building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

Used to use a 256gb 970 evo, but then got a 1tb 980 pro to replace my 1tb 970 plus, so I just swapped the 256 for the 1tb 970

[fossil cedar]

Yeah I've a 240gb ssd but it's from my original pc build like 6 years ago lol

[wicked frigate]

Guys what going to be the best 11 gen intel

Is it true that i7 11700k better than i9 11900f

[ripe wedge]

possibly but 11th gen meh

cuz pricing bad

10700k is way cheaper

or even a 10700kf was like $260

[wicked frigate]

Should I get 5900c over it

What’s the best for gaming

[pliant lake]

the 5900x is the best gaming CPU rn.

[wicked frigate]

What about when 11 gen comes out

[pliant lake]

idk, no one knows.

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[sand falcon]

11th gen is out

[wicked frigate]

No no it yet

U can pre order

[sand falcon]

You can buy one, and there are official benchmarks out

[wicked frigate]

I am just asking if I would be better than 5900x

[sand falcon]

It's not

[wicked frigate]

So is it

So what should I get

5900x for gaming

[sand falcon]

What's your budget?

[wicked frigate]

Doesn’t really matter

[sand falcon]

Yes it does

[wicked frigate]

No like I rc about the budget

Idc

[sand falcon]

It's one of the most important things in deciding what components to get

[wicked frigate]

Is this true

I don’t have an budget

I meant to say

[sand falcon]

No, it's not

[wicked frigate]

That’s not

[sand falcon]

Ubn isn't a valid benchmark comparison

[lyric thistle]

[wicked frigate]

Ok

So which one should I get

[sand falcon]

If you have an unlimited budget, the 5950x

[wicked frigate]

I thought 5900x is better

[sand falcon]

No

[stoic island]

no full 11900k benches tho

anandtech did 11700k

[sand falcon]

Yee

[wicked frigate]

Wait so 5950x is the best even better than 11 gen????

[stoic island]

if you looked at leaked benches on passmark, 11900k outperforms 11700k by quite a fair bit

so

who the heck knows how that's going to do

[wicked frigate]

So should I wait

[sand falcon]

And how will it hold up against a 5950x with smt off

[stoic island]

I don't think smt off does much on zen 3

[wicked frigate]

Should I wait than you see

[sand falcon]

That would be cool if so

[stoic island]

as in, 5950x can prob get 5800x kinda single core perf, since higher boost with less cores enabled/smt off

waiting for benchmarks is fun

[wicked frigate]

So I should wait to get one right and see

[low ermine]

Hey, are 5.25" Bays going away in most PC Cases? The few I have seen that are good for cooling do not have any, just fans!

My Last build was 12 years ago, so I am wondering if this is the norm nowadays

[stoic island]

Yea, 5.25in bays are just gone nowadays other than full tower cases

[low ermine]

Hm, so if I want a Blue Ray player I need an external one?

[sand falcon]

Pretty much

Or find one of the few cases that still supports it

[low ermine]

Will I even need a disc drive?

[sand falcon]

Probably not

[low ermine]

I was thinking about installing an OS

USB used now?

[wicked frigate]

@sand falcon should I just wait than

[sand falcon]

Yup

[low ermine]

Wowww

[sand falcon]

If you want to, yeah

[low ermine]

Times have changed a lot.

[wicked frigate]

But will any 11 gen beat 5950x

[sand falcon]

In single core maybe, in multi core hard nope

[wicked frigate]

Wait How is 5950x better than 5900x

Also

What does single core matter in he most

[stoic island]

g a m e s

5950x should be higher bin

[sand falcon]

It's higher binned and has four more cores

[wicked frigate]

And so your saying 5950x the best for fanning right

Overall

and streaming

[sand falcon]

If you have no budget, yes

[wicked frigate]

Ok

Thx

[viral ore]

5800x really good 4 gaming tho

[wicked frigate]

I thought people were saying 11 gen is going to be better

[sand falcon]

Some are, some aren't

[wicked frigate]

Like which one

[sand falcon]

I'm not really expecting it to be

[stoic island]

We can't tell you what we don't know

[wicked frigate]

Ok

[stoic island]

Who knows how 11900k will actually perform

[wicked frigate]

Wait it’s coming out on 30th right

[low ermine]

So, I am upgrading from a I7 940 to an AMD 5600X, I am looking at the X570 chipsets, but the B550 seems to be more popular. Why would I want one over the other? Also, I have 4 GPU's total, and was planning to mine internet money with them (1 new GPU 3 Older ones) and I was wanted to try out one of those M.2 Hard drives, is there a benefit to using a B550 or X570 over the other one? Oh, I also plan to play games as well....

[viral ore]

you want b550, because you dont need x570

[stoic island]

Well, x570 generally more expensive for the same feature set

[viral ore]

unless you need a TON of IO bandwidth

[low ermine]

12+ years between upgrades has me feeling like a n00b

[sand falcon]

Are the secondary pcie the same?

[stoic island]

Secondary pcie is 3.0 on b550 4.0 on x570 but

[sand falcon]

4 gpus is a lot of gpus

[viral ore]

what gpus?

[stoic island]

Older GPUs shouldn't even saturate 3.0 x8

[low ermine]

IO Bandwidth as in PCIE lanes?

[viral ore]

and if theyre mining, they only need 2.0 x1 lmao

[viral ore]

yeah, as well as usb bandwidth

[low ermine]

well, the 3060 does need pcie 3.0 x8 I believe

for mining

[viral ore]

b550 has fewer available usb 3.0 ports

[viral ore]

it dont

itll run on whatever you give it

but you need a board with four x16 slots

to fit all the cards?

[stoic island]

It probably needs 3.0 x8 for gaming, but probably not mining

[viral ore]

^

[low ermine]

I was referring to the bypass of the mining limitations

[viral ore]

dunno

[stoic island]

They released a beta driver that's avaliable everywhere without the mining limit

it's just software

[viral ore]

pcie bandwidth shouldnt make a diff

[low ermine]

basically I can plug the 3060, or any others I get into the board, but the older 1080's I have can use PCIE risers at 1x

[viral ore]

what card are you using for mining

all 4?

so you have 3x 1080 and 1x 3060, right?

[low ermine]

3060, 2080, and 2 1080's. I am still trying to snag a 3080 for gaming/mining too

[viral ore]

and you want them all to fit in the same rig??

nah

get a seperate system to house the cards

[low ermine]

If I am limited by slots I would just resell the non EVGA 1080

I would like at least 2 30XX gpu's to fit on the board, the rest I can use Risers and do outside of the case

[viral ore]

thats gross tho

[low ermine]

Ugly, yes

[viral ore]

just have a gaming pc, and a mining rig

what you want to do is gonna be more frustrating and more expensive

[low ermine]

Well sir, I sold my mining rig the other week

[stoic island]

Welp, anyways, what's going to be the ballpark for budget?

[viral ore]

then stop mining lol

or, sell the cards while they are still worth a ton

thats the best option

[low ermine]

I can't justify not mining when I go to work since I still have extra cards

[viral ore]

then sell them for a ton of profit

vs mining for X number of dollars, paying the cost of electricity

and gaining way less in resale value down the road

when they wont be worth jack

[low ermine]

I did that with 8 cards, got more than I paid for them, but I had these others in storage in seperate boxes.... it wasn't worth digging through the boxes before I moved to find them

[viral ore]

man im gonna be honest, just keep sellin em

[little osprey]

No dummy

You file an LLC

[low ermine]

I guess it matters that I have a flat rate bill for power for 1 year...

[viral ore]

in a year, those 1080s are gonna be worth like 150

[little osprey]

Deduct all GPU cost as a business expense

mine until ROI is gone

then resell for 3x MSRP

[viral ore]

when would that be?

in a year?

[little osprey]

like 3 months

[viral ore]

they gonna be worth .2x MSRP next year you know

[stoic island]

@low ermine Can you give me a ballpack for the budget?

[low ermine]

When silicon chips reach prior production levels, and the demand dies down (when ETH 2.0 Proff of stake is implemented: AKA TBD)

[lyric thistle]

Ballpack 😎 🔥

[viral ore]

ballpack? yeah im packin

[low ermine]

For the motherboard I was thinking around $300, give or take $50

[stoic island]

nice

lots of options then

[viral ore]

i guess it would help to ask what other things you already have

i assume you got nice PSUs

[low ermine]

I want something as futureproof as possible for the price. My I7 940 and Asus Motherboard have lasted me 12 years, so I hope to get 5+ from this build

[stoic island]

Option 1: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089RBRJMF

[little osprey]

300$ motherboard?

[stoic island]

B550 taichi

[little osprey]

for a rig or gaming

[viral ore]

would you be able to stick a few cards in that system to mine? like your 1080s

not sure if the 940 would cause issues

[low ermine]

I have about 2k Watt in PSU's, prefer to keep it under 1750 constant draw

[stoic island]

Option 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KGVH7YC/
Aorus elite ax, overpriced atm, but another option

[low ermine]

I am donating the old 940 system with a GTX 1070 to the fiance

[viral ore]

nice

[stoic island]

I'm choosing boards off being not ridiculous, having 3 x16 slots, and bios flashback, with good vrms

[viral ore]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-pro-ac/p/N82E16813145216

so like

[low ermine]

she is a mac lady, but she waits forever to render the videos she uploads (content creator)

[viral ore]

imo, sell off your 1080s while they still worth something, then get a board that can handle your 3060/2080, and a future 3080

i think thats reasonable

[stoic island]

I don't like how the x4 slots is disabled on the aorus pro if you use 2 m.2 ssds

But for now, my suggestions are either Aorus Elite ax or Taichi

Taichi is on the very expensive side

[viral ore]

dont use x2 M.2?

ez

[stoic island]

upgradability

and elite ax is same price without sharing bandwidth

[viral ore]

but its not as nice

[stoic island]

(I'm assuming they want to plug in all those GPUs plus some new M.2 SSDs)

@low ermine Need any m.2 drive suggestions?

[viral ore]

im still of the opinion that this system should not go the "jank as all hell" route

[stoic island]

lol

I'm still of "whatever they want to do is what they want to do"

[viral ore]

if they wanna drop a ton of money on a case that can support all their equipment, fine

but leaving things outside the case is just asking for trouble

[stoic island]

eh, I'm assuming just open air bench, since mining rig previously

[viral ore]

selling the 2 1080s makes the most sense

mounting the rest of the cards in a case is easy

powering them with a single PSU is doable

[stoic island]

ax1600i prob

[viral ore]

honestly

1200 would do it

assuming transient spikes arent an issue with mining

[stoic island]

didn't they have 3060 2080 and incoming 3080?

[viral ore]

yeah

plus 160w for a 5800x

or whatever

[stoic island]

smth like 500w 3080, 400w 2080, 300w(?) 3060, plus rest of system power..?

assuming 2080 super or ti tho

2080 og brings it down

[viral ore]

this tho

500w on a 3080? nah

[stoic island]

I need to check but I thought it was like 500w avg

[viral ore]

unless that is the case

nope

3080 do 500w spikes

but avg sustained is like 350w

[stoic island]

oh 400w

[viral ore]

370

close enough

[stoic island]

I usually just pay attention to spikes for most usage so

[viral ore]

welllllllllll

he would occasionally be gaming on 3080

so maybe assuming 500w wouldnt be a bad idea

also @low ermine gaming with 3060 on beta drivers is a no go

keep that in mind

[stoic island]

beta usually p unstable

[viral ore]

VERY unstable

if stable, then perform like doo doo

2080 would perf better lol

but 3060 would def mine much better

[low ermine]

ASRock B550 Taichi So this one seems capable of 2 GPUs usingPCIE 4.0 at 8x8, and the other GPUs at x1.... I cant figure out where the M.2 slots are but it says they are there lol..... Will I be able to take advantage of the "ASRock Hyper M.2 (PCIe Gen4x4)" If I fill the other 5 PCIE slots with GPU's, with only 2 of them in x8, and the rest in x1?

Would any other systems like USB be impacted?

Again, sorry for the n00b ass questions

[viral ore]

for your GPUs, ignore PCIe 4.0

[low ermine]

I was away looking at those links

[viral ore]

its irrelevant

[stoic island]

lemme check exacts

[low ermine]

Sassyfish, once I stop mining I plan to go back to gaming

[viral ore]

for SSDs, if your just mining and gaming, you really shouldnt overpay for 4.0 ssds

[stoic island]

Taichi has 2 m.2 slots

[low ermine]

I am over 30 with an adult Job now, I can afford solid GPU's in the future lol

[stoic island]

this is the only bandwidth sharing

And yea PCIe 4.0 SSDs kinda useless for now over PCIe 3.0 bois unless specific workload

[viral ore]

not my point

[low ermine]

Ah

[viral ore]

mainly talking about pcie 4.0 being overkill for 99% of users

thats all

[low ermine]

oh, I am sure it is, but I hope to keep this PC for 5+ years

[viral ore]

by the time speeds like that become relevant for consumers

that system will be nearly useless

[low ermine]

upgrading GPU, SSD, maybe the Ryzen chip only

[viral ore]

thats how fast PCIe 4.0 is

[stoic island]

Well

[low ermine]

Hm

[stoic island]

do keep in mind PCIe 4.0 rnd speeds kinda bad

[viral ore]

only on the low end ones tho

right?

[low ermine]

So how long would this build be likely to last me, if I am only upgrading the GPU over the years?

[viral ore]

a very long time

[low ermine]

10+ like this I7 940?

[viral ore]

yeah, easily 5+ years

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys just wondering why does my pc keep shutting offf

[viral ore]

yeah, i would say so

[low ermine]

Ok

[wicked frigate]

When I am doing something

[low ermine]

I really appreciate yalls help

[wicked frigate]

And when I turn it back on it’s turns off again

Until I switch the psu unit off and back in

On

[low ermine]

THANKS FOR THE EDUMACATIONS!

[wicked frigate]

Anyone’s knows why

[viral ore]

ofc something to keep in mind is 5800x, 5900x are hard to get rn

i would start newegg shuffling for one asap

[wicked frigate]

5800x are in stock rn

[viral ore]

[wicked frigate]

In Newegg

[viral ore]

well

oh, if you buy a combo

with enermax AIOs lol

[stoic island]

no I'm talking P31 outperforms SN850, Rocket 4 plus, and 980 pro in rnd

[next kestrel]

5900x and 5950x are the hard ones

[viral ore]

thats an oof

[next kestrel]

56/58 is ez

[viral ore]

5800x in stock at best buy tho

so that cool

[ashen fulcrum]

Would this build work?
Montarch Air X ARGB
Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 650W 80+
MSI PRO Z390-A PRO LGA 1151
Intel Core i7 9700k
Western Digital NVMe M.2 1TB
OLOy 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288 Pin DDR4
GPU not decided yet cus all outta stock

[pliant lake]

it would work, but it might not be the best combination of parts, also have you heard of pcpartpicker?

[ashen fulcrum]

Yeah

[pliant lake]

that is an easier way to show your lists

[ashen fulcrum]

What part do you recommend i switch out?

[static ravine]

which NVMe?

[winged lion]

Can anyone make a list with a budget of 700-800 usd? Also monitor must be included

I tried to make one but I didn’t know enough about the low-low end parts and it ended up just bing 1k

[potent portal]

Under 800, with monitor included? You won't be able to do anything more than Minecraft on low on a computer under $650. Integrated graphics only at that price range right now.

[winged lion]

Ok

I had a decent 800 dollar build without monitor

I’ll just send him that

He can just use the monitor he has rn

[cold sorrel]

I'm still over here being sad, and with a handful of PC parts. Good grief I didn't think the scarcity for GPUs would last this long. I really wish I hadn't listened to the people in this channel last year who told me to put off buying the 2060 Super I was originally gonna get "because the new releases will make it cheaper". I might have overpaid, but I'd actually have a system.

[earnest olive]

to be fair I don't think anyone saw this coming

I didn't

I sold my 1080ti 2 months before 3080 release thinking it would lose value and I'd just grab a 3080 on launch

ended up taking 5 months

if i were in your shoes i'd consider spending like $250 on a used 1060 6gb so you can put together a system for now

then mine ETH on it while not using it to offset the costs a bit

[cold sorrel]

Still all I've got is my monitor, fans, keyboard, and case. And that's pretty much been the case since late last year.

[earnest olive]

and sell it once you can get something better

[blazing aurora]

no one could have anticipated a drought this awful so don't feel too bad

[earnest olive]

i mean gpu is the only thing actually difficult to get right now unless you're looking for a 5900x/5950x specifically

[blazing aurora]

^

[earnest olive]

intel 10th gen is really cheap right now and always in stock

[blazing aurora]

yep

[earnest olive]

b560 is out

[blazing aurora]

great chips too

[earnest olive]

you can get a 10400f 6c/12t cpu for as low as $110

[blazing aurora]

10400f + b560 + 3060ti is the god combo

well

triplet

[earnest olive]

i just bought a 10700K for $230 and that's a beast of a cpu

[blazing aurora]

yep

great chip

all of intel's 10th gen offerings are pretty dope

[earnest olive]

anyways a 1060 6GB can mine like $60-70/month so i'd just buy one for a stopgap gpu

[cold sorrel]

I admit, I've been hitting the shuffles to try and get a GPU. Though, dodging the extremely high-end ones 'cause I ain't shelling out a thousand dollars for a single component.

[earnest olive]

would rather have a working pc sooner

a stopgap gpu is better than no gpu

going rate on used dual fan 1060 6gb is around $250 on r/hardwareswap

[cold sorrel]

Funnily enough, this aging laptop has a 1060 in it. I've sworn I won't buy even a used GPU worse than that. Not gonna have my new system be worse than this laptop.

[earnest olive]

well a desktop 1060 beats a laptop 1060

especially if the laptop 1060 is the 3gb model

so no it wouldn't be worse

[lyric thistle]

Why buy a desktop 1060 when you have a mobile 1060 tho

You're already at about that performance bar

Might as well upgrade to something higher

[earnest olive]

well i suggested it before they mentioned the laptop lol

[lyric thistle]

Lol

[earnest olive]

when they said they didn't actually have a system

i assumed they didn't have a system

in which case getting a stopgap gpu is definitely worth it

i used a 1060 as my stopgap

was fine for light games like genshin and league

no problem hitting 240 fps in league at 1440p

[cold sorrel]

I wanted to replace this laptop last year because it's steadily developing more issues over time. (Getting to where it runs too hot sometimes, the hinges are broken so I can't close it anymore, one key on the numpad is busted, and... I'm kind of running out of space.)

[earnest olive]

have you tried repasting and cleaning it

i did that to a laptop that had not been opened in 5 years

idle temp went from 87C to 35C

fps in league went from 25 to 120

repasted my mom's laptop too after 3 years

idle temp went from 92C to 40C (it's a thin and light)

[cold sorrel]

I'm sort of afraid if I take it apart I'll break it. As it is now, it's functional.

[lyric thistle]

None of my family's laptops have ever been repasted

Utter horse trash

[earnest olive]

fair enough

i just replaced my laptop

i7-7700hq was not aging well

[cold sorrel]

I did have to get this laptop repaired once in 2018 when the fans failed. I imagine the repair guy probably repasted it then.

[earnest olive]

was lagging while taking online exams to the point of giving me anxiety that it would crash

and that was with a clean/repaste and boosting to full 3.4ghz all core

you don't need to take off the heatsink to replace fans on most laptops

so i doubt he did work that he wasn't paid for

besides that, 2018 is still 3 years ago

[lyric thistle]

3-5 years

[cold sorrel]

In this model you do. The fans were connected to the heatsink. (I might have researched doing it myself three years ago and then chickened out.)

[earnest olive]

well if he's lazy enough he just plops it back on after removing the heatsink and there you have your heat issues

:d

i would not trust random repair guys

[cold sorrel]

Nah, after the repair it ran a lot cooler for a long time.

[earnest olive]

you got a good one then

either way 3 years is a long time

depending on what paste he used could be due for a repaste

a cleaning at the very least

i clean my desktop once every 2 weeks, 3 years is a long time for dust to build up

[cold sorrel]

The laptop was bought in October 2016. So it's coming up on five years old...

[earnest olive]

mine too

repasted it twice

slightly older than yours

never had to replace the fan though

even if you're scared to break something repasting it (which is valid since it's direct die), cleaning it out is very low risk

you should at least clean it out

no need to remove the heatsink and expose any silicon

[cold sorrel]

At some point I should attack the old XP tower I've got hanging around and crack that open. Morbid curiosity to see how much dust has built up in it more than anything.

[earnest olive]

why so aggressive

poor pc

[cold sorrel]

I'm being overdramatic for silliness. The old keyboard I had in the shelf on the desk the tower is sitting on had acquired a scary amount of dust itself. (I cleaned it, but stored it away.)

If I wanted to horrify people I could dig up the picture I took before I cleaned it.

[earnest olive]

ancient city of asus

[lyric thistle]

Asus

I want to visit the ancient palace upon the north bridge

And wander the halls of the udimm dungeons

But alas I don't have tourism money 😔

[jaunty nacelle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9yk3Z

what should i

change

[cold sorrel]

Behold

[lyric thistle]

The sacred scriptures

[cold sorrel]

I said it was horrifying to look at. Since I was using the desk more as storage space than a desk, I'd not pulled that keyboard shelf out in literal years.

I discovered that mess when I started cleaning the desk off back when I was preparing to build my new system back in the summer. (You know, before GPUs became unobtainium.)

[lyric thistle]

Hand it over to the Queen's museum and it will be "restored" and "preserved" for generations to "enjoy"

[cold sorrel]

Sadly, I could not just leave it. If Mom had seen that, I would have been oh so very dead for letting that much dust pile up. I cleaned it and then moved that ancient keyboard to be put away.

[earnest olive]

@jaunty nacelle replace the mp33 for the 1tb mushkin pilot-e

don't pay $111 for windows when a key is like $5 on ebay

[cold sorrel]

(Because what mobo these days is gonna have a PS/2 port? I bought a new keyboard last year that will go much nicer with my new system when I finally do build it.)

[earnest olive]

also overpriced power supply

[lyric thistle]

Ps2 been surprisingly supported

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMrYcf/seasonic-core-gm-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-core-gm-650

[jaunty nacelle]

need something to get windows on it

[earnest olive]

what?

[jaunty nacelle]

im only paying the $110 to get the usb and key

[earnest olive]

i got a 32gb usb for free from microcenter the other day

that worked fine

[jaunty nacelle]

i dont have a working pc

to download windows 10 onto a usb

[earnest olive]

i mean

i can access a pc at uni

or at work

[sand falcon]

Or at the library or a friend's house

Or best buy or microcenter

[earnest olive]

idk if library is open

[jaunty nacelle]

u need administrator permission to download windows 10

[sand falcon]

Do you?

[jaunty nacelle]

yes

[earnest olive]

ask a friend then lol

[sand falcon]

It's just a file

[earnest olive]

don't pay $110 for windows

[jaunty nacelle]

none of my friends have a pc

[lyric thistle]

To download anything from a website, you don't need admin perms I don't think

[earnest olive]

not even a laptop?

[lyric thistle]

Only to run something

[jaunty nacelle]

lol not in contact with any of my friends so idk

[earnest olive]

do you live in the 1800s

[jaunty nacelle]

no

we just never happened to exchange info before covid

[earnest olive]

i don't know a single person that doesn't have at least one computing device

[jaunty nacelle]

i have a laptop

[earnest olive]

laptop works..

[jaunty nacelle]

but fan broke

so itll overheat

[earnest olive]

then buy a replacement fan for $5

[sand falcon]

Does it turn on

[jaunty nacelle]

ive replaced it before

[earnest olive]

still cheaper than $110

lol

[jaunty nacelle]

it makes a grinding noise

not comfortable with using it

[earnest olive]

replace it again..

[sand falcon]

That's fine for the time it'll take

[jaunty nacelle]

mb thats what i meant

i replaced it after it broke

but replacement still doesnt work

[earnest olive]

replace it again..

[jaunty nacelle]

what

[earnest olive]

there are so many solutions that involve not spending $110 for windows

[jaunty nacelle]

im not sure if its the fan though

[earnest olive]

no friends? ask family

[sand falcon]

Will it run for 30 minutes

[jaunty nacelle]

no family nearby with a pc

[earnest olive]

are you amish

asking seriously

[jaunty nacelle]

lol no

[sand falcon]

Do they have macs or Chromebooks?

[jaunty nacelle]

had to google what that meant

why do you ask

[cold sorrel]

Heck, I paid to have the fans in my laptop replaced because at the time it was cheaper than replacing the whole thing. (I spent 200 bucks to have it done by a shop. Still cheaper than the cost of buying a laptop with similar specs.)

[sand falcon]

Because you can use a mac or a chromebook to download windows

[lyric thistle]

Ouch

200 for some dinky fans

[jaunty nacelle]

on september my laptop fan made a grinding noise so i went on ebay, got a replacement fan, and replaced it but even after replacing it it still makes a grinding noise however its somewhat quieter than the original grinding noise

[earnest olive]

heck you can even use an android phone to install windows

[jaunty nacelle]

so i gave up on it

what

[earnest olive]

caveat being that it must be rooted as far as i know

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid&hl=en_US&gl=US

mount this and use windows iso

[cold sorrel]

That was the cost of part and labor. Since I got back a laptop that was no longer overheating and making an awful racket I felt it was worth it.

[potent portal]

Interesting, I usually just use DD to write the ISO to a USB from Android

[sand falcon]

Eyyyy, Fal'Cie made techie. Congrats fellow penguin!

[viral ore]

that sounds like too much effort lmao

[stoic island]

Nice

[earnest olive]

apparently jailbroken iphone can do it as well

[sand falcon]

We don't do that here

[viral ore]

yeah

iphone

[potent portal]

dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/id bs=1024
single command, done

[earnest olive]

my eyes fixate on the "=/"

[viral ore]

but why use an android phone when you could just use a pc

[earnest olive]

because apparently everyone he knows is amish @viral ore

[viral ore]

unless you need to write isos on the go or sumtin

[sand falcon]

Does the windows iso play nice with dd?

[potent portal]

Because sometimes you don't have access to a working PC lol

[earnest olive]

he doesn't know a single person that has any sort of computing device

[potent portal]

Yes I've used dd several times, it even UEFI boots

[sand falcon]

Nice

[viral ore]

interesting, i cannot comprehend your current circumstances lol

[cold sorrel]

And now, it would be much harder to get this laptop open due to the issue where I can't really close it anymore. (The hinges be busted.)

[sand falcon]

I will have to remember that

[earnest olive]

nobody in his family or friends owns a windows pc, laptop, macbook, chromebook, anything

[viral ore]

and he doesnt own one himself?

[earnest olive]

nope

[viral ore]

wack

[earnest olive]

i'm astounded as to how that's possible

[viral ore]

whats he doing with the boot usbs lol

[sand falcon]

He does, but it's ded

[jaunty nacelle]

wack indeed

[earnest olive]

i did humanitarian work in a village with no running water, one bathroom, and no electricity in most of the village

they still had one pc running windows

and a 4g access point

it was ancient but still worked

that pc could have gotten the windows installation media onto a usb

[jaunty nacelle]

is it a hassle using an android device to install windows onto a usb

[earnest olive]

is it rooted

[jaunty nacelle]

no

[earnest olive]

then yeah

[viral ore]

i would assume once you figure it out it wouldnt be that hard

[sand falcon]

You'll need a usb otg dongle, wouldn't you?

[viral ore]

getting all the dongles and setting up the phone itself is the only annoying part

after that ya just do it

[viral ore]

welp if it aint rooted then idk lol

[jaunty nacelle]

only solution is to spend $110 on windows 🤷‍♂️

[viral ore]

not really

you have the option of using one of the many PCs around you

[cold sorrel]

If I do indulge my curiosity and open up my ancient XP tower... would anyone be interested in seeing pictures if the inside is as terrifyingly dusty as I think it might be?

[stoic island]

Library is nice

[viral ore]

if you wanna send pics, feel free to

we have a channel for that lmao

[sand falcon]

There's another option actually

[jaunty nacelle]

huh

[earnest olive]

there are a lot of options but he doesn't seem want to do any of them lol

[sand falcon]

I have a good one that will work

[cold sorrel]

It's an ancient prebuilt I got from Walmart. (I did buy it new. I've just held onto it for a ridiculously long time.)

[earnest olive]

heck you could probably knock on random neighbors' doors and explain you need to set up a usb for a new pc and someone would eventually let you do it/do it for you

[jaunty nacelle]

lol no thanks

im a shy guy

[sand falcon]

https://www.amazon.com/Learn-Linux-Cinnamon-Bootable-Flash/dp/B07GJC3FTL/

[earnest olive]

could even pay them $20 to do it still cheaper than $110

[sand falcon]

Badda bing badda boom

[earnest olive]

install linux and then use it to install windows?

this is big brain time

[sand falcon]

Buy a Linux install USB, install linux temporarily, use Linux to make windows install USB

[viral ore]

omega brain time

[viral ore]

[sand falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-bowing-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-gif-5632990

[stoic island]

Smh

[earnest olive]

i have a better idea

just scream "LINUX SUCKS" and a linux user will appear

ask them for a linux usb to try it

then use that to install windows

[viral ore]

lol

[stoic island]

Lol

[sand falcon]

YES

[rich helm]

Almost got elite plus

[stoic island]

Uh

Buy a 3080

[jaunty nacelle]

lol ty

[earnest olive]

inb4 linux user appears out of a magic circle from your ceiling

[lyric thistle]

L-lijux sucks

Yeah screw Linux

[earnest olive]

bob where in my room are you going to appear from

[lyric thistle]

Hmm what's linux actually like?

Ya got a usb

[earnest olive]

depends a lot on what distro

[cold sorrel]

Wish I could get a 3060/3060Ti. (They're in the range of what I'd be comfortable spending on a single component.)

[lyric thistle]

[muted patio]

Not bad but get comfortable with the CLI interface

Easier sometimes to CLI than use the GUI

[earnest olive]

i used linux mint for school, the basic user experience was a lot like windows

[muted patio]

apt-get will be your friend

[jaunty nacelle]

where can you get an rtx 3060 without spending $520

[earnest olive]

yeah definitely more command line usage

rarely pull up cmd on windows

[stoic island]

[muted patio]

Yup

[stoic island]

Pretty sure evga sells one of the 3060s for MSRP (330usd) on their site

[jaunty nacelle]

dont you have to sign up for a queue

[stoic island]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=12G-P5-3655-KR

[cold sorrel]

But, right now my best shot is entering the shuffles when 3060s are on offer. I have not the patience/time to camp a digital storefront to add one to my cart.

[stoic island]

ye

[jaunty nacelle]

isnt queue is like impossible if you didnt sign up on the release date

[earnest olive]

i've gotten a few gpus from newegg stock alerts and shuffle

just have to get lucky

[jaunty nacelle]

newegg prices are higher than other sites tho

[cold sorrel]

shrugs Where aren't they inflated because of the stock shortages?

[earnest olive]

newegg has some for msrp

bought 1 3080 and 2 3070s all at msrp from newegg

[jaunty nacelle]

i would get this but i dont think i would win newegg shuffle

[muted patio]

No harm in trying yeah?

[potent portal]

Can't win if you don't try

[jaunty nacelle]

[muted patio]

Doesn't cost you anything

[cold sorrel]

Also, a lot of the overpriced 3060s have a bunch of unnecessary bells and whistles that make them more expensive.

[mossy citrus]

o he left

[static ravine]

not really

some have a tad bit unnecessary cooler designs or something of the sort but besides that and rgb 3060s dont really have all that much bells and whistles

[sand falcon]

I'd come in through the window like a ninja

[earnest olive]

don't have a window

[potent portal]

real ninjas come in through the light fixture

[earnest olive]

i have a glass door is that close enough

[sand falcon]

That or the ceiling

I'm not picky

[earnest olive]

[ripe relic]

how to get 3060

and how much are the resells on 3060s

[still roost]

Dhada#7959 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[ripe wedge]

ha I won that one from the shuffle but newegg didnt let me buy it

[south ermine]

@violet harness sorry didnt see ur dm, accept my friend request so i can prove it

because i cant show proof if ur dms are disabled or u blocked me

not really possible

[jaunty nacelle]

lol what why

[ripe wedge]

sold out

lol

"reserved"

[wanton cliff]

Wdym

[thorny hinge]

Best pc for 1K US. No RGB. Possible?

Good pc*

[sand falcon]

Definitely possible

[thorny hinge]

No RGB though. Like 0 RGB.

[sand falcon]

Yup

[thorny hinge]

May I get some help?

I personally dislike RGB

[sand falcon]

Getting a parts list put together. You looking to do mostly gaming?

[thorny hinge]

Yes. Mostly gaming.

[lime creek]

Help Wanted Please!
Just built my PC with ASRock B450 -HDV, Ryzen 5 5600X, GeForce 1050TI, and 16 GB of RAM.

Updated the Bios on the Motherboard so that I could use the 5600X.

All is working. Except... the random and sometimes scary long blank screen flickers that happen whenever my son plays Minecraft (or his it open) while using another application.

Does anyone have knowledge that can help me solve this?

Is it a settings thing? Graphics Card issue?

[sand falcon]

@thorny hinge What games?

[thorny hinge]

Minecraft mainly

[muted patio]

What power supply and how old is the 1050TI? Have you use MSI Afterburner to check GPU and CPU temps?

Did you repaste the CPU after taking it out and putting it back in?

[sand falcon]

@thorny hinge Do you need wifi?

[lime creek]

Powerwatt is 500W and and it is brand new out of the box.

[thorny hinge]

Cuz I'm using a laptop with a Intel core i3 8130U with the built in graphics and I can only see 9 chunks with 60 fps

Yes Wi-Fi

[lime creek]

You helped me last time @muted patio and it worked I followed your directions and updated the BIOS.

[muted patio]

That's enough wattage but what brand and model?

[muted patio]

I see that, it's awesome!

Also, I'd check GPU temps with MSI Afterburner

WHile playing a game. 1050TI's are kind of old, might be getting hot. Also, did you reapply thermal paste to the CPU since you had to take it ou?

[sand falcon]

@thorny hinge The hard part will be finding a GPU. It will probably be worth looking for a new one on ebay

[lime creek]

EVGA is the brand

[thorny hinge]

Wait. So you don't only buy pieces from Newegg?

Huh. . .

[sand falcon]

Nah, that would be dumb

[muted patio]

N1? W1? BQ? BR?

[thorny hinge]

Damn. I'm dumb. XD

I am new to this whole PC building.

[muted patio]

Not Dumb. Just because Wegg server doesn't mean it has to be Wegg only. 🙂

[thorny hinge]

Got into it because of Linus

[sand falcon]

We're not actually working for newegg. Buy the part where you get the best price 🙂

[thorny hinge]

No, it's not that. It's just cuz I thought New egg was one of the best pricing things that won't scam.

[sand falcon]

They do have good prices, but you can get good prices at amazon etc too

[muted patio]

I mean, they're not bad. But if somewhere else has a sale....why not?

[wanton cliff]

TFW feeling not needed anymore because two techies in build chat

[thorny hinge]

Thank you all for your help. I feel enlightened.

[lime creek]

It just says EVGA 500W 80 PLUS (but I am not finding, anywhere on the box any of the initials you asked about.

[wanton cliff]

Not the front of the box?

[lime creek]

nope

[muted patio]

Hmmm, interesting. OK, I'd download MSI Afterburner, use the OSD (On Screen Display) to show CPU and GPU temps while gaming

[sand falcon]

@thorny hinge https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YKMvQD here you go

[lime creek]

Wait! It is on the front of the box. in the P/N. it's a W1

[muted patio]

Ah, Ok, that's fine. The system doesn't draw that much power

Let's move on to Temps

https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/3077/guide-how-to-install-enable-on-screen-display-in-msi-afterburner-rtss

[lime creek]

My son is playing right now. I will do in 20 minutes when his time is up.
In the meantime, I have a question: If it's a temperature issue then why does the screen only glitch when Minecraft is running.

I am wondering if Minecraft is the issue

[wanton cliff]

Maybe you simply have too many chunks being loaded at once

¯_(ツ)_/¯

More thing to keep track of for CPU = bad

[muted patio]

Because it's a load on the CPU?

Did you put new thermal paste on the CPU when you reinstalled it?

[lime creek]

Yes we used new thermal paste.

[muted patio]

Good

[lime creek]

Sara do you think. need to allot more space to minecraft.

[muted patio]

It's not a space issue

It's a temperature or GPU issue

The 1050TI's are old

It MIGHT be a power issue but I doubt it.

[lime creek]

My other son has the same graphics card and has not had a glitch. Why does it only happen on Minecraft?

[wanton cliff]

How much RAM do you have allocated now?

[muted patio]

Without knowing what the issue is, that's impossible to say. Could be drivers, could be any number of things

[wanton cliff]

I doubt it’s an issue but it could be

[muted patio]

You DID install all the motherboard drivers, right?

[wanton cliff]

RAM that is

[lime creek]

Definitely installed the motherboard driver. Where there multiple ones to install? I installed the one that allowed it to work with the Ryzen 500.

[muted patio]

That's the BIOS, not a driver

Drivers are for Windows

What board is it exactly and I'll get you the drivers to install

[lime creek]

Ughh. I didn't install the driver I just updated the BIOS.

[muted patio]

it's OK, i'll get you the drivers

[lime creek]

But everything is working except for the glitch.

[muted patio]

Yeah, could be a driver issue

Could be any number of things so we need to eliminate possibilities. This is much harder to figure out than the CPU/motherboard issue

[rich helm]

Drivers are annoying to install cause they take a long time but they help all your things on your motherboard work properly

[lime creek]

Ok.

[rich helm]

On Some motherboards I’ve worked with the Ethernet port doesn’t work until you install the lan driver

That’s how important for some things

[viral ore]

yeah, the "lan" driver is what runs the ethernet protocol

and it's called a NIC

[olive kraken]

Should I get 32gb of ram 2x16 for future proof(don't plan on upgrading in 5 ish years) or do you guys think 16 into 32 4x8 will be enough?

[potent portal]

You can do 16 now and upgrade later if you need it

[little osprey]

4x8 is enough

[still roost]

Dhada#7959 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

Dhada#7959 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[pliant lake]

lol

[potent portal]

RIP

[rugged cobalt]

Why , 😅

I just copy past my entire setup and im kicked lol

[potent portal]

Usually too many repeated letters in text

Better to do a pcpartpicker link or something

[rugged cobalt]

Not work lol

https:// setuplog.io /setup/71b9ykZl

@Dhada, sending links from that website isn't allowed in Newegg! ANGRY6

[sand falcon]

That's not a pcpartpicker link, that's why

[desert gulch]

mhmm

https://setuplog.io/setup/71b9ykZl

heres the link

[rugged cobalt]

Thx 👌😅

[sand falcon]

Not sure how I feel about that storage setup

Why bother with the Two SSDs if they're just going to be the exact same line?

It might also be worth seeing if you can push your infinity fabric clocks a bit higher for that ram

@rugged cobalt what sort of work are you doing on that thing?

[rugged cobalt]

@sand falcon

@sand falcon ''what sort of work are you doing on that thing? '' i play everything ,

[sand falcon]

So just gaming?

[dreamy thicket]

MOTHERBOARD: MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon
PROCESSOR: Ryzen 9 5900X
Cooler: Corsair H150i RGB PRO XT 360mm
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (16X2) DDR4 3200Mhz
GPU: INNO3D RTX 3090 iChill X4 24GB GDDR6X
SSD: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 256GB NVMe M.2
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 4TB - MFI
PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower Grand RGB 850w 80+ Gold Fully modular
FAN: Corsair QL120 9 Fan Pack
LED STRIP: Corsair Node Pro
CASING: Thermaltake View 51, is this a good setup

[rugged cobalt]

yeah ahah , @sand falcon

[sand falcon]

😢

That's not a gaming rig

[rugged cobalt]

that perfect for my 4k screen !

[sand falcon]

That's not a gaming rig

[dreamy thicket]

I have 4k

what is not a gaming rig @sand falcon

[sand falcon]

Dhada's rig

Yours falls into the same category, just less so

[dreamy thicket]

this is for making games

[sand falcon]

That will be good for game dev

[dreamy thicket]

@sand falcon oh ye I forgot mine is also 5950x

[sand falcon]

You might consider more SSD space though, especially if you deal with big assets

[dreamy thicket]

ok

[sand falcon]

Do you do local compilations?

[dreamy thicket]

no

[sand falcon]

Okay, cool

[dreamy thicket]

my pc is for gaming

@sand falcon

[sand falcon]

I thought you said it was for making games

[dreamy thicket]

no

[sand falcon]

Oh

[dreamy thicket]

I said it was good

for it

[sand falcon]

That's not a gaming rig

[dreamy thicket]

what is it

[sand falcon]

That's a workstation

Gaming doesn't need that much power

[dreamy thicket]

Also I have 3 monitors 4k

[sand falcon]

Why though?

[dreamy thicket]

idk

I just have like 8000 dollar budget

they are ultra wid

e

[sand falcon]

I'd go with one 4k monitor, a high refresh rate 1080p or 1440p, and then some nice but cheaper monitor for the third

[dreamy thicket]

ok

[sand falcon]

No reason to get 3 4k ultrawides, have you seen the Linus video where they do that?

[dreamy thicket]

no

[sand falcon]

One sec, I'll grab a screenshot

It's really clunky

[dreamy thicket]

chk

chunk

chunky

so chunk

@sand falcon is it ok if I wallmount them

[sand falcon]

Like top and bottom?

[dreamy thicket]

idk

[sand falcon]

idk, I'm not sure if that would be any better

wallmount is nice though

[dreamy thicket]

ok

[sand falcon]

Just make sure for a big monitor that your mount can support enough weight

You're probably only going to have your game on a single one of the monitors, so for the secondaries you might want to consider a different aspect ratio

[dreamy thicket]

ok

[sand falcon]

You should probably also be fine with a 5800x if you're only going to be gaming

[dreamy thicket]

so like zoom on 1 monitor discord on 1 and game on 4k

[sand falcon]

Yeah

[dreamy thicket]

or pc game on one ps5 on other and zoom

[sand falcon]

Sure

Put the savings from monitors into more SSD

[dreamy thicket]

ok

[sand falcon]

No reason to have that overkill of a build and only 256GB of SSD

That'll be the biggest bottleneck in the system

[dreamy thicket]

ok

[rugged cobalt]

@earnest olive rip GPU 😂

[earnest olive]

ain't got a need for a gpu for what this pc is doing

put a wifi card in the gpu slot so it looks less empty

lol

[potent portal]

smh if you wanted it to be less empty looking you could have done ITX

[earnest olive]

nah I grabbed it at microcenter for that sweet $230 price tag but they only had ATX Z490 boards

also ITX is more expensive and customer was on a budget

[potent portal]

@marble hedge I approve of your background image

[marble hedge]

Then youd love my tat

FF7 is my fav game and my first tat is the soldier first class emblem

[potent portal]

Sweeet
I've got a Triforce on my upper arm for my first one lol

[marble hedge]

Nice

[pure iron]

Green lines automatically equals a bad gpu? Thoughts?

[stoic island]

Not necessarily, the monitor could be at fault, or some other weird thing, but the GPU would be the most likely possibility

[pure iron]

Everything is brand new. Monitor works fine with xbox. This will really be a bummer.

[potent portal]

Check for loose cords too

And in another port on the GPU

[stoic island]

A reset cmos never hurts, new drivers/rolling back to old drivers might help.

[languid cedar]

So my friend was wanting his first gaming/school pc

and i made a list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ZjpLP

any recomdations

i spelt that wayyy wrong

[quasi snow]

10400f+b560m saves a solid 80 bucks off of that for the same gaming performance

[languid cedar]

what is 10400f?

[muted patio]

Mushkin Pilot E saves another $40

[quasi snow]

and that psu isn't too good, I'm not sure what's the cheapest good psu right now

phanteks amp is good

[languid cedar]

ohh

[quasi snow]

10400f is intel's 6c12t cpu

or the one that's close to the 3600

[languid cedar]

yeah i just realized that

whats a good 560 mobo

they are all either unrated or have no pices

[quasi snow]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157978

[fossil cedar]

Guys 720 for a rtx 3070?

[languid cedar]

founders edition is 500

[fossil cedar]

Well i cant get that

It's a gigabyte 3x fan

[languid cedar]

oh

yeah not too sure

do i need to install windows for the full price or just get a oem

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mt2mp2

[lean stump]

i got windows pro 64bit for legit .30$

dont spend over 100$ on that its so usless

[quasi snow]

yeah you can find it cheap online

[languid cedar]

oh ok

ok

thanks for the help

i gtg to school now

[quasi snow]

also for intel you can drop that ram down to 3200

[lean stump]

yea intel dosnt rely on ram as much as ryzen

[static ravine]

Sweet spot for intel is like 3200 on boards that support it

[lean stump]

yea

[static ravine]

if you want to you can bump it up to 3600 but 3200 is usually fine

[lean stump]

you really dont need it tbh yea it would be nice but just stay wit 3200\

[static ravine]

yet again depends on budget

[lean stump]

true true

[robust lake]

@fossil cedar its fine with taxes and shipping

The msrp for gigabyte gaming oc is 570$

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i bought it thanks

[robust lake]

I have same one :)

[fossil cedar]

Yeah the €720 included taxes and shipping

[robust lake]

Yeah its fine i guess

[fossil cedar]

It's ntb because i think the MSRP of 3070 is 550 here or something

[robust lake]

I need topay 17% taxes +40$ shipping

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[robust lake]

So it was + 200$

Still worth it in my country they sell it for 1500$

[fossil cedar]

Well in Ireland tax is 23%

But shipping was only €5

[fossil cedar]

Exactly and I'm gonna mine on the side with it anyway and it's gonna be a massive improvement over my r9 380 so

[robust lake]

Yeah

[blazing aurora]

good god

in that case 720 pounds isn't that bad

i've seen people pay 800 for a 3060ti

[static ravine]

23%

[languid cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DdXk3Z

thoughts?

is there anything i can trade for less money

[static ravine]

wait im checking

[languid cedar]

you name is 👌

[static ravine]

pay a bit more for a better cooler

[languid cedar]

👍

[static ravine]

get an se 224 xt instead

better cooler for only a fwew bucks more

[balmy patio]

the psu can be changed to a segotep 750w, the ram could be cheaper and the case could be something else

and also, you don't need new thermal paste

[static ravine]

get a segotep 700w instead

[static ravine]

get crucial ballistix wulshy

get a different keeb

K55 isnt that great

[balmy patio]

idk about peripherals smh

if the mouse feels good and the keyboards work, it's good enough for me smh

[languid cedar]

same

[static ravine]

but when you can pay the same amount for a better keeb I would say drop the k55 for something else

your headset, monitors, and mouse are good

[balmy patio]

same

[languid cedar]

what do you recommend for a keeb

[fossil cedar]

Well euro not pound so acc way less than 720 pounds but yeah

[static ravine]

tbh you can pay like 80 for a segotep 700w get an SE 224 XT for 35 - 40 get crucial ballistix instead and get a better keeb also drop thermal paste you dont need

[fossil cedar]

Sales tax is included in our prices but 23% is normal ish rate around Europe

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Hz6gt @languid cedar you can save monis by going 650w later on when the 750w goes back up in price

[static ravine]

for a keeb you can get a G.skill km360 which has mx reds

[static ravine]

this is the ideal list tbh

unless you really need @languid cedar try your best to get 3060 ti instead it is a better value than 3070

[balmy patio]

yee

especially since you had 1080p144 monitors

[static ravine]

its 100 cheaper and only 10% less perf

[balmy patio]

no reason to go 3070 if you're sticking with 1080p tbh

[static ravine]

for 3070 id recommend 1440p high refresh

[rich helm]

@languid cedar for keeb km360 or a keychron

[static ravine]

yes

[rich helm]

I have a km360

I want to buy keychron tho

[static ravine]

so do i and tbh I really like it

wait doesnt 10400f and 3070 bottleneck a bit

wait no it doesnt

maybe a little not that much

[balmy patio]

i mean

it will bottleneck but it's not really that noticeable imo

[static ravine]

I dont think its that bad

[balmy patio]

unless you play at 1080p and jump from a 10400f to 5900x

[static ravine]

yea its probs not noticeable

[balmy patio]

especially at higher resolutions where the gpu does most of the work

[rich helm]

Depends on the game

[static ravine]

I'd say wulshy should get 3060 ti if he'd use 10400f and 3070 at 1080p

[rich helm]

Yeah 3060ti is definitely the better choice for 1080p

3060ti can handle 1440p decently too

[static ravine]

I say he gets a 1440p instead of one of the 1080p displays because with a 3060 ti he'd save 100 bucks which is about enough to bump up to 1440p

[fossil cedar]

I mean it depends what you can find at an okay price like

[static ravine]

id say he should try to find an FE

[fossil cedar]

Yeah if they can snag one anyway

[static ravine]

ik it'll be hard but I'd say it'll definitely be worth it

[rich helm]

I bought a 1440p monitor this morning for my 3060ti

Can’t wait for it to arrive

[static ravine]

1440p and 3060 ti is a good match

[balmy patio]

yee

especially if you're playing games that aren't too hungry for power such as r6, csgo, race game, etc

[static ravine]

yea

things like warzone and apex would run great on 1440p and a 3060 ti

and even more demanding games would run and look great on a 3060 ti

[rich helm]

I’m going to experience higher than 60hz for the first time lol

Well my vr headset runs at 70hz

[static ravine]

lol

[ember crystal]

All I need is my graphics card now 😭 I’m done the build but haven’t won the shuffle once

[static ravine]

oof

Gl with the shuffle

[torpid notch]

cries in 30 fps Nintendo switch

[rich helm]

I feel you

Nintendo needs to release switch pro

[balmy patio]

fr bruh

[fossil cedar]

Does switch not play any games in 60fps ripp

[balmy patio]

no i don't recall any

[static ravine]

lol\

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[balmy patio]

i mean it won't matter that much, most of the games don't have fast movements, what would be nice is to have a better picture quality

[little osprey]

@rugged cobalt how big is the main montor

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i just remember hearing that when they hadn't announced overwatch on the switch properly and they were like gonna lock it to 30fps and it being a shooter i was like no.... Nooooooo

[balmy patio]

ikr bruh smh

smash would look nice at 60fps tho

games like zelda, mario odyssey, mario brothers, and other basic storyline games are good enough with 30

[rugged cobalt]

Lg 38gn950b 38" utrawide lg cx48 48" asus pg278qr 27"

[little osprey]

ok

you pass

[fossil cedar]

Yeah even if it only did 60fps while docked to save battery life r sum

[lone trellis]

Can i get a build list thats under 800

[fossil cedar]

Including gpu?

And for gaming?

800 is cutting it close ngl

[lone trellis]

idc ill camp best buys website if i have to

[fossil cedar]

Mainly cuz of gou shortage atm

The thing is the cheapest rtx 3000 series card atm is the 3060 for 329 but there's no FE so it's more like a 350 card if you can get the evga model and that's not very much for rest of pc but you might be able to squeeze one into that budget

[lone trellis]

ok

[stoic island]

@lone trellis
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vBpBt8

[little osprey]

good luck getting a 3060

at msrp

[stoic island]

I mean, patokav already gave them the warning so I didn't bother repeating it

[desert gulch]

Mr1 is sn750 faster than a pilot e in a 500 gig capacity?

[stoic island]

shouldn't

at 1tb pilot e is faster iirc

[fossil cedar]

Yeah there's like 2 3060s at $350 but not like you can get 1650s for cheaper anymore lol

[open ginkgo]

Can someone let me know what they think a good upgrade for me would be if I don't want to spend more than like $800-$1000

[trim orbit]

well what do you have now

[open ginkgo]

Cpu: 8350k
Gpu: 1060 6gb
Mobo: z370 aorus gaming 7

[little osprey]

no

[open ginkgo]

550 watt psu I think

[little osprey]

old

[trim orbit]

well thats not that bad

[open ginkgo]

That's my current rig

Wanna upgrade

[fossil cedar]

They just Asked what they should upgrade it with lol

[trim orbit]

1060 is decent in this market

[open ginkgo]

Im thinking 3060 ti and 9900k

So I can keep mobo

[trim orbit]

so, i have a couple things to reccomend

[fossil cedar]

That's a good idea tbh

[open ginkgo]

9900k? Nice

[fossil cedar]

Well to my knowledge it's the only 9th gen with hyperthreading

[open ginkgo]

My mobo doesn't have gen 4 lanes but I heard the difference is small

[trim orbit]

wellll... i would keep your gpu for now, and switch to amd... get an asrock b550 steel legend, amd ryzen 7 3700x

[fossil cedar]

Hardly any diff unless you wanna use gen 4 ssds

[trim orbit]

nah its a big difference

[fossil cedar]

No