building-and-recc-chat

[hollow yacht]

Hi,i dont know what to get for my pc because of what is going on with the prices and out of stock, i have a 1361 usd budget and i do gaming and simple video editing ( content creation) i live in united arab emirates so if u could find parts in uae and under 5000dhs which is like 1361 dollars that would be amazing and my pc color sheme is white-silver and RGB

[balmy patio]

swag

we could help you

[rich helm]

Is there any way for you to get a gpu in the UAE

Cause if you were in the us there are some ways but idk about the uae

[hollow yacht]

i'm trying to get 2nd hand from https://dubai.dubizzle.com/

[full agate]

idk wich case to go with should I go with the nzxt h710 or the meshify 2 compact?

[muted patio]

Meshify

[full agate]

k

[rich helm]

My phone can’t open that link

[hollow yacht]

oops i typed it wrong

[rich helm]

Oh so just Craigslist but in uae

[hollow yacht]

exactly

[rich helm]

Yeah used locally probably best bet if you can’t do Newegg shuffle, my advice though is get the gpu first and the rest of the parts later

[hollow yacht]

uhh is 2060 good for video editing since in newegg uae it isn't that expensive

[rich helm]

How much is it for you

[desert gulch]

I'd buy it for 300 max

[rich helm]

Not worth more than 300 usd

[hollow yacht]

2928 dhs

[rich helm]

Isn’t that like more than half your budget

[hollow yacht]

yes, i could buy the other parts for cheap since i can find everything easily other then the gpu

what about this

[rich helm]

No that won’t be good for gaming or video editing

[desert gulch]

Nope

[rich helm]

What video editing software do you use

[desert gulch]

That's 800usd

[hollow yacht]

oh

[desert gulch]

For that 2060

[fossil cedar]

Don't bother buying a non rtx 3000 series / rx 6000 series from retailers you'll need to look at ebay

[hollow yacht]

does anyone in here lives in uae so he can help me to find me pc parts, or just tell me the shop

[desert gulch]

You won't find any 2k gpu new for a decent price

If you want a 2k series I'd start looking used and hope you get lucky, which is probably not gonna happen

[hollow yacht]

buying a pc these days is as hard as getting a bitcoin

[rich helm]

Getting a bit coin is easy

Compared to pc

[fossil cedar]

You can also look at 5700xts or something although they're selling for like 800$

[fossil cedar]

True, all you need is a Gameboy XD

[hollow yacht]

but u need to pay like 10 times even more so u can buy a pc to mine with it

[fossil cedar]

Don't neeeed a pc to mine bitcoin, it's not even profitable to mine bitcoin with a pc anymore anyway, you need an asic for bitcoin, ppl with gpus are mining Ethereum or other alt coins btw

[hollow yacht]

really?

[hollow yacht]

ohhhhhhhhhh

[rich helm]

I can buy a Bitcoin if I wanted to technically rn on coinbase

[fossil cedar]

Very slow and not profitable but someone did it

[fossil cedar]

Or if you mine with nicehash, you mine Ethereum or other alt coins and auto converts to bitcoin for you

[hollow yacht]

oh

[fossil cedar]

https://www.cnet.com/news/you-can-mine-bitcoin-on-a-game-boy-but-probably-shouldnt/

[hollow yacht]

sheesh how long did it took that guy that mined one

[fossil cedar]

You don't mine a singular crypto of any kind, when you mine you get tiny pieces of it

[lapis lily]

Would a 650W psu be enough for a build with ryzen 5 3600 and rx 6800xt?

[muted patio]

Yes

if it's a good one

[lapis lily]

its the rm650x

[muted patio]

OH yeah

You be fine

[lapis lily]

Okay, thanks. I had gotten the psu for my build and then unexpectedly got a rx6800xt so I just wanted to make sure it would still work

[muted patio]

You're good

Go enjoy it

[lapis lily]

Thanks, it took me like 3 months but I can finally do my first ever build 😄

[muted patio]

It'll be worth the wait. 6800XT rivals 3080 in pure FPS

[lapis lily]

Yeah, I'm excited and can't wait until it arrives!

Going from a laptop to pc will feel amazing

[muted patio]

Oh man

XD

[lapis lily]

I expect to be amazed

[muted patio]

1440p monitors?

Or monitor?

[lapis lily]

Yeah, 1440p

[muted patio]

Nice, that's what I game with

[fossil cedar]

650w is recommended for the 6700xt so idk

[muted patio]

165hz

[muted patio]

It'll be fine

600W recommended

[fossil cedar]

Really?

[muted patio]

Not sure why they saying 700W for 6700XT because that's just overkill

[fossil cedar]

Ohh yeah they say 650w for 6800xt okay

[muted patio]

Card pulls 300W, CPU pulls maybe 100W

More than enough

[fossil cedar]

Why do they also say 650w for 6700xt then lol 🤦

[muted patio]

I have no idea but it's silly XD

[stoic island]

Most modern PSUs have x50w varients so

450 550 650 750 850

Manufacturers usually just choose from the list yaknow

[little osprey]

Package came in

[muted patio]

Niiiiiice

Intel build?

[little osprey]

Yeah

[muted patio]

Sweet

[fickle moss]

i need help installing my cpu

im installing an intel and i put the cover on but when i put the arm down it feels like i am going to break it

[muted patio]

Normal

as long as the pointer lines up, it's fine

[fickle moss]

ok

[muted patio]

It's keyed, will only fit one way

[fickle moss]

it is requiring a lot of force though

[muted patio]

so double check then hammer down

[fickle moss]

and i hear like snapping

[earnest olive]

intel socket fights you to the death

[fickle moss]

ok

[earnest olive]

yeah that's normal

amd socket goes down if you sneeze in its general direction

[fickle moss]

got it

[earnest olive]

intel socket is that drunk guy at the pub that picks a fight with you for literally no reason

[fickle moss]

lmao

[earnest olive]

the cpu really only fits in one way thanks to the little cutout in the substrate

[muted patio]

Yes

[earnest olive]

so if it's in the socket and doesn't wiggle then your placement is fine

cracking sounds are also normal

i believe it is the clips on the black socket cover getting released

but not 100% sure on that

[ancient wraith]

Can someone help me use ddu too get a clean install on drivers

[muted patio]

Download it. Restart windows in Safe Mode. Run DDU, check the boxes for your GPU brand and choose Clean and Restart.

[ancient wraith]

how do i do safe mode

[muted patio]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/start-your-pc-in-safe-mode-in-windows-10-92c27cff-db89-8644-1ce4-b3e5e56fe234

First article drop down menu

[ancient wraith]

do i have too manually reinstall drivers or does ddu do it

[muted patio]

You'll have to manually reinstall them

DDU is just driver delete

[ancient wraith]

im sorry im so dumb but do i reinstall geforce now

because it the drivers

[muted patio]

Yes, you can reinstall that also

[fossil cedar]

After ddu

[muted patio]

That will do it all for you if you DL that

[ancient wraith]

so like nvidias website

ok ill try my best

I'm really bad at stuff thank u

[muted patio]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce-now/download/

Just go there when you're done

[ancient wraith]

Where do I get ddu

[muted patio]

https://www.guru3d.com/files-get/display-driver-uninstaller-download,9.html

[ancient wraith]

Ok thanks

When I am in safe mode I just open the ddu.exe

[muted patio]

Yes

Check all the boxes for nVidia

Then Clean and Restart

[muted patio]

4

[ancient wraith]

I just click f4 right

[muted patio]

4

not F4

[ancient wraith]

I'm in safe mode

It looks so bad bruh

[muted patio]

of course lol

XD

no drivers

[ancient wraith]

I am confused

Do I uncheck the amd stuff

[muted patio]

Uncheck everything but nVidia

[ancient wraith]

General even

[muted patio]

Yeah

[ancient wraith]

Do I remove phsyx

[muted patio]

yes

Geforce will reinstall it

[ancient wraith]

So this is correct

[muted patio]

can't see checks XD

[ancient wraith]

Sorry lol

[muted patio]

yep\

[ancient wraith]

What now

Do I just close out

[muted patio]

no, there's a nother button somewhere

Clean and restart on the right?

[muted patio]

yeah clean and restart

[ancient wraith]

Ok

I clicked it and now its grey

Lmao

Do I stay in safe mode when I install drivers

I don't think it worked

I still have geforce experience

[muted patio]

You'll have ;GeForce experience

just not GPU drivers

and go back to regular windows

[ancient wraith]

How do I exit this

[muted patio]

Should just be Windows Icon - Right Click - Restart

[ancient wraith]

It just did it by itself

Umm

Ok

Wait so If I still have geforce can I install geforce again

Im sorry

[muted patio]

Just open Geforce again and INstall drivers

[ancient wraith]

Wait I don't have gefotce anymore

Oh

[round stream]

dEEZ NUts

[ancient wraith]

Yah

[wanton crystal]

Thanks for your help on the 3rd, and anyone else who helped. I had the pc that wouldn't do anything, I finally figured out the issue. The motherboard wasn't working whatsoever, just got my replacement MB and tested it, working! Thank God! And I got my money back so I'm not out of pocket anything!

[muted patio]

Wow, a dead MB??

Pretty rare, glad it's sorted

[ancient wraith]

Any setting I should change that may have reset

[muted patio]

Nope

Just reinstall drivers with GeForce experience and carry on

[ancient wraith]

Ok thank you for your help

Ok

[muted patio]

YW

[ancient wraith]

@muted patio

Now nvidia broadcast won't work

[potent portal]

Did you reboot after installing the new driver, and set all the options it needs?

[ancient wraith]

I need too update it

I just have too reinstall it I guess

[muted patio]

GeForce Experience, Driver Update tab, check for updates?

[ancient wraith]

Nvidia broadcast

[muted patio]

I know I'm saying check Geforce experience for driver update?

Or driver installation>?

Ah, might have to reinstall Broadcast as well

I've never used it so IDK

[ancient wraith]

I have latest geforce driver it says

[muted patio]

Ok, reinstall Broadcast then

[ancient wraith]

I think I fixed it

[empty chasm]

Is this good?

[muted patio]

yes

[empty chasm]

Was 679 a good price for it?

[desert gulch]

ehh not the best but with current market not too bad

[empty chasm]

Ok

I'm pairing it with a ryzen 7 3700x

[muted patio]

Good combo

[desert gulch]

not bad

[muted patio]

I have the same

[desert gulch]

pretty good

[empty chasm]

What does the fps look like?

[desert gulch]

what game?

what res?

[muted patio]

Powers my 165hz monitor just fine XD

[desert gulch]

what settings?

[muted patio]

140+ is typical at 1440p

[empty chasm]

Ok

[desert gulch]

it really depends on game tbh tho

[empty chasm]

Yeah

[frank vapor]

anyone got recommendations for a white prebuilt that goes for 1100 with atleast a 2060?

[desert gulch]

this dell had a 10400 and 2060 for sub 800 yesterday.. idk if it still is there - https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/xps-desktop-special-edition/spd/xps-8940-se-desktop

[frank vapor]

christ

the codes not available anymore

[desert gulch]

oof

could always wait for it to go back on sale ig

[warm badge]

And here i was 3 months ago thinking the stocks gonna be fine by march or april
looks like ill have to kiss an upgrade goodbye this summer

[tight sorrel]

is it good enough for 1440p gaming at full detail?

[cold sorrel]

Now I wait to get my hands on a 5600x when those come back in stock.

[tight sorrel]

3070 + 3700x

what proc?

processor

okm cool. cos ive been debating 5600x / 3700x / 5800x

yes, but I am drawn to the more cores of the 3700

and 5800 is a bit expensive

[cold sorrel]

I'm kind of stuck running 1080p since that's the monitor I have. (Look, when I bought it last year I was originally aiming for a 1660 Super. Then I talked myself into aiming for a 2060 Super. Then got convinced to wait... but I bought the monitor when it came in stock.)

[rich helm]

Amd restocks Thursday night or something

[tight sorrel]

nah, I do some productivity too

also.. and this is just a quirk, it tickles me pink that the processor and my gpu will have the same characters (3700 / 3070)

its a sign

[cold sorrel]

At least with 12 GB of video memory of a 3060, I won't have to worry about my computer choking on graphics anytime soon.

Cyberpunk is not really my thing.

I mostly like fantasy games. I will dabble in scifi sometimes, but the cyberpunk aesthetic has never really appealed.

There's some graphic effects I turn off because I find them obnoxious even if my GPU can handle it. (Bloom being a major offender)

[little osprey]

So I just bought a Prebuilt PC... and booted it up and started playing, do I need to do anything special to it?

came with some CD's but I have no CD slot... pretty sure everything came pre installed

[urban light]

Hey guys which ram do yall think I should get it’s either this one https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232897?Item=N82E16820232897&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.pcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FXv4BD3%2Fgskill-trident-z-royal-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gtrsc&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-qWbYpoM4DsnFU9ZNXbkTxQ
Or this one

https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Vengeance-PRO-RGB-Black/p/CMW16GX4M2K3600C16?utm_source=PCPartPicker_79301&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=497991_CORSAIR UK Product Catalog Ad&utm_content=Corsair&clickid=UcuWT-RubxyLUKIwUx0Mo3EoUkESn32pGVpWxI0&irgwc=1

So far I’m thinking the first one cause I think it’ll go better with my case but I dunno

[stoic island]

@urban light are you in the US or UK

[urban light]

Uk

[stoic island]

Likely Corsair or others, Newegg usually charges a decent bit on shipping to non-US

In general, Corsair ram relatively sucky

But good nuff

[urban light]

Aight one sec Inma check

[little osprey]

XOTICPC

on newegg

[stoic island]

Xotic should be good.

[urban light]

The shipping is included in that price

[little osprey]

thanks

[stoic island]

I'd get Royal if it's vat inclusive

[urban light]

Ok great thanks

I think it’ll go great with my case aswell

[twilit portal]

What do you mean by scuffed?

Like physically?

[little osprey]

can't buy a gaming laptop with bitpay?

[twilit portal]

Can't really tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing

The screen DEFINITELY is junk

Haha all good

Its my space parts zombie

*spare

Some, the hardest part was cutting the plexi glass for the case cover. After that everything kinda just fell in place. Its a low budget kinda thing. It has a 7700k and a 1050 ti and 12gb DDR4 (odd amount I know). I use it at LAN parties and to chill on the couch or something. Use wifi/Bluetooth with headphones or the screen does have speakers

1080p 60hz screen, cheap but does the job

128gb M.2 with Dolphin emulator and Rocket League and play some Escape from Tarkov on it, but not all that great. Beats carrying around my large pc

[last trail]

Hello. So i bought this.

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-shiva-0128/p/N82E16883289092?item=N82E16883289092

Oh no..Why am i unfortunates

I'm here for spec comparison. I was told the skytech was better.

Or was

[warm badge]

with the situation is rn, cant blame anyone for getting prebuilts

[last trail]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-aegis-rs-9td-082us/p/N82E16883152736?item=N82E16883152736

I originally had this but had problems

So I'm trying this and was told its better for gaming

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-shiva-0128/p/N82E16883289092?item=N82E16883289092

[cold sorrel]

At least I didn't have to go the route of a prebuilt. Once I snag a CPU, everything else is in stock already and should come relatively easily.

[warm badge]

i was gonna look up the price of a 3070 rn on newegg but nope not even in stock
and in my country the 3070s are going for 2 grand, so i suppose the pc was fairly priced

[lofty brook]

Finished my first build a couple days ago and just got on, and every app/program I have downloaded, every time I try to open any of them, I get a “procedure entry point WaitCommEvent could not be located in the dynamic link library.” Anyone have any idea why or what to do to fix?

[cold sorrel]

I have already warned the family to watch for the GPU delivery so it doesn't get left on the porch too long. (Not really a high crime area, but still. Valuable and delicate part that doesn't need to be left out in the open any longer than necessary)

[muted patio]

Did it mention a file by chance? Like VCRUNTIME140.dll or anything?

[lofty brook]

C:\windows\systems32\kernel32.dll

I also ran a scan in system32 through command print, which says I had corrupt files and it has repaired them, if that means anything.

I also haven’t bought a key for windows yet.

[little osprey]

I just bought a gaming laptop, then received an email an hour later that I now have store credit for the amount I just bought it for?

but when I sign into my account it says it's suspended

wtF?

[lofty brook]

what site?

[little osprey]

new egg

[muted patio]

DM neweggservice

They can help

[little osprey]

i did

[muted patio]

Ok, so just wait a bit until they can help tou.

[little osprey]

ahh dang ok

[muted patio]

No one else here can.

[little osprey]

thank u

[muted patio]

Welcome!! No one here is staff. :(

[tranquil marsh]

Hey everyone, so I have some items listed in my cart to build my next PC. It'd be cool if someone could run through my choices and give me any advice

[cold sorrel]

Go ahead and list it off. You'll usually get good advice here.

[tranquil marsh]

Alright just a sec

LIAN LI LANCOOL II BLACK Tempered Glass ATX Case -Black Color -LANCOOL II -X

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler, 4 CDC Heatpipes, 120mm PWM Fan, Aluminum Fins for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16

Intel 660p Series M.2 2280 2TB PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 3D2, QLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SSDPEKNW020T8X1

Intel Core i9-10850K Comet Lake 10-Core 3.6 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630 - BX8070110850K

CORSAIR RMx Series RM750x CP-9020179-NA 750W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply

ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-E GAMING WIFI LGA 1200 Intel Z590 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard

[muted patio]

Hyper 212 no please. That won't keep the 10850K cool at ALL
No Intel 660p, get a Mushkin Pilot E instead

You're going to need a better cooler for the 10850K

[warm badge]

and since you're going for a fairly decent build
id get 32 gigs of ram in total

[tranquil marsh]

I'm also trying to pick the most ethical companies, so avoiding MSI for instance, but it's a bit of a minefield

[stoic island]

Well, that's a very very wacky area

[muted patio]

Like a NOctua NH12 or D15 or something

Dark Rock Pro 4

[tranquil marsh]

Yes but if anyone knows, in addition to which is the better performing part, which is the better ethical company that'd be even better!

[cold sorrel]

Pretty much every PC part manufacturer has done something stupid.

[stoic island]

But, also, you should use
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[earnest olive]

you say ethical company

but pick intel

[tranquil marsh]

Not ethical, "most ethical", it's a curve

[still roost]

Evre#2765 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[warm badge]

last time i checked intel gets their sand from child labor

[tranquil marsh]

They can still be a poopy company

But the least poopy

[earnest olive]

would definitely say amd is more ethical lol

[stoic island]

Everyone does something weird and wack, so I don't really take it into account lel

[muted patio]

Exactly

[earnest olive]

amd was not the one making deals behind closed doors to make sure their competition didn't get OEM deals

[muted patio]

Regardless, the SSD and CPU cooler need to go

[warm badge]

and more ram, 16 gigs gets filled pretty easy these days

[tranquil marsh]

What's up with the m.2?

[stoic island]

Depends really

[earnest olive]

intel 660p just offers less than same priced competition

[stoic island]

@tranquil marsh by the way where are you buying from

[earnest olive]

mushkin pilot-e

[tranquil marsh]

Buying from newegg

[warm badge]

the 660p is just meh
it doesnt last as long as other ssds of the same caliber afaik
so its worse

[tranquil marsh]

Currently picking intel to avoid Samsung

[muted patio]

The intel is just slow at everything compared to others

[little osprey]

bought a gaming pc like 2 months ago no problems, now I am having issues buying a damn laptop?

[muted patio]

We don't recommend samsung either, overpriced

[little osprey]

c'mon

[stoic island]

Nice, pilot e is there, but you should use pcpp if you can still buy from all retailers
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[muted patio]

It's 2 TB tho

in their list

[cold sorrel]

I'm only going with 16 gigs of RAM for right now in my build.

[stoic island]

Well, Mushkin makes Pilot E, not samsung, as a side note

[earnest olive]

you can configure pcpp to only search newegg btw

[stoic island]

Ya

Pcpp is just so much nicer to share things and see things

Because a lot of pc part picking has to do with price to performance

[tranquil marsh]

No longer a snail , cool name haha

[stoic island]

And you cant really compare things without knowing a price

[earnest olive]

my old profile picture was a snail

[tranquil marsh]

I can see how that would have been funnier

[cold sorrel]

For example, this is a rough idea of my build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Bdfgt
Nothing is final save the items marked purchased. (Because I've had the purchased items too long to send them back.)

[tranquil marsh]

So my picking criteria is ethics/performance/price, in that order. I think ethics should be included, but it's a very little discussed topic, so it's awkward to bring it up for that reason. HOWEVER, I would like to pick a slightly worst performing part from a nicer company IF POSSIBLE, even if it's just slightly nicer

[warm badge]

its impossible to check just how ethical a company is
they all hide things

[stoic island]

(it's too much going on for us to really consider it for most companies, if you don't like any companies for whatever incidents, you'll need to point it out)

[muted patio]

NOctua cooler

[cold sorrel]

Okay, the 3060 is on its way... but still not returning that either. Because who knows if I'd get another GPU this year.

[muted patio]

Mushkin NVME

Or be Quiet CPU cooler https://www.amazon.com/quiet-Dark-Rock-BK022-Cooler/dp/B07BY6F8D9/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Dark+rock+pro4&qid=1617925365&s=electronics&sr=1-1

[tranquil marsh]

Evo 212 is better than what they put into alienwares. not good enough?

[muted patio]

NOt even close

[tranquil marsh]

I opened an alienware, it had a tiny black fan over it's cpu. nothing else

with miniature heatsink

[muted patio]

That has nothing to do with the CPU you chose

Absolutely nothing lol

[tranquil marsh]

They use the latest cpu's?

[warm badge]

Thats like a little duct that directs air to the cpu
but its a pointless matter rn

[muted patio]

The 10850K is hot CPU

[cold sorrel]

Prebuilts are notorious for cheaping out on coolers.

[muted patio]

212 isn't sufficient

[tranquil marsh]

Are you saying 10th gen is that much hotter running than 8th?

[muted patio]

yes

[tranquil marsh]

I opened up one with an i7, prob a few generations older

[muted patio]

The 10850K draws up to 265 Watts

Which means you need a good cooler for it

[warm badge]

welp thats what happens when you go 14nm+++ (and a few more pluses)

[tranquil marsh]

new egg says 125w though?

[muted patio]

You came here for advice on parts yeah?

That's base clock, not boost clocks

[tranquil marsh]

I am engaging with the advice, thank you

[muted patio]

CPU draws up to 265 watts

[tranquil marsh]

The be quiet fan looks pretty good

[muted patio]

TDP ratings are useless

They only rate base clocks, not boost clocks, for both AMD and Intel

[west rampart]

How good is the MSI MAG CORE LIQUID 240R - 2x120mm  for cpu cooling

[muted patio]

THe Intel 660p has poor performance compared to other NVME drives, really poor

[tranquil marsh]

You think mushkin is better?

[muted patio]

I know it is, Twice as fast.

But it also costs more

$200

[tranquil marsh]

So I'm upgrading from a regular SSD, which means I'll probably be blown away by the speed either way right?

[muted patio]

660P is 1800 MBPS, Mushkin is double that

And honestly no

[tranquil marsh]

M.2 is something like 10x faster than an SSD or something?

[muted patio]

Not much difference between a Sata SSD and NVME for day to day use or loading times

[tranquil marsh]

That's surprising for a new tech

So am I missing anything or is anything incompatible aside from a few better parts?

[muted patio]

But from what I'm seeing, the INtel 2 TB is actually more expensive but slower

$225

Mushkin $215

[fossil cedar]

Well nvme and sata ssds in standard or m.2 form factor are around the same price anyway so much as well go m.2 in most cases

[muted patio]

COnsider the 212 to be incompatible.

You'll cook that 10850K with it lol

[stoic island]

(Just because it fits doesn't mean it's designed to work together)

[tranquil marsh]

Hmmm, so that "be quiet" one, which is a bit pricier would do though?

[fossil cedar]

Dark rock pro 4 from be quiet is good

[muted patio]

Yes

250 TWP rated

[stoic island]

Yea, NH-U12a, Fuma 2, etc, all decent options over a 212 that'll cool a 10850

[fossil cedar]

Or nhd15

[stoic island]

I don't like d15 and drp4, sometimes blocks ram, annoyin

[fossil cedar]

Fair, but isn't it better than the u12a?

[stoic island]

Only slightly

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[tranquil marsh]

I'm looking at dark rock pro, it looks enourmous, which is fine unless it blocks ports etc

[fossil cedar]

Well atm the d15 is like 30$ less as well

[muted patio]

U12A is $110! what

[stoic island]

lemme check, it was back to 100$ a bit ago

[muted patio]

I just checked

[fossil cedar]

Something like that yeah

[muted patio]

Dark Rock Pro 4 then

oof

For $110 may as well go AIO

[stoic island]

aw damn

[fossil cedar]

That's why i was say d15 better

[stoic island]

u12a price sad

[muted patio]

D15 HUGE tho

[fossil cedar]

Artic liquid freezer 280 if fits case

[muted patio]

Exactly for that kind of money

wow

[stoic island]

d15s is decent

[tranquil marsh]

People get a little obsessed with cooling though lol

[fossil cedar]

Mmm but it's worth it

You don't want to cook your cpu

[tranquil marsh]

I mean I know it's important for longetivity, but people hyper focus on it like with PSU too

[fossil cedar]

You'll thermal throttle tf out of a 10850k with a 212 for example

[tranquil marsh]

Gotcha

I appreciate you all

Thanks

[stoic island]

eh

[fossil cedar]

It will also allow you to boost higher

In some cases

[tranquil marsh]

What about my RAM?

[fossil cedar]

What's your ram?

[tranquil marsh]

The mobo is top notch from what I can see, but

[muted patio]

When you put a 100W cooler on a 250W CPU, it's an issue

[tranquil marsh]

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16

[muted patio]

There's a reason the Dell/HP prebuilts perform poorly lol

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the price, would you consider using pcpartpicker.com for your list tho

[tranquil marsh]

That's what confuses me, is how all the prebuilts have.... really basic cooling

But then all the buildings have like... mazes of liquid nitrogen around their house haha

[fossil cedar]

They cook

[tranquil marsh]

The builders

[fossil cedar]

Btw what price is the ram you got? Because it's only good at right price

[tranquil marsh]

Okay I'll check out part picker to reassemble my list

It's around 100

[fossil cedar]

Cool

[muted patio]

ANd those prebuilts get hot, really hot, and restrict CPU useage

[tranquil marsh]

Sounds like a waste

Almost a scam

To sell a pc that overheats

[fossil cedar]

And cases worse airflow than nzxt xd

[muted patio]

That's why we don't recommend those prebuilts

But people who don't know better likely don't need the performance anyway

[tranquil marsh]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sQwJW3

Lian Li LANCOOL II-X ATX Mid Tower Case has a front panel USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port, but the Asus ROG STRIX Z590-E GAMING WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard does not have sufficient USB 3.2 Gen 2 or Gen 1 headers. The case USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type C port will not be usable.

The case has more ports than the Mobo?

[stoic island]

No, it's more that the motherboard is missing one of the types of USB headers

USB has so many standards it's very annoying

There's your usual usb 2.0 header, then the usb 3.0 header, then separate usb 3.1 and 3.2 headers

[tranquil marsh]

What is a header exactly?

[muted patio]

Where the cable plugs into the motherboard

The socket/pins are called headers

[stoic island]

stuff like these bois

You plug connectors into them

[tranquil marsh]

Oh got it

So if I used this case, then some of the USB ports would be dead because there is no where for them to go on the board itself?

[muted patio]

Just the front panel Type C won't be connected

[stoic island]

Basically, but just the usb 3.2 or whatever it was

[muted patio]

The USB Type A's will be connected (traditional USB ports)

[tranquil marsh]

Should I switch the board or the case maybe, for compatibility?

[muted patio]

USB 3.2 connectors like that are still fairly rare. Only switch if it bothers you and you absolutely HAVE to have the Type C connector

[tranquil marsh]

The case is future driven then

[muted patio]

Kind of, yes

[stoic island]

Also, remember, this is about case front panel usb ports, there's a bunch of usb rear panel ports

[tranquil marsh]

So when building a PC, it doesn't need to be perfectly matched up...

[stoic island]

Like for example, this is the mobo that's in your list, look at all dem usb ports on the back

[muted patio]

Not for that kind of stuff, generally.

[tranquil marsh]

Do you think you there is a better board though?

[muted patio]

The USB ports on the front will work too, just not the Type C

[tranquil marsh]

By ASUS specifically

[stoic island]

There's boards that make more sense pricing wise

[muted patio]

WHy not Z490?

[stoic island]

since z590-e is kind of the 300$+ really expensive board bracket

[muted patio]

Those aren't any cheaper

-_-

Z590/490 is spendy, oof

[stoic island]

I mean, isn't smth like z490-a 150$

[tranquil marsh]

I'd like to be able to keep the build for 10 years without getting a new mobo and have pretty good functioning with games etc

That's why I chose the higher end mobo

It's the main bottleneck it seems over time

[stoic island]

Motherboards... Really don't hold their values like that imo

[muted patio]

MOtherboards aren't really a bottleneck. Both Intel and AMD are changing sockets next gen anyway

[muted patio]

$239!!!

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119289?Description=Z490&cm_re=Z490-_-13-119-289-_-Product

O.o

[tranquil marsh]

Right now I have an 8 year old mobo or something like that, and the only thing stopping the upgrade to a GTX 3080 is the outdated PCE bandwidth

[stoic island]

@muted patio 180$
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-z490-a-pro-socket-1200-usb-c-gen-2-intel-atx-motherboard-pcie-gen-2/6436464.p

[muted patio]

Uh

Remember MSI is a no go

[tranquil marsh]

Right MSI is pro slavery

[stoic island]

uh

what

[muted patio]

let's not go there

[tranquil marsh]

ASUS is the one company I was able to verify as making moves to stop child labor

[stoic island]

alright then

[muted patio]

Just keep it to you don't like MSI

[stoic island]

annoying pricing

[tranquil marsh]

I'm using MSI right now, but then I found out ASUS was better for the world

MSI afterburner is fun

[modest shell]

Hello....I am looking to run 20 or BlueStacks instances , looking for recommended gpu, cpu

[tranquil marsh]

But it's not loss, ASUS makes functional things too

[muted patio]

What are you running on the Bluestacks instance? Those like cores, lots of cores

[muted patio]

@sand falcon If you're around, I think you could help here

[modest shell]

Evony game

Mobile game

Also why are gpu hard to find....almost triple price

Thanks I will wait for the answer , feel free to Pvt message Bob

[muted patio]

Yeah, that's out of my realm

[modest shell]

Was thinking AMD 12

[muted patio]

I do rmemeber him saying bluestacks is resource intensive

Cuz you need to run not only that but also the game

[modest shell]

Yeah...

[muted patio]

At least 2 cores per instance

SO you're looking at 40 cores lol

[modest shell]

Lol

I think if tweaked correctly you can achieve some good results

At the same time not doing to spend 5k

Definitely need good gpu

[muted patio]

It's not just bluestacks tho, it's also the game requirement

[modest shell]

Game is android

[muted patio]

20 instances of not only a VM but also the game itself

[modest shell]

Yeah bluestacks is kinda like VM

[muted patio]

Right. So you'll need to run that then the game on top of it

If the game takes 4 GB of ram on your phone, it'll need that in the VM too, for example

Then the VM on top of it

[modest shell]

Yeah that's why looking for sme answer

I don't want over or under spend and have issues

[muted patio]

You're honestly looking at either INtel HEDT processor or Threadripper

and thousands of dollars

for a game

[modest shell]

aMD 12 core? Won't cut it

[muted patio]

Not for 20 instances of the game, no

Need at least 1 core per bluestack instance

bare minimum

So that's 20 cores right there

[modest shell]

Hmmm

Ok then 6 it is

[muted patio]

Honestly with a 12 core, I could see 6 Bluestack instances running

Yeah

[stoic island]

To be honest, I'm thinking threadripper chip

[modest shell]

How many cores?

Pls provide any links

So I can look deeper

[stoic island]

up to 64, probably a 32 core varient, how much are you willing to spend?

[modest shell]

Total around 4k or so

Complete build

Memory , case

Etc

[stoic island]

It'd be 2k just for the chip, but it's a possibility, I'll make a list around it, 32-core 3970x:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0815JJQQ8

[modest shell]

How about pay as u go

Start low Chip

And invest

But need mother board which be future proof

[stoic island]

Here's the thing

TR chips are on a completely separate platform

with a different board basically every generation

[muted patio]

Yup

[modest shell]

So I have to but the MB agai

[stoic island]

So yea...

[modest shell]

Hmm that sucks

They should have decent motherboard be able to handle both

What about GPU

3080 xt?

Or lower will do as well

[stoic island]

I mean, what are you trying to display..?

[modest shell]

Be back ....but feel free to IM , perhaps BOb have diffent opinion

Bot

Which then rallies

Automatically

Its Python based bot

[muted patio]

Mr1111

Android game

20 instances

[stoic island]

yea

I mean how do you want to display it

like a single monitor and you just split it down into each instance taking a portion of the screen

or like 20 monitors

[stoic island]

btw, I'm talking about Ryzen (cheap consumer stuff) not going anywhere near Threadripper stuff, afterall, just the socket size is wayyy different, tr40x socket is like twice the size of a normal am4 socket

[modest shell]

Single monitor

Think 20 small phones

Resized

[stoic island]

Well, this is basically what you'd be looking at
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DmHZ3Z

ram is expensive, board is expensive, psu is sadly expensive

lots of people mining

[muted patio]

uh

[stoic island]

aw even revolt pro is actually out of stock

[modest shell]

Lol

[muted patio]

I found a corsair RMI psu for $200 yesterday

half the price

[stoic island]

RMi has been out of stock for

like half a year

I've been watching the Corsair store page

[muted patio]

Seriously?

[modest shell]

Yeah but gpu is also hard to find

[stoic island]

the RM1000i

It's a great PSU for decent-high-end

I look at it every time a build needs 1000w

[orchid matrix]

I'm trying to get an H700i but NZXT's Website doesn't even have a price listed. I'm not sure if its sold out or removed since the Ninja version of it witch is out of stock has a price listed. Anyone able to help?

[stoic island]

and every time it's been out of stock

[muted patio]

Poo

[modest shell]

I think this is good start

I'll check it out

[stoic island]

@muted patio well, much less than half a year, went oos in early February, seemed like forever ago :P

[modest shell]

Thnx

[stoic island]

@modest shell Anyways power supply is basically just out of stock, should be 200$ for a decent 1000w unit but, 400$ is a good enough placeholder price since there's like none nowadays

[modest shell]

Gotcha

[stoic island]

though, with a 3070, it might be able to do 850w, I was looking at 3080 at first

[modest shell]

Card is also not available

[stoic island]

might be able to, I don't really want to use that option unless necessary

ofc

GPUs are gonno

[modest shell]

Ebay yes

But triple the money

2200$

[orchid matrix]

Does anyone know a good alternative to the H700i? I looked at the H710I but it didn't come in the color I wanted.

[stoic island]

Corsair 4000d/5000d :P

[fossil cedar]

Airflow versions very superior but that assumes you don't mind openish front

[raw crane]

Hello, if I have a MSI MOBO do I need a MSI gpu?

Or can I get whatever gpu I want

[stoic island]

Nope, any brand GPU will fit

[raw crane]

Okay thank you

[little osprey]

whats a good 204 pin so-dimm ddr4-1600 2x8gb ram kit?

[stoic island]

1600?

[little osprey]

yes

[stoic island]

uh not sure

I know there's decent g.skill like 2666 kits

[little osprey]

max mine can handle is 1600

[muted patio]

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Single-PC3-12800-Unbuffered-204-Pin/dp/B007B5S52C?th=1

[fossil cedar]

Hey I'm in queue for Linus's Vag cuz 5900x idk if I'm gonna buy but I'm not supposed to refresh right?

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0819SM3DR?pf_rd_r=E4BWTRTNMK9VM16BD6NN&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8&pd_rd_r=36e56d48-9c8e-40c8-9997-0de4f6b087b0&pd_rd_w=qP61m&pd_rd_wg=dGFdg&ref_=pd_gw_unk

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-204-pin-ddr3-so-dimm/p/N82E16820231705?Item=N82E16820231705&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FNB2kcf%2Fgskill-memory-f31600c9d16grsl&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-l6BU0tJOwkgstLh3sfy41g

[muted patio]

wat

[little osprey]

@stoic island @muted patio these are what im looking at rn

[muted patio]

The first one isn't ram, that's a GPU

[stoic island]

the uh what

for the first one

[muted patio]

The second one is fine

[little osprey]

im upgrading my gpu as well

[muted patio]

$250 + $100 for ram, halfway to a new laptop

980m is OLD

[little osprey]

i have dual 670M

[muted patio]

new integrated Vega might be faster

[little osprey]

with a intel i7-3840QM

[muted patio]

What laptop is this in?

[little osprey]

clevo p370m

its a hand me down

[stoic island]

It's not bad, but it's not good either
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-GTX-980M-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-with-Max-Q-Design-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060-Laptop-GPU/2976vs4199vs4342

comparison with some more modern laptop gpus

[little osprey]

cant use anything above 980m

[fossil cedar]

Anyone know if I'm supposed to refresh in queue or not?

[little osprey]

ill manly be using it as a mobile workstation/ mobile gaming rig

[little osprey]

nope

ill mainly be playing borderlands 2, some battle.net games, and such

nothing big

[fossil cedar]

That's what i thought I've been waiting a while tho feel like all are gone tho

[little osprey]

my dad used it up till a few years ago until he needed to upgrade to run a server

[little osprey]

prob

[atomic epoch]

anyone got a link for a streaming build for 1500 - 2500 USD?

[little osprey]

@stoic island @muted patio keep in mind, was made in 2013, and the thermal paste was changed for the first time yesterday

[stoic island]

ye

[little osprey]

kinda hard with gpu prices like they are

[fossil cedar]

Like i don't wanna click off if there's a chance thoo

[atomic epoch]

yeah that's what I feared, it's needed pretty quickly though

[little osprey]

what game you trying to play?

[atomic epoch]

I;m helping a friend build a PC for streaming

[little osprey]

ahh

[atomic epoch]

He's going to be streaming stocks on twitch mostly

[little osprey]

oh....

stocks?

[atomic epoch]

some of the software can be pretty intense

[little osprey]

as in stock market?

[atomic epoch]

yeah

[little osprey]

ahh

[stoic island]

wack

streaming makes it wack

stock software generally works nicely with just cpu perf

[atomic epoch]

that was my assumption

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QwcMnQ/pny-video-card-vcggt7102xpb this is all i can find in stock

[atomic epoch]

more cpu intensive

[little osprey]

unless you factor in ebay and facebook marketplace .....

cpu, maybe a 5 3600 or the intel equivalent would be better

i used to stream games and watch netflix while playing browser games on a 3600

at 1080p and 144hz max too

[atomic epoch]

thats cool

[fossil cedar]

You can't look at just in stock gpus especially 710 will do nothing

[little osprey]

ik

thats why i said thats all i can find in stock rn

[fossil cedar]

You want to get a gtx 1000 series or above for the envenc encoder

[little osprey]

he even said sooner is better

so thats why i specified in stock rn

[fossil cedar]

A 58/5900x would be better suited

[little osprey]

issue with 1000/2000 is that they are no longer produced, atleast 2000 series ik for a matter of fact

[fossil cedar]

They can get used tho

[little osprey]

so...good luck finding a decent priced one

[little osprey]

find a 2000 series used for under $800

i dont think so

software aint my thing

[fossil cedar]

Looks like there's still hope

[little osprey]

cause a 5800x, plus all the other compoments will leave very little wiggle room for a $800+ gpu with a 2000 budget

oops pinged wrong message

[fossil cedar]

Doable

[little osprey]

barely

[atomic epoch]

budget could be up to $2500

[fossil cedar]

You can get a 3060 for 500 from shuffle / best buy droos

[little osprey]

what best buy you at?

all 5 around me sell out instantly

and thats just in a 20 mile radius

also zotac dropping frequently

[fossil cedar]

Their online but it's doable

[little osprey]

ive been trying since they dropped and have had no luck. im there waiting as they get in stock. by the time i get to checkout theyre sold out

[fossil cedar]

Well shuffle then

[little osprey]

and now microcenter is no longer allowing nighly camping

you can begin a line 15 minutes before opening

[fossil cedar]

Tbh a 1650 would do fine you just need encoder

[little osprey]

miner gang here

[muted patio]

Are you serious right now???

[little osprey]

i guess

rules read no sell/advertising

technically you didnt advertise

i asked

[fossil cedar]

Might as well

[muted patio]

Not allowed either

[little osprey]

do you have any reason why you think sara should do it or are you just basing it off the idea "profit"

[little osprey]

sara didnt advertise

[muted patio]

Are you going to argue?

No buying or selling or anything.

[little osprey]

no, not arguing

[muted patio]

Thanks.

[muted patio]

You are. I said not allowed.

[fossil cedar]

Basically i mean might as well make an extra 6 dollars a day or so until it sells

[little osprey]

Please don't give that advice if you don't know the requirements to do that kinda stuff because if saras room is on a shared breaker and too much wattage is being pulled its not gonna work

[fossil cedar]

Ohh that's not a problem in europe my b

[little osprey]

no it is a problem in europe you just have to pull way more due to your standard being 240v

wouldnt a surge protector prevent major damage?

[little osprey]

its not damage

[little osprey]

also truth

its that it will turn off in seconds

[fossil cedar]

Ahh i see

[little osprey]

most that can happen is data corruption

also, my desktop just randomly shutoff and turned back on. should i be worried?

[fossil cedar]

Also at least in Ireland, each room is seprperated so not shared between rooms

[little osprey]

they still are wired through the same breaker though right? or does every room come with its own breaker box?

[fossil cedar]

Same breaker box but each room has a separate fuse

[little osprey]

breakers and breaker boxes are different

yeah

my house has one box, but each room SHOULD have its own fuse

again, should, whoever did the wiring did it randomly

why is my room and the fridge on the same fuse?

[fossil cedar]

Oof, well yeah to my knowledge each room has a separate breaker

[little osprey]

we're on opposite ends of the building

breaker and fuses are different

[fossil cedar]

Kitchens are supposed to have thicker cables n stuff so they can hold fridges, freezers ovens and dishwashers at same time tho

[little osprey]

room and fridge are on the same breaker and fuse, my room and living room are on same breaker but different fuse

[fossil cedar]

Weird

[little osprey]

yes, but only the fridge is paired with my whole room

[fossil cedar]

That's v weird

[little osprey]

yeah

i have a chart of what fuses go to what if you want to see

itll, make your brain hurt/ just as a disclaimer

[autumn aurora]

Newegg shuffle is a joke

[fossil cedar]

Darkens won about 6 times iirc

[stray rivet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHPdTJ is this an okay build?

[desert gulch]

dont go for that cpu

no hyperthreading

[stoic island]

it's old

[desert gulch]

yea

[stoic island]

looks like a 2 year old list

[desert gulch]

go like new stuff if you can

3700x is a great 8 core if you on a budget

[stoic island]

ehhhh

10700k I'd say

[stray rivet]

newer cpu and gpu needed?

[desert gulch]

if you can

do you already have that mobo?

[ancient wraith]

so yesterday i was having a issue with my games being fuzzy and blurry but i fiqured out its only certain games

what could it be

[stoic island]

motion blur?

[desert gulch]

i asked you if it was on all games and you said yes yesterday

[stray rivet]

no I have nothing at the moment

[stoic island]

list changing time then

[desert gulch]

then go like 10700k and z490

[stray rivet]

completely new everything

[desert gulch]

that whole list is bad imo

[ancient wraith]

i just noticed after i played some other games

and i have motion blur off

[stoic island]

I'll just critique on the basis of the list, old cpu, bad cooler, wacky storage setup, bad case, bit bad gpu, no need for that many fans, not good psu, the mic seems too expensive, keyboard might want a different option

[ancient wraith]

idek what it could be i have checked cables and used ddu

[desert gulch]

so basically the whole list lol

[stray rivet]

lmao

[desert gulch]

cables wouldnt cause it to only happen on some games

[ancient wraith]

ik

[stoic island]

hey I left the monitor alone

[stray rivet]

I just need a basic something for $2k

[ancient wraith]

so only games are warzone rust and tarkov

[desert gulch]

xD

[stoic island]

you can do a lot better assuming GPU at msrp for 2k

[desert gulch]

streaming? gaming?

what you wanna do with it?

[stray rivet]

can be upgraded later

[desert gulch]

bruh

[stray rivet]

streaming

[desert gulch]

ok

so 10700k and like 3080 prolly

[stoic island]

ryzen go make a build plz

[desert gulch]

oke

[stoic island]

prob 5600x+3080, plus a M27q

I gotta do other thingies

[desert gulch]

ok ill go do that

[stray rivet]

can a 3080 and 10700k really fit that budget?

[desert gulch]

ye

ill go 5600x tho

since 3080 will handle the stream mostly

you need wifi or no?

[stray rivet]

wow I thought a 3080 would be hella expensive right now

[desert gulch]

it is

unless you can find one near msrp

[stray rivet]

yeah wifi needed

[desert gulch]

ok

[exotic vault]

Guys

[stoic island]

basically, best buy is your best friend for msrp gpu

[exotic vault]

Whats the best Mouse pad ?

[stoic island]

depends heavily on yourself

[analog hearth]

that’s like asking what the best keeb switch is

depends on what you’re doing

[fossil cedar]

Well tbf you can get a 10700 for like 230 i believe

[fossil cedar]

As mr11 said depends but i like steelseries's QCK heavy line as i like my mousepads thick

[exotic vault]

and also should i get the 5 5600x or the i5 11600k?

[fossil cedar]

If you can fit 5600x in budget he's, if not get a 10400 or 1400

[stoic island]

qck is nice for thicc

[fossil cedar]

Unless you plan on overclocking

[stoic island]

I think the glorious ice and fire one is good for moderate

[fossil cedar]

I do enjoy thicc pads

Nice support for your arm imo

[desert gulch]

ok

so heres a list with a freezer ii aio

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wLzdTJ

could def go with air cooler if you wanted to save some money, altho freezer ii is rly pretty good value in aio land

[stray rivet]

that looks awesome

[desert gulch]

well what price are they compared to each other?

[desert gulch]

i didnt add in peripherals and stuff

thats more of a personal choice

[fossil cedar]

Can save money on mobo too by going atx and a wifi adapter if they need

[desert gulch]

bios flashback bruh

[stoic island]

@fossil cedar I'm using qck for now, maybe too heavy for me

[desert gulch]

that list has a 5600x on it

[stray rivet]

gotchya

[stoic island]

but I'm doing decently with it

just a bit tired

[desert gulch]

mr1 what you think of my list?

[fossil cedar]

But tbh the main bit i was saying was atx all the way, i went matx in a atx case and i regret

[stoic island]

I don't like the board for another board as you know ;)

[wide sparrow]

mmmmmmmm

[desert gulch]

whats a cheaper b550 with bios flashback?

[stoic island]

and considering you're over 2000$, I'd just grab like a se-224-xt and be done

[fossil cedar]

Fair all up to preference ofc

[stoic island]

@desert gulch smh the b550m pro vdh wifi

[desert gulch]

it actually has it?

[stoic island]

ya I'm saying it's heavy

[stoic island]

Didn't I tell you, or was it another guy that really liked the asus wifi board

[desert gulch]

prolly another guy

[fossil cedar]

It be like 6mm thiicccc r something yes lol

[desert gulch]

ill add that in real quick

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BYnhNP

[stoic island]

@desert gulch and this

[desert gulch]

alrighty

[fossil cedar]

May i ask why 32gb ram

[stoic island]

if the price doesn't go down enough, case can go to a p360a

[desert gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zrTxK3

its sub 2k

[stoic island]

there we go

[desert gulch]

streaming?

cant rly do that on 16gb well lmao

[stoic island]

streaming doesn't need it but

anyways

your choice, it fits in the budget

[fossil cedar]

Yeah doesn't

[desert gulch]

but i mean for a 3080 and 5600x streaming build

for that budget for a streaming rig 32gb just makes sense

[fossil cedar]

You'd be better off spending the money on an atx board imo can always upgrade ram

[desert gulch]

nothings wrong with that matx lol

[stoic island]

and also, no good atx boards with flashback anywhere near that price @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Ik but as someone who has a matx and could have gone atx it's deff a downgrade and hassle

[desert gulch]

ye

[fossil cedar]

Ahh fair

[desert gulch]

what featues are you missing rn then?

[stoic island]

cheapest atx board with flashback would be like, dunno, b550-a pro at 150$

40$ higher

is sad

[fossil cedar]

Well had to take out my Wifi bluetooth card cuz of my 3070 and only have access to one of my sata ports cuz even old just 2 slot gpu blocked them

[desert gulch]

sounds like just form factor isnt the issue, sounds like you got a crap board lol

[fossil cedar]

Board is okay but there's nowhere else to put them lol

[little osprey]

get a bigger case lmao

[desert gulch]

coulda got a board with wifi integrated

[fossil cedar]

Well the gpu thing is because new gpu is 2.5 slot

[little osprey]

and bigger board

[desert gulch]

.

[fossil cedar]

I have atx case

[desert gulch]

105$ for a b550 with wifi lol

[little osprey]

get a full size atx case

[fossil cedar]

I only want the Bluetooth on the card tho lol I'm plugged into ethernet

[little osprey]

get a usb then

they sell bluetooth usb receivers

[fossil cedar]

Already have, it's just a matx board

That's not the point I'm saying if i went atx i wouldn't have this problem

[desert gulch]

what board?

[fossil cedar]

B450m ds3h gigabyte

[little osprey]

thats a tiny board lmao even for a micro atx

[desert gulch]

coulda got one with wifi in it for a little more lol

[little osprey]

built in wifi comes with bluetooth as well fyi

[desert gulch]

ye

[fossil cedar]

Wasnt sure

[little osprey]

well know ya do

sell your current and get the wifi one

[fossil cedar]

And yes ik but when i built it i didn't need the Bluetooth but now it's nice to hsve

[desert gulch]

then why use the card

if its build into board

[fossil cedar]

It's not

When i built the pc i didn't need bluetooth

That's why i added the card after

But now it's nice to have because i acc have Bluetooth speakers/headphones I'd use from time to time with my pc

[little osprey]

some cards come with BT

ik corsair bt headset comes with its own receiver too

thats an option

[fossil cedar]

Not going to sell my mobo just to get a wifi board

[fossil cedar]

You're completely missing the point tbh

[desert gulch]

well we're just saying if you spent 7 bucks more, it wouldnt be a problem

[fossil cedar]

That's what i was saying but on a atx board and it was more like a 30 for atx and would have been 2x price for board with wifi i dont live in us btw

[desert gulch]

or 7 bucks more for something that would work fine but ye

[fossil cedar]

Well when you're paying 2x the price for the mobo for WiFi I'd rather not

[desert gulch]

not 2x but ye

%8.75 more

[fossil cedar]

As i said, i don't live in the us so it was 2x at the time

[desert gulch]

sus

[fossil cedar]

I looked at my options, my board was like 75 and the cheapest with wifi was like 150

[desert gulch]

if that was the case, you coulda gone atx and wifi card

but the matx we were putting in that list had wifi

which takes away the whole problem

[fossil cedar]

But there's other expansion cards lol

I was using wifi as example

[desert gulch]

they dont need any

they dontt need any more ports

they dont need a wifi card

they dont need a capture card

thats all you really can add in pcie slots

thats practical

[fossil cedar]

Just saying from experience

And they could add pcie storage or audio if they wanted

[stoic island]

can we just agree right now right here b550m pro-vdh wifi is a fair choice?

[desert gulch]

yes

[fossil cedar]

Yes

[stoic island]

nice

[desert gulch]

thats what im trying to explain lol

[fossil cedar]

Ik I'm saying for me i would have benefited going atx