#building-and-recc-chat
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now that I'm thinking about it
Yo installed the standoff for the M.2 drive right?
and screwed it down
Yes
Good
anyone got a cheap build for minecraft and other triple a hames
At this point try another gpu from work. If that doesnt do it, try and get a soeaker from ther too you csn plug in so we get and idea of thebissue
A hammer might be the fix right now lol 😂
Honestly, I appreciate you taking the time to help. I’m going to try what you said. There is also a micro center nearby, though they told me they may take 21 days to get back to me. I’m gonna save your name and once I discover what it was I’ll shoot you a dm
Id be curious to know thanks!!
🤘 have a good night!
heya, anyone around?
so, building a PCfor a friend after his died in a power outage.
problem is no video out
did realize that the RAM on that list is not on the compar list so tried one that is
some gaming, general internet, writing
wdym by 'some'
didn't buy a vid card because we had a working radeon R9 380 that was good
not hardcore or competitive, more than just casual games
hardcore and competitive games are generally the best optimized and least demanding
my friend is disabled but has been writing for a couple of game projects
I see
what would be your total budget for this and what exactly do you expect to get out of it? High settings 60 fps on recent games or older games on lower settings?
have tried multiple known good vid cards as well as on board, monitor will accept DP and HDMI, both cables and monitor test good (using a laptop)
you misunderstand? we have th parts, it's just not working
ok
also I have been building machines for decades, and I am at a loss for what else to check
um you have another pc that works that you could swap component by component in to see whats not working?
@obsidian sluice I assume reset cmos already, do you have debug LEDs on your board?
tried: multiple vid cards, on board vid (HDMI, don't have a VGA monitor). cleared CMOS. reseated everything. tested power supply, outputs in spec. removed everything except CPU, cooler, RAM and power
no leds
fans spin when you press power button?
Tried single stick in each slot (1 stick a1, boot, remove stick, 1 stick a2, boot, remove stick, etc)?
now, I did notice that the RAM wasn't on the compat list so got some that is, chnge from errors (no able connected, no signal' to just 'n signal' but still no video
tred that with the old RAM...
fans spin, lights up
Fun, what specific kit of ram did you get?
just tried single stick of RAM w. on board HDMI output, no signal
corsair CMD32GX4M2C3200C16
on the old ram would give a no cable error as well as no signal, w. the new ram only gives 'no signal'
oh, aso new seasonic 650w PS
corsair ram 
@obsidian sluice weird question, but, any USB devices plugged in?
(keyboard, mouse, headset, etc, anything usb)
ahh you think usb controller is screwing up mr1?
Possibly, worth a try
Z490 pro4 does seem to not have debug LEDs so that's sad
Everything so far should be compatible without issues
no usb connected; right now is only mobo, cpu, ram power and sometimes vid card that worked before
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LZJLBc toughts?
As a preparatory measure, could you unplug all cables not essential to boot? @obsidian sluice (Aka, leave CPU_Fan plugged in, but might want to unplug chassis fans, unplug front panel io, unplug case usb, etc)
get b560
When things are weird, might as well take as many extra factors out as possible
b460 cant oc ram past 2666 with an i5
also
get a cheaper m.2
sn750 is rly good rn
should be 62 bucks or so
<nods> I did still have case audio and SB connected, just tested w/o no change
also that psu is meh
what do you recomend
id go for a segotep one
ok
one sec ill lgrab a linmk
? why do you say that? my understanding is that season is one ofthe better brands and build for several other brands
Seasonic, sorry ca't type
@desert gulch CX-F isn't bad, it's basically just a CX with RGB
still for price theres prolly better
especially since you cant see rgb in that case
Yea for the price there are better, but some people like spending extra for rgb..?
cause it has a shroud
im betting it intakes from below
so you wouldnt even see it
don'tcare about lighting at all
@obsidian sluice I believe most of Corsair's PSUs still come from CWT, not Seasonic, although I do believe some of their high end models like the HX are OEMed by Seasonic
and the intake fan is toward the case not the bottom
both are fine
ok
whats your budget for this build?
less than 1500
ok
Anyways, with your case @obsidian sluice , might be time to poke customer support for various parts about RMAs for possible DoAs? For whatever you haven't been able to test as working (Motherboard, and I believe you haven't tested ram to be working on other systems yet? and the PSU?)
yes
ok
this is the PS, misremembered the rating, is 750W https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-ssr-750fx-750w/p/N82E16817151187?
litterally everithing a human being can do on a computer
so ill be editing in blender playing games etc
ax200 pcie adapters for like 30$
ax200 is the Intel wifi 6 m.2 chip
Mr1111 yeah, was leaning towards an RMA, was hoping to find something I had missed. I had called newegg RMA support and they suggested I try here
is the link i posted good?
@obsidian sluice Might also want to contact manufacturers (Like Asrock), since they'd be the people that would know about any product-specific issues that might not be common knowledge.
mr1 how much is a good keeb+mouse would you say?
I fille din the webform at asrock's site with the same questions, expect at least tomorrow for a reply. Thanks again for your and everyone's help!
@stoic island what do you think of this list for everything from gaming to blender to editing and stuff? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZHpT9N
:)
budget 1500 and that includes pc and all periphals, monitor and stuff
not bad
could prolly cut it down a bit
don't like 10700f with current situation lel
ye
Might want iGPU to last you a bit
cheaper than 3700x tho at least
3700x is 330
actually 10700 non f is like 5 bucks more rn
so ig why not
can you dm me list
its right here
but yeah
one thing on there
10700 is better deal maybe rn
so you can have igpu so you can wait to grab a 3060ti at msrp
im here
What motherboard @tawny plover ?
yes i only have one stick
Gray slot closest to CPU?
NOT PCI-E POWER
And because the board needs the ram in the gray slot
PCI-E Power is different from CPU P OWER
oh
PCI-E power is for graphics cards ONLY
Change the ram to the gray slot
ok
Should work after that
is ram susposed to take a bunch of force to install?
CPU power might also be 2 4 pin plugs
feels like it could snap the motherboard
SOmetimes it can be tough, yes. Slot it in straight up and down, not angled
Then click one end at a time
yes
Not click both ends in by pushing on the middle
it goes in a lot harder than the tutorials i saw online
Ok, now for the CPU power
It might be 2 4 pin cables
Not a single solid 8 pin
or 6+2
ok
ok
Or 4+4
ok lemme look for them quick
i tucked all my cables under the cover thing of case
where theres a bunch of room that you cant see through glass panel
ok
found it but now im going to untangle it so it can reach
ok got it in
it was a 8 pin, not a 4+4 or 6+2
is that a good thing?
said cpu on it
That's fine yes
6+2 is ALWAYS for graphics card
8 or 4+4 is for cpu
Try it again now
ok
one sec i gotta plug it in
since i didnt want to shock myself while working on it
is it normal to have a 20+4 for the big connector?
all tutorials i have seen have a 24
Yes
It's fine
ok
MIght restart once or twice
i did test monitor and cables using my ps4
and it worked with my ps4
so i know monitor and cable are good
That's good also
still nothing
Hmmmm
That doesn't matter, fan usually goes down though
If there's a hole in the case under PSU, fan goes down
because there is a filter there
yes there is
still nothing on monitor
didnt seem to restart
fans just keep spinning
Yeah and there are no diagnostic lights on the board either
no lights
not yet
Ok
i want to get rtx 3070
but cant find one at a good price yet
nothing below 600 that ive seen
US dollars
CPU fan is plugged in at the top by the ram slots?
yes
So, what I would do now is unplug it from the wall. Take out the button cell battery for 1-2 minutes. Put it back in, plug the PC back into the wall and try and boot it again
ok
unplugged
luckily i dont have a graphics card in right now so i can get the battery out
ok battery is out
Leave it out for a full minute
ok
its a good sign that when it was on my hard drive was making noise like it was working right?
Like, just spinning?
That just means it's getting power because the power supply is on
Like a hum or clicking??
No
who did
It's just spending time and posting here
how long until i get orange rank
Oh, very long time
a year?
orange is either MOderator assistant or newegg staff
can i ever earn that?
Possibly, yes!
cool
Newegg Staff you have to work for Newegg lol
And, I'm not staff
should i plug pg back in now?
Ok, put the battery back in and try again
battery first
Turn it on
There is a chance you damaged the CPU or motherboard by using the wrong cable. The power and grounds are complete opposites. Just letting you know you may have to return one or the other
It doesn't have to to cause damage
quick question. Is the switch on the back of my power supply suposed to feel stuck in the middle when flipping it?
Well
feels almost like a notch in the middle
takes a ton of force to move it
yes
Unp0lug it and plug it back in
monitor is a free one i got a while ago
if it works it works though
so it only supports some weird cable and hdmi
its blue
Check monitor input?
Crap
only 1 hdmi port
What amd processor could stream and play most games including AAA Like warzone, and preferably has the same chipset as the 5900x and beyond for upgradability
yea, so that's fine
Motherboard might be damaged
From the wrong power cable
It turns on but the part powering the CPu might be bad now
one sec i will make sure my psu thing is flipped all the way to one side
If it's not displaying anything, that's not a good sign
if the fans are spinning things are getting power
is it fine if my cables are red and yellow and stuff?
No, 5000 series is the end of the road for AMD. next CPu will be a new socket
yes, kethcup and mustard cables are fine lol
If still nothing, might have to return the motherboard
wait
?
i was pushing really hard on power supply switch
and it clicked fully into position
and
Well damn, does that mean r11? Or another r9
IT DISPLAYS ONTO MONITOR!!!
WDYM, new socket is AM5
Hey, looky there!
Ok, cn you return the PSU and get a new one then? XD
I don't like that switch
OH
Is there even a point to building a compete build right now?
well i wont have to switch it off again hopefully
Absolutely, 5900x will be good for many years to come
Just physically unplug it
Does the same thing.
Well, the wrong power cable didn't help you eithe rlol
Now tidy it up and install Windows
oh
ok
IDK, give it a try lol
That should work too
it says rebooot and select proper boot device
Yeah
Gotta have the USB DVD plugged in
it is
how do i do that
Delete key while booting
ok
fans stopped and started up
There is usually a key you push like F8 to change the boot device
ok it said to press del or something else to get in
i pressed delete and im in
where to now
yes theres boot menu with f8
ok
i chose it
its rebooting now i think
ok now do i follow the windows things to install it?
has a bunch of questions
squels and stuff
buzz too
i told you i bought the last one
not supposed to buss
buzz
Return it and get something else lol
What's the budget? I can help find you one on amazon
sounds like a phone vibrating
i think this power supply is fine though
seems to work ok
Squealing fan. Buzzes. Not ok
oh
Quiet PSU, regular fan noise, that's ok
Supposed to be quiet, not like a vibrating phone XD
3070 or maybe even 3060ti
it was 400 watts
Is it an Aresgame
pc part picker said it would work
n1
NO
what
reviews looked fine
now
Read this list from actual testers
thats all i cna afford
PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.6 Last Update: 29-11-2020 Gray - EoL / obsolete. Generally not recommended for purchase since its going to be pre-owned, refurbished or old stock. Green - small form-factor (gold and blue colors are disregarded due to scarcity of SFX PSUs) Gold - best units in the tier (...
Check the bottom
Potentially dangerous
EVGA n1
they could be wrong though right?
No
oh
XD
lol i guess i agree with them it like broke my thumb
For $60 I can find you something to power a 3070
ok
Stand by
Nope
There's a reason some servers have an emoji names "n1goboom"
its going bad
That's where we got the icon for this 
lol vintage ig you can tell me about it later
ok
EVGA N1 is all I need to say
damn e tier?
Yep, they're on the right path now tho
ok good
sounds fun
ok it should get here in a few days
just ordered it
someone told me to get an n1 for this build is the thing
Whoever did that
😐
Please don't listen to them ever again
That's kinda disgusting TBH
I'm surprised aegis, qubex, windshields etc didn't jump down their throat for recommending that
yea then they kicked me after i was having trouble
because they thought i was trolling
got you up and running here
they didnt think i bought an n1
So, just get that new PSU ASAP and carry on
thank you
Welcome!
you guys are the best!
That PSU will power a 3060TI or 3070 no problem
They really kicked you because you said you got an N1 and they didn't believe you?
yup
Wow
they thought i was trolling
im not either lol
That's going to be tough
i used to be in the buildapc discord too
super toxic place
they banned me for posting a meme they deemed offensive
go to general or make a group dm or sumthin
Ok, so now that my message was deleted... I’m looking for a $250 build - any help would be appreciated.
a 250 dollar build?
I mean, that's barely enough for a CPU and motherboard
Yes, obviously not new released stuff
Ebay if you know how to
could prolly get a used optiplex and throw in a gpu later
optiplex 3090 would be my go to
Do they have usb 3.0 in those?
Ok
I trying to get a system to be able to stream a webcam via slobs in my art studio - really nothing other than that.
Don’t want to spend a ton of money because I recently spent over $4k on one - lol
yeah id go for like a 100 dollar ish pc and then a 150 gpu
like a 1650 or sumthin
if you can find one near msrp
thats the challeneg
For sure
used and new gpu market is hell right now
That’s what I am seeing... I got in at the right time for the system I have
yup
Am I allowed to post link here to possible purchases via FB marketplace to get your opinions?
Of courase
yea
Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know.
that's usd right
ye
Yes, used... I offered $250
120gb ssd and 500gb hdd tho lol
so pog
yeah
For sure... I legit don’t need much though.
Hi can someone help me im struggling with something text me in private if you can
put it here if you can
since most ppl wont accept dms
since dms cant rly be moderated well
b450 only worth buying now if it's $50 and you're on a ridiculously tight budget
same price basically but better features
that too
like if your build budget is above $400 just go b550
id assume their budget is over 400
you can get b550 boards for like $80
since b450 tomahawk isnt the cheapest b450 out there
I was happy with my b550m at the end of the day. Went for that one for the upgrade path in the end.
Msi mag mortar wifi
Just a bit of peace of mind really. Only went with a 3700x this time around but look forward to going to 5000 series down the track when I can get one much cheaper.
for $25 I got much better audio, much more rgb support, better vrms, pcie gen 4, better looking board, don't have to use msi software
Yeah can't say I use the msi software.
Played around for like 5 mins using dragon centre to try rgb schemes but ended up leaving it on rainbow and uninstalled that bloat.
I bought the msi board before I knew anything about pcs
what finally triggered me to switch was
I was studying next to my pc, had my rgb set to white
suddenly it started flashing colors and was distracting
oof
turns out dragon center tried to self update and strangled itself in the process
lmao
Lol
and messed itself up so hard that it couldn't be uninstalled by normal means
I had to nuke it
then I was like
man I don't wanna deal with this again
goodbye msi
asus is best mobo company pog?
lol
I mean I don't mind the msi bios at least
i love the value of their tuf series
But idgaf about the desktop software
but they've also made enough glaring mistakes that they shouldn't automatically be trusted
I haven't had a desktop in over 13 years until a couple weeks ago I have no allegiances.
if running hot cpu
they made the worst 5700xts that were thermal throttling at stock because they just copy/pasted their cooler design from their nvidia cards
and blamed it on amd
im with you on this
Asus is ass
the tuf 5700xt was one of the worst
Who summoned me
near as bad as reference
also I'll never forgive them for selling me a laptop with 16gb single channel ram before I knew anything about computers
Asus.. a sus
prolly cheaper
Watch the board come back destroyed cuz of fedex lul
lol
yeah I changed it to 2x8 and now it never drops below 120 fps
single channel pog
3070 master race
I game on my 3070 now
Tuf good asus bad
Basically just have evga make it
Heard their rma is somewhat good kek
But dont believe it tbh
I get 135 mh/s if I run games on my 3070 and 115 mh/s if I run games on my 3080
Im happy the ceo office responded
while both of them are mining
And they said board repair was going to be clear
Its in cali tonight
Coming thursday
M.2 slot plz be fixed
First world problems
the gtx 1050 is still hanging on admirably
runs genshin at 60 fps but getting bottlenecked by the i7-7700hq
occasionally drops to 30-40 but that's cpu's fault
I am super impressed with my 3070. Love how it can hammer POS like cyberpunk but then other games that don't need anywhere near that power blitzes on ultra
i7-7700hq is so bad
it was lagging while I was trying to graph a cone for homework
I've been very happy with my msi b550m. The desktop software is bloat but the hardware has been great so far.
with external cooling
And 1 oofs it
and fresh thermal paste
I was benching it for hwbot and I put an ice pack on the keyboard
I can put aio
had to wipe off condensation after every bench
And oc” to 3733 cl18
What are your thoughts on gigabyte gpus
people hate msi for a lot of reasons
🔥
Literally fire
With no thermal pads in vision lol
msi can't make software worth a damn
Asus cant either
their gpu MSRPs are way higher than anyone else's
like... the 3070 suprim msrp is what $900? $1000? lol
My 3070 gaming oc is a gigabyte. Thermals have been pretty solid so far
they also openly and continuously threaten and blackmail reviewers
even after getting exposed for it
so yeah unethical company too
damn
Just make ibm make pcs again
shouldn't have bought MSI
Lol
like most companies are unethical in some way
Im just happy i got a card tbh
but msi is so proud of it
no vram pads
they are so open about being unethical
core temp is fine
Asus is unethical in rma lol
but vram temp is horrible on gigapoop
Like every maker ever
Literally this
remember when msi got caught using a subsidiary to scalp their own cards on ebay
We cant choose brands
You have to pay for MSI Premium to make them ethical to you lmao
Unless we have stock lil
imagine not having a card thats only restocked twice ever and goes for 2.2k on ebay
Lol
Imagine if that had that
I would care more if we could choose models
Ez
Just blackmail them back
Kek
not hard to avoid msi/gigapoop
Blackmail war
Just happy i got a card lol
Love how everyone needs a 3070/80 for their grandma
Til messaging the ceo office of asus always waives the rma “cid”
Gigabit
Bite
Cause your biting your teeth
dreaddddd
u s mell
Going to take a shower anyway today
Good for skin
And then put on moisturizer
On the first one, that air cooler is totally overkill for a 5600X and there's no way you need an 850 PSU in there, and you'll have a very hard time finding an AMD GPU
What motherboard? Or is a prebuilt? Looks like the BIOS got corrupted
m2n68-am plus
so I should go with the second one?
Mothers board
I'd go for the second one personally
ok ty
Can anybody help me
Yeah you'll need to extract this file to a flash drive and try to get into the BIOS menu https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N68-AM_Plus/M2N68_AM_ASUS_Plus_1804.zip
Look closer. It says "bad BIOS checksum, starting BIOS recovery"
If it won't let you into BIOS at all then you can't really fix it
I think it’s pretty much dead
Make sure keyboard is working
Yes it is
You can try to clear the CMOS but I doubt it would help
I think the bios is corrupted
Your manual says "hold delete to access BIOS", that't what you did?>
lol rip
Ok 1 min I will give it a try
hi falcie :))
Hey lili
Still no😩
Then yep it's dead, RIP
lol rippe
Can I fix it in a repair shop
probs not
Not it it doesn't go to BIOS
Ok
but the chances of a repair shop doing that is like nothing
ASUS won't touch it probably since it's very out of warranty
asus does not care yea
easier said than done lul
I tryout all buttons
😩
Straight from the manual
It's worth a try but not likely since that only clears the settings data and doesn't reset the flash chip
well rip pc then
😦
That's ridiculous, I was working on my PC swapping CPU and everything when I was 9
As a parent it upsets me slightly stifling a potential talent...
yea a lot of parents suck

im the only cool parent
When I was 9 I went on my dads work pc and started deleting stuff 

Lol my 3 year old does that
And installs random apps from Microsoft Store
😆
hi\
hi

Nice lmao
Ms store best
bad cpu cooler
oh idk but its not enough for this cpu 🤔
@haughty void make sure youre using intel 10gbps card
im getitng those already
for networking
i was discussing with another discord about it
no realtek trash
we were talking about SFP+
hell yea
since regular switches are crazy priced
for 10gbit ethernet
and somneone suggested a microtik r9outer
switch i meanm
this was suggested
now i just gotta find the network cards
Is Higher GHZ better for cpu right?????
core is too
proxmox virtual environment
hypervisor that plays nice with consumer hw
What about 16 core 3.4 GHZ
What are you comparing @wicked frigate?
Cpu
Which ones
If that is good
lol
any sugestions for Direct Cables?
not rly
who
lol
its worth it
i just used 10g base t
huh
worked fine
im hoping itll be good locally
i wish i could just pass all my internet through the 10gig switch
Took forever to find the drivers but they work alright
could someone take a look at this build and let me know if there is a catch?
pretty sure this is the latest and greatest AMD process and graphics cards
SUPER surprised to have found it
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/cyberpowerpc-gamer-supreme-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-9-5900x-2tb-hdd-1tb-ssd-32gb-ram-rx-6900-xt-en/15317741
Enjoy a smooth and flawless gaming experience with this CyberPowerPC Gamer Supreme gaming PC. Powered by a 3.7GHz AMD Ryzen 9 5900X processor and 32GB of DDR4 RAM, this machine delivers incredible power that can effortlessly handle the most demanding games and intensive applications. It also packs an AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT graphics card to render...
like i feel like its too good to be true
Canadian dollars mind you
The catch is the price
3200usd still overpriced
lemme check what that'd cost on xotic
problem is, i can't find that AMD processor and graphics card anywhere... its sold out everywhere and has been for the last like 9 months
Just wait then
Don't spend an insane amount of money on something that is not worth it at all
CyberPower usually cheaps out alot on many many parts
Reason: Bad word usage
i have been waiting, my current computer is horrible.
On digital store that config is 4K usd
What?
@rich helm just pulled it up on xotic, ~3400usd config
and I know xotic uses better parts :P
100%
share the link?
I seriously don't want to know what psu is cyberpower is going to use
one sec lemme make this sharable
This is with a 860w Ion+ plat psu
https://xoticpc.com/collections/g11-omega/products/g11-omega-ryzen?conf=351220
CyberPower has some of the cheapest parts, in my opinion one of the worst System Integrators
Oh yea, that doesn't have an aio yet, but just 50$ for an aio on top
anyways
prob better options, I just like xotic for their quality
usually a psu from company like that won’t blow up, doesn’t mean it good either. i’d change before warranty runs out haha
Well, it's not an absolute "no, you can't buy it", but be very cautious, and double check all the other options you may have
