building-and-recc-chat

[balmy patio]

and if you do plan on getting a 3400g, don't pay over $170 for one imo

[rigid oracle]

where am i going to find one at MSRP

everywhere i look they are all overpriced

[balmy patio]

yeah

bad time to buy computer hardware ngl

even ram's overpriced

[rigid oracle]

i guess many people had the same idea i had

"hey i wanna build a computer"

makes me not feel very unique 😔

[balmy patio]

yeah many people got into gaming

[rigid oracle]

mfw gaming

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

[lyric thistle]

Be unique

Have a prebuilt from a terrible company and upgrade it

😎

[rigid oracle]

ok

ill go buy an optiplex

gaming optiplex 😳

optiplex with RTX 3080 😳

buy a new one 😎

[austere wagon]

Ummm idk what your GPU will be SpaceRat but that PSU is pretty weak only 450 isnt gonna handle much

[warm swift]

@stoic island looks like the case might be delivered today or tomorrow

[hallow mountain]

Can I connect the Corsair rgb fans? on to the nzxt fan controller on ?? Like can I use that as the fan headers I know you got to put the rgb on the node .

Nzxt fan controller on The case ?

[potent portal]

The fan headers are universal mostly, it's the RGB hubs you need to do a bit of research to tell if it's 3 or 4 pin.

[wanton cliff]

What exactly is the difference, just out of curiosity?

I know DRGB at the very least is 3 pin but I haven’t used many other types of addressable RGB

[potent portal]

ARGB is 3 pins and is 5 volts. 4 pins is 12 volts. Don't mix up the two and plug a 4 pin fan into a 3 pin header or something will burn.

It's really bad design that the 4 pin ones even fit into the 3 pin...

[wanton cliff]

Noted

[stoic island]

Fair

[fading gulch]

can't be me

dell xps 8940

its got good specs

but you can't change fan curve on dell bios, they put a stock cooler on it, and it just randomly freezes if you start something resource heavy

which kinda defeats the whole purpose of me getting it

[ancient wraith]

Is h510 bad

[frank stirrup]

Its pretty good

I dont think a bad NZXT case exists

might be wrong tho

that case is definitely good tho

[manic sparrow]

The H510 can be a little restrictive for airflow. As long as you aren't doing anything extreme, it can work fine.

Worked fine for me before upgrading.

[ancient wraith]

I need some advice I have two noctua fans for intake and the other two as outtake but I just ordered one more fan should I put it too out take or my cpu cooler

[wanton cliff]

Keep the fan the cooler came with

Use it as intake

[ancient wraith]

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H25DYM3?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[wanton cliff]

Mhmm

[ancient wraith]

I have this cooler

[wanton cliff]

I see

Indeed, do as I said

[ancient wraith]

I already have two good intake fans

And 2 fans that came with my case as out take

Do I put the new fan on out take or cooler

[wanton cliff]

Better to have more positive pressure than negative pressure

Use it as intake

[jagged ember]

If you care about dust definitely positive

[ancient wraith]

Cause the cooler can have two fans

[jagged ember]

Do you have space for a third intake fan?

[ancient wraith]

No

Only 2

[jagged ember]

Well okay

[ancient wraith]

And I have 2 good ones

[jagged ember]

Any top exhaust?

[ancient wraith]

So new fan on out take or cpu cooler

Yeah

[jagged ember]

I'd put it on top exhaust ig

[ancient wraith]

On top exhaust I have the one that came with the case

Ok

[jagged ember]

Ohh

[ancient wraith]

Should I put the extras on cpu cooler

[wanton cliff]

Which case

[jagged ember]

There's already one top exhaust right?

[ancient wraith]

H510

[jagged ember]

Oof

[ancient wraith]

Lol

[jagged ember]

Wait that doesn't have top exhaust does it?

[ancient wraith]

It does on the back and top

[jagged ember]

In that case I'd probably put it on cooler ig

[frank stirrup]

I would say use the noctua fans as an intake because they are known to be very good and use the generic stuff that came with ur case as outtake.

[ancient wraith]

Ok

[jagged ember]

Yeah, noctua as intakes and others as exhaust

[ancient wraith]

I have 2 noctuas on intake

So I'll put the noctua on cooler

[stoic island]

Don't do anything front intake on H510, it's a waste of fans tbh

Bottom intake decent

Top exhaust decent

[frank stirrup]

And make sure the cooler fan is in intake arrangemnt towards the side of the noctuas

[jagged ember]

Huh

[ancient wraith]

Yah

There is bottom intake tf

[jagged ember]

So turn front intake into bottom intake

[frank stirrup]

Take fresh air from front and exhaust towards back

[jagged ember]

And then have the others on the top and back

[frank stirrup]

yeah

[stoic island]

H510 front ain't getting any air so

[jagged ember]

Convection would work

[frank stirrup]

noctuas on bottom

[jagged ember]

That's fair

[stoic island]

Bottom only real option

[ancient wraith]

I didn't know there was a bottom

Where I don't see it bro

Like in the psu bay thing

Or above

[stoic island]

Oh lmao forgot it didn't have bottom intake

Stock was negative pressure

H510 being h510

[ancient wraith]

Oh

I'm mad confused

Like so new fan out take or cpu cooler

[stoic island]

Just do fans top exhaust and rear exhaust

Intake won't do anything in that case without taking the front panel off :p

[ancient wraith]

I have 6 total fans and and 6 slots

2 intake which have good fans one on cooler with generic and 2 exhaust with generic fans

[stoic island]

Yay for h510 not having good intake

[ancient wraith]

Lmao

[stoic island]

Can you even take off the front panel on it

[ancient wraith]

Temps aren't that bad I guess

[stoic island]

I know you can with the h510 elite

[ancient wraith]

You can

[stoic island]

If ain't broke, don't fix it

[ancient wraith]

My Temps ain't like they were before

[stoic island]

If it's fine, leave it as is and never open any monitoring software again, you'll live happily without having to know about the temps

[ancient wraith]

Ik but I am always paranoid

Like is it too hot right now

[stoic island]

Just leave it

[ancient wraith]

Ik I prolly should

[stoic island]

Thermal throttling exists for a reason

The chip won't kill itself

It has protection mechanisms

[ancient wraith]

And how do I change gpu fan speed its always fast even on idle

[stoic island]

Msi afterburner fan control might work

[ancient wraith]

I updated bios now the fans are aids

[stoic island]

If it doesn't you might be screwed

[ancient wraith]

It was quiet then I updated bios now it so loud on idel

[frank stirrup]

bruhhhh

[frank stirrup]

motherbord?

[ancient wraith]

Me

[frank stirrup]

huh?

me?

cant help you because thats not a motherboard

[ancient wraith]

GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Elite

[frank stirrup]

Ok so start app centre

[ancient wraith]

Hold on

[frank stirrup]

and open thermal console

[ancient wraith]

I need too turn on my pc

[frank stirrup]

let it do its thing

[ancient wraith]

It's called siv right

[frank stirrup]

yee

Itll re calibrate the fans

and you can choose the quiet preset

[ancient wraith]

Ok

It's making a funny noise now

Like a low whirring noise

[stoic island]

Coil whine?

[manic sparrow]

Not on the base H510/H510i.

Just clearing that up.

[ancient wraith]

What

It's different than could whine its like you know

Like a truck running its like that

[manic sparrow]

Do you have afterburner installed?

[frank stirrup]

that only works for graphics card fans

[manic sparrow]

I just saw the part about the GPU fans.

[frank stirrup]

he didnt say gpu fans

he said fans

[manic sparrow]

It was two messages up from that one. I didn't know if he was still referring to the GPU fans or the system fans at that point.

Although, I've never had any fans run full speed after a bios update. That's a new one for me.

[ancient wraith]

It's fixed

Thnx guys

[manic sparrow]

That's good.

[frank stirrup]

gigabyte detects my system as a new motherboard every time I update bios lol

[manic sparrow]

Yeesh. Never had that problem with MSI, Asus, or that bad HP motherboard from my old pre-built.

I almost went Gigabyte too.

[frank stirrup]

Only reason why I went for the gigabyte board was because I got a fantastic deal tbh

[terse moss]

i need a new gpu , i have the gtx 1650 rn. it can barely run cold war, so what’s my best bet for under 300bucks i’m broke

300 my bad haha

[lyric thistle]

You could probably get a GTX 1650

[vapid bay]

used rx580 or 1650S. but tbh it's so hard to get any gpu that's decently priced

[lyric thistle]

[vapid bay]

he said he currently has it lol

[lyric thistle]

Ik lol

[vapid bay]

kek

[lyric thistle]

Best thing you can do is lower the settings for now

[vapid bay]

a 1650 for a 1650

[terse moss]

alright thanks haha, i’m still learning more about building so i appreciate the help

[vapid bay]

just keep that one and put the settings to its lowest

[terse moss]

yeah it runs ok at lowest, i’ll just do that for now

[vapid bay]

coz it' be hard to find any gpu rn lol

[terse moss]

true it sucks

[lyric thistle]

I'm gonna try to sleep

[terse moss]

me too lmao

[lyric thistle]

Rest well comrade

[terse moss]

u too my dude 👍

[cold sorrel]

I suppose someday I'll get to puzzle out fan placement in the case I bought last year.

[ripe relic]

i couldn't post pictures in any of the other channels but can someone tell me if this is good or garbage wifi

[muted patio]

Depends on what speeds you're paying for

[ripe relic]

my csgo runs at all like over 100 ms but this says 11

idk how that works so

[robust lake]

11 isnt for the csgo server@ripe relic

[fossil cedar]

Depends how far you are from the server really

[robust lake]

11 is from the device to the internet provider

I think

[granite barn]

how do i know if my ram is installed correctly?

[vapid bay]

ask the motherboard's manual. and how did u install it tho

[granite barn]

well I installed it one way

am i supposed to use force?

[limber light]

You line up the notch in the ram with the notch on the motherboard RAM slot, then you depending on your motherboard you might have to apply a bit of pressure

[vapid bay]

it's properly installed if the pc opens and shows that you have the total amount of ram (assuming it's 2x8gb dual channel config)

hmmm

[granite barn]

i will read manuel

[vapid bay]

The question is, which slots did u put the ram

Go to manual too see where channel a and channel b where

[granite barn]

I have an even bigger problem

now

[vapid bay]

Should be done A1-B1 or A2-B2 config

Waht

[granite barn]

the ram chip is scratched is that bad

or gold thing

[vapid bay]

Oh hell

Idk

[granite barn]

its little

but enough to notice

[manic sparrow]

As long as it still makes proper contact in the slot, it should be fine.

[granite barn]

ok

ram is installed now

[vapid bay]

Put then in the 2nd and 4th slots

[charred compass]

hi guys i need help so i just built by pc and it was fine at first and now it just turns off when i play a game

[vapid bay]

Assuming it's dual channel

[granite barn]

its in slots 1 and 3

[vapid bay]

Still good

[manic sparrow]

What do your temps look like before it happens?

[granite barn]

How do I take this out?

[vapid bay]

Open iy carefully

Benting pins is not a good thing for most people

[charred compass]

usually it’s at 40 for both the cpu and gpu @manic sparrow

[muted patio]

What power supply do you ahve

[vapid bay]

Prob psu thing cutting things out lol

[charred compass]

corsair rm850x

[muted patio]

Motherboard, CPU and GPU?

[vapid bay]

After u open it gently, gently drop it in the palm of ur hand

[granite barn]

OMG

I INSTALLED MY CPU

HOLY CRAP

[charred compass]

msi mpg z390 the cpu is i79700k and 3070

[vapid bay]

Nice

[charred compass]

my building is kinda old so it could be that it’s just too much maybe?

[vapid bay]

Did u placed it the right way tho

[granite barn]

Ye

arrow

[vapid bay]

The arrow parts

Great

[muted patio]

No, it shouldn't be just shutting off

[granite barn]

installing my first cpu 👍

[manic sparrow]

Think it might be a power delivery issue somewhere?

[muted patio]

yeah, something not connected right or loose

[vapid bay]

I'm in no worries of holding my first cpu since it's intel

And the board is just $120 lol

[granite barn]

my cooler made a weird noise

When I twisted the screw

should I be worried

[warm badge]

you might have overtightened
does the pc still turn on

[potent portal]

What kind of weird noise? A squeak? A crack?

[warm badge]

if its a crack...oh no

[potent portal]

Weird noise is a very broad category, hoping it's not so over-tightened that it cracked the socket

[warm badge]

best case scenario if the crack happened, some of the mounting hardware cracked

[granite barn]

squeak

[cunning knoll]

no shuffle today eh?

[potent portal]

Squeak is fine. Don't tighten it too much though, and make sure it's even for best results.

[granite barn]

ok

[muted patio]

Not on weekends typically

[granite barn]

I installed my ram and cpu cooler what do i do now

[cunning knoll]

sheesh

[potent portal]

Install the GPU if you haven't, any storage devices, and check and double check all your power connections to everything.

And the front panel connectors for the power/reset/LEDs

[granite barn]

ok

[warm badge]

Dont get intimidated by the front panel connectors btw
they look annoying but they are fairly easy

[granite barn]

which screws for motherboard

[potent portal]

The hexagon looking screws (standoffs) attach to the case, under the motherboard. (highlighted yellow)
The screws with the hexagon head screw the motherboard to the standoff screws. (highlighted blue)

[granite barn]

thank you

is this a good position

[muted patio]

Position is dependent on the board lining up with the IO shield in the back of the case as well as the motherboard standoff holes

[potent portal]

It'll only fit one way

[granite barn]

ok

one of the standoffs is in the wrong place

is that fine?

[muted patio]

No, need to move it

[granite barn]

really its hitting the board??

[muted patio]

IDK, is it hitting the board? If it's not touching the board, it's fine. If it's under the board, not fine.

[granite barn]

ok

How do i get a standoff out its hard to get out

[muted patio]

Pliers and twist?

[granite barn]

ok

[muted patio]

Unless it's riveted in

Some don't come out

[granite barn]

thank you it came out

do i need to use all six standoffs?

[muted patio]

Yes if you can

[granite barn]

ok

will it be bad if i leave out just one?

[muted patio]

On the edge, I wouldn't, in the middle, should be fine

[jagged ember]

Edge ones are the most important imo

[muted patio]

Yes

[jagged ember]

Cause that's the anchor point if you wanna yank something from the mobo

Say a 24 power pin

[granite barn]

which one?

[muted patio]

Yo mean those three holes in the middle, the silver ones?

[granite barn]

no

above the bottom right one

[muted patio]

I would put that one in if you can

If not, board will flex inserting and taking out ram

If anything, I'd leave the bottom right one out if you have to leave something out

[granite barn]

that is the only one that is isn't matching up with the rest......

[muted patio]

Looking at your picture, the board seems to be too low in the case

Do all of the ports line up with the back of the case?

IE speakers and stuff?

audio?

[granite barn]

ye

[muted patio]

Does your case support M-ATX boards? All the holes should line up, might have to add a standoff tho?

[granite barn]

yes

it lines up

its just off by a few inches

so the screw cant go in fully

[muted patio]

Are all the other screws tight?

[granite barn]

yes

[muted patio]

Loosen them up so the board can wiggle

[granite barn]

ok

[muted patio]

Start all the screws but don't tighten them

[granite barn]

I did that

[muted patio]

Once they're all started, then tighten fully

[granite barn]

ima just try to screw it in sideways

when I start to feel the screws tighten do i stop?

[potent portal]

The motherboard screws should go all the way down, touching the board. Don't tighten past there or you can crack it.

[granite barn]

how to install gpu?

[stoic island]

You see those brackets on the left side?

those have to be unscrewed

[granite barn]

yes

Their is no screws though?

[stoic island]

what case..?

they have to be removed, different cases have different ways of removing them

most common is just a screw

[granite barn]

lian li 205m

[stoic island]

check manual

lian li doesn't seem to offer an online manual

[granite barn]

ok

[golden viper]

might be a snap off setup

[granite barn]

when I push them in they come off a little

[potent portal]

Those kinds of brackets are made to snap off when you bend them

You'll need to take off 2 probably, the ones lining up with where the GPU will sit

[raw crane]

Hi what’s the difference between dpi and hdmi

[vagrant olive]

@raw crane you mean dp?

[raw crane]

YEA

LMAO

[vagrant olive]

lol

[raw crane]

Sorry so used to changing my dpi on my mouse

[vagrant olive]

dp is displayport, its just a different type of port/cable for video

if you can use that over hdmi, then dp is better

[raw crane]

Oh okay, cool thank you

[vagrant olive]

np

[raw crane]

Is there a kind of dp I need?

Like I know there’s different HDMI’s

Like hdmi 1 hdmi 2

[vagrant olive]

the ports still the same, just different version like hdmi

[potent portal]

Most people it doesn't matter, but if you're running extremely high resolution or high refresh rates you need to pay attention to the versions

[raw crane]

I have 280hz

Monitor

[potent portal]

What resolution?

1080p?

[raw crane]

1920x1080

Mhm

FHD

My build is confusing, i5 10600k with a 3070

[potent portal]

Any displayport will be able to handle that, but if you do hdmi make sure the cable is at least 2.0

[raw crane]

Okay cool thank ylu

You*

[granite barn]

does the psu fan face down or up

[potent portal]

Down most likely

Since you have a shroud over it

[brittle tinsel]

Is this sata 2 or 3?

[potent portal]

Link?

Can't tell just from a pic lol

[brittle tinsel]

https://store.supermicro.com/supermicro-sata-flat-straight-straight-57-5cm-cable-cbl-0044l.html

This is the same serial code, only the one I have from an old build is curled

[brittle tinsel]

I also have another one that I’m unsure about but it doesn’t contain any serial it just says serial ata

[little osprey]

Hello, I has a question

[ripe wedge]

it doesnt specify lol

[little osprey]

I recently bought a be quiet 802 and it comes with 3 stock fans, I was wondering if I should buy a noctua 12x25 and put it on the top back portion so there is flow on top of the case instead of just the 2 in the front and 1 in the back. Is this necessary since it already has 3?

I wouldn't want to introduce noise for a small change in performance/Temps, I make music so I want want it as quiet as possible.

[potent portal]

Look at the Amazon reviews then if it doesn't specify, there's always someone complaining if it's actually sata 2

[brittle tinsel]

Would sata 2 work on an hdd and modern mobo?

I just need an extra sata for a old hard drive

[potent portal]

Yes, it will work but be limited to 3Gb/s

[brittle tinsel]

That’s fine, I wouldn’t use it for anything major I have 2 4tb hdd and a 2tb ssd. It’s the drive from my old pc so if it isn’t fried from the surge then I want my data off of it (some important some not)

[ripe wedge]

I mean if it is loud when you make music you can adjust the fan curve in the bios and make it quiet when its idle

[little osprey]

Ah, yeah true. Do you think it's worth getting it thought for temp/performance? Like will it even make a difference

[ripe wedge]

maybe. send a pic of your pc so I can visually see how its set up

[little osprey]

It comes with 3 x 140 mm fans

[ripe wedge]

you could get 2 more for top

but if not that should be fine

and if you are having an aio I would top mount the rad

[little osprey]

Alright, I'll see what performance I get with stock because when recording, only the cpu usage will be heavy so I'm not sure if the cpu cooler is good enough for that or if I should get something to direct air out from the top.

[ripe wedge]

what cpu is it

and what cooler

[little osprey]

I don't wanna be running super high Temps and damage my stuff if it can be fixed with 1 or 2 fans on the top, u know?

A 5900x and noctua NH-D15

[ripe wedge]

thats a pretty good airflow case so should be fine

yeah that should be beefy enough for it

[little osprey]

Yeah the only thing is

[ripe wedge]

filters?

[little osprey]

I want to use the sound dampening options instead of the airflow ones, in that setup I'm a bit more iffy is to how the airflow will be. But with the airflow parts, I'm confident it will stay cool at the expense of sound.

[ripe wedge]

if its too loud then you could always run it in another room maybe

and run wires to record audio

[little osprey]

On the top portion in the back (2nd picture), there's a few vents but I'm not sure it a fan would make a difference since it's only that area and on thr top back only

Idk if that would work since it's just my room but I'll consider it an option if I can

[granite barn]

i have 5 fans a exhaust and instake are already installed and I have 3 more rgb fans the ones installed aren't rgb

what fan congiruation should i use

configuration*

[fossil cedar]

Push at the back and top, pull at the front

[granite barn]

huh?

[granite barn]

so exhaust in top and back

and intake in front?

[civic tusk]

Yes

[granite barn]

ok

[civic tusk]

But in most cases having two fans top actually is pointless

It just takes out intake air before its even reached components to cool

[rich helm]

Not really

[civic tusk]

In what way

[rich helm]

Well let’s say you have 3 intakes, and without the top 2 fans you have 1 output so that’s unequal. With the extra 2 exhaust it’s equal air pressure

Less dust

[civic tusk]

You don't need equal air pressure

Positive air pressure is completely fine

I would say the most amount of fans is 3 intake 1 top 1 rear

Having 2 top has no benefit

Unless you are mounting an aio rad up there

Then obviously that changes things

[granite barn]

also I got these things that i put on the fans do i use them

[civic tusk]

I run positive pressure in my case and have no problems with dust

[potent portal]

Positive pressure is recommended for almost all use cases

That way it's not pulling air through the PCI brackets and other gaps that aren't filtered

[granite barn]

so no fans at the top??

[languid cloak]

yo should i buy the alienware auroura r11 with the i9 or the amd. (mostly going to be used for creative apps and gaming in 4k)\

[granite barn]

: (

[potent portal]

Fans at the top should blow air out of the case

Fan at the back blows out

Fans on the bottom, front, and side blow in

[granite barn]

ok : )

[uncut pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GDcrsX thoughts?

[potent portal]

I'd do a 650W and a Gammax 400 but otherwise looks good

[uncut pelican]

👍

I should be more active here

And ty

Oh

The cpu is overclockable but not the mobo lol

[raw crane]

Oof

What if the MOBO front connectors doesn’t have a reset switch?

I plugged in the power led+, power led-, power SW, and HHD LED but no reset switch

[uncut pelican]

Most modern mobos do but if it doesn't then i think ya just dont have a reset seitch

[raw crane]

No I mean, the wires that came with the case

Wdym by that

That’s confusing me

[uncut pelican]

Like the case didnt come with the wires for the reset switch?

[raw crane]

Oohhh let me check

WAIT yes

I thought you said MOBO

[uncut pelican]

Ohhhhhhh

[raw crane]

Yes, the case didn’t come with a reset switch

[uncut pelican]

Weirdd

One sec

[raw crane]

Okay thank you

[brittle tinsel]

The hdd I had in storage has the little piece that turns on the sata power, is this ok or should I not put it in? The sata power clicked upon plug in but it’s missing that little notch

[uncut pelican]

Can you send me the link to your case

[raw crane]

Lian li o-11 dynamic

[uncut pelican]

It should be fine

[uncut pelican]

Thanks

[raw crane]

🙂

[uncut pelican]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F2R5TFQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_6X08E4315KCBZ6DE54JP

This ? @raw crane

[raw crane]

Yes! 🙂

Mines white doe 😎

[uncut pelican]

It doesnt even seem to have any buttons on the front panel

Just to clarify, the issue is that the case doesn't have a wire to plug into the reset pins on the mobo?

[raw crane]

Yeah

The reset switch

Like these

[uncut pelican]

Could you possibly take a picture

Oh

Way ahead of me

[raw crane]

gotchu 😎

[uncut pelican]

Does the case have a reset button?

[raw crane]

Seems to only have a power button

Can I reset it from Thats

[uncut pelican]

Thats why

[raw crane]

That*

[uncut pelican]

I think so yes

Wait

Hmm

[potent portal]

You can wire the power button as reset but then you won't have a power button lol

[raw crane]

😳😳

What do ido 😳

[uncut pelican]

At that point powers more important then reset/restart

[raw crane]

What happens if the MOBO needs a reset

[uncut pelican]

Tbh you don't need the reset/restart button

[raw crane]

Otaayyyy

[uncut pelican]

But i get where your coming from, it would be helpful to have

[raw crane]

Yeah 😢

[potent portal]

The reset can be thought of as a power cycle, not an actual reset

[raw crane]

OH OKAY

thank YOY

Now to confusingly plug in Sata

[uncut pelican]

Yeah it doesn't really reset anything

[uncut pelican]

Lol

[raw crane]

One last question where does the AIO wires go

I’m confused on this

[uncut pelican]

which brand is it

aios are confusing i get ya

[raw crane]

Lian li

[uncut pelican]

ah alright

so there should be somewhere on the mobo that says sys fan which I believe you can plug in the power there and the rgb there should be either another sys fan or a power pin plug

[raw crane]

Okay I’ll look

[potent portal]

The fan power goes into CPU_FAN and the pump goes into PUMP_FAN if you have that header

[raw crane]

There is sys fan and pump fan

[uncut pelican]

well there ya go

I didnt know that lol

fal how long ya been building pc's

[potent portal]

Yeah you need something in the CPU_FAN header or it'll error in BIOS or refuse to POST thinking the fan is bad

I'm not sure, I started like 17 years ago I think?

[uncut pelican]

holy : O

I started last year

its fun tho

[raw crane]

So one goes into cpu fan and other goes into pump

[potent portal]

My first build was a frankenstein monster of a Windows 98 machine lol

[potent portal]

That one on the right looks like RGB

[raw crane]

So where does that go

Confusing 😞

[potent portal]

It should have an RGB controller that came with it

Then the controller plugs into the motherboard

[raw crane]

The AIO?

I thought that’s for the fans

[uncut pelican]

its alive!

[raw crane]

Wait I’m confused, these are cpu water cooler waited

Wires*

It’s not the fans

These are the wires for the fans that I’m gonna connect to a controller where the others are gonna connect as well

[uncut pelican]

yes

[uncut pelican]

That one goes into CPU_FAN I believe

[raw crane]

Okay

[golden forge]

Anyone here have knowledge of Western digital HDD's? My Seagate (Seagate BarraCuda 4TB 5400 RPM 256MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"), after 2 years, has noticeable gone down in speed over the past 2-3 months. I mean, it takes 2-3 hours to transfer 60gb's from ssd to that hdd, where it would take minutes before that... 6gb/s to 5 mb/s. Any recommendations?

[potent portal]

Check the SMART data using a tool like crystaldiskinfo

Seagate Barracudas like to die alot

[golden forge]

I've found that out the hard way, lul

When I try to download it, it says I am not connected to the database. IT happens to all the downloads I have tried. @potent portal

[potent portal]

Their download server must be down, hang on

https://download.cnet.com/CrystalDiskInfo/3001-2086_4-10832082.html

[golden forge]

does it matter that it is 32 bit?

[potent portal]

No

32 bit runs on 64 bit fine, it's just limited to about 3.5GB of memory usage

16 bit won't run on 64 bit at all, but nothing uses that any more

[rich helm]

@austere condor what do you think of this list I wanted some feedback https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kHLxdD

[austere condor]

for a mining rack?

[bitter swan]

Hey anyway that can help with water cooling a laptop? I just need help on find one with the right sized brackets

[earnest olive]

water cooling a laptop... O_O

[austere condor]

using some really expensive stuff for just a mining rack

[earnest olive]

i think people only do that as a joke

[austere condor]

@rich helm

[bitter swan]

Yah its a fun bulid I'm working on

[rich helm]

I wanted recommendations didn’t know what to buy

[austere condor]

now is not the time to get into mining'

and basically everything you've picked is either WAY over priced or jus overkill

[bitter swan]

Yah don't mine now that one lady who crashed that boat crashed the market

[fossil cedar]

If you mine in the side it's still pretty profitable if you bought a gpu to game with but yeah wouldn't recommend buying stuff just to mine

[bitter swan]

Yah if you have a few spare gtx 1070's laying around you could make a few bucks

[fossil cedar]

That's what i said....

[bitter swan]

Yah I was agreeing

[fossil cedar]

ahh sounded like you were disagreeing, read that wrong lol

[bitter swan]

It’s cool lol

[rich helm]

Ah ok, my dad was considering building one as an investment sort of thing assuming we could get cards at msrp.

[fossil cedar]

Lol gl with getting msrp parts

[rich helm]

Newegg shuffle and acquiring them over time was what we wanted to do

[fossil cedar]

Too long to be worth, and Newegg still is selling not msrp cards too

[uncut pelican]

I bought a 3060 at msrp from them

[fossil cedar]

well yes but most are 75 + over msrp

from what i hear

[uncut pelican]

That isnt that bad

[fossil cedar]

No but it will definitely eat into your profits

[uncut pelican]

If your trying to make profit or selling to someone

[fossil cedar]

Trying to make profit minining

[uncut pelican]

Ah your a miner

Never tried mining

Although i could

[fossil cedar]

No someone wanted to make a mining rig, I'm mining on my 3070 on the side tho

[uncut pelican]

Ah

Whats your cpu?

[fossil cedar]

Ryzen 5 3600 why?

[uncut pelican]

Just wondering

[fossil cedar]

Ahh, whish i had an 8 core cpu tho might upgrade to a 3700x or something i can find a second hand one in a year or so, would to 5th gen but feel like a 5800x isn't good deal and kinda feel like it would be too much for my b450 mobo

[uncut pelican]

3700x is amazing highly recommend

Doesn't get very hot either

[fossil cedar]

At least i got 3600 around launch so I've had for 1.5 years ish already

Nice

[uncut pelican]

Nice nice

[signal hearth]

Yeah I have a 3700x it’s pretty good

[fossil cedar]

Nice, it's only a 65w tdp as well

[bold vale]

Anybody feel like helping me pick out a motherboard to start

My Z87 is finally gone practically

Man where's that one guy that was on the ball ready to help me lol

[potent portal]

What socket board are you looking to get? The latest stuff is pretty affordable right now.

[minor wing]

What should I clean thermal paste off with ?

[potent portal]

Best case scenario, microfiber cloth splashed with 90% isopropyl alcohol

You want something with a high % alcohol content (low water content), in a pinch paper towels work but don't leave residue

[minor wing]

Ok ty

I’m watching a video on how to install the hyper 212 and I’ve followed every step but now when I try to put it on the mother board the screws don’t match up with where it has to go

Anyone have any tips to help fix it ?

This is how it looks right now

[potent portal]

Do you have the right bracket attached?

[jagged ember]

You might want the manual instead

Also yeah check if ur using the right bracket

[minor wing]

Yea I have the right bracket but I’ll look at the manual rn

[jagged ember]

You got stuff on the interface tho

:(

[minor wing]

Yea that was before I knew the screws didn’t line up

But I read the manual and fixed it ty for the advice

[wary tundra]

hey can someone look at this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FmR9Yg

[potent portal]

Why the Kraken? Water cooling is unnecessary but if you're getting it for looks it's cool.

[halcyon summit]

Can someone give me a decent $1000 USD pc good at running rust, valorant, apex, r6, and some school work?

[wary tundra]

they wanted watercooling

[potent portal]

I'd do this instead of the XPG https://www.newegg.com/hp-ex920-1tb/p/N82E16820326778R
That XPG drive has had so many changes, not all of them good, it's impossible to tell which revision you'll get before testing.

Is it just me or is pcpp saying almost everything is out of stock?

[wary tundra]

it is

[potent portal]

All my saved builds are saying out of stock on all but a few things, weird

[raw crane]

GUYS I DID ALL MY WIRING !!

EEE I just need to wait until my ram and gpu comes in 🥲 I’m glad I put in everything else early tho because holy moly 🥲

[fossil cedar]

Unless you already have the mobo, imo you're better off getting a 10700k

[brittle tinsel]

So I have the enermax revolution d.f. 850 watts. My mother keeps telling me you need to orientate the fan up words into the case and I’m saying orientate it down into the ventilation vents on the bottom of the case. Who is right here.

Case model for reference is: fractal meshify 2 atx xl

[wanton cliff]

orient it wherever itll get air

I prefer intake from the case

or wherever power cable is closest to the right when being plugged in

[warm swift]

@wanton cliff an i ask you some questions?

about the pc parts i have

[brittle tinsel]

But there is not ventilation on the bottom of the psu?

[warm swift]

because im building my pc on thursday

[wanton cliff]

none on the meshify 2?

surprising

[wanton cliff]

yeah fam

[wanton cliff]

shomi picture

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t know that’s the last part I need and it arrives tomorrow, but the psu only has vent on top and plastic cover on bottom

[brittle tinsel]

Sure 1 sec

[wanton cliff]

no I mean

the case

PSU gets intake from case

[warm swift]

about the motherboard first, is that back thingy, like idk that plastic thing that is supposed to go on the back of the motherboard, is it already on it? or do i have to put it on?

[brittle tinsel]

Oh I don’t have the case

[wanton cliff]

you have to put it on

usually need a standoff of sorts

[warm swift]

alright, about the aio cooler, what bracket am i supposed to use for the Asus B550-F with Ryzen 9-5900x

[wanton cliff]

the AM4 bracket

nice specs btw

[brittle tinsel]

Top

[lyric thistle]

I think the meshify 2 has vents under the psu

[warm swift]

kinda stupid question about the memory, what slots am i supposed to put the memory in?

[lyric thistle]

Above too

[wanton cliff]

did you get 2 or 4 sticks?

[brittle tinsel]

Bottom

[lyric thistle]

So you could do either way

[warm swift]

2

[wanton cliff]

then the 2nd and 4th, going right

[brittle tinsel]

Does anyone here have the enermax revolution df ?

Or has used it before?

[wanton cliff]

its not about the PSU

its about the case

which is what I was asking for pictures of

[brittle tinsel]

I know , I know, I just don’t know which way the psu will push/pull from

[wanton cliff]

either way, as we said

'tis fine

[lyric thistle]

Maybe not, but when you get the case, look at where the vents are where you put the psu

[warm swift]

alright about the fans, is it supposed to look like this? or the opposite? like is it supposed to be top 3 exhaust and side and bottom intake like in the photo or different?

[wanton cliff]

which AIO did you get

[lyric thistle]

You can orient it up or down, so if it only has vents one way, that's the way to do it

[warm swift]

Corsair ICUE H150i RGB PRO XT

[brittle tinsel]

This is all I got, pulled it from the vendor listing

[wanton cliff]

is that a 240, 280, or 360mm AIO?

[warm swift]

its a 360mm AIO

[wanton cliff]

I think the O11 has 360mm space at the top

[warm swift]

it does

[wanton cliff]

so mount it as shown in picture

[warm swift]

and the fans?

[little osprey]

bruh

[wanton cliff]

idk what size it is ok

too lazy to look

[little osprey]

sara i thought you would have known the names for AIOs by now 😔

by memory

[wanton cliff]

how many did you get

[wanton cliff]

ive been doing this for only 4.5 months ok

[warm swift]

i got 9, ill replace the stock fans that come with the aio cooler.

[wanton cliff]

why?

[warm swift]

because they are not rgb, and if i put rgb fans on the side and bottom only and not the top it would look ugly

[little osprey]

Do not

They are RGB?

[wanton cliff]

yeah...

[warm swift]

which fans are you talking about?

[wanton cliff]

corsair comes with RGB fans, no?

[little osprey]

The ones that come with the h150i

[warm swift]

no

they are not

[little osprey]

They are lol

[warm swift]

the ones that come with the cooler are not rgb

[wanton cliff]

bet

send amazon link

[warm swift]

they are not

[wanton cliff]

those are RGB lmao

[warm swift]

no

[wanton cliff]

yes

[warm swift]

no

[wanton cliff]

omfg

[little osprey]

I doubt they show it

[wanton cliff]

you see those white blades?

[brittle tinsel]

I’m pretty sure they are

[wanton cliff]

those are RGB fan blades

[warm swift]

they are not

[little osprey]

If its anything like the h100i it has 4 LEDs

under the bearings

[wanton cliff]

OMFG

what do you mean 'they are not'

you 👏 are 👏 wrong 👏

[little osprey]

aight this is confusing now

[wanton cliff]

why

[little osprey]

i look it up and theres like 7 different corsair fans

one with 4 leds

one with none

LL120

QL

[wanton cliff]

the ones that come on that AIO are RGB tho

[little osprey]

pretty sure its the elite/capellix

google algorithm

[warm swift]

they arent tho, i checked alot of youtube videos, they are not, i think the capellix are tho, but no the Pro XT

[wanton cliff]

which videos

[little osprey]

newegg/google was confusing the elite and pro xt

[warm swift]

unboxing videos idk

[little osprey]

Either way

i wouldn't replace the fans

[brittle tinsel]

He is right, the pro xt isn’t rgb fans

[little osprey]

put the rad in push/pull

[wanton cliff]

^

different fans tend to work... less well

[little osprey]

non RGB on case side and RGB on interior

[brittle tinsel]

The elite is rgb fans

[warm swift]

but its corsair aswell

[little osprey]

nah its all corsair

[wanton cliff]

oh

[little osprey]

Actually

[little osprey]

Which ones?

[wanton cliff]

still tho

[warm swift]

i mean

[little osprey]

ML, LL or QL?

[warm swift]

they arent really good corsair fans

[little osprey]

ML LL or QL

[warm swift]

Sp120's

[little osprey]

uh

[wanton cliff]

even different fans from same company tend to work different

[little osprey]

why

[warm swift]

they arent great

[little osprey]

those are custom loop fans iirc

[warm swift]

thats all he had, he didnt have ll's or ql's if he did tho i would have bought it

[warm swift]

is that good?

[little osprey]

Don't think so for what you need them for

[brittle tinsel]

Sounds like more work, I’ve never dealt with those

[little osprey]

for the radiator sure

not the intakes

[warm swift]

i mean, honestly im not planning on keeping them forever i will change them one day, but i guess they are ok for now right?

[little osprey]

Well

[little osprey]

Yeah

ML120 is top

SP is bottom

[warm swift]

i dont really understand im sorry

im new to this

im assuming the ML is better tho

[little osprey]

Better warranty and better bearings

[warm swift]

yeah, honestly im just happy i got the SP120's because thats all he had so im lucky, with that, plus in the future other fans are going to come out, that are going to be better than the LL and QL you know so yeah

[little osprey]

from what i can tell its just a beefed up LL120

[warm swift]

the QL?

[warm swift]

but other than that, is this the right fan placement? top exhaust, side and bottom intake?

[wanton cliff]

yep

that picture is pretty poggers

[little osprey]

No the SP

[little osprey]

Yes

[warm swift]

wait, so the SP is better than the LL, LL just has better RGB?

[little osprey]

Yes

ML > SP > QL > LL

[warm swift]

i mean honestly that makes me more happy because i really wanted LL120's, so me getting the better fan is making me happier

[little osprey]

unless you specifically want iCUE i would buy EK fans when you upgrade

[wanton cliff]

Vardars

[warm swift]

do they have good RGB?

[little osprey]

Yeah

Corsair RGB fans are just overpriced to all hell

[warm swift]

will keep them in mind when coming to upgrade one day

[warm swift]

they are

you are right

[warm swift]

btw do you know if the Asus Strix 1000W PSU have the 3 slots for the GPU, because im scared that they only have 2

like for the cables

idk

[wanton cliff]

its probs modular

so yeah

even my 750w one has 4 things for PCIe cables

[warm swift]

thank god then

[wanton cliff]

at the very least its 100% semi modular

which is still a yes

[warm swift]

good

[little osprey]

Which one specifically?

[little osprey]

Ehhhh

Depends

[warm swift]

wdym?

[little osprey]

they make multiple no?

[wanton cliff]

I think theres only one 1000w model from Asus?

[warm swift]

i think its that one idk

[warm swift]

the thor?

[wanton cliff]

yeah thats fully modular

youll be good

[warm swift]

great

i guess that will work great with my 3080

[wanton cliff]

here you can see the modular area

[little osprey]

Why specifically 3 8 pins?

[wanton cliff]

that was just an example

[little osprey]

from what i can tell it has 3 PCIe 8 pins

[wanton cliff]

mando

[little osprey]

and 1 or 2 EPS

[wanton cliff]

that was an example from me

[little osprey]

i was questioning his original question

dummy

[wanton cliff]

shush

[little osprey]

Oh

nvm

[warm swift]

because the RTX 3080 card im having takes 3 8pins

[little osprey]

yeah

[wanton cliff]

Asus im guessing?

[little osprey]

might be FTW3

[warm swift]

no, MSI Suprim X

[little osprey]

ewwww

[wanton cliff]

ah

gronsk

[warm swift]

😦

atleast its a 3080

[wanton cliff]

tru

but MSI

[warm swift]

it cant be that bad come on

[warm swift]

whats wrong with MSI

[ionic osprey]

Any have build in case silverstone sg13 for $900?

[little osprey]

Even if the PSU had 2, you could only plug in 2

[little osprey]

Just overpriced/bad cooling

[warm swift]

yeah but wouldnt it be less powerful?

[little osprey]

Nah

not at all

[wanton cliff]

eh

[little osprey]

stock it will never pull more than 375w

[warm swift]

i thought the MSI Suprim X had alright cooling

[wanton cliff]

yeah

3rd thing is only for overclocking, really

[little osprey]

for something at a minimum of 700$ "alright" doesn't cut it imo

[wanton cliff]

[warm swift]

ay honestly im happy with my graphics card, and also he didnt have the Strix or the EVGA so thats all he had

[little osprey]

Where did you buy from?

microcenter?

[warm swift]

no i live in egypt

[little osprey]

Oh

[wanton cliff]

hes in egypt lmao

[warm swift]

so stuff in here is pretty limited

[wanton cliff]

yeah

[warm swift]

so thats why im saying im lucky that i got that graphics card

because there isnt much in egypt

but yeah

@wanton cliff @little osprey other than the Motherboard piece on the back, the AM4 aio cooler bracket, ram sticks placement, and the aio cooler placement with the fans placement, is there anything else i should be on the lookout for?

[wanton cliff]

no

nothing I can think of

[warm swift]

o

k

[little osprey]

Make sure you plug in the AIO to cpu_fan

thats really it

[wanton cliff]

thats obvious if you read manual tho

[little osprey]

Also, don't replace the AIO fans

so how you're gonna do it

when you put the AIO in

[warm swift]

im not throwing them away tho

[little osprey]

put the ones that come with it on top and the RGB on the bottom

so the top ones are hidden

[warm swift]

ill think about it

one last thing about the ram, i heard that the Ram sticks are set to 2000 something MHz, so what do i do to make them 3600 MHz

[little osprey]

What mobo?

[warm swift]

Asus B550-f

[wanton cliff]

ROG B550

[warm swift]

ik you said its not great lol

[little osprey]

Look for D.O.C.P

nah its a good mobo

just better options for price

[warm swift]

yeah your right

[little osprey]

set it to what your kit is rated for

exit bios

[warm swift]

i think its profile 1 right?

something like that?

[little osprey]

and you're set

[little osprey]

should be the first one yes

[wanton cliff]

no

hes gonna have to manually set it

its not a profile

[little osprey]

Didn't mean a profile lol

i mean the first one in the list that you set

[warm swift]

alright will ill see about that when i build the pc

[wanton cliff]

also no

hes gonna have to go to the AI tweaker or whatever and set the DOCP speed manually

[little osprey]

wdym

[wanton cliff]

from 2133mhz to 3600mhz or whatever

[little osprey]

i said DOCP

[warm swift]

is there anything important to overclock other than the Ram sticks? or is the Ram sticks technically not getting overclocked and im just setting them to their original MHz?

[wanton cliff]

ROG boards do be like that

TUF is different

[little osprey]

the first thing in the DOCP list should be his kit rated

[wanton cliff]

no

[little osprey]

i have b550-e

[wanton cliff]

which is not B550-F

[little osprey]

identical bios

[wanton cliff]

not an overclock

dont worry

[little osprey]

Going into bios rn

[warm swift]

alright

after i download windows, what do i do?

[wanton cliff]

download drivers

download steam

download games

play games

[little osprey]

Just checked

[wanton cliff]

send pics

[little osprey]

Brub

Bruh

Going back in 🙄

[wanton cliff]

huh

wonder if that is just newest BIOS or what but its different for me

[warm swift]

yeah but do i update windows and let it automatically download the drivers then update the GPU drivers and Motherboard drivers or how do i do it exactly, if there is a video you know that can help i would much appreciate it

[wanton cliff]

you will have the newest version of windows downloaded

drivers dont get automatically downloaded

you have to go to nvidia website to download them

motherboard doesnt have drivers except BIOS

[warm swift]

but i think i saw a video of JayzTwoCents or something

[wanton cliff]

if you are missing something like audio or ethernet then you will need to download those

[little osprey]

What board u got

[wanton cliff]

B550-F

I use my X570 TUF tho

mainly

[wanton cliff]

same thing on my B450-F as well

[little osprey]

[wanton cliff]

did you do an sfc /scannow or something lmao

[little osprey]

No I restarted 4 timea

[warm swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYYoCXh2gtw @wanton cliff go to 12:46

[wanton cliff]

windows drivers

99% of the time you wont be missing anything

if you are, go to motherboard maker website and download them

[potent portal]

Technically speaking XMP is still an overclock, anything above the base jedec speed is. That's why Intel used to limit your RAM speeds, even if you got a 4000 kit you could only do 2666 or 2933 max. They wanted you to pay the overclock tax and get a z chip board.

[wanton cliff]

intel gronsk for OC

they make taxes for that stuff which is unpoggers

z-series tax, as you said

tho its technically an OC, its not really an OC

[potent portal]

Yeah, it's an overclock that the memory is certified to be able to achieve in (nearly) all situations

[wanton cliff]

if it isnt, RMA

then sue for false advertising

[warm swift]

@wanton cliff can you send me a link of where i can download the latest drivers for the B550-F motherboard, like chipset driver, ethernet driver, soundcard driver etc.

[wanton cliff]

you dont need them

[warm swift]

wdym i dont need them

[wanton cliff]

you only need them when Windows screws up a download, which it very rarely does

[potent portal]

Eh, it's still good to clear up those missing chipset drivers that Windows can't download

[wanton cliff]

come back and ask if it does

[potent portal]

The strix right?

[warm swift]

but if i do it just in case would it ruin anything?

[warm swift]

yes

[potent portal]

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-f-gaming-model/helpdesk_download

If you need it, there it is

[wanton cliff]

Ive never had chipset problems

[potent portal]

Missing "base system component" or similar errors are pretty common, Windows doesn't have every driver in the database

[wanton cliff]

and the .DLL libraries are always incomplete too which is so annoying

but thats a separate problem

[warm swift]

@potent portal @wanton cliff honestly if i had any problems ill just send a message here and then you could help me

[wanton cliff]

yeah

no need to ping us

[little osprey]

i get a horrible static anytime i do any kind of screen capture

just a short burst

every couple seconds

Screenshare snipping alt prt

[potent portal]

Is there ever a time you're not having problems mando?

[wanton cliff]

lmao

reminds me of Kenzie

[little osprey]

smh

this is actually annoying tho

[wanton cliff]

WAIT

FAL

[little osprey]

i can't screenshare