "rocket lake" CPU, or it will disable the m.2 drive

I just ordered these parts, should I cancel it?

Only part picker is saying that from what I can see

[autumn wolf]

you didnt put in your list, just the link to pcpp

[tranquil marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nn4fgt

right right

[autumn wolf]

11th gen is rocket lake, the 10th gen is comet lake. its for pcie 4.0 iirc

10th doesnt support it i dont think

[potent portal]

Yep

[ripe wedge]

pcie gen 4 isnt worth the price atm

[tranquil marsh]

So this motherboard is too advanced for my 10th

[ripe wedge]

nah

that mobo is fine

price too high tho

[potent portal]

Even if it fully disabled the slot with the 10th gen CPU there's another slot

[tranquil marsh]

For the m.2?

[potent portal]

Yes, it's fine

[tranquil marsh]

Oh cool, so I just use, like slot #2 or whatever?

It's just he first one that is disabled

[ripe wedge]

shouldnt be disabled

[tranquil marsh]

Alright thanks!

[ripe wedge]

oh wait

yeah one slot is disabled

[tranquil marsh]

How can you tell, other than part picker?

[ripe wedge]

probably will say reserved for 11th gen or something on it

lemme look at the actual board

[tranquil marsh]

Alright, does everything else check out, like the memory etc? I'm not sure about the size of the cooler. I hope it fits

First time assembling

[ripe wedge]

I personally dont like corsair vengeance ram

id recommend crucial ballistix 3600C16

should be like $93 for a 2x8 kit

[tranquil marsh]

As long as it doesn't explode... at this point I already placed the order

[ripe wedge]

16gb is fine for now but eventually you will probably want to upgrade to 32gb

did ya already order that ram?

[tranquil marsh]

Yep everything ordered

a few hours ago

[ripe wedge]

ah I wouldnt get that ram

[tranquil marsh]

What's it's issue?

[ripe wedge]

a bit overpriced for 3200mhz

and also it isnt a great kit

[tranquil marsh]

Hmm

Well thanks, I'll report back on Friday

[ripe wedge]

👍

[gloomy crystal]

https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nrb9ZZ

How's my list? I want to play games and do 3d modelling

my budget is 55k inr

i don't wanna do anything too big atm. im just a beginner which is why i got a lower end one. models of small objects and such

thanks for the suggestion tho

[brave nimbus]

I wanted to build.. but ended up buying and ABS system.. it's ok price and runs ok but I can't access bthe resizable bar because ABS has modified the MOBO ID so now I CANT just get the firmware from the manufacturer (gigabyte) like a normal build. Anyone have any suggestions. Is it possible to change the ID back?

[fossil cedar]

Ehh I'm pretty sure abs use out of the box hardware, but you need to update your bios and update your graphics cards bios to run resizable bar, and it's not supported on all boards and all gpus

[vagrant mica]

I'm planning on making this build, along with a 3070/80 if I ever find one. Any suggestions?

[autumn wolf]

pilot e instead of that samsung drive and 16gb of ram instead of 32gb unless you actually need the 32gb and windows is free unless you added it just to have it there

and a different aio

honestly

dont know much of ek but an ek aio would be good

cheaper too iirc

[fossil cedar]

^ ek aio cheaper and better and has rgb

If you dont want rgb get an arctic liquid freezer ii for like 120$ or something it's really good

[quasi hemlock]

Do you guys suggest getting a second ssd or a cpu water cooler as a first upgrade

[autumn wolf]

depends on what you need more

and what you have now

[quasi hemlock]

I have a 1tb ssd, wraith cooler that came with my Ryzen 5 5600x, and 4 case fans

I have a garbage GPU and ROG Strix B540 wifi

That’s about it

[sturdy stratus]

Joefis, if your budget is high enough and you dont want to oc your ryzen 5 i would split the difference and get a decent air cooler and an ssd. Having a better cooler will keep temps down and improve longevity of the system, and the extra storage space might be needed for bigger projects

[austere wagon]

May I ask why a man has a Ryzen 3 and a 3070

Bottlenecking be like

[stoic island]

What

[umbral junco]

guys it would be really nice if you could help me out because i have saved up about £1100 gbp to get a pc but i have no clue what to buy and what items are avalable to me so if someone could DM me that would be really nice because i need help.

[fossil cedar]

Water cooling is overkill for a 5600x a decent air cooler like scythe fuma or mugen or if you want to go absolutely overkill nhd15 would keep the 5600x nice and very cool

[quasi hemlock]

Ok, thanks

[stoic island]

Welllll

I wouldn't go d15

[fossil cedar]

Or a be quiet dark rock pro 4 instead of d15

[stoic island]

Ram wack clearance

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[stoic island]

U12a good option

D15s

Fuma 2

[fossil cedar]

But cheaper than u12a

[stoic island]

Mugen 5 rev b

[muted patio]

u12A $100 tho

may as well go AIO XD

[stoic island]

Not in other regions

Iirc uk?

[fossil cedar]

Still cheaper than u12a

[stoic island]

Eh, close nuff

90 and 80

[fossil cedar]

Pcpp uk has gona whack both have dipped

But d15 better

[stoic island]

Not for ram

Nor endurance

:p

[fossil cedar]

Fair but they probably just have 2x8gb

[stoic island]

Nf-a12x25's are too good

[stoic island]

My 2x16 got blocked by my d15

[fossil cedar]

What how

[stoic island]

The fan covers 2-3 slots depending on the board

[fossil cedar]

Danm

[stoic island]

So yea

[fossil cedar]

Touche

[stoic island]

Anyways

[fossil cedar]

Rip pcpp uk

[stoic island]

Well, UK GPU market is also kind of wack atm

@fossil cedar not compatible with your list then

[fossil cedar]

Yep currys have had some drops but the prices wont fit in their budget

[fossil cedar]

I went in through pick individual part tho

[stoic island]

Wot list is this

[fossil cedar]

Went through like this

[stoic island]

Is it some itx list

[umbral junco]

wdum cos i would probs get my stuff from the US shipped to the UK

[muted patio]

What about import VAT?

[fossil cedar]

Last list i had was a matx i believe

[muted patio]

Wouldn't that take away from your budget if you did that?

[stoic island]

I can find d15 and such on there

[fossil cedar]

Lol no import tax

[stoic island]

US might be even worse tbh

[fossil cedar]

Also easier to get from currys than us

[fossil cedar]

Weird

[stoic island]

It's just gpu wack

[stoic island]

So I'm guessing you have compatibility filter on

[umbral junco]

ik GPUs are quite limited atm but where do u suggest buying them from

[stoic island]

Just go into filters and turn it off

[fossil cedar]

Mb but idk why it wouldn't work with b560 hdv matx and i went through individual part not through list

[fossil cedar]

Currys

[stoic island]

For UK, these guys have it sometimes too
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/

[umbral junco]

can i actually get them from there

[umbral junco]

thank you

[fossil cedar]

Yes

I got my 3070 from currys.ie and they drop way more often on currys uk

[umbral junco]

thank you i will have a look

[fossil cedar]

Np

[little osprey]

How is this build for 1440p: r5 5600x, RTX 3070, MSI b550 pro, 16gb 3200mhz, pilot-e 500gb ssd, seagate barracuda 2tb Hdd, anted earthwatts pro 650w psu

[umbral junco]

is there a way to know how often they drop or is it random

[fossil cedar]

Google stock informer uk

[umbral junco]

thank you so much i really appreciate your help

[fossil cedar]

I'd go 1tb pilot e if possible in budget, and what cl rating is your ram? Cl16

[fossil cedar]

Np

[fossil cedar]

Pop the parts you have into pcpartpicker so we know exactly what parts btw

[stoic island]

Can prob swap for 3600c16 ram, need a case too.

[fossil cedar]

^ ballistix probs has a 3600cl16 for like 10 15 more than 3200

[muted patio]

Eh, most 3600 is $105 now sadly

Prices went up :/

[stoic island]

Ya, but 3200 is 80$ mostly lol

@muted patio it's the same question from 2 months ago, 50$ 3200c16 or 75$ 3600c16

Except both went up by like 30$

[fossil cedar]

:/ sad

[muted patio]

Ye

Ram prices going up

sad

[stoic island]

Sad

[muted patio]

Ballistix 105

[fossil cedar]

Ram still okay in uk tho must just be NA

[muted patio]

Gskill 105

oof

[fossil cedar]

Ballistix 3200 cl16 was like 60£

For 2x8

[desert gulch]

i almost bought a set of 3600 c18 2x16 sticks of team ram for like 105 bucks

that was like a few months ago lol

crazy how now a 16 gig kit is that price

and yes, that was before i knew of team's issues with ram

that mr1 later explained

[full inlet]

Im buying my ram for 50

(3200)

[stoic island]

well

it's just bargain bin stuff

roll the dice to see if you get rekt or you get decent ram

[fossil cedar]

think their buying vengence lpx from a friend iirc

[winged lion]

At my microcenter I’ll be able to get 3600 cl16 Corsair vengeance

[stoic island]

I was responding to Ryzen about team

[winged lion]

So rgb 😎

[stoic island]

and the same statement applies to vengeance lpx lol

vegeance lpx is also bargain bin for lower bins

[fossil cedar]

ohh lol my b

[fossil cedar]

typhoon burner says my lpx is b die but 🤷‍♀️

[muted patio]

Samsung B?

There are other B dies

[fossil cedar]

think it said samsung

[spiral sentinel]

Whats a good psu? For this build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WQyCnL

[frank vapor]

700w

[little osprey]

hey, is it possible to get help with a pc im having issues with?

[frank vapor]

ok

what do you need help w

[little osprey]

so, one of my pcs its having audio issues yesterday 2 of the front fans quit working properly also if you drag on the windows screen it turns black

[frank vapor]

so you have 2 pcs?

[little osprey]

its my gfs

[frank vapor]

ahh alright

maybe your fans are clogged with dist?

dust

[little osprey]

checked they are clean

[frank vapor]

maybe your fans don't get enoyugh energy to spin

[little osprey]

just doesnt make since

[fossil cedar]

you need to be specific about which ones are good

[little osprey]

it has been working fine and then all the sudden issues just show up

[frank vapor]

??

[little osprey]

my job is to repair electronics and im confused

[frank vapor]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-supernova-750-ga-220-ga-0750-x1-750w/p/1HU-00J7-004V2?item=1HU-00J7-004V2&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-power+supplies-_-1HU-00J7-004V2&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmcWDBhCOARIsALgJ2QcVktlsGVsvEoC08bqXV89IR4zprqW_ctS_xaMLwk0vbPkSFf46zTgaAtYGEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

this isnt bads

bad

[fossil cedar]

Sorry hit enter by mistake without finishing my point, not all 700w psus are good and they asked for a good one

[muted patio]

For that price get a Phanteks AMP 750

$109 but a tad overkill

[frank vapor]

let me check it out

[muted patio]

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-80PLUS-Supply-Modular-Certified/dp/B07W5RSX99

https://www.newegg.com/phanteks-amp-series-ph-p750g-us01-750w/p/N82E16817987010

[fossil cedar]

^ or a enermax i cant remember the name ffs i just know what it looks like lol

[frank vapor]

yea you could def use that

[fossil cedar]

A bit more of this list needs to be tweaked btw and do you need integrated graphics while waiting for gpu? If not you can save 25 or so and get an f chip

[frank vapor]

im getting a igpu until shortage ends

if i can grab one from microcenter i get lucky ig

[fossil cedar]

nvm it already has one

yeah i misread

the arctic liquid freezer 2 way better aio

[little osprey]

I am losing my mind

[fossil cedar]

also do you need a board with wifi

[frank vapor]

just find it if you lost it

[fossil cedar]

omg the power supply not good 💀 and is 100$

okay

you dont need aio

tho its way overkill

youd be better off with an id cooling se 224xt or vertroo v5

[little osprey]

liquid cooling isnt worth the price

get gigabyte P750GM 😂😂

[fossil cedar]

you should shopping for what you have now

[frank vapor]

b3vbnvnbvn

oops sorry replacing keycaps

[fossil cedar]

and if you upgrade cpu youll need to change mobo

[little osprey]

10600k isnt worth

[fossil cedar]

5600x is 2x the price of your current cpu not worth

[little osprey]

and 11400 is very close to 5600 on gaming

[fossil cedar]

its close enough

not really worth it

[little osprey]

10700k

[fossil cedar]

yeah ^

[little osprey]

its under 300 if you can find good deal

[fossil cedar]

do you live near a micro center?

damm then 11400 best option

11600k and 10600k not worth because you need to get a z490 or z590 motherboard to overclock anyway

[little osprey]

yep

b560 is also option

[fossil cedar]

because its 2x the times of 11400 not at micro center, if you lived near micro center 10700k would be like 230

[little osprey]

yeah theres nice z490s around 150-200

[fossil cedar]

but thats a lot more than their budget

and if you want to put 11th gen on z490 you flash bios

[little osprey]

10700k with z490 is good option

[fossil cedar]

doing it rn

[fossil cedar]

for 300 for a 10700 nah

[little osprey]

11700k is for 400

[fossil cedar]

what where??? its 310 on pcpp

[little osprey]

yeah

[frank vapor]

\

[little osprey]

actually 11400 is surprised me with perform as 5600 🤔

[fossil cedar]

ohh well 11700k waste of sand

[frank vapor]

s

[fossil cedar]

silicon is printed sand basically

[frank vapor]

6

[fossil cedar]

im making imporvements rn

[little osprey]

if you just ganing 11400 is perfect option

its still would enough

[earnest olive]

locked i5s run wonderfully on a $30 gammaxx/id-cooling se-224-xt

[muted patio]

Stop

With the spam

[earnest olive]

anything higher is overkill

[little osprey]

photo editing isnt too heavy process

[frank vapor]

no ban

my rank :0

[muted patio]

Then unplug KB

[frank vapor]

i forgot

[earnest olive]

or you can just

close discord

[frank vapor]

nah rather not yk

[little osprey]

lmao

rip

[desert gulch]

*then

[frank vapor]

*Then

[desert gulch]

xD

[frank vapor]

its a joke

[desert gulch]

Nah jk

[little osprey]

[fossil cedar]

@rugged salmon https://pcpartpicker.com/list/38zDdD

[earnest olive]

i see id-cooling se-224-xt

i approve

[fossil cedar]

thanks

[frank vapor]

didnt seem like it dipstick

[fossil cedar]

they wanted to put an msi aio on it for 90$ 💀

[earnest olive]

lol

[desert gulch]

I'd go 3600 c16 for 11th but that works too

[fossil cedar]

ehhhh

[earnest olive]

they were asking if they should custom loop it in general chat

💀

[fossil cedar]

💀

[desert gulch]

11th gen likes faster ram than 10th does

[earnest olive]

imagine building a $500 custom loop for a locked i5

[muted patio]

I have a 3070, what about it?

[fossil cedar]

okay well ill see the price diff

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[fossil cedar]

same

[desert gulch]

If it's not too big of diff

It's worth

[earnest olive]

is this fan hub really necessary

[little osprey]

I just wanna buy z590 mobo couse theyre look too damn pretty

[desert gulch]

If big price diff not worth

[earnest olive]

3-pack fans should come with a pwm splitter

yeah

top review says the fans come with daisy chain

fan hub is not needed

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4vNCnL acc use this one instaed

the one i have is better performance

i litterally got a 3070 in there and allowed it to be up to 700$

[earnest olive]

rgb splitter is not needed either

[desert gulch]

It is a little bit

[earnest olive]

don't expect to get a 3060ti for $450

lol

[desert gulch]

Lol

[fossil cedar]

it is worth the diff also gl getting a 3060 ti for 450

[little osprey]

you should get any card you can find lol

[earnest olive]

each 3-pack of fans needs 1 header

i'm running 9 argb things off of 2 headers

8 fans and 1 water block

[spiral sentinel]

Thanks

[earnest olive]

the icue 220t rgb has its own hub included

the 3 fans you're adding have daisy chain

so you can just chain the connectors together and power all 3 off of one header

yes

so you run the corsair fans off the proprietary garbage

[little osprey]

theres dangerous section in that tier list that makes me laugh lol

[earnest olive]

and daisy chain the 3 fans into one motherboard header

neither the splitter neither the fan hub are needed

lol ok have fun not needing it

[fossil cedar]

🤦‍♀️

[earnest olive]

some people can't be reasoned with

it's fine

[fossil cedar]

they wanted not even good aio on i5 i cri

[earnest olive]

it is not that hard to plug fans into each other

they literally come with a socket to plug in another fan

[fossil cedar]

accordign to who?

bruhhhhhhhhhhh

[earnest olive]

they also come with their own controller

[muted patio]

wat

no lol

[earnest olive]

it shows in the product pages

[fossil cedar]

you ever heard of marketing

[earnest olive]

so you actually don't need a single rgb header

[desert gulch]

Nope

No need for a hub either

Lol

[fossil cedar]

all things will say its best you need to look at 3rd party reviews, even cpu manufacterres cherry pic their data

[earnest olive]

don't ask for help if you reject it

thanks for wasting everyone's time

now get out

[fossil cedar]

stick with the one i sent you

[desert gulch]

You ask for help then don't take it

[fossil cedar]

this ^^^^^^

and good luck getting a 3060 ti for 450

[earnest olive]

lmao

[desert gulch]

Then don't ask for help

If you think your list is perfect

And you don't want it changed

Then don't ask us to refine it lol

[muted patio]

And the conversation is over

[desert gulch]

Boom

Just saying you rejected any change that was made

[earnest olive]

lol i just went on r/hardwareswap and saw someone traded a 560ti build for a beer

[fossil cedar]

every change

[muted patio]

Obv a troll, let's move on now

[desert gulch]

Yup

[earnest olive]

imagine not making your preferences clear and then getting mad at people for not reading your mind

[fossil cedar]

lol 😂

[desert gulch]

Lol

[cursive wharf]

Yall need to calm down

[muted patio]

conversation is over. Move along now please

[cursive wharf]

tbf seems like everyone here is overreacting

[muted patio]

Pretty much

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

[muted patio]

Don't

Just move on

[desert gulch]

Also if a mod tell you to stop

Stop

They arent a force to be reckoned with

[muted patio]

You don't like their list so buy yours and be happy.

[fossil cedar]

vintage is very scary XD

[muted patio]

No, rule #1

[desert gulch]

Very

[muted patio]

Buy your PC and be happy.

[desert gulch]

What's this port called again?

[earnest olive]

DVI

[muted patio]

DVI

[desert gulch]

Ight

[earnest olive]

it was a misclick

[fossil cedar]

dvi-I i belive

[earnest olive]

there is a dumb invite to server thing when you right click someone

[muted patio]

I've done that before too LMAO

[earnest olive]

i've done it like 6 times by accident

[cursive wharf]

I did it to Mr1111 before

[earnest olive]

needs a confirm button for sure

[muted patio]

aBSOLUTELY

[desert gulch]

Uwu please let me in ur server

Lol

[earnest olive]

it wasn't even one of my servers

[desert gulch]

Misclick plz

[fossil cedar]

be careful tho, theres 2 different dvi connecters, div-i and dvi-d

[earnest olive]

it was just some random server for a game i haven't played in like a year

[desert gulch]

Lol

[muted patio]

Funny, that's what I invited someone to XD

I think it was windshields TBH

[fossil cedar]

ohh ryzen theres a few more acc heres the tpyes

[muted patio]

Meant to click DM and did that instead

[earnest olive]

DVI is a mess i'm glad it's dead

[fossil cedar]

yeah same

at least VGA was one port XD

[earnest olive]

hdmi so nice

displayport has some shenanigans going on with cable versions that's a bit annoying

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

[muted patio]

Like 1.2/1.4

[desert gulch]

I like dp most

[muted patio]

NOt as bad as HDMI tho

[earnest olive]

hdmi just works and i love it

[desert gulch]

I like the locking bit

Keeps it from wiggling loose

[earnest olive]

then again

[desert gulch]

Or from someone stealing ur dp cable lol

[fossil cedar]

Dp is

[earnest olive]

i've never tried to drive a display higher than 1080p144 over hdmi

are hdmi cables also subject to version shenanigans

[muted patio]

Big time

[fossil cedar]

Dp has higher display rates

[muted patio]

1.4a, 1.4b, 2.0, 2.1 it's all over the place

Even worse than DP

[earnest olive]

i'm doing 1440p165 over DP 1.4 right now

my old DP cable worked with my 1080p144 monitor but this one was locked to 60hz

needed a new cable

[fossil cedar]

Idek know what version of dp im running but 144hz 1080p so not exactly hard to drive now although it's a bit old so wouldn't have been able to do with hdmi, at least with my old gpu

[earnest olive]

that's not what you got muted for

[muted patio]

I said. Move. On.

We get it, you don't like the lists. Buy yours and be happy. Thanks.

[earnest olive]

you got muted for continuing to throw a toddler tantrum after being told to stop like 8 times

[fossil cedar]

Could you not be snarky about it and just listen to the mods

[cursive wharf]

Guys, miscommunication happens, stop being so harsh about it

both parties are still being bad about this

[desert gulch]

Oof they banned

[muted patio]

Ya'll need to chill out also.

Don't aggravate a situation

[spiral sentinel]

Does the ssd and hhd fit the mobo?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CPDWTJ

Ik the hhd fits

[fossil cedar]

Yes, but I'd recommend getting a pilot e, or sn750 instead

[desert gulch]

pilot e trash value for 500gb

[desert gulch]

also keep in mind adata has downgraded that ssd like 5 times

while keeping the original speed ratings

[spiral sentinel]

So whats the storage on it?

[desert gulch]

same storage, just slower

[spiral sentinel]

Will the cpu cooler fit the case also?

[spiral sentinel]

For the ssd or hhd?

[desert gulch]

ssd

[desert gulch]

and yes, itt will

[spiral sentinel]

What ssd could i get for around the same price thats faster?

[desert gulch]

do you rly need 2.5tb of total space?

a rly good option is a good fast 1tb m.2 nvme

if you dont need 2.5tb total

pilot e 1tb super great for the pricec

[spiral sentinel]

Im going to have a lot videos

[desert gulch]

ohh ok

[spiral sentinel]

Youtube

[desert gulch]

well the sn750 500gb is pretty pog for like 60 bucks

goes on sale all the time

[spiral sentinel]

Ok, same speed

Speed

[desert gulch]

should be when on sale

id say its faster

[spiral sentinel]

Ok

Thanks

[desert gulch]

ye

[spiral sentinel]

And to ask again the cpu cooler fits the case

[desert gulch]

yes it does

[spiral sentinel]

Ok

[fossil cedar]

Is pilot e not 60 for 500gb? Sn750 is at least i guess

[spiral sentinel]

And the ssd u recommend is compatible with the mobo?

[desert gulch]

68

[desert gulch]

yea it is

[fossil cedar]

Oof okay

[stoic island]

it's key m

the mobo supports key m

yay

[paper willow]

how can you check which version your motherboard is running?

[stoic island]

Probably even easier ways to do it, but with CPUz, on the Mainboard tab, it tells you bios version.

[little osprey]

I'm fairly knowledgeable with computers; however, I can't seem to figure this issue out that myself and a few others have been experiencing recently. When we download things/use the network (game launchers or even internet speed tests), there's a chance that the whole pc will start stuttering in regards to the mouse movement, keyboard inputs, rgb lighting, wallpaper engine desktops, everything just starts to stutter/lag. It seems to have happened after a windows update. The first time I experienced this was upgrading from Windows 1909 to 20H2, but I figured it just didn't install properly and after attempts to fix it, I ended up just wiping my hard drive and reinstalling Windows from scratch. This was fine for a few months until I saw a cumulative update and figured I'd install it which has now caused the issue to come back. I have tried uninstalling and then reinstalling network drivers, trying different compatible network drivers, updating bios, chipset drivers, basically all motherboard drivers. I've tried looking into HPET, which seemed to be already disabled. I've tried soft reinstalling windows. I've tried turning off all background applications except for anti virus although the others I know having this problem aren't using an anti virus. This issue also seems to be with both intel and amd platforms. Running Latencymon does show that there seems to be an issue with the network driver, but as I said, I uninstalled and reinstalled which did not seem to fix it. I know a complete wipe of the hard drive and reinstall of Windows fixed the problem last time, but that's not fixing the root of the problem and that's not something I can practically do every time I update windows. I also know that the hard drives aren't the cause as it happens across multiple hard drives. Specs are an i9- 9900k, MSI Carbon Pro AC, 3200mhz 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra. Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

[stoic island]

@little osprey the RGB comment seems interesting, is that in relation to peripheral rgb (Say on your mouse), or rgb in the computer?

[little osprey]

both, although I don't think the motherboard's rgb acts up, but I'd have to take a closer look. I think it's just everything with icue which includes case fans, radiator fans, gpu backplate, ram, aio cooler, and keyboard. I have the mouse set to a static color and it's MSI rather than corsair but due to the static color I obviously can't tell if it stutters. The stuttering with the rgb lights is due to the effect of color changing that starts to stutter. For instance, the fans have a white light that goes around in a circle and it clearly isn't a smooth animation when the stuttering problem starts

[stoic island]

It does seem to be some sort of software issue, do you know if there are any other common factors between your case and other incidents?

And also, is this with wifi or lan, or both?

[little osprey]

We're both using msi motherboards and are both running the samsung 970 plus nvme for boot drive. There's also a few softwares that we both use such as voicemeter banana but that should be irreverent due to us trying to download things with all other programs turned off. He has several other computers all with msi motherboards and they had the same issue. He uses amd, i'm on intel. With that said, there was one other person who responded to one of my reddit posts and they had an asus board I believe, or at least it wasn't MSI. We're both using lan, I should probably test it over wifi though, but that would take at least a week to test it, as it seems like recent windows updates have caused it to happen less frequently, but it still usually comes back.

[stoic island]

Which exact board (what chipset and name) are you using?

I'm thinking of the possibility of the specific lan controller having some faults

[earnest olive]

what is your buffer size in voicemeeter

[little osprey]

I'm using the MSI Z390 Carbon Pro AC, although I can't remember exactly what he was running, but I think he's on a B550

[earnest olive]

I don't think a 9900K should be struggling with any buffer size but just curious

[little osprey]

I have it set to 256

[earnest olive]

my friend's 4770K would stutter like crazy with buffer sizes too small

[little osprey]

I'll also note that I've had this issue even with overclocks disabled, including xmp for the hell of it and the issue still persisted

[stoic island]

It seems to be using an Intel I219-V controller, though Intel generally has the reputation for better stability. (Over realtek)

[earnest olive]

i219-v shouldn't have an issue

i225-v is known to have issues beyond 1 gigabit

[little osprey]

Are you familiar with any reliable driver installation programs? I know there's DDU for fully removing graphics drivers. Would Revo Uninstaller work? I'm curious if when I uninstall the network driver, it might not be fully uninstalling and leaving the problem files behind

[earnest olive]

revo uninstaller is fantastic

can't say i've ever heard of rgb stuttering before

can you record that? i am curious to see it lol

[stoic island]

Well, iCue is software, so...
Would be interesting to see though.

[earnest olive]

ah

icue the rgb software that thinks using 10% cpu is acceptable

love it

i am going to desync all my rgb and set my cpu to 800mhz and see if it stutters

nope

didn't skip a beat

discord is now lagging though lol

[little osprey]

I can try installing a few games to try and get it to trigger and record it, like I said it doesn't always happen though but next time it does I can tag you two. I've been putting of installing metro exodus so I'll do that now, see what happens

[ripe wedge]

hah my 2.5gb intel ethernet port works only with one driver really well

[earnest olive]

i have realtek ethernet

[little osprey]

I've also heard of people having high cpu usage with icue, although I typically see mine between .5% and 2%

[earnest olive]

lemme test icue i just got a new cpu

i have it installed for changing keyboard hardware profiles but with autostart disabled

[little osprey]

another thing to note is I find it really interesting that the cpu usage doesn't get affected at all when the stuttering happens, everything looks normal, even event view doesn't show anything of concern

[earnest olive]

oh wow that's amazing

i have 2 effects active

and icue is already gobbling 3% of a 5600X

with the icue service killed off

and boosting to 4.8ghz

i added another effect now it's at 7%

i gotta say it looks pretty cool though

[little osprey]

interesting, I have multiple effects between ram, fans, keybaord, gpu backplate, and an aio and icue is at like .3% with the icue service around 1%

[earnest olive]

the only icue accessory i have is a keyboard

i have one spiral rainbow, one static color, and 1 rain right now

and it is absolutely murdering cpu already

[stoic island]

Software is software, things are just wacky

Maybe it hates AMD and loves Intel

[earnest olive]

that is completely possible

[little osprey]

so far downloading metro exodus hasn't caused any stuttering

[earnest olive]

woohoo i added a fourth effect and saw it hit 12% cpu usage

icue is now taking more cpu usage than genshin impact

[stoic island]

lol

[earnest olive]

my keyboard looks absolutely ridiculous now

[stoic island]

Keychron time

[little osprey]

my favorite for the keyboard is a set color but then two different colors for the "type lighting" effect

[earnest olive]

lol i'm running out of effects that can stack on top of each other

my keyboard has successfully turned into abstract painting

[rich helm]

Run bad apple on keyboard

[earnest olive]

probably possible if you made a custom firmware

use per-key rgb as a very low resolution screen

xd

[rich helm]

I’ve seen a video, someone did it lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gmwn2wYpjOQ

@earnest olive

[turbid flume]

join vc

[earnest olive]

i am not surprised that it has been done

[ripe wedge]

what the heck

my personal favorite is the one done in task manager

[little osprey]

also in that video I sent you two, the snow on wall paper engine starts stuttering too, granted the video doesn't have stutter in it but when it does, that's another thing that does have an issue

the most annoying aspect of this is that sometimes the stuttering happens, sometimes it doesn't, I wish it was more consistent and repeatable

[stoic island]

The rgb on the ram seems to be getting pretty funky

[ripe wedge]

wallpaper engine caused massive stuttering on my gaming laptop lol

occasionally

but on my desktop no issues

[little osprey]

the rgb on the ram isn't as smooth as I wish it was but that's unfortunately normal

I think that's the rain effect set to medium speed

what is cheapest cpu + mobo that I can get that can play games at decent fps

[stoic island]

What games, what resolution, and what do you call decent fps?

[little osprey]

60fps

30fps or 60fps

depends on game

[stoic island]

Video from @little osprey

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rqZrCz

10100F shouldn't have issues with 60 fps

[little osprey]

I am upgrading from a ddr3 build

fm2+ socket

[desert gulch]

Huge upgrade

[little osprey]

yes

I need to eliminate bottleneck

[earnest olive]

you need new ram then

[little osprey]

yes

8GB minimum

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZ39LP

[stoic island]

is good

[little osprey]

yes

[celest horizon]

is that an anime backplate, lol

[ripe wedge]

just rgb it looks like

with custom design

[little osprey]

it's just a design I found on google

Also the name makes more sense once I paint or powder coat the psu shroud I have in there as I cut out a mountain ridge pattern on it. Need to move the stat display since it's being covered right now

[little osprey]

I'm going to try to get a video of the stuttering that I'm experiencing uploaded soon, but another note is that I have no issues playing games online or even watching or streaming videos. Only happens when downloading files/games and it's happened a few times with internet speed tests. This doesn't make sense to me though as if it's lan related, I would think it would happen regardless of the type of internet traffic but that's out of my range of knowledge so I very well could be wrong

[verbal quarry]

Can anyone help me find a 5600x under 326 after tax?

And sadly I can't use microcenter

[muted patio]

MSRP is 299 so....IDK your tax rate?

[verbal quarry]

7%

[desert gulch]

cheapest youll find after tax is 321

if its at msrp

or move to oregon

where theres no sales tax

[full inlet]

or texas

[full inlet]

even microcenter raised their prices (just today)

[verbal quarry]

Closest place I can get at msrp is best buy

Even then they won't do pick up or delivery because of where I live

[fossil cedar]

Doesn't texas hav 8% iirc

[little osprey]

8 rtx 3070s

485 mh/s

[fossil cedar]

Try amd.com when they drop and newegg shuffle possibly

[full inlet]

texas has no sales tax, but relatively high property taxes

[fossil cedar]

Why tho, poor gpus only used for Blockchain maths and not gaming math 😢

[little osprey]

Awww

Sorry

[full inlet]

yep 😦

[little osprey]

Moonies are my fav :(

[obsidian wigeon]

well least btc load is less damaging than gaming lmao

cause it runs like that 24/7

[fossil cedar]

https://www.google.com/search?q=texas+sales+tax&oq=texas+sales+tax&aqs=chrome..69i57.3605j0j7&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[obsidian wigeon]

gaming you do varying stuff

and heat cycle happens

physics

[full inlet]

lol

[little osprey]

I mean all my cards run under 45°c at full load

So they will be ok

[obsidian wigeon]

should be

[full inlet]

but the poor gpus like gaming

not mining

[fossil cedar]

But that's your core temps not mem

[little osprey]

I know lol

Thanks though

[obsidian wigeon]

gaming and mining is same thing to a gpu

not like it could know it's gaming or nah

[fossil cedar]

Well not really uses a lot less core for mining

And more mem

[obsidian wigeon]

well true

[little osprey]

Yep^

[fossil cedar]

But it doesn't know which one yes

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah that was my point

[little osprey]

I mean all my gpus have souls so idk

Even so, not all crypto is memory intensive for mining, some are more than others

[fossil cedar]

Btw what clocks are you running on your 3070s?

[little osprey]

Well the cards vary a bit

[fossil cedar]

I'm sure there's some that are mb, but etheruem and most other alt coins are mem intensive

[little osprey]

My fav cards are the strix, and the msi gaming trios, those things are like ice

[fossil cedar]

Well roughly whats your clocks

[little osprey]

So I have power drawn back on all cards to 55, mems range 1000-1200. Fans 90%, temp limit 70

Pulling 1100 watts

[fossil cedar]

Hmm okay

[little osprey]

Yep

[fossil cedar]

You could probs run mem higher tbh

[little osprey]

I could

But stability

[muted patio]

Ya, my 3070 is 125 W going 60 MH/s

[little osprey]

Right.. which 3070?

[muted patio]

EVGA XC3 ultra

[fossil cedar]

Same but I'm using more power, need to tune it down a little and im only using a gigabyte gaming oc

[little osprey]

My msi ventus x3's my gigabyte, my asus dual fan, all run under 135W. My strix though.. 156W

[fossil cedar]

But usually get 61.5mhs

[little osprey]

156 is the highest pulling card, but that's prob because the strix is literally the size of my leg lol

[muted patio]

STRIX has a 270W VBIOS

So 55% will be higher power than the others

[little osprey]

Yep, I can push maybe 5% more out of my rigs, but I purposely cut back a tiny bit for temps and stability. I get around 30k shares before a rejection

Yep, exactly vintage

[verbal quarry]

I was looking at that but am I able to subscribe to a news letter or something?

[still roost]

KingRL#9605 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Lol

Anyways.. what I said was... my main goal is stability and cool AF temps. So I can leave my crib without sweating

[fossil cedar]

Just find out their drop times and check then, is your best bet, any email notifications will probs be delayed

[verbal quarry]

Probably

But with the prices I'm seeing at other places I might just buy 5800x

[fossil cedar]

I mean my core stays below 50 at like 85% fans and 65% on power so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[little osprey]

I could achieve those results as well with those settings :) I'm just weird and literally try to freeze things

Most of the time my cards are avging around 36-42°c. I said 40-45° because that's the highest they get

I mean mem chips can run up to 95°c. But damage occurs at those temps, so I'm wayyyyy under

[fossil cedar]

I usually run at 100% and stay at 38-40 but sometimes turn it down a bit if im in a voice call or something

Yeah and running mine in a case

At night i do run it around 70 or 75% speed tho so i dont blow my ears out when i sleep XD

And it gets to usually 55-59c by when i wake up

So i think it's fine

[sacred turtle]

Hi I have a gtx 1650 but warzone is runing at 30fps with massive frame dips into the low 20s on low setings and top half of the screen is jumping frames on other games. Anyone know why??

[fossil cedar]

What cpu you got?

[sacred turtle]

I3 9100f

[floral gulch]

The greatest disappointment

[verbal quarry]

Any coolers you guys would recommend for a 5800x?

[fossil cedar]

Hmm that should give more, do you have at least 8gb ram?

[sacred turtle]

Yup in dual chanel at 3200

[fossil cedar]

Scythe fuma and mugen, nhu12a/d15 but d15 you gotta watch out for ram clearance apparently, if you want liquid arctic liquid ii

[floral gulch]

Any cooler AIO works usually 2 fans should be fine they all do the same performance wise the issue is fans you place on it. Higher pressure fans will cool the fins better.

[fossil cedar]

Hmm, is the gpu getting enough power?

[fossil cedar]

This is false they are not all same

[sacred turtle]

Yeah its a 6 pin version and i have 400w

[floral gulch]

A radiator is a radiator as long as water is moved from A to B yes. Its about dispersion of heat.

[muted patio]

Eh, there's more to it than that

[fossil cedar]

Hmm weird but im going to bed now so hope someone else is able to help you

[muted patio]

Pump, fin density, radiator material type

etc

[fossil cedar]

^

[muted patio]

Cold plate fin density as well

tubing size

[fossil cedar]

Not just the fans

[floral gulch]

If you have higher air flow over the fins you can get the same cooling from poor fin density. Though its not as optimal, the fans do play more of a major roll in the dispersing of heat.

[little osprey]

Patokav I shot you a friend request

Does anyone else here mine? I'm trying to make some friends that share this hobby with me but it's kinda hard to do with covid

[floral gulch]

Minimum though you would want a two fan radiator a single doesnt have enough surface area for cooling to reach room temp, where a 3 fan radiator can end up with diminished results in some cases the coolant will be room temp around the passing of the second fan depending on the processor.

[sacred turtle]

Hi I have a gtx 1650 8gb ram and a i3 9100f but warzone is runing at 30fps with massive frame dips into the low 20s on low setings and top half of the screen is jumping frames on other games. Anyone know why??

[floral gulch]

Also pumps with rgb add to the overall heat of the unit so looks vs performance.

[obsidian wigeon]

I kinda plan to mine

[muted patio]

wat

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't think pumps heats up from just leds

[floral gulch]

Anything that uses energy produces heat

[muted patio]

You should review some AIO tests from Gamers Nexus.

[floral gulch]

Or Jaytwocents

[tough gorge]

anyone know if it's possible to have a splitter that allows 3 case fans to be plugged into the same fan header, and if said adapters come in the dell 5 pin style?

[muted patio]

Eh, Jayz doesn't do the best tests TBH. If what you said was true, RGB AIO's wouldn't be the top coolers

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[verbal quarry]

Can you tell me if the rosewill aio that got as a gift would work?

[icy quail]

anyone know some decent prebuilts for 400-500 i could recommend for a friend

[desert gulch]

Rn that's hard to find

I'd go console at that price range

[icy quail]

figured

mans already has a ps5

he just plays pc games on a damn tablet

[desert gulch]

Oof

Ps5 will outperform any 500 pc he can get

[floral gulch]

Uh dont know your cpu, but from what I know Roswell has had some electrical fire issues for the 240. Also dont know the type of aio your specifying for dementions.

[verbal quarry]

Looking to possibly use it for 5800x and i have the 240

[little osprey]

deepcool and corsair have some cool aio

[verbal quarry]

I'm not trying to break $200

[hallow mesa]

wrong server

[floral gulch]

If the AIO isnt one of the faulty ones should be fine, for the 7 series cpu and keep it in the 60's range for loads, though if your not OC your probably not going to have any issues with heat. With proper tube placement. The only issue I have with Roswell is the tubes are stiffer making tube management harder.

[little osprey]

I mean arctic freezer 2 would be enough for 5800 ig

[patent ocean]

[hallow mesa]

[verbal quarry]

How can I tell if it's faulty?

[floral gulch]

If you smell smoke while its running its faulty.

[verbal quarry]

Thank you 😂

[drowsy thorn]

So I'm having issues with low GPU usage. Getting 80-100 fps on warzone and multi-player on COD on a 34" 1440 UW. Anyone have any suggestions on what I may need to do to get better performance? I feel like I should be getting better performance without OC. Specs are as follows...

Asus x570 gaming plus wifi
-Ryzen 5950x
-Evga 2080 ftw3 ultra
-32 GB corsair dominator platinum 4000mhz clocked at 3600 mhz

• Corsair cm600 PSU (next upgrade)

[desert gulch]

what settings at 1440p?

also do you mean corsair cx600m?

corsair has no cm series

[drowsy thorn]

Setting all almost maxed, and 120fps

I mean 120hrz

[floral gulch]

Yeah the only other way is if you have a tester and test the chip within the pump and I wouldnt do that unless you knew what you were doing with components.

[desert gulch]

sounds about right

tbh

for that settings and res

[drowsy thorn]

And yes cx600m

[desert gulch]

id say upgrade psu

for sure

[drowsy thorn]

Definitely, going tomorrow to grab a 850w. Just put the 3050x in yesterday

[desert gulch]

what 850w?

[drowsy thorn]

3950x

[desert gulch]

revo df is a really good 850

130 usd too

[drowsy thorn]

Not sure yet. I like rgb so was thinking thermal take

But I'm open to suggestions

[desert gulch]

im guessing your case has a power supply shroud?

[drowsy thorn]

H510 elite

[desert gulch]

actually

[drowsy thorn]

Fan rgbs would show

[desert gulch]

what do temps look like in there?

h510 gets pretty toasty

[drowsy thorn]

CPU usually 70-75
GPU usually 75 or so

[desert gulch]

hmmm

ig thats prolly fine then

[drowsy thorn]

It does, I'm considering o11 dynamic for more air flow

[desert gulch]

yeah

[drowsy thorn]

I'm also getting screen tearing.

[desert gulch]

so for a normal 850w psu

https://www.amazon.com/Enermax-Revolution-Certified-Supply-ERF850EWT/dp/B07P7XLVJG

id reccomend this one highly

great price for an a tier psu

[drowsy thorn]

I was wondering about speed and clock settings for the ram

I'll definitely check it out

[desert gulch]

yea

[drowsy thorn]

Is there a specific clock speed and timing that's best for the 3950?

And why does it show low usage?

[covert crypt]

is it possible to mix ram sizes? for example two Tridents 2x 8gb + two Tridents 2 x16gb, both are the same CAS latency just different memory sizes

[drowsy thorn]

No its 2x16 4000mhz

[verbal quarry]

Hey can you send me the site that you found the specs on?

[desert gulch]

Ye

Just remember ram will only run at same speed as slowest stick

And make sure they are same voltage

[little osprey]

You plan on mining? Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

Ish

Gonna start with maybe single 3060Ti

[little osprey]

Literally go on AMAZON and search for pc fan splitter, I got like 6 cause my rig has like 25 fans lol

Nice bro do you have the 3060ti yet

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh my btc got back up

Well nope

[drowsy thorn]

This may sound stupid, how do I make sure they are all the same voltage?

[desert gulch]

How many fans per port do you do?

And how many amps per header?

[desert gulch]

Should be rated for "rated speed" at "rated voltage"

[little osprey]

You guys are over thinking lol

[desert gulch]

You should be fine

Just link both the kits and I'll check them out for you

[little osprey]

So pc fans hardly take any power. I have 4 fans running off 1, 4 pin port. The way I do it is by buying a fan controller off Amazon. Like the 15$ one. It'll allow you to link like 4-5 seperate fans. And that's all running on 1 connection to my MB

[still roost]

KingRL#9605 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

Woops lol

[still roost]

KingRL#9605 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

KingRL#9605 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[covert crypt]

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232491 planning to run the 2 x 8gb and pair it with the 2 x 16gb version

[desert gulch]

Yeah if it's same version just dif capacity it's fine

[covert crypt]

would i be able to run the silver/white version of that ram too?

[desert gulch]

If it's the same thing just dif color ye

[desert gulch]

also dont pay that much for that kit

[covert crypt]

im getting the 2x8gb for $160 cad from someone

so i was thinking of getting either 2x 16gb or another 2x8gb from newegg

[desert gulch]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232906?Item=N82E16820232906&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.pcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-mh_vJeK95dBfxCvmxzqq2A

id just go with this

if you wont need 48gb

its on sale too

[covert crypt]

hm. guess ill decide if i want to get the 2x16gb by tomorrow then

lol

[desert gulch]

lol

[marsh parcel]

WOW I am bummed right now lol. I was asleep during the buying window.

How does the 3060 compare to the 2070 anyway?

[desert gulch]

like in pure gaming 2070 better

maybe in ray tracing and stuff a 3060 is better, since it has newer rtx stuff

[marsh parcel]

That's fair

Wish I caught it in time. Since I didn't have the money I would have let someone else buy them.

[desert gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sf3jWpJuQ8

heres a quick vid

that kinda shows the trend of 2070 just pulling ahead in gaming

[fierce hull]

seagate barrcuda or wd blue

[desert gulch]

wd blue

[fierce hull]

thought as might so

[gloomy crystal]

Hi, RN My plan is to get an i5 10400f and a gtx 1050ti but i was wondering whether i should just get a better cpu with integrated graphics now and get a good gpu later?

[obsidian wigeon]

Nope

There's no better cpu than 10400f that's avilable with an igpu that's remotely decent

[little osprey]

Rip

[earnest olive]

false

i5-11500 and higher has UHD 750 which is not that far behind ryzen 5 3400g in graphics

AMD is also looking to release ryzen 7 5700G possibly to DIY

@gloomy crystal the 1050ti still pulls far ahead of any integrated graphics right now, but if you mostly play esports then integrated graphics will do alright

3400g/5700g compares to gt 1030

UHD 750 a little weaker

intel may have the weaker graphics here but their advantage is stronger cpu than the 3400g for when you upgrade, and better availability

[obsidian wigeon]

Ah well

But isn't 11500 a bit expensive?

Says 192-202 suggested customer price

Seems well worth the price at least

Overall it is still better deal than a 3600

[earnest olive]

well yes but it's a slightly upgraded i5-11400 that can actually run games on the igpu

well worth the price

absolutely smashes a 3600 of course lol

the i5-11400 gaming perf is already competitive with 5600x

the biggest advantage the 3600 has here is the better upgrade path, but few people upgrade cpus often enough for that to matter

and it's really not worth paying over $200 for a 3600 in 2021

I'd only recommend a 3600 in 2021 if it was less than $120 with stock cooler included

since you can pick up a 10400f brand new for 110, $25 gammaxx cooler, and cheap b560 board

[lunar bramble]

Looking to build a new machine what could people recommend for a Ryzen 7 build?

[timber acorn]

budget?

[lunar bramble]

I mean Don’t want to go to expensive because this will be my first build on my own

[timber acorn]

Personally I have:
Ryzen 7 3700X
MSI B450-A PRO MAX
BALLISTIX SPORT 8GBx2
Pioneer 1TB NVMe
MSI VENTUS OC RTX 2060
Corsair RM750

Everything was 2nd hand though except the PSU, cost me about £800.

P.S. Not a typo, I don't have a case as I'm in my student accommodation and have no space atm. Just a mobo with some standoffs 💀

Should run most games at High / Ultra 60fps+ @1080p (Most demanding game I have is Witcher 3 and play on Ultra with 60fps constantly, maybe a deep to 58)

[lunar bramble]

Want something that can play DayZ, COD, Squad and stream at the same time

[stoic island]

Btw I'm guessing it'll be bounds beyond 3400g, since 4650g and such were quite a bit better than vega 11

[timber acorn]

Hmm, don't really stream so wouldn't know much about that. But apparently NVIDIAs shadowplay might help?

[stoic island]

Shadow play is for recording

NVENC is for streaming

[timber acorn]

Ahh, thanks!

[stoic island]

NVENC is great

[fossil cedar]

Tbh wouldn't recommend this to people as you can't rely on second hand prices, especially if they're in different country and there's better options out now also gl getting a 2060 into that build under £800 nowadays

[timber acorn]

Oh no, I wasn't recommending. Just saying the specs work for 1080p gaming at Ultra. I just got lucky after 5 months of searching.

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[twin spruce]

@ashen totem sweet case, but out of curiosity why did you go with such a large case when your build could fit into something much smaller?

[fossil cedar]

1 possiblity they went with larger case is better airflow

[severe axle]

if they wanted airflow, probably would've gotten a different case and fans

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i just looked at how massive the case was, i thought the were just an itx fanboy or something

[cold sorrel]

I'm just over here excited I'll finally get to use the case I bought last year

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[fossil cedar]

What are you waiting dor buy the rest of your parttrsss

[severe axle]

thats not an itx motherboard though

[fringe lagoon]

Anyone have experience with an o11d Mini?

[cold sorrel]

Remember, I bought my case before the Great GPU shortage hit. I had every intention of building last summer. But then I listened to the advice to wait for the launch of the 30 series...

[earnest olive]

remember when 2080ti owners were rushing to sell for 500

lmaooo

[cold sorrel]

Situation has finally changed because now I have an EVGA 3060 due to arrive tomorrow

[fossil cedar]

Yes ik but they said they could've put the stuff in an itx mobo i hadn't looked at the parts and itx mobos are readily available at okay prices rn

[fossil cedar]

Phat f

[fossil cedar]

Pog

[desert gulch]

I got a 2080ti for like just over 400 usd when that happened lol

[fossil cedar]

Damm lucky

[desert gulch]

Ye

I put it in parents pc

Since my 5700xt looks soooo nice I'm my build

And yes I'm aware of the big perf difference

But whatever

[visual oak]

Im trying to set up a fan curve, i have a i5 10600k and a artic freezer duo, can someone give me good points?

[little osprey]

how can I tell if the video card is PCI_E3 for this motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-carbon-wifi/p/N82E16813144322
I'm trying to find a video card for a reasonable price since all the good cards for PCI Express 4.0 x16 slots are sold out and I know there's alot of Express 3.0 x16 out there but I'm getting lost with the E3 part

[muted patio]

It honestly doesnt matter. Just pick the gpu you want

[rich helm]

Any pcie can run on any pcie slot

Gen 4 card can run on gen 3, gen 3 can run on gen 4

[little osprey]

wait, gen 3 can run on the newer slots?

I thought it had to be the matching thing

[balmy patio]

yee, pcie is backwards nd forwards compatible

[little osprey]

ooh ok so they are like USB ports, with 3.2 being backward and will accept 2.0 usb device, just won't get the speed, right?

[rich helm]

Yep

[balmy patio]

lmaoaoa

[short otter]

Hi, I made a pc build list and want to make sure all parts in list will be compatible.

[balmy patio]

share it

[short otter]

https://newegg.io/d0b1254

[balmy patio]

hmm, it is all compatible, though some parts aren't really the best for their price

is it fine if i make another list based on your budget?

[fossil cedar]

You're parents game? Or just for a flex XD

[short otter]

I welcome any suggestions. This computer will be a starter for game proggraming and photogrammetry.

[balmy patio]

ahh i see

what's the budget you're aiming for?

[short otter]

$1250.00

[balmy patio]

ight sounds good

lemme make a list for ya real quick

[short otter]

Thanks a lot!!!!

[balmy patio]

is there anything you specifically want in your system? such as integrated wifi, 32gb of ram, some specific case design/build aesthetic, etc

[short otter]

I need wifi, blue tooth, 32gb ram 8core processor and video card with cuda cores.

[balmy patio]

ight

[balmy patio]

any specifics for storage? or should i just go with the generic 500gb nvme and 2tb hdd

[full inlet]

what's the best price/performance build for an $800 budget?

[short otter]

From what I read, I need processor cores for video game development and cuda cores and ram for photogrammetry

[desert gulch]

Flight sim and stuff

So it's pretty gpu intensive

[short otter]

For storage need ssd for operating system and atleast 1tb for program storage on platter.

yes gpu intense

[balmy patio]

so just mass storage for the hdd?

actually hold on, i've got something so far https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RFPwfP , does it meet your needs?

[short otter]

need hdd atleast 1tb

os for ssd

would like to keep it amd

[balmy patio]

ok

[full inlet]

It's for cad/school and some gaming

[balmy patio]

i'll make an amd list then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8FPwfP - the amd list

and is there a reason you have for going amd over intel?

[short otter]

tech guy I talk to said amd was better.