building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

if that does not work there is more we can do but idk if you would feel conferrable doing it

[potent portal]

He already did the pin jump test and PSU came on

[muted patio]

MIght be bad motherboard

It happens

or a bad switch? Tried manually jumping power switch pins with something metal?

[cerulean trellis]

ok

wich ones

[potent portal]

True, I've seen switches that weren't soldered well

[muted patio]

Ye

If jumping pins doesn't do anything, mobo bad

[muted patio]

The pins for the power switch

Touch something metal to them

Paperclip mebbe

[cerulean trellis]

could i use a screw driver?

[muted patio]

As long as it's not coated black

[cerulean trellis]

ok

nope

[potent portal]

Test with another metal object too (in case what you used wasn't conductive enough) but if it's really not coming on even after that then yep, MB is bad

[cerulean trellis]

ok

i got it thx for the help

[brittle tinsel]

what is a good ups wattage?

[muted patio]

Whatever the wattage of your power supply is

1000VA = 650W
1300 VA = 750W
1500 VA = 850W

[brittle tinsel]

850, but what about at least one monitor in case power went out?

[muted patio]

1500 VA fine, you're not supposed to run the PC on the UPS, just enough time to safely shut it down

[brittle tinsel]

I can get a 900 for $150

[muted patio]

Not big enough

You'll fry your power supply

[brittle tinsel]

I know that I was just wondering about the monitor included so I can see to shut it down or save my game

[muted patio]

They need to have enough wattage even when NOT under battery power

So you need a 1500 VA to match your power supply

[brittle tinsel]

ill just skip the ups then because anything over 900w is way to expensive

[muted patio]

They are not cheap

Guy here today cooked TWO 850W seasonic because had too small of a UPS

[little osprey]

wasted 240$ of power supply

lol

[sharp tundra]

Never cheap out on your power supply man, you'd end up regretting it

[brittle tinsel]

will the surge protecter I have help prevent issues from power loss? cause around here if you sneeze the power goes out, not including hurricanes

[sharp tundra]

No

[brittle tinsel]

no?

[fossil halo]

@kindred temple what's in it

[sharp tundra]

Surge protectors don't magically make a psu better

I wish

[brittle tinsel]

no no we were talking ups, not psu

I have a good PSU or so I think any ways

[sharp tundra]

Oh

[brittle tinsel]

is the Enermax Revolution D.F. 850 W 80+ Gold good one?

[sharp tundra]

So what you want is an electric generator battery to keep your pc running during a hurricane?

[brittle tinsel]

no no, I was just asking about ups so that I had a temporary source so I could save my game and safely shut down

but I dont have the money for one

they jump up in price after 1000w

[sharp tundra]

I mean sure, but what game are you playing often that doesn't have an autosave feature built into the game?

[small osprey]

yes thats very good

[fossil halo]

Is the seasonic s12iii 650w bronze good?

[brittle tinsel]

ats, and i forget the name of the otherone

[sharp tundra]

Ats?

[fossil halo]

Is the gigabyte pg-m good?

[sharp tundra]

People say it go boom

[brittle tinsel]

american truck simulator

[sharp tundra]

It's online, it should already have an autosave feature

[brittle tinsel]

I dont trust gigabyte to many dead parts on arrival

[gusty pasture]

@fossil halo the psu is the same one i have it its been fine no issues

[brittle tinsel]

its a single player game bro

[sharp tundra]

Wait

I'm thinking of ETS

Euro truck sim

[brittle tinsel]

uik

ik*

[sharp tundra]

Honestly if you feel like saving a game of ATS is more important than trying to evacuate from a hurricane, go for it man, no one is stopping you.

[fossil halo]

@gusty pasture oh no

I asked as a joke

[gusty pasture]

oh

oof

[fossil halo]

That psu is a galaxy note 7

[muted patio]

Pgm and s12iii so bad.

[gusty pasture]

idc

its been fine

[muted patio]

Lol

[fossil halo]

But I have a s12iii which is bad but won't explode "mostly"

[muted patio]

Yeah no boom

Just poof off

[fossil halo]

So @gusty pasture were in a similar boat

[gusty pasture]

yep well i guess...

[brittle tinsel]

dude every time we have to evac we go 3-6k in debt, im tired of it, the house we are building will be able to handle a tornado or a hurricane, and the land is above sea level so less chance of flooding

[fossil halo]

Yea lmao
Arguably the pgm is more worth it than the s12iii bc they both don't work as a psu but at least the pgm works as a bomb

[gusty pasture]

my psus been fine

[fossil halo]

🤷‍♂️

[sharp tundra]

Well, that's just what tends to happen man. Do you have insurance to cover hurricane and tornado damage?

[brittle tinsel]

probably not

[sharp tundra]

Well that helps tremendously

[muted patio]

Everything ia fine until its not. It has no protections so if something goea wrong it ALL goes wrong.

[fossil halo]

LMAO

What is the avg life span of a s12iii

[sharp tundra]

It's easier for insurance companies to fulfill a claim such as that one, cause ita nit like you told the hurricane to destroy your house just so you can get a new one lol

[fossil halo]

I think I have some wareanty

I didn't throw away the box

[muted patio]

Depends on how you load them.

[gusty pasture]

Whatever

[fossil halo]

3700x gt 710

LMAO

Runs ~14 hours a day

[kindred temple]

@fossil halo 3550k, 8gb ram ddr3, GTX 465

[fossil halo]

Oh dang

For what

75$

Not the worst thing ever

Should be able to handle GeForce now?

[sharp tundra]

That's worse than my parents AIO PC

[fossil halo]

Can't say the same

[blazing aurora]

anything can handle geforce now

[fossil halo]

True

[kindred temple]

@fossil halo yeah it is decent for the price. Just a little bit of a train wreck lol

[patent wraith]

guy's best high end pc 4k 120 fps with ray tracing enabled
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PDKp4d

[fossil halo]

wait no way

for real tho

its so cheap

and easy 69,420 fps on any game 16k res rtx on

[cerulean trellis]

@muted patio Thx for helping me my computer is finally workin

Working*

[fossil halo]

best deal

[small osprey]

fortnite ready

[fossil halo]

rx 470 fortnite 165 fps

maybe on 400p lowest settigns

[solid dust]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QVgJPV

Is this a decent build mostly for gaming, and then also running some modeling programs such as blender or solidworks?

For gaming I’d play 1080p

The kbam I can get for like 100 total at a local store, I just included them if you though of any better alternatives

[little osprey]

id say its good for gaming

i dont have any knowledge on modeling programs tho

[pliant schooner]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vjDDfP

how much fps u guys think i will get ^^^

[little osprey]

idk

why no m.2*

pretty beefy mb

[pliant schooner]

u weird asf

[little osprey]

??????

[silk estuary]

Thank you

Lol yeah

Didn't plan on it haha

[pine stone]

Bruh

Couldn’t find the 3060 ti anywhere

[wraith goblet]

what are u using that for?

because if your 4k gaming just get a 10400/f/10600k (if it is cheap)

[pine stone]

I’m getting a 10600k but I also need a 3060 ti

[wraith goblet]

rocketlake is coming out in like 30 days

[pine stone]

Price?

[muted patio]

Nothing official listed yet

[wraith goblet]

you do understand rocketlake-s is an architecture, right? not a single product.

also intel prolly isnt releasing low end skus this time around (supposedly)

[fossil halo]

there is a i5 i think not sure about i3

and btw what was the evga 3060ti xc msrp if anyone knows

like pre tariff

[sage crown]

is the Z590-A gaming WIFI bad ???

[earnest olive]

they are making i3-10105f comet lake refresh instead of low end rocket lake

probably due to supply constraints

but who knows

they can make a lot of comet lake

[fossil halo]

most likely not considering its a z590 chipset

most likely very expensive but also really good

[sage crown]

Oh ok

[fossil halo]

what cpu do u want to put in it

[sage crown]

Cause I'm planny to upgrade and over clock

I9-10850k I already have it bought

[fossil halo]

oh dang

then yea

z590s gonna be good

gonna be mad expensive tho prob

yea 330$

a z490 would do fine too but i mean if u got 330$ to blow on a motherboard why not

[sage crown]

Ya thx man man told me I was stupid for buying it told what for to did not listen told me I could save 1.2k on it

[rich helm]

@icy goblet did you get your 12 pin extension from cable mod?

[icy goblet]

Mine is from Asiahorse

[pliant schooner]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vjDDfP

so its a good pc ??

[rich helm]

I would do Asia horse but they only have black and white in 12 pin 😦

[rich helm]

Most original parts list I’ve ever seen

[icy goblet]

I know they have a black one on amazon right now.

[pliant schooner]

will it run fast tho @rich helm

[rich helm]

THEY DO

[rich helm]

Oh wait are you serious or just one of those trollers that post really good parts list and ask if it’s good

[pliant schooner]

umm no im just new to budding pcs

[rancid lodge]

Why 1000 watt

[pliant schooner]

and just asking

[rich helm]

Yes it’s pretty good but some things that could be/need to be changed

[icy goblet]

https://www.amazon.com/ASIAHORSE-Extension-Micro-Fit-Connector-300MM-White/dp/B08LNFPP1B/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=asiahorse%2B12%2Bpin%2Bto%2Bdual%2B8-pin%2Bcable%2Bextension%2Bnvidia&qid=1614747252&sr=8-12&th=1

[rancid lodge]

You could go with 850

[pliant schooner]

like what

whats wrong with a 100

1000

whats the dif

[rancid lodge]

Far far more expensive really

Once you go above 850 most PSUs get expensive

[pliant schooner]

well im good with the pice

[rancid lodge]

750 would prob be too little for a 3080 and 10900k

[pliant schooner]

well a 1000 will just be fine

[rancid lodge]

I mean it’s ultra overkill but yeah it works

Idk what you’re using it for though so

[pliant schooner]

well like fort or cod or gta

[rancid lodge]

Okay so super overkill

[pliant schooner]

the 1000 wats is not going to affecte anything right

affect

[rancid lodge]

Nope, I mean I doubt you’ll spike a 3080 above 1000w playing any of those titles

[pliant schooner]

will my fps be good

[rancid lodge]

Chief your FPS will be more than fine

[pliant schooner]

like 240

max settings 1440

p

[rancid lodge]

Assuming you can also spend an extra few hundred for a higher Hz monitor

[pliant schooner]

i alr have a 140

240

[rancid lodge]

But even then higher FPS still helps on lower hz

144 hz?

Should be fine

[pliant schooner]

240

ailenware one

[rancid lodge]

Okay 240hz is pretty solid

Competitive gaming?

[pliant schooner]

so my fps is going to be like 320

how much u think on 1440 max settings

[rancid lodge]

Well for fortnite at 1440, I’d expect around 200? Not super familiar with fortnite but COD you should get high 100s

Maybe better but

[jagged ember]

If you're really worried just go look up some benchmarks

[rancid lodge]

Mhm

[rich helm]

Here I edited it https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Td9QD

[jagged ember]

But you really won't have any issues running fortnite for sure

[rancid lodge]

Really though unless you’re competitive gaming it’s super overkill

Yeah

[jagged ember]

That game is really easy to run

[rancid lodge]

Yeah fortnite isn’t too tough

Even budget PCs can run it over 60

[jagged ember]

Cod I run at 1440 and I get around 100 frames with all other settings low on a 2070s

I need the frames to win the games

Plus no one actually plays cod just to look at the scenery lol

[pliant schooner]

my budget is around 4k @rich helm

[earnest olive]

I got worse at league after upgrading to a better setup :(

[rancid lodge]

Yeah prob around mid 100s with medium graphics at 1440 on a 3080

[pliant schooner]

alr so my pc is really good

like a comp player pc

[rancid lodge]

Yeah I’d say for competitive that’s more than solid

[pliant schooner]

alr thank you

gtg

[jagged ember]

If you can get your hands on a 3000 series...

[rancid lodge]

Yeahhhh

Assuming you can do that

which is highly unlikely close to MSRP

[jagged ember]

It won't be

Unless someone is really generous or an idiot

Or both, if you're lucky enough

[rancid lodge]

Or maybe a lucky snatch or shuffle win idk

[jagged ember]

sells a 3080 under msrp

Lol yeah shuffle is the way

[rancid lodge]

3060s are the shuffle king now

[jagged ember]

Eh 3060 is

Meh

[rancid lodge]

Yeah

[jagged ember]

Good workstation card tho

[rancid lodge]

Man’s got 4k budget though so he can prob crank out the extra 500-600 for scalper prices

[jagged ember]

True, true

[rancid lodge]

I’m still trying to snatch myself a 5900x

Happy I got to order my case though, was going for 207 USD from Amazon warehouse in very good condition

[jagged ember]

Just like I'm snatching these segues to our sponsor

[rancid lodge]

LTT segue moment

[jagged ember]

Sure is

You got a case tho nice

Are you building a pc currently?

[rancid lodge]

Mhm my second build

Lian Li O11D XL black

[jagged ember]

That's massive isn't it?

[rancid lodge]

Yeah it’s a chunky case, won’t be filling it until GPU supply stabilizes but I will be slapping a 5900x in it along with my XFX 580 (for now)

[jagged ember]

Chonker

[rancid lodge]

prob gonna grab a m.2 and a extra HDD

might get the HDD later but definitely considering a m.2

Since my storage situation now isn’t ideal

<45 GB left

Definitely gonna get at least a 4 or 6 TB 3.5 in HDD for those hotswap bays, very useful for moving lots of 3Ds Max and blend files around

[jagged ember]

Get a wd

People will be upset if you get a seagate

[rancid lodge]

Yeah I was thinking western dig

[jagged ember]

Seagate has a higher failure rate

[rancid lodge]

For a m.2, is intel’s new 460 good (or is it 640?)

[muted patio]

B560

[jagged ember]

Not familiar with that m.2

[rancid lodge]

Hang on

[jagged ember]

But I guess the master list can tell whether it's good or not

[rancid lodge]

Jeez I slipped it’s the 670p

[muted patio]

Oh, you mean an actual Intel NVME drdive?

None are good

[rancid lodge]

Idk where I got

Yeah

Yikes, okay

[small tinsel]

I has question when yall have a chance 😄

[rancid lodge]

Any suggestions for 1 TB M.2s?

[muted patio]

Mushkin pilot e

[jagged ember]

Mp34, sn750

Samsung

Also possible

[muted patio]

Or Hynix P31 gold

[jagged ember]

Or that

[rancid lodge]

Alr I’ll check those out, already looked at the Samsung stuff

Hm the 2TB Mushkin is off 30% on Newegg

[jagged ember]

Whatever's cheaper ig

[rancid lodge]

Yeah

This m.2 is the last thing I can fit in my budget which I’ve stretched just a little bit far but

I do need the storage

[small tinsel]

I have a laptop question. But yall would know better than me or could find out faster potentially.
I said last week I got the thinkpad but I canceled my order cause they were estimating June arrival date XD
So new question. What is the best laptop I can get within a week or two max? (this laptop is for 3d modeling/game engine/photoshop stuff, not gaming)

[pliant lake]

budget?

[small tinsel]

3500 tops I would say

[little osprey]

yikers.

It probably is possible

but expensive.

Photoshop loves multicore.

My renders go quite smooth on my 3700x compared to the old i5-2500.

so thats the first thing to look for.

[small tinsel]

I am willing to live with a 2080ti or whatever the equivalent is. needs 32 ram atleast. i7 atleast.

[little osprey]

i mean, probably could find one with a zen3 chip and a 3000 series mobile

[small tinsel]

zen3 chip? Whats that?

I hear 3000 series wernt as good as 2080s? Not even as good as 2070s?

[little osprey]

3000 series is close to 2080ti

assuming 3070-3080

2080ti is still SLIGHTLY better

Keyword *Slightly

its not like a 1030 vs a 3070

iirc 3070 has more cuda cores but less vram

[pliant lake]

Photoshop can benefit from multi core, but single core is a larger impact on performance.

[small tinsel]

What do you think of this?
Seems like good specs for the price compaired to the other laptops I have found.. so not sure if there is something wrong with this brand or line?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-gs66-15-6-300hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i7-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-1tb-ssd-32gb-memory-black/6448275.p?skuId=6448275

[fossil halo]

@little osprey the bottleneck 🤣

[little osprey]

Yea I was never planning on getting that i9

I was still running an i7 4790 but a family member was giving it away

But a 3060ti or 3070 won't be readily available for a year or two but in getting good frames compared to before so it works

[hollow grail]

msi is TRASH

and u dont waht that i7

want

intel on laptops is kinda really bad rn

[small tinsel]

@hollow grail have anything in mind?

[hollow grail]

the clevo i sent you

[quiet junco]

Get a desktop, laptops are loud as hell

[small tinsel]

@quiet junco lol im looking at laptops for a reason XD
I have a desktop

[desert gulch]

Mini itx could always be nice

Some what portable and can get a lot for the money

[jagged ember]

yes everywhere we go has two wall plugs and a monitor

[next brook]

lol does this chat ever not spam

🥲

[jagged ember]

go ask general lol

[desert gulch]

Well there's portable monitors

Like those usb c ones

[vagrant olive]

mf walmart delayed my cpu

[clever eagle]

umm

[formal cosmos]

is this normal?

that lights up everytime i boot my pc up

[jagged ember]

No that's an error led I think

Take a closer look and see what the led's label says

[uncut pelican]

Sometimes they turn on just because

[jagged ember]

Ohh

I thought they meant it was constant

[uncut pelican]

But still take a look at what it says

[jagged ember]

If it lights up for a small time period while the pc is booting it's not an issue as far as I know

[formal cosmos]

nah

it’s only on when i boot up

[uncut pelican]

Yeah thats fine

[formal cosmos]

is ddu safe to use?

[wise sorrel]

Now awaiting a video card to begin

[formal cosmos]

so... i’m reinstalling my gpu drives. all i have to do is install geforce experience and download my driver there right?

is it that easy?

[stoic island]

use ddu first

then geforce experience

and drivers

[formal cosmos]

but is that the correct way to get my drivers?

i’m reinstalling gpu drivers because of that stuttering problem i was having

everytime i boot up my pc the VGA led turn on. is that bad?

[formal cosmos]

to uninstall my drivers?

sorry if i’m kinda stupid. not "kinda", i am stupid

[stoic island]

Yes, ddu uninstalls drivers

If VGA light comes on and back off, usually just normal booting things

[formal cosmos]

oh okay

[uncut pelican]

@stoic island haha egghead 🥚

[stoic island]

wha

oh lol

[charred compass]

hi guys i’m building my pc and i put in the cooler kraken and then i realized i put the damn cables inside the white strip on the case would that be okay or would i have to unscrew the white strip and put the cables outwards?

[lament fulcrum]

i mean it should be fine if you wanna keep it like that

just depends on how you want it to look

[brittle tinsel]

personally I would turn the lcd so the wires come out to the left of the photo and are a bit more straight

you can control which way the text or what ever is turned in their software

[lament fulcrum]

thats a good feature

[brittle tinsel]

but again Personal Opinion

[charred compass]

i think as long as the tubes are lower it should be okay right and also the motherboard has this huge thing blocking the left

[brittle tinsel]

disregard what I just said, the ram would block you from doing it. I didnt see that

I feel dumb now

[lament fulcrum]

as long as the rad is higher than the pump its fine

or the entry of the tubes into the rad

[charred compass]

oh okay good cuz i’ve been building this damn thing for 7 hours LMAO with a janky screwdriver and a lot of reading

[brittle tinsel]

oof

[lament fulcrum]

as long as its coming together lol

[charred compass]

and the first time i placed the cage that holds the cooler wrong and didn’t realize till after i put the fans in lol

[lament fulcrum]

i need to get some duster and clean mine

[brittle tinsel]

my buddy couldnt get it to work however he was setting it up ( would have helped but multiple states away) so he had to pay a local shop $60 to build it and it took them like 6 days, high quality build at least

[lament fulcrum]

60$ isnt bad at all

as long as they insure it

[brittle tinsel]

I dont know if they did or didnt

but it works

and has all the parts, and he isnt calling me a 3AM to help him build it anymore so WIN

[lament fulcrum]

well i mean in the case that something breaks during build time

lmaoo

[charred compass]

all i need now is to plug in all the cables and screw in the cooler from the top

[lament fulcrum]

make sure to cable manage while its not fully assembled if you want. always best practice to tho

[brittle tinsel]

is that the z73 or diff model?

[stoic island]

Cable management doesn't matter smh

[lament fulcrum]

**but it looks so nice **

[brittle tinsel]

what is the difference between the EK and the EK Elite?

is it worth the extra $50?

[charred compass]

it is the z73

@brittle tinsel

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel the ek-aio and the ek-aio elite? For some reason testing on the elite shows it worse, maybe just run to run variance or defects, the difference is the elite is push-pull, with fans on both sides, when ek-aio is just pull

[brittle tinsel]

ah

[stoic island]

But it doesn't matter

[lament fulcrum]

that's why i said if you want

[stoic island]

"always best practice to tho" says otherwise :P

[brittle tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/that70s-show-ashton-kutcher-michael-kelso-burn-gif-4891812

[lament fulcrum]

:o

[stoic island]

:D

[lament fulcrum]

cable managing makes it easier to clean down the road

[stoic island]

It doesn't..?

Unless for some reason you're getting dust in the back of your case, then we have other problems

[lament fulcrum]

if only my duster wasn't hitting all these cables in the way instead of this dust

[brittle tinsel]

I sorta gotta take necropsi's side here, but only sorta.
Cable managing the side that has glass looks 200 times better, the back side however, can look messy and it wont bother me

[lament fulcrum]

im talking about in the front

[stoic island]

Generally the only dust you should need to clean off are on the fans.

@lament fulcrum Yes, the only places messy cables block you from cleaning is the back of the case

[still roost]

necropsi#2251 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stoic island]

:P

[lament fulcrum]

frick the back*

[stoic island]

So it's not easier to clean the dust out

Just compressed air the fans and you're still done

[lament fulcrum]

if you got all the cables in the front and in the way yes it is

[brittle tinsel]

my brothers case has an open front, we have to blow it out with canned air around every 3-5 days, and it looks like a dust storm in dubai

[stoic island]

Oh fun, that's why you get cases with dust filters xD

[lament fulcrum]

its funny i have a dust filter on the front and the side and i still somehow get lots of dust

[brittle tinsel]

prebuilt, they sent the wrong case because of covid stock issues

[stoic island]

Prob negative pressure

[brittle tinsel]

bastards

[lament fulcrum]

and im in a 1 room barracks

3 intake 3 exhaust

[stoic island]

Try taking one or two of the exhausts out

[lament fulcrum]

ill prob end up disconnecting the front fan down the road

[stoic island]

Less succing in through weird places

[lament fulcrum]

you mean intake

[stoic island]

No

[lament fulcrum]

intake creates neg pressure

[stoic island]

More exhaust = Negative pressure = Air being pulled through weird places, like PCIe bracket

[lament fulcrum]

oh wait

[still roost]

necropsi#2251 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

necropsi#2251 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[stoic island]

uh

rip

[lament fulcrum]

wow

i cant say anything here

yeah u right tho

[brittle tinsel]

stop trying to use bad words lmfao

[lament fulcrum]

rear fan or top fans

1 of*

ill probably take out rear fan

[brittle tinsel]

does msi light sync with razer chroma

mystic light, i think its called or whatever

[rich helm]

rgb softwares hate each other, but sometimes they do work. Also maybe consider trying some open source rgb software that worked with mystic light for me just not icue so I didn’t use it

[brittle tinsel]

as much as it would be cool to have, I think im just gonna avoid an rgb build, cheaper anyhow

without the headache

[potent portal]

Openrgb works but it can be dangerous. People have bricked their rgb using it. They straight disabled the code to read MSI motherboards, and asus too I think, because of that.
I've had a lot of success getting things to sync in mystic light (dragon center) as long as they're designed to work with it.

[brittle tinsel]

ill just build a non RGB and put a couple of razer compat rgb strips on the inside edge, problem solved

or may even just leave it a clean black look

[potent portal]

There you go, can't go wrong with strips

[rich helm]

Just do a black and silver build

[brittle tinsel]

nah

[rich helm]

Arctic freezer AIO and some silver ram

Mm

[brittle tinsel]

I wanted to do black and green but cant find anything green

[rich helm]

Yeah you won’t find any green stuff

[brittle tinsel]

well atleast a decent green color

[rich helm]

You would need rgbs for that

[rich helm]

I want to build a stealth pc but I still need to finish other PCs and then find someone who wants one lol

[brittle tinsel]

wow, 8gb ddr4-3600 sticks are sold out???

I should clarify its the ballistix ram

[muted patio]

No? https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164173?Description=ballistix 36000&cm_re=ballistix_36000-_-20-164-173-_-Product

[brittle tinsel]

wtf? I swear newegg and crucials site were both out of stock

now its not????

[spark rose]

Hi, first time logger, long time admirer. Does anyone know about chasis fan adapters? I purchased https://www.newegg.com/asrock-b450m-ac-r2-0/p/N82E16813157974?Item=N82E16813157974 this morning. I was wondering if the cooler connection on the mobo is also a fan connection? And if it is, that still only leaves me with two fan connections of which I think I need four. I don't have any experience with fan adapters and I am afraid of getting the wrong one. Can anyone help?

[muted patio]

Get fan splitter cables

CPU fan will take one header

[brittle tinsel]

yo vintage, do you know anything about 30 series dlss?

[muted patio]

Like these https://www.amazon.com/Splitter-Computer-Extension-Converter-TeamProfitcom/dp/B07F8LV1BY/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=fan+splitter&qid=1614785250&sr=8-2

[muted patio]

WOrks great where DLSS is supported

[spark rose]

Thanks Vintage, I will check those out now.

[brittle tinsel]

do you need ray trace on to use it or no?

[muted patio]

Depends on the game

[brittle tinsel]

ah ok

[muted patio]

That is all built into the game as to what it supports

[brittle tinsel]

what does it do? lower graphics for higher fps

[muted patio]

Some games are DLSS only so yes, it's possible

No, it upscales the image

[brittle tinsel]

and gives better performance?

[muted patio]

"Deep learning super sampling uses artificial intelligence and machine learning to produce an image that looks like a higher-resolution image, without the rendering overhead. Nvidia’s algorithm learns from tens of thousands of rendered sequences of images that were created using a supercomputer. That trains the algorithm to be able to produce similarly beautiful images, but without requiring the graphics card to work as hard to do it."

Yes, better performance

[brittle tinsel]

so the 3080 is an all around good card minus the lack of stocl

[muted patio]

Good 4K card ye

For 1080p, you're better off with 3060TI or 3070

[rich helm]

Can 3060ti get acceptable frame rates in 4K or no?

On forza h4 specifically

[muted patio]

Gonna depend on the game

SOmewhere between 40-60 FPS at 4k

Ultra

[rich helm]

Website says gets 100 FPS at ultra in forza so idk

Tom’s hardware

[spark rose]

I'm going to oc a ryzen 5 3400g as well as the ram. My question is, since there isn't a graphics card taking up space in my matx case, would four fans and the wraith cooler be sufficient cooling?

[rich helm]

4 fans is definitely enough

[muted patio]

IDK, I just checked some other games.

[earnest olive]

the ryzen 5 3400g barely generates heat

stock cooler + 1 exhaust fan is enough to oc the crap out of it

[feral cape]

it depends on the cpu too so yeah

[earnest olive]

source: have done that

nah

[rich helm]

10600k so I think I’m fine

[earnest olive]

at 4k with a 3060ti you will be entirely gpu bound unless you have something really garbage

like an i3-2130 lol

[rich helm]

Want to play forza on my tv but I would have to unplug everything and move computer to other room :/

[brittle tinsel]

my honest opinion, 4k isnt worth it, its the same as a damn 1080p

[spark rose]

Thank you. Y'all are great! 🙂

[brittle tinsel]

but Im also completely blind in one eye, so I cant see depth or 3d or anything like that

[earnest olive]

idk I can notice the difference between 1080p and 1440p easily

but 1440p vs 4k is not that big of a deal

would rather have more frames

I like 1440p as the sweet spot

I love my 1440p165 monitor

[small osprey]

m27q

[earnest olive]

g27qc

[small osprey]

ah

[stoic island]

M27q great tho

[fossil halo]

wow

i have

75hz 1080p

[lament fulcrum]

Vg27aq godly

M27q > g27qc

[earnest olive]

3060ti for 1080p75?

I like curved monitors

[small osprey]

3060ti can probably do 1440p144hz right

[earnest olive]

depends on game but most games you'd have to drop settings

my 3080 has to drop settings to do that in games from 2019

[rich helm]

Cant wait to buy my m27q

[small osprey]

hm ok

[lament fulcrum]

Yeah 2060s is 1440p card so 3060ti def a 1440p card

[small osprey]

3070 supposed to be 1440p card

[stoic island]

eh

[small osprey]

but 3070 vs 3060ti not that much perf drop

[earnest olive]

1440p 60+ fps should be doable in the newest titles on a 3060ti

[stoic island]

2060s is not a great 1440p experience

[earnest olive]

144 will be difficult

[small osprey]

well, a 2080s can do 1440p

[lament fulcrum]

Not on triple a maxxed out

[small osprey]

so a 3060ti can too

[earnest olive]

my 3080 only gets like 85 fps in valhalla at 1440p high lol

[lament fulcrum]

But a lot of other games itll be fine

[rich helm]

On a side note: new super hot game is really fun

[earnest olive]

but it can do 180 fps in cold war at 1440p ultra with no dlss

[small osprey]

why no dlss lmao

[earnest olive]

no difference between on and off

cpu bottleneck there

[stoic island]

2060s at 1440p isn't a card for aaa games at all imo

[small osprey]

ah

3600x do be a bottleneck

[stoic island]

it'd be like a <60fps experience afaik

[earnest olive]

not a meaningful bottleneck if it's at 180 fps lol

[small osprey]

true

[earnest olive]

turning on rtx slams the fps to half and barely makes the game look better at all

[small osprey]

oh what's the best 1080p monitor

[rich helm]

Besides Minecraft

[small osprey]

for a secondary

[lament fulcrum]

Nah

[earnest olive]

well yes I'm talking about cold war

[lament fulcrum]

So 5700xt is only slightly better than 2060s and most games i play i get at least 100-110 frames

[earnest olive]

minecraft looks incredible with rtx

[rich helm]

Thought it said “barely makes games look better”

Yeah

[lament fulcrum]

@1440p

[earnest olive]

it depends on game and settings

[rich helm]

Trying to use continuum and stratum but I need to search up optimal settings

[earnest olive]

2060 super can do 1440p60 but you'll usually have to drop settings unless it's older games

[pine stone]

Is this one work with intel I5 10600k? And with a b560m?

[earnest olive]

yes

[rich helm]

Maybe consider 3060ti founders or one of the cheaper 3060tis as it will have better performance

[earnest olive]

for video cards the only compatibility you need to worry about is whether you have enough power and whether it fits in the case

motherboard and cpu is irrelevant unless you have one from 2008

actually I think pci express started showing up before 2008 even

[pine stone]

No I’m building one for first time and I’m missing so many parts couldn’t find them anywhere

[earnest olive]

a pcie 4.0 gpu will technically run on a pcie 1.1 slot without issue

it will run like crap but at that point the cpu is going to be a bigger problem than the pcie bandwidth

$520 + tax is pretty bad for a 3060

[pine stone]

Bro I have literally no idea what are you saying

[earnest olive]

you can find a used 2070 super for similar price on r/hardwareswap if you check regularly

[rich helm]

Yeah I got my 3060ti 400 + tax

[earnest olive]

and it wins by like 10%

[earnest olive]

.

the rtx 3060 will work with whatever cpu and motherboard as long as it's not so old it has agp slots

[rich helm]

TLDR: yes it works, try for a cheaper 3060ti or 3060 as 520 + tax is really expensive

[earnest olive]

the 3060 is basically a 2060 super

the extra vram means nothing

[pine stone]

What’s the original price of this?3060 ti?

[small osprey]

3060ti is slightly slightly better than 2080s i think

[stoic island]

400$ 3060ti

[rich helm]

No founders edition for 3060 but msrp 330, 3060ti 400

[earnest olive]

yeah but 3060ti is like 30% better than 3060 @small osprey

[pine stone]

It’s shows 519$ on new egg

[rich helm]

Depends on model

[small osprey]

thats pretty good for an extra $70

[muted patio]

FOunders is only at Best Buy for $400

[earnest olive]

the gap between 3060 and 3060ti is similar to the gap between 3060ti and 3080

[rich helm]

@pine stone

Will be like 30% better than that $520 3060

[pine stone]

What about Asus Geforce RTX 3060TI

[earnest olive]

it'll be more expensive

[rich helm]

Asus ones are going to a lot over 400 but yes still better

[earnest olive]

but in this market

you take what you can get

model/brand doesn't matter

[pine stone]

Better then nvidia?

[rich helm]

Unless you can only afford founders lol

[stoic island]

no

[rich helm]

Nvidia is the actual chipmaker, all cards have the same gpu, cooler is the only thing different

The picture I posted is the one nvidia released themselves

[stoic island]

@pine stone basically all different models are about the same performance

like 2% variance in performance kind of thing

[pine stone]

So which one I should choose?

[earnest olive]

founders is usually a bit behind the partner models due to power limits

[stoic island]

Can't just say "PARTNER MODELS BETTER" but yea

FE too nice price wise

[rich helm]

The ones that fit in budget

[earnest olive]

and nvidia has apparently made it a huge pain to bios flash FE cards this gen

[pine stone]

What’s your opinion?

Like according to you

[stoic island]

really? I haven't heard about that @earnest olive

[earnest olive]

lol buy what you can it took me 3 months of monitoring all day every day to find a 3080 in stock

[rich helm]

Will be hard to get any of them, so if there’s like 4 different different cards that fit in your budget, I would try to get any of those

[small osprey]

or you can get a 3070 from dallas

[earnest olive]

it wasn't my first choice model but I went for it regardless

[rich helm]

Took me months to get mine

I got the one I posted picture of

[pine stone]

?

[earnest olive]

we just said

xd

[small osprey]

take

any

card

that you can get

[earnest olive]

instructions unclear

jammed holographic charizard card into my pcie slot

😳

[pine stone]

Sorry missed

I missed

[earnest olive]

now my pc is a pokemon master

[small osprey]

lmao

[pine stone]

Building a pc not that easy bruh I’m realizing this now

[stoic island]

@earnest olive anyways what did you mean by making it harder to flash the vBios this gen?

@pine stone building isn't hard, choosing and buying parts are hard

[earnest olive]

you have to do a different procedure than other cards

[stoic island]

Hm

[earnest olive]

bro

[pine stone]

Yea that’s what I meant

[stoic island]

I thought you could use the nvflash or whatever it was called, there was a software tool

[earnest olive]

my friend chose a 360mm aio for his first build

[pine stone]

I have everything except that gpu

[earnest olive]

everything else easy peasy but the aio is making him cry

[stoic island]

Lol

[small osprey]

what's hard about the aio?

[earnest olive]

managing that many cables is hard for a first timer hahaha

[stoic island]

@earnest olive is it the "needing 3 hands" freezer ii installation?

[lament fulcrum]

Buying parts are the hardest part honestly not in terms of now but like last year you have so many options and then you see something better for a little more and its hard not to readjust your budget

[earnest olive]

yeah right now his problem is he is too short to be able to hold in the backplate while he installs standoffs

[stoic island]

Ah rip

[earnest olive]

so he needs to wait for family to come help him

[stoic island]

Tape time

[earnest olive]

I started my pc with a $1000 budget

now I've spent $400 just on decorations

[rich helm]

It’s not that hard to build getting parts is hard

[earnest olive]

I just put a $70 monitor inside my pc lol

[pine stone]

Yeah

[stoic island]

Fun

[rich helm]

First time working with an AIO made me mad

It didn’t fit in the top :/

Had to front mount

[small osprey]

that 7" monitor was $70??

[earnest olive]

a 360 aio adds like 12 cables to manage

air cooler 1-2

yeah

[small osprey]

jeez

[earnest olive]

$70 is pretty cheap for a good 7" ips

[stoic island]

Eh, it's less if you just daisy chain the fans

[earnest olive]

some others were $80-90

[pine stone]

Bruh these are expensive

[small osprey]

yea daisy chain fans

[stoic island]

@pine stone not freezer ii at msrp

[earnest olive]

not really it was $90

[rich helm]

I only had 240 mm

[earnest olive]

he has a 10600k

[stoic island]

Or id cooling AIOs

[earnest olive]

id-cooling aios are kinda wack tho ngl

their perf is worse than you would expect from aio at their size

[small osprey]

wait how are there 12 cables tho lmao

[rich helm]

AIOs are overrated IMO just get dark rock pro 4

[stoic island]

Oh well

[small osprey]

its like 5-6

or smth

[rich helm]

Hard to get a overclock on my 10600k on 240 mm aio

[stoic island]

It's true that you need a better pump for larger rads or they won't work too well

[pine stone]

?

[small osprey]

silicon lottery

[stoic island]

Id cooling AIOs aren't good performance wise, just cheap

[rich helm]

I can get stable one but runs at 100 c at load

[earnest olive]

2/fan x 3 fans = 6
+1 pump = 7
+1 pump rgb = 8
his has a hub so +1 sata power = 9
so I guess 9

[stoic island]

Wait wait wait

[earnest olive]

I spat out a random number without thinking much

[stoic island]

@earnest olive why are there 2 per fan

Rgb?

[rich helm]

Yes

[earnest olive]

fan power and argb

[stoic island]

Oh

Smh

[small osprey]

ah that makes more sense

[lament fulcrum]

Icue nexus is 99$

[stoic island]

Freezer ii ftw

[small osprey]

^^

no rgb

[stoic island]

@lament fulcrum freezer ii 240mm is 99$

[lament fulcrum]

So not bad for full 7"

[stoic island]

So

[earnest olive]

it was $90 for his 360mm aio

[lament fulcrum]

Im talking about screen

[small osprey]

freezer ii is like 2 fan cables, 1 pump cable

and thats pretty much it

[stoic island]

Ikr

[small osprey]

only 3 cables

2 if you daisy chain fans

[earnest olive]

yeah but I have an addiction to white rgb

[stoic island]

I think just 1 fan cable, I thought it was daisy chained and plugs into the sleeved cable?

[earnest olive]

I'm pretty sure my rgb is using 30 watts

[stoic island]

Lol

[small osprey]

those words dont go together

[earnest olive]

ssenti have you seen my pc

[small osprey]

yes i have

it looks very nice

[lament fulcrum]

Rgb makes white

[small osprey]

but how is white rgb

[earnest olive]

well

[lament fulcrum]

So yeah they do

[earnest olive]

white is a combination of all colors at maximum intensity

so

technically, white is the most rgb you can possibly get

[small osprey]

technically, sure

i want white floodlights too lmao

just buy some rgb strips smh

[earnest olive]

yeah I have like

[lament fulcrum]

Rgb for your house 😂

[earnest olive]

10 ft of diffused white rgb strips

[small osprey]

lmao

[earnest olive]

inside pc

[stoic island]

Lol

[earnest olive]

consuming 19.2W

[small osprey]

the thing is, will it look weird to have white floodlights with pure black fans

i want ll120s lmaoo

[lament fulcrum]

Itd be weird to have floodlights in a pc

[earnest olive]

good thing I have 8 argb fans then

[small osprey]

xD

[earnest olive]

nah

[lament fulcrum]

I feel like they'd cause too much heat

[earnest olive]

I really look white floodlights look

heat isn't an issue

[lament fulcrum]

For a floodlight?

[earnest olive]

my cpu hits like 40C in games

and gpu 65C

[small osprey]

360mm aio

pog

[earnest olive]

with 20% fan speed for cpu and 50% fan speed for gpu

[prime plover]

mmmmmmmm how are we doing

[lament fulcrum]

How can you even fit a floodlight in a pc

[earnest olive]

it's just rgb strips all around the borders lol

[small osprey]

20% fan speed what

[earnest olive]

yeah

it's a ryzen 5

lol

[small osprey]

well 3600x probably dont generate too much heat

[earnest olive]

hits 70C in prime95 with 40% fan speed

[small osprey]

im assuming your pump speed is 100%

[earnest olive]

no

well in p95 yes

but in gaming no

[small osprey]

hm

that aio is pretty good then

what rgb strips do you have sips

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MqBTwP/computer-magnetic-led-strip-super-strong-magnet-easy-to-be-fixed-on-pc-case-high-brightness-2pcs-15inch-rgb-led-strip-light-with-pu-tube-include-extension-cable-for-asus-aura-rgb-sync-motherboard

very nice rgb strips i've used them in many customer builds

good customer support too

i had the ones in my own rig start flickering and they instantly sent a free replacement no questions asked

[small osprey]

damn

nice

time to add to my list

[earnest olive]

turns out it wasn't even broken

the rgb connector came loose LOL

[small osprey]

LMAO

[earnest olive]

but yeah they are really cheap and really good

[small osprey]

you just got free rgb strips

[earnest olive]

diffused and has strong magnets

i didn't even pay for the original

my friend bought them for me for helping her with her homework

[small osprey]

wow

$16 for homework

lmao

[earnest olive]

yeah it was a python project

took me like 40 minutes

[small osprey]

ah

that makes sense

what fans do you have again

[earnest olive]

id-cooling xf-12025-argb

[small osprey]

i would buy arctic p12s, but they're all black

[earnest olive]

the same brand also makes 5v argb strips

[small osprey]

are the fans fluid dynamic

[earnest olive]

i initially bought these 12v strips because my old board only supported 12v rgb

what does that even mean

[small osprey]

the bearing

[earnest olive]

it says hydraulic bearing

they are really good quiet fans

i replaced my td500 mesh's stock fans with them

the bearings don't make any noise unlike the stock fans

the td500 mesh stock fans were the loudest things in my system even at 30% fan speed

louder than gpu fan

ok i gotta do work now bye

[small osprey]

bye

[thorny tusk]

When the chat dead cause it's all over priced

[wanton cliff]

hm?

[balmy patio]

eh

[fossil halo]

yea

[wanton cliff]

@thorny tusk what?

[balmy patio]

yea

[fossil halo]

6700xt 479?

dangit

[thorny tusk]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

what do you mean

[uncut pelican]

[thorny tusk]

No what

[fossil halo]

the newegg shuffle is so dogwater

you have to win a lottery

to buy a 3070

for 700$

[uncut pelican]

[thorny tusk]

Exactly

[uncut pelican]

Idk man i got a 3060 for msrp on the shuffle

[muted patio]

Quite a few there today

https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle

[wanton cliff]

I just want that sweet, succulent, Ryzen 9 5900x

[brittle tinsel]

Is it normal for a cpu to hit 100% and freeze when opening an application or browser?

[fossil halo]

that was the first day

now they are selling that same model for 399

[brittle tinsel]

It didn’t do that when I first got it

[fossil halo]

might do that on startup

depending on cpu

[wanton cliff]

for less than half a second, yeah

[brittle tinsel]

Noooo

Way longer

[fossil halo]

what cpu

[brittle tinsel]

Like 15-20 seconds

I5 3570

[wanton cliff]

oh

[fossil halo]

oh taht makes sense

yea i think thats normal

[wanton cliff]

kek

[fossil halo]

for such an old chip

[brittle tinsel]

Never did that at first however the rig has been used non stop for 4 years

[wanton cliff]

old cpu is old

[fossil halo]

yea

i had a i5 7200u

it was so bad

idled at 40%

wth

i mean my cpu is never more than like

25% usage

[wanton cliff]

my ex has a Pentium N3710

[fossil halo]

even when gaming KEK

[wanton cliff]

cant even run flash games

[fossil halo]

chad moves

pair that with rtx 3090

or a quadro rtx

[brittle tinsel]

I idle at around 60% with spikes of 90-100

But that is with discord and 2 chrome tabs open

[sullen spoke]

must be nice

[fossil halo]

i idle at like

10% i think

with normal apps open

[wanton cliff]

I idle at 4% on this 4700u

also is this server being slow again?

[fossil halo]

~15% cpu and ~50% gpu

nah its p snappy for me

well its prob taht way bc im in a zoom meeting watching my teachers stream rn

oh sorry server is being rather slow

ok its kinda rng

[wanton cliff]

im connected to a 4k TV as well rn

because why not

[balmy patio]

connected to tv in class smh

[fossil halo]

class is so boring rn

[wanton cliff]

wednesdays are days without teachers, just assignments

[fossil halo]

they are talking about well being and happiness

[fossil halo]

yea same

[balmy patio]

bruh i have 6 hrs everyday smh

not counting the time i spend doing hw

[wanton cliff]

tfw only 8 logical processors

[fossil halo]

imagine

[fossil halo]

f

i mean ur desktop cpu is pretty damn beefy

[wanton cliff]

3800x

8c 16t running at 3.9ghz base 4.5 boost

[fossil halo]

i run at ~4.2 ghz on my 3700x

according to task manager

why is my ram usage so high

[wanton cliff]

I am getting the 5900x probably

[fossil halo]

oh right

i have like

[wanton cliff]

did you debloat windows?

[fossil halo]

wdym

[wanton cliff]

i mean

did you debloat windows

[fossil halo]

idk what that means

like uninstall the bloatware?

or that makes sense

sorted by highest memory usage

i should actually uninstall cam

[muted patio]

MS Edge

[fossil halo]

i dont even use it

[muted patio]

ALl that ram used lol

[fossil halo]

yea

i have like 3 windows with like 20 tabs each tho

not healthy

wait @wanton cliff send new 3070 build in build pics

have u already?

[wanton cliff]

i dont know

I will when I have my phone back and when I replaced my side panel

[fossil halo]

ah i see

what happened to ur phone

[wanton cliff]

parents

you know how it goes

[fossil halo]

oh lmao

true

i swear my mom just sometime walks into my room takes my phone and just dips LMFAO

gives it to me like the next day idek why LOL

[little osprey]

rip kids xd

[fossil halo]

lmfao

like ok the other day i finished my whole bio assignment like everything, but my literal -0iq ass forgot to press the submit button

and i realized after the due date so then it became late

[wanton cliff]

Canvas?

[fossil halo]

nah schoology

[mortal garnet]

gg

[fossil halo]

so then my grade dropped from a 95 to a 89

and literally

[little osprey]

rip xd

[fossil halo]

as soon as my mom heard that happened

I KNOW IT ITS THE PHONE AND THE DISCORD AND ALL THOSE KIDS WHO YOU TALK ONLINE

[little osprey]

lmao

[fossil halo]

so i was just thinking like

when my parents were young living in like rural india

[mortal garnet]

tiger parents are not cool

[fossil halo]

what did their parents say when they made dumb mistakes

[wanton cliff]

[little osprey]

idk im motherless child lol

[balmy patio]

canvas smh

[fossil halo]

schoology is kinda dogwater

so is google classroom

idk about canvas

[wanton cliff]

canvas is big gay

[fossil halo]

LMFAO

[mortal garnet]

my hs only used google classroom

but my college uses ilearn

[fossil halo]

imagine

schoology is the big gae actually tho

[wanton cliff]

thats the name of a standardized test in my state lmao

[fossil halo]

LOL

[balmy patio]

if only ya'll knew what caasp sounds are

[fossil halo]

whats that

[balmy patio]

the state tests

for ca

[wanton cliff]

someone who is good at math, solve this for me

[mortal garnet]

i forgot about caasp lmao

[balmy patio]

there's this thing where you have to test sound

[mortal garnet]

its been so long since i last took one

[fossil halo]

imagine

[mortal garnet]

covid ruined my sense of time

[balmy patio]

and istfg everyone unplugs their headphones and plays it at 0.5x

[fossil halo]

2x+6y=18

x+y=7

i never took caasp?

[wanton cliff]

listen to the first 3 lines of this song please