#building-and-recc-chat

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brittle tinsel
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I don’t see it

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muted patio
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That's not Cinebench lol

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That's Cinema4D

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Fal'Cie posted the wrong link

brittle tinsel
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Frick

muted patio
potent portal
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Sorry 😅

wanton cliff
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or just download from MS Store...

brittle tinsel
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Now I got to figure out how to stop my data being shared with third party countries

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I knew it was sketch

muted patio
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What was sketch

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Maxon isn't sketch

brittle tinsel
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Cinema4d

wanton cliff
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Maxon is coole

muted patio
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That's by Maxon, same people that make Cinebench lol

desert gulch
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Yea

muted patio
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Just a different type of program

brittle tinsel
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I had to agree to sharing my data with 3rd party countries just to get a free license to use it

muted patio
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It's 3D art software lol

desert gulch
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Arent you the person who was using OperaGX?

brittle tinsel
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Blender don’t need all that info

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And it’s more available

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Classes are

wanton cliff
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Blender is a different program

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and not a benchmark (usually)

brittle tinsel
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Ik

scenic quiver
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according to a 5mo old reddit post, the MB i have picked out supposedly has flashback? if thats the case, it totally changes me going with the 3700x to just getting the $30 cheaper 5600x

wanton cliff
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yep

muted patio
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which board

wanton cliff
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what mobo

scenic quiver
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MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS axt

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atx*

wanton cliff
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yep

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that has flashback alright

brittle tinsel
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Im pretty sure most msi boards have flashback

desert gulch
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3700x will still be better into multi core workloads tho

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If that's your thing

wanton cliff
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most MSI products do

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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Yea

potent portal
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Yeah the MPG B550 seems to have it

wanton cliff
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5600x stomps

desert gulch
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Not in like editing and stuff

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In gaming yes

wanton cliff
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its a gaming computer

desert gulch
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Ok

wanton cliff
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plus the 5600x cores stomp the 3700x cores

scenic quiver
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well thats reassuring. i do game a lot, and want to stream from the same PC, but may end up with 2pc setup after long..

desert gulch
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Mhm core to core it does

potent portal
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5600X = Much better single core
3700X = Slightly better multicore

brittle tinsel
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@muted patio multi core or single? I’m on a i5 4570

desert gulch
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Yeah

muted patio
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Be careful with what you say, a good portion of MSI X570 boards don't have flashback

brittle tinsel
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4570s

muted patio
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Multi

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Also, if it's that old, probs needs repasted to be honest

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if it hasn't ever been done

brittle tinsel
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We bought 3 of em in November received in late December

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Prebuilt from lyre technology

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Lyre

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Lyte

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Damn phone

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But how do I get the OSD in cinebench

muted patio
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There is no OSD, Cinebench is a CPU stressing program to see if it will shut down under load

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just let it run for a bit to see if it shuts down

brittle tinsel
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Oh I thought you said watch the power consumption while doing it

desert gulch
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Are you testing efficiency or stability?

muted patio
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No

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By PSU, I meant to check the PSU physically

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SO we knew what model it was

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You got a new prebuilt PC that has a 4570 in it?

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Just in November???

brittle tinsel
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CPU is already up to 70c and cinebecnh was running 5m out of 10

muted patio
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That's an 8 year old CPU, can't believe people are selling systems with that in it

brittle tinsel
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Yeah Black Friday sale, had no build fee, got the whole build for $400 on payments and it runs everything they throw at it

wanton cliff
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I hope it was cheap

brittle tinsel
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My 4 year old prebuilt blew up so I can’t play with my brothers anymore right now

muted patio
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Lyte Hyper V2?

potent portal
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I saw someone trying to peddle a computer with an i7 960 in it with a 1050 ti

brittle tinsel
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I think

muted patio
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Gamdias PSU

brittle tinsel
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4570s and 1060 3gb

muted patio
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oooooffffff

brittle tinsel
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That’s what they say but they are all vegan

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Vegan

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Evga

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I hate apple

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72c now

wanton cliff
brittle tinsel
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tfw?

potent portal
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"the face when"

brittle tinsel
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Ah

wanton cliff
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"the feel when" actually

potent portal
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or something like that

brittle tinsel
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Ah

potent portal
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sure lets go with that

brittle tinsel
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What’s considered hot for a cpu?

potent portal
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I'm not up on my "hip terms"

wanton cliff
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96 results

brittle tinsel
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@muted patio should I run it on single core? The game that keeps causing a reboot is tropico 5 it’s a bit older of a game

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So maybe it only uses 1 core

scenic quiver
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so that MB in particular uses M-Flash, and bios can be updated via bootable usb thumbdrive. but what it doesn't say is, can I assume I can put the 5600x in, and installed then update bios, or update bios becore cpu installment? Never done this before, kinda wana make sure I get it right.

muted patio
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No, stress the CPU

muted patio
scenic quiver
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thats whats i was thinking.

muted patio
wanton cliff
muted patio
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if it's not getting above 80C though

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It's probs fine

potent portal
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If CPU stress is ok then run that with furmark to test power supply

muted patio
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I'd suspect PSU, that's a Tier D unit from what I can tell

wanton cliff
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^

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reason I asked

potent portal
muted patio
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The other issue is that the CPU and motherboard are ALL used and second hand

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They've been out of production for years

brittle tinsel
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I have an osd on now I’m watching him play and will update if issue happens again

wanton cliff
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gimme a sec

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this'll be hard

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you will need to buy used parts

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yes

potent portal
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Yeah... GPU prices are wacked out

scenic quiver
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im out close to 900 with cpu, ramp, mobo, psu, and a 1tb m.2

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usd

muted patio
wanton cliff
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forgot about 10100

onyx lava
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2080ti i9 9900k water cooled for 2500 or 3080 i9 10900k for like 3200

wanton cliff
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3080

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10900k

onyx lava
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How many more frames u think I'd get on a game like minecraft with ray tracing

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With 3080 i9 10900

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Vs 2080ti i9 9900

muted patio
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Better ram

wanton cliff
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ooooh

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1500 is a lot easier

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yeah go ahead

muted patio
wanton cliff
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vintage, dont post any PCPP link

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I want to wait for this kid to post first

muted patio
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Scuse me?

wanton cliff
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he said he was gonna make a list and then post it

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I want to see what he does

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you posting a list will taint his original thoughts

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I love seeing lists from inexperienced people

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its a weird thing

muted patio
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So you can tear them apart?

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Just help

wanton cliff
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not tear them apat

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just explain why what they did was wrong

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better than just saying "here, this is all good, trust me"

potent portal
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You don't learn from having other people do it for you

scenic quiver
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^ this i like this

muted patio
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Never said I was going to post one

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I'm actually rebuilding a good portion of mine right now

wanton cliff
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cool

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I dont save any of mine unless I plan to build them

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ok, see?

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first things first

scenic quiver
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dang right to the dollar amount!

wanton cliff
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Ryzen 5 3600 and B450 boards are both outdated

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for this list, you are going to want a 5600x (newest AMD offering, slaps the 3600)

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and a TUF B550 or something else with BIOS Flashback

scenic quiver
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yep, same battle I was faced with.

wanton cliff
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second thing

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that SSD is sata

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slow

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in comparison to a good NVME

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take the Mushkin Helix L for example, which is cheaper, faster, and better

scenic quiver
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if applicable, i'd go with m.2 solid state.

wanton cliff
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third, that GPU is not worth $700

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MSRP for it is $180 iirc

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probably less

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3060Ti

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or 3070

muted patio
scenic quiver
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GPUs are a bit of a problem for some right now.

wanton cliff
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I dont like that board

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but that list is amazing otherwise

wanton cliff
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did you forget a price?

muted patio
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GPU

desert gulch
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shows up same for me too

wanton cliff
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yeah you did, the GPU

muted patio
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Not listed

desert gulch
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oh yeah

muted patio
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3060TI FE

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so $1400

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Like I said

desert gulch
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so 1418.91

muted patio
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😉

desert gulch
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3600 bad value imo

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id go 10400f

muted patio
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Don't get 3600

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Or Hyper 212

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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or that ram

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sara thats a 3600

jagged ember
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That's just not good value

muted patio
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Nope

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my system has 32GB ram BTW

scenic quiver
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it's there, i have one in my list.

desert gulch
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vintage isnt lpx iffy die?

jagged ember
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Vintage's build is much better

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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also that ssd is overpriced

wanton cliff
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vintage's build

muted patio
desert gulch
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in terms of perf

muted patio
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So forget die unless they're overclocking

desert gulch
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ig

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id go sn750 too

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better value imo

jagged ember
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Sn750 cheapo rn

desert gulch
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yup

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or p31 if you want real speed

muted patio
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SN7750 is overpriced

jagged ember
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Yeah

desert gulch
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but p31 is more money

wanton cliff
muted patio
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Mushkin Pilot-E much better for the money

desert gulch
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vintage its 62.99 for a sn750

muted patio
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$109 for a speedy 1 TB drive, just as fast as SN750 and Samsung

jagged ember
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Hm that's nice

desert gulch
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500 gig

jagged ember
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Pog

muted patio
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For $1500

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you better have 1 TB NVME

desert gulch
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vintage hows helix L compare to pilot-e?

scenic quiver
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may the GPU finance gods be with you

desert gulch
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in a 1tb capacity?

wanton cliff
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or you could try and get a 3060Ti through the newegg shuffle

muted patio
desert gulch
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cause its 10 bucks cheaper

muted patio
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Half write speed

desert gulch
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oof

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also their psu is mega overpriced

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190 bucks for an rm850

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way better value options out there

wanton cliff
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mhmm

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Seasonic

desert gulch
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yeah bryce likes seasonic 850 watt i think

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i think thats his main

muted patio
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Pricey

desert gulch
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mhmm

muted patio
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Enermax DF 850W

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$129 I think>?

desert gulch
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plus that build doesnt need a 850 imo

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could go like amp 750 prolly

muted patio
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3060TI?

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650W

desert gulch
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yeah

muted patio
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3070? 650W

wanton cliff
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AMP 750 best

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love that PSU

desert gulch
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but if you wanted a bunch of breathing room

muted patio
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Segotep for $72 pog

desert gulch
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for upgrades and stuff

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lol

wanton cliff
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kek

desert gulch
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kek

wanton cliff
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oh lol

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you added another 7

muted patio
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650W fully modular Tier B

wanton cliff
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kek

desert gulch
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isnt amp better tier tho?

muted patio
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Tier A but also $109

desert gulch
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mhmm

wanton cliff
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both A tier

muted patio
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Another $30

jagged ember
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But for a bigger price yeah

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If ur budgeting

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Speaking of budgeting

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Would like fixes to this build

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1000 dollar budget

wanton cliff
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Cringe 120mm AIO

jagged ember
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Basically just gaming

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I know lmao in a 510 as well

wanton cliff
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3200mhz mem

jagged ember
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It was someone else's build and they asked if it was good

wanton cliff
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no GPU???

jagged ember
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They're apparently getting one with a broken dp port

wanton cliff
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which one

jagged ember
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1660 I believe

wanton cliff
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thats a third of the ports and half of the digital ones

muted patio
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Could go 3060TI FE

jagged ember
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Vintage, you are epic

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Also white cases if possible they says

muted patio
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I just have a crap ton of saved lists

jagged ember
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But cases are my weakness

muted patio
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White case?

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can do

jagged ember
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Ayy

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Thank you

muted patio
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RGb fans too

jagged ember
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Lol nice

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If nonrgb, what fans would you recommend?

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Just curious

muted patio
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Arctic P12 PWM

stoic island
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Nidec Gentle Typhoon

scenic quiver
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are all the 3090's 24gb?

potent portal
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Yes

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Meant for workstation loads, but for some reason nvidia decided to market it as a 8k gaming card

muted patio
stoic island
muted patio
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$20 each though!

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YOWZA

stoic island
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They're supposed to be basically nf-a12x25s

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sometimes considered better for being dbb instead of magnetic fluid or whatever it's called

granite delta
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Hey

wanton cliff
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Hi

granite delta
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I had a question but

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I might have just found the answer lol

alpine thunder
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Question about my AIO orientation

muted patio
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As long as the pump isn't the highest point in the system, it's fine

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Tubes up, tubes down, doesn't matter

alpine thunder
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Since I'm in the Deepcool Tristellar, there's not really a high point

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They are both on the same plane

wanton cliff
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Wdym by ‘highest point’?

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Like, the water is going mostly upways?

desert gulch
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you just wanna make sure the air in that loop will by in the lines or radiotor, not the pump

muted patio
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I see th epic

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It's fine

alpine thunder
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For example

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This isn't mine

muted patio
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It's fine

desert gulch
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yeah looks fine

alpine thunder
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But thats how it's setup

muted patio
alpine thunder
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So I should turn the fan 90 degrees

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Got it

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All I need to know

muted patio
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Well, the top most part of the radiator is still above the pump

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Technically

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so you're fine

alpine thunder
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Oh so I can just leave it?

sharp tundra
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so im not entirely sure why i wasnt able to see like 75% of the cases on pcpp, but i cleared my cache and it fixed it?

muted patio
alpine thunder
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What is considered the top most part of the radiator?

sharp tundra
alpine thunder
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Also vintage the RMA went well. I should be Abel to rebuild next week

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And lol show you what I mean

muted patio
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Circled it

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The top edge

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is the top most part

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ELevation wise

sharp tundra
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oh

muted patio
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Air always goes to the highest point in the system

sharp tundra
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what is that?

muted patio
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if the rad is higher than the pump, it will get stuck in the rad

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120mm AIO cooler

alpine thunder
sharp tundra
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no, the whole thing

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it looks kinda cool

muted patio
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Top edge of the rad there is the highest point

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Deepcool Tristar case

sharp tundra
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ah

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old case, but really nice

alpine thunder
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Ok so I don't need to turn my tubes left or right?

wanton cliff
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How are you, Prophet?

alpine thunder
wanton cliff
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You emailed me first

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How did you even get that

alpine thunder
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You emailed me first

wanton cliff
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No?

muted patio
alpine thunder
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Thanks dude

muted patio
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YW

alpine thunder
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And yup, I haven't emailed you since I needed help fixing my mobo

wanton cliff
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I rarely check my email

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Kek

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I give most people my secondary email

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And that’s the one I usually check

sharp tundra
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hey, itx mobos run dual channel single slot right?

alpine thunder
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I never thought I'd see the day "kek" is used in the wild

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That's crazy

sharp tundra
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like 1 slot for each channel

hollow nebula
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Can anyone help me find a 2133mhz ram Mta8atf1g64az-2g6h1 micron 8gb

wanton cliff
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I have said it exactly 100 times on this server

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Kek

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101

alpine thunder
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Topkek

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I'll contribute

wanton cliff
muted patio
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Probs older board

hollow nebula
wanton cliff
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Just underclock

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It’s DDR4 I assume?

hollow nebula
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Yes

wanton cliff
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So just get a newer, easier to find kit and underclock it

alpine thunder
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Ah also @wanton cliff @muted patio idk if you guys saw it ages ago, but I finally got a vision 3070 at msrp from best buy. I had sent pix in here.

hollow nebula
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So a different type of ram?

wanton cliff
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No

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Still DDR4

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Just higher speeds

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Easier to find

wanton cliff
hollow nebula
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But does it have to be the same ram stick model?

wanton cliff
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Wdym?

muted patio
alpine thunder
wanton cliff
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Vision OC gross

hollow nebula
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So I have a Mta8atf1g64az-2g6h1 micron 8gb ram and another has to be the same or not

wanton cliff
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I know, I have one

wanton cliff
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Basically the same kit at that point

hollow nebula
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Kit?

wanton cliff
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Aside from die, which won’t be a problem

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Kit as in RAM kit

hollow nebula
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I’m new to building

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Ah

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But what is my motherboard can’t handle it

wanton cliff
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The thing is, it can

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You just have to go into BIOS and clock it under what the KIT normally goes to

sharp tundra
wanton cliff
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Yes, they do

hollow nebula
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My bio is bad

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It’s not a gaming

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It only show information

wanton cliff
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Who said anything about gaming?

desert gulch
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thing is whatever new stick you get will run at same speed your current one is at

wanton cliff
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Can and will

hollow nebula
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All I’m saying it a garbage mobo

desert gulch
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so dont buy anything faster than 2666

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if you can

hollow nebula
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So a 2666mhz ram?

desert gulch
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altho some faster ram can be cheaper

wanton cliff
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But whatever you want, just make sure it’s cheap enough for you

desert gulch
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sometimes

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yeah

wanton cliff
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Any speed works

sharp tundra
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cough AMD better cough

hollow nebula
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I bought one and put it in my pc nothing happens

desert gulch
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yeah any speed of ram works but when you put it in it will run at 2666

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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11900k best for gaming

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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even will most likely beat 5950x in gaming

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just because intel is kinda the master of single core stuff

sharp tundra
wanton cliff
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Has 11900k released?

hollow nebula
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Really thats what I had to do?

desert gulch
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no

wanton cliff
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Also 5900x is best gaming, not 5950x

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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havent rly seen benchmarks on it yet

wanton cliff
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Match timings as well

sharp tundra
desert gulch
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but im guessing intel will win gaming this time

sharp tundra
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nah

desert gulch
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just because they focus so much on single core

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although this is a big step for amd

sharp tundra
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but a lot of games are multicore uh

hollow nebula
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How to go in bios?

wanton cliff
desert gulch
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yeah ofc most games are

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single core matters more in games imo

sharp tundra
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so why would single core be better then?

wanton cliff
hollow nebula
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Ok

muted patio
wanton cliff
desert gulch
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id say single core still matters more

wanton cliff
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Sometimes single core more

desert gulch
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yeah

sharp tundra
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ah, well

muted patio
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hence 10400F beating the AMD 3600

desert gulch
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mhmm

hollow nebula
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I’m in my bios

sharp tundra
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amd still better imo

hollow nebula
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Can I send a picture?

wanton cliff
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I’ll guide you through

muted patio
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They should be able to in build pics?

desert gulch
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intel better for budget builds rn imo

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gaming builds

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10400f better than 3600

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while being cheaper

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but for like an all out build for editing and whatever ofc amd will win that

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intel doesnt rly make a gaming chip that has a ton of cores

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while amd does

sharp tundra
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i can open more than 2 chrome windows on my 3600 lol

desert gulch
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bruh a 10400f can do that just fine

sharp tundra
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pretty demanding if i say so

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im about to see actually how many chrome windows i can open

wanton cliff
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Rip, their BIOS doesn’t support setting clock speeds

sharp tundra
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bruh ive opened about 50 so far

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so no one answered my question about itx boards being dual channel?

muted patio
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Of course they are

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modern ones anyway

sharp tundra
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okay, kewl

hollow nebula
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My pc is garbage

lyric thistle
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Cool

muted patio
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SOunds like an old prebuilt to me

lyric thistle
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My computer is electronics equipment

muted patio
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HP, lenovo or Dell

hollow nebula
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Hp

muted patio
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Yeah, they don't give many options in the BIOS nor for upgrades

hollow nebula
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I hate it

desert gulch
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does it even have a discrete gpu?

hollow nebula
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It has a i5-7400

desert gulch
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oof

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so igpu

lyric thistle
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Sounds okay

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New psu + gpu

hollow nebula
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In the future ima build a pc and use the ssd I bought

muted patio
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It doesn't take much

desert gulch
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vintage is there actually a psychical difference between a f and non f intel cpu? or is it software they use to disable igpu in f since they kinda do the same thing with k vs non k

muted patio
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I've got a couple cheap builds saved

hollow nebula
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I want a good pc

muted patio
hollow nebula
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Like a i7 16 gb 3000mhz

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Like that

desert gulch
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what i7?

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what gen?

muted patio
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Don't need an i7

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TBH

desert gulch
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yeah a 10400f is more than enough

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for most ppl

sharp tundra
muted patio
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$600 + a GPU be a fast boi

hollow nebula
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A good one that run games very nicely

desert gulch
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get cheaper cooler

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nomad

hollow nebula
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Ok

desert gulch
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get faster ram

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get a b560

lyric thistle
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Games can run nicely on a lot of stuff

desert gulch
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also 3060ti msrp for an fe is 400 not 300

sharp tundra
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ah right

desert gulch
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cheaper psus out there

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prolly could go with a segotep

muted patio
desert gulch
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^

muted patio
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RIght at $1000 for a 3060TI Founders Edition

desert gulch
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vintage you think stock cooler is enough there?

muted patio
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OH yeah

sharp tundra
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i heard intel stock coolers were💩

muted patio
#

Stock cooler just fine especially in an airflow case

desert gulch
muted patio
#

I mean, it's not gonna hurt to upgrade it for sure

sharp tundra
#

right?

muted patio
#

But budget wise

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it will work

desert gulch
#

yummy

sharp tundra
#

lol

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i want that in my $3000 PC

desert gulch
#

yes

sharp tundra
#

screw custom loop

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so why is it that intel prefers slower and odd numbered ram speeds vs AMD that uses faster even numbers

muted patio
#

Odd numbered?

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They're all 3200, 3600, etc

sharp tundra
#

yeah 2133, 2666

muted patio
#

Oh, older intel stuff, yeah, becuase those are JEDEC DDR4 ram speeds

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Like, B460

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The Z boards have been able to do 3000+ for a while now

sharp tundra
#

so intel is just now getting up to speed? lol

muted patio
#

No

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Intel isn't affected by RAM speeds like AMD is

#

See, AMD CPU's have chiplets, separate clusters of CPu's in them

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Those chiplets communicate at the same frequency as the ram

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IE, 3200/3600, etc

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It's why AMD does better with faster ram

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And intel doesn't care because all their CPU's are contiguous silicon

desert gulch
#

Mhmm

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Intel rn likes up to like 3200 tho right?

muted patio
#

3200 is the sweet spot

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I've seen game benchmarks with 3200 and 3733

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The difference is NIL, within margin of error

desert gulch
#

3200 c16 I think is sweet spot

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3200 c14 spendy rn

sharp tundra
#

im sitting here looking for the price of a mobo that i dont think is released yet, i feel slow

desert gulch
#

what mobo

sharp tundra
#

aorus z590 xtreme

desert gulch
#

hmm

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yeah looks like its not out yet

sharp tundra
#

its probably gonna be about the same price as the x570 xtreme

desert gulch
#

idk

sharp tundra
#

which is $700

sharp tundra
#

so, i have a theoretical question, lets say i have 4 3090s in a pc, would i need to sli them to get max performance?

desert gulch
#

well i dont think a cpu would be able to keep up with those in gaming

muted patio
#

Max performance in games?

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games will only use two at most

#

FOr rendering or mining, SLI isn't necessary

desert gulch
#

even a 5900x or 5950x has limit

#

vintage what is the best paid antivirus out there?

little osprey
#

Hey can someone help determine a builds value

desert gulch
#

sure

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post the link

sharp tundra
#

okay, sli is really only for gaming?

desert gulch
#

mhmm

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as you cant have 2 gpu run 1 game without a bridge iirc

little osprey
# desert gulch post the link

CPU: Intel i7-10700
CPU cooler: Deepcool Gammaxx 400 V2 with upgraded Addressable RGB fans
GPU: ASUS ROG STRIX GeForce RTX 3070 OC 8GB GDDR6
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z490 UD AC
RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Kingston HyperX DDR4 3000 C15 2x8GB
M.2 NVMe SSD: 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe PCIe M.2
PSU: 700W Thermaltake Smart 700W
Case: NZXT H510 Tempered Glass with 2x Addressable RGB fans and 2x Addressable RGB lightning stripes with controller and remote

sharp tundra
#

alright, just wondering cause if i ever get to build this $20000 PC, i want to know how to do it right

desert gulch
#

id say around 1350-1400

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maybe 1450

little osprey
#

Usd?

desert gulch
#

ye

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you gonna build that?

muted patio
#

Thermaltake PSU

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Kinda sketch

little osprey
#

maybe

desert gulch
#

h510

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mhmm

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ram isnt the best either

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and no reason for a 490 if you aint gonna oc the cpu

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since its a non k

muted patio
#

B560

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If non-K

desert gulch
#

mhmm

sharp tundra
#

you could get some 3200cl16 ram aswell

desert gulch
#

mhmm

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and theres def better value ssds out there

little osprey
#

can I post another?

desert gulch
#

sure

sharp tundra
#

but samsung so gudYawy

desert gulch
#

not for 75 bucks for 500 gig

little osprey
#

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
CPU cooler: AMD Wraith Spire RGB
GPU: Zotac Twin Edge RTX 3060 12GB
MOBO: MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi
RAM: 16GB (2x 8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600 C18
M.2 NVMe SSD: 500GB WD Blue SN550 NVMe PCIe M.2
PSU: 700W Gigabyte B700H modular
Case: Antec Dark Phantom DP301M Tempered Glass with 6x Addressable RGB fans with controller and remote

desert gulch
#

ummm

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id say 1300

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you lookin at prebuilts rn?

sharp tundra
#

hey, ur paying a premium for a premium product

desert gulch
#

not rly

little osprey
#

No

desert gulch
#

i think p31 is around that price and way better

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are you gonna build that?

little osprey
#

yea

desert gulch
#

some things id change

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well whats your budget?

little osprey
#

2000-2500

#

cad

desert gulch
#

so like a 2k usd budget ish

#

i bet you could do a 3080 and 5800x build for that

sharp tundra
#

hmmm, what if someone put 4 rads in a obsidian 1000d

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imma look

little osprey
#

but it’s so hard to find 3080’s

desert gulch
#

theyre a lot better than a 3060

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over 2x

sharp tundra
#

"ALOT"

little osprey
#

where’s best place to find 3080s

desert gulch
#

newegg shuffle maybe

sharp tundra
#

whereever theyre available lol

desert gulch
#

tons of drops everywhere

sharp tundra
#

i would try and get an FE 3080 though, cause if you ever want to water cool, youll have no trouble finding a waterblock for it

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but thats me

desert gulch
#

yeah fe seems to be best value rn

sharp tundra
#

poewrhouse

desert gulch
#

no

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theres a new tr

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that just came out

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like 5500 usd i thikn

sharp tundra
#

but it not on pcpp

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so thats next best thing

desert gulch
#

you can add a custom part bruv

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just gotta log into your pcpp acc

sharp tundra
#

oh

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i didnt know you could even make an account, lol

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i just always get on there for fun

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make crazy builds that nearly everyone hates

little osprey
fierce hull
#

is a intel i5 10400f good combination with msi rtx 3060 ventus ?3

desert gulch
#

3060 bad value imo

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id go 3060ti

desert gulch
#

to like a se 224xt

little osprey
#

ye ive already changed it

little osprey
fierce hull
#

i got 5 in stock in a pc shop nearby

little osprey
#

bruh wat

fierce hull
#

i swear

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its for 785$

desert gulch
#

bad deal

#

dont buy

fierce hull
#

why bra

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im not buying it online

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im goin to store they got it on stock i even called them

#

its for real 785$

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they had about 10 of them 5 of them already bought by some others why not to but its a good deal

#

i even bought a gtx 1070 ti from them 3 years ago for the same price of 750 -800 $

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easy money bra

#

unfortunately its not in america

#

its in netherlands

robust lake
#

You are buying a 300 $ gpu for more then double the price and you say its a good deal?

hollow grail
#

cant fix stupid

desert gulch
#

Nope

tight sorrel
#

so whats the solution? I was left without a GPU a month ago. cant tell you how desperate I am

little osprey
little osprey
little osprey
#

ig i cant expect much from someone named "Dorito Overlord"

fierce hull
#

price of an rtx 3060 in online is around 800-900

little osprey
#

do you understand the difference between 237 and 272

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when it's that big of a scalp

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it isnt "easy money" it's "buy it if ur a literal bot or have too much money and are going to waste it on scalps"

#

ugh someone tell me he's trolling

potent portal
#

They use euros in the Netherlands right?

little osprey
#

also he used $ in his message so idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

potent portal
#

I'm just saying, if it is in euros then it's an even worse deal than we thought lol

#

850 euros is around $1k

hollow grail
fierce hull
#

is b365 support intel i5 10400 ?

blazing aurora
fierce hull
#

Never mind

#

I will buy a b 460

#

Cause z 490 is so expensive in my country

summer pasture
#

If there is anyone here willing to help my pc has had a bad wifi connection (downloading games under 1mb/s). Im on onboard wifi rn and im kind if far from the router because its in my parents room. I saw that there is a wifi driver on the website for my mobo but not sure if i should download or how to get it to work

#

Aldo device manager says i have a wlan driver already

#

Also my phone and laptop both get good connection in my room just not my pc

blazing aurora
#

drivers are important for your pc components, download that and see if it works then

summer pasture
#

Cuz i think i already have a wifi driver

blazing aurora
#

maybe you installed it when you first built the pc?

summer pasture
#

Yeah idk i dont remember

stoic island
summer pasture
#

If i did install it would it be bad because i already have one

worn wave
#

B560 Pro4

#

Best budget B560 board

stoic island
blazing aurora
# summer pasture Yeah idk i dont remember

it's all really dependent on your situation. if your computer is far from your router and in a confined space, your wifi connectivity will take a hit. is your network this slow usually?

blazing aurora
muted patio
summer pasture
#

I have a b450 auros pro wifi without antenna, wifi not always this slow

muted patio
#

If onboard WiFi, you need antennas on the motherboard

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It should have come with them

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That's why bad connection

summer pasture
#

Ok i think i have then how do i install

muted patio
#

They just screw on

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To the gold posts

summer pasture
#

I think i have them is there a channel i can put a picture in

muted patio
#

Just screw them on the gold posts near the top of the back panel

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Should be two wires

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with a base plate

summer pasture
#

Ok, will they work instantly

muted patio
#

Like this

wifi80211.png
#

Yes

summer pasture
#

Ok thanks

muted patio
#

👍

jagged escarp
#

anyone ever have a m.2 just randomly stop reading in bios, causes PC to crash, upon restarting just stays on bios screen.

summer pasture
#

@muted patio sorry to bother you again but do i put the actual antenae ontop of the pc or behind or just anywhere after i screw on the gold pieces

muted patio
#

I'd put on top of the PC, somewhere it's in the open

summer pasture
#

Ok thanks thats all i was confused about

scenic quiver
#

So the work build i put together now won't power up. This pc is less than 2 months old. When I hit power button I hear a faint click from psu, and then nothing. No power up, nothing. But some power is passively passing through cause the rgb on the mobo stays lit whether pc is on or off. Psu is a gigabyte p750gm.

stoic island
#

uhhhh

muted patio
stoic island
#

Look at their top community post

scenic quiver
#

This work pc stays plugged into a UPS so I doubt a surge in power caused it to "blow".

stoic island
#

The powersupply itself has a faulty design

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GN is currently trying to investigate what about the p-gm design is making it blow up in certain cases

muted patio
#

Those PSU's are bad, it most likely failed.

shut rampart
#

hi

#

can someone help me

scenic quiver
#

That first comment.. ugh how did I not catch this when I ordered all the parts. 🤦‍♂️

shut rampart
#

Im looking to buy a pc that can run 15+ minecraft at once

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for 2.6k

stoic island
#

Well, it's still jumping to conclusions, what info can you tell me about the rest of the parts? @scenic quiver

stoic island
#

For a server...?

shut rampart
#

?

#

yes

stoic island
#

Oh for server should be fairly simple

shut rampart
#

its for a server which I can afk on

stoic island
#

if you want to run 15+ clients with like 4gb of ram dedicated to each client tho....

shut rampart
#

its going to be using a script

#

so its going to be using something

scenic quiver
#

I can tell you whatever you need to know. I don't run this pc out of the norm, its used for sketchup designing and rendering.

shut rampart
#

and 2gb

#

of ram

#

for ea minecraft

stoic island
#

oh boy

#

So you won't be hosting the server, you'll want clients running minecraft?

shut rampart
#

yes

stoic island
#

lotta ram time

shut rampart
#

si

stoic island
#

lemme make a list

#

@scenic quiver can you give us a list of the parts?

#

on pcpp?

shut rampart
#

sadly my old computer can only run 4

stoic island
#

What specs on that old computer?

shut rampart
#

well my friend wants to build a computer which can run 15 minecraft

#

not me

#

but this is my computer

stoic island
#

lmao I have the same board and the same ram

shut rampart
#

for me to run 5 or more

stoic island
#

and that ram sucks for me

shut rampart
#

do i just need to add more ram

stoic island
#

I'm guessing more ram first, maybe more cores will help too

scenic quiver
#

Asus rog strix b550-e gaming wifi mobo
Ryzen 7 3700x
Radeon 5600xt
Patriot viper gaming ram (64gb)
Coolermaster ml240 v2 aio pump
Gigabyte p750gm psu
Samsung 970 ebo m.2 for OS
And a Samsung 970 evo ssd 2tb storage.

stoic island
shut rampart
#

let me ask them

stoic island
#

If not, 5900x stock isn't as bad as 5950x stock @shut rampart

scenic quiver
#

I've never done a cmos reset?

shut rampart
#

no they can't wait

stoic island
shut rampart
#

I guess 5900x it is

stoic island
#

Sad, can they wait for 5900x though? It's better, but it's still slowly coming in stock once every few days

#

if not, we can go 10850k

shut rampart
#

hes wants it right now

#

in like 1-5 days

stoic island
#

Alright

#

10850k time

shut rampart
#

I thought the 5950x was a gpu

stoic island
#

what

shut rampart
#

didn't know it was a cpu

stoic island
#

there's a 295x and 295x2..?

shut rampart
#

well im kinda new to pc building the link i gave you was my first pc

stoic island
#

well, there's 5600xt and 5700xt are GPUs

shut rampart
#

and since I saw the gpu was higher number

#

I amuse i was a gpu

stoic island
#

5950x, 5900x, 5800x, 5600x CPUs
3950x 3900x 3800x 3700x 3600x 3600 CPUs

shut rampart
#

yha i forgot all of thoose

stoic island
#

3090 3080 3070 3060 GPUs
2080(ti)(s) 2070 (s) 2060 (s) GPUs

shut rampart
#

well i have a amd gpu

stoic island
#

6900xt 6800xt 6700xt GPUs

shut rampart
#

which is the 5700xt

stoic island
#

@shut rampart anyways what are they planning to do with GPU?

#

everything else will be decently easy to get

shut rampart
#

what are the options

#

just game

#

rendering minecraft blocks

#

etc

#

nothing else

stoic island
#

Options are :
Spend 2x MSRP for GPUs
Wait days for drops

shut rampart
#

he really wants it now

#

so 2x

stoic island
#

damn

#

might have to pay scalpers

#

2600$ max budget right?

shut rampart
#

he doesn't really want an insane gpu

#

just rendering minecraft

stoic island
#

Yes, but every gpu is hard to get

#

anything from the past 5 years

#

all the way down to like a 660ti

#

sad but true

shut rampart
#

will a 1050

#

do

stoic island
#

I was thinking something like a 3060

#

1050 kinda trash, even for minecraft

shut rampart
#

well just give him the 3060

#

how mmuch is a 3060

stoic island
#

scalped, 700$, normal price, ~400$

shut rampart
#

ok take the 700

stoic island
shut rampart
#

with the gpu

little osprey
#

Lol

#

you put a 10850k for minecraft 1111

#

kek

muted patio
#

There's a reason

shut rampart
#

he wants it for the threads

#

any other pc?

#

planing to run 50

#

all at the same time

little osprey
#

Ah

#

50?

#

uhh

shut rampart
#

its for playing a minecraft server

#

mainy afking

rich helm
#

50 Minecraft accounts… wow that expensive

shut rampart
#

yup hes rich

little osprey
#

5950x would be better

rich helm
#

Even account codes, which are usually scams, would be expensive

rich helm
little osprey
#

single core

#

threadripper is way too much for this anyways

rich helm
#

Yeah true

#

5900x or 5950x

little osprey
#

na 5950x

#

50 instances is gonna be cucked to run

rich helm
#

Gonna need all 32 threads lol

#

Two pc? 64 threads?

#

That’s what you need

#

Two 5950x

scenic quiver
#

Great news! I just found out my return policy expired. Now I have a $130 paper weight. And still have to buy another psu. Joy.

rich helm
scenic quiver
#

About 2 months.

shut rampart
#

whats the best thread ripper

scenic quiver
#

I'm kicking myself in the head for not reading reviews on this psu. I feel like a dummy. Lol

muted patio
#

Well, you didnt know. Dont feel dumb. Customer reviews never know what theyre talking about other than they plugged it in and it worked.

rich helm
#

4000 dollars

shut rampart
#

what is a call

rich helm
#

3990x

#

Well there a pro version now I think

#

But idk what’s it called

shut rampart
#

@little osprey you can talk to the guy who helped me

#

or girl

little osprey
#

sup boys

#

how does this pc look

scenic turret
#

Why the ram?

shut rampart
#

like i said he wants 50 or 100 mc account

#

runing

rich helm
#

Well ok

little osprey
scenic quiver
#

Was just about to place my pcpp order when I noticed the cpu I had picked out is out of stock. Boy if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all. Today officially sucks.

rich helm
still roostBOT
#
xav#7033 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

rich helm
#

What do you mean?

little osprey
#

Why such a cheap fan? Don't ADMs kill themselves?

rich helm
#

ADM meaning…

little osprey
#

AMD*

#

sorry

rich helm
#

Are you taking about the air cooler?

little osprey
#

yes

worn wave
#

What are you talking about?

rich helm
#

The noctua d15 is amazing

worn wave
#

If you are talking about AMD stock coolers, they are pretty good for a stockc ooler.

rich helm
#

Better than that 240mm aio

#

Noctua fans are super reliable

#

The cooler is very good

little osprey
#

What's the difference with the ram too?

full atlas
#

So tempting yeahbaby

image0.png
little osprey
#

Any reason for the change?

worn wave
#

CL16 is better

rich helm
little osprey
#

3200 vs 3600?

worn wave
#

Cas Latency also matters

rich helm
#

3200 c16 is better than 3600 c18

little osprey
#

r u sure

#

internet doesn't agree

shut rampart
#

thats what i said

#

5950x

little osprey
#

what

shut rampart
#

a 5950x cpu

rich helm
scenic turret
#

I need to tighten my timings

shut rampart
rich helm
#

Well here’s an edited list for aesthetics, chose 3200 because they are equal

#

About

#

If you don’t care about aesthetics or better cooler then you can do icy blues list with any 3060 or if you want aesthetics/better cooler you could do my list @little osprey

scenic plaza
#

guys is it hard to instal the corsair h100i elite capellix?

#

install*

rich helm
scenic plaza
#

how gard is it tho

rich helm
#

Also depends on case

scenic plaza
#

hard*

rich helm
#

What case?

scenic plaza
#

im using the corsair crystal 280x

balmy patio
#

and lmao sometimes using the amd mounting hardware is difficult with the clips and all

#

some coolers use it and some coolers don't

#

but it's not that difficult to install if you follow the correct steps

scenic plaza
#

ok thanks for your help

#

i appreciate it

stoic island
#

trident z memory is NOT going to fit under the second fan of a D15

#

I know that because I have a D15 and Trident z sticks

rich helm
stoic island
#

I also personally don't like b550-f, but that's just moi

#

Fuma 2 also has real nice ram clearance, and close nuff performance to d15

scenic plaza
#

is b550m good

rich helm
scenic plaza
#

what do you guys think

stoic island
#

b550m only tells you Chipset - B550, size, MATX

#

need more to know which exact board

scenic plaza
#

ok one sec

stoic island
#

There's from B550m pro vdh wifi to like B550m aorus pro

#

@rich helm b550-f is fine, I just don't like it, and Corsair makes 0 mesh cases right now afaik

#

only the hole-in-metal front panels

scenic plaza
#

ASUS B550M-PLUS (WiFi) TUF Gaming AMD AM4 microATX Motherboard

stoic island
#

@scenic plaza What price?

#

Decent board, need to know price to determine if worth it or not

scenic plaza
#

140-130ish

#

bc i need wifi as well

stoic island
#

For 120-130, go for it, 130+, meh

#

B550m pro-vdh wifi is usually ~110$

scenic plaza
#

is it good tho

#

like what is vdh mean

stoic island
#

B550m pro vdh wifi is good, just slightly worse

#

just name of the board

scenic plaza
#

oh ok thanks