#building-and-recc-chat

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flint sapphire
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Here’s what I’m working with atm

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When I upgrade my gpu eventually I’ll end up streaming... maybe 🤷‍♂️

hot warren
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Yoo, i like your set up better

flint sapphire
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No kids usual makes it a bit easier

desert gulch
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lol

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all that stimulus goes right into the setup right?

flint sapphire
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Nah upgraded the desk and the speakers

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And the monitor stand

hot warren
flint sapphire
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Lemme find a before quick, yessir

desert gulch
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this is my rig

flint sapphire
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Super small desk and clutter lol

desert gulch
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nothin crazy

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one monitor

flint sapphire
hot warren
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I got my desk from Amazon and it had a scratch so I messaged them and they gave me a refund and told me to keep the desk lol

desert gulch
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lol

flint sapphire
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Nice yeah I picked up that one for 90 bucks

hot warren
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For real let me see if I find the scratch lol

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Lol

flint sapphire
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Rip finish

desert gulch
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oof

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def worth the price lol

hot warren
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Lol

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I need to fix the temps in my pc tho

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Running two PC in one case gets toasty

flint sapphire
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Having some rad issues or need more fans?

desert gulch
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how hot on cpu and gpu?

hot warren
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I already got 16 fans in the case lol

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GPU stays cool

desert gulch
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damn

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how hot?

hot warren
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Below 39° on idle when gaming doesn't go past 45°

desert gulch
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on cpu?

hot warren
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The cpu is at 62-65° idle

flint sapphire
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That’s super high for aios

vapid bay
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that's kinda hot

desert gulch
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yeah cpu on high end

hot warren
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I was doing a windows update and it got to 80°

desert gulch
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mine doesnt hit over 55 even gaming

flint sapphire
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How’s the static pressure for yours fans?

hot warren
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Before when I had one system in the case high 65°

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Idle was 40

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I'm gonna move around some fans and see

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I might need a new case tho

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GPU is kinda close to the glass

flint sapphire
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Noctua is usually the way to go there’s a cheaper variant from thermal take.. tank? Idk

desert gulch
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arctic has rly good value fans imo

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p12 kinda best value rn imo

flint sapphire
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If you can find these in stock it’s a carbon copy for cheap

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Not quite as good tho

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@hot warren

hot warren
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Thanks bro

flint sapphire
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Np

frank stirrup
desert gulch
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i leave it all red usually

little osprey
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Can I send my pc part picker link

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I wanna know if it’s good

frank stirrup
little osprey
frank stirrup
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VERY overkill and a waste

autumn wolf
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dont need the h100i and you can probably find a cheaper board and ram

little osprey
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My uncle gave me it

autumn wolf
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whelp

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fairly dandy then, the ram you could switch out and find a cheaper board if you want and change the storage depending on your needs

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unless you want corsair mostly everything then the ram is fine and if you really wanna only use icue, then a strix card if possible though thats me being a bad influence

robust lake
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850w also not needed

autumn wolf
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ye, also not needed, could go lower

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unless you have that lying around

crisp drift
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Anyone have an idea how many rgb fans blocks and such I can run off one header? As of right now I have 8 to be installed

autumn wolf
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for the case you could also get a better one like a p400a or something

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for the fans themselves depends on the fans, some can daisy a decent amount and some cant. for the rgb itself, sometimes the rgb struggles through daisy chaining depending on the brand. but for the fans themselves you could just get a fan hub

frank stirrup
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Check that out

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much more bang for the buck

autumn wolf
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they already have the h100i and also no 212, bad

frank stirrup
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shouldnt have a problem with a 3600

autumn wolf
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well again, they already have the h100i and the 212 is bad for what it is now in this market

frank stirrup
little osprey
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Wait so to be clear what should I change

autumn wolf
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mobo, psu and case and maybe storage depending on your needs for storage

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actually, not even just for your needs, theres better/cheaper 1tb nvme's

frank stirrup
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There check that out

earnest olive
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why ryzen 5 3600

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why b450 board

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why 32gb ram

frank stirrup
frank stirrup
earnest olive
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b550...?

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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imagine paying $220 for a 3600

frank stirrup
earnest olive
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I mean you can make an argument for a $80 b450 board

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but not $115

stoic island
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Wait, why exactly does it have to be b450..?

earnest olive
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I'm really not a fan of the b450 tomahawk as someone who used to have one

stoic island
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Tomahawk max not good

earnest olive
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I upgraded for $25 and the difference was huge

stoic island
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:p

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Single m.2 NVMe

scenic turret
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Could of went 10400f or 11400f route ngl

earnest olive
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buying a ryzen 5 3600 for $220 is just full clown

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when 10400f can be had for literally half of that

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and b560 chipset exists

scenic turret
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Yep

stoic island
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Eh, might make some sense if they wanted 5900x or something

scenic turret
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Did they release benchmarks of 11400f yet?

little osprey
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geekbench yes

stoic island
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But b450 kills that purpose

earnest olive
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buying a b450 tomahawk max in 2021 isn't clown

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it's the whole circus

scenic turret
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Lol

stoic island
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It was a bad board the time it came out tbh

earnest olive
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when $110 gets you a b560m pro4/ac

stoic island
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B450m Tuf pro back then

earnest olive
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and b550m pro-vdh wifi exists for am4

stoic island
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Yes

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Tomahawk max doesn't have wifi so you can go cheaper

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Like pg4 is sometimes cheaper

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Pro4

earnest olive
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I bought b450 tomahawk max because I was new to pcs and all the youtubers were hyping it

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I have no idea why every youtuber was hyping it

stoic island
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VRMs

stoic island
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Were decent

earnest olive
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I sold it for $125 and bought b550 aorus elite for $150

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insane how much better than b550 aorus elite is

stoic island
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Aorus elite op

earnest olive
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in every possible way

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best $25 I ever spent towards pc

stoic island
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Lol

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I really like aorus elite ax

earnest olive
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even the onboard audio was way more difference than I expected

stoic island
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Ofc

earnest olive
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I didn't think I'd be able to tell much of a difference

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but wow

stoic island
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It's like alc887 against alc1220

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Msi tend to use lower end chips in lower end boards

earnest olive
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yeah

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even z490-a pro has some lower end chip

scenic turret
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K what's with the -A naming scheme being the "low end," I keep seeing varying issues and rumors

stoic island
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Eh

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Not completely

scenic turret
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Like I don't why I'm seeing this on Reddit but ppl are claiming any B550-A or Z490-a boards are "bad"

stoic island
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MSI low end x570 just screwed up with VRMs

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But b550-a isn't bad

earnest olive
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z490a-pro is good for price as well

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I pushed a 10700K to 5.5GHz on it

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can't be that low end

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vrms handled 300W cpu no problem

stoic island
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earnest olive
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the cooler stumbled before the board

stoic island
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Also I swear I could do timestamps on mobile before

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But I can't find it now

earnest olive
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and it was a 360mm aio

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with 2 extra exhaust fans and no dgpu

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the only problem with the z490-a pro is the sound chip

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everything else very solid for price

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well I didn't try ram oc cause I didn't get paid to but 3600 xmp no issue

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and the sound chip not bad either just not premium

scenic turret
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Yea that reaffirms my thoughts. Like I hate seeing these "so called techies" now and then trash talking -A boards

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Thx guys for the reclarifications

earnest olive
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probably parroting XOCers without actually having experience with the board

scenic turret
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Lol probably

stoic island
earnest olive
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if it can handle 300W CPU

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it's not a bad board

stoic island
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C might sound bad until you consider that every asrock board with a rating is C or below overall

earnest olive
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z490-a pro was the best bang for the buck z490 board

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b560 kinda dethroned it

stoic island
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It was/is

earnest olive
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well it still is

stoic island
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If OCing is taken into consideration

earnest olive
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but b560 makes z490 less value option

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especially considering it seems b560 boards may support the new intel boost algo

stoic island
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(value with 11600k kinda thing)

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Did they make another thermal velocity boost thing

earnest olive
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if you can get 5.1ghz all core boost on b560 then oc is not a big deal

stoic island
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If you can boost like that, no reason for OCing for consumers lol

earnest olive
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I saw something about b560m aorus board pushing 11900k to 5.1ghz all core

stoic island
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Whew

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I mean, it is now just a good bin 8 core chip now

earnest olive
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well in the context of boards vrm doesn't care about core count

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11900k can use same power as 10900k

stoic island
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(I mean hitting it with silicon/boost alg)

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Not on the vrm part

earnest olive
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yeah I wonder if 11700ks will be bad bins

stoic island
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GN Waste of sand rating

scenic turret
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^best title

earnest olive
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imagine buying 11700k and losing silicon lottery and you can't even hit 4.9ghz

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average 10700k hitting 5.1 on daily stable voltages

stoic island
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I'd be interested to see silicon lottery data once they get enough chips

earnest olive
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yeah it will be very very interesting to see 11700k vs 11900k binning

stoic island
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Actually now that I think about it

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Does silicon lottery still do binning stuff?

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I don't think they did anything on Zen 3

earnest olive
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not sure but they had 10th gen binning

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maybe they could not find enough zen 3 stock

stoic island
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I wonder if they stopped or they couldn't get enough

earnest olive
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prob just not enough high end zen 3 cpus

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5900x 5950x still have stock issues

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5600x 5800x are the ones improving

stoic island
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@earnest olive hm, they've actually never tested Zen 2 chips

earnest olive
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man I am so excited for my 5600x to arrive

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well

stoic island
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5600x sounds pog

earnest olive
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manual oc zen 2 is pretty pointless for most users

stoic island
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They offered delided zen 2 chips and still don't have binning data on them >:(

earnest olive
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and most of the users that benefit from manual oc zen 2 probably want stock stability more than a few % more perf anyways

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production/servers

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isn't delidding zen 2 also pretty meme

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considering it's soldered chip

stoic island
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Dunno

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I know they sold Zen 2 chips as a service, they usually delid, maybe they didn't delid zen 2

earnest olive
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unless you wanna go LM direct die

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then maybe you can get some benefit

stoic island
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Why direct die when you can directly cool the pins Oh_No

earnest olive
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why cool it when you can just turn it off

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0W heat generation

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0C delta T over ambient

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man I am so smart it hurts sometimes

stoic island
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Bro

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It's got insulation, it's going to be 1c delta T over ambient smh

earnest olive
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just cut fins into the die

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imagine the heat dissipation

stoic island
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@earnest olive checked with waybackmachine, they offered Zen 2 chips, binned, but don't have testing on Zen 2 binning smh

stoic island
earnest olive
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guess they just chose not to release stats

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cpu should just come with ln2 stock cooler

stoic island
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Evga roboclocker for everyone

earnest olive
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yes for grandma's office pc

cursive kernel
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Looking at a new psu, should I get a Corsair cxf or rmx?aside from power rating, I’m unsure of what the difference is

little osprey
robust lake
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Looking decet i would change cpu cooler and psu im not sure if this model is good need to check

fossil cedar
frank stirrup
fossil cedar
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M.2 is the form factor

frank stirrup
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linked the wrong wd m.2

golden forge
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So I build my own pc's, but out of curiosity, are there businesses that build the pc for you? For example, you compile a list on pcpartpicker and you send the supplies to them and you pay them to build it for you/ship it. I'm not talking about Digital Storm or NZXT. Micro center sort of has this, but anyone else?

fossil cedar
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Not unless you find an individual i guess

frank stirrup
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Linked the correct m.2 drive this time

fossil cedar
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The 10850k is an absolute deal especially in Europe

sharp tundra
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@frank stirrup why don't you get a 5600x? Cheaper and I assume all you're gonna be doing on this pc is gaming, then you you could upgrade your m.2 to 1tb, and you could probably find a higher-end case or psu

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@golden forge that's what I plan on doing once I get started, it's risky business though for the builder, unless you send the parts your self and buy them yourself before hand, like you want to do.

uncut pelican
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^

sharp tundra
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Otherwise, the buyer wants the pc in hand before they pay, and if you finish buying all the parts, and they then decide they don't want to go through with it anymore, then you as the builder is out how ever much pc cost.

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Some get around this by asking for a service fee and percentage of the supply fee. Say I charge $75 for service, 10% part markup, and require 25% down(after markup) then it relieves the stress a little, incase that person wants a $2000 pc, I still get $775 to partially cover what I lost.

frank stirrup
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Guy had that as his cpu. I just edited other parts around it

tough kettle
frank stirrup
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@sharp tundra

tough kettle
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that unit is already one of the better units out there

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I don't see why he would want to get anything better than that

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especially when it's not even needed

frank stirrup
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^

fossil cedar
# tough kettle especially when it's not even needed

They don't know what they talking about tbh, they recommended 5600x instead of 10850k even if you don't need the cores in games it's going to make anything else you do a lot smoother and means your cpu has longer lifespan

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But tbf idk how trustworthy adata psu's are

sharp tundra
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I know he said he wants to play other games too, but main game is minecraft I bet, now I respect the 3080 decision, just not 10 core intel chip, it's unnecessary for gaming, and I would even go as for to say it's even a little much for streaming.

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And the reason I said psu, is because you could get an 850watt plat, or even better, no need to cheap out on a psu, and I would've said ram, but since it wasn't on the list, I figured he already had it or something

vapid bay
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hmmmmm

sharp tundra
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We're talking about your pc

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Well, kinda

vapid bay
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no?

sharp tundra
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Oh wait, sorry the names were so similar

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Ofir

vapid bay
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owh kekw

sharp tundra
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
sharp tundra
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In 3-4 years, we're gonna have different sockets and both of those chips will be irrelevant anyways

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What's your point

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
little osprey
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game developers and the works aren't gonna optimize for CPUs with more cores

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if they don't need to

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the only place where that might give a reasonable boost in performance is cyberpunk

sharp tundra
fossil cedar
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They're gonna utilitse more cores in newer games most likely

sharp tundra
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I9 will still be around

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But 10th gen will not be

little osprey
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the majority of games will still be using 6 or less

fossil cedar
little osprey
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i can read

sharp tundra
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Cod mw probably only uses like 4 cores

little osprey
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MW is dog

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horrible optimization

fossil cedar
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And if you're getting a 3080 you should be getting an i9 or i7 with it

sharp tundra
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Just for reference

little osprey
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my 5900x has more cores than any 10th or 11th gen CPU

little osprey
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best gaming perf currently

fossil cedar
little osprey
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Why?

potent portal
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11600k would do quite nicely, most games are GPU bound right now even in 1080p

little osprey
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the only i9 currently out for a good price is 10850k

fossil cedar
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Because you'll get smoother frame times etc

little osprey
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what

vapid bay
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i9 = ryzen 7 kekw

sharp tundra
fossil cedar
sharp tundra
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Unless you mean perfermance

potent portal
vapid bay
fossil cedar
little osprey
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nah

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5600x still has way better single than 10850k

sharp tundra
potent portal
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5600X is more than sufficient for any GPU, even looking at 1% low frames

fossil cedar
little osprey
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if you're ONLY gaming/streaming 5600x if you're trying to save a ton of money

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???????????

fossil cedar
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But they're spending 2 grand

sharp tundra
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And also @fossil cedar you didn't add ram to that build, what's up with that?

potent portal
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If they're spending that much why are you even recommending Intel? They're the budget option right now

sharp tundra
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Right?

fossil cedar
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Because imo 10850k over 5600x

vapid bay
little osprey
fossil cedar
vapid bay
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almost 3 grand da_heck

little osprey
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2000 pounds??

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what

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thats 5800x minimum

sharp tundra
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2000 pound pc

fossil cedar
potent portal
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The 10850k is currently $380 and is beaten by the 5600X in many games

sharp tundra
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That's heavy

little osprey
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10850k vs 5600x is only a valid argument if you live near a microcenter

rain fractal
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Hmm, is a Ryzen 7 3800x good for like COD warzone?

little osprey
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do you have the 3800x?

rain fractal
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Yep

little osprey
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yeah

sharp tundra
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Then yes

potent portal
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If you have it already that'll be fine for a while

rain fractal
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So I have Ryzen 7 3800x and Asus TUF GTX 1650 super

vapid bay
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wow

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that's nice

sharp tundra
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Quite the pair

rain fractal
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thank you

little osprey
rain fractal
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My cousin in Vietnam build computers so he knows a lot

sharp tundra
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Ask him if a 10850k is better than a 5600x

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Lol

vapid bay
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gtx 1650S is a budget card.....

sharp tundra
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That's the real test

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For gaming might I add

vapid bay
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maybe they just gave u the last gpu they can get kekw

sharp tundra
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Nah, his cousin had 3 3090s, 6 3080s and 10 3070s sitting in the closet, he just didn't want to give em up.

sharp tundra
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Never gonna turn around?

vapid bay
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and desert you?

rain fractal
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like a 3070

vapid bay
potent portal
vapid bay
sharp tundra
vapid bay
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i also got it from here so i didn't hesitate

vapid bay
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smh the rickroll can't play smoothly

sharp tundra
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Anybody interested in the Volkswagen rebranding?

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They will be called Voltswagen

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Not even kidding

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I gotta say guys with all these vehicle manufacturers wanting to be carbon neutral and create an electric car market, you better get all the LiPo and LiIon batteries while you still can, cause there isn't enough Lithium on earth for it to be used then disposed of like that.

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Yeah, I didn't think it was that interesting either

dim oracle
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ASUS ROG STRIX Z590-E GAMING WIFI LGA 1200 Intel Z590 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard

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Rosewill PHOTON Series 850W Full Modular Gaming Power Supply, 80 PLUS Gold Certified, Single +12V Rail, SLI & Crossfire Ready - Photon-850

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Intel Core i9-10850K Comet Lake 10-Core 3.6 GHz LGA 1200 125W Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630 - BX8070110850K

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CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 DRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMW32GX4M4C3200C16

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Western Digital WD Blue SN550 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS100T2B0C

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Windows 10 Pro 64-bit - OEM

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Current Video Card that I will be reusing MSI GEFORCE GTX 1060 6G

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Hello second build here. Just wondering if anyone can look at this and either give me helpful advice if I should change anything on this. I am at about $1300. Not sure if there are any components that will give me more bang for my buck. Thanks for any advice

viral ore
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yeah, use pc part picker

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other than that it looks alright, im not sure about the psu tho

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also any specific reason for 32gb of ram?

muted patio
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PSU is Tier B, depends on price tho.

dim oracle
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just want to go big on the ram so it makes my pc last a year or two longer. My builds usually last me for 6 or 7 years By 2030 everyone will probably have 128 norm

viral ore
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understandable

fossil cedar
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You can always get 16gb then add another 16 but that's fair

dim oracle
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probably have to upgrade the Video card first.....they are ridiculous

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the one I have I bought for 299 they are 700 now and that was a couple of years ago

tough kettle
fossil cedar
tough kettle
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it's A but I don't go by that

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a unit for the cool boys

fossil cedar
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Fair enough if it's an A tier thats fine then

muted patio
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The 12V rail load regulation on that PSU is meh

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For $150 there are better units on the market

tough kettle
uncut pelican
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I can't install streamlabs 😐 i had it installed but it uninstlled itself and now i can install it again

tough kettle
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if we were to cherry pick practically anything, no one could have finalized on a PSU

muted patio
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$150 is too much for a 750W PSU especially for that kind of 12V rail regulation

tough kettle
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you are really converting pounds to USD

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also to factor in

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that PSU is the cheapest actual good unit

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after that it's Bitfenix Formula gold

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TXM and Core GM are worse than reactor so those don't count

little osprey
balmy patio
dim oracle
wanton cliff
vapid bay
night storm
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I ordered my kid a OMEN 30L Desktop - GT13-0395xt should that be good enough?

rocky rover
vapid bay
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it should click if u pushed it enough

rocky rover
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it’s not clicking

vagrant olive
night storm
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Did you insert the correct side first

vapid bay
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owh

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@rocky rover flip it the other way

rocky rover
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got it

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i wasn’t clicking hard enough

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pushing it in hard enough

vapid bay
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owh lol

muted patio
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yeah, it can take some uncomfortable force lol

rocky rover
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hahah fr

runic sky
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Hey all, have question about power supply. This is my build, just waiting on the GPU to be delivered. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LLZ6gt. PCPP rates the power requirements well under the 750 I've got spec'd but wanted to confirm since I think I read someone said with the 6900xt, it's recommended to use an 850?

rocky rover
night storm
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Looking good

vapid bay
rocky rover
vapid bay
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msi b450m pro vdh wifi?

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or b550m?

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owh b450 i think

runic sky
tribal coral
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its b550

muted patio
rocky rover
vapid bay
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ah yes it was written to it

runic sky
vapid bay
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didn't see it well. too blurry on this one kekw

brittle tinsel
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Does anyone else have they Arctic liquid freezer?

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I don’t know what the pump should sound like and don’t know if mine is working,

olive kraken
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I can get a 5600x for 350 on a newegg seller instead of the 370 on amazon seller

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Stonkss

vapid bay
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should AIOs really make sound?

lament kiln
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Still 50 more than msrp 😭

olive kraken
vapid bay
lament kiln
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True, I just have something against paying over msrp

vapid bay
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kek

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pay for gpu kekw

olive kraken
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Well then I suppose you wont be buying any PC components in a few years

olive kraken
vapid bay
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weak

olive kraken
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but i got it tho

vapid bay
#

3060 non ti here sells for $950

olive kraken
#

i didnt get it off scalper

#

i got it off newegg deal

vapid bay
#

ooh that's nice

olive kraken
#

750usd for combo 3060ti and psu

still roostBOT
#
GreanKitten#6111 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

olive kraken
#

oof

vapid bay
#

i just want a $200 1650S tbh

lament kiln
#

O crap forgot about that already yikes

olive kraken
#

Yeah 1650 would be nice

vapid bay
#

could find tho it'd be hard to catch coz i ain't funded yet

lament kiln
#

It hurts to see

olive kraken
#

I am prolly going to sell my 3060ti as soon as I get me hands on a 3080

#

3060ti can't put out 1440p 165fps

lament kiln
#

I have a 2070 super, but I'm trying to get a 3070

vapid bay
#

wait for 3070ti

lament kiln
#

Going to give my friend who's trying to build a pc god rest their soul my 2070 if I can get it

olive kraken
#

remember when pple were selling 2080tis for 500usd

#

baited themselves

lament kiln
#

Lol the calm before the storm

balmy patio
#

lmao

#

cheap 2080ti

vapid bay
#

i remember when someone is willing to lend their 980ti to me

balmy patio
#

that would've been nice

olive kraken
# balmy patio cheap 2080ti

Let's see how much one of those goes for rn LOL. literal definitions of taking out your stocks when u go -5% and then seeing as they go +100%

vapid bay
#

not nice coz it's been 2-3 weeks since that

restive violet
#

Hi! I have a 1200w PSU. Which UPS should I get (power rating in VA)?

lament kiln
#

Wonder how much a very lightly used 2070 super goes for rn

#

Might sell it and get a used car lol

sharp bear
#

How important is a 2k Monitor/ Does it effect the performance ?

vapid bay
#

it's just someting that's 1440p too

restive violet
vapid bay
#

it's just resolution

muted patio
vapid bay
#

if u have a high-end card then a 1440p monitor would prob be important

sharp bear
#

@vapid bay 3070 would need 1440p

restive violet
little osprey
muted patio
restive violet
#

I see. Thank you so much!

vapid bay
#

just triple a games u won't get that high fps on high settings

#

but yea it's a decent card for 1440p gaming

muted patio
#

It's a GREAT card for 1440p gaming

#

Goes well with my 165hz monitor

sharp bear
#

ASUS TUF Gaming VG279Q1A 27 Zoll Full-HD Gaming Monitor (1 ms, 165 Hz)

brittle tinsel
#

Do I use #1 or #2 for 3900x?

sharp bear
brittle tinsel
muted patio
#

#2

brittle tinsel
#

Thank you sooo much ❤️

sharp bear
#

@elfin flame bad ?

#

basic photo editing + streaming + games

muted patio
#

1080p at 27" can look slightly pixellated because pixel density is low

sharp bear
#

300 for monitor

vapid bay
#

if u could save more, Gigabyte M27Q

sharp bear
#

20 more but that would be max

sharp bear
vapid bay
#

oh i just want u to look at the monitor

#

not buy in newegg exactly

sharp bear
#

oh yes

desert gulch
#

their dead pixel return warranty is crappy

#

you have to have dead pixels in a row horizontal or vertical

vapid bay
#

hmm i see

desert gulch
#

so your whole monitor could be checkerboard of dead pixels

vapid bay
desert gulch
#

and they wouldnt replace it

vapid bay
#

what about odyssey g5

#

tbh idk much abut 1440p monitors

#

hardware for it is too much for me kekw

cold sorrel
#

Don't look like there's a shuffle today 😦

vapid bay
#

27gl850?

ancient crown
#

I use my xsx on it for 1440p ,
As my gpu in my pc is too weak to take advantage. But it looks great and haven't had any issues with it

sharp bear
#

i see

vapid bay
#

g27qc has almost the same price as m27q

#

370-ish

olive kraken
#

I love it myself

#

GIGABYTE M27Q 27

#

I got it, newegg deal for 300usd

fossil cedar
#

Can you really notice the difference tho at something like 24 inches?

desert gulch
#

24 inch 1080p is pretty good imo

#

even on my 27 inch 1080p i cant see pixels

#

and i dont sit crazy far away either

olive kraken
#

I dont think you could at 24 inch

#

I wouldnt know since I went from 1080 27" to 1440p 27"

#

Idl what the refresh rate of the old g27q is but It is definetly not 170

#

also it doesn't have the kvm feature which I consider to be very very useful

fossil cedar
#

Just didn't know, never seen anything that's 1440p apart from tvs in shops

olive kraken
#

yah

night iron
#

Where was that picture taken? @little osprey That’s a lot of GPUS in stock at that store.

olive kraken
#

I saw a few videos from steve indicating that highly tuned memory with a good mobo could squeeze out a bit of performance. But just for ease of mind, since those numbers were very rarely double digit and recorded on 1440p I should expect an even lower advantage at 1440p since we become more gpu bound correct?

#

I dont want to buy all my parts and then go oh if I had done this for x more money I would've gotten a better experience

ancient crown
#

I feel.that way regardless cause there's a newer and better product like every year

ancient crown
#

Kek

olive kraken
#

Also I am just saying that because I plan on using this setup through all of college so a good 3-5 years

#

so I want it to be at 110% from day one so that when it starts to break down I can lower it to 105% etc. etc. ( by break down I mean when it becomes less stable for whatever reason etc)

brittle tinsel
#

How do I boot into my old hard drive or is that possible?

#

It’s from a different computer

muted patio
#

Eh, probs not possible if you've got all new hardware and didn't do any prep work beforehand like uninstalling drivers.

brittle tinsel
muted patio
#

I know

brittle tinsel
#

If I install windows onto my boot drive, will it erase the data on those drives?

muted patio
#

ON whatever drive you install to, yes.

brittle tinsel
#

The boot drive is just an empty 250gb ssd

#

I think it’s empty it was unopened from Amazon

muted patio
#

In that case, WIndow install won't touch any other drives

#

To be safe

#

Make sure it'st he ONLY drive installed in the system when you install WIndows, lest you click the wrong drive on accident

brittle tinsel
#

I know the name/number it shows under in the bios, would it be the same?

#

Also is 40’c normal for the bios with Arctic aio

muted patio
#

Not in the WIndows install

#

It will just show as Disk 1, Disk2, etc

#

Whatever header the AI pump is plugged into, make sure it's at 100%

brittle tinsel
#

The pump is running abit over 1500 rpm

#

I don’t know what is normal for the Arctic aios

muted patio
#

SHould be closer to 3K I think

#

Most do

#

Set it to 100% in the BIOS. If you have an AIO pump header, plug it in there, most are set to 100% by default

brittle tinsel
#

No pump header

#

For some reason

muted patio
#

Pump fan? What motherboard

brittle tinsel
#

Msi mag b550 tomahawk

#

It’s a 36v hesder

muted patio
#

3A 36W

#

Just set it to 100%

brittle tinsel
#

How exactly?

muted patio
#

BIOS - Hardware Monitor is what the manual says

brittle tinsel
#

In the bios I clicked set all to full speed but it’s still 1500rpm

muted patio
#

Check the curve in the BIOS HARDWARE section

brittle tinsel
#

According to Arctic site the pump only runs from 800 - 2000 rpm

muted patio
#

Ok

#

Just make sure the curve reflects the 100% speed

brittle tinsel
#

The smart technology is turned off

#

So it’s all at 100% speeds

muted patio
#

This. make sure it's a straight line and not a curve

brittle tinsel
#

Also my ssd is plugged into sata 5 will it show as disk 5?

muted patio
#

No

brittle tinsel
muted patio
#

Well, that's going to be noisy LOL!

brittle tinsel
#

It’s not really loud at all

muted patio
#

I'd just set the AIO pump to 100% and then the fans to whatever you'd like.

brittle tinsel
#

My air conditioner (window unit) blocks out the noise

muted patio
#

For installing windows, just leave the drive you want it installed to plugged in. Unless it's the only 250GB drive, then it's easy there too

brittle tinsel
#

Yeah it’s the only 250gb

#

I have a 250, and 500gb ssd

#

So it will show up as 250?

muted patio
#

IN that case, it will show during install as the only 250GB drive so just click carefully.

brittle tinsel
#

Or whatever windows translations

#

thanks again bro, your always the most helpful person on here, it’s what keeps me around 😉

muted patio
#

YW

#

I just happen to be around when you're asking questions XD

earnest olive
#

I simp for vintage

desert gulch
#

now hes busy with work and stuff

earnest olive
#

sad

brittle tinsel
muted patio
#

lol

desert gulch
#

vintage has many many simps

viral ore
desert gulch
brittle tinsel
#

Where do I download the windows thing from for my usb?

wanton cliff
#

^thats the download link for 20H2

brittle tinsel
#

20h2?

wanton cliff
#

just a version of windows

brittle tinsel
wanton cliff
#

what are you clicking it on?

#

cause I just tested the link

brittle tinsel
#

Windows pc using chrome

#

It takes me to the windows main page

wanton cliff
#

werid

brittle tinsel
#

Nvm I clicked it a third time and now it is downloading

wanton cliff
#

well here

brittle tinsel
#

Weird

wanton cliff
#

huh

balmy root
#

i used it on my pc

wanton cliff
#

yeah

#

i know

#

file wasnt downloading for him for some reason

balmy root
#

oh

wanton cliff
#

you dont need an activation key anyways

balmy root
#

exactly

stoic island
#

It's nice to have

balmy root
#

ive been using my pc without windows for 1-2 years now

stoic island
#

Regedit annoying

brittle tinsel
#

My old pc says my windows key is linked to my Microsoft Account sooo

wanton cliff
#

no need for activation key

brittle tinsel
#

It was a prebuilt that came activated with win 10 pro

#

I didn’t order it like that lol just came

wise sorrel
desert gulch
#

cheaper psu for sure

#

300 for a 850 is high

balmy patio
#

it should at most cost $200

earnest olive
#

that is insanely expensive for a 240mm aio

desert gulch
#

yeah

earnest olive
#

costs more than every 360mm aio I've bought

wise sorrel
#

Don't go by the prices on the list. I have all the parts

balmy patio
#

valid

wise sorrel
#

I actually for the psu for 160

#

From a buddy

desert gulch
#

not horrible

balmy patio
#

it looks good then

earnest olive
#

your build seems overbuilt for a 3070

desert gulch
#

yeah

#

5600x would do great for one

wise sorrel
#

3070 wasn't my aim its what I ended up with

earnest olive
#

looks like a 3090 build at the minimum

desert gulch
#

mhmm

wanton cliff
#

glacier one is for sure overpriced but benches show good perf

#

not worth price tho

earnest olive
#

5900x + se-224-xt probably wins kek

wise sorrel
#

I got it to go with my phanteks case. I'm glad it's performance is good though lol

#

I'm going for the white build look. But limited gpus force me into the 3070 that I won from the shuffle

earnest olive
#

idk my 3080 is bottlenecking my 3600x

#

and I'm at a lower res than you are

desert gulch
#

but then again your 3600x is insanely good

earnest olive
#

not really

stoic island
#

@wise sorrel what exactly are you planning to do with the PC?

earnest olive
#

it's like a silver sample

desert gulch
#

better than average for sure

wise sorrel
#

Gaming/streaming/maybe passive mining.

earnest olive
#

ehh

stoic island
#

Uh

earnest olive
#

it can only do 4.2ghz all core manual oc

stoic island
#

Definitely overbuilt..

wise sorrel
#

I'm actually going to look to go back to school for game design though also

stoic island
#

How much of it do you have?

wise sorrel
#

All of it.

earnest olive
#

yeah I feel like you spent $1000 more than you should have

stoic island
#

Eh

wise sorrel
#

The 3070 just got shipped from newegg though

earnest olive
#

at 3440x1440 you can definitely pair that 3070 with a 10400f and see zero performance loss compared to a 5800x

stoic island
#

It's not bad, but budget allocation could've been better

desert gulch
#

mhm

wise sorrel
#

I was actually thinking of upping to a 5900

stoic island
#

Oh wait I just read the first message again

desert gulch
#

coulda done a 10700f and 3080 build tbh with better budgeting

wise sorrel
#

I'm staying amd

desert gulch
#

oke

stoic island
#

I thought you meant need advice with changing the list

desert gulch
#

intel is insanely good for budget rn just saying

earnest olive
#

your build is over 50% more expensive than my 3080 build

desert gulch
#

5800x just way overpriced for what you get

wise sorrel
#

Nah just opinions. This is my 1st build

stoic island
#

@wise sorrel but as a side note, 5900x gains you no performance over 5800x in gaming with 3070

desert gulch
#

yeah

#

3070 is bottleneck here

wise sorrel
#

I plan to try obtain a 3090 at some point

#

A white 3090 strix is my endgame. Buttttt we all know the gpu issues at the moment lol

desert gulch
#

dont get 3090 just for gaming

earnest olive
#

at 3440x1440 the 5900x would be 0 gain over a 10400f

desert gulch
#

3090 is like a 3080 but better for workstation

earnest olive
#

hell probably even an r5 1600

desert gulch
#

not much gaming perf increase 3080 to 3090

earnest olive
#

with a 3070

wise sorrel
#

Hmmm that's good to know

stoic island
#

No

#

1600 wack

earnest olive
#

3090 mining efficiency is pretty bad

stoic island
#

Imc crap

earnest olive
#

well yes but it's a 3070 at 3440x1440

#

targeting like 60 fps

stoic island
#

The lows would hurt

#

I thought it was a 144hz panel?

wise sorrel
#

Again I'm thinking of going into game design for schooling so does the 3080 3090 make a difference

earnest olive
#

I would go 10400f

#

the 3070 is not gonna push 3440x1440 100 fps in modern games

#

maybe some but not all

#

definitely would have to drop settings

stoic island
#

Well, stuff like unity likes CPU power for the calculations, some gpu power for actually rendering things.

#

Eh

#

Depends on which games

wise sorrel
#

So go for a 3080 then?

desert gulch
#

yeah

stoic island
#

Ofc no cp2077

muted patio
#

Pushes 120+ in everything I throw at it, RTX excluded, of course

earnest olive
#

at 3440x1440?

#

that's a lot more pixels than normal 1440p

stoic island
muted patio
#

Not a whole lot more.

#

I mean, I'm 140+ in most games at 1440p

wise sorrel
#

3080 vs 3090?

muted patio
#

I'd expect 100-120 at the increased res

stoic island
#

3080

wise sorrel
#

K

earnest olive
#

I am also speaking future facing perf

stoic island
#

3090 gets like 10% gain in performance for double the price

earnest olive
#

nobody invests 3k into a pc to use it for a few months

#

ok well

stoic island
#

Eh

earnest olive
#

maybe some really rich people

stoic island
#

You never know what will go on in the future

wanton cliff
#

iirc

#

development

stoic island
#

Nothing else that matters

#

Unity and such don't really care as long as the gpu is decent

earnest olive
#

3090 is a meme if you don't do ML or stuff like that

wise sorrel
#

Gaming, streaming, passive mining, video game design

stoic island
#

Unless you're throwing blender at it all day or something

stoic island
#

No good gain

earnest olive
#

3090 mining efficiency is pretty low

stoic island
#

Ya

#

ROI would take forever

desert gulch
#

only thing 3090 is good for is flexxing

#

is big flex on other ppl

wanton cliff
#

is the 11400f better than the 10400f?

desert gulch
#

i think its same apu

stoic island
#

No benches yet afaik

earnest olive
#

tuned 3090 is like 375 kh/w

desert gulch
#

wait

#

im dumb

#

lol

#

wont 11400 be uhd 630 tho?

earnest olive
#

3070M can do almost 600 kh/w

#

only 11500+ gets xe

desert gulch
#

sad

earnest olive
#

weird segmentation

#

but intel is the king of weird segmentation

desert gulch
#

how much more is 11500 over 11400?

earnest olive
#

like $30 I think

desert gulch
#

not bad tbh

#

for getting a better apu

#

and prolly a tiny bit better cpu

earnest olive
#

when will amd release 4600g and 4700g to diy

#

smh

desert gulch
#

smh

stoic island
#

They are

#

But not US

#

Asian market chip

wise sorrel
#

Is the 6900xt watercooled a good choice over the 3070

earnest olive
#

pure raster yes

#

if you care about rt no

stoic island
#

But it's also very expensive

earnest olive
#

6900xt rt on loses really hard to 3060 rt on in cyberpunk

stoic island
#

Hybrid 6900xt starts at like 1300$

wise sorrel
#

So stick with the nvidia

earnest olive
#

only if you care about rt

#

rt is basically nonexistent on radeon

wise sorrel
#

What does rt accomplish? I'm a noob to this

stoic island
#

Ray tracing

earnest olive
#

fancy lighting at the cost of fps

#

some people care about it

#

I don't

#

it's basically unplayable on radeon though

wise sorrel
#

Oh that's good to know.

#

My next big game I plan to start my streaming with and will have this pc with is RE8

#

So I want the performance the best

desert gulch
#

m.2 mechanical disk drive

#

m.2 form factor 3.5 inch hdd

balmy patio
#

😳

earnest olive
#

a hdd just hanging off of the tiny m.2 slot

#

b r e a k

desert gulch
#

yes

brittle tinsel
#

Is it normal for the first boot to take soooo long before getting to windows?

stoic island
#

Yes

#

First boot always slow

#

memory training, normal windows things, etc

brittle tinsel
#

It took for ever to get to first time setup now it’s taking for ever to get into windows

#

My ssd and hdds should be gpt or mbr?

muted patio
#

GPT

#

FOr Windows boot drive

brittle tinsel
#

What’s the diff?

muted patio
#

GPT is UEFI boot

#

MBR is legacy boot

brittle tinsel
#

Windows is on ssd already

#

The 250gb

brittle tinsel
muted patio
#

GPT is fine

little osprey
#

wow i impressed 11400 performance

#

it performs same as 5600 on 1080p 🤔

sonic pasture
#

Anyone know any good gaming laptops probably going to be using it for Val, Minecraft and csgo? Right now I heard some one say g14 and was wondering is there any better ones

peak compass
#

Gaming laptops are housefire starters

#

Not literally but I would just get a itx pc if you need it to be portable

sonic pasture
#

Lmao how is that portable

peak compass
#

...

#

It is tho

sonic pasture
#

Bruh wouldn’t I have to bring a monitor with me

peak compass
#

Yes

#

But

#

well

sonic pasture
#

haha

peak compass
#

you got me on that one

sonic pasture
#

Yeah

ancient crown
#

Not if you make a monitor case combo

peak compass
#

So whats your budget

little osprey
#

I personally like asus rog series laptops but I dont have much knowledge about laptops

sonic pasture
#

1200-1500

golden forge
peak compass
#

ok

sonic pasture
#

I think I will try to find out through YouTube videos or something

little osprey
#

let me quck list some you should check them out

little osprey
#

razer blade 15 ofc thats one of best

#

asus tuf a15

#

I love asus rog strix scar 17

peak compass
little osprey
#

I know lol

sonic pasture
#

He was just naming some

little osprey
#

and Asus ROG Zephyrus ofc

peak compass
little osprey
#

I dont know his budget just listing some that i think its good

#

acer predator helios 300 looks pretty too

stoic island
#

@peak compass just btw, pcpp is kinda crap for laptop data

#

Misses a lot of them

peak compass
#

it is?

peak compass
stoic island
#

Yea

peak compass
#

Mb

stoic island
#

It's decent

#

just

#

misses a lot

sharp tundra
# golden forge Thats what should happen. They pay for the parts, send them to you, then you shi...

Yeah, but some people like a finished product before they hand over the money, which I understand, it's hard to tell if someone is just gonna take your money and run, or actually fulfill the order. Sending the parts to the builder would be ideal, but I bet that rarely happens when it comes to trusting someone else with that kind of money. And, the builder doesn't make as much cause they're missing out on the 10% part mark up, and the down payment.

#

Mainly the part markup, cause the down payment covers their pc

little osprey
#

Dell G3 15 is cool for low budget 🤔

sonic pasture
#

I’m looking at the ROG Zephyrus and it looks like it has pretty good specs

little osprey
#

yeah theyre so pretty

stoic island
#
#

11370h+3060 for 1400$

#

they also offer 5900hx+3060 for 1500$ but maxes out on the budget

little osprey
#

yeah looks good

sonic pasture
#

That’s ok I’m flexible with my budget

stoic island
#

they prob also offer a 3070 laptop somewhere around 1500, lemme check

sharp tundra
#

Wow, 2-3 Battery life

#

That's uh... short

little osprey
#

GIGABYTE AORUS 15G XC have 3070 but its for 1800 ig

stoic island
#

They're honest about it

sharp tundra
#

True

earnest olive
#

2 hour battery life is long for a gaming laptop

#

the laptop I just sold had a solid 15 minutes of battery life for browsing

sharp tundra
stoic island
earnest olive
#

guy opened it up to check specs

#

and the battery dropped by like 60% while he was looking at it

stoic island
#

LOL

sharp tundra
#

Tf size battery did it have?? Like 2000mAh?

sonic pasture
earnest olive
#

it was heavily degraded from being plugged in whenever it was in use

stoic island
#

xotic is great

earnest olive
#

also I would go ryzen in laptop if waiting is not an issue

stoic island
#

they have good warranty policies

earnest olive
#

I wanted a new ampere laptop asap

stoic island
#

@earnest olive smh what else are you going to find at the price

earnest olive
#

5900hx laptop needed until april

#

but the i7-10750h kinda suck

sharp tundra
#

Yeah, that'll do it, batteries work better amd longer if they stay at around 50% full capacity

earnest olive
#

well I paid 1700 for mine and it has a 130W 3070

little osprey
stoic island
#

oh wait

#

I misread

earnest olive
#

and it's 15.6"

stoic island
#

1600$ for 3060

#

wack

#

bad

earnest olive
#

yeah

#

I was laptop shopping for a while

#

xotic did not have any attractive options

#

everything half decent was preorder for may/june

stoic island
#

still stand with the 1400$ 11370h+3060 tbh

#

preorder is better than no order :p

little osprey
earnest olive
#

I got 10750h + 130W 3070 for $1700

#

shipped in 2 days

sharp tundra
#

Imo, if you need a laptop for like school or work sure, but if your gaming, rendering, editing, etc. Just get a desktop

earnest olive
#

10750h gets weirdly low perf in league though

sonic pasture
#

I’m confused which should I get

stoic island
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actually, they might have the F15 in stock

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junior crescent
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I'm looking for a pc for Gaming , streaming, animation and a tiny bit of editing, My budget is 2000 USD

earnest olive
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@sharp tundra I was staying at gf's place and trying to play games with her

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got so sick of 60hz screen I just bought a new gaming laptop

stoic island
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76WHr battery

earnest olive
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I can't stand 60hz

stoic island
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it doesn't say pre-order for the f15 so

stoic island
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@sonic pasture For now, this is still the suggestion, until you can find a better deal than 11370h+3060 for 1400$
https://xoticpc.com/collections/advanced-series-gaming-laptops/products/asus-tuf-dash-f15-fx516pm-211-tf15

little osprey
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what about this

earnest olive
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I wouldn't buy a quad core laptop in 2021 idk

stoic island
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eh

earnest olive
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my i7-7700hq was lagging trying to graph 3d shapes for math homework lol

stoic island
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lol

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it's 11th gen tho

sharp tundra
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There is situations where it is necessary, but I know some people just want a laptop for whatever damn reason, even if they're just gonna have it sit on a desk anyways

sonic pasture
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Lmao

stoic island
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lemme hop on passmark

earnest olive
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it took 3 minutes to graph a simple cone

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@sharp tundra it's ok at home I just leave the laptop mining

stoic island
earnest olive
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see here's the thing

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my 10750h benchmarked really well

stoic island
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hm

earnest olive
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but I saw really weird frame drops in games that shouldn't be frame dropping

stoic island
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temps?

earnest olive
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I managed to get into advanced bios to unlock undervolting

stoic island
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tried something like throttlestop?

earnest olive
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-65mV

earnest olive
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external cooling

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temps maxed out at 85C which is not throttling point for laptop

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it was maintaining 4.6ghz all core for entire league match but I saw dips as low as 90 fps

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and yes ram is dual channel