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eh?
Someone was asking about running 20 bluestacks VM's and the hardware required
I posited at least 2 cores and 4 GB ram per VM to run that and the game they wanted to play on it.
If it was a viable option but clearly not at that price point
oke, so now you are telling him to go matx?
Sounds decent
I might go with 8GB or so just to be safe though. Depends on the budget
Well i never told them to go atx, only if it was a viable option which it clearly wasnt but that's okay so matx is fine, can we stop debating about this now thanks
ok sure
11900k rip off
big L
XD
not for some ppl imo
for overclockers its kinda the best out there
Yeah
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
What....
am4 to lga1200 adapter
u can do that?
also theres a way cooler x570
ye
send link
Btw don't buy cpu based on motherboard
269 π
ik
Or if you want good looks nzxt b550 is clean
nzxt b550 is ugly imo
ye
looks like dog crap
honestly
White
yes
And an overkill mobo
Why sn750?
this mobo over kill?
idk
The pilot e is cheaper
Yeah you only need a decent b550 board
That's because you said you liked
Yeah i can get you cheaper one with wifi too
ye
cheaper with wifi
can do
cuz the mobo kinda op
i mean
i like the look
not the price
π
cuz its on sale rn
usually 300
dont mean to be picky but
that mobo rlly ugly
lul
is there any good looking white mobo?
Nzxt
eh
There ya go
thx
im prolly gonna buy this whole system this summer
when im actually able to get the cpu and gpu
in stock
Nice
Gpu you still gonna have to scavenge for
yeah
Buy gpu before everything else hardest to find
Although you could always build a stick an interim card in
Not on the newegg shuffle
ive already tried to get an evga 3070 evga 3080 asus 3070 and 3060 and 3080
I'm moving my PC building plans ahead because I finally won a Newegg shuffle and got to order an EVGA 3060.
Why only evga and Asus tho
Congrats
only type of cards im interested in
evga ftw3
Because they aren't marked up as ridiculously high I imagine
and asus rog strix
nice
Why tho, have a look at msi or gigabyte?
Or something
dont really like x trio
and gigabyte white edition card is alr
but its same price as evga ftw3
so
You could always just Paint card white if you want
Fair
since evga doesnt wanna make a white ftw3 card π
so im gonna spraypaint the evga ftw3
i just bought I7-10700K
Nice
with a 10700k
yeah its OVERKILL
i still didnt buy gpu
im waiting rtx 3070 in stock
AND A 10700K
Just make sure you take off backplate and cooler off of board before doing
Jesus
nice
my current progress
Nice parts
bro u could be saving the money u spent on z590 and 64gb ram and get z490 and 16gb or 32gb or ram and could get a 3080...
i still need 2 more parts sadly
yeah will do techsource made a video doing it so i have a slight tutorial
nah bro i still have 600$ left lol
Why not 16 or 32gb ram with 10850k or something?
too late?
even a 980 pro 2tb is cheaper lol
Oh christ that's 418 dollars
LOL
Reeeee
That ssd is overpriced, get a 2tb pilot e or sn750 for half that
just get like 2 tb sn850
That's stupid overpriced yeah
or something cheaper
i canceled the order
...
ye already told them tahat
Pilot e, sn750, mp34
i got 2 ssds
bruh
Any one of those three NVME are good
just buy M.2 NVMe
we saw lul
sorry, just thought they were better
Nope
its giving better performance than an SSD
600 for a 3070 ππππ
so search m.2 nvme?
ofc im getting my salary next freaking MONTH
search Samsung 970 Pro
oki
Was giving them alternatives
thats the price of a 3070 fe with tax lol
so gl
he could cancel to z590 and 64gb ram
oh
I
my god best buy had rtx 3070 instock and it out of stock very fast
easily get any 3080
No one saw my NVME reccomendations
idk if those will fit in the slots in my case
M.2 is just a form factor btw, sata is still ssd and diff between nvme and sata is a lot smaller than you think
Get whatever is cheaper
m.2 are alot faster depends which m.2
They go into the top m.2 slots, usually
hrm
But check mobo manual for more details
Sometimes one m.2 slot shares the sata bandwidth
still confused why this guy is getting a z590 with a 10700k
Pretty meh value pilot e or sn750 better value
Ree
i feel like crying rn
confused what storage to get now
M.2 for boot drive
bro im doing designing, doing rendering, or using multiple applications at once
u need 64gb for that
Once again m.2 is the form factor, you can have a sata m.2, nvme is the interface just like sata
u could do that on 32
no
no
wh
No m.2 is the interface name
not an interface
NVME is the actual drive
man
NVMe or SATA is an interface
Yep
SATA m.2's also exist
Sata m.2 oof
im using PCIE Gen 4
Depends on the workload, if it's heavy 64gb ram kinda tame
Just get 2.5" drive at that point
No diff for gpu
bro
mann
Gen4 useless for basically everyone
i got pcie gen4 issue so yeah its dumb
Gen 4 only good for speeeedy drives
mans litterly said z590 with 11700k is a good combo
Even then lol
u must be joking
Dude no
Even then meh
I was saying NVME and hdd storage combo
the motherboard legit costs more than the cpi
ok good
bro i litterally designing, doing rendering, or using multiple applications at once and i also need to open many chrome tabs 
Nothing wrong with that
what storage do i get
there is but he was talking bout sum else
Depends on what z590
to put in those slots
well atleast i dont freaking buy the I7-11700k
;-;
right but i was told not to
Sag ssds are fine
π
Not even the right chipset?
sag?
Ssds won't sag they hardly weigh anything
Ha
You can get z590s at like 150 iirc
i also enable XMP and im not telling my warranty provider im using it so they dont void my warranty π
xmp wont void warranty iirc
Whatever is cheapest, the crucial along the lines of mxb500 r sum is pretty decent or kingston a200
@little osprey be like
Nope
Stop looking up high to low and spamming chat with stupid links pls n thx
yes
i looked up expensive mobo π§
Cause it's running the ram out of spec technically
bro how is my mobo expensive when the price is litterally $239.99
Hardly, motherboard manufacturers say rated for 3200mhz or whatever on their product page
just joke π
Oh
imagine bottlenecking EPYC processor with RTX 3070
Well idk I ain't telling them jack
If something breaks I'm only saying it stopped working
They don't need to know I dipped my ram in ln2 or something
That's because it's their server line, gets it's ass kicked by epic but server stuff =profitable
I had xeon cpu way before and it was really good tbh lol it was e5 2670v2 or something
so yeah funny story
my friend bought an 144HZ monitor
but
he is using Nvidia GT710
so dumb
F
Ehhhh yeah ^
he is using 4X2 8gb DDR 4 RAM STICK 2666mhz
You mean 8gb total?
what cpu and mobo?
thats what 4x2 means ye
Tbh i ran single stick 8gb for a while
Ik just making sure they didn't mistype the 2 r sum
ASUS TUF Gaming B450M-Plus II this motherboard actually hmm kind of loser motherboard and the cpu is AMD Ryzen 3 3100
oof
Nothing wrong with tuf
bro
And 3100 is decent if just for gaming/web browsing
Yea?
yea but his gpu is big loser
prolly just a temp one
Yeah but mobo and cpu okay
i suggest him to upgrade to 1080TI or 1660 Super
not now
Might want some better ram but nothing wrong with the motherboard
he wont find one at a decent price rn
yea
i dont know but after watching linus tech tips video about Nvidia pretend to care about gamer im starting to think bitcoin miner destroying gamer hobby
Or can be used for interim that's better than 710 or 1030
im gonna wait for 12th gen intel cpu amd is expensive right now
Yeah nvidia just wants to make ewaste cards
yes its end up on land fill 
Ehhhhh yes but 12th gen wont be cheaper than 11th gen
yea but core 19-11900K performance is trash the I9-10900K give way more better performance
If you're budgetish, 140 for a 10400 or 180 for 11400
Well yeah but if you're giving out about amd pricing your not buying i9 anyway unless it's a 10850k for round 350
yes itll be early adopters fee since itll be on lga1700
When you compare AMD vs Intel chips, AMD CPUs are great at multitasking, while Intel CPUs accomplish single-thread tasks better. Tasks that use multiple cores include photo and video editing programs, 3D modeling and rendering programs, graphics-heavy games, and demanding productivity apps.
And ddr5
yea
Nope
ryzen kinda beats intel in gaming
Amd beats intel in single core
so unless you oc, go ryzen
stock speeds, overclocked intel can easily beat ryzen
yes
im really scare about Water cooling
Well yes but if you're paying for a 11600k just spend the extra 50 or so for a 5600x
just afraid the pump blocked and explode 
No other unlocked 11th gen worth really
yeah especially considering mobo is cheaper for ryzen too
^
Don't be they usually have 6 year warrantys r sum
well i would love to use AMD THREADRIPPER 3990X but the price tho 
But you need a z board to oc
4000$ cpu
Just get a 5950x then 650 or something
16 cores
nah i would get the 5900X
Fair
ye
just dont buy wrong intel cpu
intel have locked and unlocked cpu
like the K version not F version
thats not what f is
rtx 2080ti still overprice this day 
f means "no integrated graphics"
^
wait isnt it locked
k is what means its unlocked
No letter is locked
non k means its locked
Overclockable but no integrated graphics
so the k version has integrated gpu?
Unlocked integrated graphics
yes
F means no gpu
EVERYTHING except F has integrated graphics
So no f means gpu
i litterally though F is locked
Nope
F is locked...
That's just no letter or no Letter but f
so this explain why the K version is expensive than F version
F version is usually cheaper because no gpu
ye the intel UHD 620
uhd 630 on those 10th gen
For example i5 10400 -stock cpu
I5 10400f no igpu
I5 10400kf unlocked no igpu
I5 10400k unlocked igpu
oof sorry i thought its 620 maybe im blind
ye 10th gen is 630 iirc
11500+ is stronk igpu
yes
im stupid that i thought the acer pc at my local store is using intel core 9th or 10 th gen cpu it was using 8TH GEN i7 processor
ye id rather wait for new amd cpus that come out
that have a more pog igpu
if thats what you are going for
im going to upgrade my pc in 2022
im waiting for the ddr5 come out 
is 1000W psu is overkill?
for an ASUS TUF GAMING GEFORCE RTX 3070 oc
very
Overkill but
It's not a problem if you have wads of cash
People tend to think a 1000 watt power supply will destroy their 750 watt computer because it's too much power
rly? im just thinking for value its not the best
None of my usb are working my hdmi is not working either. Does anyone know why?
Whats a budget mobo for the 10400f for gaming
I'll probably never go over 450w, so I'll only ever be using up to like 550w psus
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/QNHDdD
How is this build? i'll be playing light games, doing game development, 3d modelling and video editing
My budget is 55k inr
yea
im also looking for some blue extension cables so if anyone knows companies that sell them in india
get 2 8gb sticks instead of 1 16 gb
one issue I see is thet the mobo u have doesnt support m.2
just has sata
so you will have to get a sata ssd or a different mobo
i got 1 16gb because my mobo only has 2 dimm slots so if i want to upgrade to 32 gigs i have to buy different memory instead of getting another one of the same memory
dual channel always better
also I would strongly recommend getting a better mobo if this is the case
also Deepcool RβF120 Blue β3X comes with a splitter in the box if I remember correctly
get a 3pack one wait lemme link
is this a good mobo: Gigabyte B460M GAMING HD Intel B460
why are you looking at only matx boards?
im not
look for a larger board then imo
more features
like a board without an M after it
like B460M is matx
the only boards that fit in my budget are matx
if i want to get this i have to make something cheaper
k
also this the absolute cheapest I would go for a mobo
that one
also the b470 chipset supports only upto 2933mhz ram
I love the mobos that are bare bones when it comes to aesthetics like that one
with this mobo you can remove the wifi adapter as well as this one has it built in
Still got nice features but none of the fashion junk that makes it premium
I like my boards aesthetic a lot ngl
one of the reasons I bought it
there is this one too but no wifi built in
Fair
can u help me find cheap 16 gig ram
in india
the only place i can get something for less than 5k are really ghetto sites
of course
ok i found one
Look at indian Pc part picker @gloomy crystal
indian pcpartpicker has extremely high prices
newegg is good in us but not in india
It has prices from other sites that pc part picker trusts, they aren't there own store lol
why b460
and newegg is a good site but because of import tax it's way more expensive than other indian sites
i meant import
he chose the chipset
also a very tight budget
if cpu is a non k
b560 legit is just as cheap lol
75 bucks even
usd
again guy chose b460
i didn't actually
I dont like suggesting too much
it was in ur pcpartpicker list
also each and every board you sent after
you can reccomend a change lol
he may not have known ram speed was limited
I personally dont like changing someones chipset or cpu
I told him
How's this: Gigabyte B560M DS3H Motherboard
its good
if someone came to you with an x470 and ryzen5k list, would you reccomend b550 at least?
im pretty sure my cpu limits the ram speed either way
yeah ofc
what cpu?
10400f
nah
I also know a LOT more about amd than intel
oh
yeah
i7 or i9 on b460 will be 2933mhz
2933
tysm for helping @frank stirrup and @desert gulch
ye np
for b560
you mean 10400f on b560 will limit ram speed to 2933?
no the chipset will
10400f on b560 can do 3200 ez
prolly even higher
idk
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/96KVQD
How's this
it says 2933 in the specs page for the mobo
what mobo?
11th gen can go higher
cap
id go for different ssd
idk what market is like over there
the best way to describe it is probably messed up
I found the wd blue to be great
but mp34, sn750, and pilot e are all rly good
for cheaper
sn750 is usually heavily discounted over here in the USA
that ssd
instead of kingston
also the fans in ur list are mis labeled inthat case
RF 120 not R4120
not cheap in India
oof
not even available last i checked
yep. typo
another guy said it was fine
itll work but its just meh
my bday is coming soon so i'll use stock for now and change later
vetroo v5 or se 224 xt or gammax 400
are all better
usually cheaper here too
not available
Ahh its back in stock
it was out a week or so back
yeah stock changes lol
that's what i had in my list before someone pointed out that i can get stock and upgrade later
bruh
2 8gb sticks
read the specifications on the mobo page mate
Gigabyte bβ560m ds3h
@desert gulch
i5 limited to 2666 actually
for 10th gen cpus
then dont get that board
no
it's dependent on the chipset
not the CPU
i3 is limited to 2666mhz no matter what
literally said those are likely JEDEC speeds
change ur name. without deck being plural, it sounds weird
confirmation as well-
https://youtu.be/1IWL1rzHE0I?t=180
CPU : i5-10400
λ©μΈλ³΄λ : ASRock B560 PRO4 μμ¦μ
MEMORY : μΌμ± DDR4-2666 16GB (2X8GB)
SSD : WD BLACK SN750 M.2 NVMe 500GB
GRAPHIC : SAPPHIRE λΌλ°μ¨ RX 6800 XT D6 16GB
CASE : Phanteks P500A DRGB (WT)
POWER : SuperFlower SF-850F14RG LEADEX III ARGB GOLD
Cooler : μλλ§₯μ€ LIQMAX III ARGB 360 νμ΄νΈ
μ λ ₯μ ν ν΄μ
λ©λͺ¨λ¦¬ μ€λ² ν΄λμ
λλ€.
B560 does do 2666+ on i5/i7/i9
it does way beyond that
ye
wait so can i just wait for like a week after my build and get a cooler
look thats what the specs page for the mobo says.
im likely not gonna be doing gaming in the first week either
ye thats fine
k
I'm saying those are JEDEC speeds....
i mean stock cooler works
i am highly inclined to trust the specs page
its just that a gammax 400 way better
specs page is literally wrong
because I have a b560
trust me, decks knows more than the ppl who put that page together
i'll get that later then
and I also do 3200+
and Intel has confirmed that i5's are not limited to 2666mhz, it is revolving around the chipset
also did you know lili?
yes
ok. tysm guys
you know sara?
yes
why
thats what the specs page for the mobo in the yt link you sent says
there is some difference no?
it says 4600+ (OC)
Ive been saying this for the past 3 times
those are JEDEC speeds
the one listed on B560m DS3H's site
hmm
does it depend on what mobo he gets tho
or are all boards on the chipset capable of it?
all B560 boards should be capable of 3200+
I see
even the shittiest one (HDV) can do that
im honestly amazed that word isnt banned lol
strange honestly
you see how all the speeds for these memory kits are listed as 2666MHZ (NATIVE)
those are JEDEC speeds
Hmm I see your point now
that is the maximum supported JEDEC speeds it can do, excluding manual overclocks
thanks
you should see how crap the mobo market is in india
oh yes.
at least with b560
I do because I live there
Its a crap market overall
legit 4 boards available from that retailer
same
actually?
yepge
or a mushkin pilot e
mhm
you guys have exclusive cool pc stuff we dont get in the states or no?
SE224XT costs like 4k but is there
well yes
HOF is like pretty rare in the USA
but pretty common in Asia
whats that?
Hall of fame
hm
Galaxy Microsystems Ltd.
We have ANT Esports. they have pretty good stuff for pretty cheap
also HOF SSD's, HOF RAM
damn they thicc
but they mostly make peripherals i think
ye HOF 3090 is specifically meant for LN2
new nickname time lol
I have never seen that
horrible quality ngl
what happened to sara?
banned
I don't think it's that bad
.
her words not mine
my friend has some of their stuff and it's pretty good
not rly self promo for sara, more just selling stuff lol
I threw their hedphones into the bin literally 3 hours after getting em because crappy audio quality
Bought my hyperx cloud stingers
very good headphones
Kinda similar as self promotr tho
lol kinda
sara said i was part of what got lili banned xD
they were both triyng to sell their stuff no?
well lili only answered a question someone asked about her pricing
I see
someone asked her about her pricing vs another company
and she told them
then got banned
she was dangerously close to the ledge already tho from what I heard
ban
i gave great segues to lililabs vps's
Like our segue to our sponsor glasswire
lol
As someone that uses a 3950X 16core, i am curious if a downgrade would be better in terms of gaming? I have heard 8-core should be the max recommended for gaming.
No probably not
It's more about budget, it doesn't make sense to buy a 3950X just to play games when something like a 3600, even a 3100 is good enough for playing games
it sounds like they're already using a 3950X though? not buying a new one
3950x is very simialr to a 3600 for gaming
that he's right
if he has the 3950x and he only uses it for gaming
he could sell it for a bit of profit and buy a 3600
his money would be saved and his gaming performance would be similar
I s'pose
Are you just playing games on your computer or do you do stuff that benefits from more cores + threads?
Gaming and video editing, mostly.
Yeah, if you use CPU encoding you'll have longer render times with a lower spec CPU
Just something to keep in mind
I wondered about that
I'd personally stick with the 3950X :)
@slim escarp its weird that your GPU is running hot. your case looks like fans are properly configured. What GPU is it? Also, its not advisable to daisy chain the power to the GPU like you have. if you can, run 2 separate PCIE power cables to the GPU
How do I know what ram to buy if I want to upgrade?
or add a stick
I'm looking to get at least 16gb
only have 8gb atm
What motherboard do you have?
I can send you the "mainboard" tab on this program
if that helps, because I don't know. It's prebuilt :/
okay I appreciate it
How much ram you want?
16
Total or add 16?
total
sweden
Okay
What's slot 2, 3, 4? If they're selectable
what's in them?
Yup
nothing I think, I think all the ram is in the first slot
Ffs there's no pc part picker for sweeeden
I'm just gonna use pcpp germany and just hope they are roughly same
that's a bummer
Is it a 2 slot board?
oh yes that'll work
Or is there an Amazon in sweeden?
when I hit the arrow it shows 4 slots so I'm guessing there are four slots
yeah there is a swedish amazon one sec ill give you a link
with these specifications?
Yeah
alright, thanks a lot that really helps
Np
take care
Thanks you too
Is this good https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Ff6VQD
eh, it's 30gbp, I'll just leave it if they really want pcie 4.0 for whatever reason
I mean that's like 50$ tho
Better off allocating that bit more to getting the 3080 for an okay price
40usd but eh
I assume they have the monies for normal 3080
if not, ofc the list should be cut down
I'm not sure where Nvidia is selling the FE cards in uk tbh
But currys have way more restocks
BWAHAHAHA! FOUNDERS EDITION! AND AT 650?????
msrp is 650gbp
tada
Their case can handle 360mm aio on top 
yeah.. msrp... that mythical creature that lives next to bigfoot, down the street from unicorns
freezer ii
There's a price diff of like 25 between 280 and 360 is really worth?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HzM7Jf better, if you really want pcie 4.0 for some reason put your ssd into this list instead
That trident z royal was charging 2x price of ballistix
Yay my new laptop power supply has shipped

battery?
What are some ways I could get a 3060ti besides Newegg shuffle and that EVGA waiting list thing
π₯Ί
Every two weeks about, probably next week or week after
Have to be watching for them
I live near a few Best Buyβs
Not in store tho
Only online
Online only
You need to do online
Oh
So I need that fast reaction time
You gotta race against bots
Or else no chance
What
Keep in mind that CPU has no iGPU so no video out
It shouldnβt be cheap
Vintage
I know
Thatβs odd I had to use the link in safari
shhhhh
He sent pcpp.com/list lol
Hold onοΏΌ
You need to send the link under that bud
Damn Iβm making almost the exact same build for a friend
It's not the right list lol
The link above the social media icons
yo anyone got a white build around 1.1k
white on black is fine too
Nah white builds are expensive
And gpu gone
At that price you're gonna sacrifice a lot of performance for a theme especially with gpus being expensive
White gpus escpecislly expensive
i just want a whiteish case
Just get a white td500 mesh
but im looking for a prebuilt idk
Pretty sure you just picked random parts but https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jTQsF8
Corsair 4000d airflow 
could i get a link
Just google corsair 4000d airflow
Metallic Gear Neo V2 in white also
No
No
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dx82Mv can save 30 bucks by d doing segotep 650w gold psu on Amazon
Yeah I'd go segotep
thanks alot
Or a different case too, save a bit there
Yeah that also
And go 4000d airflow is cheaper
But this comes with more fans
Bruh i already fixed that for you
What are you trying to do with this PC? That entire build is overpriced
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jTQsF8 i already even fixed for them
$800 for a 3950x is insanity
do i have to buy a different case for this build?
oh wait im blind
3600 C18, should be 16 minimum
Nope the one thatβs in there works perfectly but there are slightly cheaper options
i think the gpu is sold out
All gpus are
fawk
Gets 4000 mghz
Do gta5 rp and steam and also work
The cas latency
Ik but for 4x32gb sticks there want anyway
The 3950x wont' run 40000
Even the one i sent is way overkill for that unless you do a metric crap tun of cad or data mining for work
Also why u tryna get zen 2
i wonder what their work is if they need that much hardware π³
is the nzxt pc good
The cases aren't
starter pro
The cases are ovens
Ehh prebuilts for that price arenβt that good
Due to rising prices, those are even more expensive now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xhhwfP there then @brave coral here's your overkill af pc
Fixed
The parts list posted ina prebuild is probably 2K
Their b550 is somehow okay but that's about it lol
Thank u
Yes and they will be for a while
At least 1 year min
The founders edition I put in there are hard to get but def worth it cause they are so much cheaper than the other ones
But can I change the cpu cooler to my Corsair and my M.2
Ehhh the corsiar aio is meh and overpriced the ek one is better
