building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

But people spend their money, their choice

if they ask me to make em a build for 6 3090s, i just do it.

[sharp tundra]

Server box life

[little osprey]

Basically my recommendations for good list

Avoid NZXT
Avoid bomb PSU's
Avoid seagate
Avoid certain cases, even lian li cases can get hot
make sure you don't undercut your psu

[scenic turret]

Lian Li cases get hot if you mess up the air flow

[little osprey]

^

[sharp tundra]

Like when people put all exhaust fans on an o11d

Idiots

[little osprey]

i've always much rather take a 4000D then a lian li tbh

just cause front mesh tbh

Just suprised there is even a market for cases with no airflow lol

[sharp tundra]

I have a 4000D, and for the longest time that was the case I wanted to build in, but then I seen the o11d

[little osprey]

i'll give lian li this

o11d looks good

but airflow looks attrocious

just like NZXT

[scenic turret]

Was about to get the O11D mini for another build

[little osprey]

some lian li is good

[sharp tundra]

If you do it right

[little osprey]

p500a is good

[sharp tundra]

You'll have no issues

[little osprey]

Eh if cram a 3090 in there.

it will def get hot lolk

lol

[scenic turret]

Lancool Mesh 2 is good

[little osprey]

I can see O11D for liquid cooling

[sharp tundra]

Well let's be honest, people who buy an o11d don't put stock gpus in there

[little osprey]

but not air

[sharp tundra]

Most likely its water cooled

[little osprey]

[scenic turret]

Have you not seen Tik Tok or other builds lol

[wanton cliff]

Ew, 2080Ti gronsk

[little osprey]

lmao is that a quadro

wait

[scenic turret]

The weirdest ones are 1660tis vertically mounting in a O11

[sharp tundra]

Ew

Why

[little osprey]

Imma be honest

[wanton cliff]

What’s a good case for vertical mounting?

[little osprey]

either Lian Li o11d

or 5000D

for water cooling

[sharp tundra]

4000d

[scenic turret]

P500A as well

[little osprey]

5000D is so roomy and airflow is good also

[wanton cliff]

P500a good for vertical mounting?

[little osprey]

You can fit plenty of tubing

[little osprey]

You ever sold your P-GM?

[scenic turret]

You could

[little osprey]

lmao

did that bracket break

i see tape

[scenic turret]

Not my pic lol

[wanton cliff]

Not yet, but I’ll put it up on eBay eventually

[scenic turret]

Just found it

[little osprey]

lol

[little osprey]

so basically

your selling a bomb to someone

[wanton cliff]

Yep

[little osprey]

Oh god

[wanton cliff]

Hope they do their homework and don’t just buy an old 750w PSU

[little osprey]

just wait till they realize.

This totally aint sus

[wanton cliff]

There are two different ship types in No Man’s Sky based on ships in Cowboy Bebop

[sharp tundra]

I love when people very mount with stock coolers

Just blowin that hot air right up against the glass

[little osprey]

Urgh thanks for reminding me i need to keep saving up for an aio

[sharp tundra]

You're welcome?

[little osprey]

Thats gonna be fun

expensive

[sharp tundra]

Yeah it is

[little osprey]

Note to self

[sharp tundra]

I'm buying an Aorus Xtreme Waterforce

[little osprey]

never buy a 212 again

[scenic turret]

Tempted to buy an Arctic 360 aio, but unnecessary for my 5600x

[little osprey]

Im so tempted to buy a 280mm freezer

[wanton cliff]

The only decent Aorus product

[hollow grail]

get that subambient

[little osprey]

I have LPX ram anyway

[hollow grail]

even then

[little osprey]

so no worries about clearance

[scenic turret]

..........maybe I will

[little osprey]

Wonder how much custom loop is

[hollow grail]

dewit

[wanton cliff]

Can water even go subambient?

[sharp tundra]

Expensive

[little osprey]

since i can't buy an aio to mount on back of gpu

[scenic turret]

My friend has an extra 360 since he bought two. I might get it off him for $50 off

[little osprey]

and i don't trust modding my card like this

[sharp tundra]

🤮

[little osprey]

or this

just an aio sounds nice

to get better clocks

[sharp tundra]

People actually do this?

[little osprey]

yeah.

[scenic turret]

Rather custom water loop

[little osprey]

You achieve better clocks.

[sharp tundra]

That looks disgusting

[little osprey]

Overclocking is not about looks

its about how much you can push out of a card.

[scenic turret]

I rather softline loop than attach an AIO

[wanton cliff]

I would totally get a PNY card and put a custom loop on it if there was actually stock right now

[lyric thistle]

I kinda want to put a tower cooler on a card

[sharp tundra]

Yeah, I know, but do people do this even when they're not?

[little osprey]

no...

nobody in their right mind would do this when not overclocking

[hollow grail]

[scenic turret]

I literally just saw shipping information for a container of PNY 3090s coming into Toronto the other day

[little osprey]

there are kits for them iirc

[little osprey]

gimme gimme gimme

College is useless

[sharp tundra]

I just mean AIO gpus, not the whole bench set up

[little osprey]

yeah aio gpu's exist

[lyric thistle]

Hybrid cooling

[little osprey]

basically just DIYING sometimes

[little osprey]

if the aio fits to screw on

it will work

but they don't make em for 3070

Be nice to achieve those clocks

[sharp tundra]

3070 already has fast clocks

[little osprey]

but you could push em to faster.

[scenic turret]

3090/3080 seem reasonable for aio. 3070 doesn't really need it.

[little osprey]

I Paid for those clocks, i get those clocks

[sharp tundra]

Like its faster than 3090 fast

Just that huge lack of vram

[scenic turret]

AIOs on 3080s/3090s are for the higher end niche

[little osprey]

and even a small clock boost would be nice on blender lol

[hollow grail]

tfw dread doesnt change name to lili simp

[lyric thistle]

Lili simp 😳

[little osprey]

[hollow grail]

change name if u simp for me

[desert gulch]

noobdy changes name

[sharp tundra]

I changed my mind on gpu

I'm waiting for 3090ti

[lyric thistle]

Bruh momento

[viral ore]

bruh

[little osprey]

SMH

its 3090 ti ti

ti ti means double double vram

24gb vram 3090

[scenic turret]

When I switch over to the 3080ti (when it comes out), I was thinking of putting my 3070FE in a nice frame with a bronze plate stating the conditions of Covid-19 and stock issues occuring in 2020-2021. Literally going to keep it for years that way

[little osprey]

ti means 48

[sharp tundra]

Oh

[little osprey]

i thought it would have been called 3090 super

ti means 48x2

[hollow grail]

[little osprey]

so 3090 96gb vram

[sharp tundra]

3090 super ti quadro

[little osprey]

Nah

they only use TI TI

SMH

[fossil halo]

wow lili is lili simp literal simp inception

[hollow grail]

as long as u simp for yourself it doesnt natter who else does

life lesson

[hollow grail]

see above comment

[fossil halo]

im actually watching inception right now

and yes

that is a good lesson

true actually

[little osprey]

Everyone change their name to lili simp and then just head to general lol

[sharp tundra]

Is it weird if you simp for Anime girls?

[fossil halo]

im down

[sharp tundra]

ACTUALLY asking for a friend

[fossil halo]

no

[hollow grail]

not rly

[fossil halo]

its not weird

[scenic turret]

Nah that's normal lol

[little osprey]

i mean they are hot

[hollow grail]

its good to simp 2d girls cause they cant take ur money

[little osprey]

sometimes

[sharp tundra]

Ight then

[scenic turret]

2D > 3D is normal

[fossil halo]

i mean arent anime girls created to make u simp for them

[hollow grail]

unless they from a gacha

[sharp tundra]

So

[scenic turret]

Instant cringe

[little osprey]

breh

Someone come to #general-chat and back up my argument

[fossil halo]

perfect proportions and what not 😏

[little osprey]

Tomie said they hate bean

[sharp tundra]

Anyome heard of CodeMiko?

[little osprey]

[lyric thistle]

They can't?

[hollow grail]

unless they from a gacha

then they drain ur wallet

[scenic turret]

Cruncyroll requires money

[lyric thistle]

I'm sure there's more exceptions

[hollow grail]

[hollow grail]

technically im 2d since ur display is 2d

[sharp tundra]

I have a 3d display

[lyric thistle]

[scenic turret]

Damn caught us there

[little osprey]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[hollow grail]

pain

[little osprey]

Nobody understands TI TI

SMH

How many times do i need to say it

3070 ti=16gb

[sharp tundra]

Titty, yeah we get it

[little osprey]

8 vram x2

then ti ti is x2

32gb vram

[hollow grail]

[fossil halo]

lmao

[sharp tundra]

3090 titi

[little osprey]

I hope your o11d burns

[fossil halo]

LFMAO

[little osprey]

[fossil halo]

LMAOOOOOOO

[sharp tundra]

Lol

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-in-hell-elmo-fire-flame-gif-8764555

see you in fire pits

o11d

lul

[sharp tundra]

If it does burn, the integrated fire suppression system will put it out

[little osprey]

God damn it

[sharp tundra]

Aka, water loop

[hollow grail]

pogging hard

[scenic turret]

Yeee

[hollow grail]

china cdn vs canadian cdn

[scenic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/water-watercooling-fail-blue-dye-blue-water-gif-19095835

Best gif

[little osprey]

that actually hurts

[sharp tundra]

That hurt

[lyric thistle]

Gatorade cooled pc

[sharp tundra]

Bug time

[hollow grail]

they deserve it for using powerade as coolant

[little osprey]

3090 TI TI

[little osprey]

you sure its not

Blue crab juice

[muted patio]

That's what happens when you leave a seal out

[scenic turret]

https://tenor.com/view/bestbuy-3080-rtx-nvidia-rtx3080-gif-18910525

[sharp tundra]

But I think what hurts more, is when is he using blue coolant in a black and red build?

[little osprey]

How do you feel about 3070 ti ti?

[scenic turret]

There's gif for this now lmao

[little osprey]

3070 TI TI

3070 =8gb, ti means double vram

32gb 3070

[sharp tundra]

96gb 3090

48k gaming all day

[wanton cliff]

Wait

[little osprey]

yes?

[wanton cliff]

Doesn’t EVGA use the reference PCB?

I don’t think so

Can’t remember

[little osprey]

3090

?

XC3 i think does

[wanton cliff]

Also Idk who was arguing with me about it at one point but EVGA was 100% spelled eVGA at one point

^their website in October 2000

[little osprey]

i found this

[desert gulch]

Bruhh

That thing sucks

[hollow grail]

i have that

[austere vale]

What a beast

[wanton cliff]

What architecture was 700 series on?

[little osprey]

Ferni

or maxwell

[hollow grail]

kepler

lul

[wanton cliff]

Heh

Maxwell was more recent

[hollow grail]

0 for 2

but actually

2 half points dread

[little osprey]

wut

[wanton cliff]

1 for 2

[little osprey]

istg it was maxwell

[hollow grail]

some gt 700 series were fermi

and some later gtx 700 series were maxwell

[little osprey]

Kelper is a hoax

[hollow grail]

but overall kepler is the main answer

[little osprey]

i see no documentation ahhhhhhh

[hollow grail]

tfw techpowerup is the best site for documentation

[gusty abyss]

900 was maxwell wasn't it

thought I remembered that from having one

[wanton cliff]

That’s what I thought

[hollow grail]

yes

[little osprey]

[hot canopy]

Hello ..... Need some help as Im not a gamer and Im building a PC along with my son. He purchased a set of Corsair Veng DDR 3600 RAM to utilize with a ASUS ROG B550F WiFi motherboard. While reading, I believe that the only way to utilize this RAM with the specific mb is by overclocking. Is that a correct assumption? If so, how hard is to overclock a PC? Am I better off buying a different RAM?

[muted patio]

Super easy. Go into the BIOS and on the main screen you'll see XMP or DOCP. It will be disabled initially, just enable it to get the 3600mhz speed

[hot canopy]

Really, thats it ?

[muted patio]

Yes

[wanton cliff]

DOCP standard

[hot canopy]

Well thank you !

[muted patio]

Welcome!

[wanton cliff]

Idk about -50 series board but it’s usually right on the first page

If not, go to advanced settings and then the AI Overclocker, I believe

But it should be on the first page

[uncut pelican]

Gm

[soft arch]

Big fart

#big fart

video game cd eBay

I need to sleep

[jagged ember]

'wait this isn't google' moment

[little osprey]

today - yes, but for example 4/5 years ago?

it was a fine gpu in a reasonable price 🤷

[jagged ember]

I mean charitable explanation dictates that he's talking about it's current value

But you have a valid claim

[brittle tinsel]

for a 5900x and 3080 is 1000w overkill or no?

[worn wave]

850W will do fine

the price difference between 850W and 1000W aint really worth it

[opaque gulch]

Can anyone help me with a GPU upgrade? I have a 1050 TI right now and I just need something better tbh. I tried to get some 30 series cards, but obviously that just impossible

[brittle tinsel]

AIOs, fans and other parts dont also use some of that power?

[small osprey]

850w is enough

[worn wave]

lmao barely much power

[small osprey]

go to best buy and try for a 3060ti fe

[worn wave]

Nvidia recommends a 750W

[opaque gulch]

Like in store or on website

[small osprey]

webstie

site

[opaque gulch]

ok

thank you

[brittle tinsel]

gold rated or should I go higher?

my price range for a psu is anything south of $200

[worn wave]

Gold is fine

[small osprey]

just get a enermax revolution d.f. 850w

[brittle tinsel]

what does the diff ratings affectr?

[brittle tinsel]

is that what you have>

are boot drives worth it?

[small osprey]

not what i have

but its a really good 850w unit

[brittle tinsel]

Ive heard they keep clutter down but some of the games I play like FS19 and others store mods in the C:documents area and it kinda sucks tbh

[small osprey]

what drives do you have rn?

@brittle tinsel

[brittle tinsel]

current pc 2tb hd that is also my boot drive, 500gb ssd wd blue.
when I build the pc im looking at the parts for I will add a 2tb M.2 to the mix

[small osprey]

so you're gonna build a new pc right

[brittle tinsel]

my hdd is always full

[small osprey]

do you have a list already?

[wanton cliff]

tfw HDD is boot drive in 2021

[small osprey]

no.

[wanton cliff]

booting off spinning rust

[brittle tinsel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=4q6pBm

before you say it, yes I know the NZXT Z73 is over priced because the LCD, im well aware

[worn wave]

its not even that amazing of a AIO

[small osprey]

looks pretty good, i would also add a 4tb wd blue drive in there

[worn wave]

your spending more on an AIO than a motherboard

[brittle tinsel]

I know, I know

[worn wave]

If I were you, I would just get a 360 Liquid Freezer and get a higher end motherboard

[brittle tinsel]

I dont want a higher end mobo, there is no need

that one is overkill for me

[worn wave]

There is no need for a high end AIO either

that AIO is overkill for you also

[brittle tinsel]

I wanted the LCD display, what can I say

everyone one has their own opinion, I like green as to some may like red or blue

If we all had the same opinion the world would be boring

[brittle tinsel]

why add a 4tb to the mix?

[small osprey]

bc more storage

[brittle tinsel]

in total I would have 4.5 tb alread

[small osprey]

every 500gb of ssd should be paired with 2tb hdd

i think lili said that

[brittle tinsel]

are they cheap? because 2600 is my budget and as you can tell It went ever so slighly over

[small osprey]

they are pretty cheap

4tb for $86

ish

[brittle tinsel]

wtf is that price range??

[worn wave]

Most likely out of stock so the seller puts some insane price

so people dont try to buy it

its easier than having to relist products

[brittle tinsel]

ig, but then you have someone that buys it, I bet they dont say you overpaid they just send it

[worn wave]

they dont send it becauses its out of stock?

order would just be cancelled

[small osprey]

not that one lmao

[brittle tinsel]

I figured

[small osprey]

the first one in that image

is the right one

[brittle tinsel]

I know, i was just shocked

[jagged ember]

And it's a hybrid

Jesus

[brittle tinsel]

now I bought a 2tb wd blue 3-4 years back and it was $200

[small osprey]

no?

oh the 1.5k one

[jagged ember]

The listing says hybrid

[small osprey]

nvm

[brittle tinsel]

ah that explains the price

[small osprey]

lmao

[jagged ember]

For 1436 dollars lmao

[worn wave]

Like I said its not the right price still

its most likely out of stock

[jagged ember]

Def not the right price

[rich helm]

@brittle tinsel you really need 64 gb of ram

[brittle tinsel]

yes unfortunately I do

[worn wave]

For what

[rich helm]

Oh

[brittle tinsel]

dont become a hobbyist that does everything

[rich helm]

Editing 8k video or something

?

Cause unless it’s something like that

[worn wave]

If you are editing 8k why would you get a 5900X and one 3080

[jagged ember]

Or rendering and cad

[small osprey]

if you're rendering 8k get a 5950x and a 3090 lmao

[worn wave]

Get a HEDT

at that point

[brittle tinsel]

I mean realistically I could probably get away with 32gb, but I just wanted to have extra to expand the life range of the build, 2030 64gb of ram is gonna be = to 2 now adays

[small osprey]

or that yea

tr

xeon

epyc

[brittle tinsel]

I dont render 8k vids

[worn wave]

Theres no good workstation xeons currently

Either too old or not worth it

[brittle tinsel]

video editing is in there, but recently I havent had any customers

[worn wave]

what software for video editing

[rich helm]

Premiere pro gang?

[brittle tinsel]

animotica its a $20 program

[worn wave]

you should use davinci resolve

its free and way better then that

[jagged ember]

Steep curve

Not easy to learn

[brittle tinsel]

Im looking for a good one thats not payment plans like adobe

[worn wave]

it was easy for me

[jagged ember]

But good

How TF did you figure out the animation panels

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys is lower cache better for storage

Or higher

[worn wave]

DaVinci Resolve is free and is amazing, I highly suggest you look at it

[jagged ember]

And the whole like graphical representation for effects

I still have no clue how to do

It is a good tool tho

[brittle tinsel]

I think higher but dont quote me

[rich helm]

Any media production program takes a good amount of time to learn, any time I have to learn hard software I have to buy a udemy course and watch some YouTube videos

[jagged ember]

Just locked to your cpu render for free version

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys what’s better memory than 32 gig 3600 cl16

[brittle tinsel]

Id say thats pretty good

[rich helm]

64 gb 3600 cl16 lol

[scenic turret]

^

Lol

[wicked frigate]

I want an 32

[scenic turret]

Or 3600 CL14

[jagged ember]

64gb 4000mhz cl16

Lmao

[rich helm]

3600 cl14 or 4000 cl 16

[scenic turret]

4000 still have flck inefficiency with Ryzen?

[jagged ember]

Not sure

[wicked frigate]

What about the 64 gig 4000 cl16

[jagged ember]

Man's insane lol

I'd be totally fine with 3600 cl16

[rich helm]

Idk if you want to spend like 500 + dollars on ram

[wicked frigate]

Ohhhhh

[jagged ember]

That should be enough for basically any workload you throw at it

[wicked frigate]

No way

[scenic turret]

I think Trident Z has a 64 3600 CL16 variant

But you're paying a premium

[rich helm]

Too many trident z variants

[wicked frigate]

What about 4000 cl16 32

[small osprey]

but you need b die duh

[jagged ember]

Not worth the price

[rich helm]

You could will cost a good amount more

[scenic turret]

Ok I meant Trident Z Royals lol

[wicked frigate]

So those are the 2 better than 3600cl16

[muted patio]

More bandwidth and faster first word too

[wicked frigate]

I do t think crucial has 4000 cl16

[scenic turret]

Ah yes https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232824
4800mhz 😂💸

[jagged ember]

GoOd

[wicked frigate]

I need 32 cause my cousin and I trading

I have an 32 gig and looking for a better ram than the 32 3600 cl16

[wanton cliff]

not much better than that

not anything worth the upgrade

[stoic island]

32 gig per stick?

[brittle tinsel]

wait? you can move your downloads, documents, and other C drive files to a different drive?

does this work?

[stoic island]

Yes

You can quite easily

[muted patio]

I mean

[brittle tinsel]

wait so what do I need to leave behind so windows stays on the drive

[muted patio]

Easier to just change download locatiln in browser lol

[brittle tinsel]

well I want to move the videos, photos, documents, downloads and desktop folders to my larger hdd instead of having all that clutter my ssd, but dont know what to leave behind so windows boots from the ssd instead of hdd

[worn wave]

You cant move your desktop folder to another drive

[small osprey]

yes you can

[brittle tinsel]

ah, thats fine then

[worn wave]

since when

[small osprey]

always?

https://www.top-password.com/blog/move-desktop-or-document-folder-to-another-drive/

[languid nimbus]

[brittle tinsel]

wait so in that case I could get a 250 boot drive and not have it cluttered at all right?

cause I cant stand this boot time on my current pc, I wake up, hit power, use the bathroom get breakfast, feed the animals and let some out, and Its just getting to the point of updating steam

and I wish I was lying

[stoic island]

What drive?

[brittle tinsel]

currently?

[stoic island]

And yes you technically could, but I feel like there's something you can do to fix the current drive

yea current drive

[muted patio]

Like defrag or something. That doesn't seem right even with a platter drive

[brittle tinsel]

some sort of knock of 2tb drive that came with the prebuilt

[stoic island]

hard drive?

[brittle tinsel]

yes, I later added a 500gb ssd for games like tarkov, siege, rust and others

[muted patio]

Ah, shoulda made that the boot and games on the other one

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel you should be able to clean install the OS onto the 500gb ssd, move whatever you don't need off the hdd, and just formatted the drive to get the os off

[brittle tinsel]

I wanted to but I already had a full hdd and didnt want to lose my files

I have way too much to fit on the ssd

[stoic island]

Maybe get an external HDD?

Something like that, extra storage that you could use later for long term storage or something

[brittle tinsel]

ive got one that used to work for the ps4 then it keeps telling the ps4 its disconnected but its not, dont know if it will work on pc

ive just been dealing with my setup how it is and will worry about all that when I build the new pc

[muted patio]

▶️ 9. No sweepstakes/giveaways, e-begging, trading or selling on this server.

[wanton cliff]

vintage best mod

[stoic island]

ok

[wanton cliff]

because you didnt capitalize it

[small osprey]

vintage is the best techie

naed used to be best but not active much

[stoic island]

Vintage is not techie now, Vintage is the mod assist

Naed still best techie

[muted patio]

Check roles >:/

[small osprey]

vintage is still a techie

[stoic island]

ah

[waxen storm]

@muted patio i dont know if you remember me but you helped me with a problem regarding my case fans

my cpu was at like 62 Celsius last night and the fans still did not come on

they are all plugged in, i dont know what the problem is

[pulsar zodiac]

How do you remove a GPU?

like I've removed the cables, screws and everything

I can't remove it because of the clip

I also can't push down on the clip

@muted patio could you help?

I've done everything but that

I just can't

it's not

hold on

ok hold on

can't

it won't go down

When I push it back in I hear a tiny click

but I can't pull it out

I'm using a pencil with the eraser tip side to push it

should I try wiggling it out?

[little osprey]

did u uncrew it from the case lol

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[little osprey]

to take it out push the tab

[pulsar zodiac]

alright

[pulsar zodiac]

thats the problem, I can't

[little osprey]

screw

driver

smart

non conductive

nice

[wanton cliff]

did you push down retention bracket

oh wait

that was all the way up there lmao

[pulsar zodiac]

I can't

it's like it won't physically come out

[small osprey]

wiggle it

[pulsar zodiac]

I lined it up, pressed it down

[wanton cliff]

^

[small osprey]

and pull kinda hard

[pulsar zodiac]

I need to push down with one hand on the clip

and I need to pull with the other

I can't get the tab out

it won't pop open

[wanton cliff]

pop open???

[pulsar zodiac]

the 2nd tap is perfectly fine

[wanton cliff]

2nd tab?

[pulsar zodiac]

like it won't open

hold on

[wanton cliff]

use a screwdriver

[pulsar zodiac]

I have this GPU

[wanton cliff]

just dont crater the board

[pulsar zodiac]

You see the first tab, at the top?

I'm hitting the mirror thing, closer to the CPU socket

[wanton cliff]

this is what you need to push down

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[wanton cliff]

the retention bracket

[pulsar zodiac]

and when I push down

[wanton cliff]

theres only 1

[pulsar zodiac]

my motherboard starts to bend

yes

[wanton cliff]

you push it down, and pull your GPU out

with a screwdriver if need be

[pulsar zodiac]

alright hold on

it's out now

it exitted unevenly though

[wanton cliff]

so?

is anything broken?

no?

then its fine

[pulsar zodiac]

idk if something is broken or not

hold on

that small pin

[viral ore]

its fine

[pulsar zodiac]

ok

[stable phoenix]

plug it in

[pulsar zodiac]

now time to replace the CMOS battery

[viral ore]

is the component not working?

[stable phoenix]

now

[pulsar zodiac]

no

I need to change it because my PC always went into BIOS

[viral ore]

thats a good thing...

[wanton cliff]

...

[pulsar zodiac]

with windows installed

for 4 months

[viral ore]

then configure the bios?

[wanton cliff]

your boot drive is probably wrong

lmao

[pulsar zodiac]

no

[wanton cliff]

or bios isnt configured

[pulsar zodiac]

everything is configured

[viral ore]

unless the cmos battery isnt holding a change

and the config gets reset

[wanton cliff]

in which case

[pulsar zodiac]

thats what vintage told me

[wanton cliff]

go to gas station

[pulsar zodiac]

it resets

[wanton cliff]

get button battery

[pulsar zodiac]

I have a battery for it

time to replace it

[brittle tinsel]

What’s it mean may need a different cpu to update the bios

[wanton cliff]

which board and CPU is it

@brittle tinsel

[brittle tinsel]

5900x and msi mag b550 tomahawk

[pulsar zodiac]

Reinstalled everything including the new battery

[wanton cliff]

get the Asus TUF B550

negates that warning

[pulsar zodiac]

Well crap

[wanton cliff]

?

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff tomahawk has bios flashback lmao

[pulsar zodiac]

No boot priority

[wanton cliff]

does it?

[pulsar zodiac]

So it wasn’t the battery

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel it'll be fine, ignore Asus, you can use bios flashback

[wanton cliff]

i still dont like msi for boards but i didnt know

[stoic island]

@wanton cliff 99% of msi boards have bios flashback tbh

[wanton cliff]

huh

[stoic island]

It's one of the reasons why I like MSI boards

Every msi b550 board I can think of has bios flashback

[pulsar zodiac]

My motherboard or M.2 might be defective

[brittle tinsel]

Everyone is dogging msi recently but I mean come on what is the difference between scalping and putting your logo on it and charging more

[pulsar zodiac]

Well that’s a rip

[brittle tinsel]

What board is that? I’ve never seen a bios like it

[stoic island]

Looks like asus

[pulsar zodiac]

Asus ROG B550-F

No bootable devices

So it’s my motherboard

[stoic island]

Main problem people have with MSI was their marketing was trying to bribe reviewers to take down bad reviews

[little osprey]

maybe changing boot mode can help

[stoic island]

The scalping bit was just salt upon injury, and why people thought it was a big deal

[pulsar zodiac]

How?

[stoic island]

I still like msi

Decisions of their marketing team doesn't determine anything about their products

[viral ore]

^

[brittle tinsel]

I’ve never used any of them, because I’ve only ever used a prebuilt but I like msi boards

[little osprey]

I love msi boards couse my grandpa is engineer and he took msi board and told it have most reliable components lol

[pulsar zodiac]

How do you change the boot mode?

I’m really bad at software

[viral ore]

what did you install windows on? has windows ever booted?

[pulsar zodiac]

Yes

I’ve used it for 4 months but it kept going into bios

I had to hit the reset button after my PC “warmed up”

[little osprey]

I don't remember where it is at asus board lol look around there you'll find it xd

[viral ore]

so the system was working fine, for a while, then how long ago did this issue first come up

[pulsar zodiac]

Vintage said it was the CMOS battery

[pulsar zodiac]

Since day 1

I asked my friend and he said it would go away in a week and it’s persisted

[viral ore]

how many storage devices does your system have?

[pulsar zodiac]

3

[viral ore]

list them

[little osprey]

does they seen at bios ?

[viral ore]

@little osprey i can handle this

[pulsar zodiac]

Bios sees 2

[pulsar zodiac]

250GB M.2 (windows installed on it)
1000GB M.2 (for games)

[little osprey]

it can be dead 🤔

[pulsar zodiac]

and a 2000GB hard drive for videos

[waxen storm]

My fans aren't plugged into my motherboard and I can't find the cables

[viral ore]

and when you are in windows, all drives are accessible with no issue

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[viral ore]

correct

[waxen storm]

Where can I start to look

[viral ore]

good

when you installed windows, where did you get the files from

[pulsar zodiac]

I'm in bios still since I've replaced the battery

[little osprey]

storage queen jumped in xd

[pulsar zodiac]

My uncle installed it from a disk

[viral ore]

like, a dvd?

[pulsar zodiac]

yeah

[little osprey]

rip

[pulsar zodiac]

dvd to USB

[viral ore]

welp

eww

[pulsar zodiac]

yeah

[little osprey]

imagine using dvd at 2021

[pulsar zodiac]

he said he had windows on a USB and I said "ok"

and he used a DVD

[viral ore]

not using the official media creation tool is definetly what prompted all this lol

[little osprey]

lmao

[viral ore]

so we dont know what mode the installation took place in

[little osprey]

but why its not in bois

[viral ore]

theres still a high probability that it is uefi but who knows

[pulsar zodiac]

my bios only shows my hard drive and M.2

[little osprey]

can you reseat it ?

[viral ore]

the 1tb m.2?

[pulsar zodiac]

the 1TB M.2

yeah

[viral ore]

are they listed in the boot menu?

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[waxen storm]

Is this a cable for my fan

[pulsar zodiac]

the 2 of them

well it's only in storage information

not boot priority

[viral ore]

do they have UEFI: prefixed to their names?

oh

[pulsar zodiac]

no

[viral ore]

but the boot list is empty

right

[pulsar zodiac]

yeah

[viral ore]

so i want you to enable CSM

[little osprey]

maybe changing boot mode can help 🤔

[viral ore]

in the bios, hit F7

[pulsar zodiac]

alright

[viral ore]

then send pic of what you see

because all bioses are annoying and different

[little osprey]

yeah

[pulsar zodiac]

my phone is about to die so imma plug it in

[viral ore]

go over to the boot tab

[little osprey]

I remember it took my 2 hours to boot. my aorus mobo when i first install it lmao

[pulsar zodiac]

Boot configuration
CSM (Compatibility support module)
Secure boot

boot option priorities
boot override

this means it's not accessible

[viral ore]

what is CSM set to

and what is secure boot set to

[pulsar zodiac]

Launch CSM disabled

[viral ore]

enable it

[pulsar zodiac]

hold on

why didn't it send

tf

[viral ore]

a bunch of additional options appeared, right?

once you enabled it

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[viral ore]

is secure boot enabled???

[viral ore]

Boot from storage devices

set to legacy and uefi

[pulsar zodiac]

?

which drop down?

[little osprey]

yeah thats what i told xd

[viral ore]

i just told you?

[little osprey]

if possible all of them 😂

[pulsar zodiac]

Ignore
UEFI only
Legacy only

[viral ore]

wack

legacy it is

[little osprey]

win10 usually using uefi but idk xd

[pulsar zodiac]

change it to legacy

[viral ore]

then save and exit

go into the bios

[pulsar zodiac]

save changes and reset?

[viral ore]

see what devices show up in the boot options

yes

[pulsar zodiac]

alright

one sec

it shows the 250GB storage option

in EZ mode

[viral ore]

always hit F7

dont waste your time in that stupid mode

[pulsar zodiac]

oh damn ok

I'm in advanced again

[viral ore]

good

[pulsar zodiac]

bruh moment

ok now what

[viral ore]

go to exit

[pulsar zodiac]

ye

[viral ore]

take a pic

[pulsar zodiac]

sorry if the images are blurry

my iPhone 7 is crappy

[viral ore]

check the boot tab again

i never know what to expect with all these different, poorly laid out bioses

[viral ore]

ahh thats what i was looking for

[pulsar zodiac]

the first one is the 250GB m.2

[viral ore]

dope

[pulsar zodiac]

do I change the 2nd one to the 250GB m.2

[viral ore]

did the system auto go into the bios, or did you hit the key to get in there

[pulsar zodiac]

I just hit delete like 2 times

[viral ore]

okok

[pulsar zodiac]

and it took a sec to get in

[viral ore]

set the boot option 2 to nothing

[pulsar zodiac]

sure

disabled now

[viral ore]

hot

[pulsar zodiac]

I'm done now?

[viral ore]

save and exit

let it boot

[pulsar zodiac]

save changes and reset?

[viral ore]

yes

[pulsar zodiac]

kk

[desert gulch]

I think f10 does that

[viral ore]

prolly

[pulsar zodiac]

wait is says I've made no changes

[viral ore]

shouldnt matter

[pulsar zodiac]

k

it went into windows

[viral ore]

anyway, your uncles install disk is terrible, tell him to stop using it lol

[pulsar zodiac]

or is going into windows

[viral ore]

it uses legacy and is bad

[pulsar zodiac]

ok now time to test it

I'm going to turn my PC off for 5 minutes

and turn it on

and see if it gets into windows

[viral ore]

ok

[little osprey]

if it not , probably bios battery dead

[pulsar zodiac]

what do you think I've been doing for an hour lol

changed battery

[little osprey]

oh then it should lol

[pulsar zodiac]

thats why I had trouble removing my GPU

[little osprey]

I wasn't here lmao

[pulsar zodiac]

what would happen if you didn't remove the plastic from your M.2

just curious

[little osprey]

heat maybe

Once I installed cpu cooler without removing that plastic lol 😂

[pulsar zodiac]

My friend said he didn't remove his and forgot, and when he went to change out his M.2 it was fine

[desert gulch]

Lol

If it's a 4.0 drive you are screwed

Those things get hottt

But a 3.0 doesn't get near as hot as 4.0

[steel root]

Hi I have a bit of a problem, This is my first time building a pc I think I connected all the cables correctly because after turning on the pc the case fans and gpu and cpu fan were on as well but the motherboard only had a red light and it displayed nothing

[desert gulch]

Ok

Where is hdmi or display port plugged into pc?

Did you plug it into back of graphics card?

[pulsar zodiac]

@viral ore moment of trust

will it go into windows

[little osprey]

million dollar question 😂

[pulsar zodiac]

NO

[desert gulch]

Or you can just post a pic of back of pc if you don't know

[pulsar zodiac]

IT WENT INTO BIOS

OH MY LORD

I'm done

[little osprey]

rip

F

[steel root]

I plugged it in to the hdmi port from the mother board

[desert gulch]

Ok

Plug it into graphics card

[little osprey]

rip

[desert gulch]

If you have one

[little osprey]

😂

[viral ore]

check the boot tab again

[pulsar zodiac]

it doesn't show up

only the 1TB

[little osprey]

@pulsar zodiac see if your bios settings are same or changed

[steel root]

Alright I'll do that in a bit also the motherboard I'm using is an aorus b450

[pulsar zodiac]

bro really

[desert gulch]

Ok

[pulsar zodiac]

hold on

[desert gulch]

It legit won't show signal until you do tho

[pulsar zodiac]

everything is legacy

secure boot OS type is on "other OS"

[desert gulch]

Because all the graphics are run thru the graphics card in your case

[pulsar zodiac]

wait

[steel root]

Oh, Also my case fans use modex cable but also have 3 pin plugs is that important?

[pulsar zodiac]

Option ROM messages says force bios

[desert gulch]

Not rly

[viral ore]

thats not what you think it is

[desert gulch]

It'll still work fine

[pulsar zodiac]

k

yeah so idk

not my CMOS battery 100% now

[desert gulch]

I'd use 3 pin as you can adjust their speed much easier

[pulsar zodiac]

probably motherboard

[steel root]

So I don't need to plug in the 3 pin cables then

[viral ore]

is CSM still enabled?

[desert gulch]

I would

But it will still run without it

[pulsar zodiac]

yes

[viral ore]

but you cant see any trace of the M.2 ssd

[pulsar zodiac]

boot device control is UEFI and Legacy OPROM

[desert gulch]

They'll just be like high speed all the time

[pulsar zodiac]

nope

nothing

[desert gulch]

Unless you put them into a hub

[pulsar zodiac]

like it's not there

[desert gulch]

Which is more work than it's worht

[pulsar zodiac]

but it went into windows earlier

literally 2 minutes ago

[steel root]

Maybe I plug them in wrong or something I get a problem the case just flashes light then shuts off when I connect the 3 pin cable on system fan

[desert gulch]

Hmm weird

[viral ore]

pull out both M.2 ssds

put the 250gb one in the slot closest to the cpu

and the 1tb one in the slot under that

[desert gulch]

Def move hdmi to back of gpu

That's step 1

[pulsar zodiac]

bruh moment

ok hold on

[steel root]

Will do

[viral ore]

waaait what 250gb ssd is this?

is it NVMe or sata

[pulsar zodiac]

NVME

[viral ore]

are you sure

[pulsar zodiac]

Pretty sure

I can send you my list

[desert gulch]

You can have a m.2 non nvme

[viral ore]

link where you bought it from

[pulsar zodiac]

hold on

I bought it from canada comptuers

one sec

[viral ore]

ok

[little osprey]

nvme should be 240 right ?

[pulsar zodiac]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fwbfPV

[little osprey]

it's probably sata drive lol

[pulsar zodiac]

western digital 1TB as well

[viral ore]

that is a sata ssd

oof

[pulsar zodiac]

bruh momeny

[desert gulch]

Ooof

[viral ore]

so yeah it wont work in the top slot lol

[pulsar zodiac]

it's in the bottom one

I specifically remember checking

[nimble hornet]

hey guys

[little osprey]

sata.m2 eww

[severe axle]

says its not

[little osprey]

its sata driven m2 lol

if it was m2 nvme it would be 240gb not 250 🤔

[viral ore]

actually, both slots support sata drives

wack

[pulsar zodiac]

man idk at this point

my pc is cursed

[viral ore]

honestly, are you ok with just reinstalling windows

[stoic island]

what

[viral ore]

the right way?

[stoic island]

just no

:P

[viral ore]

it would be beneficial

[pulsar zodiac]

I don't have the disk

my uncle took it

[viral ore]

eww dont use a disk

[little osprey]

I never seen 250 nvme lol

[nimble hornet]

could you rate this pc please(%)
cpu: ryzen 7 3800x
m.b: asus rog x570 gaming-e
ram: g.skill 64gb (4x16g) 3200 cl16
gpu: asus rog rtx 2070s oc
ssd: corsair mp600 gen4 (500g)
psu: asos rog 650w

[viral ore]

thats what caused this mess in the first place

get a flash drive

[stoic island]

First, just look at the drive, B+M Key, says SATA on it

[viral ore]

make a proper bootable usb yourself

[stoic island]

@little osprey pretty sure P1 and P2 are 250gb

both NVMe

[pulsar zodiac]

wait hold on

let me do something

imma turn my PC off and see what it is

[viral ore]

also what 1tb ssd do you have? if thats nvme i would suggest just installing windows to that

[pulsar zodiac]

I'll try swapping them too

[stoic island]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086BKGSC1

[pulsar zodiac]

all my games are on it

[wanton cliff]

make that in https://www.PcPartPicker.com please

[pulsar zodiac]

from western digital too I'm pretty sure

[viral ore]

do you have bad internet?

[stoic island]

@nimble hornet also, it matters a LOT if it's buying used or new

[pulsar zodiac]

me?

[viral ore]

yes

you

ignore everyone else but me for the time being

[pulsar zodiac]

I mean I have 200Mb/s upload and 20Mb/s download but my ping in games is horrible

[viral ore]

good nuff, you can spend a day redownloading games, right?

[waxen storm]

Can someone please help me

[pulsar zodiac]

it's more like

[wanton cliff]

sure

[pulsar zodiac]

3 days of redownloading...

[wanton cliff]

what you need

[waxen storm]

I just tried plugging my fans into my mobo and now my computer won't even start

[viral ore]

ive done that

[little osprey]

lol i just checked it

[stoic island]

@pulsar zodiac I mean, you can use like this to check latency if you're worried about ping
https://testmy.net/latency

[viral ore]

many times lol

[waxen storm]

It clicks but doesn't turn on

[wanton cliff]

plug them into the CHA_headers

[stoic island]

Where does the "click" come from

[waxen storm]

I don't know what that means

This is my first computer ever

[nimble hornet]

its my corent pc now but id like to know if its good or i have to upgread some parts

[wanton cliff]

plug them into the correct fan headers

not whatever you plugged them into

get a daisy chain if you need to

[viral ore]

@pulsar zodiac start by creating a windows installation usb

[stoic island]

Loud click from the PSU might mean protection is tripping, so I'd try and figure out what's wrong first @wanton cliff

[waxen storm]

They are plugged into the right slots on my motherboard I think

[pulsar zodiac]

what if I try to switch the M.2 spots

[viral ore]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

here

[little osprey]

@waxen storm did you also plug molex ?