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#building-and-recc-chat
fading gulch
stoic island
Better cooler like a gammaxx 400 or a se-224-xt always an option, assuming you have something like stock
lyric thistle
The 4650g has Vega 7 doesn't it? And the 10100 has the UHD, where does the Vega 11 come in?
stoic island
Wat
fading gulch
temps are usually fine, it just seems like the fans don't spin up at a good rate
stoic island
4650g has its own iGPU
fading gulch
so its only at the beginning, before the fans kick in
lyric thistle
Ok
fading gulch
ive looked through pretty much the entire bios at this point, no option for anything fan related
(dell bios btw)
trim orbit
no 3200g is vega 8
stoic island
Alienware pc?
spiral basin
Vega 7 is 3200g
*Vega 8
stoic island
too lazy to check
spiral basin
just sayin
stoic island
The 4650g has Vega 7 doesn't it? And the 10100 has the UHD, where does the Vega ...
whatever vega 7 was then
fading gulch
it says the bios version is 1.0.5, should i try updating?
lyric thistle
Apparently nothing according to techpowerup
But also the 4650g according to techpowerup
stoic island
@fading gulch Found something, in your bios, go to the Intel Software Guard Extension menu, there's something called "Fan Control Override" that might allow you to control fan curves
@lyric thistle I mean, AMD doesn't say a name for the iGPU for the 4650g, so I don't think there is a name for the iGPU on the 4650g
fading gulch
under the guard extension thing is only "intel sgx enable" and "enclave memory size"
lyric thistle
Vega with the number
fading gulch
nothing with fans
stoic island
Page 65 of the manual here says there is :(
https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/xps-8940-desktop_service-manual_en-us.pdf
fading gulch
oh ill take a look
lyric thistle
Special apu not meant for anyone to ever touch, so no proper information for you
They might've used a different mobo on the xps that has a cut down bios
stoic island
@fading gulch Okay, looks like you might have to enable SGX, and then in the Power Management sub menu, there's the fan control override
at least that's how I understand the manual
stoic island
They might've used a different mobo on the xps that has a cut down bios
I mean this is literally the manual for the xps 8940 so I doubt it
lyric thistle
I don't think I have access to fan control on my computer
lyric thistle
Xps 8940 could have a wide range of specs tho
stoic island
Yes, but dell proprietary bios is dell proprietary bios
They don't just cut it down for a new board
stoic island
Manuals for laptops and prebuilts are often like that
Responding to this bit smh
lyric thistle
I've only really looked at dell and hp laptop manuals lol
stoic island
oh well
fading gulch
just enabled sxg, still don't see it
lyric thistle
:(
fading gulch
i could try a bios update
full atlas
Should I trade my spare 2700x for a h150i elite cappelix and a 4000d airflow?
sand falcon
If you can find someone willing to make the trade, yes
blissful cradle
Its stuck on this screen and it's been 20 mims
Just built the pc
Any tech expert who can help
autumn aurora
I wouldn’t unplug it
Wait
Yeah you can unplug it and restart it because you haven’t had the chance to press yes right ?
stoic island
hm
fading gulch
just updated bios, still not there :/
little osprey
Anyone know a good pcie hard drive?
lyric thistle
A w h a t
little osprey
PCIe hard drive
lyric thistle
I need to see this
little osprey
What is it then?
stoic island
PCIe SSD
little osprey
It says solid state drive
Isn't that a hard drive?
It even says hard drive on the name
little osprey
In the name?
stoic island
it's solid state drive..?
little osprey
Can't those be called hard drives as well? Especially since it's not a CLOUD based drive? It's a physical drive, therefore hard drive
stoic island
Hard drive usually refers to Hard Disk Drives, aka HDD
back to this
little osprey
But, to make y'all happy....anyone know a good PCIe SSD
balmy patio
idk perhaps a 905p
stoic island
@little osprey Anyways, it's always an option to get a PCIe m.2 card that takes in m.2 SSDs
little osprey
Ahh
balmy patio
yee
little osprey
So a PCIe to m2 adapter?
balmy patio
pretty sure it's cheaper as well
tulip arch
What’s a good 24 pin 90 degree adapter brand
tulip arch
Why you say that ?
little osprey
My board has two slots, and that gives you four more
tulip arch
Oh ok 😂
little osprey
6 m2 NVME slots
tulip arch
Is it Intel compatible
little osprey
Intel AND AMD
muted patio
Yeah but the speeds won't be great. that fits in a x16 slot but the second x16 slot on motherboards only runs at x8. Which means each NVME will only get 2 lanes instead of 4
So roughly half speed per NVME drive
little osprey
Or...I can put my gpu in slot two....
muted patio
Or that lol
little osprey
Big brains
muted patio
x8 isn't terrible for a GPU but.....
little osprey
It's only a 2070S
I can take a 20fps hit. Who knows, some of my games I might not even notice a difference
tulip arch
Any 24pin 90 degree adapters that are good ?
little osprey
Never heard of any
little osprey
Amazon, newegg
tulip arch
I’ll just go for one that has high reviews but they’re only like $6
To as high as $20
Trying to make my new rig build fancy
flat pendant
I got a problem with my PC not displaying. So I built my first gaming pc like 4 months ago and everything was running smoothly until couple days ago where my Pc would start (gpu and fans running) but no on screen post. I look at my motherboard and the QLED light shows a solid orange/yellow light in which case for my motherboard (X-570i Asus) it says DRAM so I did the usual troubleshooting by taking one stick out and turning it on but no luck. So I figured that my ram just died or whatever lmao. So I bought new ram and when I installed it I still got the same problem..Any help?
muted patio
Motherboard? CPU? What slots is the ram in?
muted patio
Ok, what is the board and CPU?
flat pendant
Motherboard is the Asus X570i gaming and my cpu is the Ryzen 7 3700x
muted patio
Of course, they hid the CMOS battery UNDER the covers lol
I would recommend unplugging it from the wall and using something metal and conductive like tweezers, etc, to connect the CMOS jumper pins for a minute. That will reset the BIOS and then you can plug it back in and try and boot again
flat pendant
Alright I’ll give that a try tomorrow thanks for the advice
little osprey
Hello, I'm new here and was wondering if I could get help understanding something about RAMs and compatibilities with motherboards
wanton cliff
Ask away, dear friend
earnest olive
ram compatibility with motherboards is pretty straightforward
ddr4 ram works with ddr4 motherboard
ddr3 ram works with ddr3 motherboard
wanton cliff
RAM speeds with different CPUs is another issue
Not gonna want to pair DDR4-2400 with a 5600x
little osprey
I'm looking to buy this motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-b550-gaming-carbon-wifi/p/N82E16813144322 and this RAM: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232728. I see that on the motherboard it supports 3600 but also notice that at the end of all those numbers, it says A-XMP OC mode, while underneath all that are JEDEC. While I know that just looking at the ram type says it all, (ddr 3, ddr4), I get thrown off a bit with this overclocking stuff, are there really OC rams?
earnest olive
it'll work
earnest olive
xmp is just an OC profile validated by the manufacturer
wanton cliff
Mhmm
Makes your RAM go from 2133mhz to 3600mhz
It stays at 2133 for safety reasons
little osprey
oh I see, ok, I'm building me another PC here, already got my ryzen 7 3700x, just getting the rest of the stuff
wanton cliff
Cool
3700x kinda cringe with the 5600x and 5800x out but still a good little 8-core CPU
wanton cliff
Unless he got a good deal, he could’ve gone for a better CPU for usually cheaper, is what I mean
I just use cringe as a general term
earnest olive
...like what
wanton cliff
I’ve been using Reddit too much
earnest olive
the 3700x still beats the 5600x in multicore workloads
the 5800x is in a different price class
little osprey
wanton cliff
Mhmm
And it’s still a great CPU, don’t get me wrong
But for gaming it’s going to get beat
wanton cliff
Which is what I assume the system is for
little osprey
yeah, gaming, I already help my girlfriend build hers and it runs wonderful for all her games, just waiting to see how it will handle planet zoo from steam.
muted patio
Handles everything I can throw at it.
wanton cliff
I’m just saying, there are better options
Not that the 3700x is necessarily a bad option
Just that there can be better ones
earnest olive
yeah $130 is a fine price for that
wanton cliff
And there are
jaunty nacelle
ok thanks
earnest olive
i personally would rather just get a Z490-A PRO at that point for not that much more
but if you're on a tight budget sure
little osprey
I'm sure there is haha, I'm pretty much on a budget here but it's high enough for me to get something like this :)
wanton cliff
Nice
earnest olive
i kind of hate the appearance of the b560 steel legend
wanton cliff
You’ll have fun with it
earnest olive
pcb is way too busy
wanton cliff
Just out of curiosity, what’s your GPU that you’ve chosen out @little osprey ?
earnest olive
i like motherboards with understated pcb designs
earnest olive
this one is probably the worst offender out of modern mobos
little osprey
got this for my gf and I'm going after it too when my money gets in: https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gtx-1660-gtx-1660-gaming-x-6g/p/N82E16814137401?&quicklink=true
wanton cliff
How much did you pay...?
wanton cliff
on sale
little osprey
sorry, typo here
earnest olive
wanton cliff
That’s 3.5x MSRP
wanton cliff
Mhmm
little osprey
oh?
earnest olive
even in the current shortage you can get a used 2070 super for that price that's like 70% better
wanton cliff
$600 is what you pay for a 2080Ti these days, in a perfect world
jaunty nacelle
you can get a 3060 for that price 
earnest olive
no point talking about a world we do not live in
wanton cliff
earnest olive
at $600 you're looking at a used 2070 super if you don't want to play the waiting game
otherwise you can find a 3060ti or some 3070s for that price if you keep at it for long enough
earnest olive
that's
little osprey
hmm, while I know she won't return because she's happy with it (rather keep it that way lol) I would like to learn before I buy a GPU, what to really look at
wanton cliff
But not horrible
earnest olive
pretty low for a 2070 super
wanton cliff
hmm, while I know she won't return because she's happy with it (rather keep it t...
Manufacturer suggested retail price
earnest olive
some 2070 supers are selling for $700+
wanton cliff
I sold my 5700 XT for $700
wanton cliff
I can sell it for $400 more than that nowadays
At the time it wasn’t worth as much tho lmao
Wow
It’s only been two months
Crazy stuff
earnest olive
ebay price of 2070 supers is approaching 1k now
r/hardwareswap is the last place to get relatively sane gpu prices
jaunty nacelle
3070 newegg drops rn
muted patio
wat
muted patio
SNAP
jaunty nacelle
mb meant available
earnest olive
i much prefer the shuffle system to the drop system
earnest olive
says out of stock to me
wanton cliff
Nani
earnest olive
besides, $810 + tax for a 3070? that's like
muted patio
I added to cart
earnest olive
competing with scalper prices
muted patio
Yeah, busted
earnest olive
i spent many months tracking stock drops
done with it
just using newegg shuffle now
much less painful
muted patio
I'm not doing any of that
wanton cliff
1440p, RTX on, DLSS on performance, 51 FPS average in fortnite
muted patio
Have everything I need now
earnest olive
i'm still trying to get more cards to mine on
little osprey
she hasn't had the card no more than 2 weeks but I'll talk to her about it, as for me, I would want some help, I'm still pretty new at judging what would be best to buy and not to get scammed
earnest olive
@little osprey i bought gtx 1660s for $200 back when the world was pure
those were the days
little osprey
geez O.O
earnest olive
they have been as low as $180 before without being on sale
little osprey
I'm mostly building my PC for Ark survival evolved and Modded minecraft, but I do want to have a good rig for future games I might end up getting into
earnest olive
just forget the idea of buying a new gpu for now
monitor r/hardwareswap for used gpu deals
wanton cliff
Offer up and FB marketplace sometimes have decent deals as well
eBay is a lost cause
earnest olive
never seen a good gpu deal on marketplace
earnest olive
definitely outlier and not the rule
little osprey
ok, so when looking at RTX cards, what does the number at the end mean and how do I know if it's a powerful card, like Rtx 3070 for example?
pliant lake
the higher the number the more powerful, 3060 being lower powered and 3080 being very powerful
earnest olive
*within same generation
*does not hold with mobile
1650 gets stomped by 1080ti
3060 gets stomped by 2080ti
3080 mobile can lose to 3070 mobile
better just use benchmark comparison
little osprey
ok so when it comes to ti, say 1080 vs 1080ti, the 1080ti is better?
earnest olive
yes
little osprey
Ok
earnest olive
just use the comparison i linked
you can put most cards
they have cards from the early 2000s on there
little osprey
Thank you all :)
ripe wedge
but not all 3000 series are better than older
like an RTX 3060 is worse than a 2070 Super
signal gate
tracking stock drops got me there 🙏
potent portal
ti > super > regular
vagrant olive
turned on my pc for the first time with aio, was instantly seeing temps of 90C
took off the block and i could see through the layer of pre applied paste on the cpu and copper block
do you guys think thats the issue?
earnest olive
if you can't see through it, there's too much of it
vagrant olive
hm
earnest olive
thermal paste is supposed to be a microscopically thin layer once mounted with any extra squeezing out of the sides
vagrant olive
it was like super cracked too
earnest olive
instant 90C points to faulty pump or fans yes
vagrant olive
ffs it had better not be
muted patio
Shouldn't be instantly 90C tho even with a bad pump
wanton cliff
Shouldn't be instantly 90C tho even with a bad pump
Sure it could be
earnest olive
yeah also a possibility
vagrant olive
would it be like that if i mounted it too tightly
muted patio
I mean, it's like an air cooler with no fan running
earnest olive
if you mount it too tightly the standoffs will just snap off
muted patio
It'll get hot but not right away or immediately
earnest olive
speaking from experience
vagrant olive
oh
muted patio
Might have used the wrong standoffs
vagrant olive
bc i was worried i did it too tightly
earnest olive
i snapped a standoff on an aio before
muted patio
An AIO that clips on?
vagrant olive
that hook onto the standard like thing
muted patio
What AIO is this?
earnest olive
earnest olive
if both clips are in then it isn't a mounting pressure issue
pretty hard to get an improper mount with the clip system
vagrant olive
hm
earnest olive
probably just faulty unit
muted patio
Well, there are tightening screws too
wanton cliff
No swore
jagged ember
Yo
earnest olive
let's not avoid the filter that is there for a reason
vagrant olive
oh sry
muted patio
Where did you have the AIO pump plugged into?
vagrant olive
theres no pump cable
it just has one thing that goes into cpu fan
and another that goes into the commander core
earnest olive
that is the pump cable
muted patio
No
vagrant olive
oh kk
earnest olive
no, a pump cable is perfectly fine on cpu fan header
vagrant olive
i dont feel like turning it back on if its gonna be 90C aa
will it be ok if its just for a minute
earnest olive
won't damage anything
muted patio
if it's 90C in the BIOS
vagrant olive
ok..
earnest olive
you can run it at 90C forever
muted patio
Then the mount is bad
muted patio
Check BIOS
lime creek
I am back to fix my problem!
Thanks @muted patio for your help - the tempature is between 33-40 degrees Celsius.
lyric thistle
But, to make y'all happy....anyone know a good PCIe SSD
Lol dw about it, it's not too important. People still refer to entire desktop computers as "CPU", especially in a less IT inclined business setting. Just a little confusing to people who swear by "proper" terminology.
muted patio
I am back to fix my problem!
Thanks <@!618616722840223754> for your help - the ...
Well, you have another problem now tho
I'm reading the file you sent
muted patio
yeah
earnest olive
hwmonitor is bad
vagrant olive
they were loud af too
earnest olive
use hwinfo
muted patio
Need to go into BIOS and check where the pump header is plugged into
vagrant olive
so prolly 100% speed
earnest olive
i have seen hwmonitor report a ryzen 7 2700x running at 4.3 million C
derive your own conclusion from that
lime creek
And I need to update the Bios Driver. I remember that you said that yesterday.
earnest olive
have also seen it report fans running in excess of 2 million rpm
wanton cliff
Imagine the cooling perf lmao
muted patio
And I need to update the Bios Driver. I remember that you said that yesterday.
You've already updated the BIOS, we were talking about motherboard drivers
earnest olive
aka the fan motor instantly vaporizes
potent portal
I saw one board reporting 0v to the CPU
muted patio
And I need to update the Bios Driver. I remember that you said that yesterday.
let me read through that text file, hang on
wanton cliff
aka the fan motor instantly vaporizes
Imagine if it actually could do that tho
earnest olive
hwmonitor makes my cpu more efficient than hwinfo! takes 0v! unlimited thermal/power headroom
wanton cliff
Would be lit as hell
vagrant olive
plugging in stuff
earnest olive
i also saw it report something like 9 ghz on an fx 8320
vagrant olive
gonna go into bios
muted patio
Just rmeember which header you plugged the pump feedback into
wanton cliff
i also saw it report something like 9 ghz on an fx 8320
Wasn’t one 8320 able to actually able to hit that at one point?
earnest olive
9ghz @ 0v running 4.3 million C despite cpu fan running at 2 million rpm
muted patio
I'd recommend CPU_FAN header
earnest olive
thanks hwmonitor
vagrant olive
i plugged it into cpu_fan
muted patio
perfect
muted patio
i plugged it into cpu_fan
When you get into the BIOS, see if the CPU FAN is reading an RPM
vagrant olive
ok
wanton cliff
no, the world record is 8722.78mhz
That’s close. Wonder how it would hold up against a modern Ryzen CPU
earnest olive
it would lose
lime creek
Do I need to open up in bios to install the driver?
vagrant olive
fans are at 100% tho
muted patio
Do I need to open up in bios to install the driver?
NO, just hang on lo, still reading that file
earnest olive
granted this is not xoc but the clock speed is not gonna bridge that gap
vagrant olive
CPU_FAN is N/A
potent portal
FX had awful IPC even when it was new
muted patio
CPU_FAN is N/A
Are you sure you have it on the right pins?
vagrant olive
i think so
muted patio
IE lined up properly?
muted patio
Let me check connections on the commander pro also
earnest olive
you'd have to break off the plastic to be able to line up cpu fan incorrectly
wanton cliff
FX had awful IPC even when it was new
FX as a generation was kinda a failure imo
Generations
muted patio
Yeah, please answer
earnest olive
fx being a failure is not an opinion
vagrant olive
was up to 53 just now
earnest olive
it almost bankrupted amd
potent portal
FX as a generation was kinda a failure imo
Right, when your absolute best processor does worse than the middle processor of your competitor, you've failed
muted patio
Please take a picture and post it of the connections on the Commander Core
vagrant olive
only the aio fans are plugged into the commander core
muted patio
what you describe sounds like a bad pump
UNless they forgot the sata power
On the commander core
earnest olive
temp steadily rising in bios with no reading
vagrant olive
sata power is in
muted patio
Sure, return it but we should check all the things, or not.
muted patio
Not long
vagrant olive
i mean i still have my stock cooler i can use ig
earnest olive
2 minutes?
muted patio
Commander Pro pic please
earnest olive
ah
vagrant olive
yeees
muted patio
let's check your cables
vagrant olive
ill stop tlaking
earnest olive
just use the stock cooler while you wait then
they wouldn't bundle the stock cooler if it didn't work
hollow marsh
Do I have to buy a splitter for my cpu cooler to light up?
earnest olive
did you plug in the rgb? lol
vagrant olive
earnest olive
rgb is not automatically powered by a fan cable
hollow marsh
I think my rgb one is taken 😔
earnest olive
then get a splitter
vagrant olive
@muted patio
hollow marsh
how much are those 😔😔😔
earnest olive
like $5
hollow marsh
Oh that’s not too bad lol
earnest olive
they get bundled for free with most cases/coolers that have multiple rgb fans
not that expensive to make a cable
lime creek
@muted patio You seem pretty busy. Super excited to learn what that issues is with the black screen in and outs.
earnest olive
just make sure you buy the right kind between 12v 4pin and 5v 3pin
also don't overload a single header too much, don't want to connect more than 4 things to one
exact number depends on what exactly you're plugging in (amperage limit) but 4 is a good rule of thumb
i've got 2 headers powering 8 fans and a water block lol
hollow marsh
I was hoping that the header that says amd light would be able to power it but I guess not :c
earnest olive
well is it the right type of header
lime creek
@muted patio updated the motherboard driver. Still glitching.
hollow marsh
It's a 4 pin but I tried it and didn't work so I think i'll just have to buy a spliter
earnest olive
did you plug it in the right way
line up the arrow on the plug to the 12V line on the pins
pin side generally marks the 12V line with "12V" or an arrow
every rgb plug i've ever seen has an arrow corresponding to the voltage pin
it won't work if you send the voltage down the wrong pin, won't cause permanent damage though
rgb connectors are dumb, they should really have a retention clip like fans that also only allow you to plug them in the correct way
oh what i would give for rgb connectors to have retention clips
gusty abyss
corsair uses some 
earnest olive
yeah but then you're stuck in their proprietary system using their bloatware software and paying $200 for fans
would rather go blackout build than corsair
gusty abyss
funny thing is the connectors themselves aren't even proprietary
just a standard no one else uses
earnest olive
effectively proprietary
gusty abyss
you can get adapters!
gusty abyss
lolol
earnest olive
imagine if corsair made gpus powered by floppy
sounds like something corsair would do
gusty abyss
rgb connectivity weirdness is probably the main reason I'm kinda glad I went corsair
gusty abyss
lol
earnest olive
i paid $3 each for my argb fans from id-cooling
very high quality fans
using standard connectors
gusty abyss
dang, got a link?
earnest olive
it was a pricing error 😛
gusty abyss
earnest olive
gusty abyss
lol
earnest olive
still solid fans for the intended price though
$35 for a 3 pack that includes controller and 1-4 splitter
gusty abyss
yeah that's real nice
earnest olive
very quiet pwm fans
i can sleep next to 5 of them running at 80%
provides ample airflow for the questionable gpu setup i have in my case
truly a miracle that neither overheats
earnest olive
what do you have?
earnest olive
huh
i've played with two of those before
neither were loud
managed to push one to almost 2.2ghz
quasi laurel
Can someone help me with my cpu temps
earnest olive
be more specific
earnest olive
what cpu what cooler
severe axle
it could be the angle of the picture, but that sata power cable doesn't look plugged in all the way
quasi laurel
Corsair capellix 360 mm
vagrant olive
it could be the angle of the picture, but that sata power cable doesn't look plu...
i mean
that would be a fan issue
quasi laurel
Ryzen 9 5900x
vagrant olive
and the fans are spinning
earnest olive
does the pump give an rpm reading
earnest olive
clearly not if you're asking for help for it
just answer the questions
what rpm is it reading
earnest olive
have you ensured that it's actually idle
no background processes?
having icue open is notorious for not allowing your cpu to idle properly
anti-virus scans and update scans are also background loads that can start without warning
quasi laurel
Yeah I closed everything but it’s idles at 70
earnest olive
what is the temperature in bios
vagrant olive
welp guess im returning my aio...
earnest olive
leave it running for a minute see if it warms up at all
what is the temperature in your room?
earnest olive
are you overclocking at a constant vcore?
quasi laurel
What does that mean
earnest olive
so no
quasi laurel
It actually went to 38c
earnest olive
yeah
quasi laurel
In bios tho
earnest olive
i would say your cooler is fine, something is happening in the background of windows that causes idle temp to go up
whether it's icue or a background scan or something else
i run a much lower powered cpu (ryzen 5 3600x) under a 360mm aio and observe temp spikes as high as 61C at "idle"
ryzen idle temps are very spiky
go back into windows and run a stress test and see if your temps are higher than normal
earnest olive
nope
vagrant olive
kk
im gonna return it tomorrow
they have a few in stock at my local store so
ill just get another one
thanks for the help
earnest olive
no problem, good luck
fleet pagoda
Is cyberpunk still full of bugs
vagrant olive
yes
fleet pagoda
F
potent portal
Expect CDPR to fix the bugs in about the amount of time it took Bethesda to fix Skyrim
stoic island
Skyrim's been out for what, 10 years, still got enough bugs for everyone
wanton cliff
It just works ™️
hearty obsidian
They just want to share the bugs
potent portal
So did my ex
languid nimbus
Oooo
wanton cliff
Oml lmao
little osprey
OOoooo i found this gem
fast dust
little osprey
First file an LLC
fast dust
yeah I heard about all that
little osprey
deduct the entire mining rig cost as a business expense
buy 30 series cards
Mine until ROI is gone
scalp
and repeat the process up to the deducting
grizzled river
To make a long story short i bought a cpu block off hw swap and i was just trying to mount my block when i realized my thumbnuts wont mount on the posts am i doing something wrong?
desert gulch
What cpu block and what mobo?
grizzled river
Asus z490E ek quantum velocity and a 10900kf cpu
Ive tried all the posts even without the springs and they dont thread except one set but that set is too large for the mounting plate
They thread into the motherboard fine but the caps wont thread at all
Im about to just report the guy order one new and move on im kinda pissed
grizzled river
Im just going to buy a replacement and paypal chargeback. Cant be bothered and i should be able to get a replacement shipped pretty quickly.
Can i at least test the rgb of my replacement mounting plate by only plugging in the 24pin motherboard cable or something and leaving the cpu power unplugged?
frank stirrup
Can i at least test the rgb of my replacement mounting plate by only plugging in...
Yeah im pretty sure you can
grizzled river
Tried it... unfortunately the rgb headers dont recieve power but was cool to see the mobo light up i suppose... im conflicted on if i should order a whole new block or if i should get just the mounting hardware replacement parts and try and make this one work.
uncut pelican
Tried it... unfortunately the rgb headers dont recieve power but was cool to see...
I think it'd be better off just getting a new block
vivid isle
wanton cliff
How’s that 1080 holding up?
restive violet
Hi! Are the x570 boards compatible with 5000 series CPUs (5950x) right off the bat? Or do I have to update the bios using an old gen processor
wanton cliff
some are, some arent
these days its about a 75% chance that it will be
if not, get a Zen2 CPU or flashback the BIOS in the case of something like the Asus TUF X570 PRO
restive violet
How about for x570 xtreme?
wanton cliff
same thing altho I dont believe that board has flashback capabilities
why that board specifically?
restive violet
I like it’s passive cooling thingy plus I like its aesthetics even though its a bit overkill.
Problem is that I recently switched to AMD from intel so i dont have an old gen processor.
restive violet
Apparently not. So my best course of action is to bring it to the nearest PC store right?
Or do I have to try it first and see if it works?
wanton cliff
try it first
if it posts: yay
if not:
flashback if the board has the capability, or get a Zen2 CPU
or nearest Micro Center
muted patio
same thing altho I dont believe that board has flashback capabilities
You really need to check board specs
Cuz it has FlashBack
-_-
restive violet
Okay. Got it!
muted patio
Check first before saying you need another CPU to update
wanton cliff
annoying engine
wanton cliff
Check first before saying you need another CPU to update
I did say 'or flashback if the board has it'
like I also said
trying to do something in Unity
been at it for hours
very time consuming
and annoying
restive violet
Thanks to the both of you btw! 
muted patio
Okay. Got it!
Your board has FlashBack. Download the BIOS file onto a flash drive and just update it before you install the CPU
wanton cliff
if needed
muted patio
That way it's guaranteed to work before you put it all together
restive violet
Okay sure! Thanks for that tip
tiny tusk
Is it worth fixing a pin on a 5900x if it came in the mail damaged or should i just refund Sadge
autumn wolf
rma
tiny tusk
Return it time then
urban trellis
What cpu should I pair with a GTX 1650
This is for a friend's pc
Just for gaming nothing else
static ravine
an i3 10100
urban trellis
Would a ryzen 3 3100 be like the same
little osprey
i5 10400 is best for budget rn
urban trellis
Wait did Intel already release 11400
static ravine
not yet
urban trellis
muted patio
Pre Order
static ravine
Pre order probs
urban trellis
Nvm it's out of stock lol
muted patio
Button says Pre Order
urban trellis
Yea mb
static ravine
yea its def a pre order
lime creek
Hello I have problems.|
I build my son's new PC and though it works it glitches everytime Minecraft is open or running.
Only Minecraft
blazing aurora
Hello I have problems.|
I build my son's new PC and though it works it glitches ...
could you be more specific? what happens when you try to open the game?
lime creek
Ryzen 5600 Processor
ASRock 4500 HDV MB (I updated driver)
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti on GP107-A GPU (I updated driver)
16GB RAM
Here is the error message I get when it crashed:
When Minecraft is open the entire screen will go blank (but game play goes on!) every 90 seconds are so. The screen goes blank for about 1.5 seconds.
brittle tinsel
What processor exactly? Your error code is reading 12 core 12 thread for some reason
5600x is a 6 core 12 thread
lime creek
could you be more specific? what happens when you try to open the game?
When I open Minecraft it takes some time to get started but works for awhile then flashes and then works again. If I have Minecraft and MSI Afterburner open at the same time I see crashes.\
tight sorrel
When Minecraft is open the entire screen will go blank (but game play goes on!) ...
check your cable
brittle tinsel
When I open Minecraft it takes some time to get started but works for awhile the...
Are you over clocking anything?
blazing aurora
When I open Minecraft it takes some time to get started but works for awhile the...
if you've already tried restarting, make sure your hdmi cables are snug in your monitor
brittle tinsel
I have had issues with sea of thieves crashing with even 100mhz overclock on gpu
lime creek
I am running a video cord - should I switch to HDMI?
raw crane
Can a monitor that runs Nvidia geforce run integrated graphics from intel on a cpu chip?
brittle tinsel
Can a monitor that runs Nvidia geforce run integrated graphics from intel on a c...
What monitor? Most monitors with nvidia is g-sync which works for nvidia gpu not intergrated
If you have an intergrated gpu on your mobo or cpu then I’ll plug hdmi into your motherboard
lime creek
Dell Monitor
raw crane
@brittle tinsel it’s an ASUS VG259QMY
brittle tinsel
<@266043765100118034> it’s an ASUS VG259QMY
I don’t see anything about nvidia GeForce with the monitor, do you have a link to the retailer you got it from or even the retailer name
lime creek
Actually. I got everything from Amazon. It's a DELL
brittle tinsel
Yeah, that just syncs your screen refresh rate with your gpu so you don’t have to do it in game. Do you have a nvidia graphics card or intergrated
raw crane
Oh it has Free sync it says
brittle tinsel
Ok, so for gaming intergrated wouldn’t work anyway but yeah you could use it to start installing apps and games no more problem
raw crane
Okay that’s what I was looking for
Thank you
I’m just waiting til my gpu comes in. I could switch the HDMI cable to the gpu when it’s later installed right?
brittle tinsel
Yup,
Unless the gpu is dead or some compatibility issues come up then it may not display
full atlas
How hard would painting this white be?
brittle tinsel
I had mine gpu get here and didn’t display, I unplugged it, took it out and put it back in (listening for the click sound) then it worked
frank stirrup
How hard would painting this white be?
painting a heatspreader?
brittle tinsel
How hard would painting this white be?
They don’t sell those in white?
full atlas
painting a heatspreader?
Yep
frank stirrup
I mean unless you use a specific type of paint its not gonna be doing a lotta heatspreading
but then im pretty sure its not very necessary
static ravine
How hard would painting this white be?
it'll be kinda hard
static ravine
They don’t sell those in white?
they do iirc
lime creek
Anyone know what I should do next?
brittle tinsel
they do iirc
That’s what I thought, @full atlas why not just by the white ones
static ravine
That’s what I thought, <@482708148613021696> why not just by the white ones
yea
Painting heat spreaders arent that hard but it'll be difficult
if its a white build black ram wont necessarily look bad
brittle tinsel
Anyone know what I should do next?
Honestly bro, I have no idea, I’ve done my fair share or scripting and such but never JavaScript, only thing I could find in that error code is that it’s reading your 6 core 12 thread cpu as 12 core 12 thread (1 thread per core)
full atlas
That’s what I thought, <@482708148613021696> why not just by the white ones
I don’t want to go out and buy ram rn 
brittle tinsel
Order online?
I don’t even know what type of paint it would be so that it spreads heat
static ravine
I don’t even know what type of paint it would be so that it spreads heat
yea
black ram wont look bad
in a white build
brittle tinsel
@full atlas
It will be there Tuesday if you have prime,
rich helm
I don’t want to go out and buy ram rn <:wazowskistare:799301851148976148>
You would probably have to go out and buy paint lol
lime creek
Okay... I did a screen record (On GeoForce) and it doesn't show the blank screen flashes. The flashes just show when I am actually using it.
lime creek
Honestly bro, I have no idea, I’ve done my fair share or scripting and such but ...
If you were me. What would you try?
lime creek
Are you over clocking anything?
Not sure what overclocking means. Obviously, I am new to this. We built two other PCs without these issues. I wonder if the issue is the processor being too fast for the motherboard.
little osprey
does this mean i can use triple monitors?
yep you can
full atlas
You would probably have to go out and buy paint lol
I already have some
formal cosmos
yep you can
but can i use dvi for a 144 hz monitos
little osprey
yep dvi max is 144hz
rich helm
Yes
rich helm
what about hdmi
Hdmi is 144 I believe
brittle tinsel
Not sure what overclocking means. Obviously, I am new to this. We built two ot...
I don’t think that would be an issue, you said you had msi afterburner on, and normally that’s used to overclock (push your parts past the normal performance)
formal cosmos
im not gonna use 4k
rich helm
DP 1.2 is 4k 60hz
Isn’t there dp 1.4
brittle tinsel
If you were me. What would you try?
I would update Java, reinstalled Minecraft, make sure graphics drivers and windows are up to date and make sure nothing is being overclocked in afterburner
rich helm
If it’s screen blanks, it could be graphics card, the software, monitor, cable, drivers, and like lastly mobo/cpu
brittle tinsel
Isn’t there dp 1.4
There are 1.4 they just offer up to 1440p 240hz
rich helm
1080p 360hz tho right
rich helm
I know there’s monitors that are 360hz so o assume it’s dp
brittle tinsel
Dp 1.2 is 144hz for 1080-1440p
Dp 1.4 is 240hz for 1080-1440p
360 hz monitors are new so I’d assume at some point cables will be able to handle that, but no need really what system can handle modern day games past 300
rich helm
Minecraft 600 FPS be like
vivid isle
someone probably answered me already but a 10700f is better than the 10600k right
balmy patio
depends on what you want
if you just want for game and wanna get into overclocking, 10600kf
10700f if you want more cores and about the same experience in game, but no overclocc
quasi snow
360 hz monitors are new so I’d assume at some point cables will be able to handl...
They're meant for esports like valorant and csgo
brittle tinsel
Personally I don’t think valorant is AAA, it’s a good game but not demanding like warzone and games like it
Tarkov may or may not be AAA not too sure but it takes a lot of resources
rich helm
Personally I don’t think valorant is AAA, it’s a good game but not demanding lik...
He said valorant is a esports title lol
Not AAA
brittle tinsel
He said valorant is a esports title lol
Yeah but when I was referring to modern games don’t get more than 200fps I was referring to aaa
ebon wing
Dp 1.2 is 144hz for 1080-1440p
Dp 1.4 is 240hz for 1080-1440p
4k144?
balmy patio
do they deliver the same bandwith?
brittle tinsel
Way better than 4K 30
balmy patio
if they do then it should work with 4k144
little osprey
Esports is the opposite of AAA
isn't it just a subgenre?
brittle tinsel
do they deliver the same bandwith?
1.2 is almost 2 gig i think and 1.4 is almost 10 gig
brittle tinsel
isn't it just a subgenre?
AAA just means the game has a really high budget, normally associated with well known publisher’s
little osprey
AAA just means the game has a really high budget, normally associated with well ...
i was refering to esport titles
brittle tinsel
Can’t help ya there, don’t keep up with that, I only know about AAA meaning because of my classes
brittle tinsel
if they do then it should work with 4k144
little osprey
uh? well ok
but esport is more of a genre though but well, i guess i should scroll up a bit more
balmy patio
lmao i've never understood what factors make a game fit into the different genres of game
if game games well on my game computer, then i'm satisfied
rich helm
but esport is more of a genre though but well, i guess i should scroll up a bit ...
Well I was referring to esports in the sense that it’s easy to run, and the titles easiest to run are often games used in esports, titles like cs:go, valorant, rocket league, and league of legends.
Triple A games are often games with very high production budgets and are often some of the harder to run games, such as doom eternal, the Witcher 3, cyberpunk 2077, fallout 76
balmy patio
ahh, is there such thing as double a games and single a games?
little osprey
i known about that, i just got a little confused up there
rich helm
No I dont think so
brittle tinsel
ahh, is there such thing as double a games and single a games?
Not that I know of
Single a games is probably low budget indie
balmy patio
makes sense
little osprey
ahh, is there such thing as double a games and single a games?
there is only AAA and indie games as far i am aware.
brittle tinsel
Double a is probably indie with a higher budget
cunning knoll
no shuffle today? 😦
brittle tinsel
I don’t think so 😦
balmy patio
i see
balmy patio
so would gtaV be considered a AAA game or no?
little osprey
why not?
cunning knoll
def a triple a
little osprey
gta V is a game of huge budgets and marketing
balmy patio
i get it now, thanks
cunning knoll
rockstar made it sooo
rich helm
so would gtaV be considered a AAA game or no?
Yes it has a high budget
cunning knoll
rockstar is pretty big
rich helm
It’s not the hardest game to run though
balmy patio
true
little osprey
it came in 2013 so...
rich helm
That’s also true
balmy patio
it went by three generations of play stations lmao
rich helm
It’s described kind of like the Witcher 3 as an a older triple a title
little osprey
indie games are mostly described as game with few personal, marketing and money aswell
cunning knoll
AA games are like Life is Strange
A games are mostly indie titles
depends on the budget rly
rich helm
Yeah games like forza while not that hard to run are AAA
frank stirrup
Yeah games like forza while not that hard to run are AAA
Forza gets extremely resource intensive as you switch to higher and higher presets
Like a 3090 gives only 120 fps on everything cranked
rich helm
Like a 3090 gives only 120 fps on everything cranked
Really? I didnt know
Wait in 4K?
Right
fossil cedar
Guys i opened up my pc and there's a kinda weird whirr sound should i be worried?
viral ore
vagrant olive
open up ur panel, put a finger on each fan one by one to see if its maybe one of those fans
if not it could be psu fan
vagrant olive
hm
little osprey
oiling fan can solve fan noise 🤔
livid vale
Hey guys, I need some help. My kid has a school project and he wants to build a digital picture frame. The issue is that it has to be small and cheap, under 20 for the whole project. Any advice
frank stirrup
Hey guys, I need some help. My kid has a school project and he wants to build a ...
Whats a digital picture frame?
like what exactly needs to be done?
livid vale
it is a digitalizer with a circuit board that allows you to load pictures on that you can set on your desk or hang on a wall. IT is either battery or corded power.
livid vale
Any advice? I can find the digitalizer easy enough but i am completely blank on the board. No idea on what to get
Thank you
livid vale
Yes that is what he wants to build. But he wants it to be small enough to fit in his locker. I have found the digitalizers at 5 inches which is perfect, cheap too. But the boards are killing me. I don't even know where to start.
earnest olive
i don't think this kind of project is possible for under $20
livid vale
I am familiar with the Raspberry. it is a bit pricey
frank stirrup
I am familiar with the Raspberry. it is a bit pricey
The one I linked is 11$
very basic but has all the things you might need
livid vale
It came up as 18.47 when I clicked on the link
but 11 would be perfect. The Raspberry that came up was the Pi Zero. Is that the one that you sent
livid vale
No worries. This is a HUGE help.
livid vale
Do you have any experience with the software side?
earnest olive
and most likely a usb hub to set it up
frank stirrup
the digitizer would need to be hdmi capable as well
earnest olive
i got a free pi zero and sd card from microcenter and still had to spend almost $20 to get it running
and i had a mini hdmi to hdmi cable on hand already
frank stirrup
Thats true
livid vale
@earnest olive was the additional money to make it work? Or once it was working it was no longer needed?
earnest olive
power supply and storage are pretty necessary components..
livid vale
lol a fair point.
earnest olive
gonna need to up the budget for a project like this
livid vale
So since I am not thinking of everything it looks like I need the following
frank stirrup
and if its gonna be in his locker a battery pack is necessary as well
livid vale
A storage device (SD Card)
HDMI cable
Digitalizer
Raspberry 0
earnest olive
yup
frank stirrup
if he plans on keeping it in his locker you will need a battery pack as well
livid vale
Okay, this is good. Let me see what I can figure out. Thanks. Guys.
earnest olive
might be doable on $40-50
frank stirrup
might be doable on $40-50
yeah
frank stirrup
Okay, this is good. Let me see what I can figure out. Thanks. Guys.
No problem best of luck to you!
wicked frigate
Does anyone know if 5950x is better than 11 gen intel for gaming
static ravine
do you need 16 cores
wicked frigate
I mean
I am trying to have a pc for gaming and streaming
And I want to know if 5940x is better
5950
X
static ravine
well I mean if you need 16 cores 5950x is the only option besides 3950x
wicked frigate
But what’s the best cpu for gaming
Do I know
U know
11 gen
5950x
5900x
From those
little osprey
uh...
static ravine
5900x is 12c 24t
little osprey
11th gen core limit is 8
kinda unfair to compare it to the 5900x & 5950x
wicked frigate
So 5950x is the best for gaming
static ravine
So 5950x is the best for gaming
no cores dont matter
wicked frigate
So than what does???
static ravine
well they do but once you go above 6 little games will need that
wicked frigate
So cores don’t matter when gaming
little osprey
they do
little osprey
but when going above 6-8 cores, it's kinda eh...
wicked frigate
Wait so does anyone know this
Is intel 11 gen going to be best for gaming
Over amd
static ravine
it doesnt matter much tbh
stoic island
we have benches for 11700k, not 11900k
wicked frigate
I see
fossil cedar
Although 11700k according to gamers nexus sometimes preforms worse than 10700k so i wouldn't be to hopeful
cunning knoll
do i need this to get replaced it came like this,
south jewel
do i need this to get replaced it came like this,
did u get warranty?
cunning knoll
like the all state one?
south jewel
ye
balmy patio
rma it bruh
little osprey
rip