building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

Yeah like their 12v power supplies

Which that computer definitely has looking at the board in the photos

[fossil cedar]

Vintageracer is right select the 2x8gb ram model instead of 1x16gb

[muted patio]

Does it show in this config? https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/dell-g5-gaming-desktop/spd/g-series-5000-desktop/gd5090g530s?configurationid=9db89255-6a48-4e3b-a9b0-0342cf04f43e

Otherwise for $900 it's good

[potent portal]

Yeah it shows 2x8

[fossil cedar]

By the sound's of things they aren't gonna upgrade they just want it to work

[muted patio]

Yup

[potent portal]

Yeah it's more nit-picky problems than REAL problems

[cosmic basin]

Got ya I probably don’t have to upgrade

[muted patio]

Also, at $900, that's better than you can do at Build Redux

or the other sites so go for it

[potent portal]

Yeah buildredux would probably try to stick you with a 10400 or less at that price

[muted patio]

THey do

[fossil cedar]

Make sure to get this version instead https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/dell-g5-gaming-desktop/spd/g-series-5000-desktop/gd5090g530s?configurationid=9db89255-6a48-4e3b-a9b0-0342cf04f43e

Tbf i didn't actually expect to find an alright prebuilt that quickly

Or that good of deal

[potent portal]

Right, 17% off is nothing to sneeze at when you're talking over $1000

[cosmic basin]

@fossil cedar ok what’s the reasoning? And thanks I don’t have any idea haha I’ve done some research but it’s a lot to take I

[potent portal]

It has 2 sticks of RAM instead of one

[muted patio]

Dual channel ram, increases system speeds

[fossil cedar]

^ for free bit of speed bump

[scenic quiver]

man i should've stuck with quick format, i dont remember it taking this long to format a usb drive lol

[muted patio]

lol

[potent portal]

Yeah long formats it will try to reset all the 1s to 0s and fully wipe out the data so it's much less likely to be recovered

[fossil cedar]

Sure how else is he supposed to get rid of incriminating evidence XD

[cosmic basin]

@fossil cedar i just went and looked at the recommendation should I get it as is or is there any upgrades you may recommend looks like there’s some options

[muted patio]

You're doing photos and videos, yeah?

[fossil cedar]

I'd increase storage mb?

[cosmic basin]

Yeah and digital art

[muted patio]

Yeah, I would just up the storage. $60 doubles the size of both drives

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/dell-g5-gaming-desktop/spd/g-series-5000-desktop/gd5090g530s?configurationid=b45b1b3d-688d-47a5-a1ad-be652dbf1adf

[potent portal]

Totally worth $60

Or would it be more like $49 after the coupon?

[ripe wedge]

dell

[cosmic basin]

Ok cool and it’ll do three monitors for sure haha

[ripe wedge]

how much is it total? for me it shows $1.1k for a 10700f and 1650

[potent portal]

There's a 17% off coupon on the top of the page

[ripe wedge]

ah

down side to that prebuilt tho is you know they are going to put an awful cpu cooler on it

[potent portal]

Take a look at the pics, seems like it'll be enough even if it's a rebrand of a 212

[ripe wedge]

its not

its false

ive seen videos on it

[potent portal]

Ah did they mislead us on the cooler with the photos?

[ripe wedge]

yeah

[potent portal]

Figures Dell would be Dell

[ripe wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXmE8wESzFo&ab_channel=DawidDoesTechStuff

I know it isnt the same line

but still a high end cpu they put with that garbage cooler

[potent portal]

Not a huge loss though, throw a $20 cooler on top of the build and it's still under $1000

[ripe wedge]

true

[cosmic basin]

@potent portal so is that something I can do haha

[potent portal]

If needed, depending on what you actually get sent

If it's the cooler in the photos, you're fine. If it's the cheapo cooler Jake showed then probably a good idea.

[ripe wedge]

also another thing they do is use proprietary mobo connectors

[cosmic basin]

Is that something you get from them or another source or are odds I won’t have to worry about it

[potent portal]

Yeah we already mentioned the 12v power supply lol

[ripe wedge]

ah

[potent portal]

Upgrading won't be a concern

[cosmic basin]

Ok thanks

[potent portal]

Now that I look at it, the pictures show 2 different coolers lol

Maybe the 212 is there for scale?

[clever eagle]

help i have 32 gb ram but pc pc only using 16

[muted patio]

What do you mean only using 16 GB?

Only 16 showing in task manager?

[clever eagle]

no it says 32 but its never using more than 16 and it uses page file and compress ram

[scenic quiver]

@muted patio I believe I am having some success with this bios flash. So I reformatted another usb drive, put my bios file on root, put it in mobo, and within a few seconds of pushing the flash button, the board RGBs lit up and PSU fan turned on. as of now the bios flash button indicator light is no longer lit nor blinking and we have solid RGBs. Can I assume thats a successful flash and I can carry on installing the new CPU and other bits as usual?

[feral leaf]

Can some one help me my pc is on a automatic repair

[muted patio]

I would say yes

[feral leaf]

Jdjdidirj

[muted patio]

Let it repair and restart as much as it needs to

[feral leaf]

Ok thanks

[muted patio]

That's what auto repair is for, just let it run

[austere wagon]

Why is that dell computer more expensive than my computer when mine is superior in so many ways

[little osprey]

I have been looking into getting a pc because i currently play on a ps4 and i feel like i need the upgrade. I will be using this pc to play rocket league and valorant as my main games. I will also be using this for school purposes. I don’t have the time or the patience to build a pc so i will have to buy a prebuilt. My budget is around 1000-1200$... Is this pc a good deal, and if not could someone recommend me a prebuilt within the budget price range?

[austere wagon]

i mean thats a decent deal from what i know about PCs which is very little

i mean the graphics card is eh but itll run what you want

[muted patio]

Considering you can't find GPU's in stock right now, that's not bad XD

[austere wagon]

yeah

[little osprey]

Alright i’ll consider it and i’ll probably get it sometime in april

[austere wagon]

i was looking into the 1660 Ti but the 1070 Ti is about the same for what i want to run and i found a better deal

[muted patio]

Check back in April to see if things have changed any

[little osprey]

k thanks for the input

[vagrant olive]

prepping to start my build tonight but i dont have an anti static wristband, whats an easy way to ground myself

[sharp tundra]

Hey guys, you think Giga will release an Aorus X570 xtreme Waterforce since their making an z590 xtreme waterforce?

[serene spire]

I’m almost done with buying all my parts

[sharp tundra]

Kewl, can I see what you getting?

[sharp tundra]

Build barefoot and not on carpet

[vagrant olive]

aight

[serene spire]

@sharp tundra ^

[sharp tundra]

Going for a white build I see

[serene spire]

Yeah white and pink or white and blue

[sharp tundra]

White and pink all the way

[brave cedar]

@fickle sail

the resemblance is uncanny

[lyric thistle]

Long lost screw driver

[brave cedar]

lmao I genuinely thought they had left a screwdriver in the pic when I first saw it

[serene spire]

@sharp tundra yeah the only reason I would go blue is because there’s an anime character I wanna theme my pc around but I’ll probably just stick white and pink

[sharp tundra]

I was wondering where i put that

[jagged ember]

@vagrant olive I plug in my psu into the wall, turn it on and touch a metal part on the surface

Ez static discharge to ground

[sharp tundra]

Really?

[jagged ember]

Yeah

It's connected directly to ground that way

And any static will discharge thru the metal casing

If not probably put in 1 screw on the end and touch that

Its a tecc tip from linus himself

[sharp tundra]

I'm having a dilemma

So the mobo I want to get is the Aoris x570 xtreme, and the case I want to get is the 5000d airflow, but I'm not sure if the mobo will fit in that case

[rugged vector]

any build specs for 800$??

[sharp tundra]

What you need it for?

Ight

Guess not

[rancid lodge]

Just finished my build and turned it on, RAM Qled is on and it won’t boot

[thick jungle]

yo guys i nee help with creating a pc set up can u guys help me?

[rancid lodge]

Reseated it multiple times

And tried individual modules

Still not booting

Any suggestions?

[potent portal]

What budget? Do you need peripherals like monitor, keyboard?

[thick jungle]

yeah i need peripherals

so my setup budget is like 2.5k in CAD (2k in USD)

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GsW3Xb

this is what i have

[potent portal]

Reset CMOS. Yes I know it's new. Do it anyway.

[rancid lodge]

How do I do that?

[thick jungle]

the pc is gonna be used for gaming and streaming

[sharp tundra]

It could be better, give me a min

[thick jungle]

okieieeee

[sharp tundra]

Whit or black?, rgb or no rgb?

[thick jungle]

black, rgb

[sharp tundra]

Kk

[thick jungle]

the build i sent is already black and has rbg

I'm also waiting until after covid and waiting for sales for optimal prices

[potent portal]

Unplug power. Hold power button 60 seconds. If your board has a BIOS/CMOS reset button, hold that for 60 seconds. Otherwise you'll need to remove the battery from the board and wait 10 minutes. Then you can plug it back in and try again.

[rancid lodge]

Alright

[rustic storm]

How good would that pc be @thick jungle ?

[thick jungle]

wdym? in terms of what?

[rustic storm]

gaming

[thick jungle]

the heaviest game that i'd play on it i believe would be games like pubg or cod

other games i'd wanna play are val, minecraft with mods, league

@rustic storm

I'm also trying to stream on it sooooo there's a plus on that

[sharp tundra]

Alroght, I gotcha

[thick jungle]

also for the memory, the cl18 is cheaper than the cl16 where i am idk if that's important

[sharp tundra]

@thick jungle so here's a good build for ya, I gave you $500 to find peripherals cause I'm not too good with that department, but I did add a monitor, you could also get gpu with rgb aswell, I just added the FE cause it's cheaper.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQ3ZdD

[rustic storm]

I am new to the Building and I am trying to figure out what I need and want to buy and what's good or not I have about 2.5k USD saved up.

[potent portal]

Lower CL is better

[rustic storm]

to Building PC*

[desert scarab]

Ayooo

[rustic storm]

Sup Speedy

[desert scarab]

I got a question guys

[potent portal]

Do you have peripherals like monitor and keyboard?

[thick jungle]

thank you so much i've been looking everywhere for help

[rustic storm]

no that is what I am trying to figure out

[thick jungle]

why is that?

[sharp tundra]

@thick jungle you could also get a 3080 with that budget too

[desert scarab]

The fan came w 2 parts

Do I plug both in

?

[potent portal]

Just one, that's for chaining fans together

[desert scarab]

Chaining?

[sharp tundra]

@thick jungle that would leave you with $300 for the rest of your peripherals which is good

[potent portal]

Daisy Chaining, you plug one fan into the motherboard cord, another fan into that fan, and another fan into that fan... Until you're out of fans

[thick jungle]

i only need like 200 for peripherals lmao

[desert scarab]

Oh am I able to do that?

[sharp tundra]

Even better, give me a minute to update the list for you@thick jungle

[desert scarab]

I have 3 uphere fnas

Fans

[potent portal]

Which ones exactly? This? https://www.amazon.com/uphere-3-Pack-Computer-120mm-Cooling/dp/B072LDYKQ6

[sharp tundra]

@thick jungle so here's the updated list, I added a cooler too because I forgot the 5800x doesn't come with one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tPxsfP

[thick jungle]

YOoooooo thanks a lot

[desert scarab]

No those Hol op

[sharp tundra]

Np

[desert scarab]

Not*

[potent portal]

CAS Latency is measured in clock cycles (which can be counted in nanoseconds)
Lower latency is good because there are fewer nanoseconds between reads

[thick jungle]

woahhhhh okok cool

[desert scarab]

Their red LED

@potent portal

[thick jungle]

I'm new if you couldn't already tell

[potent portal]

No problem, we'll catch you up quick 😉

[sharp tundra]

Well that has to do with speeds and cl

[thick jungle]

Thank youuuuu ^-^

[potent portal]

Yeah I was keeping it simple, only mentioned CAS and not the 4 other latencies to worry about most as well

[sharp tundra]

Basically CAS is how often you get up off the couch, and Frequency is how much you do while you're off the couch

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Computer-Coolers-Radiators-R12CM3-3/dp/B078LWNFS9
This one?

[desert scarab]

https://www.amazon.com/upHere-Airflow-Coolers-Radiators-T3RD3-3/dp/B07HK5KWQY/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=uphere+red+fans&qid=1615606400&sr=8-3

[potent portal]

That's the connector you're talking about then? I'd recommend plugging the 3 pin into the motherboard and don't plug the other one in. If you plug the 4 pin one in it will run 100% constantly, no speed control.
Also definitely do not plug both 3 and 4 pin in unless you like fire.

[rancid lodge]

@potent portal didnt work but the mobo has a CMOS clear jumper (clears by shorting out the two pins with a metal object)

Should I try that?

[desert scarab]

So for each fan plug it into the motherboard?

[potent portal]

Yes, unless you don't have enough headers on the motherboard, then you can plug into the 4 pin

[desert scarab]

ALSOO

I have like built in fans

that came w the case

It looks like 4 pin though

so where do I plug that

?

[potent portal]

The jumper has the same effect as leaving out the battery.
Double check all your power connections, especially the 8 pin CPU power

[potent portal]

So out of the 2 in the picture it looks like the 4 pin on the left?

[desert scarab]

no forget about those in the picture

I mean like my actual case that I bought came w 2 case fans in the front

[sharp tundra]

Bruh, Corsair has Air coolers?

This is a new discovery for me

[potent portal]

Yes, good, expensive ones at that

[muted patio]

Hyper 212

[potent portal]

Right but you said they had a 4 pin plug? Does it look more like the one on the left or is it 4 pins like the one on the right?

[rancid lodge]

Seems like they’re all solid, any other suggestions?

[potent portal]

Modular power supply? Did you check the cables on the PSU end?

[rancid lodge]

I’d be surprised if both modules are dead

Yeah I did

[potent portal]

I'd be surprised too but it has happened before

[rancid lodge]

RAM light instantly goes on though

[desert scarab]

4 pins like right

[rancid lodge]

Could it be compatibility?

[potent portal]

That 5900X in your name is the one on the board?

[rancid lodge]

Yeah

Board is x570 tuf gaming pro WiFi

[rancid lodge]

RAM is Gskill ripjaws V (3600 CL16)

[potent portal]

Perfect those will do even better plugged into the motherboard instead, and any extra fans can plug into the power supply

[desert scarab]

Oh okay

I’m a bit confused also where to plug in the fans

Into which?

[potent portal]

I wouldn't worry about G.Skill being compatible, they tend to be pretty good about that. You said you just did the flashback?

[rancid lodge]

I didn’t yet

I did clear CMOS

[rancid lodge]

Could the BIOS being outdated cause RAM issues?

[potent portal]

Ahh yes you need to update the BIOS using flashback before it will be compatible with 5000 series CPU

[rancid lodge]

Okay so that’s why the RAM light is on?

[potent portal]

Right. Because the RAM controller is on the CPU.

[rancid lodge]

Yeah okay

I’ll do that

[desert scarab]

so do I plug it into The rgb LED header?

@potent portal

[potent portal]

3 is for the CPU fan, use 2, 14, 23, and 28 (If you're just doing air cooling, no liquid pumps)

[desert scarab]

Ok

[rancid lodge]

@potent portal downloaded latest bios driver, but can I even do the flashback without working RAM?

I pushed the button and it may have done something

Cause it won’t press anymore

[potent portal]

Let me double check the directions

[desert scarab]

Wait but those parts say Chassis/Water pump Fan connector

[rancid lodge]

It’s stiffened so I can’t press it again

So I assume it’s doing something

[sharp tundra]

Alright, I've finally settled, this computer is going inside a Corsair 5000D Airflow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k2VwnL

[rancid lodge]

Also just to make sure, I do put the RAM sticks next to each other in different channels to go dual channel correct?

[sharp tundra]

No, furthest slot from the cpu, and second slot from the cpu

[rancid lodge]

Oh okay, yeah I tested it like that and it still didn’t work regardless

[potent portal]

Counting from the CPU, they should be in slots 2 and 4

[rancid lodge]

Yeah alright

[sharp tundra]

Same goes if you ever decide you need something that supports quad channel memory

[rancid lodge]

Oh uh something is happening

[sharp tundra]

Hopefully a boot, lol

[rancid lodge]

There’s a green LED flashing inside the mobo next to the flashback button

[sharp tundra]

Um

[rancid lodge]

I turned the PC off so

Maybe that’s a good thing?

[sharp tundra]

You have a b550 board?

[rancid lodge]

X570

[sharp tundra]

Oh

[rancid lodge]

Oh I had to rename it

I didn’t extract the ZIP at all

[potent portal]

Yep, each brand does it different too

[rancid lodge]

Didn’t think I needed to

Or do I not need to extract it at all

[potent portal]

You need to extract it

To a USB formatted to fat32

[rancid lodge]

Gotcha, alright give me five minutes to do that

No idea what my USB is formatted to

Manual says 16/32 works

32/16*

[potent portal]

What size is it?
Literally nothing uses fat16 any more, it's too small

[rancid lodge]

128 GB

[potent portal]

Then it might be exfat or ntfs...
Do you have access to another computer?

[rancid lodge]

Yeah one sec I’ll go to it

Alr plugged in and in file explorer

[potent portal]

Once you're on there plug the drive in and right click the drive in my computer (this PC, whatever it's called now) and hit properties

Should say file system right there

[rancid lodge]

It’s 32

Okay so I just need to extract and rename it

[potent portal]

Good, it'll work then following the other steps with the renaming

[desert scarab]

Fal there a black thing on top stopping me from plugging in the 4 pin fan for 14

@potent portal

[potent portal]

Move it one pin to the right

[rancid lodge]

Okay so do I shutdown or completely unplug @potent portal

[rancid lodge]

I assume shutdown would be fine?

[desert scarab]

I can’t it’s 4 pin

Fan

[potent portal]

Yes shutdown is good

[rancid lodge]

Alright so mobo RGB is on and that green light is blinking, so I’ll just follow the remaining steps

[potent portal]

And it's a 4 pin fan you're plugging in? Maybe it's upside down

[rancid lodge]

Also the flashback button can’t be pressed again, it’s stiffened out

Light is still blinking though

[potent portal]

Hopefully it still works

[still roost]

SniperBoss207#3153 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rancid lodge]

Yeah probably messed something up

[potent portal]

There's recovery options for that board if it did a bad flash

[rancid lodge]

Unplugged it and it went straight back to flashing

Yeah it’s flashing at equal intervals with occasional rapid bursts

[potent portal]

Try to wiggle the flashback button to get it out?

[rancid lodge]

The actual button is locked by the board

Similar to when my iPhone dies, I can’t press down on the home button

[desert scarab]

@potent portal

That’s the way I’m plugging it in

[rancid lodge]

It’s locked into place as far as I can tell, it’s all the way out and won’t go back

Wait hold on

Green light is now solid

[potent portal]

Ah no that looks like something else

[rancid lodge]

Stopped blinking completely

Now just a solid green light

[desert scarab]

huh??

[potent portal]

That doesn't look like a fan cable

[rancid lodge]

Any idea why it’s solid green now

[potent portal]

Manual says the green light goes out when it's done, give it a few minutes

[desert scarab]

I think it is

It’s coming from the fan

[potent portal]

I had to download the pic and zoom in, it looked hollow on discord lol

Yes that's a fan

[desert scarab]

Why won’t it plug in??

[rancid lodge]

Yeah can I just restart this process with whatever that recovery process is

[desert scarab]

nvm it’s in

[potent portal]

It should, it appears to be fine and the right shape

[desert scarab]

Does it matter which way u plug in the fan??

[potent portal]

It can take up to 10 minutes for the flash

[desert scarab]

Like u see the lines should it look up or down?

[potent portal]

Yes, it will only fit one way

[desert scarab]

which way

[rancid lodge]

Oh alright, I thought it was only supposed to blink three times

That’s why I assumed it was bugged

[desert scarab]

Lines facing up or down?

[potent portal]

The power wires? Up

[rancid lodge]

Let’s just take a moment to appreciate this man helping both of us idiots simultaneously

[potent portal]

😅

[desert scarab]

LMAOOO

Fr

💀

This my first pc build so

[potent portal]

First one is the hardest, but also the most fun figuring everything out

[rancid lodge]

Yeah this is my second but uh, my first time doing a lot

[potent portal]

Well the flashback is a pretty new, and weird, requirement

[rancid lodge]

Yeah

[desert scarab]

Uh are u sure

It can only go in 1 way?

[potent portal]

Yes, to prevent short circuits

[desert scarab]

Like that?

[potent portal]

Right. I've had to (barely) bend the pins back to get around that plastic clip before

[desert scarab]

Uhhh

I did it upside down for my cpu and other fan

It went it fine tho

[potent portal]

The top ones are flipped from the bottom ones

[rancid lodge]

Alright well it’s been about 12-13 minutes now for the bios flashback and it’s not exactly been solid green like it says it should be

Should I wait a bit more or just restart the process

[potent portal]

Try again, and try to find another, smaller USB. Sometimes 16GB+ they don't like.

[rancid lodge]

Don’t think I have anything smaller but this one has nothing on it

[desert scarab]

Bro whayyy 😭

hold up

what

[rancid lodge]

Also uh I unplugged the USB and, it’s now solid green

[potent portal]

To make sure you're paying attention 😆

[potent portal]

Well maybe give it couple more minutes then

[rancid lodge]

Should I plug it back in then?

[rancid lodge]

Or just leave it out

[desert scarab]

Basically I plugged in the top one like this

[potent portal]

Right, because the clip is on the bottom on the top slots (this only gets more confusing when they try to explain why)

[desert scarab]

uhhhh

okay

Top lines face down

Bottom lines face up

got it

[potent portal]

Yep

[rancid lodge]

Alright yeah it’s not doing anything, so how do I go about restarting it

[potent portal]

Flip the power switch

[rancid lodge]

Alright, then just restart from the top?

[desert scarab]

Ok now

What do I do about my 3 pin fans, the uphere ones @potent portal

I got 3 fans

[potent portal]

Correct, and still try to find that other USB

[rancid lodge]

Yeah I don’t have another one

I have another one of the same size

[potent portal]

I think you should have one more motherboard slot, and the other 2 can plug into the PSU molex connector

[desert scarab]

Yeah but that slot has 4 pins

My fan is 3 pin

[potent portal]

That's fine, it'll just run in 3 pin mode

They're compatible

[balmy patio]

^

unless you somehow mix up the rgb connector and fan connector

[potent portal]

I've seen someone bend the pins to get that to work too lol

[desert scarab]

Ok so the other 2 fans

I connect to mobo? The

PSU*

[potent portal]

Right, your power supply will have a connector referred to as molex, the fat 4 pin one.

Those fans will run full speed, if it gets annoying enough you can get splitters or a hub

[rancid lodge]

I’ve let it run for a bit now, still flashing green

I’ll go search for another flash drive but it’ll likely be older if there is one

@potent portal Could it be that I’ve screwed it up somehow and need to do a recovery like you mentioned before?

[potent portal]

Older is fine, as long as it still works
Recovery is a last ditch effort since I don't know if it works without a CPU

[rancid lodge]

Alright I’ll try finding a smaller one

I found one that’s 59 MB

But uh it says the file system is FAT @potent portal

No FAT32

[potent portal]

Old fashioned FAT will work too

[rancid lodge]

Alright

Oh do I take the CAP file out of the folder it’s in? @potent portal

It’s in a folder with the renamer program

[potent portal]

Shouldn't matter

[rancid lodge]

Alright

I turned the power on and off and the light keeps blinking when I turn it back on @potent portal

Even though I’ve taken out the other USB

[potent portal]

Might have something to do with the flash button being stuck. See if you can get it loose, but don't force it

[rancid lodge]

Does not appear to be stuck

I’ll see if I can fiddle with it

Got some tweezers and pulled it out and restarted the process

[rancid lodge]

Okay it’s been a bit and no luck, light has been blinking in a slightly different pattern but hasn’t stopped

Any suggestions?

[potent portal]

Is it in the right USB port?

[rancid lodge]

It’s in the one that says “BIOS” over it with the black border

[rancid lodge]

Yep

Is it possible that it just doesn’t like the older FAT

[potent portal]

Not likely but you can switch back

[rancid lodge]

Alright I’ll give it one more shot tonight with the other one

[rancid lodge]

Gave it 20 mins and no luck, gonna give it up for tonight

Hopefully it’s not bad enough that I need to disassemble and return the thing

Thanks again Fal

[potent portal]

Yeah the crashfree bios recovery is very vague on how it works, better to tackle it tomorrow

I'll leave this here for you @rancid lodge

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/TUF_GAMING_X570-PRO_WI-FI/E16844_TUF_GAMING_X570-PRO_WI-FI_UM_WEB.pdf

[rancid lodge]

Will that work with no RAM

I can’t even get it to boot so I’m not sure how I’d enter the bios

[potent portal]

Honestly it doesn't say even under the flashback page whether you should even have the CPU plugged in. Extremely vague instructions.

[rancid lodge]

Yeah I have the CPU in so who knows, maybe that’s it

I don’t have a earlier generation of AMD CPU so

this is the only way I can do it

[potent portal]

I wish there was some kind of hardware trading community that would just pass around cheap old zen APUs for just the shipping cost

[muted patio]

AMD will ship you one

There's a program for that

[potent portal]

They will? Why haven't I heard of this before

[rancid lodge]

mmm I just don’t want to wait that long, so hopefully this bios flash will work out tomorrow

[muted patio]

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

Bottom of the page

[potent portal]

I mean, lucky for me I was just upgrading from zen+ but that's really cool

[muted patio]

SHort Term Processor Loan Boot kit

Oh maybe not

That program was for B450/X470 boards

[rancid lodge]

Yeah

[muted patio]

Might still do it for 5000 series tho?

[rancid lodge]

Maybe idk

But yeah I really need this thing running by Sunday or Monday so I do have a friend with a 3600 I could borrow as a last resort lol

[muted patio]

Just out of curiosity, have you tried to boot at all?

[rancid lodge]

Yeah

[muted patio]

with ram and everything?

[rancid lodge]

Yep

[potent portal]

Yes, DRAM light

[rancid lodge]

Mhm

So yeah hopefully tomorrow I can either get flashback working or just go grab a 3600 from a friend

[brittle tinsel]

https://www.fingerhut.com/product/SD232.uts?cat=4

Could this hold a 850watt plus some monitors or at least one?

[muted patio]

Yes

[brittle tinsel]

How many’s watts does a monitor pulll?

[muted patio]

Well, your PC won't be pulling the full 850W

So plenty of overhead with a 900 Watt UPS

[wanton cliff]

Like maybe 100w

Max

[muted patio]

Less

[wanton cliff]

Idk, my Index pulls 65

[brittle tinsel]

I don’t know how to check but have 2 aoc 24 inch curved 1080p 144hz monitors

[wanton cliff]

But its also powered through a Mini DP cable so

[muted patio]

15-30 W

[brittle tinsel]

What do you mea

Mean

[little osprey]

Also UPS is helpful during outages, but won't really be used if power is fine.

[muted patio]

That's what it's for

[wanton cliff]

Why do you randomly boost and then not boost

So random

[little osprey]

idk

[muted patio]

Figure about 40 watts each for a 24" monitor, probably less

[brittle tinsel]

That’s exactly what it’s for, if you sneeze you lose power where I’m at

[little osprey]

On note of losing power

this week we had 4 rolling blackouts

someone crashed into a transformer. lmao

[wanton cliff]

How tf does an Index pull 65w through a Mini DP cable with USB and an actual DP attached to it then?

Makes no sense

[muted patio]

You think it's funny

[desert gulch]

i think its great value

[wanton cliff]

You just gonna annoy people like that tbh

[little osprey]

no, just that chance of it was ridiculous.

we've had so many people crash into the same one.

[desert gulch]

oof

[little osprey]

Its on a curve.

[desert gulch]

lol

[brittle tinsel]

Will there be a marking on the back of the monitor or wire that says how many watts?

[little osprey]

and people speed, and then turn

and then always knock it down lol

[desert gulch]

texas?

[little osprey]

Cali.

[desert gulch]

oof

typical cali thing

[wanton cliff]

Overpriced

[desert gulch]

ppl drive without proper tires smh

[muted patio]

Probably not?

[little osprey]

Our whole block went oofed.

An internet outage and a power outage this week.

[desert gulch]

put a bomb next to pole

so ppl who hit it blow up

[little osprey]

Of course i had important things to do.

[desert gulch]

an evga n1 would be a great start

[little osprey]

and oof, had to delay them.

[desert gulch]

plug it in and leave it there

[little osprey]

Im more of a P-GM type of guy

[desert gulch]

bomb has been planted

[little osprey]

Someone hit it at 5 am bruh

and my teacher sent the meeting time and it whack lul.

Ah yes.

Virtual tests at 9pm-3am

[desert gulch]

makes sense

[brittle tinsel]

What does va stand for and why do I need exactly 1500va to power a pc

[little osprey]

Volt-ampere?

i think

UPS is for small electronics iirc right?

And if you want your house to go brrrrrrr while outage.

use a generator.

[sacred totem]

is there a performance comptetive arm64 notebook out there vs the macbook M1?

[brittle tinsel]

I know that but having a ups for pc will prevent losing my new one to a surge. (Lost my last one and every single part that was in it is dead)

[muted patio]

You need the UPS to match the power consumption of the PC under full load

1500VA = 850-900 watts

[little osprey]

Is UPS worth it, or just a surge protector.

[muted patio]

If you hook that puppy up to a 1000 VA or 600 watt UPS, you're gonna smoke your power supplies like the last guy that blew 2 850 Watt Seasonics

[hollow grail]

ups good

[potent portal]

UPS is good to have time to close important programs

[brittle tinsel]

The one that died was in a surge protector,

So ups is next step

[little osprey]

._.

[potent portal]

And they'll often filter power

[brittle tinsel]

Good or bad?

[potent portal]

Good

[sacred totem]

no?

[little osprey]

Ive had surges, but never so far damaged my pc Sorry, that must of hurt.

[brittle tinsel]

This surge blew my psu wire up and the whole pc smells like burnt electronics

[wanton cliff]

How long does your average UPS last anyways?

[little osprey]

Whenever we have rolling blackouts i just yeet my pc out of the wall, because of it drops voltage, then it will cause a brownout

[muted patio]

As long as you change the batteries every 3-5 years

[little osprey]

We had a brown out on wednesday.

made sure to rip the pc, router, modem and fridge out of the outlet.

[potent portal]

Depends on VA capacity, matching VA to your expected power draw can usually get you 15 minutes.

[wanton cliff]

Wow 15?

Holy crap

[brittle tinsel]

That’s more than I need to save and shutdown

[muted patio]

it's not just about how long though

UPS is more than just a battery backup

[little osprey]

What is up with belkin surge protectors?

Are they just good or

[muted patio]

It's also an active filter

[little osprey]

See them used everywhere.

[muted patio]

Which means the output needs to match the power draw

[brittle tinsel]

What does that mean

[potent portal]

I've used a couple and never had anything fry so... good?

[muted patio]

The power doesn't go straight from the wall to the PC, it goes through active circuitry in the UPS

[little osprey]

Thats what my pc so far has been vibing in lol.

[muted patio]

Old UPS used to be a pass through

[little osprey]

Was wondering if they were just overrated.

[muted patio]

Not anymore

[potent portal]

Power coming from the wall can sometimes be "dirty" with uneven waves, a UPS creates an artificial "clean" sine wave

[little osprey]

or if they are actually good.

[frank stirrup]

Ups necessary in my country

[potent portal]

My belkins are going strong through several blackouts (people can't drive and hit power box, a transformer exploded in a storm one time...)

[desert gulch]

dirty power by itself wont damage a pc tho right?

[frank stirrup]

Yeah ups includes battery backup

[frank stirrup]

It can

[potent portal]

Not usually anything worse than shutting off or unstable for no other reason

[little osprey]

Yeah, I didn't have time to rip out my pc on wednesday during the start of the 2 hour rolling blackout

so it somehow was good

[muted patio]

Depends on the quality of the PSU you have

[desert gulch]

hmm

[little osprey]

Just this lul

2500J is the amount it can absorb?

[desert gulch]

its fully rated for outlet power right?

[wanton cliff]

I still don’t know the difference between a joule and a watt

[muted patio]

That doesn't do you any good for brownouts lulz

[desert gulch]

lol

maybe like a half millisecond

[little osprey]

lol

This is why after the first casual brownout, i rip everything from the wall

All outlets, electronics, fridge.

[ripe wedge]

@rancid lodge have you tried putting the gpu in the top slot? it might be booting but displaying to pcie 1 (the top one)

oh im reading up in here

[little osprey]

Lol def not the right ups

wow sale

[muted patio]

APC rebrand

[potent portal]

Most cyberpower stuff is rebrands

[potent portal]

There was a debug error light for DRAM on, and he was trying to use a 5000 series CPU which means motherboard needs to be flashed but there was issues with that too

[ripe wedge]

ah

so multiple potential issues

[little osprey]

Wait, so as long as you unplug your device during outages

your safe?

because wouldn't the pc be atleast damaged after that rolling blackout this week.

[desert gulch]

If pc not plugged in it's fine

Cause no way for a power surge to hit it

[little osprey]

Because ripped it out after the first one

It was unpredicted, then first time power shutoff.

[desert gulch]

Mhmm

[little osprey]

Ripped it out. waited for the all clear.

[desert gulch]

Like I always unplug during thunderstorms and stuff

Even tho I have a rly good surge protector

Not worth the risk

[little osprey]

Yeah i just unplug everything during those blackouts.

First time ive had a blackout in years.

[wanton cliff]

Lmao

I have a days long blackout every other week here

Electric company just doesn’t care

[brittle tinsel]

According to linustechtips forum or whatever, what ever is directly plugged into a psu during a surge is most likely done for, including parts plugged into the mobo

I have tested the ram and it’s dead but have no way of testing my hdd ssd or gpu the only 3 parts I was gonna keep for the new build

[little osprey]

ig it is a good thing i rip it out the pc from the outlet.

[brittle tinsel]

Is there any small reason to hope they work or no

[hollow grail]

[potent portal]

There's absolutely a chance the PSU kinda did its job and protected other components

[brittle tinsel]

But it killed the ram

So I’m worried it took others too

[potent portal]

Yeah, only one way to find out

[brittle tinsel]

Gpu is fine whatever but my ssd and hdd had important files and a 6 month unity project for class

All of which I had no backup of

Because I didn’t expect a surge, I had it in a surge protector but it still went

[wanton cliff]

Those can be recovered

[potent portal]

No one expects a surge, just gotta prepare for it best you can

Unless the controller is fried

[hollow grail]

sometimes

[brittle tinsel]

Isn’t that expensive to get done

[hollow grail]

source: did data recovery professionally

[brittle tinsel]

I mean every last penny of my budget now has to go towards a new psu, a new gpu, poss new drives

[wanton cliff]

The font on your website is ugly

How it goes up and down and up again

Makes my eyes hurt

[little osprey]

Lmao

[potent portal]

Yeah professional recovery gets expensive, the cheap option is to buy a duplicate of the drive and swap the controller and cross your fingers if the controller died

[little osprey]

its still vibing here.

[brittle tinsel]

I would mess it up, I read a lot about PCs and have a bit of book knowledge with building them and troubleshooting but no hands on experience which is better than book knowledge in my opinion

[brittle tinsel]

And I don’t even know the make of the hard drive because it’s a knock off drive I got in a prebuilt from 2017

[wanton cliff]

Might say in Task Manager

[potent portal]

Definitely hands on is best, but if it comes between that and spending $2000 or abandoning the data...
Sometimes you have to learn on your feet

[brittle tinsel]

True

Very true

$2000 or take a chance, chance here I come

[potent portal]

The computer was hit by a power surge, we're talking worst case scenario everything is fried kind of things

[wanton cliff]

Ooooh

That’s unlucky

[brittle tinsel]

Lmfao

[little osprey]

Thats an In chat

[brittle tinsel]

Tell me about it

It’s bs

[wanton cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-rog-rig-reboot-oof-linus-gif-18708358

[little osprey]

Time to unplug my pc everytime

even everyday

[brittle tinsel]

Can’t finish my classes that I wouldn’t even have to do without COVID

[little osprey]

when i don't use it

[brittle tinsel]

This was unplugged

[little osprey]

What?

[brittle tinsel]

I came home pressed power and boom

Psu sparks and the wire blew up

[little osprey]

SO the PSU killed it

or the surge killed the psu

[wanton cliff]

Which PSU again?

[little osprey]

and psu killed the parts.

[wanton cliff]

This one

[brittle tinsel]

The psu killed it

[little osprey]

so surge killed psu

and psu went kaboom

[brittle tinsel]

Apevia Venus 550

[little osprey]

[wanton cliff]

[potent portal]

Surge x PSU x RAM (and more?)

[little osprey]

[wanton cliff]

Who even is the kekw guy

[little osprey]

El risitas

he's from spain

[brittle tinsel]

No, I got home, sat down pressed the front panel power and sparks start flying and everything shuts off, the bottom of the psu temporarily caught fire

[little osprey]

His original meme is about him

working at a restraunt

[brittle tinsel]

It was terrible

[little osprey]

and boss told him to wash pans

he put them on the beach

[wanton cliff]

Heh

[little osprey]

next day he came back, and the wave took it.

[wanton cliff]

Lmao

Idiot

[little osprey]

The restraunt couldn't cook so they shut down

Also btw

your psu aint on the ltt tier list

[brittle tinsel]

I’m assuming it was a surge because I don’t know what to call a psu blowing up and catching fire

[little osprey]

not even on "little info"

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah, it’s a prebuilt rig i bought 4 years ago

[little osprey]

NANI?

[potent portal]

Meme quality unit right here
https://www.newegg.com/apevia-atx-vs450w/p/N82E16817148053

[little osprey]

lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1uvwdl/build_help_any_experience_with_apevia_psus/ Not much info

"7 years ago"

At this point im debating if it was the surge

or if the PSU just had a stroke

[brittle tinsel]

If it had a stroke is there still hope?

Or less hope?

[potent portal]

Doesn't make much difference in the end

[little osprey]

The PSU aint on ltt tier list, even in "Minor issues"

But prob surge went yeet

and PSU was like "I give up"

[brittle tinsel]

Damn, now with ssd being digital drives, I’ve heard of they go bad you can still read from them, is this true?

Cause I installed a 500gb wd blue about 2 years back

[little osprey]

SSD's use cache

[potent portal]

If a controller on a SSD goes out it's as good as gone

[little osprey]

^

[brittle tinsel]

Damn it

[little osprey]

But are they digital?

Nani

[brittle tinsel]

That’s what I’ve hear

Heard

[little osprey]

Basically now im planning to unplug my stuff everyday lol

[wanton cliff]

I should get a UPS

[potent portal]

You mean you don't have it all on a smart plug that does a physical disconnect?

[little osprey]

Just a "Belkin Surge protector"

[potent portal]

I'm leaning towards the PSU just tripping one last time and giving up face down in the road

[little osprey]

and whenever we have outages/brownouts

I just rip it out of the wall

because I have PC, Router, Modem, Phone charger, and monitors all on one outlet.

Modem and router on on an outlet next to it.

[wanton cliff]

I wonder what Mike is doing right now

Is Arcane Focus still live?

[rugged vector]

gonna be play games

sorry i was away for a long while didnt have time for discord today

[unique rapids]

Why motherboard Vcore always start at 1.45v by default? Is there a way to change the base Vcore so that it will make it easier to use a positive offset?
Using negative offset just makes the idle voltage higher than the load voltage.

[restive lynx]

hey guize n grilz, i'm tryin to find a video card, ram, and power supply (600w) to match with an i5 4690k and an azrock z97 extreme 3

I'm not tryin to break the bank, but my gf needs a rig and we are building one out of spare parts

she plays some smite and sims mostly

[obtuse wedge]

If you need ram, buy it

There's only about 4 choices

[clever eagle]

what is a good mini itx build for $1600
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/j6qmj2

[sacred totem]

A Macbook or Mini desktop tbh

[frank stirrup]

Ew

[sacred totem]

?

[frank stirrup]

Mac bad hardware wise at that price point

[sacred totem]

@frank stirrup what is the price point of linux/windows m1 machines

i mean i felt like i got the most affordable mac yet AND the fastest computer i've ever owned

[hollow grail]

fastest pc youve ever owned doesnt make it the fastest computer period

[sacred totem]

if you're interested in architecture and what a difference it makes, i think it's part of the conversation. immaturity sadly present

[still roost]

MrRobot#0117 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hollow grail]

[sacred totem]

i....

[hollow grail]

m1 macs are good value for what they are

however they dont compete with mini itx desktops

only idiots will tell you otherwise

[sacred totem]

<-- idiot

i don't get why my post was delete by point taken

[hollow grail]

arm laptops are really cool but laptop arm cant compete too well with desktop cpus

let alone apple igpu vs a rtx card

[sacred totem]

TBF i've never seen a desktop used in a workplace in 6 years

[hollow grail]

then youve been to the wrong workspaces

[sacred totem]

well i make the apps

[hollow grail]

desktop vs laptop for stuff like email or light dev work isnt a big deal

[sacred totem]

you would think so

[hollow grail]

generally target is more 3d accelerated programs

[sacred totem]

i was very surprised playing games on apples GPUs on macbook and even iPad. can you tell me if you have experience with that as either a user or developer?

like, no fan turn-on whatsoever, hight-dpi, top frame-rate, impressive visuals. it wasn't like this on my 2018

[hollow grail]

its getting good, still nowhere near as good as good dedicated gpus

but its getting there

[sacred totem]

but I have dual displays and miniscule power supply

[still roost]

MrRobot#0117 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[sacred totem]

can i not say m- 1

m1

[still roost]

MrRobot#0117 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

MrRobot#0117 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[frank stirrup]

I mean m1 is an soc sold only in a few apple products so you cant really buy it lmao

[frank stirrup]

Calls lili immature... gets called out by mee6 for swearing multiple times showing his own immaturity. Gg

[frank stirrup]

What apps?

[sharp tundra]

Man, talking about being away

[frank stirrup]

The bad fan speed management by apple to appeal to idiots like you who care about silence rather than the performance you are paying for is the problem ngl.

Personally wouldn’t wanna own a computer whose fans kick in when cpu temps hit 85 degrees

A simple google search will show you how many macbook air cpus died because apple wanted silence over cpu life and performance

[sharp tundra]

@rugged vector Hey, this is probably the best I could do for $800, its a tiny bit over but not by much, if it HAS to be under $800, get in touch with a Techie and they might be able to bring it down a little.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CMrvF8

[rancid lodge]

I’m back boys

Day two of trying to flash the bios

So uh last night Fal tried to help me flash my bios, I have a 5900x, and a x570 tuf gaming pro board. Basically when trying to boot I get the Qled DRAM light, so last night Fal helped me out with resetting CMOS, and that didn’t work, so we tried flash multiple times and that didn’t flash.

[rancid lodge]

So if anyone has any suggestions that’d be great, otherwise I’m going to follow this first

Also I’m still not sure whether or not I should have the CPU installed during this

[scenic quiver]

I also had a mobo to flash last night, and did have some trouble at first with my USB drive failing. What ended up working for me was a fresh format on the usb drive (not a quick format) and repeated my process for flashing my mobo. I was successful at that point. i dont know if this helps ya or not. @rancid lodge

[rancid lodge]

Trying something rn but yeah if it doesn’t work I’ll definitely take you up on that

Not sure how to reformat but if this doesn’t work I’ll look it up or smth

[scenic quiver]

in windows explorer, right click the drive and click "format" then untick the quick format, then wait a while.

emphasis on 'while' too. took my format nearly 30 mins on a 16gb empty stick.

[warm swift]

@muted patio are you free?

[rancid lodge]

Alright this time the bios update was completed (it blinked and eventually turned off) but it didn’t fix the issue

@scenic quiver did you have that happen at all?

[scenic quiver]

no i did not have that issue. mine blinked for a bit, then saw board rgbs come on, then mm flash indicator light went off telling me i had a successful flash. I then went to assemble my computer. worth noting, in flashed my bios without the cpu in it.

[rancid lodge]

Well I have the CPU mounted in it currently

Could that be the issue?

[elder comet]

Guys how do I do with all the wires in the pc connecting too cooling and motherboard

[scenic quiver]

it's possible, but i can't say for certain. in my case I came from intel to amd with no previous gen cpu to update my bios. luckily i had m-flash and was able to flash it w/out the cpu in it. mind you the only thing hooked to my mobo at the time of flashing was ATX power and CPU power.

[still roost]

Aldanooob#5945 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[rancid lodge]

Alr

[warm swift]

question like, what is the difference between a 3600 CL16 and CL18, like can you tell me the actual difference? if i get a CL18 will i feel a difference?

[muted patio]

Probably not in day to day use, most likely if rendering or editing videos, etc.

[warm swift]

i dont do any of that tho

what if i only just game

will there be a difference?

[rancid lodge]

Hey mind if I borrow you? Need some expertise in fixing this.

[muted patio]

Depending on the game, 1-5 FPS

[warm swift]

is that alot?

[jagged ember]

i think you know

[rancid lodge]

I just flashed my bios again with a FAT32 16 GB and it seemed like it worked

[jagged ember]

60 vs 65 fps?

[rancid lodge]

The bios LED blinked till it turned off

[jagged ember]

is that a huge difference for you?

[warm swift]

i mean yeah, im just asking like, is that alot of fps for you guys? like will it matter?

[jagged ember]

oh pff

not for me

[rancid lodge]

But it still hasn’t fixed my DRAM light

[warm swift]

idk thats why im asking

[rancid lodge]

and the system will still not boot

[jagged ember]

i don't find 5 fps has basically any difference

[rancid lodge]

So yeah basically at this point I’m screwed

[jagged ember]

something more like 60fps to 75fps is much more noticeable

sniper did you put your bios file onto that drive?

[warm swift]

lets say games like, Call of duty warzone for example or Fortnite, CSGO, and other games like Cyberpunk, Horizon, RDR2 etc. do you think it will matter?

[jagged ember]

nope, i don't think it would

[warm swift]

so id be more than okay with any right?

[jagged ember]

game frame rates naturally fluctuate as well and i don't really notice it

yeah, whatever's cheaper

[muted patio]

1-5 FPS is the penalty for C18

I mean, C16 is the same price so why not?

[jagged ember]

oh well then CL16

[muted patio]

unless 64 GBor something

[jagged ember]

if they're the same price

[rancid lodge]

So uh. Anyone have any other ideas

Cause at this point I’m thinking of just sending it to a super expensive repair guy

[muted patio]

ONe stick, slot B2, after a clear CMOS

[rancid lodge]

Already tried

[warm swift]

im buying a 32GB one, thing is they dont have a CL16, so thats why im asking if i should buy the CL18 and just be done with it, or just look for other stores that has CL16?

[muted patio]

after the successful flash?

[rancid lodge]

Nope

[jagged ember]

you can try looking for a cl16

[muted patio]

Where are you located that doesn't have C16?

[rancid lodge]

I’ll try that then

If it’s going to differ after the CMOS

[warm swift]

im in egypt, there isnt much in egypt

[warm swift]

yeah i guess

[muted patio]

Ahhhhh

Yeah, that makes sense

Take what you can get then

[jagged ember]

if you find one that's great

[warm swift]

alright then

[jagged ember]

otherwise, it's not much of a penalty

if at all, really

[warm swift]

alright, do you guys recommend any other than G.Skill TridentZ Neo, and Corsair Vengeance and Corsair Dominator RGB?

[muted patio]

Crucial Ballistix if available

[warm swift]

the normal one or Max?

[muted patio]

Just regular ballistix

[rancid lodge]

@muted patio alright I shorted the CMOS with the clear CMOS jumper

[muted patio]

Like this https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Ballistix-Desktop-Gaming-BL2K8G36C16U4B/dp/B083V93HJG

[warm swift]

alright then ill ask for it

[warm swift]

btw can i ask you a question about the PSU?

[muted patio]

One stick ram, A2, try and boot

Just ask about the PSU

[rancid lodge]

Alright A2 is the farthest from CPU right?

[muted patio]

SIngle ram should be A2, not B2, I checked the manual

[rancid lodge]

Or is that second from

[muted patio]

Furthest

[rancid lodge]

Alright

[warm swift]

btw is this PSU good? ASUS ROG STRIX 1000W GOLD PSU

[muted patio]

Yes

[rancid lodge]

Still no luck @muted patio

DRAM is still on

[muted patio]

Don't use the clear CMOS jumper then

unpluig from wall and remove battery

[rancid lodge]

Battery?

Alright

[muted patio]

Unpolug from wall too

[warm swift]

even better than Corsair HX1000 or Bitfenix Whisper M 850W?

[rancid lodge]

Yep

[muted patio]

Those are multi rail, asus is single rail

[warm swift]

is that something good or bad?

[muted patio]

Multi rail offers protection on individual rails while single rail is just one overall protection. Technically multi rail is better

[warm swift]

but if i get the asus one, would there be a problem?

like could it ruin the pc?

[muted patio]

No

Not at all

[warm swift]

alright

[warm swift]

is it quiet btw?

[muted patio]

IDK about how quiet it is

[warm swift]

alright btw i gotta ask you something, ik both of them are really great but like, tell me which is the best one, and why, Asus Strix OC 3080 or MSI SUPRIM X 3080

[wanton cliff]

Minor question

My BIOS keeps running into an error where it says something about an error with the CPU fan (I have 3 connected to one port)

Vintage told me a couple days ago that disabling fan monitoring would fix this but idk where in my BIOS that is?

Asus TUF X570 BIOS that is

I swear I’m the only one who is ever in this channel

Any time I ask a question smh

[rancid lodge]

Alright I’m trying to get the battery out now, had to move the GPU to the bottom slot to even have a chance

[wanton cliff]

Why not just take the GPU out for a little while

You are going to have to put it back in later anyways

I assume you are doing a CMOS clear

[muted patio]

Your timing is terrible, it was time to feed animals

[wanton cliff]

Heh

[rancid lodge]

I just moved it to the other slot where I could access the battery lol

won’t matter which slot the GPU is in right?

[wanton cliff]

But you are doing a CMOS clear, right?

[rancid lodge]

Yes

Took out the battery now waiting

[muted patio]

Doesn't matter for DRAM LED

[wanton cliff]

So why spend the extra time and energy putting the GPU back in when you can just keep it out and put it back in the same slot later

[rancid lodge]

Well I originally had it in the bottom slot but I moved it to the top

So if it didn’t matter I was just gonna put it back on the bottom anyways

[warm swift]

@muted patio please

[warm swift]

can you actually tell me which is best and why?

[rancid lodge]

@muted patio alright it’s been about 10 minutes and the battery is back in

[fossil cedar]

I haven't had an asus motherboard before but i think wherever you can adjust your fan curve, that is where it is on my gigabyte mobo, idk if this is helpful or not but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rancid lodge]

Should I try booting it with one stick in the A2 now

@muted patio booted it up and still have the DRAM light

[little osprey]

why 3 cpu fan 🤔

[hollow grail]

stop asking questions

[wanton cliff]

AIO

360mm

[hollow grail]

weak

[rancid lodge]

Alright I think I’m either going to see if my friend can lend me their 3600 or just wait for anyone who might have a suggestion

At this point I think it’ll probably be 3600

[little osprey]

did you tried cpu opt ?

[rancid lodge]

Tried about 10 different things now from multiple people and no luck so

Gonna check the CPU for damage

[fickle sail]

Thats not for daisychaining. Thats just a crappy stock fan your case comes with that has 2 options for power.

[little osprey]

Would I be able to get an extra ram stick and put it in there?

If so, what kind?

[distant spoke]

can someone halp
My CPU is only reporting 1 core when it has 8

rather using only 1 core and my pc is suddenly super slow

halp

[hollow grail]

stay in the channel you started asking for help in

dont spam every channel please

[little osprey]

If you had time to scold him, you probably also have time to answer his question

[hollow grail]

one requires mental energy, the other requires me to ask him to stop spamming everywhere

[rancid lodge]

Hey uh my Qled is now going from DRAM to VGA to CPU and now the boot light is on

Anyone able to help?

Why would the VGA light be on

[muted patio]

Riser card?

[rancid lodge]

Now it’s stuck on VGA and boot

@muted patio do you know what could be wrong with my GPU if it’s stuck on VGA

At first it was cycling all the lights but boot

[muted patio]

Put it in the upper slot

?

[rancid lodge]

Trying that.

[muted patio]

if it's in the bottom slot, try the upper one

[rancid lodge]

@muted patio moved it up a slot and it’s on VGA and boot again

Did a similar thing before, went from DRAM light to CPU then stopped at VGA/Boot

Blue led on XFX Radeon 580 is on

[foggy briar]

It's not worth it watercooling a gpu with a good air-cooler on it is it ?

[muted patio]

Try a different port in the GPU. Like, DP instead of HDMI or DVI

[celest axle]

Alright, sup. Looking to build a PC from 800$

Nothing remarkable, but need some input

[rancid lodge]

@muted patio would the VGA come on if it detects no monitor?

I have no monitors plugged in rn

Tried plugging into VGA

[muted patio]

Well, plug one in

[rancid lodge]

alright I’ll try plugging into HDMI on the GPU

[muted patio]

Those two lights are common on first boot when BIOS wants you to F1 to configure things

[rancid lodge]

Tried HDMI to monitor and no signal @muted patio

Monitor turned itself on out of sleep though

Also plugged HDMI into the back IO of motherboard and nothing

GPU is noticeably hot

For idle

[muted patio]

Motherboard out won't do anything

CPU has no iGPU

Are you even sure this GPU works?

[rancid lodge]

Dunno it worked before

Uh oh

[pine stone]

Wanna see something crazy ?

[rancid lodge]

I just removed the GPU and a thumb screw fell out @muted patio

[quasi hemlock]

Could someone tell me what these are